From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 07:40:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD984271F for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180442830 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1B44E70000098 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 09:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AAF1EE000082 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) References: <1377992373.83599.YahooMailNeo@web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-m238.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.175) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:31:48 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378042309; bh=giHgWmgJZFpqKNdMqBOxhvTTlNMxgV8Ywr/fkaYYdjI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h4oyqIaCu3KNJruDPhxrqAkPNdM0hgtVBUjK0vTnxqFGz+EOGvC6qVQvfcSjy9oOv dLctUI/tRCS7jfaaHJy4NjlOklOpnzMvxmLV7J9JfA1Wy7mzBkGDCx1urrtrJqvHT7 hU0Uz84qYTLK9V5FlIJsNY6GXgoK6jhOLOcaT48w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948522341c43773 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Sill Splatter Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think the best product for this application is a product called Chip Guard. It is an elastomeric spray-on coating available in black or clear. And it is paintable. It remains flexible and will repel small rocks and sand and whatnot. You can find it at any Auto Paint shop. I used it on my TR8 and it held up well over the nine or so years drove that car. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: William Brewer So when repainting a TR6 under the lower side chrome strip there is some rough stuff that is sort of like hard splattered undercoating. Part of mine is sanded off smooth. If a guy wants to re-do it, what do you use? Does anyone scrape off the old coating and just paint it the body color instead of the satin black? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 07:46:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CFE42727 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CD6942727 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 07:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.48] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 13:46:24 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.254] by tm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 13:46:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 13:46:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15785 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2013 13:46:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378043184; bh=afCsRo2/1Ja5AGxNhkH+9TdTBBAcjSzZtWtHwTCfID4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=21eKfDQfK6UYKOB0DcrM7W0tAbD9aqs/xS7JSC9BhoMvR+GriBk0hPIDTbc3FGYmsrSsUfYFEjkFj8LVMszK1E8yXT/mZ5sy1CUuVhqF4XLRIpNMaw1jGfk46rx89fuGct95k19563Hvg0/IZeC6W52czpLt0btO1BD9wDWqmo8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v74ldXCwLNzKVLAxoC5qdzxcqzY7wF9vXUXzwq5FmH2FjGns7Gw6WtCe1BwWebflvwn1KC/TJ9aLkELquuEMscXOdVoltPrRDn5vsS0OoBLAot+M0eq8+Yl+xkuKVqrG5o7GsZEfOOqbYjqd887eGayWXOdU7C0PCOMy5yd+mws=; LarDjH5XxDC4dO2O7VfRceyCjsOJ.sXpwNqjtAkJj_239tQEapyR2SCB1nuA BetNsa5aGFhkCsKlPIGxhhv5YnXb9czzihcfrt2H4Q9NEWmcce5i6DGxRDJC T_gg_ppTpuzQMoG.thDBttgKTWaGM.5wBVc511ZVU_m8R7mQCJtlE0hwqHWn zGZghkD1jW3JJTHMtBVLO4ePi.R.mHinBWc70KBORfvZW8bUOCSTo2BCBKXB jBJ7fzUaxFUWdxcBjeJ8ouvhRB9dlLfZt9nEPKoP7jKBtFYNffJhGkGaFpmJ 6GWmTIX3lqFmpx4yotIBdt4ZoURSI9hH2ApsHg4cAsOTWjR_xOxX6p.gDyCE z8b6UzlzMigfx6CQ6VwaLny.l0lBhPS.b2l8tbBYHofagyF8z0TKsPlB_b3j s8wGQjhMwDWP8EUMrqgmWkXtDBUM.iSshZpnvjMve70ZEv.VU3i1sjLSSbjs Hi5WX.trGYS6SGFYWeOSbmkR7bE_r_Sgk6o6nEkpT8Tn200GYQtQgizkOaVI QIdaQOrBTBzXqh3SGyMoYbV8TeHcbRvTh5Q8vn97hZ03G3BxN5N4EH01oQ10 7Fig- Received: from [2.121.238.248] by web171902.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:46:24 BST SSB3YXMgYnJvd3NpbmcgdGhlICduZXQnIHRvZGF5IGFuZCBjYW1lIGFjcm9zcyBhbiBvbGQgZnJpZW5kIHRoYXQncyBjdXJyZW50bHkgdXAgZm9yIHNhbGUgd2l0aCBUUkJpdHogaW4gdGhlIFVLLiAKQ2xhaW1lZCBhcyB0aGUgc2Vjb25kIFRSNSBvZmYgdGhlIGxpbmUgaXNuJ3QgcGVyaGFwcyBleGFjdGx5IHRydWUuIEknbSBpbmNsaW5lZCB0byB0aGluayBpdCB3YXMgcHJvYmFibHkgdGhlIHNlY29uZCBvbmUgb2Ygd2hhdCB3ZSB1c2VkIHRvIGNhbGwgJ29mZiB0b29scyfCoCAtIGkuZS4gaXQgd2FzIG1vcmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:46:24 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] A piece of Standard Triumph history? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was browsing the 'net' today and came across an old friend that's currently up for sale with TRBitz in the UK. Claimed as the second TR5 off the line isn't perhaps exactly true. I'm inclined to think it was probably the second one of what we used to call 'off tools' - i.e. it was more likely pieced together in the production hall rather than go down the line itself. If you pulled it to pieces now, it's likely you'd find quite a few oddball features that weren't on later cars - even the early ones. For the purists, this car is LHP 289 F and was one of three 'Press' cars that were sequentially numbered LHP 288 F to LHP 290 F. This car is very much of an old friend as it was based in London and I drove it many times as a customer 'demonstrator'. There is no doubt (IMHO) that these three 5's were probably the fastest examples of any 5 ever made and I drove 288, 289 and 290 several times. They were all outstandingly fast and far faster off the line than later production 5s and certainly injected TR6s. If you're of a mind to acquire a 5, TRBitz are flogging this one for GBP50k which is about US$78k. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C384630# As for me, i've no option but to remember - and with a lot of happy memories. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 10:45:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EE342912 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 10:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D590A406A9 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 10:37:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 16:37:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.163] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 16:37:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1074.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 16:37:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 56617 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2013 16:37:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378053451; bh=us17JJSYqlGS0Ovfzp8UZH2JhrqDuHBCiN8482PmXAE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T4hThhbt25+BL+K4vlrlBsdmu4FjyhOT5XJfAMLr/JSkBErF6A91PCIXFI4MvRXqyiDGj3ELzPkoJrguttSEO6aXzBmdI4AVIMqs70XgFvgJfXocTUoR4TQgGdOCzIcbiFCtQsMCdYhBUZcR+emwXycn+QFbfQDKwi7aROImi5M= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6H9vdj6NzRx54uS/cLD4kn3RQSE/4vucPO8WhgdofnsMWlZDvPtuOnV+JjDJ9OKhRlj/6OkNw5n2VPghhL3cLJfagpIjN6jREIOMyYG75tS4tdTSFQ8xMer1HQPAXVtMgTdD6gtYhP3Ss+FxpY1tNLmHaMgkEnBFQsjlsKAZMT8=; cpRe3kMZUiF88_NozklXyz9hADJjRowfQPPCvBdk2AkfmotTYdk9jck_BDr8 TyoGWv19xMc4xPqNvvTFhgPmvgYRMaYXEVf.FZ7zSDMQeGnaNlJvRfMIVXf5 rChBzm4hPg_m3jEAiytJrdwc72Hf7lpu2TBb5HRRKrVrgNcbZ01yWBmql.hK mAGYfcyaUVRi_8ZO.w_Fw2rNMxC0VsVOre83FHY6YrB9.QStcpr1QaAUDMV5 Fb1VdVOJDV64cpmaKeIOGZhkkPIeWJiCTF3P8ryK_azoy1AKFP5ifAR.zcvo wfRQpevzrbPfuVN8mXJQ6cxOYbd_fbUx7LEnXsBw0R18NHsC4mGO0xfbVN2i JKzYShXQBOPbq1e.U7TOUDFjim1KEyx7ijfYv_Y31aB_Hy2vxpszk.niCoeo wD49pjIVp8prTntBZUuX41wXwF9L_cRkDqHrTyTmkhL0BJ8UOUZHS7q5CJA_ g03DhtPkMJ4mO6Qjv_1g5cK71ChDL5ZsRloMfSkNGpTzu1CsDMBCcwBN9CZi yW0RhKPzwHDtNMyqi0XoeseklVwW6czsyvUjihHmqoGCgjR3NPgkIKaSclfu HLntfvA-- Received: from [166.147.104.39] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:37:31 PDT M00gYm9keSBzY2h1dHogaXMgY2xvc2VzdCB0byBvcmlnaW5hbC7CoCBBbnkgcHJvIGJvZHkgc2hvcCBzb3BwbHkgc2hvdWxkIGhhdmUgaXQuCgpTZW50IGZyb20gWWFob28hIE1haWwgb24gQW5kcm9pZAoKATABAQEB Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Chad To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Dave Massey Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Sill Splatter Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 3M body schutz is closest to original. Any pro body shop sopply should have it. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 11:21:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C8042746 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198B44040C for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:21:18 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vAPh4pg1EIsA:10 a=kvyOkc_vL9_M1DMKaK8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=eDArKH49xZkA:10 a=mNcf7brbkcAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C5/AE-02184-78773225; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:21:11 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 10:21:10 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6mt+C8oEP4b19ARYCzIf1eNMs27wAf47ag Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 temp sensor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with Greg, I think you are moving the outer shield (there is a metal collar right next to the bulb plus of course the spiral wound wire) rather than the bulb itself. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 11:52:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CBB4292A for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379EE42264 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ktft1m00116LCl051tsMwe; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:52:21 +0000 Received: from sz0012.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KtsL1m01W2ymm843StsLuU; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:52:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) From: pdqtr6@comcast.net To: William Brewer s=q20121106; t=1378057941; bh=RZHqDIMRW4UIpc7xo2d5ya6O01bKmn36q3e3Vj8XgNo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=AGAIIMArbFw7uzxtN8yN3HECzS2TsRntFa6HFwimvAIOtSZb1vpiuA+/2vkep2MZt xUBXjZoD3B5OZOJtPIyccUwwVCF1c/kjI4Hhgtw4r6qTYnPjxbvbLUIeSqTXmgLiF0 aAYsLfteA33EBnd8w6lYFrKJoJJrwkHLXn0AXsz+3McTfP0g6R6vbI2nbmkPGHVy4j TAyf6/D7I+YwFltvcfPy+oRyyLAYZk5AjuPm3IuO39yIwJk9iAstpIXzZKPys52HfV uNc/Zrf4AS6TKrjxlIJeu2/H6HRzQ8mEfCCfB0fJFB6OaV7+OGVq7JUToZBdQ/aYdh 6nKsiBeOm8fGg== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhausts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have any valid opinions and experiences? Bill in Tehachapi Bill -- There is no such thing! Opinions are what cause land to sell and people to marry. And there is no consensus about why. There are some people who want a bit of rasp in their exhaust note, and others who only want a low burble. A DPO of my TR3 stuck a garden hose up the tail pipe and then started the engine and revved it thus blowing out some of the baffles. Too loud for me, but "just right" for him. I have the stock TR6 exhaust on mine and it produces a nice low note that is remarkably smooth - just what I like. But then again, I don't/won't own a Harley either! Tom Walling ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 12:06:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC0240566 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ED7428ED for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9E93E7000008F for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 762C0E000081 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:03:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:03:11 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378058591; bh=EAn3YK7PW9Xr/3gB6W6lkLw6NWXw6l3GEsMkhbFcKtA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aLbrXb4okhsS5zeqZKlSZ226pT5kpUIz5A+XzyQwcc/xuXtkpp9uHF9/Izl6FBj6i u24VfsnL27lvA57mFoWW6ylR0e5Y072vS/SKjMBslhDwBTbwaOEuDLldlhCUpedPt2 m9BTqintY8XTjbvIzTN3+LQFXTgBKBzCMat7lvUI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485223815f1569 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Sill Splatter Coating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Probably. But I seem to recall that stuff tends to look tired after a modest number of years whereas the Chip Guard (which was formulated to protect painted areas as opposed to being an undercoat) keeps it gloss longer. If you want originality use Body Schutz. Dave In a message dated 9/1/2013 11:37:32 AM Central Daylight Time, triumph74tr6@yahoo.com writes: > 3M body schutz is closest to original. Any pro body shop sopply should > have it. > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > > > From: Dave Massey ; > To: ; > Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Sill Splatter Coating > Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2013 1:31:48 PM > > > I think the best product for this application is a product called Chip > Guard. > It is an elastomeric spray-on coating available in black or clear. And it > is > paintable. It remains flexible and will repel small rocks and sand and > whatnot. You can find it at any Auto Paint shop. I used it on my TR8 and > it > held up well over the nine or so years drove that car. > > > > > > Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 12:37:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3138342912 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF1040C02 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.91.182.adsl.snet.net [69.0.91.182]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LrM1s-1W1SYf2CJo-013NUG; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:36:52 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: References: <168222748.2165573.1378057940962.JavaMail.root@sz0012a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:36:48 -0400 lW/MDqAe+s5Sa+i7+nm1aUhcnGbSs7oaTwhaUUpXwkjEaGjXlk U/Mq3jD8k/fBGe54iWHsYMF1DYTL1TqNxUhbwVGf7PIdA5BTex xXHfdIbBaXjlgVR7zXMens2VdyW0Py+aiGdDhsQse/kYMS3zw/ /YX3USEKvQ9Rpith/Yw4VVkFqTtL1l0/N8hZNd4cncnFq+TRR9 gJTO0Jsjnr6HWhFQfPzKalQIE404ZDq2K8KQPi6rrWEiF/WKDB EtUtZ/0z8b2OdHP3pX95raFnVeHA23+r07929N+goM4JvlBywW bljrAZjHk+GyPM0f4+qbT0dCF0tKwZ6A8KgtBJK3i Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhausts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Great answer..... just like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder......... same holds true for exhaust notes....... one man's melodic symphony is another man's ear busting heavy metal rock...... my stock steel is going on 15 years old and it still sounds great. Bob Danielson Custom Interiors & Boot Covers http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm Fender Blankets for TR4/250/6/7/8 & MGB http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/FenderBlanket.htm -----Original Message----- From: pdqtr6@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 1:52 PM To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhausts Bill -- There is no such thing! Opinions are what cause land to sell and people to marry. And there is no consensus about why. There are some people who want a bit of rasp in their exhaust note, and others who only want a low burble. A DPO of my TR3 stuck a garden hose up the tail pipe and then started the engine and revved it thus blowing out some of the baffles. Too loud for me, but "just right" for him. I have the stock TR6 exhaust on mine and it produces a nice low note that is remarkably smooth - just what I like. But then again, I don't/won't own a Harley either! Tom Walling ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 15:55:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B499042746 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20324069D for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 21:52:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.161] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 21:52:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2013 21:52:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 73551 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2013 21:52:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378072362; bh=wvGFffINZXW6QfiCEpW7MdPxA8Z1hYjvgB7GTBdVL6k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FpVKteXeowOuJqe7EywlNeoS8BOcyuhdO27EIfgGLOWGa2kB5/0aL7h7sw/4LOnTxMshietB65/BThiFiD5uBVfmgUTLLhO4l56KUOhOA3CUnAxJW3Tk+18pT4i05zIXFzljqs8DCZ/iOEs9UGKtzoPSU61ACisbfmKHrv7Kz7M= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s1Qv3oMqQFf+MFQlvDvit1mmUNU04836NvMff93Bg1B1mtHt+t6ZbJ6dbkP7KyS1tSHsyqnp5+8mGyPltH+1f9e6I/rOdhRqLEAGK+gOPyvojPMDbg8mSvNcGeX5ZiiNJ0asNkyLS0ghq1FIW1o+n1eREbb1nG2Z4l2WnZgqSIk=; fcdtRAEF6lVPRFYB6EkJmsBlSjlePFQRvgpAYdr0xNJzLPI90BVUY4rHOnqo C9T2N7smvRBlfrWSo7jdmMTx2aPBv_Z1KeWZg1C4kaZ1qZFuP9GF1rYP3Jc2 hPa2li0LSrjbaS9oXhdlFgAah8r9z3en2n8f_EYTtcUPW3wtdWdXBWe9mEpb OZJRDNAqZND6OWMY7sIVryCf4QCqrVoMLT32er3Lwk3UYAAzCrJGkY5sEPpS bDUslyy3Wg2EK8nQV2PGeT9Z3ndkgMmx2uNTXSjkr5RMcmg4v60SxaqzUWQJ HrOCkQq9wugZVfuBnU2LqELwC7oxkB20OQftLTsEO7fmqRsH.rG8XpccWDCQ u.gtdbPRt0yv9qTh6qYDVFA2qJVxj8qnkZapa7z4_oGdh4X2YNcj9_Eo.3kY awznPUiZv3YxkJSxwUXduy6xo2va9AhbxsXhU.OurNheq8oE2hQaTUjndwEA gCu00hIjClOf6RE5RsJj7O8CzBCmlXyTkyFQDW5fH.pqyMKVB_e7zq8WCDp0 rImVTFYXXMsXJjV7WzjCmjtxFr708ZZOhQrtE3.9l5g-- Received: from [108.0.20.132] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:52:41 PDT QmlsbApoZWxwZWQgbXkgYnVkZHkgcHV0IHRoZSBkdWFsIHN0YWlubGVzcyBzeXN0ZW0gZnJvbSBtb3NzIG9uIGhpcyBUUjYuIHdvdyBkb2VzIGl0IHNvdW5kIHBlcmZlY3QuCsKgCkZyYW5rCgpGcm9tOiBXaWxsaWFtIEJyZXdlciA8d3NiMTk2MHRyM2FAYXR0Lm5ldD4KVG86IFRyaXVtcGhzIDx0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IFNhdHVyZGF5LCBBdWd1c3QgMzEsIDIwMTMgOTo1NCBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbVFJdIFRSNiBFeGhhdXN0cwoKCsKgIMKgIEkgYW0gbG9va2luZyB0byB1cGdyYWQBMAEBAQE- References: <1378011252.7863.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:52:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: William Brewer , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhausts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill helped my buddy put the dual stainless system from moss on his TR6. wow does it sound perfect. Frank From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [TR] TR6 Exhausts I am looking to upgrade the exhaust on my 1974 TR6. The stock exhaust is way to quit. I have been looking online and listening to the videos on youtube. It looks like the Tourist Trophy exhaust might be quietest, but I am not sure. Several guys complained that the Monza and Falcon exhausts were too loud. There are also the Ansa exhausts. Anyone have any valid opinions and experiences? Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 18:47:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6604295E for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 18:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88C4406A1 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 18:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from JoePa2011 ([unknown] [71.173.204.33]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSH0083N3C1WZ20@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 19:43:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph Laurito" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1378011252.7863.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 20:43:15 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6mz3dIrOsaQ1YxTBmRK+EjoN1m2gAoxJbQ Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhausts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill; I agree with you that the stock exhaust is too quiet. However, what I consider to be perfect may be appalling to you; it's a matter of personal preference. When I was shopping for a system back in the '80s, I listened to cars using the Stebro system and they were a bit too loud for me. Then I listened to cars with Monza exhausts and really didn't care for the raspy sound. I ended up putting an ANSA dual exhaust system on my car and it's still going strong 30 years later. It has a nice resonance that fits my taste to a tee and has a natural sweet spot at 62 MPH. I have heard good things about the Tourist Trophy exhaust but I have no first-hand knowledge. Compare with the opinions you get from others and decide what's right for you. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 12:54 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Exhausts I am looking to upgrade the exhaust on my 1974 TR6. The stock exhaust is way to quit. I have been looking online and listening to the videos on youtube. It looks like the Tourist Trophy exhaust might be quietest, but I am not sure. Several guys complained that the Monza and Falcon exhausts were too loud. There are also the Ansa exhausts. Anyone have any valid opinions and experiences? Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trglory@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 01:26:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F534068D for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 01:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com (mail-pd0-f176.google.com [209.85.192.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564FB40514 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 01:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q10so4397497pdj.21 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:18:05 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index; bh=QUK7hzSByarwOTOsYPb2fGmIgV0VWvFis5Vz1ri6KLQ=; b=YIR4OkLm5+j1Lhlybm71jbd/L2VJwYtlmX45OYFvEtylszyg93y3ILZXzUMu3BSHi0 uYZUFTr9mizyLrnBwH607yR5wxiCMmDQ6VlhThzMg15vZebainvLnTIP05bafZGLKXWZ M4mrVMoOjCPT2aQMHuAFweW44FE89goZ1Naz4OCbgc/QRFXkkWr3DIiSlBzQfSiUTTrF Alb2Gh7ZnZ1wM7mRTA9lQbHkCGrzKw7styCYfpipH9jhnPG/kMlGDYLThN/knsR+CRm7 jeNxR/XACqxMrv+p0uP/Y7G5b97jh4NP57NsELZH+7i+QywV5TiGCsuGPX7PnAxRJ+Wh Ze0Q== t2mr1652207pbe.151.1378106285848; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMD5400 (122-59-245-167.jetstream.xtra.co.nz. [122.59.245.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oc10sm14013489pbb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Vassiliadis" To: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:18:25 +1200 Thread-Index: Ac6nrJ0M/ABB9FrtQou0VEmwIIhNVQ== Subject: [TR] head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just finished torquing down my TR4 head and think I've put the head gasket upside down. Its a composite copper asbestos looking one with no top marking. So after googling I thought that the smooth side should go againt the head and the side with the copper folded over around the chambers against the liners. then it occurred to me that I vaguely remember one of Randals photos with them the other way around. Does anyone know? If I have I understand that those type of head gaskets are oncers? Jim and the the TR4 thats being slowly reassembled ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 06:04:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194A94056A for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 06:04:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276EA4298F for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 06:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f12so3002813vbg.11 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hkiVadJ8AA4k+c7umh5eEj8w0VMdAx9OYMVQVgEx5wo=; b=mSO+lwdtV55A6NnIz7gUg2oboUnuzaPctr8rpv8t2gUDXS9TIZQHLVvl7w46yk9buC VKqGjd65VCu+fRYGoiu0bqEK1uW4cDxIHy7pYisQryB/9otraLCLHloOEsy/C50M4D47 5cEZv/TT9EouoZCUXi6wZwaD+CQiiD823OUYdQMCTeJOt5XnDAcSFBtM3aGQ/TgwDdwK y0J2uK7e+26wAc5e31IAgwTKCyM8LtYr7R4M4y7bhmwJ8d5MIRPmu3qivlca9XeBzTQj A2ZzQqscz0fsjKoB2C1dems4CB/NmYXEMQBVluoW16DthflXishrrPxn8ZUM5H2PQGFC urYw== vu4mr2735381veb.21.1378123446883; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.208 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 05:04:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <4EDD1B2315A845E9A0E559BF7DDD0B0E@AMD5400> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 05:04:06 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Jim Vassiliadis Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim -- I don't think it matters on those. In fact I believe they are holed (for the single oil passage) in two corners so they are not 'handed'. Also, I have been known to reuse a head gasket when the gasket itself was not the reason for the tear-down -- but I suppose that is not recommended. In that case I put it back on with the same orientation as before. Geo On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Jim Vassiliadis wrote: > I just finished torquing down my TR4 head and think I've put the head > gasket > upside down. > Its a composite copper asbestos looking one with no top marking. > So after googling I thought that the smooth side should go againt the head > and the side with the copper folded over around the chambers against the > liners. > then it occurred to me that I vaguely remember one of Randals photos with > them the other way around. > Does anyone know? > If I have I understand that those type of head gaskets are oncers? > > Jim and the the TR4 thats being slowly reassembled > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 07:41:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FA9406A7 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF440450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn9so689956wib.5 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 06:41:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ZLV/ugpF4e+/i0YmgOXzCf0cL7F/33iKIXmXhcCPQMU=; b=gWhdAazNRZGTfGZwhZXVaWEhe01NOOVObXvr9c2p6jdfliD5JZL8buHFCW7IzFs0L6 E3cZ8VbT9CG7dBOOfzJXdt1Em8+IGIbbPidAyh+MSyQXF4mJi/45Y4Dz7TtCD760n8/o aV+/iDejJ0iPDZCQnxmqff9+cQ9KU36g30nCkc1lcGK1+bOnGm2fOyPdIexcVe6uAN9C LahpN4XtaeyKAZHGl/vOQ057uiL4zocN2iIE5wzGwICqyyceM9qD2evZTRdyI+oXoU5P KZzaaxVGQJnWrmr0jginhav4hp/sfXLwvb4sn9FQCy0KcEctQRKJTMuDdOTxD/GdtE1g jzOQ== kd1mr5569189wjc.35.1378129289818; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 06:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 06:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:41:09 +0200 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like a Locktite variant, and although I've never used it -- or even heard of it, to tell the truth -- I know folks who give it a personal recommendation. Any input from the list? Couldn't find a mention in the Triumphs or FOT list archives. http://www.screwgrab.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:23:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DE6406A7 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:23:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7FA403BA for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.219.115.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.219.115]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 997B0585D59 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:20:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "davewillner" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:20:48 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3 glove boxes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a light tan interior on my car and replaced the glovebox years ago with one that has the black flox on the inside. I thought I remember seeing boxes made somewhere in various colors, anyone know who still supplies these? Thanks for the help Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:24:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5142830 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF9740450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:21:11 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=AltwRmyPJxEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Y6I3pe-w14QA:10 a=fkFYW4n8AAAA:8 a=d7dNFSxhQnfkoc6bEVwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BF/05-11231-6DE94225; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:21:11 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:21:09 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6n4jVci5IlZYT5TECI4GLdl5QmcQABNTQg Subject: Re: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? > > Sounds like a Locktite variant, and although I've never used > it -- or even > heard of it, to tell the truth -- I know folks who give it a personal > recommendation. I'd never heard of it either; but from a quick Google I don't think it is like Loctite. It's apparently an abrasive grit suspended in a gel, intended to help a tool bit get a grip on a rounded/damaged fastener. Kind of like Vice Grips in a bottle. http://www.screwgrab.com/ Slick idea. But I wonder if valve grinding compound wouldn't work almost as well. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:24:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C7140E96 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D4640450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn9so744042wib.5 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=FFbTqVSb7f773W41kzkKHnOMMBrekH1AoxvgyORAvXc=; b=IvJgDv34gqOlNGCaHXMvnhQQ2PUWFf+wCoVbyj2OcGIo4jNEwKJ8le3t0Nnb57On4Q /54E0KwYz2uAKgktzUjq/UE/0vdej6QPyeHhjUBdo3AH+v77ZXuO7YHNz+ihfA3xw+jH +OxCeK3C/lhYAydSJ9ZrVivueIbVhXYYm2GRaMaF5jrs7QcKYV44QWjkVp6l4SZgSqK2 VBfS7hvuDJNUG//VszGYy0BOb7Ara1Cb6HjEsvkICRCQDMI0UNZTvyxS04fQ8QS3AdXe W1J04v1lH/CRxO/4+kNlv7/6oYPWokPsBPEevggRT1hy7FjuGMwmhZjgYKDoHLKbIhxQ KRAA== lo1mr5119307wic.15.1378131867360; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 16:24:06 +0200 To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup, Randall -- they state it's "not a glue". I've had pm from others on the list also mentioning valve lapping compound. It does seem that that's a best guess as to the basic composition of the stuff in the ScrewGrab bottle. On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Randall wrote: > > > Subject: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? > > > > Sounds like a Locktite variant, and although I've never used > > it -- or even > > heard of it, to tell the truth -- I know folks who give it a personal > > recommendation. > > I'd never heard of it either; but from a quick Google I don't think it is > like Loctite. It's apparently an abrasive grit suspended in a gel, > intended > to help a tool bit get a grip on a rounded/damaged fastener. Kind of like > Vice Grips in a bottle. > > http://www.screwgrab.com/ > > Slick idea. But I wonder if valve grinding compound wouldn't work almost > as > well. > > Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:28:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BD340E52 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C60340450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 14:28:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.52] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 14:28:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 14:28:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378132116; bh=oH3U17XS4Dx9cGPH5nRVMIkV/GoLuH4JvLo3BnvUavg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=066FS9aqgNKRNkBrdE66jMCkL1MwcRM+ImzjQWywaetP3FelX7uDq81t9GNvaqeFM2Mom6yIGFwjQQdXntpj/pN6SMR2c/J6VrUeTnv5mZL3zdPZnUeL7jNTdswt4fbief3cqLE/FJDPHeZVbMyB0nMJXKojUeCI9N4qRJ0hfAk= 5QnARALM4VUUuX52tq8d9SslOYYIVBGcSpYfm97Iuitjv2lmjiLtheEZMgCh nMcVVMZkzYsoIMpO361vDPgTKPAvfffnnVt0YNuipG8eAZkVqcmGWSmhEuSL juLZHF8pkC_1zUQ7EYtWfj1W0TfaNHkmiW0zFUmUG4kM95Fw1IIuEGJ6Ylr2 srxe5a4PK7lGCmZVw.vvpg4wmTfDTV0JCfx04_hASVjM5ELTptpjEFKYb5Ko 0Xk1DziCZPMRfY_GdvjFDcRnPfY2PLTGbV6xQ3xF_cIRErS8ZaV22XUe5_Sw nLbVLE5MTm_zb0eZOaHAhBPPvTkF6J3Gp2zo4f0wxraFVJfh65YVJsUOA2ed wJd2YnZ3t8kLiIvrZuz5w2LF6QqVFy2xn56LoeND4xydXnhUh9rphfyPN.zp 3qfJ314rWr9onxbg286OZK3RekvdYxZaZo3jgKkBWd3Il8E_PyIBi7gh9.4U Srr4N0okfOJQl5mEh9doUjfxl7Q9FGl_wcH8ovh3pOWw5XyuC.7CaZCmfox0 U4B5h4K.OOlC4oZLgh0XeCC3dAuAHM1ZqXHbgReu31YOV8.ejI.N1eSBce77 hed4s8PBe3Of7 plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Sep 2013 07:28:35 -0700 PDT Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:28:38 -0400 From: john Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Don Hiscock References: Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ive never heard of it, but I'll give it a try. On 9/2/2013 9:41 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Sounds like a Locktite variant, and although I've never used it -- or even > heard of it, to tell the truth -- I know folks who give it a personal > recommendation. > > Any input from the list? Couldn't find a mention in the Triumphs or FOT > list archives. > > http://www.screwgrab.com/ > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jmitch@snet.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:29:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F247C4272D for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:29:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E7840450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:29:20 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=tfSfdjS--YEA:10 a=kzUn17215-ZLHlNlZmwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55008] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7C/4C-11231-BB0A4225; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:29:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jim Vassiliadis'" , Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:29:14 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6nrJ0M/ABB9FrtQou0VEmwIIhNVQAOyc4g Subject: Re: [TR] head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > then it occurred to me that I vaguely remember one of Randals > photos with > them the other way around. > Does anyone know? I do indeed install mine the other way over, but I doubt that it makes any difference at all. I sure wouldn't pull it apart just for that! As Geo noted, the gaskets have an extra hole just so you can install them either way. > If I have I understand that those type of head gaskets are oncers? That is certainly best practice. But again like Geo, I've been known to reuse them occasionally if the liners haven't been disturbed and the gasket appears to be in good condition. So far, I've gotten away with it. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 08:39:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D44940566 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:39:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC6403EC for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130902143529.OPKA10448.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:35:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.90.219.141]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id LEbU1m00Y33eLpB05EbVSY; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:35:29 -0400 a=6u3I5JZzQIMPIMpZ5D+5wg==:17 a=KiVbQdkf6L0A:10 a=AltwRmyPJxEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Y6I3pe-w14QA:10 a=K_RtOuLmR0LrgVKBemkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=vge1cYVkbC0A:10 a=tVsxHQe-mXsA:10 a=6u3I5JZzQIMPIMpZ5D+5wg==:117 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:35:30 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] Ever use "ScrewGrab"? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/2/2013 10:21 AM, Randall wrote: > Kind of like > Vice Grips in a bottle. > > Slick idea. Isn't it actually just the opposite? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 09:42:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6B40E52 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.ctinetworks.com (smtp2.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2464032B for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.219.115.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.219.115]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp2.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EA4A31D21A5 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "davewillner" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:33:46 -0400 Subject: [TR] Fw: TR3 glove boxes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I found a tan one thru TRF, did a better search...txs Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "davewillner" To: "'Triumph List'" Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [TR] TR3 glove boxes >I have a light tan interior on my car and replaced the glovebox years ago >with > one that has the black flox on the inside. I thought I remember seeing > boxes > made somewhere in various colors, anyone know who still supplies these? > Thanks for the help > > Dave Willner > Stroudsburg PA > 59 TR3A > 70 MGB > 70 BSA 441 VS > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 09:42:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA564068D for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6B14032B for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:34:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 15:34:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.39] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 15:34:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 15:34:57 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378136097; bh=clMM69Z3m8Yvky/TORD5mCuITU9slKYWi52uVUeP6x0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=VeGnaELKzeu35z0u4Th8GFsCNSZr7xgKCKWVgAb52qlXVmiiO3ta5WDzUQus9icXmSPyfY+yuLd/UGR3VTKr7+zJD05U/r5kloZDmngGn5gn+jeZniHolJefbDaE6bB5pw9do/aT23T2A7+IIfqILeKoJ8mDkS/lb5jtKdUO3GA= 8aaBhkIwx86xPvfPKW3PHJbKG_299VojN_gAjohuHmWfVNXIFXiIUaaqQC8N B86TJu6A2Ta46wFqdF2C_lQVW451_Vz7vx1sgLu3BZ5ea5YVzOUfN_saT2NX Vz6aan5DAdDboICdssJ0kC8ZwlKuyfk4RMg.LmWeY8lf5fOO1i6jjrWjIPRe fh5NUoQugXFUalEyBfx5N3vT9zIwxof6rQwDYKZT75kwsawEpXH1kHDD97en 4406Q4I4QpspfbBDC7dOLRn7qBs_DjNDhUN_IJEEzPEyZgERmApHTTerod4G _ItYLzlh1L5VunYhW2oQhW8g6WS_ZNHhq.iG8fgBYPe_3cU8_6DW2ULnGJWt .khMoeuEEeNXLX3hsfd5JxSaB5bir4HO0TlLkE6Gv1aePeYjLH_5_9uTnC7_ cd1_7xiroKDe.C7JvcH_lH0BmTJKCmXzw_.KtC5VU5d7YBvOHXlpD8QUDOTP WGX_WePLZDwyMjAabhIyEj0UZ8aeqDHU- ) by smtp107.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Sep 2013 08:34:57 -0700 PDT From: JT Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:34:54 -0700 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Bill regarding your exhaust I have three TR6 cars One 1974 and two 1971 with three different exhaust systems I'm in Bakersfield and would welcome you to hear all three of them and you could make your decision the exhaust was done by John at Kings muffler in Bakersfield. My phone number is 661-900-5420. JT ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 10:12:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9485040566 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:12:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-ss-1987.bluehost.com (outbound-ss-1987.bluehost.com [70.40.194.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8443540417 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 13135 invoked by uid 0); 2 Sep 2013 16:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (10.0.90.84) by soproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2013 16:06:02 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:06:02 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=55464 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VGWde-000246-MK; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:06:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:05:57 -0500 To: "Jim Vassiliadis" , From: Tony Drews References: <4EDD1B2315A845E9A0E559BF7DDD0B0E@AMD5400> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I specifically install the gasket with the seams down. If you've had your head milled it open up the combustion chamber and you'll have less of the seam compressed by the head. So, another confirmation that you're good to go and don't need to worry about it. Cheers, Tony Drews At 02:18 AM 9/2/2013, Jim Vassiliadis wrote: >I just finished torquing down my TR4 head and think I've put the head gasket >upside down. >Its a composite copper asbestos looking one with no top marking. >So after googling I thought that the smooth side should go againt the head >and the side with the copper folded over around the chambers against the >liners. >then it occurred to me that I vaguely remember one of Randals photos with >them the other way around. >Does anyone know? >If I have I understand that those type of head gaskets are oncers? > >Jim and the the TR4 thats being slowly reassembled > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 10:58:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C5642916 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755A440417 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 16:51:56 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.140] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 16:51:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 16:51:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 24079 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2013 16:51:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378140715; bh=oA0CtohqSwxZ1IjEkwQlRWoJNphFlkOMzdWzsPV6Dn8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JhpOU7T8xU4Gl+C2jlxGV6H5QH+PJkEOd67XJGj/8uTi1gGolOO9gaXEXZYyR0Pu5SNJbAz7botRgsjKIW0OSiO3k5QajDRXjvhz3bS5d9aXjo/B5odj+JHyI/YoSyblLf3bd9/t3K2qwROr3ne1e5gLR1Py7HZ8MoiGFj9SRpk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cVXWFU0BmshxZ1y8medkW6te7NjvUcd4RVNwt1QMIjhTaDG0Uy0PYoUGxgIXOF4nledn9jp0e/Vy3HBV5poiPShXzmZ2rk+s5M4d/WfwxvHECEE+ueB34jB01hbvzryRDZFeVKp4mTPvg+bLONdRZb3Uf90Dqu3X0zeLDy8ZAqQ=; cEhECCW1J3.A.jHmmHViQ Received: from [71.84.111.152] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:51:54 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIG5lZWQgdG8gZ2V0IG5ldyB0aXJlcyBvbiBteSBNYWxsYXJkIDE5NzQgVFI2LiBJdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIG1vc3Qgb2YgdXMgYXJlIGdldHRpbmcgMjA1LTcwLTE1J3Mgb3IgNzUvMTUncy4gSSBnZXQgbXkgdGlyZXMgZnJvbSBhIGd1eSBuZWFyIHdoZXJlIEkgd29yayBhbmQgd2lsbCBsZXQgaGltIG9yZGVyIHRoZW0uIExvb2tpbmcgYXQgVGlyZVJhY2suY29tIHRoZXkgcmVjb21tZW5kIEt1bWhvIFNvbGlzIEtIMTYgaW4gMjA1LTcwLzE1IGZvciAkNzIuIEFueW9uZSBoYXZlIGFueSByZWNvbW0BMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:51:54 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Tires & the story Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to get new tires on my Mallard 1974 TR6. It looks like most of us are getting 205-70-15's or 75/15's. I get my tires from a guy near where I work and will let him order them. Looking at TireRack.com they recommend Kumho Solis KH16 in 205-70/15 for $72. Anyone have any recommendations? I was going to buy Kumho's in the past and I think that the model was the Ecsta or something like that. Long story short on bombarding the list with TR6 questions. My TR6 took a solid punch (for the second time, I discovered) to the left front headlight before I bought it. I took it to a body shop that had done a good job on my TR3A previously. They completely screwed it up and played games with me (left car in the rain with now top, acted like they didn't understand English and written instructions). When I got it back, the hood couldn't be opened or closed because the hood hinge attach point was wonkered back about 1" from where it was supposed to be. They put on bondo in the headlight area that was 1" thick. It wasn't worth dealing with these guys anymore and I was just happy to get my car back away from them. Then the key was stuck in the ignition and wouldn't turn or come out. The car sat for 4 years in my garage in that state. SWMBO has been threatening to have the car towed to the crusher. I also have found a Triumph Renown that want to pick up. To avert disaster, I cut out and welded in a new front left clip (front valence and front left inner fender) from a same year TR6. Now the hood opens and closes like a Swiss vault and I am really happy with it. I need to take the car to a different body shop to be repainted. I found a body & paint shop that paints airplanes and the owner works well with us British car guys (painted about 5 of my friends British cars) and gives us a good price. I am taking my car there in two weeks to get it repainted. Now that the car is heading back on the road (off the road since 1980!) It needs lots of love. Seats, brakes, tires, exhaust, you name it. And that's the story. Bill Brewer Tehachapi, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 12:46:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC184296B for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DEA406A1 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ro12so5043134pbb.27 for ; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:42:41 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index; bh=zDvGQ5Aa3H+lVIzRmLxGrVvVyMlxJzEG2PYDzbuKbTs=; b=Be3ONUdPjeiimpm5MKwbyLaBM3gpg31D/SrrIuXjT+ihUinx+K8e+jzptFvAcq1npx svLwSkVeNB4g3M9/+SEjEnULWPOyXVit+oz2FIUE3lplZyNGXovQVZvEQkKXpgchg86W 9KgyDu+5nIiotqfB0Frj/pvqz2tSV7x0K6fnyAiEMuzNPs7cVKk3OjT4jnm62+qGvohx kBhYJ5VEEfhCFQDjPxS45+2nM9iSm8umrVhQfMqjbjvdJpa6QFCHVp5w5Sajul58DHZa JLLtd8nlZPm2fvYV99jtWtbPUGu0TJRlDMkXjg1zOYNCMwW+I0n7wimkUpRYutuQahdT OwpQ== eh7mr4441679pad.153.1378147361485; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMD5400 (122-59-245-167.jetstream.xtra.co.nz. [122.59.245.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yk1sm17598757pac.15.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Vassiliadis" To: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:42:45 +1200 Thread-index: Ac6oDDcLug9Uh1N5SPOyhAy1XYAlKQ== Subject: [TR] head gasket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thankyou for the replies. Magic just what I wanted to hear, I don't have to tear down again. Although I'm putting the little guy back together myself, the body work is being farmed out to someone else. I normally do everything myself but am busy trying to start up my fruitee sodas venture. I've found someone who charges a reasonable NZ$45 plus tax and will get him to do a bit and see how it turns out. I'm looking forward to driving him again. Jim. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 13:18:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87340437 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18479400AD for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 13:12:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130902191231.RLRD10448.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:12:31 -0400 Received: from UserPC ([96.32.2.169]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id LKCU1m00Y3enFnk05KCUK6; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:12:31 -0400 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Dqd7sUegF68A:10 a=mkuR5niSAAAA:8 a=SOJt8Uv63vdEUv3c8NIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=LIPOeXZ5RS25ZxYR5JMA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=KnhK7R6lSQIxls9S:21 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:12:28 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6oEDwty2yIkzTyQ6+/62brsd36qg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] CT Triumph Gathering Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers - Just a reminder that the Connecticut Triumph Register will be holding our 33rd Annual Gathering of British Motorcars this coming Sunday, September 8th at Wickham Park in Manchester, Conn. Please visit our website at http://www.CTriumph.com for details. A registration form can be downloaded from the website. This is a participant - judged gathering and hasn't been rained out yet in the previous 32 years. Hope to see you there. Thanks. Sorry if this is a repeat - the first version didn't go through this morning. Alex Thomson Treasurer, CTR ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 14:35:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B084429BE for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648944044D for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSI00FG5M6GDUU4@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:27:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1378140714.22208.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:27:44 -0400 Thread-index: AQKWyNaCh+aGrk6yutjYkNJlSnA37pgie0bQ Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Tires & the story Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill - my only suggestion is to wait on the tires until it is ready for the road. If the project stalls, the tires continue to age. If you have to get tires to get it around - find some used ones or get tubes. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 12:52 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Tires & the story I need to get new tires on my Mallard 1974 TR6. It looks like most of us are getting 205-70-15's or 75/15's. I get my tires from a guy near where I work and will let him order them. Looking at TireRack.com they recommend Kumho Solis KH16 in 205-70/15 for $72. Anyone have any recommendations? I was going to buy Kumho's in the past and I think that the model was the Ecsta or something like that. Long story short on bombarding the list with TR6 questions. My TR6 took a solid punch (for the second time, I discovered) to the left front headlight before I bought it. I took it to a body shop that had done a good job on my TR3A previously. They completely screwed it up and played games with me (left car in the rain with now top, acted like they didn't understand English and written instructions). When I got it back, the hood couldn't be opened or closed because the hood hinge attach point was wonkered back about 1" from where it was supposed to be. They put on bondo in the headlight area that was 1" thick. It wasn't worth dealing with these guys anymore and I was just happy to get my car back away from them. Then the key was stuck in the ignition and wouldn't turn or come out. The car sat for 4 years in my garage in that state. SWMBO has been threatening to have the car towed to the crusher. I also have found a Triumph Renown that want to pick up. To avert disaster, I cut out and welded in a new front left clip (front valence and front left inner fender) from a same year TR6. Now the hood opens and closes like a Swiss vault and I am really happy with it. I need to take the car to a different body shop to be repainted. I found a body & paint shop that paints airplanes and the owner works well with us British car guys (painted about 5 of my friends British cars) and gives us a good price. I am taking my car there in two weeks to get it repainted. Now that the car is heading back on the road (off the road since 1980!) It needs lots of love. Seats, brakes, tires, exhaust, you name it. And that's the story. Bill Brewer Tehachapi, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 20:17:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532B0429E7 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1F8429C1 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:11:00 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=AiYCGpVMy70A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=zyw22ADVgqgA:10 a=fYySGLewxQEw7UGsO5UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55015] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 91/1C-21526-23545225; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:10:58 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:10:56 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6oQwuHQ/XtB+3JRgujhPW8+SzziwABPDsg Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] cooling tr-3............questions on randalls post. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gary, You probably meant to send this to the list, not just to me. > Refilled radiator and ran car with cap off in > order to observe and noted no air bubbles so I don't think > its head gasket. Not to belabor the point, but several times now I have had head gasket leaks that only showed up under heavy engine load (when cylinder pressures are highest). With Stag #1, I could literally drive around all day if I was gentle with the throttle; but if I floored it up a freeway ramp, it would blow all the coolant out by the time I got to the freeway. So not seeing bubbles with the engine just idling doesn't necessarily mean you don't have a leak. > I also noted with new cap installed and > during revving engine there was some seapage under the cap > out the overflow when engine revved, this was during a > radiator temperature of around 185 to 188 so it wasn't boiling. Another sign that you are getting combustion gases into the coolant. If you don't want to have a shop do the test; there is an "old timers" test you can try: Remove the fan belt and thermostat housing, then fill the system so it is level full with the outlet in the head. Start the engine, and quickly rev it hard, 2 or 3 times; then shut it off again. If the water gushes out of the head while revving the engine, you've got a combustion leak. > I've > also noticed that my new cap has no rubber gasket under it. > There is only a steel "washer like" surface there. That would make it an accurate reproduction of the original cap. > I'm wondering what modification > Randall made to his cap for the "longer neck" tr-3 I started with a Stant "Lev-R-Vent" cap, and tapped out the pin that holds the lever so the cap came apart. Then I made an extension for the center pin, and spacers for the spring and seal. I wasn't really recommending that anyone do the same; just trying to make the point that the original TR3 filler neck & cap are setup with approx 1" from the top of the neck to the surface inside where the cap seals; while that same dimension on most newer cars is only 3/4". But I think you've got more going on than just the cap not sealing to the neck. Perhaps you should disconnect the recover bottle and get the system working without it first, so you can tell the difference. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 22:22:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A853B429F1 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.123]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7F94038B for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:13:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.175] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 04:13:13 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.238] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 04:13:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 04:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 57513 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2013 04:13:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378181593; bh=bz1M58d0h2x5XE5H/fc2Qox2T5/+m3axMvoQhwdPrMk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rtX80X3wAAJLdnC4Gu/iNKex5o9PDSbviNPAulixY2OueHv5mTNx74Jx6qzmW1gtsZtpX6A7t0nfr2u0haspBBSJ5zvkSruPMLnuKHShXjd0a8FaS/r++tFiZAHVUmMFYMAL89fKKswd7osecWe53KgyWk3bKPa/LGQ4JbT/dr4= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zwgP3+FyGnMA/B0rFGSath8w7Nj7jM2XBol1q/5WIGAK1I096lfFAYkk5utX4Rnb04fBMbrWaxmIy6VN+czIXqT981CZezbBo/Vj6AlOo0xY0SblEW2MLgJYUY2rrdw67E0nrJNU1GCCwKWFEWSgh5w8AEkocGCLiEoWy97RsGY=; NLkYogmUxMV_DUHneIYsnRG6wBKLiXJo9PZFIph_UBGheAt5co6waoXE_XUM fLWNqZ9uLuHccgZVNNMSWJ9J3b9JQVW_3zWMamAPfPotFG17tF7r79UA8Soe ZKDABFiSVqQnJjo75ndc0rXQLNYlOTRGQhCe9JexyEKYskbkOzyOZ_CB2ZGc sJzRca3CIwR0pgxKQMwaqsiCDi6LnZcUiOaJqqhKROAptG.0PKgToGxolvD0 _lkKN1qP9F1J95gb6bjPWDp_7vcbsJ60e4FBJmBEWxTuEa3I4fGSFE1eA6YG EMoqKV58PusmnQ.cjjTTvuGgUe6NIEXMN2bDkUa9CzfNSpFe7ZlMJ18OX3la rox6krjpW4Kp1v2NKhgeNbl6Ac7NNp0TfZi1Gb_w3.l15LPNAZJAFiUJcDZB AP4ZIXR.X.ucVK1cWtJDKPtSTbcl8pZt8AyWoV2RxrGAsgjej9CgM2xHaS4n fU2mFGeFl4RoRq0qMRYYUHSTMJUFy.V3W1lsBCo9DfcbxbLO.JlBxG3sesbK Ma4nj Received: from [108.240.212.248] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:13:12 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGhhZCB0byByZW1vdmUgYSBncmVhc2UgY2FwIG9mZiBvZiB0aGUgZnJvbnQgaHViIG9uIG15IFRSNi4gSXQgd2FzIHNlcmlvdXNseSBvbiB0aGVyZSBhbmQgYmFuZ2VkIHVwIGZyb20gd2hvZXZlciBsYXN0IHRyaWVkIHRvIGdldCBpdCBvZmYuIEkgZW5kZWQgdXAgaGl0dGluZyBpdCB3aXRoIGEgY29sZCBjaGlzZWwgdG8gZmluYWxseSBnZXQgaXQgb2ZmLiBXaGF0IGEgUElUQS4KwqAgwqAgwqBJcyB0aGVyZSBhIHdheSB0byBzZXQgdXAgZ3JlYXNlIGNhcHMgc28geW91IGNhbiBnZXQgdGhlbSABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 21:13:12 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had to remove a grease cap off of the front hub on my TR6. It was seriously on there and banged up from whoever last tried to get it off. I ended up hitting it with a cold chisel to finally get it off. What a PITA. Is there a way to set up grease caps so you can get them off easier for next time? I was thinking of drilling a hole through the center and mig welding a nut on the outside so I could thread a bolt through and push against the stub axle to push it off. Likewise, I thought about just putting a little blob of weld on the outside of the cap so I could butt up a drift to it to tap it off easier. Has anyone got any tricks to getting these grease caps off easier? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 00:57:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5924A40437 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 00:57:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF32140404 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 00:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LWrp1m00117UAYk01WtT6h; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 06:53:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LWtR1m00U4L5TyG8ZWtSaT; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 06:53:26 +0000 From: Bud R To: William Brewer Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 00:53:25 -0600 References: <1378181592.55891.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> s=q20121106; t=1378191207; bh=o+i11KcrNExWScu27PVm3NGfV4XyqpLJ3fJX4TF1pTQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=KGvZOVh+3mkHOAnsbMxTqtOGKz+Wad27urvCYRnu10pWyq9wsQhUb4hh/EoyxOlDD E93xQjfSMPbP5O+YR7SuTN+b4cd94QP2cklcSx+IMsJkqNzqGPyR3+Bq2BIxB7I/9G xYtXFX9rVU2ZkgwmLdFvs0lHLSBD6iLYHDYqDqM3vfSy7GSQEkXiuS5VIfcsESkOW2 /8AaLw3igOPcFQ8byoHttyTZtTn3IT1vLSgQsTf1zE3tm/HlRjjTea3WlsJJgELTeq aTGOMK2E7BhijtzGE+GLrNfxXM40ZfMlTWnjUE5gZSbe7qA0FgXcClrMgcdiiY6Nh+ K+TdOENUtVIHw== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A set of needle nose vise grips has never failed to get them off for me. Lock em down and a little wiggling and Bob's your uncle. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:13 PM, William Brewer wrote: > I had to remove a grease cap off of the front hub on my TR6. It > was > seriously on there and banged up from whoever last tried to get it > off. I > ended up hitting it with a cold chisel to finally get it off. What a > PITA. > > Is there a way to set up grease caps so you can get them off easier > for next > time? I was thinking of drilling a hole through the center and mig > welding a > nut on the outside so I could thread a bolt through and push against > the stub > axle to push it off. Likewise, I thought about just putting a little > blob of > weld on the outside of the cap so I could butt up a drift to it to > tap it off > easier. > Has anyone got any tricks to getting these grease caps off > easier? > TIA, > > Bill in Tehachapi > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 03:32:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF0240423 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 03:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EBD40403 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 03:24:46 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=uQ3wx5qGxOMA:10 a=C6CgFazZE2McspA5xVwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 15/9C-21526-8DAA5225; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:24:46 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 02:24:37 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6oXTEhW92slqiNRl6CTrmJDPMrFAAGmvTw Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Is there a way to set up grease caps so you can get them off > easier for next > time? I was thinking of drilling a hole through the center > and mig welding a > nut on the outside so I could thread a bolt through and push > against the stub > axle to push it off. There should already be a 10-32 hole for that. But I find that the threads are usually not strong enough, so I epoxy a nut inside the cap. (ISTR that was originally a tip from Geo Hahn) Or you could probably find a cap at FLAPS with the rolled edge so you can pry it off. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 08:50:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A92940414 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE2940401 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id e15so3845376vbg.18 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sDoBTM2a+SHuGgkA/M8IMQME9jF6VDXtbsu0JIy54WY=; b=qmbbgu0z+IfxM1UmJLc5cYct0rGqpdnfiGMSdnTLWoMZeGblX0aL2veUCsCks3ku6f dhZkoXCdbwn4GvtiLFImLgW8AwhtMYtgWDCZVSOSgd9Nkryc/YR9igfqpOj2TK+fenzm btar16/659rRts1UY7DEidWzVbpKKo3XSkeLBzFeTLumU6DtHYTWjCh2KgDDhCfG5fst SI5JtMM0V77c0c5JWYmbJlCo6j2Q8hHe6u9fKM8ZmGbs+sLMAfEMgRu02L/Yeo273RjZ ZqdJDKAHOQNyRfeM8zVyTU3HkcrcXfvQMT13w0zBgAAhUVXb/LtOLvrTMYcJTEmQr3Re oAvg== Tue, 03 Sep 2013 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.208 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:27:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378181592.55891.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <15.9C.21526.8DAA5225@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:27:49 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Randall wrote: > There should already be a 10-32 hole for that. But I find that the threads > are usually not strong enough, so I epoxy a nut inside the cap. > I keep a 10/32 eye bolt (about 2" long) in the mini tool kit (Lucas points tool, SU wrench, etc) which threads in and pushes the cap out w/o any wrench required. http://wedo.hillmangroup.com/ImgMedium/320754.jpg Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 10:04:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954834044D for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A03740401 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x18so5129113lbi.17 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JWuxuRVesT8NJhifgshA32CBSUh24qSJ6K5eAC5FljE=; b=yS/q258QpOCWglEqrNtqhyhWogVjvTePmvXDFS9fKWm+pRWGC/i172j11RFnTdXLuC LEuZ6v14f2HVRjiyOA2wXyo/wHq3i6pVR6VrlOgfHtCSk59WA0eH4OJhMUv8oWzQnnbs 5sBhpo4pjf/Dqmts+X0vC/UZd6FJ/2uFGaiom7qGMskcAfxjBtIo0UU28MhH3e/HM1oo RWnwIp7eoeq3DoMN3JHXhw1aX4SI8kB9uHBgq4lbGfzmx5c+tVxiQOxGCF5WyyyTr7TI 4e6wcTCI8lw7g83PSfzrSHPJnbf/P9o5DQDokaQ9jM6XJA0bFekwEQe6Ban7FTyMgaOf zE3w== l10mr27316271lam.12.1378222775407; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:39:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378181592.55891.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <15.9C.21526.8DAA5225@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:39:35 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe I bought poor caps, but the 10-32 screw route rarely worked for me. Maybe I whack the cap in place too tightly with my rubber hammer.... Caps are pretty cheap, I keep two in the spares kitty. I might weld a small nub on opposing sides next time to aid in removal next time. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 10:04:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E9429CA for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2417403D0 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 15:40:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.160] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 15:40:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1071.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 15:40:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 93354 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2013 15:40:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378222826; bh=/fmdSbxW2vmA5Q4bTQ50ZNFcL9S5eaRZoVT5V/6gxDM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DjlUO1bwDl3EBXKgql3rjr9X9dM7CJh8bFi03JGhwnBgZnuHQFvMFC9wWjOsH4C8ePAddWO+fgQty17RaAdpWwxo9zqNVYmoGSknwHrkY8ArmeFSHDlhlyCJ5wlzjPUFsDxDiRx6oHEv6J9OXP7TtXUI9C2eN21NLvXvG4nh2WE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dcGb/KXWJcANd8ha0ITUISwMMaTulWLWEJL+W6KKk22rzaH/bMh11OqAopYqbilCzqZEa72Cn1RAthY7bRvZ81h1QEjgMpAx4hwO2X3N8ZbbrYMY14sl4vdCvRmfT5u3CGx9/SnlLkPcyGXSaqH90fy7G4Z2Mrru7uXQk4Hu5kQ=; 1IK2jrfdQ3_R0YHrCleSSDT0uxPLIUii7s5qKsAKgymm1z42keRWRp9yOumw E7hj5TrQDJeGfu60A5Zk3fSEN74id8G45aGazeedJqr2WUuFovQCSsoZ0AWd CgChuvDh5factOcWFyH38d2k4uGQQvpTv6nClTQf8O2YgtSrCWNNczsVdcFY kCM1Ag.5so1d.6Ssg_e0uep37x6KzC3hv1NjWFdD6vZqOu6niMY6QoBlWphQ OOuva3dHuXpKqe_mPenQSejSr.eG2RUYXkUEg0kMwlmGVPvPXH3DvSu7AiAC vyqC2D.h42MQs66beKpPcrJmGE6bAyu15w1Rebaer8yW4USQRaHxxWY6WPnu yP2UZ6pShaYU.6XgYPm64em18Q39z1MQrAweBXKXRKFMt13gSDMcR0rsfHyE uHvknwQj_ODB1rWZlSxZjY6FYknwxt81ReyR_IUhBnYEOubhs9cAyxJ4JKtB bzna5HB7cupvLv1eIHFHinHi7JIqtDLGlxuXalM2wd9Ob_PK4DtlhbfTxeCa nPCX9GYI6Gdjio2_lAoX44BIbhnZdSoIO_lfihbeSrm9zgsO5WQ-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:40:25 PDT c25hcCBvbiBtYWtlcyBhIHRvb2wgc3BlY2lmaWNhbGx5IGZvciB0aGlzIHRhc2suCkkgbG92ZSB0b29scwrCoApGcmFuawogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogV2lsbGlhbSBCcmV3ZXIgPHdzYjE5NjB0cjNhQGF0dC5uZXQ.ClRvOiBUcml1bXBocyA8dHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBNb25kYXksIFNlcHRlbWJlciAyLCAyMDEzIDk6MTMgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogW1RSXSBUUiBHcmVhc2UgQ2FwIFJlbW92YWwKICAKCsKgIMKgICBJIGhhZCB0byByZW0BMAEBAQE- References: <1378181592.55891.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:40:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: William Brewer , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net snap on makes a tool specifically for this task. I love tools Frank ________________________________ From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal I had to remove a grease cap off of the front hub on my TR6. It was seriously on there and banged up from whoever last tried to get it off. I ended up hitting it with a cold chisel to finally get it off. What a PITA. Is there a way to set up grease caps so you can get them off easier for next time? I was thinking of drilling a hole through the center and mig welding a nut on the outside so I could thread a bolt through and push against the stub axle to push it off. Likewise, I thought about just putting a little blob of weld on the outside of the cap so I could butt up a drift to it to tap it off easier. Has anyone got any tricks to getting these grease caps off easier? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 10:34:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFD740425 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8C0403EC for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:29:03 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=uQ3wx5qGxOMA:10 a=1HBh0HXc2-UkV10pZooA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VWcHnVKnC-cA:10 a=FJ35_O1uyiUA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 13/80-15218-E4E06225; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:29:02 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:29:00 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6ov1sLcHph6byVTrirdtFrsRwRnAAAp9vg Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > snap on makes a tool specifically for this task. How does it grab the cap? I've seen the tools designed for the American-style caps, with the rolled edge for the tool to grab; but never one to grab a smooth cap like the original TR caps. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 11:45:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437DA40414 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:45:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E601F40414 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:44:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 17:44:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.166] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 17:44:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 17:44:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 12809 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2013 17:44:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378230288; bh=oHUmCyVUmKdJXFL/NakwfC6jjYcGHax71EEGOkqtKww=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rABXKWl2ng+IUFabSkgSjoCzDDQtAjVYt+ZMI1ftKpAuYZ2frRd+LcgahCufbBt+QO0yCxp5Mf7a4w1R8qgUnRtYQQ0gDqVr/yivHLioKNURNyh7nbdoZc8Y2+0wkuemXVYOY3JQkoJCu/w0iKJNmmBnvFcLgWvg6Cg/tli70xQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MYuoAnm1jzSMjSWADXuN1Du5QmxkCQBKM91nIV1BZiVhPnoyPkREVJycx8XE6afIL0SEdkozoJseEPZ25QPhEF07RbY9kkgiylrQjkrSbulHcoyzDrBoT7SGSaxhyVurmmAWOUEO0mHMYp8KzfcBUA7YfvbIwybxiJnaDdBZxZA=; bJPem9h0w39kpYi5D18vp55jEjH5ReY2PvkZUNMY2SHeaT4x4V59qsIa9RRE IzeVhLF9UlhalCPYySBJUCauOu6blP8pgydMnGdwZG03k4Hj8C77myRBRqwI G_bcP3e667e.JFLvtOOenhNvzoe0CyQBr5cooLuKUBRDISXNDxyDjvhROzhx j2Tm4dJtCnZvuwyFd6dPBoA_9rNzKZhHm8gDKPCedf.sARMhbMQ.mEMsmyKa 45z0m8NQ_SlgXbhsxdbG8MsbqXJfSsuqi9IPOuzO2RHG6wzppj0lbvYX8eBL y5IzdL12O7jyJtHkn4E2UCu5U9kTAXyAJlbqh2Ae..2WeCXBGnwohIrc_J_1 SC8iQhId.swp0AFUwH8D8mEwWExrSiFgbLz5kmHXnkoQiF_FTlDqZyEDsyYZ VKONEYDZxo7WiRMwJ4vuW51ZQ_oSjS5bLp1fwZzu7PQLfdO8faF_20HpvCfq 4yMst6CBiO4ERxEIVP7U3NO27nfx68Yx1Wauqd2ogpt2OHdLLN3dl1U68QpC xeINWHPDjBquUG2QwsP55LcdWyrJ_aHTYH7TNKVmQG6B1._Eb.gUmLQNDTnQ Yz9uwh8EyCcQQ3oOjX_61uVXjQxmCODaPMRhO0NoYT4psmJCwHS9CONvGZdL xBCDriH_WTJud5VQaqpJkEsIGdbHzHfxpSI2gy7kY_xkXtGiQpnxPoYN3DTi SnQSqwUPtuXRycEq1aCvCLQ-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 10:44:48 PDT dGhlIHRvb2wgbG9va3MgbGlrZSBhIHBhaXIgb2YgbGFyZ2UgcGluY2VyIHBseWVycy4KdGhlIGphd3MgYXJlIGFib3V0IDEiIHdpZGUuCnRoZSBqYXdzIGFyZSBncm91bmQgd2l0aCBhIHJhZGl1cyB0byB0aGVtIG9mIGFib3V0IHRoZSBzYW1lIGFzIHRoZSBncmVhc2UgY2FwIHJhZGl1cywKdGhlIGphd3MgYXJlIGFsc28gZ3JvdW5kIHNvIHRoZXkgYXJlIGFsbW9zdCBhIHZlcnkgc2hhcnAgZWRnZS4KdGhleSBlYXNpbHkgZGVhbCB3aXRoIHRoZSByb2xsZWQgZWRnZS4gb24gdGhlIHNtb290aCBjYXBzIHRoZSABMAEBAQE- References: <1378222825.92058.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <13.80.15218.E4E06225@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 10:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net the tool looks like a pair of large pincer plyers. the jaws are about 1" wide. the jaws are ground with a radius to them of about the same as the grease cap radius, the jaws are also ground so they are almost a very sharp edge. they easily deal with the rolled edge. on the smooth caps the radius and sharp grind allow them to grasp the cap very firmly. don't be overzealous with the firmness of grasp. I know snap on tools are very expensive. these came as a birthday present form my son. but they do double up as a hub cap remover. they do this by bending the end of one of the handles. I could not find the snap on part but I found this on the Mac tool site http://www.mactools.com/ShopOnline/Product/tabid/120/productid/318729/varian tid/309488/Default.aspx Frank ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'Triumphs' Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal > snap on makes a tool specifically for this task. How does it grab the cap? I've seen the tools designed for the American-style caps, with the rolled edge for the tool to grab; but never one to grab a smooth cap like the original TR caps. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 12:15:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62EB4042C for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 12:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C97440423 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 12:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hm2so1176197wib.10 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:14:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7HwtUoMEfWlKJDOBkHvx6a+4rvebui8XRJAcdqxukKs=; b=irfSz9RhXlM1HYH2i7SNt9PaJKYFgeP4B3AlvoIyeR9Vu/1sYliLqsIbSNB+12ToFo 0LfsZtbtHpw3myn6Zvc86LQQv7X+5Goe/raUgoqjePoC1kZJ0Vlo0uCjfxvKHG3uuypk 7e+Gtx+iAIEcuu3PUvY5IPsl10Uwoxm1PLXJzI1W4936KH23iUCK3fQQrNmgod2nIld/ xTnlmue7VjwghoGQlxYayYEmdakyUe9I5mC3EGw0AbdONhlZPGjxfelJ/JcCT05OiZ4B rIwXi4Zh5OyzRey9loN6ER1Bu6DvppdrNl8yKSpMZsD9ESNlRIz7W5r3gQm1lXJW3+PV TquA== fx17mr19481254wic.49.1378232065231; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:14:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378222825.92058.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <13.80.15218.E4E06225@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <1378230288.12498.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 13:14:25 -0500 From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=636013&group_ID=675671 On 9/3/13, Frank Fisher wrote: > the tool looks like a pair of large pincer plyers. > the jaws are about 1" wide. > the jaws are ground with a radius to them of about the same as the grease > cap > radius, > the jaws are also ground so they are almost a very sharp edge. > they > easily deal with the rolled edge. on the smooth caps the radius and sharp > grind allow them to grasp the cap very firmly. don't be overzealous with > the > firmness of grasp. > > I know snap on tools are very expensive. these came as a > birthday present form my son. > > but they do double up as a hub cap remover. > they do this by bending the end of one of the handles. > > I could not find the > snap on part but I found this on the Mac tool site > > http://www.mactools.com/ShopOnline/Product/tabid/120/productid/318729/varian > tid/309488/Default.aspx > > Frank > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Randall > To: 'Triumphs' > Sent: > Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal >> snap on makes a tool specifically for this task. > > How does it grab the cap? > I've seen the tools designed for the > American-style caps, with the rolled edge > for the tool to grab; but never > one to grab a smooth cap like the original TR > caps. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 12:28:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B78B4044D for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 12:28:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8F9403FB for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 12:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 18:27:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 18:27:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Sep 2013 18:27:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 89903 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2013 18:27:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378232871; bh=2EvnsYswVIItijo3zKbOPF60y+SqfcKNMhV9hwFRenA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BUqxHaKrehQFlOOSvzwoeckM0pYyvUOQz6NJcDbwVtEWAv+EZC2HjVsYFYQC+vCQ+LGlUvtxLbZMltkRneLP9Oe3jmoXbl+uwr4iY5qQyup4UneqAeH0w5JAZ/MXam5nuMt+thl72lRdaGvWyptOavI3RkkIyvLecdDrNrmcuW8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aOmd+NtipWKjJvMyFakRyHBdVB0HaOBWroEXq9HaFI7c8ofNH/t5ZCYJHj6x16CokYmbHH24ldtRz32jaJEBSUuLnVaXQZhIvTULRedz4BKvnRBYPJpzOmIY8YFCGT62jymaYGKNkaGVgsxNMMGKD+IFl6IGN7FijlvPyroAMrA=; octMJghSIiSblCqcsqtPcg.nvaUFPXaJm8WrjsavdNcKQPjU8g5XGELjYVGe 8kPmZdseqbIdFMz6Sv5o6.IOGU3Z7ciWVg7u1mIfII8W8ovUypcYM1Pkx0X8 qA6IdLQ43op_MYPjFXfPWvGiF7O1VtxKcP7fTUm0v4euPRrdX6ua.ofMyS2v yF4vHPYIWLwSMChHOuZitQ99PNzBIW2xfIbSbF89NOpuJVnU6DmsIkSXwW.v fdtBNwx4rdc1iegdzYni6YeqEU_R8RuuInaiBVrwKfhr0Gi1MvPJwhUq3tpR _a_OeA7F60lzqIEnXIzXlzRmWhwwFNPHgVVAGaQXtFgBl5r2IC5AL31rci8J SCiuCX9QGRplAzeQTMfOtSwmeFXPFSHi9qsfKo8b2YxUCN9mwfFfAvxZFt0Z UTjFcBGMCURUi.l.hU47cAu7ibt6.zPWKxJpZFn.BHu5b6HcxrLObUZL1izN FE4dQdRoG3NbgAplJe6Ww9kys6zA8LaVvsmlh9ymkF807.xxgCXy3Wr3BLhj RbVZ8jgsTu9JMQ5rVWK9ZjFgIJZw6nsvFEYwby2YcRgbKUj5DI5269Fe2mOY v3Hhiex2MGWL0R2DXCE5e67rVtdixTwmbsngKfX1UeyT7aiX.mhKQBYLHx3A yKszVuYnX7BFVR_x6geA9ZSaNF2wAkMkBO6ZHi0t96Tzvmh.BmsQ9JJe2v27 yfc0N.SBnT.HkEm7PczIfOkMEtiDThkw7OqQUAmj5CsxqM7j6YOxp2RleWH7 vya6RwQHha03run1P.srQfRkI5eslC1OQgtDE Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:27:51 PDT dGhhdCdzIHRoZSBsaXR0bGUgJipeXiQlIEkgZ290LgpJIGxvdmUgaXQuCml0IHdhcyBhIGdyZWF0IHByZXNlbnQgYXMgSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBJIHdvdWxkIGhhdmUgYm91Z2h0IGl0IGZvciBteXNlbGYuCsKgCnRoYW5rcyBEb24KIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IERvbiBIaXNjb2NrIDxkb24uaGlzY29ja0BnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBUcml1bXBocyA8VHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBTZXB0ZW1iZXIgMywgMjAxMyAxMToxNCABMAEBAQE- References: <1378222825.92058.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <13.80.15218.E4E06225@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <1378230288.12498.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Don Hiscock , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net that's the little &*^^$% I got. I love it. it was a great present as I don't think I would have bought it for myself. thanks Don ________________________________ From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=636013&group_ID=675671 On 9/3/13, Frank Fisher wrote: > the tool looks like a pair of large pincer plyers. > the jaws are about 1" wide. > the jaws are ground with a radius to them of about the same as the grease > cap > radius, > the jaws are also ground so they are almost a very sharp edge. > they > easily deal with the rolled edge. on the smooth caps the radius and sharp > grind allow them to grasp the cap very firmly. don't be overzealous with > the > firmness of grasp. > > I know snap on tools are very expensive. these came as a > birthday present form my son. > > but they do double up as a hub cap remover. > they do this by bending the end of one of the handles. > > I could not find the > snap on part but I found this on the Mac tool site > > http://www.mactools.com/ShopOnline/Product/tabid/120/productid/318729/varian > tid/309488/Default.aspx > > Frank > > > > ________________________________ > From: > Randall > To: 'Triumphs' > Sent: > Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] TR Grease Cap Removal >> snap on makes a tool specifically for this task. > > How does it grab the cap? > I've seen the tools designed for the > American-style caps, with the rolled edge > for the tool to grab; but never > one to grab a smooth cap like the original TR > caps. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 17:23:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667F40450 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8524041C for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:23:39 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=IyE59tQ2fhoA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=dYNDKGqrBbYA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=xI_U3Y8VCjRuHULhRUEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=D_v9ZACB4Y5ml5Ny8C0A:9 a=ChUtz2ReGUODhrKA:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50188] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id B1/8F-02236-A7F66225; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:23:38 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:29:12 -0400 Subject: [TR] Help on adjusting the hood (engine compartment) latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, Guess what.. I managed to close and lock my hood and can't open it now. The good news (if there is any) is that I had installed a backup mechanical linkage in case the cable release quit. A little history first.. 1. I had completely taken apart the spring assembly that bolts to the underside of the hood so I am not sure how to adjust that and it is more than likely not set correctly. 2. I have new rubber bumpers in the rear of the hood and had adjusted them so the hood sits flat and level alongside the cowl. Thoughts.. I am considering attaching a pair of vise grips to the vertical stainless steel wire which is the "handle" for the mechanical release and tapping on the vise grip (lightly) while someone pushes down on the hood over the latch. If that doesn't work, I could remove the headlight buckets, remove the bolts on the hinges and fish a long rod of some kind up to the latch and trip the release that way. Once I get the hood open again, does anyone have any suggestions on steps to adjust the hood latch so I can open and close it without stressing out? Thanks, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 17:38:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC7340512 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.172.220.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E441B4041C for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (67-5-255-238.ptld.qwest.net [67.5.255.238]) by st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MSK00J1UP5UYT70@st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 23:27:36 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-03_09:2013-09-03,2013-09-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309030080 From: Darrell Walker Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:27:30 -0700 References: <9BE61C8050054760936BA1DCB9F5B44A@DaveLaptop> To: Dave Connitt Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Help on adjusting the hood (engine compartment) latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave, One thing to try to get the hood lose is to jack the car in various places, The flexing may be enough to get the latch to release. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 18:24:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC07940527 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D4F40432 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id LoKS1m0072QmmGk01oKSBa; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:19:27 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <9BE61C8050054760936BA1DCB9F5B44A@DaveLaptop> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:57:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Help on adjusting the hood (engine compartment) latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net this may or may not be relevant - one time my hood latch had gone down to the right of the catch mechanism. I got a towel to protect the hood, and just kept pushing really hard against it until it slipped loose. btw that was a tr6, but they are pretty similar ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 18:36:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E675B40519 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E754F4042E for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:29:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id oy10so4633656veb.34 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:29:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UdsLNXXuKIiWy3Feh1QxKClqjvdmyWljJWK30tJ55Xw=; b=ntRIpLuxvIZABi+j3dYrWIyqeUTt/JqFivpHY5l81HhgSHUN1rOiGf6HmHfSEpnr4w WrKR9DgBs/fiUN6KVqYcUhrozNyQzDLE8Cw33JMdGCoG7oB274Fl7Pp8kNCzwsN0oTGl zu7n1988+BRxWc4BCJ0s8R4P8hYkd33FLKFTFUZoCX3rxV74m4IC3wpJiyIwBw319OLs FJBqtebmVSrZmSPFmlP2K9zQS/OKCTjxmOo5VaxsupVkeQB/GmhlpnT28i8J7U83lo8O KbFLOQzgAJyekzW7XLzxJY5WoLNBlmxD2rf+Yy3P1fVO83k6YDvOQe5EXP9P2UNL5P7k +jMw== Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.208 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:29:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <9BE61C8050054760936BA1DCB9F5B44A@DaveLaptop> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:29:13 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Help on adjusting the hood (engine compartment) latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave -- I helped a friend with a jammed latch on his TR5. I used a 1x2 with a thick rag secured over one end in for padding and, from under the car, pushed up on the bonnet in the latch area while he jostled the releases. He had the lever-type back-up release. We finally got it to pop. As I recall. after we got it open we carefully re-lowered the bonnet to near the latch and we could peek in and see that the pin on the bonnet was not well aligned with the opening in the latch and apparently this mismatch was applying some lateral force that had jammed the works. There is quite a bit of movement possible in the mounting of the piece on the bonnet. Geo On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > Well, > Guess what.. I managed to close and lock my hood and can't open it now. > The good news (if there is any) is that I had installed a backup mechanical > linkage in case the cable release quit. > A little history first.. > 1. I had completely taken apart the spring assembly that bolts to the > underside of the hood so I am not sure how to adjust that and it is more > than > likely not set correctly. > 2. I have new rubber bumpers in the rear of the hood and had adjusted them > so > the hood sits flat and level alongside the cowl. > Thoughts.. > I am considering attaching a pair of vise grips to the vertical stainless > steel wire which is the "handle" for the mechanical release and tapping on > the > vise grip (lightly) while someone pushes down on the hood over the latch. > If that doesn't work, I could remove the headlight buckets, remove the > bolts > on the hinges and fish a long rod of some kind up to the latch and trip the > release that way. > Once I get the hood open again, does anyone have any suggestions on steps > to > adjust the hood latch so I can open and close it without stressing out? > Thanks, > Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 18:56:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425514042C for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4166403A8 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:47:39 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=3lIMzLYr9P4A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=KU0rC_jjNcYA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=YrmJaKnkbQv98nla32oA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Kz3_GRLH_dJsk4zI:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50563] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 2C/29-02236-A2386225; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 20:47:38 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:53:12 -0400 Subject: [TR] Update on stuck hood latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net SUCCESS!!! I ended up putting a vise grip on the wire handle and tapped it with a small hammer and it finally jarred loose!! I still have to figure out how to adjust the thing. I found a pin assembly in my parts bins and it is 3-1/8" across the length of the spring and mine was about 2-7/8" long so I think maybe it is just too tight and just wouldn't release. If anyone has set up one of these things, I would really appriciate hearing from you. Thanks to all that replied! Dave Connitt 1967 TR4A IRS Check out my wood dash my neighbor re-veneered in walnut. http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a go to progress and click on wood dash.. Almost ready to start! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 19:11:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0194042C for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.172.220.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42014035A for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (67-5-255-238.ptld.qwest.net [67.5.255.238]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MSK001AMTGVX260@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 01:00:37 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-03_09:2013-09-04,2013-09-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309030089 From: Darrell Walker Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:00:30 -0700 References: To: Dave Connitt Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Update on stuck hood latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you think the pin isn't right (or that the release isn't releasing enough), you could take the pin off the bonnet and make sure it works in the release. Beyond that, I made sure the cup on the end was centered on the opening, there is a depression there. Perfectly centered for me resulted in a bonnet that would open on big bumps, so I slowly moved it toward the the release until it stayed closed on bumps. -Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 20:27:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8A40454 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:27:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B2840423 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:18:06 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=reQKIgwxh4tlfQhox655a35s3mBB8tH8d7ZHHBWs+TQpW1YCNZt+68QzdmXoE+ak; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.173.117.227] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VH2fV-0007xP-EW for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:18:05 -0400 From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:18:14 -0600 Subject: [TR] Headlights, horns and exhaust manifold paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List, Ibm parallel processing some of the smaller tasks and would appreciate any opinions about: - headlight replacements. Ibve got relay circuits prepped and ready for higher power lights. The column switch only operates the relays, which switch power to the lights. Sadly I donbt know much at all about what lighting technology is available. Ibm not looking for those blue bright headlights, just something better than stock. - horns. Vendors offer both metal and plastic, with the latter about half the cost. Ibm not looking for the horn to play a song, or toot in some concours-correct tone, as long as it doesnbt sound like someonebs stepping on a sick cat, I donbt care. Any been-there-done-that? - exhaust manifold paint. That rusty old lump looks just awful in the nice, clean royal blue engine bay with shiny silver and stainless steel bits around it. Ibm considering Eastwoodbs hi-temp coating which offers to look like stainless when finished : http://www.eastwood.com/stainless-steel-gray-hi-temp-coating.html. Any happy/sad experience with this product, or other brands? Thanks very much, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 20:33:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9DA40521 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.172.220.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5976240423 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:32:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (67-5-255-238.ptld.qwest.net [67.5.255.238]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.07(7.0.4.27.6) 64bit (built Jun 21 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MSK00MTHXQJXI50@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 02:32:50 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-04_01:2013-09-04,2013-09-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309030097 From: Darrell Walker Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:32:43 -0700 References: <83651378D8E5429987EAFDA609324D49@Shemp> To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Headlights, horns and exhaust manifold paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Cliff, On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Cliff Hansen wrote: > - headlight replacements. Ibve got relay circuits prepped and ready for > higher power lights. The column switch only operates the relays, which switch > power to the lights. Sadly I donbt know much at all about what lighting > technology is available. Ibm not looking for those blue bright headlights, > just something better than stock. I came across this a while ago, it is probably how I would go if I decide upgrade the lights on my cars: http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html > - exhaust manifold paint. That rusty old lump looks just awful in the nice, > clean royal blue engine bay with shiny silver and stainless steel bits around > it. Ibm considering Eastwoodbs hi-temp coating which offers to look like > stainless when finished : > http://www.eastwood.com/stainless-steel-gray-hi-temp-coating.html. Any > happy/sad experience with this product, or other brands? I've painted manifolds with various high-temp paints, and have had good results. On a used/rusty manifold, it is probably worthwhile to get it blasted in some manner. The last ones I did were for my TR8, I had them blasted, then used Rustoeleum high temp primer and then paint. They've held up for two years and still look great. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 21:18:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1950D40525 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D191740423 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:17:50 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=_PE1VZf9gsgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=wqRDnapC1McA:10 a=qBQf-avGAAAA:8 a=veqzyIi606couQxz6HIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Rvo-I0aO6q4A:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55009] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 18/7E-21526-D56A6225; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 03:17:49 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'list Triumph'" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:17:48 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6pFxrXf5it5LjtRkaBZDgCwO53JwAAiosg Subject: Re: [TR] Headlights, horns and exhaust manifold paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I came across this a while ago, it is probably how I would go > if I decide > upgrade the lights on my cars: > > http://www.ratwell.com/technical/BoschH4.html FWIW, I have (well, had) those Bosch conversions from Bus Depot. The price is outstanding, and there is nothing really wrong with the lamps. But I just don't like the light pattern quite as well as some of the others I have had. The hot spot is a bit too close to the car on low beam (with the high beam aimed properly), and they kick a little too much light up on the right. I plan to try something else, preferably with a European "E-code" rating. I see where Amazon has Hella H4 lamps for $36/ea (plus $4 for a 55/60 bulb). But I'm tempted to get the Valeo (formerly Cibii) lamps, even though they are twice the price. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 3 22:01:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C50E4051E for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC618403D9 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 22:01:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Ls0y1m00E2QmmGk01s0yfm; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 21:00:59 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "list Triumph" References: <83651378D8E5429987EAFDA609324D49@Shemp> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:01:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Headlights, horns and exhaust manifold paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net for the exhaust - ceramic coating. looks beautiful, lasts, well, I don't know. several years and counting. still looks brand new. horns - I just bought a set from pep boys I think. horns are supposed to be loud. and they are. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 13:19:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA3240530 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FA240527 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:19:09 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=BKmRdvKBffDVjZCHzCK0+g==:117 a=BKmRdvKBffDVjZCHzCK0+g==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=W2WgwHm10G4A:10 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=lE-apdL79DAA:10 a=OyZPjff-ZgCEstnlrikA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 65.78.44.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [65.78.44.200] ([65.78.44.200:49333] helo=[192.168.1.131]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id BA/19-07508-AA787225; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 15:19:07 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 15:19:06 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [TR] Update on stuck hood latch on my TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As someone already wrote, first be sure that the pin and spring is centered over the latch. Then I would adjust the length of the pin on the long side (don't know what to tell you as I can't get to mine now). The pin has a screwdriver slot in the pointed end and is screwed into the bracket and secured with a lock nut. You'll have to pull the spring back or fish the wrench between the coils to loosen the nut. So, if the pin is adjusted to long the spring will hold it higher than the body. Then you can re-adjust to get the hood flush. One other tip: one time I pulled the hood release and thought I had broken the cable or pulled it from the fitting. After I got it open, it turned out that the clip on the outer cable which holds the cable to the hood latch had slipped off the latch and when that happens, it doesn't work. Allen TR4 since 1967 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 18:40:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25215406A7 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4248A40538 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:33:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130905003339.SAPJ3871.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:33:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([68.102.188.186]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id MCZe1m00J41kCY401CZf0Z; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 20:33:39 -0400 a=h9rF95GeLltkpMuadUVPJA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=bV_AKg0eNscA:10 a=3tm5sdmwBQjV_eBcWgsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=86oZWcdoauYA:10 a=njj9P0rZ3hUA:10 a=h9rF95GeLltkpMuadUVPJA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=fmags@cox.net From: Frank Magnusson Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:33:41 -0500 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Exhaust manifold paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cliff, I've used Bill Hirsch's high temp exhaust manifold paint. I've had it on several different cars for many years. Still looks new, no chipping or flaking. He advertises in Hemings, but probably can also find him on the Internet. Great on the whole exhaust system and intake manifold as well. frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 18:55:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C414056E for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39596403F7 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MCb21m00727AodY51CqulD; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:50:54 +0000 Received: from [10.234.130.17] ([174.254.150.11]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MCqi1m00x0F0CVa3fCqlbg; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:50:52 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?RnJhbmsgTWFnbnVzc29u?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?dHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ=?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:50:51 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1378342254; bh=QgvXZwryaaQbTn1/DLNWpcckxwiFAwcKkjemO0imhmE=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UR+loti0mgtvtEuK1IPieCJ/ANKZVsGs5W0zRpV5TC4aEJPaWeGOE+0RsFkNdqiFB 1GtRCpsiY6/J80+7PBtLgrqBZVdqDbCMW4rd2Tl9iGuSHzHLVt/4Xr08iXpAWZtkpf TQZiVI9q2lp8mo7SQIcwTpPqQmJFJam1/+DRBoowwr+qPUBg3du9gCVIgHW2VzVdgT q78qXzvO9J17EhgrJhOEPZSBBkl0/3J1xXcN0Ogo4Q+2z3PVcPDkiLsu//XeDwi7XV YviHsQ+xkyrpQPS0GoyjeD5mRQ22q5hHYGIc/pBXrFfnb2Yu1707fi3oBS/nszRsnK wBrb3sSNQeapA== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Exhaust_manifold_paint?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Let me chime in on that ad. I've used most of the Hirsch range over the years, and his stuff rocks. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Frank Magnusson" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Exhaust manifold paint Date: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:33 pm Cliff, I've used Bill Hirsch's high temp exhaust manifold paint. I've had it on several different cars for many years. Still looks new, no chipping or flaking. He advertises in Hemings, but probably can also find him on the Internet. Great on the whole exhaust system and intake manifold as well. frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 21:00:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010304044D for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:00:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506F40382 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:00:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CF7A9701157AA for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 56D64E000086 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:59:59 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com (64.12.183.159) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 04 Sep 2013 22:59:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 22:59:59 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378349999; bh=dfLjJ6DCEKa80DQGyFevN9EF8fN/B+Vkz3Qzrw7yaac=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=szVcP83zFCZ7rBFfBNAQlxRknUU5JrEfJS43/lIZoG4k2838psz+/doP3SnzTNwPp Vyv1ymWH2lX8ZwLk8GJIeYU2u6aDh1fm6c77awWLDGnrTvWny/C5CAJFw4xjteks5S R2ijvs2uUMLXJvtLLtNXbemYRL6wIw5Qn3Zk4LX4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a5227f3af0cb8 Subject: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Since it looks like the tonneau I have is as good as I will get without having a custom one made I set about to install the lift the dot snaps. I was able to stretch it enough to make the fore/aft distance but it is all I can do to stretch it that far. I've yet to install the snaps along the sides so it is yet to be seen it I can make that work. I predict that in two years time it will not fit at all. Not happy. Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 01:23:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7394940538 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEECD40512 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:16:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130905043154252.VOEW23564@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:31:54 +0000 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=3pv8mXvrF0cA:10 a=dzaNO6zObmRybYzcmvsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=BcGSP_kDlooA:10 a=EUlm4J6RJ8cA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1D/E8-15218-BF808225; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:30:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:30:48 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6p5BknW5f6P20HTYKr2AoOCEy1OAADHjUw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I predict that in two years time it will not fit at all. > > Not happy. Welcome to the club! Might I suggest that you contact your vendor, and express your displeasure? Maybe if enough of us do that, they might update their patterns. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 01:24:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A654A429A6 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1621B40512 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.53]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130905045018626.PSR29869@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:50:18 +0000 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=GKd7sLSzx80A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kU3_2Ckt8DgA:10 a=N7shjC-6AVHcEo6TESoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=99qIoP4XPeMA:10 a=DBRQTZxeSHwA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 55/12-11231-C4D08225; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:49:17 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:49:13 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6p2hDKzI3C7l+TR7COkxYRHmBadAAGSM2A Subject: Re: [TR] A little travelin' music, Sam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > you'll > just have to thumb your twiddles until I get back. But in private, please !!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 05:46:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B37425C3 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A204053C for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BCA4E7010B0E6; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8B762E000082; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:39:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:39:37 -0400 (EDT) To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378381177; bh=L+E14raJDAd3ngzPWM2qW8V+b6EkBhThjMpJoNZ8Ofs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=af2EpUK+sHG8Q9jEcDh/Cqvy6tkEYi/3UeeTbnlcHrNyGOBhd1cVimX5Ld7ZKMoL9 qZz5AS0KNw4fou+2N8e5IrdIvWbM9L+tINWCdJyraUFGN6e51hPkXCH9IRBWEh49K8 1iDg9PYFhavk5jjT8dXmSys9QXwJxicukFVYCfeU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290952286d7906ee Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good idea. And the vendor monitors this list. The vendor will have an opportunity to see the tonneau at Triumphest as well. Dave In a message dated 9/5/2013 2:23:09 AM Central Daylight Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: > >I predict that in two years time it will not fit at all. > > > >Not happy. > > Welcome to the club! Might I suggest that you contact your vendor, and > express your displeasure? Maybe if enough of us do that, they might > update > their patterns. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 08:26:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9423842A31 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:26:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3490429DF for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.164] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 14:26:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 14:26:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 14:26:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378391179; bh=GClohpmW/P1Yh36xOSGxgCGIS4fblq1/7v2QeRw4Fmc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=l+kJiFO7KLZuGZNwSBcgyTOdqW6YdozMnYvfYyUjJKFMqUnUGuQe8ib1gY25vCFiuiWYmDB5AyOFSVAOWDz5sOwIz6g1XSWUXlb62vF+eSmcNoBSebzW96+dOhePUX/2a3ih+wqtNKErrL3YioF0LRoZ/eEzIhKnHipfP+7kNOk= N_BCokZy7SGluSBOlvqNV_UFzVmzrLwepxRekSKGyUMyYLMqVVBwUH8WMS0v BsAsAe9g2Wwhlr1020tZjyU8FUGLNXZ1FMVmzyjpXhkwqcDnV0ALeCowYwzH X9fyue4E84a6ff0x6L9fjT9h3HwJxG._8FbV81ScS8WvQDUYXPVsaRA.u8RJ Q8ZwVcUPbYgxDzjahUTFcenURF85jwHBLNgnsreFyT3JXUz49ahKgdNIP5hH 3G5n_OmguPOdIV86wIWLkIgNjjGK.e6PVFPyIz7JToNnvY3MlPVtvA_j4gmR 4H_4ZyciFi4S0D5IaygU3JvMRp_hXrPT_VzLZCRQe6up84rb_opX1IVoSLgm o7EA4U8oEvx6SrJaQ0ZKKK9SCx9v2kJBmmMqaK9nmOuFMPRUy0vgiq13UhET A3xPe_7Ra7iqIQYnd.SQw6s7Iccal4c9IDwmQVaxOukZrmTqOomwuyg5rWMi pg6TZaadKv4ri7Sv3VcvXGwZLM97HBoocKNDbM1aHzmvTer_ztINXHkAC1R3 edfGSeHMueT1Luw7agGxfSAf2ZvCOOMoNmwLuabZHJ5McpqtJyRc7BMma3kL c8HU86SSzCZTgswrWh7akEleLlm32EzBH9iZFAg-- smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Sep 2013 14:26:19 +0000 UTC From: To: "'Dave Massey'" , References: <8D077FB247DF353-1F78-8505@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:26:22 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6p5B+2xBB7XDpvQIOkDJm/tExrgwAXjj7g Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 98 degrees and sunny all week here in west Texas, perfect weather for fitting a tonneau. Just got my hood/top on and adjusted for the first time since getting it last fall. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Massey Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:00 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Since it looks like the tonneau I have is as good as I will get without having a custom one made I set about to install the lift the dot snaps. I was able to stretch it enough to make the fore/aft distance but it is all I can do to stretch it that far. I've yet to install the snaps along the sides so it is yet to be seen it I can make that work. I predict that in two years time it will not fit at all. Not happy. Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 08:53:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BA642A55 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498D2429D4 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ef5so2079909obb.37 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:53:07 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qf0fKQmljBMKhHJteg8OXkfF3zuzVC6llHlUxCH/EqU=; b=kVXTsYNiL7mV3+N3vM+FiY0cBRHRYeROzAGprSLZxni15u1+IsCAGJKqe7MZcuAEvy 9hhH/TOg2VxBmOrfcz2tH7NA8ZuW5LkR6o5r3vkvRIkX4wAUrGcyasYosbBvYOboGw5H x4PgBfskRAlcl1rB1TH65QzaHPFGi8rTcoHtTg1xVObQespVaUu0eik8+Q377smUro6a sTKHf6RdYNmfIZ0Tn9U1o0p2/SFX1034gWq866X6w/+rySGbO9pzrwlspix7r4uciqlp xGJTSa/K514OKgsdXKkroHcWgi2HGHv+av0m4/9hVUAf3U7/W0vSd53Jx/rktIPmMed2 DI5w== m12mr6632689obr.52.1378392787045; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm31158973oep.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:53:04 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8D077FB247DF353-1F78-8505@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/5/13 7:26 AM, wbeech@flash.net wrote: > 98 degrees and sunny all week here in west Texas, perfect weather for > fitting a tonneau. Just got my hood/top on and adjusted for the first time > since getting it last fall. > > The best temperature for setting snap locations is the temperature that you are most likely to erect it. If you are likely to put up the top to protect from cold that is the best temperature to set the snaps. I've seen several cars that had top snaps set on a hot summer day and on cool days were set up with some snaps left unsnapped because they will not reach on cold days. Same with the tonneau. Set the snaps at the average temperature that you are likely to mount the tonneau on your car. Our venders used to supply parts that fit. I purchased my tonneau and soft top in the 1980's and they fit just fine. It is time to remind them that parts should fit our vehicles. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 11:43:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A0D42A4C for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24FD42A49 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0524970131D21 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B7138E00008A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:41:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:41:23 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378402883; bh=uraLWdrFDUYqRniKjte5+EFZ3ncInfrZMdXGpUJQAQc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dH1uP3a7R4a9dLbxFQkDQDYxh2kLedhQRG0Rt3ULIUwHXSXuLkvUHUW+dXQ2ly1ep i35lDvG2yIrwFgt4MG88ZOTv8N4id3wEAvZD0auoRLROshqf7FCwE0XFyaQ1boqX/z G5xgdO2gMIIxU/qtVdsKtVKf5B0DLP3mQjQ/LeN8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5228c2434e3d Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I couldn't agree more. All this "you got to set it in the hot sun before you put it on" stuff just don't fly with me. The top on my TR6 was 20 years old (still new, in the box) when I had it fitted and it still fits great after the nearly 20 years I've had it. I believe that is because by the time the installer put it on it had already lost all of the plasticizer and there was no "stretching to fit." Dave In a message dated 9/5/2013 9:53:13 AM Central Daylight Time, tjwakeman@gmail.com writes: > The best temperature for setting snap locations is the temperature that > you are most likely to erect it. If you are likely to put up the top to > protect from cold that is the best temperature to set the snaps. I've > seen several cars that had top snaps set on a hot summer day and on cool > days were set up with some snaps left unsnapped because they will not > reach on cold days. > > Same with the tonneau. Set the snaps at the average temperature that > you are likely to mount the tonneau on your car. > > Our venders used to supply parts that fit. I purchased my tonneau and > soft top in the 1980's and they fit just fine. It is time to remind > them that parts should fit our vehicles. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 11:59:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E2242A70 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381042A49 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 17:51:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 17:48:18 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.161] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 17:48:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2013 17:48:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 45990 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2013 17:48:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378403298; bh=BrpQQSL39FKpUkRXbk3+9hapax8RJtMkZcX5VZ0375A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2Ddw7Nj2MgewlNToJ6uHDQRtcZGq2Vb4kXgkYeTWSrxLrQ7nPY7MKUZ5NFbv5AD1RMmR/yVy0qvkevaHKvJ49U+6q4i4ZvFz5ROQ+d6NrLx8mEJtVd55rSJpNdhBTr1BaI82tQAz2r/qjPuFUg+LMVMKY2OEpezfuT8RmLQWRyM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2dLndFrTAquxxJrFrQ4xCmnQmRfy4W8vhcuwZ2atc23J2u70WdYkXjAGE3HOAWY79g8SjRnYdU4/qMzNlkDiNYghjQGe4XGzeCjBqYnzOuWEPON396DxWpieaZD5oOBq1vZvpewPYHlDTOba3Hp2j8oVMyYIWy2MXblN9sxQ69g=; 5fit6te1tjNM2Aftb_LIexz8n7j6HU0VQWOIAgBFXQGv1GOgMa9FH_Hn82TW f1FLghyB2zMMIMAfepWgf0v4Ebm3Tf4iusWreKKmmwz5NANBQPLE72Jsdz89 3jTZzIBhTzTSdiHsx1XojoqxzVXRdQvCNantWx3LJkgaPPj6ERVTS9g.gWNS UUjik73Wa4EESOZSRoILY_wdBLY1VVDsJJZLtlXaJwz7aBb8SmloE8SpERlw T2yOVGewRHTgHAn2GBmHsAApII7sdU.S4rGK5AzEOrF8iZUJ76H_S3E97gGf hdE3._e.rGeuKMw7Hbk5Ilx_2PClJVGwtv0U3x8vrhM0ixjcM7lVZnnlyUw. zcpIAc97S5LYbBY18KwyKjtCxz7jJr7btWgw2vJMYLBXvQnUgQi67RcXk2YL nLYo2sxzpJdM106MCkGQ0H7vu7.UNljkkbxNI1Hnf.Ben1i92p_mc8MpdHRT BsbNI9XxNv.ezYXu_raxd.bJvq3BWj6.a_R08Mz4XV2hIDswT2d4cc.DkB6H T8QEh6iwlXRQomdSTjdnb2BPkIne.lcAmkAIyavSuol7225t_Ly4fYgRV654 Abjg- Received: from [98.189.227.232] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 10:48:17 PDT aSBib3VnaHQgYSBOT1MgQU1DTyBmcm9tIHRoZSBpbnRlcm5ldC4KaXRzIHByb2JhYmx5IDMwKyB5ZWFycyBvbGQuCml0IGRpZG4ndCBmaXQgYmFjayBpbiB0aGUgZGF5IGFwcGFyZW50bHkKwqAKRnJhbmsKIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IERhdmUgTWFzc2V5IDxkYXZlMW1hc3NleUBjcy5jb20.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBTZXB0ZW1iZXIgNCwgMjAxMyA3OjU5IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gVFIzIHRvbm5lYWEBMAEBAQE- References: <8D077FB247DF353-1F78-8505@webmail-m168.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Dave Massey , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i bought a NOS AMCO from the internet. its probably 30+ years old. it didn't fit back in the day apparently Frank ________________________________ From: Dave Massey To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 7:59 PM Subject: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Since it looks like the tonneau I have is as good as I will get without having a custom one made I set about to install the lift the dot snaps. I was able to stretch it enough to make the fore/aft distance but it is all I can do to stretch it that far. I've yet to install the snaps along the sides so it is yet to be seen it I can make that work. I predict that in two years time it will not fit at all. Not happy. Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 11:59:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DDE42A50 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A4442A49 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C719970049BA8; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 83540E00008E; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:56:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:56:23 -0400 (EDT) To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378403783; bh=d5xTOJi3MGJc6XvUsOOoaFG6CTEG1hkuipiD+KrFVuc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uUv6seZ/lSvDKV97PDC4s+QR/sNYGaxY96AuB2A3TrIZ4YinG6JqilL+MFcJjmEYZ jvXFegX7w+xhEToB0mK2BmGb9FWrl7GQkWP+b9wsWRmw8it8NpeOl9sgBFeGVqOXiw lsPT6cFdB0byYOZaPj1oQ4wxmb5OMVWJHDI98bwI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5228c5c7037a Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not enough time now but ultimately I will have a custom cover made by a friend of a friend who is in the business of making such covers for boats (usually all custom stuff). Dave In a message dated 9/5/2013 12:51:36 PM Central Daylight Time, yellowtr3@yahoo.com writes: > i bought a NOS AMCO from the internet. > its probably 30+ years old. > it didn't fit back in the day apparently ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 13:48:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B29A42AA0 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:48:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846E742A5A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:47:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id ec20so1995553lab.14 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:47:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PAy38WDgDZw3LUfcM5h1d7v947Ml9Hfmw9ginCVlz9k=; b=VJ0EAgiIEDAu2l7Vfa1+cICFs7ipqkowNTWmcLzs7jmYV/Rjvs9NK4pKJBREteCAT8 mFZalcFxyYTqGQU8B1yPi7+n3n8dt28UYoUFxxmBZkmeyJCuxHlumXsQ2prYJ1+282d1 4tGMlwMHxyDxyXuUPOxnb2HbA2/jEiRuvUm8+fSsdVxi6NcpcHnn7RCj4o85Nbby226K sDpXSpYkltv76L2OQEQiz2MkAMvyIO/YGHJudG24k+TsmGgT2YXCtzwmXkCZGjHsnCpr NKQQYui0wh57qfCfHYYD2lpl9gFOjS8rtTAX/vHB2al3B2XJE6YMLWLSCCT/JeyxgTYo /l7A== la9mr8783442lab.3.1378410472424; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:47:32 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a Robbins tonneau from topsonline (nfi) for my tr2. I did not expect it to fit as my tr2 is old enough that the snaps are on the body near the dash vs on the dash coping. I heated it up and put it on over several heating sessions - usually only 2 to 4 snaps at a time until all the snaps were on. I was generally worried the entire time about breaking one of the studs or snaps as they are scarce these days. I leave the tonneau on the car most of the time - but did not take the time to button it up last time I pulled it in the garage (3 to 4 weeks ago) - I snapped it up last night with no problems - but it is still pretty warm here in North Carolina. Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 15:19:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86E342AF2 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F4D42AA1 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY173-DS4 ([65.54.190.59]) by bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:18:05 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:17:57 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6qfWRWySE/FlQWQDa+d4Axmwavyw== Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[695587D0:01CEAA7D] Subject: [TR] TR6 Cylinder Head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It would appear that I have some bad seals/guides on my recently acquired and running tr6 project. Looks like I'm going to have to pull the head and have some work done. Are there any relatively low cost performance enhancements I should look into while I have it off? 3 angle valve grind? Oversize valves? Slight decking of the head to raise CR? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 16:41:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC72142AAB for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:41:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C2E42A54 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 54F55700F871D for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:40:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 31517E000082 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:40:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:40:58 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378420858; bh=Tsn/aizpBCp6WZpicxcUaZHu/sd77PHKENSaSaU7PWo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kA+Sp/sfvVZSDxY0o+zi0Vip9HTrDuyv2tlNKHv1W5lK6r2X54TY1rRLRknu18vfD Mwt50keUQrbdstzYso1tKAZoGg2ZCIUooi5vU/lrsZIu0Dpud0gJgg0WPvzLFsD35A yFmkdaJP9XxQqYdnnOzRunh6j8jG4MVSNDxJi0JE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5229087a2510 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That sounds like how I'm going about it but I am using the sun to warm it and when I start late in the afternoon I run out of sunlight (I got trees). I still have two weekends free to finish it up. That and get the trailer ready. Dave In a message dated 9/5/2013 2:48:05 PM Central Daylight Time, ccsimonsen@gmail.com writes: > I heated it up and put it on over several heating sessions - usually only > 2 > to 4 snaps at a time until all the snaps were on. I was generally worried > the entire time about breaking one of the studs or snaps as they are > scarce > these days. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 16:49:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF1142B29 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA6342A54 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:44:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E88847000008E for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C4BB3E000086 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:44:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:44:24 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378421064; bh=6K6t3D77hjukItd3yyCjXQW7iqfBG5KH7a09t8hfuj4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zDvNq44ZQmejZaq2Y+BRBiBLHr5q2TYSIsQjs9nubF3sdamvcOU5/GB3oMh9ArqVd hRB4abjlEGZ8kitvkJnol6CI0z048rLq9bI+/HvFsOkPgTTfvckp4DCM1lsKXyHX+4 Y29rv1LeiYehH+csPL/RPbVUIXpqP3UtgtJDu6x4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a522909486b22 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone who makes custom boat covers should be able to do these in his sleep. Cheers Dave In a message dated 9/5/2013 4:56:36 PM Central Daylight Time, wbeech@flash.net writes: > My old AMCO fit very well, it was just real nasty, Jeff Zorn sent it off > and had it duplicated for me. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 20:00:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA18429F1 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AAF403F1 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2013 01:59:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2013 01:59:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2013 01:59:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378432796; bh=UXCqtBCbEPTHqL7ZeoKXs3yQediN5bliabU03NJQrJA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=ryv/lsfn8DducclZO27YhKhTSgNWMSrXqudneJNzCV5DSjLt40ae45yDhOQwA1sodI20VYES3N4bWjNnDNygkjet8gtadq5A0FK66Q/amSeYVg/a+HesV2C+vct6Qr6YtHXlFRFtH1LsHQEJzkCCElg+oomUR7PfJEHmhBjN7rg= JXPnEuvWZdIz4ZE52uyZwha7ivK0KzAICCqN8bi.IBuz.JAwasuLCjnO1yf. rV2qw5NG1zVsp5vJ8RjFrTFP.G.ngBZjT9cVKRRMNvIXKtqbJajsTOxmHvSs E1juCf2R7foBc8AeWx2jkan0uUP_o.cJov_TjNgwdxZwlf4cQyWaXsk4OWdL gXXTf9nnvn5x1ap3dy6uh1HN5pqvnRmDMnsOjrc9990L47e54sA8_UsmWch_ wBGUpveSgkPofVBorUKmx_k63eLDQImxKe6QBPHSyb.dxaFme6Ctv_cq.Mu2 mwVClqxYLSsJNW.E8IVr6p3pS_d72zLZJv0CqDZN9rIIiGrwGDJaLrSORjEy GCIHeoKf4fesunKdJ12yWg36hHHNn2n1x982nv71jwE4qoDFlGyNvGCpbk.t b80H2klJ8MnnHnToUZEk0RwyUz6_UBKMEHs9C_ZEQ2YNJoWor0_rXv.8Dc5q e2Xie8mzJWvFO13B6aNOVB.wqczHGC5U3a0nOV1ZT51v.ynskh.CkgBTBS5k UnLG08DLGwKJXIeweVCS4B1erZzA- smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Sep 2013 18:59:56 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:00:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6qnj1HCh4/Edv7RUWSI4SlxP8R+QABmFhw Subject: [TR] New No-Name Dipper Switch may burn your wiring harness Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Received this from the MG list, pertains to all LBCs. Bill -------- Original Message -------- Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:12:50 -0500 From: Barney Gaylord To: mgs@autox.team.net, britishcars@autox.team.net Heads up to a faulty new part with possible serious consequences. Some new no-name dipper switches have an internal fault that will short power to ground when depressed. If held in the depressed position it could burn up your main wiring harness. The part is widely used on many brands of British cars, especially in the 1950 to 1965 production period. The switch is patterned after Lucas type FS22. but it is not a Lucas part. It is a replacement part for BMC part number 1G2007. Known bad parts came from Moss Motors (171-900) and Scarborough Faire. They have been notified. Moss has placed a stop on sales of the part pending investigation. If you have one of these no-name dipper switches, use a continuity tester or ohm meter to check resistance from the center input terminal to the housing when the switch is depressed. Check it through at least two switching cycles, because it only shorts on every second cycle of the switch. If you have one of the switches that has this ground fault, please let me know, and also the name of the supplier if possible. For pictures and more information see here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/ft063.htm Best cautious regards, Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/shop@justbrits.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 21:02:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4023642B5D for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:02:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D077342B1B for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0alW38Nc698A:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=BHkjAo_XUSOjQmN-OF0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=x4sruY/Yx9YPmbwx6u3qtg==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.173] ([10.128.132.173:49418] helo=hrndva-web22-z02) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 82/3F-28548-7A549225; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 03:02:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 3:01:59 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Jonas Payne Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Cylinder Head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You would get the most bang for the buck from shaving the head 9.5/1 is usually considered a safe CR for a street car. A machine shop guy told me a three angle grind was better for performance, but I always thought it was more for longevity, will defer to other's opinions on that. Have definitely read that oversize valves are of no benefit unless you are going racing or very major street mods. I would also smooth out the sharp edges in the combustion chamber and match intake and exhaust ports and manifolds. The Kastner competition prep manual goes into detail on this and can be had on eBay and the various sources for $10 bucks or so. Greg ---- Jonas Payne wrote: > It would appear that I have some bad seals/guides on my recently acquired > and running tr6 project. > > Looks like I'm going to have to pull the head and have some work done. Are > there any relatively low cost performance enhancements I should look into > while I have it off? > > 3 angle valve grind? Oversize valves? Slight decking of the head to raise > CR? > > Jonas Payne > PBR Consulting > 702-882-6711 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 21:03:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12C42BBA for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D872842B94 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:02:48 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0alW38Nc698A:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=BHkjAo_XUSOjQmN-OF0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=x4sruY/Yx9YPmbwx6u3qtg==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.173] ([10.128.132.173:49421] helo=hrndva-web22-z02) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 2C/95-27973-7D549225; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 03:02:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 3:02:47 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Jonas Payne Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Cylinder Head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You would get the most bang for the buck from shaving the head 9.5/1 is usually considered a safe CR for a street car. A machine shop guy told me a three angle grind was better for performance, but I always thought it was more for longevity, will defer to other's opinions on that. Have definitely read that oversize valves are of no benefit unless you are going racing or very major street mods. I would also smooth out the sharp edges in the combustion chamber and match intake and exhaust ports and manifolds. The Kastner competition prep manual goes into detail on this and can be had on eBay and the various sources for $10 bucks or so. Greg ---- Jonas Payne wrote: > It would appear that I have some bad seals/guides on my recently acquired > and running tr6 project. > > Looks like I'm going to have to pull the head and have some work done. Are > there any relatively low cost performance enhancements I should look into > while I have it off? > > 3 angle valve grind? Oversize valves? Slight decking of the head to raise > CR? > > Jonas Payne > PBR Consulting > 702-882-6711 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 23:20:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06442A37 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 23:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3A642BA0 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 23:19:51 -0600 (MDT) a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:17 a=6htYASBar5sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=3pv8mXvrF0cA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=t1e4l49l-VuA3HOp6v4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:117 Received: from [108.167.8.138] ([108.167.8.138:64720] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 33/9F-26119-6F569225; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:19:50 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , References: <40d9b.790ba3ba.3f5a6348@cs.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 00:19:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Although my tonneau is for a TR250, the material is used, I fit mine a little over two year ago, did it in the warm sun, had to stretch it a little and the lift the dots on the front are about as far forward as they can be. Although two years is not a lot of time mine seems to have gotten a little looser over time, is not bad at all to put on now, used to need a little muscle and sun to make it work, less beef and heat is required these days. I have been known to push down on the middle when it is all buttoned up and sitting out in the sun on a hot day, I think I have stretched it out a bit by doing that. Of course if I were a pessimist I would buy into the old adage, you have two choices, "fit it a bit loose, ensuring it will stretch, or fit it a bit tight, ensuring it will shrink". Greg Lemon -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 5:44 PM To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited > Anyone who makes custom boat covers should be able to do these in his > sleep. > > Cheers > > Dave > > > > In a message dated 9/5/2013 4:56:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > wbeech@flash.net writes: >> My old AMCO fit very well, it was just real nasty, Jeff Zorn sent it off >> and had it duplicated for me. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 05:33:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A867A403D4 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:33:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6814006F for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 88BEF70036226 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 377AAE000086 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:33:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:33:28 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378467209; bh=iDBV0LCj3QQf8aVktFLQzNdQsbRzOOnjlLRNIIwtnZ8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RlT3H/65NHbJnXH6YYJNw/3mMuRXQwYJnmOWKQi9tmCw0DBZ9orkRvabuyUXvixih 44iBln2ocGhxoR6Iw4epaKW6DlH/aIgxLvCSWJFu76QP66Z19j3irHGxrMLDgMNKK9 72K6AR2u0v7mUpRkWbsHMKlh+m7LVzp0V1Xwp308= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca5229bd893bcb Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 tonneaau revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think there was a Mr. Murphy who commented on this. ;-) In a message dated 9/6/2013 12:19:51 AM Central Daylight Time, glemon@neb.rr.com writes: > Of course if I were a pessimist I would buy into the old adage, you have > two > choices, "fit it a bit loose, ensuring it will stretch, or fit it a bit > tight, ensuring it will shrink". ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 05:38:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28DE40687 for ; 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On the non-US TR's, as well as the 2000 and 2500 saloons (with or without fuel injection) further development took place on the gas-flowing and valve diameters. The outcome - found on cylinder heads stamped 219015* and 219016* - was that reducing the exhaust valve diameter from 32mm to 30mm gave greatly improved breathing. The revised inlet tracts also created better air/fuel mix and vastly improved 'quench' to the extent that many on this side of the pond have been using this head in preference to earlier versions. I've got a sneaky feeling that while the two heads weren't fitted to TR's they did appear on US GT6. I've got all the data I could scrounge on a spreadsheet if anyone's interested. Jonmac NB * You'll find these numbers stamped (NOT cast) on a flat plinth under the valve gear between cylinders 2 and 3. From: "glemon@neb.rr.com" >To: triumphs@autox.team.net; Jonas Payne >Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013, 4:01 >Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Cylinder Head > > >You would get the most bang for the buck from shaving the head 9.5/1 is usually considered a safe CR for a street car. A machine shop guy told me a three angle grind was better for performance, but I always thought it was more for longevity, will defer to other's opinions on that. > >Have definitely read that oversize valves are of no benefit unless you are going racing or very major street mods. > >I would also smooth out the sharp edges in the combustion chamber and match intake and exhaust ports and manifolds. The Kastner competition prep manual goes into detail on this and can be had on eBay and the various sources for $10 bucks or so. > >Greg > >---- Jonas Payne wrote: >> It would appear that I have some bad seals/guides on my recently acquired >> and running tr6 project. >> >> Looks like I'm going to have to pull the head and have some work done. Are >> there any relatively low cost performance enhancements I should look into >> while I have it off? >> >> 3 angle valve grind? Oversize valves? Slight decking of the head to raise >> CR? >> >> Jonas Payne >> PBR Consulting >> 702-882-6711 >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 11:43:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCF94044D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:43:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD0940435 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0AC04701157AA for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dna005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dna005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.210.209]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D5443E000086 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:42:22 -0400 (EDT) From: FordneyNJ@aol.com Full-name: FordneyNJ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:42:22 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378489342; bh=XrwFWJsnRDS58MlpmHS15N/+vL6oGVK607KmHLXQ4NY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sZ2Rv7AkVOoin88k3f8tlWp8hncHdLTTZVtjwLFg941oZxIJ1wcrqaK6EBKbCUbIA 7BkX929v1cOuj20MeSijcl0AkS4K/b6Gua0YjeYXgVgqJKxsSkqdvqgl1sYc4M5ZKJ 8VKB7mY9+OVlHDV2VzXGUJKP6Q5SKg7cPQe36Cw4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b522a13fe290f Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 319 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:29:12 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" Well, Guess what.. I managed to close and lock my hood and can't open it now. The good news (if there is any) is that I had installed a backup mechanical linkage in case the cable release quit. A little history first.. 1. I had completely taken apart the spring assembly that bolts to the underside of the hood so I am not sure how to adjust that and it is more than likely not set correctly. 2. I have new rubber bumpers in the rear of the hood and had adjusted them so the hood sits flat and level alongside the cowl. Thoughts.. I am considering attaching a pair of vise grips to the vertical stainless steel wire which is the "handle" for the mechanical release and tapping on the vise grip (lightly) while someone pushes down on the hood over the latch. If that doesn't work, I could remove the headlight buckets, remove the bolts on the hinges and fish a long rod of some kind up to the latch and trip the release that way. Once I get the hood open again, does anyone have any suggestions on steps to adjust the hood latch so I can open and close it without stressing out? Thanks, Dave Connitt Dave, once you get the bonnet open, here is how I set it. Remove the latch from the bonnet. Algin the bonnet. Insert he latch into the catch. Place some double stick tape on the flat on top of the latch. Lower the bonnet and then release the catch.. Open the bonnet and the latch should be adhered to the bonnet. Mark the location, remove the latch, remove the tape and install the latch. All you have left will be to adjust the depth of the latch. Rodney Ford, Positive Earth Drivers Club Brick, NJ Triumph TR4A IRS Triumph TR 7 Spider ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 14:31:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276E840449 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA32940435 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BD37A7004991D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqb002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.212.197]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6C3CFE00008D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:30:41 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Alan Myers Received: from 74.95.11.209 by webmail-d221.sysops.aol.com (149.174.160.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 06 Sep 2013 16:30:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:30:41 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378499441; bh=0KyWh3bLF7H0gdIdH4Rl1Rf1ylQeIsx8jzqm+56fh6o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QAyv1gzV6c+5mCr/Z9kXs54TOqWAKTNlLjiKpuuCWoV2gvVPg4VA8eIZm7NVb9Xt2 gZqpKZIeJD9XqCRAR+IpNtOhFBBnExS0Sz2nHkfwRznLZSatW+0lrIOGEyVYjybQvx 2KzmmT+bd7Yxhylmop7nvm7VcAlhXbb3JUrjTScY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c522a3b710af8 Subject: [TR] TR3 in a Denver area estate sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Heads up! There's a fairly decent but unrestored looking 1960 TR3 in an estate auction this weekend, in the Denver area (Arvada). Supposedly it's in running condition. Here's a link to info about the estate sale: http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/497064.aspx There are a few photos of the TR3 at that link, too (scroll down). Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of or financial interest in this sale. Heck, if I were able to follow up on it myself, I sure wouldn't be posting info about it here! Cheers! Alan Myers San Jose, Calif. amfoto1@aol.com 1962 TR4 CT17602L: www.triumphowners.com/640 Triumphest 2009 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amfoto1/collections/72157626673107235/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 7 07:51:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD6440532 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plwbeout06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtp06-05-2.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [97.74.135.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A2540511 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:48:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost ([97.74.135.117]) by p3plwbeout06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with bizsmtp id NDop1m0012Y8iQZ01Doppk; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 06:48:49 -0700 Received: (qmail 27256 invoked by uid 99); 7 Sep 2013 13:48:49 -0000 To: amfoto1@aol.com From: dave@ranteer.com Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 06:48:49 -0700 User-Agent: MailAPI 24838 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 in a Denver area estate sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I inquired. Its no longer for sale -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TR] TR3 in a Denver area estate sale From: Alan Myers Date: Sep 6, 2013 3:31 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net CC: Heads up! There's a fairly decent but unrestored looking 1960 TR3 in an estate auction this weekend, in the Denver area (Arvada). Supposedly it's in running condition. Here's a link to info about the estate sale: http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/497064.aspx There are a few photos of the TR3 at that link, too (scroll down). Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of or financial interest in this sale. Heck, if I were able to follow up on it myself, I sure wouldn't be posting info about it here! Cheers! Alan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 09:05:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BF740410 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 09:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F2E40410 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 09:03:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 15:03:15 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.154] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 15:03:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 15:03:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2050 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Sep 2013 15:03:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378652595; bh=sBr0/EHMUbWkmB/gKNbPn0Knc/ClcYctlx+544Fi1y4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=koGfNOENQVL9MVOI/5HHjbA8Q4aNl6flSI7YGCOmN8c/gxsNNe38rKKaMhO7wGqgoIg+UOPDg7OgUn8BhMlGLO+CLRctX+bxyvaa+XH9Ju9WKAoj+y3i+/wnG0tZ+0JWEH6CID6sE4pSUhecJavNoMt1DO9z3Hfedm3gRC2T6zg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c1m+egsQcXzz9xxqfbhp8xSXkzMKBvjDRAVPJUqXKtqYAQGA3ghhpl2OJgVOjBCFaDFytndVeFNwGJzccVGDabapf3BQzH+FpJpFMm4JuLIYZHvh/NVAjGWazL+T1WypEK2s70fBn3tm34cyNZEJDyQ8Bk8IoR9CG/WdRBGXaC4=; v4d2vRTcdiiH20zmdas4mF68wsR6R_YmouqjTuWCjCWjj3FixYWr0S2BHwT2 QcJYSlFaQ3nSqAOZJWNXDRkCdbQR5skGkeBp7.CrUyvK0HvZvL5JygjPtjCy F_b5XyBTnJRhe.MzrP7wWkxkHXS.1XUsfGXwju1WFmPoFi2ZjwrUSe.1_KlM pJ92FykCCqb10Qmxe6tDAG36lO9Hulpl930ICHvpERfspXP65hIhnjVSccYS KdEee9wjM77GqrvDrGwbM6h7rzjpkZoxq1ygtmWaQSIXDZDwETyjUfMocC3M Fud1U2ZI_GxKDJwBg4_1vnHjz9IVxuHMqZ1_kFcJK_A3IDMfIVUvaVfOm4i4 5aogyP9x5NHOtSfzjQOVSZY_vIRj90gB.ehpW0nl9cxTy98MNgeiVHucYc2q IwJH592oDEG3bzb7VGkwIJIFZY_vvPwgdnI3S6p_ntqgLVe2UBfhCUTTd0o5 xIRur1YPphNRoluijULh01VDoO0.MC_T5WJRM4JeJNqJZF6nuXHw- Received: from [107.195.25.150] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 08:03:14 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGhhdmUgYSBUUkYgVFI2IGZlbmRlciBmaXR0aW5nIGhhcmR3YXJlIGtpdC4gSW4gdGhlIGtpdCB0aGV5IGhhZCBmaWJlciB3YXNoZXJzLiBXaGVuIEkgdG9vayB0aGUgb2xkIGZlbmRlciBvZmYgKGFuZCBJIGFtIHByZXR0eSBzdXJlIHRoYXQgaXQgaGFkIG5ldmVyIGJlZW4gb2ZmIGJlZm9yZS4uLikgdGhlcmUgd2VyZSBubyBmaWJlciB3YXNoZXJzIGluIHRoZSBpbnN0YWxsYXRpb24uIEkgbG9va2VkIGluIHRoZSBNb3NzIGNhdGFsb2cgdG8gc2VlIGlmIGl0IHNob3dlZCBhIGZpYmVyIHdhc2gBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Fender Hardware Kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a TRF TR6 fender fitting hardware kit. In the kit they had fiber washers. When I took the old fender off (and I am pretty sure that it had never been off before...) there were no fiber washers in the installation. I looked in the Moss catalog to see if it showed a fiber washer, but they didn't. Do the fiber washers go between the inner and outer fenders or under the steel washers under the fender fitting nuts? Are they necessary or advisable? I am tempted to not use them. Bill Brewer Tehachapi, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 12:12:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EA4041E for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm48.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm48.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0A5403DE for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm48.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 18:12:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.12] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 18:12:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2013 18:12:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378663934; bh=20BetuXO/WsVk6aKGuZTq3eBPuZjLWlRyda3N9mGik8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=VmPcFu84aFKV10zHsWtvc3tmFHUVAasrosAzrV0nH0qYK2qEPGWSiV9WEo/78TpKmz3wyNmY0mREo+uRoDqidX1E5tSHumH5Fe2gQouBBZyvPNDoxv3TbFXlYLxYza0IzezwHKCb15DlPU0gk2sL7ITvlhct2LjTr1FGdqPXWJ8= 5J4K3LxeiTqy7NK0Xtk6dbM7lhY1MZoX2hWSmtzfZvVbE3dGg7dJciyQgsBg FjnFkgCy8VQUHNaTt4.7yjTe1JiT0ggp64cuICqoYQG7cYyDahwNdDhEKmuQ y6howm9ydrqd5H0JK45SfggQeUEVzpd.46yllht49SijSjnfY0GgizQDL8L9 GN4PahC13GiOQVvrNC3hRlYde3Sgs3yHphhXwxNXRRwN5ydLJP9mUrW_TE_Y cG.3QxvNqz8BkKd5KMyX_WJ1WT6WtBO_eyBSpkhDrs1kkPERWckwVsQymhQa syn9n2ooL.RquqhBqX193FeK68EBaRVrnpAweYdoNDp4WJOZfaVnBEDoxc2t 3huuC5MnNGjXn5M3S.iVjJOOgbyuNOJkR9D3yS_gE6Sp7QPTXQvA9FIWRfsW xv6hh.LTU4f6duIhs0OFudiwroRwh0HuEtTib4bffhXVcP7X_5UzHYsw9LKt D.flCcXwk0KV2lh.LtaFnJMKOeTBNy51_.FDDU2amgTN2zG3r9kaZqm1_ ) by smtp112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2013 11:12:14 -0700 PDT References: From: JT Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:12:11 -0700 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 323 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have done a few never saw fiber washers. JT Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:00 AM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to > triumphs@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > triumphs-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > triumphs-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. TR6 Fender Hardware Kit (William Brewer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: William Brewer > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] TR6 Fender Hardware Kit > Message-ID: > <1378652594.1181.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a TRF TR6 fender fitting hardware kit. In the kit they had fiber > washers. When I took the old fender off (and I am pretty sure that it had > never been off before...) there were no fiber washers in the installation. I > looked in the Moss catalog to see if it showed a fiber washer, but they > didn't. Do the fiber washers go between the inner and outer fenders or under > the steel washers under the fender fitting nuts? Are they necessary or > advisable? I am tempted to not use them. > > Bill Brewer > Tehachapi, > CA > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Triumphs mailing list > Triumphs@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > > > End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 323 > **************************************** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 13:33:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6A40404 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 13:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1567C403FC for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 13:33:02 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=asQN1DoZkJsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=F5hLbljpmvMA:10 a=0kuXYZOGAAAA:8 a=Wr_I9wIfAAAA:8 a=t5cv2RfOVRg7A7L8cckA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_XoRv-o-DxwA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EB/63-21526-CE0DC225; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:33:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:33:01 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6spNnbmZ8Jx/nsRmOBw4an5+iqbAAJQPFg Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Fender Hardware Kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I have a TRF TR6 fender fitting hardware kit. In the kit > they had fiber > washers. When I took the old fender off (and I am pretty sure > that it had > never been off before...) there were no fiber washers in the > installation. Perhaps it's the same deal as the flat washers in the rear drip rail for a TR3. The SPC lists them, but the factory apparently did not install them. Somewhere, I've read an explanation from Charles to the effect that they include them in the kit because they are listed in the SPC. My TR6 SPC does list "washer, everseal", which I assume are the fiber washers. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 17:12:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4EB4040C for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 17:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F1540404 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 17:10:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id c14so2892904vea.38 for ; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 16:10:41 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=D+On7dWAGjdtBMatYQs9Zzq051rCRg7W5quB3HWmWbM=; b=lUhVRmQ+SGw3iawP5rbOLco7KKn4/lypVZgPOIaB7qIgf4JaP8BIsylrIiRvrMNHx6 j92nVjfjScgzAZAVJzOOPx4jUHbR9z8TwdsJ3KzWgSydyiTPIXI014jfRf/zRoPNbOEb ErSZYpQ9uFUoEJufUoif4dZvijohdG0aBQPlDDGW3NfFFzjvKLMGGVo1EW1FL6bHqSSn GMUyuDOnarcRodIvxRMsG90/EKB3bc/ZS5CFfIADt1GLCR25PznUxL4fcqehkPVnW8Bt 8WVHucGlJYgw3qmBikfM1E7WoqAlrEFhP2H0EZacZh4ZIIxVm/u7R9ILCFUqsARuTw6k iuYg== h5mr14560914vcu.0.1378681841195; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 16:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.10 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 16:10:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378652594.1181.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:10:41 -0400 From: alan salvatore To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Fender Hardware Kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Use them, They go under the steel washer. Al On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM, William Brewer wrote: > I have a TRF TR6 fender fitting hardware kit. In the kit they had > fiber > washers. When I took the old fender off (and I am pretty sure that it had > never been off before...) there were no fiber washers in the installation. > I > looked in the Moss catalog to see if it showed a fiber washer, but they > didn't. Do the fiber washers go between the inner and outer fenders or > under > the steel washers under the fender fitting nuts? Are they necessary or > advisable? I am tempted to not use them. > > Bill Brewer > Tehachapi, > CA > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 19:08:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278BD40401 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A5440401 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSU00ICS34KN520@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:07:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "''Triumphs''" Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 21:07:19 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6s9/4xMh/jxU/AQO2fsyxXst7srw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] transmission o/d & reverse switches. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net does anyone know the size/type of thread on the tranny switches. I think they are 5/8-18 (fine thread) but not sure. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 20:03:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4C040437 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 20:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D29440401 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 20:02:44 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=2aILZt_44U4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=5ziyteIm0RIA:10 a=ySauvXiBaMkqz54JY0kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Mu6kN3araq8A:10 a=ojc5aSRRkDAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A2/F6-21526-34C2D225; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:02:43 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "''Triumphs''" Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 19:02:44 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6s9/4xMh/jxU/AQO2fsyxXst7srwABnTEQ Subject: Re: [TR] transmission o/d & reverse switches. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > does anyone know the size/type of thread on the tranny > switches. I think > they are 5/8-18 (fine thread) but not sure. I was curious myself, so I just checked one. M16x2. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 8 21:19:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176440434 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 21:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.116]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FC440401 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 21:19:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.17] helo=mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VIs0E-0001km-AL for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:19:02 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VIs0D-0001Rj-Up; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:19:02 -0400 Received: from webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.1]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id NrK11m01C01NXgy01rK1CN; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:19:01 -0400 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=2aILZt_44U4A:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=5ziyteIm0RIA:10 a=DAPAvuAwZyIT4SoG_icA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ZiIdwDhx3RwA:10 a=GRQGoI26j4cA:10 a=Gw14LWMJN2Ai2xpvMnFLiA==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VIs05-0007I1-Lj; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:18:53 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:18:53 -0400 References: <000001ceacf8$eee00a10$cca01e30$@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:18:53 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: ''Triumphs'' Subject: Re: [TR] transmission o/d & reverse switches. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall is correct. They are Metric, M16 x 2.0 Greg G. Osseo, MN > does anyone know the size/type of thread on the tranny switches. I think > they are 5/8-18 (fine thread) but not sure. > > Thanks > > > > Carl > > 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 08:02:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228B840515 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBF640423 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 08:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.210.69.7]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id P21l1m00V09QtRS0121m3m; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 07:01:50 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:01:39 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6tZQRDi8XzfdHnRKi0PTwI1X7RXw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Lou Metelko Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to bomb the list but I have lost Lou's contact information. Lou - can you contact me off-list ? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 14:50:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9104053E for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:50:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5667E4051F for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj1so8145932pad.14 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+WYxUjaJHdJyYS4bTThqWJbs7+vbjH/3uDtH6ODWVso=; b=T1BhKsIU0PlUi8Ko8KzBU9vOSKNKBKI2KL9UxJLeEOplS450HTAaxO/0g7KYZeZEbv NKM4N/vpZ40Zre95IEcZESW7o26enh0QtCtwFFDl6bUAYp89qHFFJm/+mcPYtls2suh/ Oi5Oj1xjzUgiF1bJXQDOTFl1D1VRzYAQZ5CMpQvp2ItvY5vfc3qOPiRTAYCTjEjsGrNG +62U0kKQqNBFNotfm9LXcQfF1riTkrcUq+OZ5M+DpXxHtQoV+a3lliQhnk+1+GzNdDDi LPz9JxYAvhYK5qCNDm0PIDFdbRb6pN0BrL/BuneldpxmWxP0NVfSLVTvUFApDqpqSOM4 ghYQ== yu6mr19806072pac.37.1378838307328; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.101.10 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:38:27 -0400 From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] 69 Spit - Detroit salvage yard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just a heads up to any Spitfire owners in the MetroDetroit (or Windsor) area - Parts Galore on West Warren in Detroit has a 69 Spit. Engine has the head off and heavy rust in the bores, trans is non-OD (and I took the shift forks out of it for my Spit bodied GT6). Bonnet is bent near the RH latch. The exterior trim is long gone. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 16:13:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345E040536 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:13:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595C840526 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSX001BGKD3APV0@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:12:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "''Triumphs''" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:12:25 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6ucjCRCwsiuLVISAi2KOj0ssgqvw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Could someone please measure the distance from the top of the steering wheel to the windshield (measuring at vertical - not the slant of the wheel). It seems to be much closer than I remember. Also, a second measurement from where that point is on the windshield to the frame (glass distance only). The mounting holes are what they are but I wonder if the stanchions are not true. Thanks. Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 16:25:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E224054E for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:25:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B2E40526 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PaDn1m0071eYJf8A2aQzze; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:24:59 +0000 Received: from OwnerPC ([IPv6:2601:2:2480:62:d58f:caf8:6f49:48c3]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PaQy1m00M3M8gi301aQzQ1; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:24:59 +0000 From: To: , "''Triumphs''" References: <011601ceae72$d51ceaf0$7f56c0d0$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:25:18 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1378851899; bh=1bhkOWff5EO19FQMEtFgl3+BrdGbiPsMTXLHSOoDhbk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=FTvdfkAmE2IdUE47M8BBZK1yXqkZcvdOA+/90OoDqDS8IFiibcxM6t/mGlHbAhvM7 BqONFIV1dgS5cnKllFPJDWKaWpH2h5yH21dR0j5HkyYMc7yVtucDJhVwWXvQDOeBo0 ANbkI7meCRlmoAZUZOlcLMrZPqsl0WuxluOXzIcmkZYLV+27LXR0hoCl/wzX29scfd e4p2x7//TBhLaxt40cNT1hkQeoENPoxn8wIthA9nknCFuGoHwwxZK4c4JTRXXql5Jy j3j5dn+NV5uYrQuAVp08LLWDk/0HtQlzuZ0vlfnG7N8fWq1vKb8tbJp18TgXqR+n/k 8nws6sPdxS5BA== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Carl, I just drove into the garage and got your email. On both my 3's the distance from the top of the steering wheel to the windshield is 3 horizontal inches. Then it's roughly 7.5 to 8 inches from that point to the top edge of the glass ( a little hard to see and I wanted a beer) Hope this helps. Tom -----Original Message----- From: CFM-TR Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:12 PM To: ''Triumphs'' Subject: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Could someone please measure the distance from the top of the steering wheel to the windshield (measuring at vertical - not the slant of the wheel). It seems to be much closer than I remember. Also, a second measurement from where that point is on the windshield to the frame (glass distance only). The mounting holes are what they are but I wonder if the stanchions are not true. Thanks. Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 17:09:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D307B4054C for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B26B40521 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSX003R8MYO0FA1@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:08:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: , "''Triumphs''" References: <011601ceae72$d51ceaf0$7f56c0d0$@verizon.net> <60499F468C394034AAA080BF15123D07@OwnerPC> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:08:34 -0400 Thread-index: AQI5+dnodQ+Rmp+UL2aPooPSKwYAwwLdKvzFmNIYKdA= Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tom. that is what I needed. guess I don't remember correctly... it has only been 12 years. -----Original Message----- From: tfansher@comcast.net [mailto:tfansher@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:25 PM To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net; ''Triumphs'' Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Carl, I just drove into the garage and got your email. On both my 3's the distance from the top of the steering wheel to the windshield is 3 horizontal inches. Then it's roughly 7.5 to 8 inches from that point to the top edge of the glass ( a little hard to see and I wanted a beer) Hope this helps. Tom -----Original Message----- From: CFM-TR Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:12 PM To: ''Triumphs'' Subject: [TR] TR3 - need a measurement Could someone please measure the distance from the top of the steering wheel to the windshield (measuring at vertical - not the slant of the wheel). It seems to be much closer than I remember. Also, a second measurement from where that point is on the windshield to the frame (glass distance only). The mounting holes are what they are but I wonder if the stanchions are not true. Thanks. Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 23:30:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5811140550 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:30:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86C240519 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 05:30:07 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.238] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 05:30:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 05:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 66128 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2013 05:30:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378877406; bh=3YDkIy3oqgt1AMJLKsyxzeFxeVNppssy5XQ44qlm1KE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OlY31SeZi94rB7ZIU+xXzI7eyb5uFv+2UG70g68ir7ZolhcKxzJgvHWLOCbwHb++INi5cCJCmHqr1dJ3ZpOcGmA+s15D1e4xrFxBrGDKgs4ZPg1LJ9V9UQmquRatldNDsQpdKKIA9mosFd6aVJaauuLUZB03iti3n1HGlCAE1kA= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IDDOjPupjjelFMegybErZd5++Rd7XJXpH/MRhzk7RBF7HVh12DOdhsOmHe5NUuAwjp0j+WFZZ0urPUSVspdVkB61jJbo1bSjvORDsLkF7uH2WMnjn0MZFLnae5BLQP8xfWFRnuOupJii+m96RDeSoV1youN2NpFcp2g+ceg5FgM=; GDN_VAFkEBzFrIOWcfBxGI.9b.W.Q9UMOJIAeX_97hTxEm04KFGEFq0hqukU VWnCn4CjKRuISPUHEJTfxCMBHHvIH0ZXNTppok7wfX1W1rVmswMOjWjNHmQr FIxgUcXrR3LChk22tnG68vKzYdOrkJPlPxkx5KIS7NszJ1XscUz4ErXOKWeV x7GXn0Xt8v1.LjZuiBzjWimkdzfG.ybI8mmY9YpuQMRQuH5B1FR6y0zMVjUe iWXtl14h0CuNtHWjObgdxchlBHqy8o4.Xw1q43LUTKGx6Zi_QbTrv3Lp4dqY 8Tmh0m9SO_SGC5woDj0FNlCxYkqD7Zfeuw3qe6y0rAPw03Vrmo46EpAuCyYr gYpKTdo0O2XxbyJE3gk7p8_KysD8WLLWSAH8b2UvIZ0GnBDNk9DMoI.wflry ytwy4DOgwzJkieGJUzNwEGHgjI1LgfKTn0gKUNv1dGweecTZQslojm2Xhvp_ cQRUuiUcRp1SrmQUIWkyPk5k_rZqisY2ScjR17OhLo2iCAf4UuAjjDL7aEA- - Received: from [108.240.211.64] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:30:05 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGhhZCB0byByZW1vdmUgdGhlIGJyYWtlIGFuZCBjbHV0Y2ggbWFzdGVyIGN5bGluZGVycyBhbmQgYnJha2UgcHJvcG9ydGlvbmVyIHN3aXRjaCBvbiBteSAxOTc0IFRSNi4gSSd2ZSByZWJ1aWx0IGEgdmFyaWV0eSBvZiBicmFrZXMgYmVmb3JlIGFuZCBuZXZlciBoYWQgYSBwcm9ibGVtIGJsZWVkaW5nIHRoZSBzeXN0ZW1zLiBUaGlzIHRpbWUgYXJvdW5kLCBJIGhhZCBteSBzb24gcHVtcCB0aGUgcGVkYWwgYWJvdXQgNSB0aW1lcyBhbmQgaG9sZCBhbmQgdGhlbiBJIGNyYWNrIG9wZW4gdGhlIGIBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had to remove the brake and clutch master cylinders and brake proportioner switch on my 1974 TR6. I've rebuilt a variety of brakes before and never had a problem bleeding the systems. This time around, I had my son pump the pedal about 5 times and hold and then I crack open the bleeder and vent out fluid. It worked okay on the clutch slave, but on the brakes I can't get anything to come out. I just wanted to verify that you start at the bleeder farthest from the master cylinder first. I was told that you could hook a Mityvak up to the bleeder and vacuum pump the air out. It doesn't seem to work. How does one use a Mityvac to bleed brakes? Maybe you have to hold the pedal down while you are vacuum evacuating the brake line. Does anyone have any hints? I am going to look for a one man bleeder tomorrow. Gotta get this car back on the road while we still have good weather. TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 01:20:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E65A40042 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7514052D for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:19:59 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=m_LAbMPdcssA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=UTygLJg45HMA:10 a=w8dqFUHUrq5RZ-0FjvEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55013] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A0/E2-21526-D9910325; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:19:58 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 00:20:03 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6usBDSYS6dgQI2TsW22FmacdkiugADYbEg Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I just wanted to verify that you > start at the > bleeder farthest from the master cylinder first. Shouldn't matter, you should be able to get fluid no matter where you bleed first. The book does say to do the farthest cylinder first, but I think it's just to reduce the amount of bleeding required. Sounds like you need to bench-bleed the MC. You might be able to get it going by bleeding at the outlet fittings while on the car. > I was told that you > could hook a Mityvak up to the bleeder and vacuum pump the > air out. It doesn't > seem to work. How does one use a Mityvac to bleed brakes? That's the theory, didn't work for me either. I think it was pulling air past the bleed screw threads, instead of fluid from the MC. BTW there is a reservoir that you are supposed to use between the MityVac and the brakes; the pump doesn't like brake fluif. > I am going to look for a one man bleeder tomorrow. The Dorman "speed bleeder" bleed valves worked a treat for me. But they won't help if you can't get the MC to pump. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 02:45:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D1F40553 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 02:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339BD40535 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 02:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 08:43:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 08:43:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 08:43:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 58890 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2013 08:43:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378889015; bh=5yYTD3OugSqPdLi1q3NlaTPP2YixHGnC+QJuSCOT2sI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y1k3oDC+reqbnXGUJ/DYhkTtvjjW5KL8+6c+llYMiRvX+CFuuODdGnbWe06cHfeSh014COW56+d2Kd2uN+f0RAH5fpoatpW5lAEUkHQ4LfILp98Lw0w4sFCpFePfUADsMNTOPQ9YVlhfo3IUF0Az681pPmdzCMagE2uLB+GRj+A= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xzdD8fUv0gd/2SVg9lDDuUuMrBmydHmF9m4ztzWBc6qR6t6ywOTKL1GpgDq44y1BE6kcfIA8wykLu3XL/eeP5QCxMCmwjO6EaxA3mlSdpef4PRWgfQb96XtdFGSESR4b+LBGR1TLuPujs5geZ3lebARk0BxNXgpwMpcoSZ2t9zA=; DtHRO23F0WvjVrhVyVksI29JVr0RxjbplzYaTDT6Lc0jk3XXvRcgaw3_OQc5 GMsKEf_g2uHF54z0oKltfm14pq0TvmmzMocXlpR_fEl1iKWYrHKFuIUqeflS DIiTFgNyrMHVvQ00aNyB7SUXZJn1wVM7W_TpbiC2mCLhhaSll.PvFH9nsNmF EBv6rRZvAvEhVBs3qrU.3dwjIKP9QQISY.94K1yrzxjc93A_bSRFOnwtZDRm v.4gRI57okzjeKG1ac0MWspIzCrK7IqZmmR.YkeXe1PZ.zI5AKPqb4bzxaTj WW0n26jYb_a4TjeMrNSfoaPbpXIRsh1ZbE1ygqnWvqkQvCCoVgJB7DxK.0ur PPhAs39ismR7aYQk7F58RDWgBsCx5ejLFBsaTin.qDD7z17AqrgHjy54N2g3 mNe9.EZlhxu29KOay0kSjVg8vB.71kpGubU5P3JvAiyV8Y8dEbiw.CU9OG_O dkYKgV2Ni0Oy._Y5j3Uyv6G5I2nJUwvSM5U1culEMsz9Ga331njaS3FzyDB7 NGGGZtIg4L2CBwM9hE0.uSbjg54ofK_0X.SCPiOs6yaQAYwB6SCWPoq2ExYh LUSIatxXwE6Yt1guelLtjTPsF89TmHZMbA5TQoJ_sbVQ- Received: from [87.85.217.51] by web141204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:43:35 PDT SGksCsKgCkkgcmVwbGFjZWQgbXkgTUMgYW5kIGNvdWxkbid0IGdldCB0aGUgc3lzdGVtIGJsZWQgcHJvcGVybHkgdW50aWwgSSBkaXNjb3ZlcmVkIG9uZSBvZiBteSByZWFyIGZsZXhpYmxlcyBoYWQgY29sbGFwc2VkIGludGVybmFsbHkuCsKgCkFub3RoZXIgY2FyIGhhZCB0aGUgc2FtZSBwcm9ibGVtIDIgd2Vla3MgbGF0ZXIuCsKgCk9uIG1pbmUgSSBhbSBzdXJlIHRoZXkgd2VyZSBvcmlnaW5hbHMgdGhlcmVmb3JlIDM2IHllYXJzIG9sZCBhdCB0aGUgdGltZS4KwqAKMiBob3NlcyBmaXhlZCBpdC4KwqAKIAoBMAEBAQE- References: <1378877405.65628.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Cherington To: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I replaced my MC and couldn't get the system bled properly until I discovered one of my rear flexibles had collapsed internally. Another car had the same problem 2 weeks later. On mine I am sure they were originals therefore 36 years old at the time. 2 hoses fixed it. ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013, 8:20 Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 > I just wanted to verify that you > start at the > bleeder farthest from the master cylinder first. Shouldn't matter, you should be able to get fluid no matter where you bleed first. The book does say to do the farthest cylinder first, but I think it's just to reduce the amount of bleeding required. Sounds like you need to bench-bleed the MC. You might be able to get it going by bleeding at the outlet fittings while on the car. > I was told that you > could hook a Mityvak up to the bleeder and vacuum pump the > air out. It doesn't > seem to work. How does one use a Mityvac to bleed brakes? That's the theory, didn't work for me either. I think it was pulling air past the bleed screw threads, instead of fluid from the MC. BTW there is a reservoir that you are supposed to use between the MityVac and the brakes; the pump doesn't like brake fluif. > I am going to look for a one man bleeder tomorrow. The Dorman "speed bleeder" bleed valves worked a treat for me. But they won't help if you can't get the MC to pump. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/a_flying_scotsman@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 05:34:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A3E40553 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 05:34:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A06140515 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 05:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y6so7219396lbh.6 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:30:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=vhTKt2ohhuHm7IMlp40SnaeggKTQlqdiD0Y7Dr3dldM=; b=gA+LtAN8oFxyrDjVpzdJhKG4oTfzXrwBBB/bYLe8GdHRyirF3xFLoENx/RlGmgL0X0 AKlkuIg4QWoiUMq9ngcheRTJH9kdl7YWGHpi5ow74LKDmJDvJ30IN3beRUXsGYhYDCuU Gnsr5tNfCYSHOzHGZvWDndU/xc+vzCP7VSC3Br7fuD00notXsIEESRzT6bi3z6X8ufOf jWZGiaGcvj1Qv5ro3bad7TXpAj2VsiWbYr90vEmsbO4W1u70Uq1csohMCVVVoxXir1j/ obCZsC68ZIRra7D2h/qScR0DAzL9vRwYJAEUc3na1y61yUDa8YdsCbdM7VBsl0/6G8Fg F1yw== w14mr931405lbk.42.1378899001509; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:29:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378877405.65628.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1378889015.57737.YahooMailNeo@web141204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:29:41 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar problem recently. I disconnected a hydraulic hose close to the master cylinder and intended to pump a few times to essentially bench bleed the master. By the time we got around to pumping, gravity had done it's job and brake fluif was flowing all over my new paint.... Quick wipe and no damage. Whew! After that, the fluif fill went normally and got a good firm pedal after two times around, Good luck ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 06:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C2640562 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13734051F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6645570000093 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E2962E000083 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:00:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:00:41 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378900842; bh=JcJb8OfB+zMN8hDbRn81ChR1W6QVEcMnpl7cSqIFwl4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P7P2WS2MrBm1Tm0VSrxp+C7jIu9cMIiqIGeXwS/Wt6geleBuXkctoX+hP0HVDyzZT LzZfUbVFVpWcHEQw7lyRSvn7e9sUAIb2Q5/7GH1mDELRCk664p9n+8yNsJ2f0wtyUc IoXEED+KZ0CB0mapGTN9gqe7fcH9IE5BetqNji7E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d52305b692a25 Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar problem when I replaced my master cylinder earlier this year (first service I have had to do to the brakes since 1996). The master cylinder doesn't work so good with air. In addition to the mightyvac there is a device (I forget the name) that applies a modest amount of air pressure to the reservoir to push fluid through the system. I didn't have one of those but I do have an air gun so I carefully applied a short blast of air to the vent hole in the reservoir cap - taking care to not hold it too tightly to the cap so that the pressure would be self-limiting - which forced enough fluid into the master cylinder to get things working again. Bleeding after that was pretty much textbook. If you have a pressure regulator set it to 5 PSI. Or 3 PSI. Dave In a message dated 9/11/2013 12:30:18 AM Central Daylight Time, wsb1960tr3a@att.net writes: > I was told that you > could hook a Mityvak up to the bleeder and vacuum pump the air out. It > doesn't > seem to work. How does one use a Mityvac to bleed brakes? Maybe you have > to > hold the pedal down while you are vacuum evacuating the brake line. Does > anyone have any hints? > I am going to look for a one man bleeder tomorrow. > Gotta get this car back on the road while we still have good weather. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 06:27:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F258C4054D for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8194051F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:27:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 12:27:33 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.131] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 12:27:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2013 12:27:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6810 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2013 12:27:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378902453; bh=cbZ6p724F5PK41ShCVYPCaOBtgpcgakadhIp8rDZgHM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LNOQ3zmEP693NZ7N7TLN9CXuL/W3e/BzOqyXT6+PN58GJiaWZ8CE0jRNLbEmiFEl0DnzAARlk7YgM5gqTZQa2tbuNaBwZ54WnODcs8d1D+Da6VXFjAnVAgldCcCT5VpUmbHxzygYr2/e/Fo6iIuUGjqMJsdihxeHzYK7hjs7qjk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qZ/urulCiWWecgGEamL1kQ9Y/RR0wf5vzkOh4DDFZ3A4MDUGIfEpTfE+4/jHenuAYsvO0SVyYE3jWoYZFuwHvi/LtxDvMKY0bbCKUPc5Lp1xJ5nP5kTZ/G4VuUjzm5OQVBBNPf894NH7jEU4hwkF5AsLEe3DhfYr4TMGIz+FUCc=; eLo08HjCpaVoRSC0cbOenBdnDGGJdDlWWsC3_abCL3.bPWuZK.u2ojkTVWA0 dgiJl4vdCl2YK5tKIRvBihMu9chggAfQLgJhOUsb.L7UaM50Z16G0XEn4O5J xOVC7K3rL54OfVNborMbZBgOO45xriQc.FXLtLobPuifFo5b0r4WkaqgXUWv W1pO.G7h9txLBmFgIbuTDCBA2Wb6vRWqp9ME_qKx2wyXW9wzBi1RjKUw.wDx A78668nhBTl5ypfw6owNdeKAWMLH3i_g99naXYtdxQGPjdQzCWwPhzPeT9_U 30OR8ZxTBc.05MBCsInxII34IbJpDewQEMWdNfEvfmhMcmXQ3ea7zDh82vR8 4sLcPKB0nTdUleVYEbg9Ceh.yvuqxKBg2jyZszzUF06cpcdjPezDpmHJmHlg w3d.lGU4uLJ9o5Htnz1a4.AhCZj6LBoxU5sgJK7tVDdktYdzhJk8Ok3S8gvG m3vvOxkN5BLpAozP.xRjIRc9hFmOrvxjg.49ammLUD2llHn4b5Lw6Y6P4fqk 8IyEXirYcsGnMYP7ywj2.YB7Oh.bkykJU1gmskFONI4izUnBncPa7lQ-- Received: from [108.240.211.64] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 05:27:33 PDT VGhhbmtzIFJhbmRhbGwsCsKgIMKgIMKgSSB0aGluayB0aGF0IHRoZSBtYXN0ZXIgY3lsaW5kZXIgaXMgZ29vZC4gSSBkcm92ZSB0aGUgY2FyIGFib3V0IHR3byB3ZWVrcyBhZ28sIGJlZm9yZSBJIGhhZCB0byByZW1vdmUgdGhlIE1DJ3MuIFRoZSBicmFrZXMgd29ya2VkIGZpbmUuCsKgIMKgIMKgSSB3YXMgdGhpbmtpbmcgb2YgZmFicmljYXRpbmcgYSBwb3NpdGl2ZSBwcmVzc3VyZSBibGVlZGVyIHdoZXJlIEkgY291bGQgcHJlc3N1cml6ZSB0aGUgbWFzdGVyIGN5bGluZGVyIHVzaW5nIGEgYnVnIHNwcmF5ZXIBMAEBAQE- References: <1378877405.65628.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 05:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Randall, I think that the master cylinder is good. I drove the car about two weeks ago, before I had to remove the MC's. The brakes worked fine. I was thinking of fabricating a positive pressure bleeder where I could pressurize the master cylinder using a bug sprayer so I could do one man bleeding. I wonder if this will work and if someone on the list has tried this. -Bill Brewer ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:20 AM Subject: RE: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 > I just wanted to verify that you > start at the > bleeder farthest from the master cylinder first. Shouldn't matter, you should be able to get fluid no matter where you bleed first. The book does say to do the farthest cylinder first, but I think it's just to reduce the amount of bleeding required. Sounds like you need to bench-bleed the MC. You might be able to get it going by bleeding at the outlet fittings while on the car. > I was told that you > could hook a Mityvak up to the bleeder and vacuum pump the > air out. It doesn't > seem to work. How does one use a Mityvac to bleed brakes? That's the theory, didn't work for me either. I think it was pulling air past the bleed screw threads, instead of fluid from the MC. BTW there is a reservoir that you are supposed to use between the MityVac and the brakes; the pump doesn't like brake fluif. > I am going to look for a one man bleeder tomorrow. The Dorman "speed bleeder" bleed valves worked a treat for me. But they won't help if you can't get the MC to pump. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 07:34:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900D54055F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:34:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f178.google.com (mail-ve0-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196954041B for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:29:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id jw12so5619228veb.23 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BPsbUXrgeQXv731AiQJOZM+JBFBA6a1+FEH9BBO36NA=; b=ot2inW4zPthmjJa/Dyotn7PvVMMEiVSZKk1x4uflRgqDeuqmaIr0eAoH89XHApoO34 bdoFBhg10UwFGAzeDKibwKrx8r7s0Ok3V98waognQdAH3lY3lKrREA5A4E4w2TmHyodR +jUk6o1jiDkz4V7cophKTxu4J9R1fEeJXXeR+MAt3o6ORlCp50BRMCjR5VU6k306nZVB 6iRP5niP7dnJEkSskngHX4gOxoLbVh0xN/A6+s4TETUCJby4DhPXxrTES+4/DBkYkbjM oxDXwNw06lVmBzMO57XwLoI2zh/bzHJ8mcAEHpr13uomrbYD/eAPoo9fsP67xl4kHeTy pDdQ== Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:55 -0700 (PDT) References: <1378877405.65628.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1378902453.84614.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:55 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics on a TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:27 AM, William Brewer wrote: > ... I was thinking of fabricating a positive pressure bleeder where I could > pressurize the master cylinder using a bug sprayer so I could do one man > bleeding. I wonder if this will work and if someone on the list has tried > this. Bill -- I have done this on the TR3A and a Jaguar. In the case of the latter it was the only way I could get fluid moving enough for a bleed. http://tinyurl.com/ancxr8n Just a cap of suitable size plus a connector and length of 1/4" tubing from my irrigation parts. I used an air tank and, of course, kept pressure low (about 12-15#). If you do not have a spare cap -- take a look in the pantry. Lots of food items (e.g. spices) have containers with lids that will approximately work. You can add a seal from a tire tube or whatever -- the seal doesn't have to be perfect. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 08:28:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5D240382 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F6B400AD for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-457eebd9.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.235.217]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MSY00EAFTJFZSO0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:28:24 -0400 From: Bob To: triumphs@autox.team.net Thread-index: Ac6u8++T6ErKKoMaSMqxqwUY2mTppwABk21g References: Cc: wsb1960tr3a@att.net Subject: Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Re: [TR] Bleeding Hydraulics These bleeders worked for me. I cannot confirm my purchase source, I installed them a few years ago. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-Brake-Speed-Bleeders-1969-1971-/39064982 0495?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5af48b354f&vxp=mtr Regards, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 09:54:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7155403A5 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3234A400FF for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:50:30 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=BKmRdvKBffDVjZCHzCK0+g==:117 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=4-DHnOaDJWomnmsKLhwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wrD0Pyjw0DcA:10 a=HvvEWluTYvkA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 65.78.44.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [65.78.44.200] ([65.78.44.200:58234] helo=[192.168.1.126]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id C4/4F-16085-64190325; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:50:30 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=93triumphs_list=93?= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:50:29 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Moss and British Parts Northwest have a lightened and oil drilled tappet with similar part descriptions but BPNW is less than half the price of Moss. (half $ x 8 is hard to ignore). But it is for a street engine and I could save more money and buy the stock ones. Any opinions? Allen ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 13:10:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5DB403EC for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s16.snt0.hotmail.com (unknown [65.55.90.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F33403EA for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT149-W54 ([65.55.90.7]) by snt0-omc1-s16.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:51:40 -0700 From: ED Morat To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:51:40 -0400 FILETIME=[301D4D40:01CEAF0F] Subject: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I'm proud to announce that after 12 years in my garage Ihave my TR-6 back on the road. It was fully restored, hydraulics, all new parts front and back, gas (Tank and Stainless lined fuel lines). Electronic ignition, electric fan, carbs rebuilt by Paltech Techonoligies and much more. I have had the pleasure of driving it and what a thrill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 14:43:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E7E40382 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:43:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B2F4009B for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93708A1923 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:43:03 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ED Morat wrote: > All, > > > > I'm proud to announce that after 12 years in my garage Ihave my TR-6 back on > the road. It was fully restored, hydraulics, all new parts front and back, > gas (Tank and Stainless lined fuel lines). Electronic ignition, electric fan, > carbs rebuilt by Paltech Techonoligies and much more. I have had the pleasure > of driving it and what a thrill > Sweet!! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 15:43:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FDA4032C for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF95B400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Pxhj1m00W2QmmGk01xhksh; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:41:45 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:41:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net you made a lot of good decisions! congrats! you still have lots of time to enjoy top down driving! -----Original Message----- From: ED Morat Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:51 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action All, I'm proud to announce that after 12 years in my garage Ihave my TR-6 back on the road. It was fully restored, hydraulics, all new parts front and back, gas (Tank and Stainless lined fuel lines). Electronic ignition, electric fan, carbs rebuilt by Paltech Techonoligies and much more. I have had the pleasure of driving it and what a thrill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 16:59:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA90400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D318400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.210.66.83]) by p3plsmtpa08-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Pyyk1m00c1nn4Uu01yypZx; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:58:50 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:58:39 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6vQgKfFlqrImZ4Qpmn3M6t/sGFdg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3/3a hood ornament Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone on the list have a hood / apron ornament for either a small-mouth (has "Triumph" at the bottom) or an early TR3a? Both are red. I have a beautiful (perfect 10/10) blue ornament, but am restoring a 57 small mouth and a 59 3A, both of which require a red ornament. I'd be happy to do a trade of one for the other. If anyone can help, please contact me off-list. Really appreciate it and sorry to bomb the list. Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 17:04:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DD0403A5 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAD7400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id m17so6662315vca.17 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6WSLVrox5DJ87FPH2WgaQTP4JBA3hU2SonSrFgf+/FU=; b=tRbwIgZxCFHLWYKJ1GXHvNgXQ0Y+oPA7VQG3aN0aZ5srCLNYjLZmdaaZ5OLqYhTcLj bvQZ6egcNS+miyWEcM4IcbAduy+3cyx65j+FXLYoT7sOkpnUooWWjD05QTuk2HGU1jnX Aum8RnNPMGxfv62dSgOaQ3wBf8m5yuDaa9fKmRyr2PQ0STBFN8keUf5pQVJgxngt67I2 /pT7UvCEZf7kQFYZ/l4ocfusufxFGEuwniqhqSj2HidIbm6482l2yCA+wU3vVs9VgK2T qUQatTwqfrhAVouyOtli9nwbaomi65j+YfHRY9uJm4czKAG8CqiYAPvjU2VsVe6YULRF oK4g== Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <001501ceaf42$7ddf94b0$799ebe10$@uprichard.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:04:11 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/3a hood ornament Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > ... I have a beautiful (perfect 10/10) blue ornament, but am restoring a 57 > small mouth and a 59 3A, both of which require a red ornament. Just to be sure -- this must be an early (Jan - Mar) 1959 TR3A as the change point (in the source I just looked at) was TS41874? Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 17:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCAB403A5 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:17:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com (mail-pd0-f176.google.com [209.85.192.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E424009A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:16:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q10so9864025pdj.35 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:16:49 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index; bh=jYJs/JrxEMCYsFO0tkAPtbaI/J4BrXU2iWxIuMYuzoc=; b=y2ZOSCE95Xtk3eNXJMokTRlUjxPARhtqlvzBsjvOklH2358Pbnrmd4Q0c3z+gOrxje wr7mRFvgdpa6WgPYQalHj7HvgEmZWN53DBq5ZgUaojNqEA37mQ9CMucwU+nB/aDy8y4n ZdpuZUGusbjCnB23Hm3nnZSEBh5C/UtrF9m6RPEm7ZrsM+aULhzvtidN2eXwewADzOK2 NLS5ObrmdfH7z58b5P617Kh5kNwGosMy8WJuihjQ6UpmGKRWVY5+ARBm+iX1Z3q8G6zw OclzVcYfiq9jpEEfjKy7ovIBhW0Gi7dGdEvVIPS8nwahZcWp8EDvNKJqZZtolvwHZrXQ ugaQ== d10mr4536136pbg.78.1378941409177; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMD5400 (122-59-245-167.jetstream.xtra.co.nz. [122.59.245.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm445256pbo.38.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Vassiliadis" To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:16:47 +1200 Thread-Index: Ac6vRP0AVMgdOIToTzGnnWupAt/koA== Subject: [TR] Diff Pinion Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My mechanic has removed the drive flange and has said that the drive flange has a mark that needs to be removed by linishing prior to speedy sleeving and installing a new seal. He then said that if its linished to remove the mark then it wont need a speedi sleeve. However what he is not sure about is whether the diff has to be taken apart to be reshimmed now that the drive flange has been removed. Does anyone know whether he can just put the flange back and do up the nut or he we opened up a can of worms? Any help appreciated. Jim and the 1962 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 17:30:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1D14032A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070D84003F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id z10so9894567pdj.3 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:25:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bek2kwFvru/i+WXNMg6XiecRwMuevh8qZbn2M+s/8mU=; b=T6eZLee89sG/EkP50tCQYHK5IXJrmhLr3ttOW43W9/GIVRCahlBT1jXdBwg1/4FmWa ybedemSr816lbaUIkagZGPnrMCjhTnrK1osZ9oJT5SN7A+aZcm1606ruHgfl31RT+cyq kVPunGOXDqO2Q+k7H8uBunw5u+rHwBQNh+wwpiyWkU6gS91Gro8GvMHViGbn1QR2kb54 i+TNsqsKBlPiSwpdjkHLfuOAyUUP07+2/8rIZwJYqZYbjendSM9KTySa6h0NlLjfqoFq YpnCkmxw5veP0MCZcko0TqSer/hmRRnItoc2QmlnCux3tAN7iJYwCss6O8f/ZOhPC9xF fjrA== mt2mr4428736pbb.115.1378941925003; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.224.74 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:25:24 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:25:24 -0400 From: Bryan Loy To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That's wonderful. Mine's finally back on the road after a 3 year hiatus. Feels good!!!! On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, ED Morat wrote: > All, > > > > I'm proud to announce that after 12 years in my garage Ihave my TR-6 back > on > the road. It was fully restored, hydraulics, all new parts front and back, > gas (Tank and Stainless lined fuel lines). Electronic ignition, electric > fan, > carbs rebuilt by Paltech Techonoligies and much more. I have had the > pleasure > of driving it and what a thrill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/paradisemusicnc@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 18:16:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB54038C for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:16:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F46400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:13:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id lf11so6776748vcb.35 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:13:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LskzNal5uO7lm6bQPzT4/Dug1ncaFBdctif/VHZdqjI=; b=EGHIFegN10R1x9y6ner+TgQo1w2oDxolH4drBbG5E8LfeDGv9Ae+e8th3yZFykWh31 LOHwmnho4W7aGikGdGdPoJSRfw00WLN9FEnr1FEb//Dl4GOM7IdKjU02VVqG+u3o/8zZ Q29RUmra+VxwQsqCdwpUiP/pm7BXd+7XzwLKvF5HOO978aIipa6UmjybTvEEOT4e30YZ hVxUrESZ9xnrHp7c1givtB589VEgURfBQtvpsaa83+lZbilFFEl9rbybNdZVTp8VKEnO EFwlQFMNoXX/QqzlaRC4jSt8YbKoifx6J8kXsDMm82ThznNSQCdSBS7l035Nz6CaXOWC EhKw== Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:13:51 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:13:51 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Jim Vassiliadis , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Diff Pinion Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I have done mine I marked the nut & flange (paint) and also counted the turns to remove -- this enabled me to reinstall it in the same position as before. Likely this info is too late to be if use -- but I think you could torque it to spec and be close enough (using the same shims). Others may have better input on this. Geo On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Jim Vassiliadis wrote: > My mechanic has removed the drive flange and has said that the drive flange > has a mark that needs to be removed by linishing prior to speedy sleeving > and installing a new seal. > He then said that if its linished to remove the mark then it wont need a > speedi sleeve. > However what he is not sure about is whether the diff has to be taken apart > to be reshimmed now that the drive flange has been removed. > Does anyone know whether he can just put the flange back and do up the nut > or he we opened up a can of worms? > Any help appreciated. > > Jim and the 1962 TR4 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 18:46:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50EA40357 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062274009A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:45:12 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=5DgujddLnwAA:10 a=rk-H5GB-5cb4URYjMgMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:55634] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 69/44-21526-79E01325; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:45:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 0:45:11 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Jim Vassiliadis Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Diff Pinion Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone know whether he can just put the flange back and do up the nut > or he we opened up a can of worms? Should be no problem at all on a TR4. Just torque it to the book value (85-100 ftlb) and put in a new cotter pin. If the shims were right before, they will still be right afterwards. (The problem units are later TR6, where the shims were replaced by a single-use collapsible spacer.) However, I find it odd that your mechanic says the surface has to be refinished before installing a Speedi-sleeve. The whole point of the sleeve is that the surface does not need to be perfect. He may be right about not needed the sleeve after the linishing (depends on how deep the mark is), but I wouldn't do both. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 21:07:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24DD403BB for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD1B4003F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:07:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id ec20so8101268lab.14 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:07:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=w+qmc8SBsYKSsxFQE+EnjiW6qenLaEFE+opU+2iBGrM=; b=AE+H6Kj0uk0rA4CJlJzeUZ9hjZay1AKHNkhQcHdWiIDLbYh1cece5Y7bSotlHSTr1e BOGI8uP1UYD0eY9W208FYOHciIBX1aV34++lO33vqLFAapC34vmWKvbZ9dZAIew85kzl qL4U2Ur+/re41hJnZQmWBf37/GcvgeaoS2QbxhQEDLFBJKaceLaoYWiSLQvt9xG63sFj d8Lwpm2cRBHEYS4X+0794HbLak0U91ynGnbdPlkMP20thIf6TEL885QFnzVuR+9ix4Q0 bgw7iVN0t11363CXvLDKc8MnjIlPZHr65Os14xeaYzU0t/2Y89eY6lnJU3poVUgbtgZR Kn6Q== mu8mr5404621lbc.25.1378955222210; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:06:42 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] just put a remote brake booster in a TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Been working on a TR3a with a buddy. A friend of his has a basket case car fully painted but in pieces. We've been putting together this "kit" for the last couple months - Lots of unexpected (but expected) tweaking needed to be done- DPO DPBM (BM=bodyman) left us lots of fun. One box had a remote brake booster in it - hadn't seen one before and the next month they show up in Moss catalog. He wants us to install it.... Thought it would be a nightmare - but really not bad at all - it needs to be tipped up at a 15 degree angle, so drilling the inner fender well and mounting it across from the fuel pump was perfect - nice angle and close to the Master cylinder. Let me know if you want some pics of the install.Its all together and running now - but leaks a ton of oil from the rear of the engine - but the brake pedal is quite nice with the power booster. Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 21:09:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1641403D7 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1084003F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:09:35 -0600 (MDT) a=ZDP+p+2EQUtzekylP04bRw==:17 a=jZ0QMvjkNTsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=pd_PP_Tabi4A:10 a=hGGUwQCrRjR7k8ioMBgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZDP+p+2EQUtzekylP04bRw==:117 Received: from [98.155.115.72] ([98.155.115.72:2564] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A7/03-11231-E6031325; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:09:34 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:09:37 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6vB0npKR3f7PrwTC+zejFIm6K3KAAXQ0NA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It was told to me by a TR restorer in the bis for 34 years to only use the heavy duty ones from BPNW. And I believe him, not the internet. In fact one of the lightened ones I had in my engine destroyed itself after 3 years and would have took the cam with it were it not for the cracked block. Johnnie 67 TR4A > > Moss and British Parts Northwest have a lightened and oil drilled > tappet with similar part descriptions but BPNW is less than half the > price of Moss. (half $ x 8 is hard to ignore). But it is for a street > engine and I could save more money and buy the stock ones. Any > opinions? > > Allen ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 23:38:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C60403A7 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CEE0E40356 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14985 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2013 05:33:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy5.unifiedlayer.com) (66.147.243.74) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2013 05:33:40 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com (just64.justhost.com [173.254.28.64]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 05:33:40 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=63761 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJyky-0002jZ-Qs; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:43:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:43:49 -0500 To: Allen Hess ,=?iso-8859-1?Q?=93triumphs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_list=93?= From: Tony Drews References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For a street motor I'd use the "stock" ones from BPNW. Tony Drews At 10:50 AM 9/11/2013, Allen Hess wrote: >Moss and British Parts Northwest have a lightened and oil drilled >tappet with similar part descriptions but BPNW is less than half the >price of Moss. (half $ x 8 is hard to ignore). But it is for a street >engine and I could save more money and buy the stock ones. Any opinions? > >Allen > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 04:46:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E0D403B2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com (mail-la0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB1B403A0 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:45:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id ep20so8411779lab.2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y/MKa1cULanCRym6YMohHEM1wRTLUm1Htwrp/3/4LDk=; b=jz2/ct+wjCe0gIoIK+JPx4GWuNQpSIFmy3Mef56QJj6F40oMM2er1yzQVX/4YvuCMY dIpS+OHFxpoc7NQTHWyCloXi0sFY4PXQ7dnb698chl1ucbGJvJgaddac2VWh+Z+q/apo k0tqmwivnAr+5zL0pSeFa05lTu//5Z8AJl1BWqpm5b8UHw6xaFD2hqdNcclw8nqfFLQ4 lKThWskLmhyxG/FhUJmNwHIp+6S6ch369wkIrXPEuSYltM+mhuRrAz89HCYwZhyaNpW1 pqnA0Carwy0w2DaN5ZH49nvUR8MlVNj/DuionSNZxtFM62gafDoALulAAYTeAq9i4H6u MXAA== la9mr5575270lab.3.1378982751217; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130912004511.V0C91.6842.root@cdptpa-web10-z02> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:45:51 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Diff Pinion Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Which surface and which part needs linishing? The shaft should be ready for the sleeve as is, unless he (or dpo) buggered it up while removing the seal... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 08:02:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B284F403D3 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54557403BA for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j10so10685663oah.41 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:56:45 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SbpHNHs+OHuyCYsyTyhes8XpkcfUSfmGRQRYGtBH2ss=; b=KT5bXyygdpjvEAJC1o54as/ZFHv9GrB+KkHY7Ul3NmoluhL8iPzmW4KT29CCz/h4v4 UoQmbKl/I5dkTpyuFQjTOVSWTTXnd9WR/NTQmGsWkBQ0TDQRCC9ucmmDbFyysE0do10W 1WcyXWK9coQseS0CR/iFOXvvtp9+gRThUo4DJ35mHernBpt69BM1593D1gnPpvWZPS8z pr/deu6gR1kvfPs2AoibvCG/5DQQ4Ts5XUQas+NJt35rdjl9C/oxsaY0GoxC/q9rWaCv 0Y+d/nhwyAbcz8XjVDm9IElcCOQYJ0Zb4vXEW9Z5h5Zh1pE2dO4L8Wl72z4ysTUqhNd6 bPXA== a5mr1132096oez.83.1378994205030; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm5959668oeu.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:56:42 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> <20130912053905.F0F54403A8@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/11/13 9:43 PM, Tony Drews wrote: > For a street motor I'd use the "stock" ones from BPNW. > > Tony Drews Whatever you buy, be sure to run a hardness test on each lifter. Return anything that tests less than Rockwell 50 hardness. If you are using higher pressure valve springs return anything less than 54. For a full race engine the hardness should probably be 56 or above. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 08:03:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7414403E8 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s14.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s14.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B254009B for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY173-DS14 ([65.54.190.124]) by bay0-omc2-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:00:33 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'John & Pat Donnelly'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> <00c601ceaf65$8410e320$8c32a960$@rr.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:00:15 -0700 Thread-Index: AQM0LNhYtKz1j0QWrHZmvNjmTeIw7AEltnq1lu34iRA= Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[7290B1B0:01CEAFC0] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There had been a series of failed tappet/cam issues with new lifters. Many of the new lifters failed to meet the Rockwell hardness test of the ones coming out. The whole ZDDP /Flat Tappet issue happened at the same time. Ultimately, I believe it had more to do with the break in lube/oil than the hardness of the Tappets, as everybody in the hobby was having the same issue - not just the TR guys. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John & Pat Donnelly Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:10 PM To: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets It was told to me by a TR restorer in the bis for 34 years to only use the heavy duty ones from BPNW. And I believe him, not the internet. In fact one of the lightened ones I had in my engine destroyed itself after 3 years and would have took the cam with it were it not for the cracked block. Johnnie 67 TR4A > > Moss and British Parts Northwest have a lightened and oil drilled > tappet with similar part descriptions but BPNW is less than half the > price of Moss. (half $ x 8 is hard to ignore). But it is for a street > engine and I could save more money and buy the stock ones. Any > opinions? > > Allen ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 08:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282CD403DF for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8AE4006E for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j6so10843327oag.0 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tkORCjy2PvIkLXdR1Vi/q2Q8cnTzBmJSuFhf/BAHubc=; b=J+h0nMbWDn2uW/fdF+sUz4ZdHobHUn9vIrxWV/ZAzGidtiAUufUKwHdoK4IcRslFk5 amDTlNu9CspU8nJuBqjmz526yJ1J4h810gUPbjNJtxjJTbyS4gw0VycUNeamjMN/cqC9 4ZrxEKfFE3ZedFyvhPEfaFr+25BxrO2jQMtUFm9Pk9Zpv4cGT4VielecxJcwn9US63wZ 30hrYxogI6q1yy/h5Bych2n6URdpB+2dzKMkSLD+d+tyxMx1WJpquW6xEi6qpxFls05J HLJhZTgb47AvM52/YmGRoRSoSGVaOJNrqb5WtMetqWgrauxhqbd/a1yC5FT9jrvJ4nQx R6qw== ki4mr6985148oeb.22.1378995171263; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gc8sm5765010obb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:12:48 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> <00c601ceaf65$8410e320$8c32a960$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/12/13 7:00 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > There had been a series of failed tappet/cam issues with new lifters. Many > of the new lifters failed to meet the Rockwell hardness test of the ones > coming out. > > The whole ZDDP /Flat Tappet issue happened at the same time. Ultimately, I > believe it had more to do with the break in lube/oil than the hardness of > the Tappets, as everybody in the hobby was having the same issue - not just > the TR guys. Well, I still returned a bunch of brand new soft tappets that didn't come close to spec. The factory tappets were over 50 hardness. And about 2 years ago I had to replace the cam in my TR3 because of wear and pitting on both the cam & lifters. I had been running Castrol with no additives. Since then I only use oil labeled for use with flat tappet engines. All my new tappets tested to 54 or higher. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 08:33:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F8403D5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81777403BA for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:29:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY173-DS19 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:29:21 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <407B7C00-504A-43F0-8BC8-74147F662ECD@mgcarclub.com> <00c601ceaf65$8410e320$8c32a960$@rr.com> <5231CBE0.7000706@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:29:04 -0700 Thread-Index: AQM0LNhYtKz1j0QWrHZmvNjmTeIw7AEltnq1AfQu+RoBgD0ihpbSXX7w Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[78B71BC0:01CEAFC4] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I used this standard on my last 3 TR3/4 rebuilds (2 morgan, 1 TR3) and haven't had any issues either, but use a ZDDP additive. Good insurance, and easy to test for, but I have to admit that I am curious as to which issue was driving the failures (a combination of the 2?) Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:13 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets On 9/12/13 7:00 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > There had been a series of failed tappet/cam issues with new lifters. > Many of the new lifters failed to meet the Rockwell hardness test of > the ones coming out. > > The whole ZDDP /Flat Tappet issue happened at the same time. > Ultimately, I believe it had more to do with the break in lube/oil > than the hardness of the Tappets, as everybody in the hobby was having > the same issue - not just the TR guys. Well, I still returned a bunch of brand new soft tappets that didn't come close to spec. The factory tappets were over 50 hardness. And about 2 years ago I had to replace the cam in my TR3 because of wear and pitting on both the cam & lifters. I had been running Castrol with no additives. Since then I only use oil labeled for use with flat tappet engines. All my new tappets tested to 54 or higher. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 11:22:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF27403DF for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B96403B2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QDHW1m0050S2fkCA3HLVE2; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:20:29 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QHLU1m00n2yr1eL8VHLUUK; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:20:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:20:28 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: ED Morat s=q20121106; t=1379006429; bh=Yuk8R0cL4R3gnN2+qfu3MG5VgO0f6Dyhr8vPIys7H/g=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Idkwu5P7pHsfGMdcy/pxZRPziSL/0VUdfsNVyGLsbdCudbYy112RLZCD/ACu0UvuA /lfPzBTbhgNeSAO5n0clu/5j7u0MOn41+3FZQc69aTdytGh9KbEg5CpOh1z6Vub+ED n8eem+jXM+QnwomdcnTD63lEFOEI3V9WqB5fLa+1EV9zwd7m/mo5MzScz4BN1OTbxK G9qEvgZsb1urP61A1XR7YBCI9WPR0FE/X7nSQCXaFwbmLw8E0yPORAYVqnmH0i93Q4 JQUNbqFToHRJnkGRaWA0d3TKH6VUoVBOM6TTKPz3uIfdq9ep2tzvqMZISYPjLXUfmD mhOEJvoA6hXOA== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good on you! Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ED Morat" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:51:40 AM > Subject: [TR] TR-6 Back in Action > All, > > > > I'm proud to announce that after 12 years in my garage Ihave my TR-6 > back on > the road. It was fully restored, hydraulics, all new parts front and > back, > gas (Tank and Stainless lined fuel lines). Electronic ignition, > electric fan, > carbs rebuilt by Paltech Techonoligies and much more. I have had the > pleasure > of driving it and what a thrill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 18:23:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A3D40411 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C08403ED for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:12:27 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gPjtzLufhexm-xW57B8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=7TxMz9SeX8cA:10 a=AcNFBXFEfEUA:10 a=e77TO1a_qaaTOnTk-SoA:9 a=a7kjC2Vn1uU1QKHg:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50552] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id B3/C7-00366-A6852325; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:12:26 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:18:10 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just out of curiosity, where would one get tappets checked for hardness? Thanks, Dave Connitt (Praying my tappets are hard enough) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 20:02:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0498140437 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716FE403CF for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:58:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 01:58:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.168] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 01:58:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1079.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 01:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 21187 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 01:58:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379037493; bh=mberBgEDcLfgurYVZSr5fA5Ju7fd7N63Ou5l8XmbW7M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VdRQ1qlswhaY1hWzYEWCC2OheJluuHx4aOxRKOGyEZAbufo2UBqmJlQiBegLBnOmDhGxaj4CZPB76VoDX/XAIrBzZwkUl6ntRqViMrIqvMVp+7RVj/zMfu54tMOwIH0r8SgFI9A9905XEUuNbMXQy03nEgxh2uzz/mEQg6xf6t4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CA8FifRCe5Yno33vmW0fMWJ6GvgqhnYRV7zwwVSq+jcPtldqxnbwFH6eTW6JO2Q6/zPvUqoq+Nox6jDUtjuPgq7+JQ8WTlGcNVlyHu8CzmNcbVGe/Y0U3dUs+shODqiW2itLGaFHdQ5dxHwx5V6L0tLvWFq8i2U3CCNR4MHojfY=; PSgd1AfK8BuxrwwCyY6j9viiwTJtKMR8_OTJfC08Zx17a5Scf9EUPrk.SBE0 XbeEDqbm2p7Expey94EwsjnpynmAJLj196RQwCtdFsEmvp5.APc_LIxgkvZ4 TqtUD_uX_EEC3J6Vzm8.VTIf1bhGW2fQCvMkPUpCNGCqFYuPgkT4H6pt3jpi .q6uYwPXR_m3fsORZBbSoDFAY2wvV4VZt5uLdNRVn8QQPxdii79lZzvR9Ett MJQYXuZ7JgpzM8n8oyUrhm_w3ysUA4ewkF4qAk2mHbRtoTg226Sz5QDaSN45 .u13RqKONg2nU5f1oYpTN81vn0deSc4ZaDb4Rl7AOpLaj5p4Yz632byFsCdz bXp5PEr0YLidD8l1EdEzmNBo662hgWCn0IY4WjeFzzRW0E_xVSRIenN0SxMt Xskg3eX9p54VTJiBSRg3l34TZ.bt4r4xzjVZNE0X8aYE.Zpv2FVIvBdNEp1t RFC6kSBzHHvjVPP04whlsfq89gos_pndnZtByETLFNUAn1SmSY2r8MoX9.x7 F8FpDDarZ64Yv.h_Mi861mvxHhjBS3uVYIHT_7t9zjnjdbUGsSEY5LtAEmbp WO5bDuxcpliM- Received: from [108.0.20.132] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:58:13 PDT YXQgbXkgaG91c2UKRnJhbmsKCkZyb206IERhdmUgQ29ubml0dCA8ZGNvbm5pdHRAZnVzZS5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIFNlcHRlbWJlciAxMiwgMjAxMyA1OjE4IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gVFIzLzQgdGFwcGV0cwoKCkp1c3Qgb3V0IG9mIGN1cmlvc2l0eSwgd2hlcmUgd291bGQgb25lIGdldCB0YXBwZXRzIGNoZWNrZWQgZm9yIGhhcmRuZXNzPwpUaGFua3MsCkRhdmUgQ29ubml0dAooUHJheWluZyBteSB0YXBwZXRzIGFyZSBoYXJkIGVub3VnaCkBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:58:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Dave Connitt , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net at my house Frank From: Dave Connitt To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:18 PM Subject: [TR] TR3/4 tappets Just out of curiosity, where would one get tappets checked for hardness? Thanks, Dave Connitt (Praying my tappets are hard enough) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 22:39:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FCF40444 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:39:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f173.google.com (mail-pd0-f173.google.com [209.85.192.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B03B403F5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:38:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id p10so727822pdj.32 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:38:40 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index; bh=JIGU6ytJS1ArqFEF6t0HIZcFHTjPagw0mfmwdMftmLs=; b=iky9CHdQNDrydrAL7qIseBpEOWXb8Evm5+VDYpYXXg2KA7SRW4Qi3mdo2pebW0HNjF MwWXNXji1yYTGOiTYB+hhHUioQ8FbKSpTH5+vek2IjYAtQuwcOCQOLWoY3v1yF8MVlgu bRGizlaC3prdiN61gVaXHEWuJkWkQBoRqX+f4NdeazrPC4fr1FNhkeSM7pjMnkO5GSP8 pOv5kmfs7cNC4Fu2SO93A1v9hYtAWERC8ojy6GVLUqDQVFPWFJxXvVx9camMDYthNuvh cq2c2IWLLqkEyFRjxuH6O6q94+fp0rifF96fP+SZTtvhUsamGuPFJhki2YnqT5uWEjzI h/bA== hs13mr6711233pac.163.1379047120370; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AMD5400 (122-59-245-167.jetstream.xtra.co.nz. [122.59.245.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xe9sm15029808pab.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Vassiliadis" To: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:38:41 +1200 Thread-Index: Ac6wOx9t5HTfIkWlRnmKRoxo4Y055w== Subject: [TR] Diff Pinion Seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thankyou for the replies. We decided that because the marks were a bit worse than minor, they'd be filled with liquid metal epoxy then sanded and then speedi sleeved. Then the flange would be torqued back to spec as per the recommendations. Jims TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 09:54:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA3C40409 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E894053F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:13:30 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.126] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:13:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:13:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 66761 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 15:13:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379085209; bh=xFjCPplJqtzQwAEHM7/9QnK92nR5vphItSLlVS1XiTs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cTbFq0UT4gMK2WCYEfDHKhUvCXDp5pLGGCXEOx8OKW/gDIqurKazdbGjuFDGSJcvmqNO3Swa4jZNjtBQVPqbwPf+NIA5IlLEgVDjt8X6+pNL178eHRkPrybmnVT+Gh1nKERsrvsEOeeF77utXRR2BNRw4l6GMziTri2mw6s//0U= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ku1on9KJo1kPCiI3CsEeffMjnX7u57ZpoWkcVyj5SiLxWA4rHxLj1r3tj9vE/PhCm+ZrRI7JRbpO9YjG82DAgid51MvPTRY64kHKOFqMBjbXIqSOtlbSe+GI/npNT+wLnDawPtFidNFrVbw5+MmFLVp3bHXDHX4WsBb6huW0IlQ=; FHnFJV2WiayJWal3ncg.5bJkRC2uvYqg_aymsDoJHypBerll07RtX78RqJlG 5WmcSCH8CPNSn_Uy6Lo2P6KjtBU1Iy5wQNfJ8hebOpunOfydSh7ZSa8YdPLP mpfdtEzGwwXJcRenkSsRllG3K70xdxWK6heG9RcjH8p9i7vVaK4aFBiY55Kh LLR_E5zMX4.ZIkHBHP7x7iRzqr3JIeGbKVxkxnZyZwR24E9RwPywrJ8BUFY2 3awgwWcSOwvQKGXZK8pb3ruBtqcAL8e9XEoblIs1CEcINpS03uzVU2pC1ShL 1PV4uk0B974QuatSlnQ4FzppQuhWlk66_Mhj_hAngalRU54ZIk5obS1fD3.i vbe.xQv24t7P_aiQhOJGnEU0iHqoZOJqc0QgdxdKZhFJn8gCptRoaSqOHu2D ETBECcRY6xJaJ0iQzi8bwBlorOW.BACGCXTqPr.8sM3v7nFEToxdaXz2oIF9 Q6JnmsmFkkrT1MJk1ukKwWOV_agz.2VaYDgEYgaQWrh2YOsoOX_SVOtYGBL7 a9PcwfUYnq5g_9ynFpJPQUgrYxQ-- Received: from [108.220.118.35] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:13:29 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBNeSAxOTc0IFRSNiBoYXMgbm90IHJlYWxseSBiZSBkcml2ZW4gc2luY2UgdGhlIG1pZC04MCdzIHNvbWV0aW1lLCBtYXliZSBldmVuIGVhcmxpZXIuSSBoYXZlIGxvZ2dlZCBhYm91dCAxNSBtaWxlcyBpbiAxIGJsb2NrIHRlc3QgZHJpdmVzIG92ZXIgdGhlIGxhc3QgNSB5ZWFycy4gwqBJdCBqdXN0IHB1dCBpbiBhIG5ldyBmcm9udCBjbGlwIG9mIHRoZSBpbm5lciBsZWZ0IGZlbmRlcndlbGwgYW5kIGZyb250IHZhbGVuY2UgYW5kIHRoZSBib2R5d29yayBpcyBib2x0ZWQgYmFjayB0b2dldGhlci4BMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Electrical Issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My 1974 TR6 has not really be driven since the mid-80's sometime, maybe even earlier.I have logged about 15 miles in 1 block test drives over the last 5 years. It just put in a new front clip of the inner left fenderwell and front valence and the bodywork is bolted back together. Before this project (about three weeks ago) I took the car for a test drive without fenders and hood. Now that I want to go for a test drive with the assembled car, the car won't start. It started up the first try and then stopped when I discovered that it was out of gas. I put in gas and then it cranked briefly and slowly. I assumed that it was a dead battery, but the battery had been charged recently. I heard what sounded like the starter solenoid clicking. When I hook up the battery, something clinks under the hood like it is energized with the key off. I checked it out and found that on the right side of the radiator are two cylindrical things. The top (big) one has hoses going into it (carbon cannister?) and the smaller bottom one has two wires attached to it. The bottom one appears to be what is clicking when the battery is hooked up. Can someone tell me what this thing is? I previously had problems with the ignition key and it wouldn't turn or come out of the ignition. A little WD-40 and working it and it eventually turned. It is the original key. You have to joggle the key in the start position to get the car to start, like it has a bad contact. I am still trying to figure out what I have for a car and need to drive and test it. TR6 electrical is a lot more complicated than my TR3. I am assuming that perhaps my starter solenoid is burned out. Any advice would be appreciated. Bill Brewer Tehachapi, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 09:55:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6673E4053C for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3993D4053C for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.164] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:27:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:27:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 15:27:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379086021; bh=PcDKORI7ONboCAziiNK5hTp78WwCwdLMGhCz5sge0aA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=KJe9jMgisieTGTdirJs27r26Dq+5DHXYFFkhAbzn2DV80Yhsm5htA2FraApM48U1gImkhhzMLX+I2ti8wGanjY94ljqj8KvQgg7xc+JUGR5BacM0K04KioCVWczMnOeFKebBkSZBWPn3mStUw9V7cvSeICtNu04rq5OC2m5wLBc= q96tMeOguEZWonLJsXuVJeuJvsz3wwg2nDinSgTjd7NtUKYrxTXj9jWlc3Yg oa8rsorE32KmP6RdqYYpRCqjOJ3B9Ru7eUuXORvc_C2ObUndljSv.RMGeq_N OxteSnJs_3PlMd_C79cjLE2s.uFkWx5o4Mpcz_3QsEP9zbfNDf6G09Cwdxrx LJ0vFrUIxVBau6SEZNBURb2Vu61aZ9_Qh59caLqQR59ZhilG.jin3JfH9FsF PvG8t295vH9QA2tSKVzhhzxnbMhJbn6R.mBspJ4GsEh2qnw2aAu_89Zt8NIo I1kH6_pgwdITcB_vM7SUb24BhkA6lQIwbrWWHJB_.Qvcwo7jDcYmH34kJ1xS n0sMGr7YQG5Ge1KkdG5OinYQkJt7acoJXtrTaX0LLDYkYDduy8strZKfjoPT A5_ICdxonfHJcaWRtMhcpPDFdL_KJZAhaMOU9tAW6oa73I7pEIrk1tXVlZC0 0tgkox.wcAj48ftNNy355YG3JrmhNw4s4iTpKm8Iyy8H86jau3dd_Q_DwDYs n4aubDTeHtU1FE_.IG6jMeMnQNHqfMBtIr0cElTBG2VoB1GwPutfD80dj8Ly nYhq_sRW5EDwe7Z4zCmweksoKUo.wzQciY.AqTc.mdzpXNXgfzjJvxO4lDLO gIkqqvlntBKZYm7AzdxRBUSUzxARB6JubiRTi6SnNk9a0dy5Hgqq3x280Dk3 K4ISBJw-- smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2013 15:27:01 +0000 UTC From: To: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:26:50 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6wj4w9WFf3V35TQhG+/a4vTVu6hQAA+pKw Subject: [TR] FW: [mogtalk2] Goodwood Revival Live Streaming Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Live stream from Goodwood. Just watching a couple of Minis dicing with a couple of 1963 Ford Galaxie 500s. Interesting mix indeed. At 18:15 PM (GMT) everyone in the UK time zone should be able to watch live streaming of the Freddie March Memorial Race from Goodwood using the link below (featuring NOJ 393 and several other 100s Austin Healeys - NOJ 393 was restored by Steve Pike of Australia): http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/revival-live/revival-live.aspx Cheers, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC434009B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DB84009B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:03:53 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=vfPrnW1zT-oA:10 a=wA3IH16dMcadzPowN1QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 68/F8-00757-77543325; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:03:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:04:02 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6wmYUbYIVcOSMtTgSZyJ/0TSPlZAAB+mTQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Electrical Issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I checked it out and found that on the right side of the > radiator are two > cylindrical things. The top (big) one has hoses going into it (carbon > cannister?) and the smaller bottom one has two wires attached > to it. The > bottom one appears to be what is clicking when the battery is > hooked up. Can > someone tell me what this thing is? That would be the anti-runon valve. It is supposed to be energized only when the key is off and the engine still has oil pressure. Sounds like your oil pressure switch is wired wrong. For now, just pull a wire off the solenoid. > I am assuming that perhaps my starter solenoid is burned out. Could be, but doesn't seem likely from your description. Try momentarily running a jumper from the hot side of the batter to the side terminal on the solenoid (the one that should have a white/red wire on it) and see what happens. If the engine cranks, the problem is not the solenoid. If not, use a voltmeter to check first that you are actually getting 12v from the side terminal to the solenoid housing; and then check the voltage across the two big terminals on the solenoid. If it has juice coming in, but there is 12v between the two big terminals _then_ the solenoid is bad. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:33:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DAF40424 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:33:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290A64040F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:33:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D653D700370BD for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 19493E000086 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:32:59 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379093579; bh=Fp17d0nYK1Iu2i508IpGt/1xoAQoFUFIaLfO1NC+Vyc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KJeSIL/EaTuJA+YtWoycmsCSv2adoHCf65+zkUF12mRr23ZavYwKI7xQjOUnLwjSm VHSnBcX0v5KIrLECp7+IyrVThFWiF4kI9m501ZH1+wNSnodygfBmyV3Y4IOltUTiqR FjCrRpKGDwQW/rzncDfguuXt1nm3iQxJv5neTgJM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c952334c4b4669 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Electrical Issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That little round thing with the two wires going to it is the Anti-Run-On valve. It works in concert with the three prong oil pressure switch and a special contact on the keyswitch to energize when shutting down. It applies manifold vacuum to the charcoal canisters and hence to the top side of the float chambers in the carburetors to starve the engine of gasoline to prevent run-on. It should not be clicking in the situation you describe. Since you have had problems with the keyswitch I would look there first. If this stays energized all the time the engine will start but will not continue to run very well. But it will not prevent it from starting. If your battery is fully charged but cranks slowly there are a couple things to check. Check the battery ground connection. On the TR6 the negative cable has two tabs, one of which attached to the body at the firewall and the other attaches to the engine/bell housing flange. Make sure that connection is solid. Also check the positive cable connections at both ends. If you engage the starter with the lights on do they dim? If they dim then you may need a new starter. If they do not it could be the solenoid. The next step is to dust off the multimeter. Measure the voltage between the engine block and battery negative when cranking. It should not exceed .5 volts. Measure the voltage from the starter stud and the battery positive post. It should not exceed .5 volts. Knowing this will help narrow down the search. Good luck. Dave In a message dated 9/13/2013 10:53:49 AM Central Daylight Time, wsb1960tr3a@att.net writes: > My 1974 TR6 has not really be driven since the mid-80's sometime, > maybe > even earlier.I have logged about 15 miles in 1 block test drives over the > last > 5 years. It just put in a new front clip of the inner left fenderwell and > front valence and the bodywork is bolted back together. Before this > project > (about three weeks ago) I took the car for a test drive without fenders > and > hood. Now that I want to go for a test drive with the assembled car, the > car > won't start. It started up the first try and then stopped when I > discovered > that it was out of gas. I put in gas and then it cranked briefly and > slowly. I > assumed that it was a dead battery, but the battery had been charged > recently. > I heard what sounded like the starter solenoid clicking. > When I hook up > the battery, something clinks under the hood like it is energized with the > key > off. I checked it out and found that on the right side of the radiator are > two > cylindrical things. The top (big) one has hoses going into it (carbon > cannister?) and the smaller bottom one has two wires attached to it. The > bottom one appears to be what is clicking when the battery is hooked up. > Can > someone tell me what this thing is? > I previously had problems with the > ignition key and it wouldn't turn or come out of the ignition. A little > WD-40 > and working it and it eventually turned. It is the original key. You have > to > joggle the key in the start position to get the car to start, like it has > a > bad contact. > I am still trying to figure out what I have for a car and > need to drive and test it. > TR6 electrical is a lot more complicated than > my TR3. > I am assuming that perhaps my starter solenoid is burned out. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 19:05:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E0042953 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DCA4006E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:09:45 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.241] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:09:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:09:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 76261 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 21:09:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379106584; bh=IhKKy1HROvaD6rofP7eNgb2eiE4iO9odrZDzjEEQ6p0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tvVlDGxUyZtTZ7ANgn4KhYf/R9dvrnXgBM3Y2gQM9t0hpJTbAkFXbBOz2dv7V2NaoIggbjg+rvU/p++q08LJCp6fbF01OqsZut22sQN6axD5Ea6Vwyph4NG0OjwHZXUGFA86sB07KaHa9PoIFA5TEvAX1Lc6GTMrm9UJG/TQIA0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xxV+HbehV/c5yQ+L4Hx9Jc7Rzc41TETGSWWPUicZhW3ZuKKjTjYMOtT/k2kBcVbZIMeIWvE4LeYk3nL5ZPuMHF/76Jw6fUy4O8raYVPDX5dno69Sh/ICw1E8KSNmXJdblaSBZ3XZ/GqmqJGmrLc0HTFbOnglO/DQi98u26iZEtI=; r0gyVaKYMVIholqoQDcq.5WY8qJGYtJWVQj1ee2EJ0s3fOJ9TClVeJ4fCP9O g3hupYv34p_I6KujY0WkA2UL7WtO42CVJ0_t3V.uru2drEfPC_lg0anzrF7p PMwy0EMWp6KZl0xc7tLecFnKJ8Uj0xrfNexPdGDYxq6QoXv9wgftF_MzHwKm tiH4s_G1fg6ySNLbZIGGwI9.D4YFiurI..daBSr9lZA3zrDkC3SjpHv_5cN3 kHt8nuStsEqbD2bAmVA0kxo7XK0Z5s1cBs2tDpyd6FoGsRy8YvFXJnATN32f IphK9jwoVegExxqrugqUENm55JA4xN0.8QjLevhq2VE7fHJnNAw87wphmXBx DoOTWvuNYTeTiqUzrWUPuRk3k0aKuIa0V4N0csAzXQWFoXuBsGPjwERSP4q. Hz3dtFcPc.iOKfTmEjUBrPfw93ACVa0YDlOPDmz5kOXAEXy2k_En_IEKzLbC F_63v7YH0IIZ6Xj_rhZuvuTsWy5GM.eFRKLKcx7SUnQf21oXwjbTaQpC0pmK CJQDpLa9UHCDN7zl7Yv9bKEELYOfOlPE- Received: from [108.220.118.35] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:09:44 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBUb29rIHRoZSAxOTc0IFRSNiBvdXQgb24gdGhlIHJvYWQgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCByZWFsIGRyaXZlIGluIGFib3V0IDMwIHllYXJzLiBJIGRyb3ZlIGl0IGFib3V0IDUwIG1pbGVzLiBUaGUgY2FyIGRpZCB3ZWxsLCBidXQgSSBzdGlsbCBoYXZlIGxvdHMgb2Ygd29yayBhaGVhZC4KwqAgwqAgwqBTb21lIG1pc2NlbGxhbmVvdXMgcXVlc3Rpb25zLCBtb3N0bHkgYWJvdXQgZG9pbmcgdGhlIGNhcidzIGZpcnN0IHR1bmUgdXAgaW4gYWJvdXQgMzAgeWVhcnM6CgrCoCDCoCDCoDEuIEhhcyBhbnlvbmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Misc TR6 Ignition, VA and Other Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Took the 1974 TR6 out on the road for the first real drive in about 30 years. I drove it about 50 miles. The car did well, but I still have lots of work ahead. Some miscellaneous questions, mostly about doing the car's first tune up in about 30 years: 1. Has anyone installed the MOSS vacuum advance upgrade on their TR6? The car came with vacuum retard for smog reasons. 2. Where does the original vacuum retard hook in to? Mine is just hanging. 3. If you put 205-70-15 tires on a TR6 and then use the MOSS stiffer springs which lower the car 1", will the tires rub? 4. My trans has a leak out the rear seal. Can it be changed with the trans in the car? About how hard is it? It makes an oil spot about 5 times as big as all of the other oil spots combined. TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 19:09:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D733A429A8 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70E42814 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:23:12 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.236] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:23:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 21:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 86083 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 21:23:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379107391; bh=hjjfmaYunF3ZYOxdf6g8U+Y8w7e4HpkkVuSKx32bMoo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UcpgWVlLx7ZWU0EL79Q4VUsd1u3oVAi0MNt+adjV9d8EdrofjEEK5m4HRYxEVGeE86QNDzAlXfmlJhpH8MdVxmI1YGhYJGPbAYeISEbWdlY+ScAjvZExb6DMEw6QmAzytH0WwFUZQzMXfVFqRz+TNzCrSKzEWfJrGFGuKS0gcQM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=voZ5hBU2xL4rM3uh1iBjeipA+I6LPRDCfll29b+Oj1a2HYpaExKETc7DOWb8eqSl08V3xpDfEr/ykBcRSkOt/SNf8Pe108kp1IKIvdCHs3E8OOzSVwiDGV5rgUaRu4r/UsxNKXCdA0Xuz8KWixA+rdjUBKwjfTGnMSqLfWXGwjA=; HX_fnJt1dVUkdoTUVHhZgm7OFeuDQAjS.Aic3lQdxnmuhNKE.gJIf9XG6DBl 7jR0R72JvDMot4SwmRWsWaLAll.8VQDAmaCw5pB38w.LGo22NVdx4B65SluX 3uAIjab0QQMOQRwjErMEHdhw5_oGt7Llw6wrkB8WDyzcVyyFzyxWGTsW9U2r hdg95oeTSoKPE9nM7STdHOY7bLIKGt1QicareX9Rr6TAIyzbhhqUvmNS2Zo_ SKtCX6EeYaMvUDiBSuqvK.t6yhFZ3sOdnqtvkTCiItcgH07AYeIt9rnPE7Wv 90gJMhlTID7mvAT.k2S.RhYhnHQkyKmBHCcKu97R_B2yJyXxeHkhkRbRqz5B 0P44sd0Pu3O4eQSsJDZlyIqlNBo.2HL5QM12cnHLQIB0RevkTJgPS7CpUY8u I4nPsr5aveG_mB5Du78vr_Fwe.q8oPflIZ9YVlwdTe9LFi6pLijFvxX70e6k Qh0J3LagStF0VTA6.UOKt63_OcKhNdb2XZ81BcLBkB7ptArf6LQlhENNG4I1 54xwS.SK_ubqAel4jrRrTQfr8p2_Khg-- Received: from [108.220.118.35] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:23:11 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGJvdWdodCBhIHNldCBvZiBuZXcgdW51c2VkIFRSNiBob29kIGhpbmdlcyBvZmYgb2YgRWJheS4gV2hlbiBJIHdlbnQgdG8gaW5zdGFsbCB0aGVtIHRoZXkgd2VyZSBsaWtlIDEiIHRvbyBuYXJyb3cgdG8gZml0IHRoZSBob29kLiBJcyB0aGVyZSBhbm90aGVyIFRSLCBtYXliZSBhIFRSNCwgVFIyNTAgb3IgR1Q2LCB0aGF0IHVzZXMgYSBoaW5nZSBzaW1pbGFyIHRvIHRoZSBUUjY_CgrCoCDCoCDCoC1CaWxsIEJyZXdlcgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:23:11 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Hood Hinges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a set of new unused TR6 hood hinges off of Ebay. When I went to install them they were like 1" too narrow to fit the hood. Is there another TR, maybe a TR4, TR250 or GT6, that uses a hinge similar to the TR6? -Bill Brewer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 21:21:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E5C42983 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:21:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36147406AE for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:23:34 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=ir2BWDdvBVsA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=8aXPuka8czcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=bU6HF1tcSafWtk_skXgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pTNw1-L4D_tEx-zwXwAA:9 a=9Oc9MKzfC1f9_h6l:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50850] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id FB/5D-02236-55E93325; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:23:01 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:28:47 -0400 Subject: [TR] Sanity Check on Moss fuel pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I am getting real close to starting my TR4A for the first time in 13 years.. Checking for possible fuel leaks, I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and using the priming lever on my new Moss fuel pump, I was able to fill the carbs. However, after a few additional pumps of the priming lever, suddenly nothing is happening when I press down on the priming lever. I am assuming that the carbs are full and when I press down on the lever, there is no room for more fuel so nothing happens... I went back upstairs to eat dinner and will see if I can bleed off some of the fuel and see if the pump will replace the fuel. I am just making sure that I won't toast my new camshaft by not running the engine for 20-30 minutes to seat the cam lifters by running out of fricking gas. Am I worrying too much or what? Thanks, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 21:27:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9E942A41 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:27:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0F54271B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qnfv1m0061c6gX855o7jDA; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:07:43 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([66.30.34.177]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qo7i1m00M3pJLtN3jo7iPJ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:07:43 +0000 From: Charles Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:07:42 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" s=q20121106; t=1379117263; bh=w9J4SWXtvlmxpU4GuD/BKN1+lJ2igU0ZbEf3pwuuFt0=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:From:Content-Type: Message-Id:Date:To; b=kdJbuFo74qK3gTfhBWXHVnWe8OfExKBGdeurxJpF0KJBrRlaNc2Nn3T9/iVcppt34 NgFy6kLCjlryxbnSkAKLDoC0afkJ8dqd0rB2AjUkL/ez/GCz1XY0WmBivD3rb3WFO2 9QVTrZr8DF8+FNJaE6VoV8hrQZJ8mYfkdl+kW5ao26bV19SdxGII6bl4Ns9tdwnvKi IxoOyHxuHNjX/cJsj697Uf9cNnkLMkQ6iYf2NIoN0MuI8uAF73D5WfMtuuTDim7vfC s9VNwcWq3htJ0+ML5tgAxSj8kXRQNfxuNXpZUQHo1csi/hO4tFooXxF3SZ7HQq8l55 ewUk95jijkRJA== Cc: "wsb1960tr3a@att.net" Subject: [TR] TR6 Electrical Issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Concerning your recent message: Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Electrical Issues Bill: The key piece of information may be the fact that this is a "1974" TR6. I think one very real possibility is that the dreaded seatbelt ignition interlock module/system is not functioning properly. Check that you follow the correct sequence if you sit in the drivers seat, fasten seat belt, door closed, no passenger in seat or belted up. The seatbelt interlock module in the footwell area under the dash on the passenger side can be bypassed if necessary with a jumper wire between the relevant pins (I'm sure someone on the list can supply the relevant link, tech bulletin, and method). But, that would be one possible fault to explain the non-start condition. --Charles Sent from my iPad ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 23:35:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7510B42982 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from co9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co9ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [207.46.163.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8234F424D8 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:32:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail127-co9-R.bigfish.com (10.236.132.250) by CO9EHSOBE011.bigfish.com (10.236.130.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:34 +0000 Received: from mail127-co9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail127-co9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B457EBC00B2; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:34 +0000 (UTC) H:CH1PRD0210HT003.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail127-co9: domain of uga.edu designates 157.56.245.69 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.245.69; envelope-from=mathews@uga.edu; helo=CH1PRD0210HT003.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail127-co9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail127-co9 (MessageSwitch) id 1379129552881549_29316; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO9EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.236.132.230]) by mail127-co9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E5D120041; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0210HT003.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (157.56.245.69) by CO9EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.236.130.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:32 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (75.89.1.5) by pod51004.outlook.com (10.255.149.166) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.359.1; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:32:31 +0000 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:32:30 -0400 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Dave Connitt References: <5C546F25330C4F7F9EBC36DFC5EC0ECD@DaveLaptop> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Sanity Check on Moss fuel pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Once the floats close the gas lines, that stops the flow ISTR. Doug On 9/13/2013 7:28 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > OK, > I am getting real close to starting my TR4A for the first time in 13 years.. > Checking for possible fuel leaks, I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank > and using the priming lever on my new Moss fuel pump, I was able to fill the > carbs. However, after a few additional pumps of the priming lever, suddenly > nothing is happening when I press down on the priming lever. I am assuming > that the carbs are full and when I press down on the lever, there is no room > for more fuel so nothing happens... > I went back upstairs to eat dinner and will see if I can bleed off some of the > fuel and see if the pump will replace the fuel. I am just making sure that I > won't toast my new camshaft by not running the engine for 20-30 minutes to > seat the cam lifters by running out of fricking gas. > Am I worrying too much or what? > Thanks, > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mathews@uga.edu > > > -- p.s. I do not use a smart phone so if you email me and do not get a quick response it is not because I am ignoring you. Just not at a computer. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 01:28:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF3642BD5 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA424051B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:43:04 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=FePwrjOEgpQA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=g9n56iLaM2G8UF8OHB4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hEMz4gIwJ7IA:10 a=gnf5ts3bbaoA:10 a=XBzAfChOzla5Qw81jrwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50145] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id BF/75-00366-24AD3325; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:38:42 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:44:27 -0400 Subject: [TR] Moss fuel pump update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was lucky or right.. what ever. The hand pump must stop working when the carbs are full because when I went back down in the garage after dinner, the hand plunger worked again. Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 01:35:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0537842AB6 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F3340401 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2013 04:06:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.40] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2013 04:06:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2013 04:06:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379131560; bh=lPxQ5hL1wlZzUFnwrV4pXWtsetM/ZW/TDwSCnVC+8c0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=MACvbEyCpZa/ebHChj7Pi8bjorxQQT2+VZVQu0zRqtvmeI/k5Fxd817xLOhSY4jJOfWZfOS13YOJkQ5z7QkjqT2YkZ9Bksdvb/AWBKS0rHkIAsYZozThVesgIOypV986WXxQC64KVCR8AerIG6P3gcHc5URFgCpV/OHIbqVGOac= tU8FuN6.W1zXLKnNa9r4iPBn7wQMHpXimpKGCeZEY3upqSsbtT_q_yDU1ihz jPo105iojZeb2FsKd11.RfK4oOXM8NnfUagyL98SZnYecnHKr6NIn1YZJPvj fYVQtqf330AFVAAUGAojeMqOW7rrDLAcICEZuHLu5m4KzyNuWFbcA9RYZDie saWcBcve7KhilGQNhbBa.RRp5_E55pEIk10dPqcuVfBQcX_lz87JiwvQDqpH 6E20MwbFnidC4q04RHD5Ng_EIxeSM6o8dt5rgsuHtafMCWUpaAQZ3pSIgYCu ABHo5Ga9KdM4vsDNvZGXJO526e7raBXGeH8wBeE73VSAwAPeEg6e6Sj9CvfK npKRYrRtB02L3aK1twATmJTcG2aK_r_ZeNgU4TCRhWWEANMcpQpaIBrKg7Lu GxfYg.Bx4JTJwM8eRv4xLsfvVLN2HFMk26rw8Da6P6k26LNFM8UQ6VB0MvIn qGgSL2jLXDEV3p3_E_Zs1VV_ZQ0jv3GfIhxYQ7XjyA3iflcR9wCHZTVUJETq XxjfxxON3wWie7TMOUN6QN4Mjhno0vLpR6P..trQ3jYI7x3Wsa3Xv8i61 smtp108.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2013 21:06:00 -0700 PDT References: <5C546F25330C4F7F9EBC36DFC5EC0ECD@DaveLaptop> From: WBEECH Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:05:58 -0500 To: Dave Connitt Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Sanity Check on Moss fuel pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Yes, when the carb bowls are full it looks/feels like nothing's happening. If it will comfort you, pull the line at carbs and manually pump fuel into a container to see that all is working correctly. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:28 PM, "Dave Connitt" wrote: > OK, > I am getting real close to starting my TR4A for the first time in 13 years.. > Checking for possible fuel leaks, I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank > and using the priming lever on my new Moss fuel pump, I was able to fill the > carbs. However, after a few additional pumps of the priming lever, suddenly > nothing is happening when I press down on the priming lever. I am assuming > that the carbs are full and when I press down on the lever, there is no room > for more fuel so nothing happens... > I went back upstairs to eat dinner and will see if I can bleed off some of the > fuel and see if the pump will replace the fuel. I am just making sure that I > won't toast my new camshaft by not running the engine for 20-30 minutes to > seat the cam lifters by running out of fricking gas. > Am I worrying too much or what? > Thanks, > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 01:36:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA634309D for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9834051B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Toms ([unknown] [72.95.35.28]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT3007R7KTESK40@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:08:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Note" To: "Dave Connitt" , References: <5C546F25330C4F7F9EBC36DFC5EC0ECD@DaveLaptop> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:29:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Sanity Check on Moss fuel pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, you are correct. Once the bowls are full and the floats rise and close off any further fuel flow, the pump lever doesn't move the diaphragm but flops up and down without resistance. If all gaskets are good and the needle valves are doing their jobs, you probably won't be able to force more fuel into the carbs. Also, you may be aware that even if the bowls are empty, the pump lever won't do anything if the engine cam is in a position that keeps the pump arm from being moved by the external lever. In that case, you have to rotate the crank until it's at a position where you can feel resistance to moving the lever ( again, assuming that the bowls are not already full). Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Connitt" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:28 PM Subject: [TR] Sanity Check on Moss fuel pump > OK, > I am getting real close to starting my TR4A for the first time in 13 > years.. > Checking for possible fuel leaks, I put a couple of gallons of gas in the > tank > and using the priming lever on my new Moss fuel pump, I was able to fill > the > carbs. However, after a few additional pumps of the priming lever, > suddenly > nothing is happening when I press down on the priming lever. I am assuming > that the carbs are full and when I press down on the lever, there is no > room > for more fuel so nothing happens... > I went back upstairs to eat dinner and will see if I can bleed off some of > the > fuel and see if the pump will replace the fuel. I am just making sure that > I > won't toast my new camshaft by not running the engine for 20-30 minutes to > seat the cam lifters by running out of fricking gas. > Am I worrying too much or what? > Thanks, > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tom628@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 09:55:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1FA4041A for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:55:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87284053C for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 06:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id jy13so1785582veb.6 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:48:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nrtPJGBy8lf5cWHoDz7nGRkyxu3u4X5oFVOuUGV5oHY=; b=rUM6zBf3vXLAmgig9PxsEOnHuT9+QnAIOlxuH1MYO3kCV5YSvsYcmlq3xh62Wi2VeO s8KjN9FvKVYpHVsWWbnMRtctcobHgoiNAI6Dw/HtlTX5pOIOKT3xCiRtz3zCoIk1BMPR 3Ubt3ACvTlKHq2V3jVdg19oZcI9KdOJr7rmHjiB0U++PqNgjGkMhz8HiUPg33Eieu6iX Wd11zV842UW9XnwmPllK4DNh9aFYQ13Yfk3mZWrQKNZ5XJtdwYFSz5wrjMbA1eaqvQ3P 73/dEnEvEcZMSyYhTj+5keEy/u65ATQUcIVNk8btJXlwQmWGjR3T85hw+UNdjpyN9UuT QB6g== lq4mr14381015vdb.21.1379162908170; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:48:28 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:48:28 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Moss fuel pump update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As I recall, when using the hand pump after a long sit I can tell a definite change in how it feels once I get the bowls full. Geo On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > I was lucky or right.. what ever. > The hand pump must stop working when the carbs are full because when I went > back down in the garage after dinner, the hand plunger worked again. > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 16:25:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4442040EBA for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A642140434 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77EFA0E6F for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:52:47 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Team.Net issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Still having some slow network problems, list mail may be seriously delayed, please be patient. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 23:52:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDE742846 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 23:52:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D52E40552 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lf1so4058220pab.10 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:58:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mjVLH8AuQybEcJF8oIqF6LNtpigUFsSflEHFqvaOuHY=; b=Tpn03MqIqqENWM4+mDYXlWvFKOQh4FyUjwbwm6jRYTd+KG8b9ptHrAjSJ0V7lcCt8S nohFhFttaQFwL8VwimoeKnbUpb9q9tJxmVZ3OBoIXAlL+BWrwOL0/Ar2vweaHBiMxkeC 3Wj6GB5DcLxSMbwxEmjq9fI0F58EKR/SK9q5pX1bqwykxw76ksJ/+zfbQ/M5A5tKA8qh aCgTGT6WuMYR70iNzoFbQAOCSs+jkxJfSOWJUS+cUp8RhonRS6HqXT+KV53zgOiWtf4d z0SS4FDbx+yEAFihmLEYB6kNyylY3cMGi4vex+ReKCCMVQeb+BMCJjmoCwb8p9WMQ1aI jkdQ== pa4mr393848pbc.117.1379213889974; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.101.10 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:58:09 -0400 From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Tr6 - no oil to rocker shaft (Long post) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings all: Spit boded GT6 w/ a 2.5L motor, about 80K miles on full rebuild, about 15K miles on head gasket (blown) & cam (several wiped lobes) replacement. A month ago one morning I noticed that there was no indicated oil pressure at hot idle. Above 2000 rpm oil pressure was just over 10psi/1000 rpm (lower than normal). I checked the oil level and listened for rod knock. Oil level was good and there was no rod knock so I drove it home (about 40 miles). The screw that retains the rocker shaft had backed out and starved the rockers downstream of oil. This is a phillips headed countersunk screw - I should have used lock-tite. I replaced the rocker shaft / rockers. The new rocker shaft had set screws in the ends instead of pressed in plugs. I went to remove the screws to make sure the inside of the rocker shaft was clean of machining debris. The set screws were only finger tight - beware if you are replacing a rocker shaft in the future to check for loose set screws! Now I am not getting oil to the new rocker shaft. Cold idle oil pressure is 80+ psi and hot idle is down to 8 to 10 psi (was about 20 PSI earlier) but with engine hot, at 2K rpm oil press is 45 psi (about the same as before). Oil is just oozing out of the rockers. Blipping the throttle to 2K rpm without the valve cover in place and there is no oil spray on the firewall. I removed the oil port plug in the head and started up the engine (cold) and less than a teaspoon came out in about 30 sec. The mechanical oil pressure gauge is tapped into the oil galley at the distributor. The oil to the head is fed via the cam at the rear most cam bearing (block was line bored and has Spit cam bearings). The cam meters out the oil that travels up to the head. Did the rear cam bearing get starved for oil when the rocker shaft screw came out? I am trying to predict the damage before I pull the engine to dismantle and inspect - no time to do so now. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 10:46:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F9640548 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s8.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s8.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A5840078 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:16:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL127-W52 ([65.55.34.8]) by col0-omc1-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:16:28 -0700 From: Dave Murphy To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:16:28 -0400 References: FILETIME=[2B114C40:01CEB21E] Subject: [TR] 2 Rubber Overriders Needed for 1976 TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Thursday someone hit me in the right rear, glancing off the big rubber overrider and the wrap around of the chrome bumber. The only damage to my car was the right rear overrider was scraped and visibly fractured in the center. It is obviously not going to withstand another such shunt and I'd like to replace it in preparation for the next one. Also when pushing the front of car sideways by the left front overider, while the car was on dolleys, the left front overrider came loose. It appears I ripped it internally from its mount and although it hasn't fallen off yet I'm afraid it could. It too is obviously not very functional. Does anyone have cosmetically & funcionally good right rear & left front rubber overriders for a '76 TR6 that they would like to sell me? -Dave Murphy, DTSC Dearborn Michigan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 10:48:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E9342716 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039FA4041E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2013 14:26:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.166] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2013 14:26:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2013 14:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 94161 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Sep 2013 14:26:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379255195; bh=i2gQuz/M2GeUzMqi1awUW3u5IPwXirX5ihMRPS9Gd70=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mL9QyediwKyETQIZpgrg5ms4DTxKBiDAKc/MLKILnoVaByWWsA4BzZVEb5xbE8qCTTgjCHnNUuDeAz6K+hpZ2x3l9PIEJTLHl4t0THXj5e0rDhdYCBU5E6IYsMpmlJ7e7TfZA26gukPzqTEaYlxa32Ard/ivAIpSJpKcZyJhaBU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n0M9VX9oYO1HfJSt3lMYyjqNQdHuDKdwPj5BxkIzVpzWCI6A75j213n6aPuOhDf/QhViyr8QfMMp9RrXrYxOt4l+MqbfTzXMOVLzbyiqlTKhiDjvoczlHg0Eo9Oq55Cbz/H0z+v/ElTfee/wuRzmI18phiCr9PThGecZmb7ANlE=; epHPbBDvqfnovaR1ne44_oq1SIDahuIbauGKlkYQsMDyrHpdg8u.ZCCZlKxb HCtgauCbv3iC773EXJVC7T.UQy1lmU764gklQjPvPs6Uq9SwgApDr76mUYq_ 0xPVpgfJPQ0IUdz1A8Y382xGjLoiiwxTfAetHtqo1CI1kOiJjGt7.Ay_TwKs 4HYEEOt9erdb0.Ri0FuGE8NC.QYksATBujFxjCQbiMep1r2t8uaBay9ZD6Aw pebhiwBY8wVC8nrAQ1ZxzhghiuaY1ZWEMs9EOhEP9xyP4lpvkRanO0awA5aP ipJmXzuvIBWgcM3DMXxXdrjhVrP6hAY0QnBMVnD7y5ulF4n9myJOGTbQ6SnO 8dcksH6mHtXycWx6ci3vRpE.OjhsjfPkCFY.kZeJGLF0UHYGY_pyyI5pvi7Y AZIdtpaRLWvfYETsRDLZk0eVwQkEs9quL4VUFU5s8o1m9wgFo2oiyhTp_Fs. M.543DkAc7LpratV5HkFuSPQTvl18P_yDN36cobctD.kZm0A1pB3mvOG6sWB HB0bOLdXcGFiblw.t5Va8v4ef4Vh1yEG0s.JebL.zpEi.3aMIY5syKoVyhJ8 kWM_HR7htmzmgacgkOgwIjVhgN_AVur2.ptBWp53LCB8LTm9D1gYy5DHpyEf T9t6TS4lL6Gv8Qthp2wqIYeAYfVSFxPO2qEZtuudtvy40YLBKR_Sujc84Avg kifA- Received: from [108.0.20.132] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:26:35 PDT QmlsbApiZWVuIHdhdGNoaW5nIGl0IGJvdGggZGF5cwp0aGFua3MgZm9yIHRoZSBsaW5rCmdyZWF0IHN0dWZmCkZyYW5rCgpGcm9tOiAid2JlZWNoQGZsYXNoLm5ldCIgPHdiZWVjaEBmbGFzaC5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogRnJpZGF5LCBTZXB0ZW1iZXIgMTMsIDIwMTMgODoyNiBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbVFJdIEZXOiBbbW9ndGFsazJdIEdvb2R3b29kIFJldml2YWwgTGl2ZSBTdHJlYW1pbmcKCgpMaXZlIHN0cmVhbSBmcm9tIEdvb2R3b29kLsKgIEp1c3Qgd2F0Y2hpbmcBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "wbeech@flash.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] FW: [mogtalk2] Goodwood Revival Live Streaming Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill been watching it both days thanks for the link great stuff Frank From: "wbeech@flash.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:26 AM Subject: [TR] FW: [mogtalk2] Goodwood Revival Live Streaming Live stream from Goodwood. Just watching a couple of Minis dicing with a couple of 1963 Ford Galaxie 500s. Interesting mix indeed. At 18:15 PM (GMT) everyone in the UK time zone should be able to watch live streaming of the Freddie March Memorial Race from Goodwood using the link below (featuring NOJ 393 and several other 100s Austin Healeys - NOJ 393 was restored by Steve Pike of Australia): http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/revival-live/revival-live.aspx Cheers, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 21:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D1406A9 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF4D4043F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130916010919.IRAM24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:09:19 -0400 Received: from UserPC ([68.191.32.172]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id Rd9J1m00k3ipaEU05d9JHi; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:09:19 -0400 a=DN5DLIPotNci2GIN2HnJgg==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=wl6mxkCt6QMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=8TNRzegMlAlE-eiFrwcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=DN5DLIPotNci2GIN2HnJgg==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1379107391.82209.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:09:17 -0400 Thread-Index: AQB+B4wODyeSws5ZBwohFTsB0hWaZpxo4tLw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Hood Hinges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net With a forward folding whole-hood assembly, I can't imagine that GT6 hinges would be close in design. I would think that hinges from the "big three" or other supporters of our hobby would work. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:23 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR6 Hood Hinges I bought a set of new unused TR6 hood hinges off of Ebay. When I went to install them they were like 1" too narrow to fit the hood. Is there another TR, maybe a TR4, TR250 or GT6, that uses a hinge similar to the TR6? -Bill Brewer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 21:22:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3156C4041D for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90661403A6 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:02:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W112 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:02:22 -0700 From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:02:21 -0400 FILETIME=[F2826760:01CEB349] Subject: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://youtu.be/bVcq5awD2o0 Above is a couple of laps of in-car video from the group 2 feature from Road America last Sunday in a Spitfire. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 23:04:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3097C403E3 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106C3403C7; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:41:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id S3h81m00M2QmmGk013h8lF; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:41:09 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "Triumph 6 Pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>, Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:36:55 -0500 Subject: [TR] very OT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net some folks who are enamored of these cars have launched a website. www.sunbeamvenezia.com there is one in the Dallas area I believe. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 23:28:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2044F4293E for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:28:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6124006E for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:44:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S2Pl1m0051GXsucAB4knAB; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:44:47 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S4in1m00T2yr1eL8U4inSn; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:42:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:42:47 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: marty sukey s=q20121106; t=1379393087; bh=pbqlsDV1WuFT8RDYGYEZjU4s2zySnjnfP+EeKYtddkY=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LWYQh+mFsNeuLqMHGAdzYCJsgOOakUWd7pLc/0zRat0onyIYMHY62cUvwfGHj1TIz nNTDwj1Wh8l0XUaOLcJgyld0mdQZvUlWovdqz1eF6UHSdT5gSM4y/vPbuWB6EFNjzL oUglnr3/xm8UeKE0f4lITZOvQLjRxNoKJMUr1lVK8PUStavoKNyTJ0Bq4Gt9P+/fmF Chd37qjQQYIqv1oA4bD88gkJv9g0W6RZk6eTsVFD2srSvhz+lBSznhwcdFaI+ehfwu 5d2xh+vqPArDUBK/GK1c+r0aDRR5PLelD+rS5bFjyjVGsQILZ3kXcWeAOS6Gwl3t2/ hKgpg2zAv9Hdw== Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be releasing some stills "real soon now". This working 40 hours a week is getting in the way of my play time! The concour is is up already: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/sets/72157635478068173/with/9695776137/ Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marty sukey" > To: "Triumph List" > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:02:21 PM > Subject: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America > http://youtu.be/bVcq5awD2o0 > > Above is a couple of laps of in-car video from the group 2 feature > from Road > America last Sunday in a Spitfire. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 06:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2B1403A7 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FE44035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fz6so6648026pac.31 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:50:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FnnS6BLckaOLU3yBqP0mCYojpOneahn7/UdJlfGObJ4=; b=CGMrxW4yJ8gNYON30H5XfUVxDnH07cVjM3PRY2QGxy6BRvltoABl2UQboBeJdqNwKP etMFtq3yt/wk6HmWVSXH+gFPXpSaYksDHVjwu43i9DmOXdk5ebf4jAIQ+oUJj7cLP0mp UvfKO211qYkAkt2z52SKyTOvVWi1l24NjcoX1/6cMh9nnJjUnzyBGqPiUuAhIP4G+2wb +q4EjtTruR+HoV/xJmMkNAeAeO1T/AB8sBpb7OdBK2hNo0S3vA69jO3o+Nyisu8eFMO0 cFpeEGl/SsmkVyGOyGdezouJNO92r5c+aYcLaElDbVezE63UjEcElOHdeblNgtwv/LNz 2y8A== it8mr33888892pbc.17.1379415008528; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.57.34 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:50:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <003201ceb24a$7c484c40$74d8e4c0$@gonschorr.de> <003e01ceb24d$5d9031c0$18b09540$@gonschorr.de> <91610845DD3143488B787EF576EE685C@athlon4200> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:50:08 -0400 From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just had to forward this post that came in on the Triumph Roadster list. It does indeed make one feel old :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:27 AM Subject: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap To: TRM1946-49@googlegroups.com ** I just received this from a friend.................... About an hour ago I drove through the car park of the Gleneagles Hotel and came across two young guys studying a map on the boot lid of an immaculate 1974 (N) TR6 with and open top. It transpired that the two guys in their early 30s had hired it for the day and were planning a trip in the Perthshire hills. As the conversation progressed they made the following comments. It is very stiff to steer It has a choke and I dont even know what a choke is or what it does It seems to have an overdrive .What IS that? The brakes arent very effective. Weve only driven 20 miles and my leg is sore as the clutch is stiff to press. Do you think theres something wrong with it? Having given some explanations about 1970s technology and advice on a possible route I left feeling very old and with a clear vision of the generation gap ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 08:04:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3629403DD for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BAF400A4; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id el20so4282796lab.26 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2Qsms6/MmCEx4qIF1FN1A6v3Lh0zxopNKx3zD/RJ2sQ=; b=nSX0Zt5Vk1sd1KqQtU28eUTjKJI02FKCKI9lDKzUkiqcUP+odukyrOHg0kf7rHe6T2 bpS1v7wgFpp0X5y0DrJMT+Lxn+TgPbU0PU9xah7vkiUr7BmjHeemo/8GBzqnljRiTOZp uOB4qfUWooJXOKssIArZ+B0mXdsJc6EdvEXDA1YktBI//DodZgv7DhtagKkmcthmWbM7 z3Dp8VtW/5t5MoHv81g+kshJX3aJHnIJQ0JtwcklJiU+tZtTnAyabB40xqWMf4yKuNB6 84g0DzgJckvmBPDIkhxPB29c7IjnJtGetwXq0xybZwvH+BvqTUf06yEsL70Lm3DoRoZ7 O0SA== Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <676EE375A4C34E66B3D4F8F770144113@Datsun> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:59:37 -0400 To: Triumph 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] very OT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At the Brits at the Beach in Wilmington, NC this weekend, there had to be more than 10 Alpines and Tigers in attendance. Never seen so many at a "normal" British car event in my life. Love the v8's - one or two had a more modern V6 - I understood they equal or exceed the power of the orignal v8s. Great cars and a really nice show. www.sunbeamvenezia.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 08:54:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2B3403C8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.232.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540F24009B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-67-187-54-83.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [67.187.54.83]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MT900JX3YQ5SMB0@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:54:07 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-17_06:2013-09-17,2013-09-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1309170057 From: Anthony Cascio Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:59:23 -0400 To: "triumphs-request@autox.team.net car discussion" Subject: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? By the way for TR3A. Thanks Tony Cascio 58 TR3A TS27093L 65 TR4A on a TR4 frame CTC64651LO allegrorover@mac.com www.triumphowners.com/1489 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 09:21:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7C7403DE for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29EA40356 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SEfz1m00B1Y3wxoA2FFnPw; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:15:47 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SFFm1m00l2xZMJ48bFFmtM; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:15:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:15:46 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: bkahler1@gmail.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1379430947; bh=qBizopn4TD2XJRuH1IBQPdIL6PMoywU5ru/++UZVcws=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=FCnCs1OJMTh78ABjuZXZOGjNSxYXqWZApti1VCXY8pT+EKMGX2giqM6bonhrCJIk2 65s9Q9dyh+wTvin5xRkcOX6tersRP2eL9YqHe3MR7XGprU57j6Arlmmn1Vmqd261DB 8vI++5pl3MnlaGqu161705ZCBylBs04m2xdw/blDDZ3NtrmVbd0fI3vyeZ1EfLrvHz 3zP9fdgC87pIBl+KgadBEypJcFo9w59tzkoH3KzFg5kzV23b+HoYzW4WC/WWQODN2/ ste1VpS9y7s28ysJ4CYWzgdWq0Uj9zWeohp1ANrVzDSrLkD9LCj/nvDLcqKuNGb8vS DlfQToPXouXpg== Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You needed to take the wheel and give them rides in it to show them the ropes. Original Message=================== I just had to forward this post that came in on the Triumph Roadster list. It does indeed make one feel old :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:27 AM Subject: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap To: TRM1946-49@googlegroups.com ** I just received this from a friend.................... About an hour ago I drove through the car park of the Gleneagles Hotel and came across two young guys studying a map on the boot lid of an immaculate 1974 (N) TR6 with and open top. It transpired that the two guys in their early 30s had hired it for the day and were planning a trip in the Perthshire hills. As the conversation progressed they made the following comments. It is very stiff to steer It has a choke and I dont even know what a choke is or what it does It seems to have an overdrive .What IS that? The brakes arent very effective. Weve only driven 20 miles and my leg is sore as the clutch is stiff to press. Do you think theres something wrong with it? Having given some explanations about 1970s technology and advice on a possible route I left feeling very old and with a clear vision of the generation gap ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 11:59:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7868403E8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:59:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A017B40357 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:59:14 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=XTCk2OXskGYA:10 a=QbV5rDQN-81J3fH11QEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55016] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A7/E6-02184-96898325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:59:05 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Anthony Cascio'" , "'triumphs-request@autox.team.net car discussion'" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:59:06 -0700 thread-index: Ac6ztdOMJ4Wu1djEQvmWdxpkUNUmywAGNnug Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? > By the way for TR3A. No, but I will throw in a plug for Cunifer brake lines, made by Automec and available from Moss. Cunifer is a special alloy developed specifically for hydraulic brake lines, with high corrosion resistance and DOT approval. It is also a whole bunch easier to work with than either SS or the original terne-plated seamless steel. Assuming you are talking about the hard brake lines; not the hoses made with PTFE tubing and a SS braid over the outside. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 12:04:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13540441 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:04:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7B4009B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:00:13 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=TLzcEPqzu7x5c40RqrObZEs8pUqS2xxoSmVCLu6BQNvtmsr8MNQ/kqEIVdWwc+PK; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.109] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VLzZF-0002GC-4d for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:00:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:00:05 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Radiator Fan switch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I suspect my radiator fan switch is not working as it should. Is there a way to test it? I put the old one and a new one in a cup of hot water - not sure of the temp, but I used the hot beverage setting on the microwave, then went another 30 seconds, so I thought it be over 180. Neither of the switches showed continuity. But now for my biggest problem. When I tried to take the old switch out of the radiator, the bung came out with it. I am assuming that is something a radiator shop should be able to fix. If I could seal it and get to the shop would they be able to fix it in the car? Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 13:19:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B440403EB for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:19:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21914032C for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 19:18:43 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 19:18:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 19:18:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379445523; bh=A0sHJxuMZvqG8sHCMcLGl+bGaJq7uenrJ+pBzWVea9A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=0rjAoHzaGqtFuI1GeZJ2sb60VBrnHrYx4ytzNmLNNQgsCydu5slgArbszNl4m9EL/TWKmk4bjUXcgfZ3vd4QyHobb4F8qmbgvp4+Eg2IqSK9u0nYe4sRarglDzSj9IvHTV4JQ8Hm5BByXa4T53/ZWosYhp/DfpmWR3vZpxCU4yw= YkAeNOpeUELwOI6vk2fNo6mUnjAhczWPKIMKSERQRzRpRDGUbKF_1IRdeg3r 3Tz4wm7WRH4lcgS5B63ZA_q3b_v.fj01R3mcJCZk5hYv52yf_h21eqD8P66L D1sCjxQwDaE8UCxgBv9xKmbSeXD9wnvfUFRg7c8p_l7iFHRdTZ4ct.8NnQ5o nrt0zyK8vqyJKpcca5mNosTExT9fqEbiwmcis122OfwYuwC7cbNmPdBxRGWE s7z6Hji3LScjDADy0767Eo4SZRZ5qse22vcmzF89nzGEQPeEVVK26yazaiU4 ztf7X5e4vr3Zcxr97Ih_sazaasnEa1mG3nHTt9SKUzgXCigl2uNnbjZI6xNv Av3C7AMF4fnMoHQNTjUhjQ3djKWJU.G4yczFzgpY8OARG.BOSSsp_.xIg9F6 x9VG7473kn3m2LQ91roLoiTdiq930Ueep9JPdYT9iiMmOqbDEnNFOdCcUtDk pnR8EC95Kg9Vu4bUSjbdUkly2GmmCXm9ze_zocXvG9VWb1tzOMjd6cOtd7uY l52IqI5wo85Jyr9XzoglQI.v7UnvmsRJ6.UYgLeqvzyy6.Q60azbQyQyGLz2 pyP.Hq3n8oCWZOxMV_mU0fZY9VVwsKsodp1zLppyLy.c- smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2013 12:18:42 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:18:44 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6z2rkWINrub6UpTN66s9gmLJ8QQw== Subject: [TR] Idle Problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Have just spent 1/2 the day trying to resolve the idle, or lack thereof, on the TR3B project. Engine is in the chassis only as the body is still off at the painter. Carbs freshly re-built, new electric fuel pump installed, timing set, vacuum line attached and advance checked and working. Starts and runs great, but will not idle down below around 1500 RPM. After that it will just start to slowly stumble then die. Always starts right back up. I have adjusted the jets 1-2 & 3 flats each way with no discernable difference. What else should I check? Many thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 14:16:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82F1403B1 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEA24035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:16:46 -0600 (MDT) a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:17 a=iRRDuIpxfTgA:10 a=KfYLXsKEmnsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Qter1V0gRGoA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=ca2g1VIN0LNXz8e-8_4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:117 Received: from [67.249.131.108] ([67.249.131.108:42153] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DF/69-02184-6A8B8325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:16:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:16:48 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: bill_beecher@flash.net References: <8F4CE2FA26644CA99C2EA16E9A1C4D26@bboffice> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Idle Problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Sounds like it could be a vacuum leak. Maybe try to spray some wd40 where the carbs are attached and the intake manifold to see if you can detect a leak. Also check the dash pots to insure they are filled with 20W or ATF. Make sure the carb pistons are not sticking. I use that blue gasket stuff in addition to the stock gaskets when attaching both the intake manifold and the carbs to the manifold. All 3 engines purr at around 750 to 850 RPM when warm. Bob On 09/17/2013 03:18 PM, bill_beecher@flash.net wrote: > Have just spent 1/2 the day trying to resolve the idle, or lack thereof, on > the TR3B project. Engine is in the chassis only as the body is still off at > the painter. Carbs freshly re-built, new electric fuel pump installed, > timing set, vacuum line attached and advance checked and working. > > Starts and runs great, but will not idle down below around 1500 RPM. After > that it will just start to slowly stumble then die. Always starts right > back up. I have adjusted the jets 1-2 & 3 flats each way with no > discernable difference. > > What else should I check? > > > Many thanks, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "Keep Calm and Carry On ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 14:29:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE4C403D9 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com (mail-yh0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082CE4035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id v1so3017502yhn.11 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ELj6rTyLCd8pln4/zSpLWr5kLhXPQw80vUw3QrBenso=; b=vMl0fQkmGyrnPN72wHj7RsLLOPAL97qGbl0Epi5c9s9Qc18zffZuZQg7LJzqZJydNm SKu5HUk8v505MU6aeYcTi7iCyC9yWsKbXX2iCt4INOWpMga35J6vr1w7gH+cKXgrVmkh g+U84LLoligrSnQj3XVZDe/wEU3iEXGFCZqNoX8pnMRRZP8pTioJEBZgW7Ak4CFSS+S/ DFOYgGChFgziugSRAipoREvliZ8Hk8srXldj/7yVFg9opx44dJ9/tVWiOZjFKnKbaoZb VdpIvZdpNOW+y0nP1lLNd8uM/0mvt3ig3QzdUukyvOxWx8+BPDxhuVqe0asKmB0qRoB5 DGaQ== p80mr2155097yhm.176.1379449385009; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w42sm48743137yhb.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:23:01 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8F4CE2FA26644CA99C2EA16E9A1C4D26@bboffice> Subject: Re: [TR] Idle Problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/17/13 12:18 PM, bill_beecher@flash.net wrote: > Have just spent 1/2 the day trying to resolve the idle, or lack thereof, on > the TR3B project. Engine is in the chassis only as the body is still off at > the painter. Carbs freshly re-built, new electric fuel pump installed, > timing set, vacuum line attached and advance checked and working. > > Starts and runs great, but will not idle down below around 1500 RPM. After > that it will just start to slowly stumble then die. Always starts right > back up. I have adjusted the jets 1-2 & 3 flats each way with no > discernable difference. > > What else should I check? Check the fuel pressure. A lot of electric pumps produce a pressure that will overcome the SU float valve. You want the pressure to be about 2-1/2 to 3 lbs. The common 7 PSI pumps tend not to work well with SUs or Webbers TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 14:49:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4DC403EB for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608774003F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:48:51 -0600 (MDT) a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:17 a=iRRDuIpxfTgA:10 a=KfYLXsKEmnsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=Qter1V0gRGoA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=L4wABoox-iXtCQ92bcIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=LE9yjw1uqygA:10 a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:117 Received: from [67.249.131.108] ([67.249.131.108:42766] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7F/21-21526-B20C8325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:48:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:48:53 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" References: <8F4CE2FA26644CA99C2EA16E9A1C4D26@bboffice> <5238BA25.3010805@gmail.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Idle Problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good point TeriAnn. A reliable pressure regulator is a must for electronic fuel pumps. I guess I figured or forgot. I have the Facet pump on all 3 of my TRs with regulators. Bob On 09/17/2013 04:23 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 9/17/13 12:18 PM, bill_beecher@flash.net wrote: >> Have just spent 1/2 the day trying to resolve the idle, or lack >> thereof, on >> the TR3B project. Engine is in the chassis only as the body is still >> off at >> the painter. Carbs freshly re-built, new electric fuel pump installed, >> timing set, vacuum line attached and advance checked and working. >> Starts and runs great, but will not idle down below around 1500 >> RPM. After >> that it will just start to slowly stumble then die. Always starts right >> back up. I have adjusted the jets 1-2 & 3 flats each way with no >> discernable difference. >> What else should I check? > Check the fuel pressure. A lot of electric pumps produce a pressure > that will overcome the SU float valve. You want the pressure to be > about 2-1/2 to 3 lbs. > > The common 7 PSI pumps tend not to work well with SUs or Webbers > > TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 15:00:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953E4403BB for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBFE4009A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTA00MDYFI3DV01@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:56:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "'Anthony Cascio'" , "'triumphs-request@autox.team.net car discussion'" References: <17472AB6-3960-471A-97A7-04E07BC97472@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:56:26 -0400 Thread-index: AQEm2vjAmZqScJ/pSOWWiH8S0T3bMZsaGpVQ Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ted Schumacher - TSI in Ohio - don't have info handy - but highly recommend >From my mobile -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Anthony Cascio Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:59 AM To: triumphs-request@autox.team.net car discussion Subject: [TR] brake lines List, Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? By the way for TR3A. Thanks Tony Cascio 58 TR3A TS27093L 65 TR4A on a TR4 frame CTC64651LO allegrorover@mac.com www.triumphowners.com/1489 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 15:18:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E4D403FC for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A504035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:17:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SKta1m0021eYJf8A8MHooX; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:17:48 +0000 Received: from Dell ([67.188.0.29]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SMHn1m00i0dYjAz01MHnJ9; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 21:17:47 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'Brad Kahler'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <003201ceb24a$7c484c40$74d8e4c0$@gonschorr.de> <003e01ceb24d$5d9031c0$18b09540$@gonschorr.de> <91610845DD3143488B787EF576EE685C@athlon4200> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:18:09 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6zo3S+aHggrUH8TrKYy3K5D7eqsgAR6JIA Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1379452668; bh=6ExvZiA7K2zXLK6/0k24BfgTVKDgJVudCOQK2H1XO9Y=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XkmjCVThl1Y3DH/4jjQDHWxGVA9E5lcryQEtTBne+CH41Xf5uMo0svNZS5kqiiFFq J5RFWGwmHgUsBMZTabMIIQxSp/KyW1eB902FjYTvaQ6bDpIx5LK9IoTbVMHrn5R6ga 6rJMxVm+9eZsM0MGKG7AYMXMc22mHmZaPxLOr9mLVkKEHJa6rO7gc1RIAw9NSOVRF2 g02BDASD3OXm7K2nz1ezINc+XtUYEtRnZkdOhf3uY8RyunLOU/kcz/S5pnCD0F1Gy3 Anp/CTUKRVSwbLPJoO2zJGQ1vyFwgo5lssLbOpFdFgRIxttTf1vHrOqTbkQq4pv/Sb e6J+CpbThILCg== Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a related vein, there was an interesting question in the Car Talk column in Sunday's paper, it's on their web site at http://www.cartalk.com/content/today-recreating-road-trip I liked their answer - mostly. Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:50 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap I just had to forward this post that came in on the Triumph Roadster list. It does indeed make one feel old :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:27 AM Subject: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap To: TRM1946-49@googlegroups.com ** I just received this from a friend.................... About an hour ago I drove through the car park of the Gleneagles Hotel and came across two young guys studying a map on the boot lid of an immaculate 1974 (N) TR6 with and open top. It transpired that the two guys in their early 30s had hired it for the day and were planning a trip in the Perthshire hills. As the conversation progressed they made the following comments. It is very stiff to steer It has a choke and I dont even know what a choke is or what it does It seems to have an overdrive .What IS that? The brakes arent very effective. Weve only driven 20 miles and my leg is sore as the clutch is stiff to press. Do you think theres something wrong with it? Having given some explanations about 1970s technology and advice on a possible route I left feeling very old and with a clear vision of the generation gap ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 16:47:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABEC403E4 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:47:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5089640323 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:40:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 471177010B0C1 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 158A9E000081 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:40:40 -0400 (EDT) References: <17472AB6-3960-471A-97A7-04E07BC97472@mac.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.48) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:40:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:40:39 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379457640; bh=VlEuKVXKpy0MAbs4Nw/7ls/XTVmdq7M0rqx+MlftLeY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lcR8HAitjA6UEvFlHW3ijE7Cy9yzVaruRaLAuKDEuMPCBpsm1GIUwmpk96TX1gLC2 Gb/6C968LE0HHhTu+eVICI63BNFNVyJqFQGcJzT++XpjHqgZ8Lh4vP/3O+b3f9QCun /Mk6fSHlnIU1J2O7pH/B4UKJE4DK8D0YLNHIUf9s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c75238da685e41 Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you are looking for SS hard line I recommend Classic Tube http://www.classictube.com/ I put a set in my car and they mostly fit. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Cascio List, Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? By the way for TR3A. Thanks Tony Cascio 58 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 17:33:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01EB403E4 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E489040042 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:29:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTA00LH4MLJ5AY0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:29:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: References: <17472AB6-3960-471A-97A7-04E07BC97472@mac.com> <8D0820E11C09419-1B8C-39DCC@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:29:41 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQEm2vjAmZqScJ/pSOWWiH8S0T3bMQM6tQYPmwBvsUA= Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net They are also great for the hard gas lines for the tr3 (the ones under the hood) C -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Massey Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:41 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines If you are looking for SS hard line I recommend Classic Tube http://www.classictube.com/ I put a set in my car and they mostly fit. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Cascio List, Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? By the way for TR3A. Thanks Tony Cascio 58 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 17:33:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13734042E for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC8F40325 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id kp13so7481155pab.35 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=svqO9MAxg10K83RuLGFYfYNMYM+llwKLu9ybS+EsMoY=; b=SKSdig4stTpf4FdSNlonH8qPc2t19K2ot6gLRbPgHoJtVgqtVoK2hYk+CFJ2g1tZx3 7/4f041m+13dseV4CoTNOyGFE4r6RUom5ZWMVA4QqX81MGBSRTVMBZ8jbXVGDr+Ibli4 +qj9L8SAvc8GOCXM9c/raKLSpuwwGG0Ljs5pqYF/+B+dhi/l7B8urUn90KWMARTL17QY TRBzJmS94iDBID3X2MjF/4wjNdYWm81y6/BIQS6W38W53wSn0xlI82kDzUNJoBqLx5sq 6VQXKqegvjxgS8xwoJAy35oXQg7qNjG62umZ1THqXeRHdLUxTWPcLlRH7QEteqFqz7e9 a6/Q== zp1mr37832135pbc.95.1379460644343; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.153.103 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <17472AB6-3960-471A-97A7-04E07BC97472@mac.com> <8D0820E11C09419-1B8C-39DCC@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 00:30:44 +0100 From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: Dave Massey Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I may be a little late with my contribution. But here goes: Here in the UK we are still able to use copper brake piping which I believe is illegal in the US. I personally agree with the US stance on this subject, it is just too soft and will corrode easily. As an MOT (UK annual roadworthy test) tester I have seen many crushed pipes and very green corroded ones. I always use the cupro nickle tube, branded Kunifer in UK, and always make up my own using a Snap-On flaring kit and a mini pipe bender. It is the only way I know of getting the fit and look just right. As for stainless steel piping I think this is overkill and as an aside too hard to flare with most kits available. Or are you reffering to the use of stainless flexi hoses? these are a good idea as they help prevent a spongy pedal and are very durable. But they stand out like a sore thumb and are hardly original, not for me unfortunately. I often wonder why all car manufacturers never fitted cuporo nickle brake pipes instead of steel when the car was new. It would save a lot of dangerous cars on the road a few years down the line. Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O Wales UK On 17 September 2013 23:40, Dave Massey wrote: > If you are looking for SS hard line I recommend Classic Tube > http://www.classictube.com/ > > I put a set in my car and they mostly fit. > > > > > > Dave Massey > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Cascio > > > List, > Can anyone recommend a vendor for stainless steel brake lines????? > By the way for TR3A. > Thanks > > > > Tony Cascio > 58 TR3A > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 18:04:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB19F40404 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:04:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE0F403A5 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [216.223.232.123] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id fc2200057a2bc0f0; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:59:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:59:40 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: ADRIAN DIX-DYER References: <17472AB6-3960-471A-97A7-04E07BC97472@mac.com> <8D0820E11C09419-1B8C-39DCC@webmail-m290.sysops.aol.com> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/17/2013 5:30 PM, ADRIAN DIX-DYER wrote: > I may be a little late with my contribution. But here goes: > > Here in the UK we are still able to use copper brake piping which I believe > is illegal in the US. > I personally agree with the US stance on this subject, it is just too soft > and will corrode easily. As an MOT (UK annual roadworthy test) tester I > have seen many crushed pipes and very green corroded ones. > > I always use the cupro nickle tube, branded Kunifer in UK, and always make > up my own using a Snap-On flaring kit and a mini pipe bender. It is the > only way I know of getting the fit and look just right. > > As for stainless steel piping I think this is overkill and as an aside too > hard to flare with most kits available. > > Or are you reffering to the use of stainless flexi hoses? these are a good > idea as they help prevent a spongy pedal and are very durable. But they > stand out like a sore thumb and are hardly original, not for me > unfortunately. > > > I often wonder why all car manufacturers never fitted cuporo nickle brake > pipes instead of steel when the car was new. It would save a lot of > dangerous cars on the road a few years down the line. > > I don't recommend using braided stainless for all lines. The braided stuff has just a bit of diameter change under pressure. It's not really noticeable for very short runs, such as replacing the rubber hoses, but for full runs throughout, the difference in the pedal is noticeable (had an associate who used to run FV, and he thought braided lines throughout might be an improvement, until the pedal went to the floor the first time under hard pedal pressure). Further, the braided line _must_ be clipped exceedingly well with rubber-coated clips. Otherwise, the small fibers tend to abrade and wear through with vibration. Trust me--saw a lot of this in buses where the customer specified such tubing. And once the braiding goes, all that's left is the Teflon liner. And with system pressures as high as in brakes, the result is the equivalent of an aortic aneurysm. The shame is that there are advanced materials fabric-reinforced synthetic rubber hoses that are even stronger than braided stainless/Teflon hoses, and much more abrasion-resistant, but they must be custom-made, and are therefore rather expensive. As for not using Cu-Ni-Fe tubing, it's just a matter of production costs. Mild steel is cheap, forms well and generally lasts through the warranty period. That's just the way manufacturing is today--if it doesn't cost the manufacturer anything out of warranty reserve, then it doesn't get changed. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 19:11:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6294403B9 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93340323 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=4V66tZ2Nh6sA:10 a=Xml_YzKb1FMB-FTo0jwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=PweZF_D09V4A:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:33337] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 37/65-21526-FADF8325; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:11:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 1:11:11 +0000 From: Randall To: Triumphs , Roger Elliott Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Fan switch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I put the old one and a new one in a cup of hot water - not sure of the > temp, but I used the hot beverage setting on the microwave, then went > another 30 seconds, so I thought it be over 180. > > Neither of the switches showed continuity. A little poking around seems to suggest that 180 isn't enough. Only rating I found was for "92-87 degrees", which I take to mean that it will not close until almost 200F (92C) and then stay on until below 190F (87C). > If I could seal it and get to the shop would they be able to fix it in > the car? Very unlikely, I would say. They will want to dip the whole radiator in their cleaning tank, to get clean metal to solder to; and then paint it afterwards. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 19:20:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC40403D8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:20:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35034006D for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:15:25 -0600 (MDT) a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:17 a=6htYASBar5sA:10 a=EFr97hgJNB8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=iwvC6RQYvYQA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tyJefZTAAAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=9i4_dvPcxcY15yBrGrYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Bm6qEjDGwGEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:117 Received: from [108.167.8.138] ([108.167.8.138:58126] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F4/C4-28548-1AEF8325; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:15:14 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <003201ceb24a$7c484c40$74d8e4c0$@gonschorr.de><003e01ceb24d$5d9031c0$18b09540$@gonschorr.de><91610845DD3143488B787EF576EE685C@athlon4200> <002b01ceb3eb$69027be0$3b0773a0$@net> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:15:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I liked most of the answer too, don't agree about always avoiding highways with speeds of 65 or above, while interstate travel is not that much fun in a TR, if it is in good shape it can easily cruise at 75 with or without O/D, the back roads are more scenic and adventurous, but there are times when you just can't logically avoid the freeway, and the TRs can handle it. Greg Lemon -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kinderlehrer" Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:18 PM To: "'Brad Kahler'" ; "'Triumphs'" Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap > In a related vein, there was an interesting question in the Car Talk > column > in Sunday's paper, it's on their web site at > http://www.cartalk.com/content/today-recreating-road-trip > > I liked their answer - mostly. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:50 AM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap > > I just had to forward this post that came in on the Triumph Roadster list. > > It does indeed make one feel old :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:27 AM > Subject: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap > To: TRM1946-49@googlegroups.com > > > ** > I just received this from a friend.................... > > > About an hour ago I drove through the car park of the Gleneagles Hotel and > came across two young guys studying a map on the boot lid of an immaculate > 1974 (N) TR6 with and open top. > > It transpired that the two guys in their early 30s had hired it for the > day > and were planning a trip in the Perthshire hills. As the conversation > progressed they made the following comments. > > It is very stiff to steer > > It has a choke and I dont even know what a choke is or what it does > > It seems to have an overdrive .What IS that? > > The brakes arent very effective. > > Weve only driven 20 miles and my leg is sore as the clutch is stiff to > press. Do you think theres something wrong with it? > > Having given some explanations about 1970s technology and advice on a > possible route I left feeling very old and with a clear vision of the > generation gap > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 19:21:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08CB40436 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:21:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D28240323 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:18:38 -0600 (MDT) a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:17 a=6htYASBar5sA:10 a=EFr97hgJNB8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=iwvC6RQYvYQA:10 a=qZhLOtulOGGts3GGCjsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=h8PrT3vPnE0A:10 a=WUbXDUgaFTcA:10 a=mjOTKp/PtVTUFgI+1ai7rw==:117 Received: from [108.167.8.138] ([108.167.8.138:58136] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 92/78-01080-46FF8325; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:18:29 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: References: <639825097.1596462.1379430946929.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:18:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The other generational gap thing, surprised they were looking at a paper map, probably trying to figure out how to use it. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 19:36:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FC3403E4 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407174035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:32:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i3so4657103vbh.40 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:32:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HvDwEEK2QSQnvsh3CmmWWLSfvDayieE6lOKG/38Ue28=; b=X/Sqk1IieBumHJwmzcBVpU6jaC0RZVjpOnN1Cf9SFlRma60sic1YarZgVz9tTD7M7R YxXwPynDEEXjWDmOUV9zti5uge0AxFEve2sj3ixme6C7XuAbHa3ZobAFo9spOzWaEb4g I006KqY+6s5fGuj7xRSOiUxC1lpdwTvevW4dGZdj1j0GGvbhOTs91Q2f+UykQwXqntIU vzTQuQHrCy9qlupKAEKdcFX8u4c5wB8cJpAbzP6EfUOqW6D9bX114MigWGoxHs2/dQ36 Bo7aHd62UVNOQvt5SkcbI8dlahB5G1imlpo0Rk9qc6dMG+rU97z12prBTCfY78QSZM+Z n1AA== cz5mr3246429vdb.30.1379467955297; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:32:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <639825097.1596462.1379430946929.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <0066809CBB4F493EA35D5512FD87818A@livingroompc> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:32:35 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We live in a remote area with no cell service and a couple of 20somethings who had car trouble asked to use our phone. It's a rotary (dial) phone. The young woman picked up the receiver correctly and extended her index finger -- and then she was stumped. She had probably seen someone do this in an old movie but she wasn't really sure where the finger went or what you did when it got there. Yeah, amusing but also a grim reminder. Geo On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > The other generational gap thing, surprised they were looking at a paper > map, probably trying to figure out how to use it. Greg Lemon > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 19:36:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8CF4052D for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889B74035A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 01:33:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.60] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 01:33:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp211.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 01:33:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379467994; bh=836noajyaeP+AR6Tk1joG2rN08SBSLfcEjA9P7TrOrU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=t+8EQyi5H9MDWVaPFP3WxJY26sa4Oxk2Pw6oPTfFXT0nRnnWEF+jS6NVooSlRw+GLU4vAhuqb7X49dcmgxSDKBIr98K+jwzkKpKjmaLCErZV0myftLGWvcpu08iYz9x6FwTZn7z1ujuvIRQjrSSs5uJYR9bJvkYhrkoO5ITOgrk= VUeFee7WiW41eWKuvVemtmU8_P9hlZAkodjtKDEKbe6Tr3jx39PYZoKYr022 J7DcSqAxe7fHz5uVeUs85u9MI5wDOr.LjaouZJVaVc0ahvbHO6jBltGHsnp. 2ASvyf8JO3Ttn4WPCQOiYoRnYc..ZTwUiTY_xnZh.ud9SZaXZ3JpiOwqscR8 93ANKWHUh8v3K1OGqEElqXmtz.WkJWDT2QjcXiYggQRHWYqEY6kMnfJa8eT9 BJrqueB3XynMC10OHosGLRUfLsw9d7YEok46sgWHGHwQsDknvRBNxMpr.g4L 5u8UC5BGvfCmMzEzFfbVV89VQyaFqPrmnjqHDMlNYsgUdVpWmYUWscfe3NYd PKlGQ3xFVzn4UnZ0Ce7SpUbZtNV_WQZG4kSqVkLSOia7vu5r67q5OF.TQ.oU eloGOCpdrmASUFD2EYi1PKUlLJ8L8CutKLJoH_J0wMd2Gw1GwKIQoHTCD6f7 DmFA46iUmfIVyZ9ayDiYcReynawSfHgPmpaVk_JUu8_VzWC7x8KwcWl.iU5f D4j1C.Mx_WP9owMdVUI2NBEJ6PXzvrnN_rUaiho2qIGmZNZ7FMXPnfRLukQ- - smtp211.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2013 18:33:14 -0700 PDT References: <8F4CE2FA26644CA99C2EA16E9A1C4D26@bboffice> <5238BA25.3010805@gmail.com> From: WBEECH Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 20:32:44 -0500 To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Idle Problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn, Checked the pressure, 5 psi, so changed out the pump and all seems normal again. Had a small leak around the rod , but it must be around the bushing as the rod is fitted with double o-ring's on both sides. Thanks, Bill Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" wrote: > On 9/17/13 12:18 PM, bill_beecher@flash.net wrote: >> Have just spent 1/2 the day trying to resolve the idle, or lack thereof, on >> the TR3B project. Engine is in the chassis only as the body is still off at >> the painter. Carbs freshly re-built, new electric fuel pump installed, >> timing set, vacuum line attached and advance checked and working. >> Starts and runs great, but will not idle down below around 1500 RPM. After >> that it will just start to slowly stumble then die. Always starts right >> back up. I have adjusted the jets 1-2 & 3 flats each way with no >> discernable difference. >> What else should I check? > Check the fuel pressure. A lot of electric pumps produce a pressure that will overcome the SU float valve. You want the pressure to be about 2-1/2 to 3 lbs. > > The common 7 PSI pumps tend not to work well with SUs or Webbers > > TeriAnn > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 05:41:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9FE403DE for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA5A403D4 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:40:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 27A097006334C for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EFA6BE000081 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:40:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:40:42 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379504443; bh=DOoxtyD4gQPMLzCzwh5REjTJ9JIt3r5Veh6yw2+XiEI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tlZXAcVHS5QuD99In08CsSdgsFvN8VCYLIiLx1rzo1HHXRw47wJb3l+/lY+Cq+R4a uzio4V0OrRGhBfjKNNN2+5ZgK6PJZ+VCi8ICGnW2Q0cdj75zI6hX437v4AYh3nNCZg BfNhAJS7zQxVwDVHodP7YJ7X0nRD8USjwwXgUndM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5239913a24f3 Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, but pricey. I can see spending what they want on brake lines but their fuel lines are about as much as the brake lines and I can't see why. Dave In a message dated 9/17/2013 6:32:51 PM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > They are also great for the hard gas lines for the tr3 (the ones under > the > hood) > C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Massey > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:41 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] brake lines > > If you are looking for SS hard line I recommend Classic Tube > http://www.classictube.com/ > > I put a set in my car and they mostly fit. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 10:14:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBFF40404 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2065E403E6 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 16:11:54 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.71] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 16:11:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2013 16:11:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 35258 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2013 16:11:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379520713; bh=sI8Rr4wB34EgM23MfHkHGeoPBCF/h9bPnPTMB48ZUX4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ruB3wQAudHUKHF9CnAjABZZBE2CoPrbNR+WLBl33CvP/WTpKPWl5huzmS/Ul6Pc1cq+cWnVh0zdeHxVATqd4Sd4FQ3G1LjDZx8ZpcrM49LfEmdpUUqmmuiXc9ITMsA3IpRVz3DY/iz1iW4AOvMbNko4ViBUOVpJaHOQehpVXafU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gp7z4FON0HCK0o+M/z1jKlJcIdDfL9oY1zE2rSCsKG68q87Rdp7tiC6ozjBqBF/AWPhPjKOIoQ1h7mWRPX3w1zsaBvJobJZzsWm6IhecgcPZSwAM8iqPNwHBgRN2xBEFPfKWYQkdElW9u4hAUIyJ+WtDf6U0J9Eq2E1qKFThjeY=; VknkU_M9lq9Mu5lbBayQoZhNQSCUtOOXcOdwTjDNBggrcp8w7GRBIGX2qRs9 b2E9.zsz6WTi_gM3UDZgga6.Gp0z4VDuiUHpykPyHowI3WOgECcyvk6I64t4 BeVbPGiNvmEHXQuH8BQJhvM3I0yBusIR7T3S89K7NGy_Kiz3rOpXYy6Ru.6Y bP6Edp2NrErHeSveqgJPrlcUWrSArUh5yUrQ_xqfA979g8lRN2xggR95lBuu Y_kMXaf9zmk6evxx4WVu8yD3Bjjxxr2xQKtcrV1OA2uckC.gOgESFz5MQeqd Kmu2raF20ZnyLoPXEQV.yhmSUUelnaro.K262.AuH0NOZSYQUs5aztUzZiwa Syxt6ZH8QsQKdDwYbapRmqPR3vw1n2hocN5TjL15wT5pFUstat9OA50wbFo5 9QVbOnqlodMSgRphl9dzX4C9UqiDI0D8qyTP2a7OP6qBrPd2YpoAuaypl9sO BFJrdU1jwDWoYneOEveKYT8cJacen7jKeGQcEafdea8cZrYy8QZ8S_9pi7.d n9Etlbc09oYcKN83ppwqbIg-- Received: from [2.121.238.248] by web171904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:11:53 BST RG9lc24ndCBzYXkgbXVjaCBmb3IgdGhlIHJlbnRhbCBjb21wYW55IHRoYXQgcmVsZWFzZWQgdGhlIGNhciB3aXRob3V0IGdpdmluZyB0aGUgaGlyZXJzIGEgYnJpZWYgaW5zdHJ1Y3Rpb24gY291cnNlLiBVc3VhbCBCcml0aXNoIGF0dGl0dWRlIG9mIGdyYWIgdGhlIG1vbmV5IGFuZCBsZXQgdGhlIGN1c3RvbWVyIGdvIGhhbmcgLSBvciBiZWluZyBTY290bGFuZCwgcGVyaGFwcyB0aGUgcmVudGVyIHdhcyB0b28gcGFyYWx5dGljIHRvIHRhbGs_CgoKSm9ubWFjCgpQUyBBbmQgSSdtIFNjb3RzIHRvbyA6KQoKRnIBMAEBAQE- References: <639825097.1596462.1379430946929.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:11:53 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "bkahler1@gmail.com" , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Doesn't say much for the rental company that released the car without giving the hirers a brief instruction course. Usual British attitude of grab the money and let the customer go hang - or being Scotland, perhaps the renter was too paralytic to talk? Jonmac PS And I'm Scots too :) From: "pethier@comcast.net" >To: bkahler1@gmail.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 16:15 >Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap > > >You needed to take the wheel and give them rides in it to show them the ropes. > > > >Original Message=================== > >I just had to forward this post that came in on the Triumph Roadster list. > >It does indeed make one feel old :) > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:27 AM >Subject: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap >To: TRM1946-49@googlegroups.com > > >** >I just received this from a friend.................... > > >About an hour ago I drove through the car park of the Gleneagles Hotel and >came across two young guys studying a map on the boot lid of an immaculate >1974 (N) TR6 with and open top. > >It transpired that the two guys in their early 30s had hired it for the day >and were planning a trip in the Perthshire hills. As the conversation >progressed they made the following comments. > >It is very stiff to steer > >It has a choke and I dont even know what a choke is or what it does > >It seems to have an overdrive .What IS that? > >The brakes arent very effective. > >Weve only driven 20 miles and my leg is sore as the clutch is stiff to >press. Do you think theres something wrong with it? > >Having given some explanations about 1970s technology and advice on a >possible route I left feeling very old and with a clear vision of the >generation gap > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 15:05:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACDE40421 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:05:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D64F403EA for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.210.66.225]) by p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Sl071m00P4rcYSm01l08Jx; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:00:09 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'John Macartney'" , References: <639825097.1596462.1379430946929.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1379520713.34721.YahooMailNeo@web171904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:00:13 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJthBwRdfzzRc0JmFVVAh5mblkT+QINuQ2/mH3s8UA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Being Irish, having gone to University in Scotland, and with an English mother, I think I am qualified to weigh in here on the subject of Brits and religion (well, alcohol is a religion to many): The Scots keep the sabbath, and anything else they can get their hands on The Welsh pray on their knees, and on their neighbor(u)rs The Irish don't know what to believe in, but are prepared to die for it And the English are a nation of self-made men, thus relieving the almighty of an onerous responsibility Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Macartney Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:12 PM To: bkahler1@gmail.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: [TRM 1946-49] Generation gap Doesn't say much for the rental company that released the car without giving the hirers a brief instruction course. Usual British attitude of grab the money and let the customer go hang - or being Scotland, perhaps the renter was too paralytic to talk? Jonmac PS And I'm Scots too :) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 19:19:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E87340424 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6014F403EF for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:19:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9211E70108789 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (231.sub-70-193-15.myvzw.com [70.193.15.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 53E20E000090 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:18:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack Mc Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:18:48 -0400 To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379553528; bh=5yZreorb83fZ99VWaZDaIi6tTK3nnS5So6zSLloeYVo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=mIe0jXN5RkBox0G6HJr3TEXJoWXJXwL/supCrmDyKdapmPnF2EbO7G6Uw8WOejcZM 6j77B6M6MCVO08pa7k8oSte0oZWqFfjRUF6HgVzuFHSZVz7Ju0jc3aSW6upAFOB9ov SNmmjEvQq4QAvhPgSvjBXykpkfviyc7cqv+dPE9c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3383523a50f8444d Subject: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Beware the French Blue 74 TR6 on eBay located in Wilmington, NC I spoke to a gentleman this morning who has seen the car and says it has bad frame rust where the trailing arms attach. The seller knows this and does not disclose it in the listing. Seller has not responded to my question "Do you have any pictures of the trailing arm to frame attachment areas?" Which I sent him about 10 hours ago. Could somebody post this on the 6-Pack Forum? Thanks, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 19:46:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20140442 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:46:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AEC403E7 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:45:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x16so6054736vbf.10 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:45:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=D4Y0xM3OuqaET7J9eKPtfP2r7RrmPbRWYNu73ah9UhI=; b=I2njZ4EHVFTkLLONEmCUBajSVNgB2VuCyS5dd5otsx2oAsjrDDyUV1kYuszWE32Gmk BezgNCtybalDXgLK0Xp6d7jJoHBI/eO4gj5aHFAkKkEEnoimnPBPI8AukqjLkSUBubPe sUTEKhHmIIIjDrtPD6qwcBL9LJk90CAFJYd4K32AgPUpaO4UWp+wzt9OSS5u2cZkr8gH NRn3HBhLMbpfm55VNeSOthPEuwXK5PE+Xp+Wej4/hv7R25wqSdRudFg5fZBlRe6LHwTa xpqDVByauLnrICik9KGXKJ3AqH7QmG3fcLBnwnsHugt9KzzRt6GntZI+0p3+eUwzfT/l RfiA== uo1mr40113463vec.6.1379555136123; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:45:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:45:36 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Jack Mc , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for posting the warning. "selling this car for a friend..." is usually a red flag for me. Geo On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > Beware the French Blue 74 TR6 on eBay located in Wilmington, NC > > I spoke to a gentleman this morning who has seen the car and says it has > bad > frame rust where the trailing arms attach. The seller knows this and does > not > disclose it in the listing. Seller has not responded to my question "Do you > have any pictures of the trailing arm to frame attachment areas?" Which I > sent > him about 10 hours ago. > > Could somebody post this on the 6-Pack Forum? > > Thanks, > Jack Mc > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 20:27:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF5F4042E for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36DA40405 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SpXK1m0020cQ2SLA7qPADj; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:23:10 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SqMA1m00D2xZMJ48WqMAMJ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:21:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 02:21:10 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: marty sukey s=q20121106; t=1379557390; bh=5+L6sFppUZJ3IlsUV5WgAYWXjFxHUIZbLIl+uNJESGk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=jtm7EyQj+X60XraJpvgO+imX63r23G6SMkXbzo0S6sx/DYY0td2JkNrdPfLHv30Eh jKILgnYrgH7vIBlV+XCd3VlcvEO0XCGU2/PqWnRk0eJ4n8wGH+0rTDALvjA847PS9E 5hnD9mU7Momi+wFgXD4KE01HRPdj3H4Nh+jA8oR0NbKaS8+ebGLbv5gbF8ZRh4HhE5 /B2ltNPKUDN79c4Tj7NHxQyaYbbJMBLTnLtzoqyTxs/+LSe0x3drw8hcNi+ZYHzi5y Q3jHOf4KdTx9CDi75bMCwMnG4jLOojvTEGZFPRyVbdlsNdOM2Og0RlbEVinsSb/1vi UHYc0pOoqKr/w== Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Real soon now" has come. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/sets/72157635477714201/ Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: pethier@comcast.net > To: "marty sukey" > Cc: "Triumph List" > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:42:47 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America > I'll be releasing some stills "real soon now". This working 40 hours a > week is getting in the way of my play time! > > The concour is is up already: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier/sets/72157635478068173/with/9695776137/ > > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "marty sukey" > > To: "Triumph List" > > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:02:21 PM > > Subject: [TR] Kastner Cup weekend at Road America > > http://youtu.be/bVcq5awD2o0 > > > > Above is a couple of laps of in-car video from the group 2 feature > > from Road > > America last Sunday in a Spitfire. > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 20:45:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A19F40449 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:45:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E38403B9 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SqlR1m0092QmmGk01qlRDe; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:45:26 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:39:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net what's the listing #? I just looked for it. we can all hammer the guy with questions about rust and the frame -----Original Message----- From: Jack Mc Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:18 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Beware the French Blue 74 TR6 on eBay located in Wilmington, NC I spoke to a gentleman this morning who has seen the car and says it has bad frame rust where the trailing arms attach. The seller knows this and does not disclose it in the listing. Seller has not responded to my question "Do you have any pictures of the trailing arm to frame attachment areas?" Which I sent him about 10 hours ago. Could somebody post this on the 6-Pack Forum? Thanks, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 20:49:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F8740445 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:49:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB18A403B9 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.91.12.adsl.snet.net [69.0.91.12]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MNZQ2-1VFMUJ1Imw-007AEM; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:49:04 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Dave" , References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> <2890F9035E16453F9BEA85857417F06C@Datsun> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:49:02 -0400 KKGD2mqGcT4XN77j/9NIf3FeO1bLR/GVk04znY+RjAqWQfYC4P GU5dUkn9Ur+zLeIFfJB7ZNfM3v6rrAgrjJvKNoDNDfx0yuOZML w+jDTWgYa99Ud0jkHoR5lwXiBu4x0oYH2CW8LSBFEcZtIBo/uR CB7605RX3DvX3tQcuqfKP/tl22HV2/MLPtzOsCy9fqGSt1foe6 uamgAiiEi0Q6xb+GotQa94ikdPs0tByTtrXuvwxigQtqcrzb4H G5bOfFc1gk0wOJc5VitIIcyofRJnORzT/LAVdkGuiztuUJnX8J eO5gPw0+MXjSGrLe13alkztTCiRJqnX5QDKDFrFFe Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have the listing number........ I've searched and can't find it....yet. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:39 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor what's the listing #? I just looked for it. we can all hammer the guy with questions about rust and the frame -----Original Message----- From: Jack Mc Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:18 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Beware the French Blue 74 TR6 on eBay located in Wilmington, NC I spoke to a gentleman this morning who has seen the car and says it has bad frame rust where the trailing arms attach. The seller knows this and does not disclose it in the listing. Seller has not responded to my question "Do you have any pictures of the trailing arm to frame attachment areas?" Which I sent him about 10 hours ago. Could somebody post this on the 6-Pack Forum? Thanks, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 20:57:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3DD40447 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:57:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3838403EF for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id jy13so6173945veb.6 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:54:48 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NDog05/lHuUGjbUjwd96K7cxK8E7hlpwkjUi9tsL9GQ=; b=Hjy+vXV5V1NnoFhgIVt/H87Semz7mtxU3Nw+YKoBTBq5cgeCoGh0Uah1xT03NWERB+ jMo15SsawOy79t3wBqzXfa0pfyOpdElvHclBC8NOP/Z+pTdSiIK8DqEMqoRTKiBmiJm6 gwlcASU77awUgXVO2XZ0K8/JGmTU6RId/ESq4Xji/VaKYpgc/xlb+j0GN/0wDkDqtkF2 5WgMaCPDpR/0GFATHtF/fQ0jiqX45OA6cH52Vfb/4KkOp/L6jaFg8dGelvKeYQmX4dsI 7mjEEqd7p1/p9yUEiu0frRA1jD8jCQZtmWUObNOXjuClTRLJoUp2N6pcEp3utu72eKTl L+5Q== ug8mr40758499vcb.13.1379559288270; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:54:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> <2890F9035E16453F9BEA85857417F06C@Datsun> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:54:48 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dave wrote: > what's the listing #? 300967966617 Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 07:12:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0BA4275F for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F240E96 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2013 13:08:13 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.140] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2013 13:08:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2013 13:08:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 8201 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2013 13:08:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379596092; bh=YSBHsmxaVXIY/EEfu7jNKMbFP1KC3IYSgxOciMN8CaE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q/6Mll9n+cCs9PP+pRSBudRQoWGLpUhyVsri3QCQTc7EfTn8TWCYafdTfIPo2ADxe6F4ZRdc/gQ1a5a260gHytsJizO6nsYXK5eyHSJJmEftvFmgRxqOTtJWmaHFeQQWU2WcC/xg7u/W7ls4fVxB/OZs2Hth5FiQ4GzOjwj+AC0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J/2oQt+v43pqJE5HanuQMDPfc35am5ZKrcqR+l9ed+s5Xajt6wPmUwyI3TilbK06GtwT0mNog52wq8YlZHSxmT7VNKEBk4HsY7UY5pooaiyu7kuwXwoGd9ASb3vvftZhDK5NrTNNbjyZoz3C7d5nb+fPFOnMilMnky2vVW+7f8M=; 3the_v365fZydWibjbHF_.FysLi9x5cX1rqh84Q8vb9tj2B8faRUZnHHjv8e NAnCs8g2Y1L6USe945JCedGejf8HdzX5iQ0KZGA20vpn5IKw87c_fzJyBf77 wwcag_e8Iq3vir4CLqCsthEKw59igQhXkBiJCVJA6KF17p6HRy.rwjUNRG0L LRLWKo63HR3mZWOJ5yr1T1U5S7Q5pyF6WB9F2LzsmloulilMS.mtgeZV_QA5 Hm4gAUhiG48GVsNtYskcFNKE8K3qJhCC2uyTjLQKQq1UhNdYfFxFod4.8qRi _Vi5X38SGZZL1G6uoM_qFZPBYl3Nh9zgu5sIUar.6tF5f9Id_WBo55.IvtiL 6urguQL2UOm8ddKk5FybKYaSYayoHQ0T_Q8weUH3K_NXwmQOoZhO8zQr38sE Vvx9GUVjhOYkugVRDWbmZkylz8u2t3pY5sxYMr3KRsfAEBoFFads0vPbNS59 cUTUo3Eo9ECVge3KwCnDxlxawaDImTPaFodrSf2Jo4Y6p6n.gS_w_UIq.feu 58n4t0oAI0Sx0Rw-- Received: from [107.195.30.254] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:08:12 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGFtIHB1dHRpbmcgYSBQZXJ0cm9uaXggaW4gYSBUUjYgdGhhdCBoYXMgYmVlbiBvZmYgdGhlIHJvYWQgZm9yIGFsbW9zdCAzMCB5ZWFycy4gSSBhbSBzdGlsbCB3YWtpbmcgdGhlIGNhciB1cC4gSSB3YW50IHRvIHN0YXRpYyB0aW1lIHRoZSBjYXIuIExvb2tpbmcgYXQgdGhlIHRpbWluZyBtYXJrcyBJIHNlZSBhIGJpZyBtYXJrIChncm9vdmUgaW4gcHVsbGV5KSBhbmQgYSBzbWFsbCBtYXJrIGFib3V0IGEgcXVhcnRlciBpbmNoIHRvIHRoZSBsZWZ0IG9mIGl0IChsb29raW5nIGZyb20gdGhlIGYBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Static Timing TR6/Timing Marks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am putting a Pertronix in a TR6 that has been off the road for almost 30 years. I am still waking the car up. I want to static time the car. Looking at the timing marks I see a big mark (groove in pulley) and a small mark about a quarter inch to the left of it (looking from the front). I take it that the big mark is TDC and the small mark is the static timing mark? I have it lined up with the timing pointer with valves 1 & 2 closed. I think that I can back the distributor off clockwise and with a test light turn it counterclockwise until the light comes on and that will be good initial timing. Is this correct? TIA, -Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 19:27:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFE642A42 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668DA42AF0 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([63.133.158.38]) by p3plsmtpa08-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id T7D11m00P0pzecn017D2pV; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:13:04 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com><2890F9035E16453F9BEA85857417F06C@Datsun> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:11:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just asked him if there was any rust on the car or the frame and for pictures from the bottom. mighty suspicious all the pictures are top side! From: Geo Hahn Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:54 PM To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dave wrote: what's the listing #? 300967966617 Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 19:33:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D6142B8A for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:33:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (unknown [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF4842927 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T8ff1m0081HpZEs018ogRa; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:48:40 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.8] ([98.255.164.156]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T8of1m00C3NmwNy8a8ofqU; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:48:40 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:48:39 -0700 To: TR3/6 s=q20121106; t=1379623720; bh=anm2qDKKPauy5bYsPu2QdhKADf8eY1iNO4YPN5Xjx/E=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=FdB26HpZjlsdsWeuXBmeNYoHicek52QZg5I2DCZ31KTVjbKUFNvpmk/lOBA+VU2vF WOSi4Oz0ZpKuZUfk0ZS7gAKwQGxU5wdg+x5sGCg6cx09XsA0ofqTBUGnkdsmEyXoU2 zPOhFL18VJrqgyZRmjJm+x/K75QX2IZgTrsqlKZe/nPwXdte6pt9d28kMjgYL6GUeI jbFl2mDOMn9ws1RT8hCPljseGmFW+/HPmdiIWy80nvRWQzrlEBgvhsfYiueloROeO7 afMivZ7rIw9uSyfxpRl3tpmxAW9YSAYvkIrrAvsLIh+63L+pW5sLjkK9iB9/wrlMjx ofn675JuBUIjg== Subject: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page 68 of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box drain. Thanks for your time "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.netp ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 19:33:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3069242AFF for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (unknown [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEF4427A4 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 15:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-457eebd9.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.235.217]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MTE000YQ5FXKU90@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:09:30 -0400 From: Bob To: triumphs@autox.team.net Thread-index: Ac61fIf7z043QYifR4WmJLU56ZcxFg== Subject: [TR] TR6 differential noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List, Is anyone familiar with the sound of a bad bearing in the differential? There is oil in the unit, not sure how ol, but the noise is beyond curing with fresh oil. All the universals are snug, there is no play at all in them. I can make it happen with the car running on stands at 1000 rpm in 4th gear I don't have anywhere to post a video. I could forward a video if anyone has a few minutes to hear it. TRF has rebuilt units but I cannot justify cost for an occasional driver. I am ready to chase down another differential............. there are some on eBay. Regards, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 20:58:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA3242B6B for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8804275C; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id TCS61m0022QmmGk01CS662; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:26:07 -0700 From: "Dave" To: , "Triumph 6 Pack" <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:25:50 -0500 Subject: [TR] Fw: Other: 91mph sent a message about Triumph : TR-6 Base Convertible 2-Door #300967966617 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net this is the response when I asked the guy about rust on the car. am I correct in thinking this is the car #300967966617 where the rear has structurally damaging rust? From: eBay Member: yellowlancer18 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:16 PM To: dave@ranteer.com Subject: Re: Other: 91mph sent a message about Triumph : TR-6 Base Convertible 2-Door #300967966617 eBay sent this message to David Northrup (91mph). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more. Seller has responded to your question about this item Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More Dear 91mph, no rust spot that i am aware of and not lift to get under car need email address - yellowlancer18 Click "respond" to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: 91mph To: yellowlancer18 Subject: Other: 91mph sent a message about Triumph : TR-6 Base Convertible 2-Door #300967966617 Sent Date: Sep-19-13 12:10:21 PDT Dear yellowlancer18, is there any rust on the car? frame? do you have any pictures of the frame or from under the car - 91mph Triumph : TR-6 Base Convertible 2-Door Item Id: 300967966617 End time: Sep-23-13 21:30:00 PDT Seller: yellowlancer18 (26) 100.0% Positive Feedback Member since Jul-10-07 in United States Location: NC, United States Listing Status: This message was sent while the listing was active. Marketplace Safety Tip a.. Keep your money safe - never pay for items with cash or instant money transfer services, such as Western Union or MoneyGram. 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Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. eBay Inc. is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 21:00:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014E42A3E for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB4A4275F for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5F319700000A7 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (208.sub-70-193-3.myvzw.com [70.193.3.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0FA7AE0000A1 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:35:39 -0400 (EDT) References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:35:40 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379637339; bh=PfV2pmyEsgPfGFICMF+KiIm3e1QLjCFJNDE43K9xfm8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LgDeIVA6uPBUqtiY3eabc/RfgliXYtFyPLeunD9wuhITBZhshAOjhGOWolbBGBPrl LUVUkIwGj3bI9C4sC9o3F7wNRJOv77iSZEzcmBTjeMt8GUHk0K6eFAUeZdSSDuo6N9 wauC19CiubXuZyQv++2FTZsWFebCOh/PJSdRjJBs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c5523b985b23d0 Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Update: Seller responded to my question: "no clue what you're asking, not a car guy" In the meantime, the gentleman who has seen the car, saw the eBay listing and says the description makes it sound like a fresh restoration - it's not - the restoration was done 10 years ago. He also thinks the seller should have disclosed that there is some kind of sound deadening glued to the floor so you can't get a look at the floors under the carpet. Normally, I'm content to just warn people about stuff like this, but I'm beginning to think this seller richly deserves some harassment. I'm going to rephrase my question for him: "okay, didn't someone who looked at the car tell you and show you that it had serious rust where the trailing arm brackets mount to the frame? And didn't he get a worst case estimate of $1,800 a side to fix the damage and inform you of that? And don't you think you should disclose that to avoid negative feedback from a buyer?" Everybody feel free to copy and paste the same question. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad > On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > > Beware the French Blue 74 TR6 on eBay located in Wilmington, NC > > I spoke to a gentleman this morning who has seen the car and says it has bad > frame rust where the trailing arms attach. The seller knows this and does not > disclose it in the listing. Seller has not responded to my question "Do you > have any pictures of the trailing arm to frame attachment areas?" Which I sent > him about 10 hours ago. > > Could somebody post this on the 6-Pack Forum? > > Thanks, > Jack Mc > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 21:03:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD8642F5F for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:03:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF68340075 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id gx14so2652106lab.37 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:32:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=g5vdLyX2tKhxbhDrBsCcAuCXsCehGV9KyeFApQ9sd50=; b=Ane31q2Mr9eKY+r6a8FkQF5tsxLx+Ha9XJ9YhuAV3cb3JNSlcOUqbMlfvp/9M2jRVV QsotDLAtS5+4PfvwW4L22/FtY6hgy4TmjmpS60zZWX2Jiu2W4wIqy+UFBZuoJuRVTyuh gETxKk2rxAzpDnENKDlUNH0IXnOdtXSLpUjWftT4HrhWjLWblLY4hsx8wpaFlgbZM6Jq zzbcI0vdB77DUolAT/7H/UrfhOpQ8jWGGnAaiDMtp2QaJkC1ks34Z4WOEoS/J0D6lCPb bfi834cUC5dZVIq2n1+ZDdjf5D9hky4EIozawqcVZBtYd8+Q0G5yV//A+P+4IfJSljCD EIow== Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:32:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com> <2890F9035E16453F9BEA85857417F06C@Datsun> <6B5A53DC10334D8482A84A1704FFE34B@Datsun> From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:32:17 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What's up with the rear? That stance reminds me of a buddy's Maverick in > High School... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:07:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70A442955 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429954282D for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:42:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:41:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.11] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:41:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:41:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379641318; bh=BHQskZd/Eo8FUnUWCpDW7ak8aOlqJ8ACyr2OF6vvMHQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=B218O45BSyOMdloENVh9SyjnjqKF54rUjkPEDNilkigkjZhexlSciep/fXza/5nyZYQCLVg9eW+luCk01parZEIUHMxc8zRw6GTWAkpQ4BUFCU5E9wAeUSItyPd+dYUybSqSkcqlvcwTUNGsCEk9g11adHDCoJFYEhbYvh12Gj0= Px4aEGX8cAqeZXTzilNOV1.k2F23x6YV3dR5RLJQRcvbXmFm3m6IdncHBLCO aAIY6Eilx5TX0t8JLCxZ8nKa4a.X3f6VKhTZv.1i6SEluCuadIaQuiTSkBrk Pqw0pT55mRfimSfJvwkkkr_KNaym_OqXc15F7CG3iVojTweaeIZIw5iA.yBo 7kz3jpKY4QchnlyqemOLzQJpY4fS06Ik8sE5F4rN2qnpZBi2KXyAfKuz2bZg wTVzJ_lc8I7KTcbjk1twX1FX41mIQ6sijcbhQ.G6FlL6UqMb11KVC82kazZL zTE4kvDH1lEF1p1irV68OQFZTTJ8nYRTiaZ9oSLuDrTTNO4zlvmyNIRNuNzS fo50ZAnnWk_U6C6afLjWVNFzA9Lm8vsoxGYxiZZUDpFlPBmAYkusHj0X3kNu jF7QD_9Nn1SQEb2Ad7QU3FkvcSR.C4QfXW6SzK.J5JEcrzith0j46Ync_8c2 LPbS6ePqQ4skCuvsJYNqC7XljvxV5fot5NNGRngzSpbUtpcpqE3HnuPaaotR 7r4UCnArosCPvsufHwWw2MrknD.AYScl1SAzpjKAnZCz7nVweOZsYU.k76HG vwQ-- smtp111.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2013 18:41:58 -0700 PDT References: From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:41:54 -0500 To: William Pugh Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my '58 the tube routes out the firewall through the RHD steering column blanking plate, the rubber seal seems to be made for this purpose. Pictures off line on request. Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:48 PM, William Pugh wrote: > > We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. > Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. > > Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page 68 > of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box drain. > > Thanks for your time > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.netp > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:10:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D2C42A87 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CE6429A7 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:56:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.62] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:56:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 01:56:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379642165; bh=FTXwMlTDqtBXbisWwB/YKHj6jTt3WFl5+DCdEeYWOXM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=X3qkv5qADlYYbkx9QKl8A4G5yvvTooWdL+pXLYqHWz8+uWGNgswxngUVocO5vLAJpFq0T1zBtjDpZFj4GMpr7IHuVL5EiUzStwd66RTOVZABg0mK2sNHsL/AEjAVYE7j9roU03egQwF2zGhogdZ8r7zrgRnXVXse2d1AOO02q+o= QzLkUV492mCTE5_QkTY_49cP82fMgjvYLCd9c1tleIb2Ob0YZa.VmBV4BAt4 0hwhPCAsPogv8ZYtU434YP5Kk2QjGbnZYu4TofDs_7aE7EEHyy4FpgWFpXM2 fNtHu9Ww2Bh37aQ.PJM_JlsgSgqbwlXqQy9geYjE0G7cpsPd_Ua_dVwBgb8j lv1SjpmT6bKA3r.qP_PvXQiM_VaZIyRfoQqxorEmjPAVHcEfddZyi6jTAvLL kwSF8g8FCzrrgc4bVmqd8ztkuMQvThr_T_RfdzzlKkSIsiboTEnQmbOPixk_ gQdqWYeeFWoz6ly43yLBaop0LMlxs07J16ILVfts7EdE2m3cr9daI_gOVLU8 PX2Xk7PZoecldKxroIg5seRDMPog3ooI_cXWFbf87qCfZCPWzjNso7G2Iv8t NHSZEVijyOasvZXh6DiQ6fYahA8_9h55SFY1UYpQ7SaucfZ6RjaaXqiU7jH5 TCT._aIn6jBO5U4beulU9WXzP9akncyQdGnTPZuscGFIooZehRxKBYRNR.Ld I3tJzGZPrjBtwoXfH0eZ3PRFN2ly9XAU8kwLil2ZIj63BEKeL4Ds3dRg8rW0 9e4B_4EwvRCGveXlCWhEYYPjWaTiSPIek1Us_LjUQk4ajZ0AWvDqwFBCVxZr N smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2013 18:56:05 -0700 PDT References: From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:56:02 -0500 To: William Pugh Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Forgot to mention the excellent diagram on TeriAnn's site: http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm I would place the hole at her unidentified item #22 Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:48 PM, William Pugh wrote: > > We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. > Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. > > Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page 68 > of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box drain. > > Thanks for your time > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.netp > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:11:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B72A429FF for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B9B4009A for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0AAF670000099 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B8070E000081 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:12:53 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-d247.sysops.aol.com (205.188.17.51) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:12:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:12:53 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379643173; bh=ZvJY24Bpojnr6XYFLhIotLIBoO0se8XhoM9l2SG7uPU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mbktL55GOqHQCn0wlSFSan9H1wVwpB/oUbslzmOowZbDb9e6O1BAHUdtDD64ZhGGI iS6fahQrjYAPF6LeYsM8dPruXrrFkDIIFMGU8oPg11cGKOHHNUMXZEeQyvRvfgEye7 As1h2BlrH3kfgklnAESGk214oKCQOZh5t/o3pj4o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d523baf253b62 Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You have a choice. You can connect it to the drain tube in the battery box or you cna connect it to the drain for the little catch tray just under the scuttle vent. Or you can do like I did and tee the two together. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: William Pugh We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page 68 of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box drain. Thanks for your time "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.netp ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:11:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610342E6D for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:11:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f174.google.com (mail-ve0-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C24E40431 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:15:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id jy13so7530522veb.33 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/cA3ZuY99tVh1DxMrUyRT8JY7DWVyr1Z9Mk5dojaRfI=; b=ayFRJmroOC5jsOEz9cCXylcyjWjZMaNYzsa8rU+L4D6o9jd0eSbP3D6JPo3D6L9j81 nqP3mksDelULUf2j8ls/3utyPR4n4Pm7xBJ7LefWAt9qRzYGdnbXqgehx23HBiL2xZlx +iXQKoYNbpoOHAubxJFJ6pF8Nu6taQYwzJbbfoEL6gq/QYYskNSAupNNzK+NmnLFL0+A uvyVTpq+ZTE89F0qASZnqxNX7cOfLoGdgp9L89Dcq2LRE7/AKcHuQcmQq64a5Zl9hGWY 7u78TzFO/o7ynZSTg2sj9LR78wuTP8C19dSO4NkAANrgXlnSXaFtpRadF4v11CNPT4AG F7Bg== xv7mr3319331vdb.1.1379643331707; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.195 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:15:31 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:15:31 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: William Pugh Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill -- Scroll down on this thread for an explanation and a useful pic: http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?91951-Help&highlight=drain+tube Geo On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM, William Pugh wrote: > We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. > Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. > > Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page > 68 > of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box > drain. > > Thanks for your time > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p ; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.netp > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:12:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2013042B04 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:12:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6873742813 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.91.12.adsl.snet.net [69.0.91.12]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfFA2-1VXMK43sRG-00OZgn; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:36:25 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Dave" , References: <114A84AC-07FD-4F39-8D06-48A30F974AC8@aol.com><2890F9035E16453F9BEA85857417F06C@Datsun> <6B5A53DC10334D8482A84A1704FFE34B@Datsun> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:36:24 -0400 0GnHEGE9U7qTxHtQQ4GcRcrCkiRb1MrUV427rQhC6CUQ+H8mM9 MXBRIa3tbs/Heodq2vCqi6zMRlZNz9sX/UG7gmcTgGRLb/9pjV WiBppsT/BKSbGOfVh5UEx1Z/mPNr80TYvFYu+opDWkZqPOSFCV cnlyzOMsnxR0sSto8HHB4HO5FRUFYYHgm4jdQiIoJ0qMkDP279 RZ/kzeCrDAGOpgsGZumVj3qTtvbEY+2MzeYzdXpSIwakgpCdcZ d+n0IRxGIkPokt2gDMtd0aRgGrjWN8KzUWS7W7Kz8ifJU2wLIk Vls+0Mc0SRjcEPQ/6dVTGudtAewFLTXgSAGfycNsd Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I asked him about the condition of the frame and TA mount points........... no response 24 hours later. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:11 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor I just asked him if there was any rust on the car or the frame and for pictures from the bottom. mighty suspicious all the pictures are top side! From: Geo Hahn Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:54 PM To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] eBay TR6 Caveat Emptor On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Dave wrote: what's the listing #? 300967966617 Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 23:19:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C8E42B29 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC5C42813 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTE00D96OIS4N50@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:01:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "'William Pugh'" , "'TR3/6'" References: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:01:36 -0400 Thread-index: AQHsJojniwSSDoh/qClu2dyK7JQbLpmTHh7A Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net there is a connection on the firewall side vent box to left of center (from inside of car) about an inch from center. you should be able to see the recess trough that leads to the tube like connection. i will send a picture separate from this email. Carl -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Pugh Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:49 PM To: TR3/6 Subject: [TR] Urgent Help Please We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain Tube. Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page 68 of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box drain. Thanks for your time "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.netp ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 00:22:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625C4429EB for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545C1429D6 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:16:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TH8P1m0051zF43QABHGWEd; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:16:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.4] ([98.255.164.156]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id THGV1m00f3NmwNy8kHGWXv; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:16:30 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:16:30 -0700 To: TR3/6 s=q20121106; t=1379654190; bh=/Rxw84rgJEmd5o2VkEjTLaWg/2g//y0Nf5/DfyYPgds=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=ByRmHgF2zVqH51oa1619AN1hj2GE5Zzy0ElG6QaHRQSl7AGDCFbKUUXXTF1bX754G CYRtF/2incT15VulqXsyf3wa7lkiF0NHql8Z8KmMjJEEbdduIzCYcU4LJsVdCTB8jQ anSNeOCxYm29F9NEQYmgm6ZaHz+ehO2KlVwnjU+CiQ733ZRjDEvidMMEXtb1bm00QA LXc6CY7lNRpnQHSEl1Gtrlz83lwvzSwTUzEUWH7q/jD6HF/fURi8nKrsUDSh99+mEw nF74kTbwHSBIF75L9buX/X9VDYe+QOKu5fJftYsi4A2/IZSZ2SbiSI3fY0RdT0lR0A AMWD3KNnMoviw== Subject: [TR] Vent tube help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks folks, found the "hole" in the right hand blank as shown. Great list Bill Pugh Wallace, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 04:45:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1004542A0D for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B15EF42813 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 03:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 09:33:58 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.250] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 09:33:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 09:33:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 96308 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Sep 2013 09:33:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379669638; bh=E50lt0rkzU8/Y8sbVWveXJqffoYydql/3YxF83/QPaw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qwk7URv7n1JyhJcSRMl6sFoTRjEVR4kpQIWqSOef89qe75sf51ZAwg9rQwZDeB6aYk62zpFUxO130/5CY5siXOwledqs7tMuryYvXs37IWU3Mw1yniE+pl9Bc0rHxvliyqGyUemXVzgWos7N9W9+DtU/dYE7Wgj06n2SwmpYVZE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H54F3TV4TjU+H012HRzd2v5S8wJKF/33AmddRQgUCe0er2N4yIHVixUVSdQ8r7CqKeQBHR2QqEn2at2qnmfFPxQSdtDGor+PIwNb+4kiKiqQXdUH9LLkcYyvF+4nfX+iDpkIBCppgCyfiRkNjc+ip0Y0MkQlmkgSnAquptQ2RCM=; e6CaDazny.MCtiURYc3Xne690gLKYw.seKeXAv9VaFCBr2PCj2UZ5OpYlVgH bMb7pT4m9WPXVwMfAudqInait8DhggoeFBVY2GwyV6QJNPmff8__i45aAkKS FOnwD0uSY9AxzDAG.TKX2GC.767KHORHiQQRZfGXoIhRRNWqUvtnpHuzLGxy hdmo1Tj1g_kPSQ_dIzU07lD0R_GLcIakwqRfkmtK12M4Q4C5hHPBlkabgHwh S1qMlZEAZcPi3GC5wh8ChlRLpMjIlYyUZvOvFUzsdjIuMmtqebgVbqMziyJA i7pFtxitAEeU8pZjg0Y37L6joE8FjAOm40hR130D4aLyoJiS3v1VQx_L1r_B 6mea345IbDDjwX_zTjTnaIgddj7z9zjop_QNCZIG3W7GCqY57kHrwwzzBQYZ A0dt5u_DnByCY1nwnO6Q0cPGBdcl7ppteVsDgDrEh9ZcMHoQ.y9sL8IlGQSb tp9E- Received: from [2.121.238.248] by web171906.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:33:58 BST wqBJJ3ZlIGp1c3QgcmVjZWl2ZWQgYSBiZWxhdGVkIGJpcnRoZGF5IHByZXNlbnQgYW5kIEknbcKgc28gJ2NodWZmZWQnIHRvIGhhdmUgaXQgdGhhdCBJIHdhbnRlZCB0byBzaGFyZSBpdCB3aXRoIGFsbCBvZiB5b3UuIEkgbXVzdCBzYXkgYXQgdGhlIHZlcnkgb3V0c2V0IHRoaXMgaXNuJ3QgYSBzYWxlcyBwaXRjaCBpbiB3aGljaCBJIHdvdWxkIGJlbmVmaXQgaW4gYW55IHdheSBidXQgeWVzLCBpdCBpcyBhIHNhbGVzIHBpdGNoIGFsbCB0aGUgc2FtZS4KVHJpdW1waCBTcG9ydHMgU2l4IENsdWIgaW4gdGhlIFUBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:33:58 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Back down the years - a must-have for me (and you?) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've just received a belated birthday present and I'm so 'chuffed' to have it that I wanted to share it with all of you. I must say at the very outset this isn't a sales pitch in which I would benefit in any way but yes, it is a sales pitch all the same. Triumph Sports Six Club in the UK (probably the largest of Standard-Triumph clubs anywhere) has recently released a double CD box set of the 'Standard Car Review' magazine. This was a factory publication issued monthly for dealers, importers and English speaking customers the world over and there's a raft of stuff in each copy from the world over as well. I've just spent a delightful hour flicking through just two editions and I'm both enthralled and delighted by the adverts, articles and pictures of things Standard and Triumph cars did with their owners. So many of the pictures show scenes that have effectively vanished from today's landscape - and there's plenty of stuff in there for US and Canadian enthusiasts. In fact the first two issues from 1959 naturally cover the period when the TR3 was in production and there's no mention of Heralds at as the dates pre-date its release. The CD's cover the period from 1959 to 1968 and each magazine, issued every month during that period, is a .pdf file at two pages to view, so you can zoom on to anything you want to examine and study in detail. Believe me, you won't get closer to how things were in those days about and around the products of those times than by reading these files - and it's far more interesting than reading a parts book! Getting one of these CD sets won't break anyone's bank balance as TSSC are selling them for only GBP10 (US$15 approx.) plus P&P and as Christmas isn't too far away...............? If you want a copy, I'd recommend you email info@tssc.org.uk who can pass your enquiry to the Club Shop (I don't have its email address) or you can fax them at: +44 1858 431936 As I said at the start, absolutely NFI as far as I'm concerned, just a delighted reader for whom these magazines have brought back many happy memories of cars, people, places and times past in which I was so fortunate to share before it all vanished for ever. Recommended without hesitation - to every enthusiast of these amazing (and sometimes infuriating) cars Jonmac PS I'm also sending this as a Bcc to many of my own email contacts but I think it would be great if all of you (as recipients) could pass this post on to your respective club newsletter editors so they can further spread the word to those who aren't on this list. I'll shut up now 'cos there's lots more to read :) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 06:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A47442AA9 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C341242849 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 90A5670000095 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 65B28E000082 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:27:20 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379676440; bh=HjNuswD0jxORzj32LewvQJMrcp+2oUAjIMt43hEPVSI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p/YwD/dYoGy8cyBMDAqUXSTd99rF2g0KbmFkjHLy+Z/DLIQ3NpDwI483N1ugC+gWo 6R2DVWwz3kD1+E9nlAghqdIJYZ+Jc0t76vxmyXHVgBt7d6TYFdo31ZgP6UJa34jOBZ 5xJs+FJZ8TWCU84KrpM5aqWNW8IhVgoylJJUEyxE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b523c31186c69 Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Are we talking about the source connection or the destination? There is a hole in the transmission cover that I used for the drain. Dave In a message dated 9/19/2013 11:06:10 PM Central Daylight Time, wbeech@flash.net writes: > On my '58 the tube routes out the firewall through the RHD steering > column > blanking plate, the rubber seal seems to be made for this purpose. > > Pictures off line on request. > > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > >On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:48 PM, William Pugh wrote: > > > >We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain > Tube. > >Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. > > > >Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page > 68 > >of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box > drain. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 09:06:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCB1429E4 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from n11-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (n11-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [66.196.81.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB9142908 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:18:46 -0600 (MDT) s=s1024; t=1379683096; bh=dnokpGIZ9/V2oaLSmi6RiRdXlIF8/hMin1+tnFWb8f0=; b=bb9S3lhgUWauP9thzAdeMBOmVzrybka8BYSwU+IbhtMvteJpZ/rTFsYHHokcdv8CC3bsUSnRENNbGzusWUTcxaOaRGsDyLafORMzvD2bvgx236TNlyeG2SvD3mysuLnhZIw6pSqoYHyxYRiMuCZ+gs1qVY0HuRLUlsyjZV7V40c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; b=Wl75GM92sFpRYnvfJs404adhOrBxZeGVlY654XRcxadjnob++3GaP1BoxWPpd+FYjYH4QZUZAjx5tVc+kSAzobEnvhY39dg+7qvrHFMNhHHolmkfdSmHO7250NXP10AX8AGpqK81fQvQFAKY3ZTta6UQXisedudLyvDXoDLu+W8=; Received: from [66.196.81.175] by n11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 13:18:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.200] by t5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 13:18:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2013 13:18:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379683096; bh=dnokpGIZ9/V2oaLSmi6RiRdXlIF8/hMin1+tnFWb8f0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=22VyXSw0vNKy6kmcuQ513sL1k0I1vh5Ez8BoG+PRvRMSWcxBYWzjfsuMlT40iwz1iwk2GsKvjOshas/Q0FAAxl1PcnBhfz2EdfiLplsydx+3JWZArZUYBqqfJQ6VZ3uAecdiPPx1FPn9IN3bvx35Htma+w1n7hSmtpo1QoHbX4g= ZmCF7tWaxjLUSNOf4pVzdMDWbuGWBCbfacXOkypVcSTxrNfhlnHIHZeb5P9M qK4cnxUfzoKdtRGsg7qNG90orMdiKHPH4ZDjA.QbAbqVoi_R78396GfgyWwc D7veuL4PnrkyfB0Bh5I_vJL136nmFOzOUSSGAemM9rdBDJGRibItzydyzIew xtHE1LufUKlFA7fz6jueNveMw1sc8TLmjNRFKsROM8j11d6ixKE4Dj_4Yr6x 57.j9VhjPPlccx6pFziwiBnelRTGzPiFU2ZueGZ9olscBnU_fLPbzgrtN6gU bYJNmdWrMRJoFbwqYqxeSX3db7WiYS2bja1sRljI66s3YZEVylWvm1uvKVW5 z7KENthS1FPGf_qGm8ou4NKXSUrL9JTl0xGMjn8gvJVRPaa98ubLzG7xIJ5w GDlDdui6Qv9UR0_w.DseUgR3.8ovLZ6L7hNykJzodp0VJNYNbWAtCPISOZCd YuGEYZyOvTN_zQQGAzCdJA25P_wH6pRf2u9JTqjIY2ai1yvZF2rEXXAFym0a FU.x3L4_frVjzHL64OTX.x_ze7uS6_iaBJ6MA95JNATTM1MuEv3WECLId smtp209.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2013 06:18:16 -0700 PDT References: <83376.7d4c7c91.3f6d8b18@cs.com> From: "wbeech@flash.net" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 08:18:13 -0500 To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Urgent Help Please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The destination is the hole in the firewall, source is the scuttle vent. The hole on the trans cover is for the battery box drain. Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > > Are we talking about the source connection or the destination? There is a > hole in the transmission cover that I used for the drain. > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/19/2013 11:06:10 PM Central Daylight Time, > wbeech@flash.net writes: >> On my '58 the tube routes out the firewall through the RHD steering >> column >> blanking plate, the rubber seal seems to be made for this purpose. >> >> Pictures off line on request. >> >> Bill >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:48 PM, William Pugh wrote: >>> >>> We are installing new carpet in the TR3, and we found the Vent Drain >> Tube. >>> Not attached to anything, and we can not find a hole to attach it to. >>> >>> Any ideas greatly appreciated. BTW it is Moss Part number 680-835, page >> 68 >>> of the Moss catalog. My Red TR2/3 ignores it, only shows battery box >> drain. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 11:46:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E5E4299A for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4588942823 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w7so1411878lbi.1 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:04:14 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=z3TKB6K5WTh50FMqak3ATZGzr2RjuXDVQdwuyXg+0R8=; b=d9BX8IKCzYJePDkKdZ3BYfTxAQQj8qF9tyDeW6fxO0SPgjY4lOrhpfJGbpj3NZc0BN OfCdoaxPWC9Phj12Hu9N4nm96MHF839HObqJU+5ibvJBj8/4BbqLxpFPrbvZwIMGbuFr tbLBtwx3MvZWb//DYvjohgaeZ6krVQxUAz2UyJNJE5ssmoxNw6phCmFm7oEi4dpkVelX 8ne99H40VtNF+so0T18fGWYjc8cYY0QCjELkYYdsSSotiWZ86e9MwXYW7GaEHyvr+iQy rEc2UIBAD1U5Ra0S4jXuLuW0N1QSLs2NS8Y4lPstrGxYLljmL9wACNXHUqWeIUuEGQmJ w9mA== zt3mr10522412lbb.11.1379765054301; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:03:54 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Chris Simo Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:03:54 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 differential noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've posted a Video from Bob here: http://youtu.be/ybkxG883tbo On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Bob wrote: > Hello List, > Is anyone familiar with the sound of a bad bearing in the differential? > There is oil in the unit, not sure how ol, but the noise is beyond curing > with fresh oil. > All the universals are snug, there is no play at all in them. > I can make it happen with the car running on stands at 1000 rpm in 4th gear > I don't have anywhere to post a video. I could forward a video if anyone > has > a few minutes to hear it. > TRF has rebuilt units but I cannot justify cost for an occasional driver. > I am ready to chase down another differential............. there are some > on > eBay. > Regards, > Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 13:35:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28EA43006 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51148403B9 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [216.223.232.123] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id 9e8e0004dc3337b6; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:03:23 -0600 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:03:25 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: rpeglow@optonline.net References: Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 differential noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/21/2013 6:03 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > I've posted a Video from Bob here: http://youtu.be/ybkxG883tbo > > > > That certainly doesn't sound like a bearing to me--a bearing should be grumbly and growly when going bad. The knocking sounds like a u-joint, either going bad or operating at too extreme an angle. Since the car is on jackstands, it may be that the rear suspension droop is enough to bind the joint a little, or the splines in the halfshafts are extended enough to cause a little sticking and binding. Either condition could be caused, on jackstands, by rear bushings that are getting a bit sloppy, and/or worn diff mounts, so that the diff assembly is being jacked around by torque. But, no, it definitely does not sound like bearings. Even a broken crown wheel tooth would be a lot more regular than that. The intermittent nature of the noise suggests to me something bouncing up and down irregularly, relieving stress in one direction and increasing it in the opposite direction. If you're _sure_ the u-joints are good (a bad joint, with the needle bearings gone, can lock pretty firmly in one position and not seem loose when checked by hand, but will still make lots of noise under changing loads), I'd be looking at the fit of the halfshaft pieces. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 16:56:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E7642E51 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB12400A4 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:46:47 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=RsBSK6BGM4YA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=m5MAyZjxEPI9OFFr6ogA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 08/D8-21526-F831E325; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:45:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 14:45:57 -0700 Thread-index: Ac624X2r+UZu2XVuSruG6LRLp+SRWQAMUrnA Subject: Re: [TR] Paint question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a 1971 PPG listing that shows code 4540, mixed as 74 parts 9923, 21 parts 9915, 2 parts 9901 and 2 parts 9900. Also a Ditzler code 50816 for 69-71. And DuPont 8511 for 1979. But most likely those codes aren't going to help. The old paint formulations have been outlawed in the US (due to pollution concerns) and there aren't exact matches with the modern formulations. Or so I'm told anyway. Randall > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Paint question > > Sorry to bomb the list, but does anyone have a paint code for > Damson red? > All I have is "Triumph Damson 17". Thanks! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 17:56:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F3142FCD for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:56:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A93442823 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EE163700000AD; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A56E7E000089; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:13:19 -0400 (EDT) References: To: ccsimonsen@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-m289.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:13:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:13:19 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379801599; bh=+z1qWGS4PpT2h4VpuJPGmwWLRM5tSKoy+UOkrbVx1Ak=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e9dLY8tFys+G2VfcxCaE3KAFSaCPHHwjjL1S1hjNkP1DnNjZjncGXH2VS/YQb8Klo NpTkLUtmJBNE2h59QyP3GlSUyfC7rMmVZwFSn1DIZ/+ZNO04QtxcIT7PTz/Xb/e4ZA 8MAn6NtlDVs4035qY7YrtWWOMGysp6ZjC01ezDd0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b523e19ff246e Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 differential noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like you've lost a tooth or two. Call Goode Parts and order up a Nissan diff to replace it. Seriously, I think you've broken a tooth in the diff. Do not drive this car if you value your life. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Sent: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 differential noise I've posted a Video from Bob here: http://youtu.be/ybkxG883tbo On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Bob wrote: > Hello List, > Is anyone familiar with the sound of a bad bearing in the differential? > There is oil in the unit, not sure how ol, but the noise is beyond curing > with fresh oil. > All the universals are snug, there is no play at all in them. > I can make it happen with the car running on stands at 1000 rpm in 4th gear > I don't have anywhere to post a video. I could forward a video if anyone > has > a few minutes to hear it. > TRF has rebuilt units but I cannot justify cost for an occasional driver. > I am ready to chase down another differential............. there are some > on > eBay. > Regards, > Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 19:30:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8654B4290F for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:30:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AC542F39 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8M0j2bv016063 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:46:56 -0700 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43eb9882) id dm0207.523928d0.69c3ae for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:46:55 -0700 From: Robert Jones Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:46:51 -0500 To: triumphs@autox.team.net engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-21_02:2013-09-20,2013-09-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309210185 Subject: [TR] TR3 Oil Cap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know what type of black the oil cap on the TR3 valve cover was originally? I'm thinking either satin or semi-gloss. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 21:20:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD8E42C57 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:20:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2747C427C7 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.210.65.103]) by p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id U3KG1m0082DgD1y013KHXs; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:19:19 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall'" , References: <000001ceb6e1$9e105390$da30fab0$@uprichard.net> <08.D8.21526.F831E325@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:19:24 -0400 Thread-Index: AQI/Fu7JDfuvypRrm1zYYimmvEeV75jwVqYA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Paint question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall: you are amazing ! My wife wants to know will the tigers win the World Series this year? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan Married to a Tigers fan..... -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:46 PM To: 'Andrew Uprichard'; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] Paint question I've got a 1971 PPG listing that shows code 4540, mixed as 74 parts 9923, 21 parts 9915, 2 parts 9901 and 2 parts 9900. Also a Ditzler code 50816 for 69-71. And DuPont 8511 for 1979. But most likely those codes aren't going to help. The old paint formulations have been outlawed in the US (due to pollution concerns) and there aren't exact matches with the modern formulations. Or so I'm told anyway. Randall > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:46 AM > To: 6pack@autox.team.net; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Paint question > > Sorry to bomb the list, but does anyone have a paint code for Damson > red? > All I have is "Triumph Damson 17". Thanks! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 21:52:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB46042FA7 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:52:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9BC427A5 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTI00DLSD2UJU90@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:44:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "'Robert Jones'" , References: Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:44:49 -0400 Thread-index: AQF3YHaZUMUMxko47HUeP7M3feByApp/ykiA Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Oil Cap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From Triumph Register Judging Guide: The early and late caps are similar in appearance. Both are domed with mesh breather filters in the bottom. The early cap has a flat top profile; the late cap profile has 3 thumb grips, and a round, domed, profile. Early caps are black. Late caps are found painted black or hammer-tone (specific color unknown) gray. Decal. A decal is fitted to the oil filler cap tops. Two basic styles of decals are used. The early decal is divided in a pattern of concentric circles. Later a pie pattern decal was used. The following variations are known: TR2/3 -- Large concentric circle decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Large pie-pattern decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Little concentric circle decal, black with white markings fits caps with thumb-holes. TR3A/3B -- Little pie-pattern decal fits the caps with thumb-holes. TR3B -- Little pie-pattern decal, Red with white markings (only observed on some TR3Bs with hammertone caps). Which really doesn't answer your question... I'd say whatever you feel comfortable with... Carl -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Jones Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:47 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Oil Cap Does anyone know what type of black the oil cap on the TR3 valve cover was originally? I'm thinking either satin or semi-gloss. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 06:52:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6293B42E2A for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f180.google.com (mail-we0-f180.google.com [74.125.82.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341F44042C for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:46:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id u57so2134308wes.11 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QlSvv5VF7KAoSSizqKmxb5iY/6J5jLA86kYLG1/GcZQ=; b=sNHnZQJ4xivty3MYlKdUgfCrYK6hPD293W6Sos2o8MUS4jHIqNLDmpt6pPAc2vL0jI p00jRMveFg7rGYjMggwxqVstWvnU1D5BsNKg2+gtq/Q7036yWIx0xHDilYvFqd7Z0tCh RIC3lj0mLQEDEv3YQkjR/0uzKhyJStSXPsNb7BYnAn6h5XHXnW3riMdYfD6vpGpSU2+t iOvcMK/cJflS7txmQQ55m3foEGwvJ/UntMnJy0wyRmMQof+jmzt5rbIKD43GZ+wZaOfC zowOw3jQPiKYwJJvPUhInVhlWkpsrO9wyTOW/O9IxWGddrA6ldCZVWkgpuXP/HIPcc74 Ow2w== bl3mr13608644wjc.10.1379853985313; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:46:05 -0500 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Non-running TR3B for sale in Saint Louis area by long-term owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A retired university professor here in the Saint Louis area has owned a powder blue 1962 TR3B (TCF56L) since 1966. Car hasn't run since electrical problems sidelined it circa 1977 with around 100k miles, but it's been garaged since then. It had a badly-repaired right side rocker panel once upon a time that has continued to corrode, and that's the only significant rust I noted. Reportedly some minor front and rear end collision work earlier in life. Few modifications done by the current owner, although the first owner had interesting taste in accessories. The car is almost as bought in '66. The project to get it running is now more than they're willing to tackle, so they'd like to find a good next home for the car. They have a couple of interested parties from various corners of the country but are open to any offers. Feel free to send me any notes and I'll forward to Allan and Sandy to put people in touch. Here's a link to a slideshow of 130 images taken in early September. (A bit esoteric, I'll admit, but they were taken for my personal TR3B "originality" file, not to sell the car!) http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=31704017&AlbumKey=L7MT4W Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 07:52:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCAA43013 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458D442782 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hu8so1497194vcb.17 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:48:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uS53YADHMRrPABr+VXUG22sxO/xgmR46r5MKXYkhndg=; b=ZJRVyeOxuBSSNxpqvNqtwupaDEFTffgOBEb4grsVAOH6E3snDYeDyNcOhGpmnLcXlo fCovMRwFbUmoAtD+0QTSYp8tYmqemvnC1XZtpqWhT4m/fmpAuzfLZh0vAJd+GGUUTOWQ o48nQLO5zq93MKvoAR1sVfMzAKFi+KfWIqezY3QErJi/GCX48muZHU551aeAi/w+Kvh1 Y74/xnp42Ba1KmO5FKB468vumOZjOqFtLcOCP+9/7JUGc5hDHfHUQHooKQRF4c/Z22ED vBEFz12Niv7qzhuXmwF8mPIqgaFzMzgcDnG7jaFW+7OVZunZWVt6zMcH0DRN4vh172Km 3FXA== u19mr16771460vce.3.1379857735914; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.200 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:48:55 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 06:48:55 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Don Hiscock Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Non-running TR3B for sale in Saint Louis area by long-term owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What a lot of potential there to be a great driver (or the basis of a restoration). I do not think I have ever seen that rear bumper before (and will be just as happy not to see it again) but it is a remarkable accessory. Geo On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > A retired university professor here in the Saint Louis area has owned a > powder blue 1962 TR3B (TCF56L) since 1966. Car hasn't run since electrical > problems sidelined it circa 1977 with around 100k miles, but it's been > garaged since then. It had a badly-repaired right side rocker panel once > upon a time that has continued to corrode, and that's the only significant > rust I noted. Reportedly some minor front and rear end collision work > earlier in life. Few modifications done by the current owner, although the > first owner had interesting taste in accessories. The car is almost as > bought in '66. > > The project to get it running is now more than they're willing to tackle, > so they'd like to find a good next home for the car. They have a couple of > interested parties from various corners of the country but are open to any > offers. Feel free to send me any notes and I'll forward to Allan and Sandy > to put people in touch. > > Here's a link to a slideshow of 130 images taken in early September. (A > bit esoteric, I'll admit, but they were taken for my personal TR3B > "originality" file, not to sell the car!) > > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=31704017&AlbumKey=L7MT4W > > Don > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 08:08:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA974304F for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064E742FAF for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:55:31 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=FPL-eAq5hhQA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=PAApYZMLS_NnxkofjMEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Vclbc3bNbDt1kk-moAwA:9 a=gvfBO2VpoByw3OXV:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50973] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id CF/7B-00366-4B6FE325; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:55:00 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:00:53 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR4A Progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just have to figure out why my instrument lights aren't working and I will have all my electrical issues resolved. I can't believe it but I am about ready to get license plates so I can start driving it! Still need to finish the interior and get a new top but I can at least start driving it. I do have one question maybe someone can help me with. What thread size is the 3 little screws that hold the scuttle vent to the cowl? I have lost the originals. I am pretty sure it is a machine thread and not a self tapping. Thanks, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 09:59:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA38430C4 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:59:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF33403C8 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:42:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x18so1950281lbi.24 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=k03UF7EPpWf+1jPVsp7wvTiyNk1B12lYU1QGxi1lVtA=; b=d8EtN83yetKrWWEF3aUOXRTrcquPRClkTDh2veaUcMoglKhUh3U32SpP47A335o9x4 uBoK6ojRMNau7MnGeVfeC0CZTyLEtPIVRN7f3QMa9FYOIDlQ57giiwbDt3mfSmb1BuxQ wDkSlfaoQ5OBLVw2w/QOV2rAAqVRNKV6r+0H2eOKj/8+mGPaMEBMvyuPXyJsqfgE7dO0 +iunV9b9VXV2/QgFjJU/FJjgwcjlNuQB7kkMrKeCUDzLRzLaYrfyulq25EEGISzzS2tx wwWBpyP3rgwsS7+QPPII1Dy1z+mh3i9sJu1xJ8qYC38gToNfZfmglvDVbVL36RmonfrH dvyg== h3mr16106656lab.13.1379864522612; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:41:42 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] 1993 Summer Party Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My lovely bride bought me a British Car Show video a few years ago. It was supposed to have a video of some 600+ cars, etc. I finally got the DVD player hooked up in the garage and went to watch it. What I found was a fairly poor copy of a low budget video made during the 1993 TRF summer party. And I happened to have attended it!!! Even better. Only disapointed it was not a higher quality video - the rest was great. Just wanted to share. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 10:31:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3131143122 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:31:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E92430A1 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:10:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id z5so1968281lbh.14 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=iK+fdCi9+yL/3iRhlxDnZYqczhE/+c6Ult9STi8IUXA=; b=zKY4zy6yfLyIBhG8L7HE9s9qSpuZvNNuqsQPWmZXcZY70Y6wNrpDxzcuNmZpGrW+DB XqPoZI61OaC+DU64RXnTZndS7sb+z7Jh5MTdQx+nIzUPtZnGI6yEz77/0k5NbLFTI3V4 tAczLrqrHoo1kBbkUaDS+P4n0Js0fM/EbNHZ7YyK8joMSQa/FkqE1ITMUHJUvS4kIQCy mekne7o5pwhFRAtT3/H+d+xp9y8ArWkl5A7qETxK0b1RcdCkF30OlpD3Qh3p+id2LEIj JGb9Fhw4zHjeiFLEERHEz+2VyCrP4PPUEjxOGGWoknzZSghGmOjYTcfrqo+49rsTepan dV4A== zt3mr15698912lbb.11.1379866211800; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:09:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <5721B5C1D8AA40D386C18D18EEAAEE38@DaveLaptop> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:09:51 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A Progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How timely - I just removed my vent cowl from the TR4. I wish I had the name of the engineer that designed that - I would his name in my book of shame!!! 10-32 x 1/2 -- shorter is probably better -- I used stainless since they were so hard to get out the first time -- some 15 years later I'm having to replace the vent due to rust. Took a good half hour to remove those 3 screws!!!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 11:30:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FCF431F9 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4401443146 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:03:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id jx11so1726513veb.35 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8kQ0x3buc7jEkinLKmpyVOJWFSVU6lE35QSYJnFLunU=; b=jQuuK2Ha4gtaFxsEsCY4FaskrjtLRh0P1Us3s0HcsMpDtOVJHpPvzLn1ITOMFP4T5p 7p4VS+ot4022BeE6a+yrLo16E81a95lSqpW+ZaYckjRzEgUhqZ4Tu67mfjbU0jklNBsw z8Ed4paLgT/mH7z3jHgfLNR2YenBoddjLee5gdhXpDJlFs96Z1SDCtmB8QbUxR+iflJ8 dHYE78ppMOS061HBUIQcTU5Woj/8tDGNJ+SRioiKRNEnkVPIzy0xkd2g/EbPz8LPgmVx AmoyFOEKRENlSez/QbvoPeEER/wJRYuWnGSLYo5wdSKjIwQI1CkOLmA7454GbiTCRk5r MEqw== sx6mr14684688vdc.15.1379869396231; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.200 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <5721B5C1D8AA40D386C18D18EEAAEE38@DaveLaptop> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:03:16 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A Progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You'll probably want to do a trial fit to assure the back edge of the bonnet clears / does not bind on the front edge of the flap. As I recall I had to oval the holes just a bit to get a fit I liked. Geo On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > How timely - I just removed my vent cowl from the TR4. I wish I had the > name of the engineer that designed that - I would his name in my book of > shame!!! > > 10-32 x 1/2 -- shorter is probably better -- I used stainless since they > were so hard to get out the first time -- some 15 years later I'm having to > replace the vent due to rust. Took a good half hour to remove those 3 > screws!!!! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 14:06:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F148942F54 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:06:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E1E43476 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 19:35:53 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.193] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 19:35:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 19:35:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 77850 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2013 19:35:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379878552; bh=p/KI6DHUyiKb1063OcXmpV0OQ8YDY3h16zGCs5fIKnA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0n2a3dSMQ/VVREeT4OtIAmmV4fEE445QcoeC8leuKOFRRWJGtCyYXNY6OIx7r8IJV57+nIc1XUgrcIMQqQYRU5VFQiCenquv1nboRBAGinLCQ3BdCd53Qya3cxRW+WEJEDdDG0LcMQE6lgkfippLaeFtoyfj+b9KlgMgWRCdSQA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yFB2TnN1awzSDEGP7KVZCteTIwjs5lklMB3v2LZXPoQ8Wld2Hnu0yYOuIb6X1XS2Cc14W+Tq0sG6skOpeYEcdoKTimZl9Dzzyr3Lf+jxROZCg2BLxe3EZnYsbTdfs9n3nC83f/g0DGCjrvAhZoN/mzYFMwBkok68EN4Uz1JfFOc=; t6bDgt8Mg30zp.qLIg6.2Mb.Ns8nQ2Wdki4TVNE47Ey0AFpSk95DbWQObgyT NX7AdqJM.3KnZ0vXI2GtWu3TseECKev6Gm5b.aZe6TK.jEeDBp94nYZu3nK9 B7bdR2LJjZNfMsLurinAGdcB8a21e.Ih05jawB2BHc79AMfZMhC3CNkc52pU 71pr4IDwSproVm6cSuUxjJw4ApX51aL2TzhHbu_8z0db2iKFsWNIAF619bZD 8MpvpokTl.5Q5fTIsPYPfS3aT.r6_T.hqxJeY3UZ9pCEkBtnrqW85v8jhRLL .gD2we1NOcL7WPBfmdyjE2hpntOHyTt6Q1j7nBOi3XM4gTJnzT7MKZQA..2o .eeu6FS7l2X65UD2l4craEKTFHyDJvuU9F9spEOR1jbmNYrPMBEG4W2UvsEJ OQa4JiDYaveFt_Pg42_gYWoOEhFGAX0.orSEnobzfBuabb3j03HLfI4SJ_P5 PaBd8802lisVEI8nN2I6wiIT_LCwe.iLzLhOd6ScfDPyY0sVWNqzR5VmkPNb bu5W_Fgwk6LLr8u_i1luEyUfUoQ-- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:35:52 PDT SSd2ZSByZWNlbnRseSBiZWNvbWUgaW50ZXJlc3RlZCBpbiB0aGUgb2xkIHJhbGx5cy9lbmR1cmFuY2UgcmFjZXMgaW4gRXVyb3BlIGR1cmluZyB0aGUgNTAncyBhbmQgNjAncywgc3VjaCBhcyB0aGUgbWlsbGUgbWlnbGlhLi4uLi5kYWthci4uLi4uLm1vbnRlIGNhcmxvLi4uLi4uZWN0LsKgIEFyZSB0aGVyZSBhbnkgZ29vZCBib29rcyB3cml0dGVuIGFib3V0IHRob3NlIHJhY2VzLCBwb3NzaWJseSBmaXJzdCBwZXJzb24gYWNjb3VudHMsIHRoYXQgYW55b25lIGhhcyByZWFkIG9yIGFyZSBhd2FyZSBvZj_CoCABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] triumph/british related reading Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've recently become interested in the old rallys/endurance races in Europe during the 50's and 60's, such as the mille miglia.....dakar......monte carlo......ect. Are there any good books written about those races, possibly first person accounts, that anyone has read or are aware of? Would not have to be specifically triumph or british. I'm thinking ahead to the non driving winter time here in Iowa and love reading what the "old guys" from years ago went through in these events. thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 05:57:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F7342711 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:57:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D749240431 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9CFE47000008C for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 70155E000085 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:28:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:28:04 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379935684; bh=JJBpsJb59XNbCYvXtGYkrZn9XvHmVc+65oRqusKpvKo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cUiUIednf48UhwB3I1PJzS5DXthJJiwKsr0jjGA+1fRp7xy3fhcXBKNnBCS+GLctm 4VBOYdZc7kReVJZeRGMQzGm5TP0XeLvP/AaIqpCrMSzsPIomB4h2JAy4spSZ6NjD+8 lyqcupyzgkKfXS6wZSmvFdZ6gXuFRSygIY3/Syzo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c524025c47ac2 Subject: Re: [TR] 1993 Summer Party Video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Who did she get it from? Her PI? ;-) Just kidding. Dave In a message dated 9/22/2013 10:58:13 AM Central Daylight Time, ccsimonsen@gmail.com writes: > My lovely bride bought me a British Car Show video a few years ago. It > was > supposed to have a video of some 600+ cars, etc. > > I finally got the DVD player hooked up in the garage and went to watch it. > What I found was a fairly poor copy of a low budget video made during the > 1993 TRF summer party. And I happened to have attended it!!! Even > better. > > Only disapointed it was not a higher quality video - the rest was great. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 11:54:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4769142F9C for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63A34293B for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.162] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 17:34:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.174] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 17:34:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 17:34:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379957699; bh=KG/W7MLsKh/Zwi1xSLFyzQX2DhRZOYmsfVPtzITz3wY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=5VtPoA4BI0kRhgCksxbLOjrdJeI0OQMnJ/sdXV8dfGjfe9QeNf9lCRP1S+J1b7saHt1Muskoc9HRPBM5nHlufNakg/92EdsYj7Lk2/8YhVyZnzvZpz8vDBgIfsgiQpUddH5HsteuP3MyADjf2gqplZtpKpPl4V4YGSLu8jdCSHk= 9fFtt.SxFVB2R8_Un7TBOTrGpPn4RgbnmN7RlGR9GMI_iGu6JZFAI7CCjefJ .k9n683RLdtuTzVbmdSYY_Cv_obnVu1yIWpdx7BC98JeCStcPinBcGZ_V.d7 GwZAcy8ieMHR.PAIDL2JoS.lRabAntfza4B9Z8qQa9r7qtLeb0MOPJfhdsxj sYD7.v5GS5CKNZA3dgI6otO782L7.EJqaUYj9rWRbxyGn4mLesejQ.i6da_6 _3FJ20xBowowM9wp4mTwNpRxRAc9wOc1hj9FQA4WFhW5WDU4co2XwE6sTwWA eOjQcISqWG8HEDJxMGlNRB045vj_7E3gHGHUWfkwB3AMoKtzvmiKAy7lgdw1 kPOzPR7grNj3qS12zKVyQIUaF6w493mo08NFgX507Ug0Ks4Tdjm2txOXtsrI UV.yL1FlXzrEWLDw8Ec3AkQPjDkWLwh4n9CnDA1078ipb6wz79ZHHIotgFVa fC.b65eW8fZ0W.ZW5SzfAqgipznBUNJv5FRTe6cKiR3smEWFqlh.5lofum79 W6SLQ0U327OV_r80MHLqJ.d7SLBE.kRr58qsw2ss1jaN4gJK_zobm048WlxS DIOgmVEWayUov9T4p34tVn6IEmX5xGOtm9Gu0BMHIMnoPcRKj1JTPeYWYi.b JCvtD9z5O25yj6wyIsrdfmAFc2s7T8ns7u2QRlzLepmMIw7OE9JwyBVNGXHn L0vgT smtp108.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2013 10:34:59 -0700 PDT From: To: "'TR3/6'" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:34:34 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac64gx4WdNafZanAR6GFpA8ZmpopyQ== Subject: [TR] Smith Instruments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Out searching for gauges for the 3B and ran across this interesting bit of history in the form of an article in Hemmings last year. http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2012/06/01/hmn_feature18.html Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 12:46:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CD242FEA for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB814041E for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id y10so3525719pdj.36 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0ghtlvTa87I98DqxBKa8JMnTj6yAxBtpotV8uCll0M0=; b=EQLA0mY/RvWE9suD2webnFrRoios7llJQG0NjtSqV2j/3RoZkdBGvXi8O/OwkiGKBq I3MGXPOwldzd43c4XMcHQeAs1FyyWs+kzSFdtCA7V9EeJCmiTnPejJYqQeWj/z7dm/Zh SlulzrYLerV0ceb12zud0LVaLOx1B0XYh3OpdjlM3Db11/MdlRauEXD59IE2uAp4gzs5 s0FkIlkNPQVgHLpkZcdb8LPBOCmR2LtPgMfOEojJN6+iJwkDyd14+27E4EtoJIptq6Qz E4PNZMI5/KQWHdWK+zBo2WJAmLX7Mpr7upKzOr1BX4ljAbbMp+OdPXbUrwpMq4E/o3QO KjvA== ii1mr2800221pbc.185.1379960094048; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.153.103 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:14:53 +0100 From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: bill_beecher@flash.net Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Smith Instruments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks so much for that really interesting article on Smiths Industries. Little snippets like this are so informative. Adrian TR4A CT64306 O Wales UK On 23 September 2013 18:34, wrote: > Out searching for gauges for the 3B and ran across this interesting bit of > history in the form of an article in Hemmings last year. > > http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2012/06/01/hmn_feature18.html > > > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > > "Keep Calm and Carry On" > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 13:27:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A771E403F6 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A5B42FB8 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.165] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 19:03:21 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 19:03:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 19:03:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379963001; bh=th8M1IjAPf3fmtzre7/KC2JB9PniAG0JmT2YdpBHQbo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=XeAd3NMPzGkbP9Y64PjFtDbS86YYPd2Vvnv6IeHxDoWVu0cAhx4bZE8W1j3Sm9wnqHAv9bl13iCls1sUm5lU46jYoIV+AQ0HPGUZEuyAvPHSVUUJrr/l1nMd+2XmeoSZU7o2nKLFj8uggkhs3L6OEEBD324OZ0JAcRWq3egwPL0= TJPtV5A9UghJ6Axjk7VvGMjDU2bwV3qMzBXtWG94BsjNnveiYXhym9vEhskp Yhh_pZ8jpZI94qLTnxrQnUGVdmaoaWkoh7EMzj9kEwhzFokWL4t3Y5Enx2en dX1AarOC6_.57YrfQlPP90OSe7cLyJpnlnG39Ouq84XstNjIQUG7YNJBfLmU .QKCgzoEDnXZr2wwa5Ah4kOox4X.RqldM23j7GiRxQx8ZQ0H5XXvYZP7coTB Aopo__Rd8EpOWOqnboEuWPENXPQL6sG98Z2GV9aQAdVIqiopnXR0ytEND_Gt Yq3iQ.U36H.Kt_mUB53SEpiwLwDKZwZ5MtmvaXbu2Il2UkLWwl3pUOkSOdfL _ccDMGy75aa9hzVBl.vSVMtJTzLlCZd88xz82WB8asgyol2hnLa9PS3UphDB 4DWAaW4PajtXaOxLHPEHydVesUJ0nb9.g6E5HaKkgL1825zOO1OBfo2ZPILT UmDhhiw.Qbh_bS4l9vT2aV19euuNKCVRoJnefdg.6w8ohaFE6AxS8_qS4UOL MnQl2YeIQ9A8psO7srTV8xd7oQacp2FpjbBkAjwLaPrI4WfaBirWT6ZjbUCU lclMZrGinW5QbY6cuF8BbEH_Coog5fppkaMDEKtlkCFoDGIzUW7mrg3TTrVW SgHuCum1L.SfhIa87Zxo- smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2013 12:03:21 -0700 PDT From: To: "'TR3/6'" Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:02:51 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac64j3DuQ8JUkEOlRWS1tKwnj/6pJA== Subject: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone ever had any dealings with APT Instruments? Ran across their web site while poking around for replacement gauges, never heard of them before. http://www.gaugeguys.com/s &h.htm Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 13:43:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A46B431FF for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:43:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nmsh4.e.nsc.no (nmsh4.e.nsc.no [193.213.121.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5520403F3 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (88.122.202.84.customer.cdi.no [84.202.122.88]) by nmsh4.nsc.no (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8NJI6CX020667 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:18:07 +0200 (MEST) From: David Griffiths Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:18:06 +0200 To: Triumph_send_message Subject: [TR] Triumph Herald covered 20 miles in 52 years Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-24204080 Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 14:26:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED93F40043 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E47430FF for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:59:14 -0600 (MDT) a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:17 a=iRRDuIpxfTgA:10 a=KfYLXsKEmnsA:10 a=-RW2kqOmRSYA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=KWfykil82iAA:10 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=qiLaWbH9CQYDqamVR5UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=uEUms-db0kQA:10 a=rcu_HvvFyWoA:10 a=uuYe_i0zRHWYs25V:21 a=RCp_2PHB9QNefcR2:21 a=nXQKLQ0v+ANWqi+PIAtHAA==:117 Received: from [67.249.131.108] ([67.249.131.108:60086] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F3/D7-02184-D6D90425; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:58:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:58:49 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 CC: Triumph_send_message References: Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Herald covered 20 miles in 52 years Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Heck I drove my 6 that many miles the other day just to drop by the hot dog stand for lunch. Talk about NOS. Bob On 09/23/2013 03:18 PM, David Griffiths wrote: > >From BBC news: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-24204080 > > Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 14:42:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F5F42F32 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:42:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FAE40404 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.1] helo=mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VOCVC-0004Cf-R9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:13:02 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VOCVC-0004so-Cp; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:13:02 -0400 Received: from webmail14.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.14]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id UkD11m01l0JCG4S01kD1pH; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:13:01 -0400 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=QoHBTMOkf9sA:10 a=bE9a0O4PAAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hV9G8f3WR2dHFjd3ZScA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=n2W/kC2S0AwmpNK9BEHj3A==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail14.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VOCUr-0000cu-Jp; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:12:41 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:12:41 -0400 References: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:12:41 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: bill_beecher@flash.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: 'TR3/6' Subject: Re: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, this is a local business for me. From the outside, their shop is not impressive. It's the guys on the inside who will impress you with their work. They are also an authorized Smith distributor. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Anyone ever had any dealings with APT Instruments? Ran across their web > site while poking around for replacement gauges, never heard of them > before. > > http://www.gaugeguys.com/s &h.htm > > > Bill > > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "Keep Calm and Carry On > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 14:43:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82223430C8 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6113F4293B for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:23:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Uj881m0091zF43QAFkNY7T; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:22:33 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UkNa1m00m2yr1eL8kkNaVv; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:22:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:22:34 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: bill_beecher@flash.net, triumphs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1379967753; bh=4rRATQkv1hc+wYI9w8QD4jb5GPG7bh9LT2Cf4hQ7gQA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=NrI9Tgna3ABVjOYLWfx0xOZuvDqGtAxQHUb3RUfYOIFrAxpDyWUrS/2YReljMEtMK tt8kF7Hcgd8ITEoZ/984PppQQI3MAPsKUsmLky6I7LeUEnaKFhJN7epxO7Jlo/htad 6hab/NgYIcPnMiVsQWEDVAeF3eqOnf1/G6ntKgqA3HdzmAYiQJj8XxyAOZz1rNpkQb VtPvX55KdRHxM8rly//70SbW2w3KSHlSIn4Gh3rIEGUAnz/yrQwFX2D04wS+cCf6El tmm7CFeqlu4GLQyUpxvwTGTvtJ2zwr6Yl6fdgpi7V28n7YSa1WYMsUh+RlZsRCyhmc rhN+jBCoQ82MA== Subject: Re: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Many years ago. First-rate outfit in Bloomington Minnesota. They gutted my inoperative Lotus Europa rev counter and put in new electronic stuff. Cleaned and reassembled it looked like a brand new stock unit. Made the speedo look a little shabby by comparison. Unlike the stocker this one was warranted to be accurate. Original Message=================== Anyone ever had any dealings with APT Instruments? Ran across their web site while poking around for replacement gauges, never heard of them before. http://www.gaugeguys.com/s &h.htm Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 17:43:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C4C431FA for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC09C42F59 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:24:31 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=PUMWg4bhUkwA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=7P7ZtBURwui9aOI9y_cA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Ai1nV3EZE5Ttsj2kRHYA:9 a=xZNqjgPHN2f8GZl9:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50449] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id F6/FB-28056-98DC0425; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:23:53 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:29:48 -0400 Subject: [TR] Getting close on the TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I figured out how to post videos on YouTube and have one of a walk around the car and one of the engine running. Just do a search on DAVESTR4A. They aren't very long but you can see the car. I have a overheating problem that I think is related to a air bubble in the thermostat housing? First symptom is that the temperature gauge doesn't work and the fuel gauge does. Second symptom is that the top radiator hose expanded about 50% larger before things started leaking. At first I thought the sending unit on the temp. gauge was bad because i shorted the sending unit wire to ground and the gauge went full scale so I ordered a new sensor. After I ordered it, I got to thinking that maybe the entire thermostat housing was all air inside so the thermostat never opens which forces the top hose expansion. Well, I tore one of the gaskets in the thermostat housing last night trying to run without a thermostat and decided it would be a good time to quit. I know I checked the thermostat before I installed it and it opened about 190 or so. I couldn't get to it tonight but thought I would share my problem and see if anybody agrees. Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 18:14:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE2B42AE9 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7143018 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.91.12.adsl.snet.net [69.0.91.12]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Mhi4R-1VBn7j2X7j-00MRna; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:48:27 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: , References: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:48:24 -0400 z+5dkn6lmpi2amGmO/9XmIn8KKEuaBfwUE81R7solnMMd3jOLV D5F9SxvL4pBLer9xYej9H7HgcKagP7DedsWCHNIBgcNlBHeyor SF/DZTj/w78AHoSa/rkRn1H/TWGrFoOx+alSMi5kop/36EykNE cfW56aUl1x3FmIuQyrSENad7YnGDgM3dRUMzhEAA5Ff4v7I5Yf ZlwtvmkvYds48HFf6E1UgXzCUySRh6LRz/9HM37WxKxWiFEwpR 1/NX1byCkw1KGKpbR0zOrsUT2PZaSQ6M8lAxQXLuf9RpozYjap edolQEYPbIZy9cwxmmuQQvaNZhgA2gFFr9DyB9fcu Subject: Re: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Most of the guys in 6-Pack have been sending their gauges to Morris Mintz at West Valley Instruments (http://westvalleyinstruments.com/). Over the years I've had him refurbish and recalibrate my Speedo and Tach but his work goes all the way to re-facing gauges too. I've always loved Magnolia style gauges and this summer I had him (actually he has an artist who does the face work) re-face my speedo and tach in Magnolia...... he also converted the tach to electronic and the speedo to GPS. I can't believe how dead accurate the GPS speedo is.......... I've gone through those radar signs that show your speed and I've had my wife following me and it's spot on at all speeds. Morris also guarantees his work for 1 year........ and he delivers on time as promised. Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: bill_beecher@flash.net Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:02 PM To: 'TR3/6' Subject: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Anyone ever had any dealings with APT Instruments? Ran across their web site while poking around for replacement gauges, never heard of them before. http://www.gaugeguys.com/s &h.htm Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Keep Calm and Carry On ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 18:14:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6073242E84 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3EA43201 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id e15so2795287vbg.18 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qKq/vZvUFCOVY+bSvlS6YIMirop52+gZuZ1tdcYs4RE=; b=sVRCsbKv4n3nBli3HBu+CtPVcbnxNKAjexk3HmRzXEhLE4dOAfaMVl/XBLhwHIY2Sf cePUjGMKQFVrM63r72cWKeJS53XFvcajg7rhK2HEVqunGGsUjKv6zTH/O6MgtF3hmw3w CDpXY0Lu7D8mg8sY1y2a2lI6mz4lb8xRrow/TZuunCi2T87iYqV1oh5/rBnpK2Fo3wWG IR/qsFtt+kDU1gAAXqOwWa8vuf2yD0lovnQM/RijHC9/8db6pS7Cch2sr99mVXWf+OsV wA8EM13W9FUDBH5Svpg7/80LXtXGOWIyHsaDdVx3xwH0+gZxya9fLMmHvKK9Ofdgnycg aGQw== pj1mr3747482vec.24.1379980561961; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.200 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:01 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:01 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Getting close on the TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave - I always drill a little hole in the thermostat (some come that way) just to be sure the system fills well. But having said that, from your description I would be more suspicious of the radiator cap than the thermostat. More car parts places (even chains) have a loaner tester for the radiator cap. Geo On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > I figured out how to post videos on YouTube and have one of a walk around > the > car and one of the engine running. > Just do a search on DAVESTR4A. They aren't very long but you can see the > car. > I have a overheating problem that I think is related to a air bubble in the > thermostat housing? > First symptom is that the temperature gauge doesn't work and the fuel gauge > does. > Second symptom is that the top radiator hose expanded about 50% larger > before > things started leaking. > At first I thought the sending unit on the temp. gauge was bad because i > shorted the sending unit wire to ground and the gauge went full scale so I > ordered a new sensor. > After I ordered it, I got to thinking that maybe the entire thermostat > housing > was all air inside so the thermostat never opens which forces the top hose > expansion. > Well, I tore one of the gaskets in the thermostat housing last night > trying to > run without a thermostat and decided it would be a good time to quit. I > know I > checked the thermostat before I installed it and it opened about 190 or so. > I couldn't get to it tonight but thought I would share my problem and see > if > anybody agrees. > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 18:15:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FC642F9E for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D39A43201 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:59:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i3so2760067vbh.40 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eopoGFuzNgkhzavEuFUK8DtMKVyiEkJ8ZQNR/iQ8qEI=; b=WCFZkZLP8aUyxqSiOlJ9Lur+9QPQrjW9iIeSLtB9x0Z0TvIr85X70Tzy07N+oZ5YUt fX9ZrxtkRsauPK0YOm52ZA0dLYvwEVkHRDwiRJIgDPgDJeRkUTmXmA/XuqweMiSZ3Yrl wllFoc0BQVke7BRSG9YRSaJysCQC+Zh+Bpyh8sv05RZs+Y/5oajq1Rbcm1hhQTQwyDP+ 8mFwcDqLzgw78EleYZzUQDhlam5uXNBNhwZbSablLTE7fCaAHRZvFpFbHXdU3b6UUgJQ mceQ25ljS2zci9rBEeul2kxLAOjennWccX3XT8PFz5LAkTVKP1wyQNqe/MkEE3tcZ1lZ R+yA== xr20mr24416756veb.2.1379980724055; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.26.200 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:58:44 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Getting close on the TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here are some links to your vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC6Ts2lZ6o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb5r9BwFWeM Nice! Geo On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Dave - > > I always drill a little hole in the thermostat (some come that way) just > to be sure the system fills well. But having said that, from your > description I would be more suspicious of the radiator cap than the > thermostat. > > More car parts places (even chains) have a loaner tester for the radiator > cap. > > Geo > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > >> I figured out how to post videos on YouTube and have one of a walk around >> the >> car and one of the engine running. >> Just do a search on DAVESTR4A. They aren't very long but you can see the >> car. >> I have a overheating problem that I think is related to a air bubble in >> the >> thermostat housing? >> First symptom is that the temperature gauge doesn't work and the fuel >> gauge >> does. >> Second symptom is that the top radiator hose expanded about 50% larger >> before >> things started leaking. >> At first I thought the sending unit on the temp. gauge was bad because i >> shorted the sending unit wire to ground and the gauge went full scale so I >> ordered a new sensor. >> After I ordered it, I got to thinking that maybe the entire thermostat >> housing >> was all air inside so the thermostat never opens which forces the top hose >> expansion. >> Well, I tore one of the gaskets in the thermostat housing last night >> trying to >> run without a thermostat and decided it would be a good time to quit. I >> know I >> checked the thermostat before I installed it and it opened about 190 or >> so. >> I couldn't get to it tonight but thought I would share my problem and see >> if >> anybody agrees. >> Dave Connitt >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 19:30:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD8543067 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DB542F06 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id UpEZ1m00B2QmmGk01pEa2U; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:14:35 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <9C56B644A44F4F3B9040D30CD1B15964@BobDell> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:00:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net morris mintz is the best! -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:48 PM To: bill_beecher@flash.net ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] APT Instrument repairs Most of the guys in 6-Pack have been sending their gauges to Morris Mintz at West Valley Instruments (http://westvalleyinstruments.com/). Over the years I've had him refurbish and recalibrate my Speedo and Tach but his work goes all the way to re-facing gauges too. I've always loved Magnolia style gauges and this summer I had him (actually he has an artist who does the face work) re-face my speedo and tach in Magnolia...... he also converted the tach to electronic and the speedo to GPS. I can't believe how dead accurate the GPS speedo is.......... I've gone through those radar signs that show your speed and I've had my wife following me and it's spot on at all speeds. Morris also guarantees his work for 1 year........ and he delivers on time as promised. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 10:35:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F194038C for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47745400A5 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:03:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V0iP1m0091vN32cA342qxN; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:02:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V42p1m00D4L5TyG8i42pT1; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:02:50 +0000 From: Bud R To: David Griffiths Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:02:49 -0600 References: s=q20121106; t=1380038570; bh=xFMDgzTYcheTqANVNWZjwOdEl8ee9poEusoTHrGGRK0=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=HHxfyO9CEsvzZAy3rs+m8FpvfI0yvrLL84L8KE7WUGr7SDRFkyPTLKt7s1g8vduqY yfTdddlkBFbrm8q8cF20WuS9b/JJtR30tljeshpx0ai2FUljiYG8+p90pIbhMh+KOu 9i5q2wJN7WGgtXdorhvgFdqlLb3AIwzzTNVAeK8QeB747SHiNSS4PWnRHs+LhWX2Fx kC8MwcnvCEGTqGNM8oSc1/wP7OjEHu0uK73wf5BJPW/nOYkvth2RGH4KQfchYpaWKu Vc2n+0NdFedf08gc/5BU+V9qF1kCdOravfOhSWWf4VeSB8qwYerSBfEAE36cN2FwJQ L+mhA5UwSdIZw== Cc: Triumph_send_message Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Herald covered 20 miles in 52 years Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Other than likely needing all new seals it's a beauty. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Sep 23, 2013, at 1:18 PM, David Griffiths wrote: > From BBC news: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-24204080 > > Dave > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 11:06:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47544038C for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC2840323 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cb5so4169478wib.4 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:15:40 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uRT5RmBXqnqQINVKuS1kvgWGKrS8VBhAICfMsufwAmc=; b=Xre8f4PCVCDoIEbd4XtX+8JikqFEz6TodblAbM810ksdA2ZV0DBCHjzEchjOKBQr1D evvFSq+sQ2iCRTGBNZXssmE8CAQv4quKdxxrHgSvF/XucbSI/HI9gUAyROO02PLriflG QTmzY27ZACxhG1SJWV2HSZIXWn26yQOWqfcvicC6SYOoY/E5CTWk7VSSIHTsvujpdYfd AmjP4wLjso6OnhMwnmbh+9q1GfIPUDtGcz7/IxUJ7QZ4x+cMiJnPvoYH39oRIOs6OCFv gKIrw6WK+XLLwmC7ylRy73e4nKE/4au7tygf7kLCb66G/nsAUA7AG/qD1knGsjb01Xv0 gONQ== bs19mr18666655wib.15.1380039340667; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:15:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:15:20 -0400 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Works TR3s at Goodwood Revival 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For those who might be interested the two works TR3s at this year's Goodwood Revival, here's a slideshow of 38 photos taken last week. SRW992 was car number 33 at the 1957 Sebring race, driven by Bob Oker and Ed Pennybacker. SHP520 was a 1957 Mille Miglia car. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=32061434&AlbumKey=trkL7S There's obviously a ton that's been replaced and modified on these cars, but enough remains to satisfy the British DVLA that they're entitled to the original registration numbers. No photos of them on the track during the Fordwater Trophy race, alas. The last three photos are of the cars returning through the paddock post-race. There's a lot of tiny detail that might be interesting to some, if a bit esoteric. Note the clever cutout switch on the Beige/Sunset Red car -- routed through the demister vents and clamped to the windscreen stanchion plate in a fully-reversible mouting. For anyone considering it, a trip to the Goodwood Revival is HIGHLY recommended. A simply amazing event. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 12:13:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78373403DA for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:13:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39214009A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V1vW1m00B0QkzPwA35i0si; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:42:00 +0000 Received: from Dell ([67.188.0.29]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V5hz1m00M0dYjAz8N5hzhK; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:41:59 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "Triumph List \(Triumph List\)" Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:42:05 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac65TWJtjas/MDGdTfmw+plrp+wU6w== Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1380044520; bh=9gmNT6zO71JOZO8s4C1ecWHdP2IVD9vp+rRjfUtoBos=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DbMV4kP5kxTzyVAVBpvcriDl+G0+tJ8U/S7xt+xvK5swZCD/HkFzJoM/JMde/cvRM Omsc29TYHJ/kyOFsvBkGGMGVKF87o/9NikPTC1ea2aKkuvwJ5+qddLRQaKYEpXpxLK scKMXTxL/yJgr+16qqohbA7vT6gSz1jxkupo+FRZRuqyPnBAohMVUsRtcK2szZcbQI t2bM1Q0sDFH3LD7Pqc+TrLhbZA9W1W+WTxSsoGtgkgctkcEX49kZZ6iHfc+eCGxNOv f1Y5XBEYFt8VnRv0PSDSp2hIZN342R4obPA0vGAHjXe9ZJUpl1T6V+807jXHOhK3uj gT6CrF+GAG3+A== Subject: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 14:40:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D5B403D3 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15B040329 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q8so4147050lbi.25 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=N5Bn02L6oIHeWLOHN5H/14r0k7I9qR6TCG4jyHIo+jE=; b=d9iZBQ5xnbRnFKcckiIap8gGTnOt5ChpHRux0aFI9oG/9t4NRDkkwh/WZT9Cr8JRnF NJfIEgPYbWsROPo1dnMCFSUfutYuy27v4uaw62dm1FdWlwZddBoYGgmj9OiibE+1Bs+y QXPfZFOki9o6rrcv61jV/SOD9LcE+jBIoHZ8UrKj24HZb/qsn8sWAwvvhojyCkfpp3M0 aTjNl7eb5xIYiloXyjwRn4u+MSW4AJd1pHZpSCw79UYom4MEdzeEsgCI9qJpNQAjzr1H LK4Jtl9avgCsAS5Pxa3emAI+smse471Q9z2xvCfetJGhTW7e2p+YLTHPatC1k/HKq+3u zmzA== 18mr25305670lbh.18.1380051904857; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:44:44 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Herald covered 20 miles in 52 years Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR2 went less than that in the 30 years after I started college. We are making up for lost time now! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 16:42:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A435403D3 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:42:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2313A40356 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id vb8so5609733obc.4 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:49:35 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pxqzd3CbVCUhvkOMoY6FuMnk64RijpFH4hwV/ZPIcvA=; b=P6672ijDAvoi8MIR63IYXaGyuFR4ZdQWnjBTbz3uIIE3601R8Smpw0EaoFeFgdybvR hDT8fdUHgL855wMKJ0X28ZdD12YjXniaulOvv3kTZM27GfSLOaLHTjn0dqOWwfpyfm/x +EFqPomiV3Yc73WQfhW61Q80muDPl5R/KNPTY/GGufQBkNE19/R1sov0GP/Ha63X/l+9 XHZTJhdKVSL3kZ4bjou2Z0alk5qdarnB3EkSMHq0TynH0+eS7OzNYzAcx0Rd42pkTe/B zfgMst5r9TSY0SqPUxZWhxXlv2V1SUtJiFIMhmsV+FIm2qhJJ/TMwWazLyVSM3cktb42 Ckqg== ge2mr27190923obb.6.1380059375612; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bq4sm24864678obb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:49:31 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <003d01ceb94d$62d464b0$287d2e10$@net> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/24/13 10:42 AM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? > > Not me. The local accommodations were just too expensive for me to afford along with the entry fee & fuel to drive that distance. :( TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 17:12:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CE9403DA for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EDE400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:22:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V7Zp1m0020QkzPwABAMTQd; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:21:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VAMR1m00K4L5TyG8NAMSnc; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:21:26 +0000 From: Bud R To: kinderlehrer@comcast.net Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:21:25 -0600 References: <003d01ceb94d$62d464b0$287d2e10$@net> s=q20121106; t=1380061287; bh=GqoH1q7pOQRK0JmqXkOygjvT9MMuaztWQ+ndqMJ5UoM=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=RlA+7M3vEWewEDf61lIRUuiuVs6WzRYqu5plbPh42Y64Fm9hjZIYb7kbT6H8Yeuaj fIRQpCQ3HMtL6RmsKUw4/FSNgu2+eV/ocXZyGMEkH+Q1BSk+6t/e1CQ7U/AzpZAIvl CDbBQXtl3i5mn1ZNwyrJ0k+iAzw758P3rRKWdLB7t9sYSkVUplPWQRGNc/k+fV9olF hS/+y8GTzHcLEEEyRURHncieqsjH7VhiE6XVnOvXwlLqTJIUIkU/TouzL7J2uKzd9r 3olnSfzVQ7p5JPolBSlS1gtnsrePV+JyL/OypWDCNmwuc2GwKxLnYtkXU2vw+DZzcv zcJU5uQziNvMg== Cc: "Triumph List \(Triumph List\)" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Weather willing, I'll be there. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? > > > > Bob > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 17:15:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081F74038B for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:15:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB713400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:28:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V2WC1m00G0vp7WLA5ATnNg; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:27:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.8] ([98.255.164.156]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VATm1m00U3NmwNy8RATmAL; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:27:47 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:27:46 -0700 References: To: Don Hiscock s=q20121106; t=1380061667; bh=bKiNjXY//8/sZ8ZDajcLnGPnpq7W+odKZ50I7Oare24=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=LKou9d09yqgDjgwMaUo0dBUGlYrUhpbs/lWO8pVDJxY6V6EAjN0tVHCklaYJMIN/O xWpymAYj4ty/i1vy5ba5tWQCk4QKP1JBlal5wv6nlZZWmjSEh8JosWwoMzbbCPGukp 50VtFGHx0E/3++fSx9zHicenqi5G4Wi0FN+4YuVyOVM8/hjotZtPrmKEa9uRhqXQEC u6j0ZaNSJNs9lvw2HXt7VKVIXVvyO8REVL7xVM4cPXG8wm/PLgrWWEJdafDNALcPQ3 8mp1avcLQISRJIfHks1JVVLSgfFVquYQj4nw1QhcoLRCtNZ426GRa2ylMmnOhoitJG F6YDzdqBnzz8Q== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Works TR3s at Goodwood Revival 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I will heartily second going to Goodwood, it is simply amazing, you will never regret going there. and I told folks that my TR3 was legal with door handles b& no one believed the existence of the "Continental Kit". On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > For those who might be interested the two works TR3s at this year's > Goodwood Revival, here's a slideshow of 38 photos taken last week. SRW992 > was car number 33 at the 1957 Sebring race, driven by Bob Oker and Ed > Pennybacker. SHP520 was a 1957 Mille Miglia car. > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=32061434&AlbumKey=trkL7S > > There's obviously a ton that's been replaced and modified on these cars, > but enough remains to satisfy the British DVLA that they're entitled to the > original registration numbers. No photos of them on the track during the > Fordwater Trophy race, alas. The last three photos are of the cars > returning through the paddock post-race. > > There's a lot of tiny detail that might be interesting to some, if a bit > esoteric. Note the clever cutout switch on the Beige/Sunset Red car -- > routed through the demister vents and clamped to the windscreen stanchion > plate in a fully-reversible mouting. > > For anyone considering it, a trip to the Goodwood Revival is HIGHLY > recommended. A simply amazing event. > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.netp ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 17:45:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52B9403B9 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D364038B for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:47:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130924224716.WBSG3894.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:47:16 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.99.82.107]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id VAnG1m00H2Jvvxw01AnGiW; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:47:16 -0400 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=HxQTVSZ2ugkA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=86NXGFvgPxfHXxobdncA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <003d01ceb94d$62d464b0$287d2e10$@net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:47:24 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac65d1Pjvd6nIyFbR8OtcWIpqOXB4gAAJmGw Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I originally planned to go but family and medical issues are forcing me to change the plan. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:50 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphest/VTR On 9/24/13 10:42 AM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? > > Not me. The local accommodations were just too expensive for me to afford along with the entry fee & fuel to drive that distance. :( TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 18:15:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E38403F3 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB9540067 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:25:53 -0600 (MDT) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 48222438-1739096 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:25:08 +1200 From: "ashleys" To: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:25:01 +1200 Subject: [TR] Leaking overdrives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi! Sometime back there was cure for fixing leaking "A" tpye. Has someone made a STEEL ADAPTOR plate if so what is the address Many thanks Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 19:54:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707C3403EE for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FAB40359 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:36:57 -0600 (MDT) a=ZDP+p+2EQUtzekylP04bRw==:17 a=jZ0QMvjkNTsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=HxQTVSZ2ugkA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=S6XjkRSc73XkFWt-tPwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZZTBisV6_6AA:10 a=U1EtIsw2fuAA:10 a=ZDP+p+2EQUtzekylP04bRw==:117 Received: from [98.155.115.72] ([98.155.115.72:61528] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3B/E4-11231-D0E32425; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:36:14 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <003d01ceb94d$62d464b0$287d2e10$@net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:36:15 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac65TWJtjas/MDGdTfmw+plrp+wU6wAQYrMg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hopefully, Pattie and I will be there. The engine parts come back from the machinist tomorrow and I have the weekend to get it all together. Because it'll be a fresh engine I'll be trailering it. Really look forward to going three laps around Inferion raceway on Sunday. Johnnie > > Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 21:31:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E4B403F9 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:31:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E11C40324 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:28:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.122.179.90]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTN004LFWAESXB0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:27:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "CFM-TR" To: "'ashleys'" , "''Triumphs''" References: <73A730AAB7C4432B8C765875D8C3B967@AshleysPC> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:27:49 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQI4EUVkdrEk48XxbpFAZOnGUPbki5kDGqLQ Subject: Re: [TR] Leaking overdrives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Quantum Mechanics 315 Riggs St. Bldg. A Unit 3 Oxford, Conn. 06478 Phone 203-463-8299 Fax 203-828-6039 www.quantumechanics.com the adapter plate is on the TR3 page - about 3/4 down the page. Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, Florida -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ashleys Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:25 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Leaking overdrives Hi! Sometime back there was cure for fixing leaking "A" tpye. Has someone made a STEEL ADAPTOR plate if so what is the address Many thanks Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 23:49:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AEF40405 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30904009B for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0F7667014FED1 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.6]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D2B8EE000086 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:45:56 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 76.254.10.77 by webmail-d261.sysops.aol.com (205.188.16.112) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:45:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:45:56 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380087957; bh=kWWyp4jF1FNZCtqMSUiBaimaBjBpllJklvMmRHDDoq0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=If95VQmaPojqyVSzYhTaqlhHpz6f19nTIYA//GXPbb3M7EE9uAOjIgr7VPCPrYchk N8tc1yxtHbqnEdFW7kSpHGI0fepV0P1/njE7IOdtSaq3s/8ZwCvekK7SFCtS5MSd2g DdpR+jufL0+elHPsDqw4XDvSS6HkArIAPf4/9QDA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a5242789434a0 Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 343 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be visiting since I live just an hour away.. and focusing on the TR4s. Carl '63TR4 since '74 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-request To: triumphs Sent: Tue, Sep 24, 2013 11:45 am Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 343 Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to triumphs@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to triumphs-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at triumphs-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Triumphest/VTR (Kinderlehrer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:42:05 -0700 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "Triumph List \(Triumph List\)" Subject: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? Bob ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Triumphs mailing list Triumphs@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 343 **************************************** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 23:57:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525A340382 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:57:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D65400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:56:55 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=QFQwxWF518wA:10 a=7hJH8hwxSBhwlE1g21oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=td-d4JH0jYoA:10 a=KalxI1k61qIA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 14/66-00725-BFA72425; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:56:12 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "''Triumphs''" Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:56:13 -0700 Thread-index: AQI4EUVkdrEk48XxbpFAZOnGUPbki5kDGqLQgAAqcjA= Subject: Re: [TR] Leaking overdrives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > the adapter plate is on the TR3 page - about 3/4 down the page. It's aluminum though, unless it has changed recently. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 00:05:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C2640403 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D77400FF for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1593970001D42; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dlc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.77]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CAED5E000087; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 02:04:53 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380089094; bh=dasLa+yWvPdwMGJb41h3Be77blPGFWS2tkJjJHMeoug=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wkbufU1WHKlTD/W0Iv6MLReb2+CD2Uz83CDWgG1NakBopMaZICPc7/gwZz1scGzUA 3UzlOLnrLkAchyORdJlCgfU6w7WzcCRy0xo3LqWQeymJMwFzBfl3MzL6ZV4fkBQ49U aju33SFAmH9CnnCOjjM1LKod96dFlExsWFhKpRyM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc52427d055e4b Subject: [TR] Subject: Triumphest/VTR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We will be there, and our TR3 race car will be on display. TR Regards, Hardy In a message dated 9/24/2013 11:44:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, triumphs-request@autox.team.net writes: From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "Triumph List \(Triumph List\)" Subject: [TR] Triumphest/VTR Who is going to be at Triumphest/VTR in Marin next week? Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 06:58:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37940410 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 06:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F70403C5 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 06:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 12:57:36 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.253] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 12:57:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 12:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 64240 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2013 12:57:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380113856; bh=M/3KTjYZt9UQjVzYBe2brrE2Nfe7DHWA0uQtpR8ZCZU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NAMavgicslazu0Up6ByF/9gEygW2JQ+LbYMA3C3JWvoclUzCtVjvqpCj/9Z+Kbiw6t3s03ErVakoX8LOtJE1ECFkpuby123LxZ3Gpb/56YKL8tFwiBJ19dehBoIina5uIn2TMPj2B4A0128qYpAzIoQBbimXm32MZzcKeESp9E0= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6WcXxc9Ww6pWI96nmFTHVPXL529kU2pk73CSkm9NLewMJJPkGkZUEww3zsf6rH7qvHzMdK5rryXKacsFVnr6Mvszonm39mltBZ61v0TuCc1ew5V0DzQYvmf1hhXFGpoBOzr0kQLKq3OITn46VDo9cIINdpLZM8lelaso8d/WtoA=; 738yuO4ish7GG121Ce95s3F3HvoIOTZueSq7.aFRhxTxMtNM2T6O9jUMWQBi fp34fBs.LM.cbkFJpBt0UGHs5JFVM5exBzry8dRsjcHkIyM.2NY7ezsQ2uWC AvraYaRQQI9a8DwVx7B1YEOIiSAV_5.kBsHfaVrdQWOZ6hdgWMInoyBPwstk WbzLog1BdVD9yJ9u6FbVL6kTaxNRR1y5RID8r.XV_mBvwg.mmtmaMRCc4k5T VtvTF.3TalaCONB3KwWfPCIXUK6pfCZwnFntk_jSEj8zy.E40mUWhgd2WD.. oBgpIawSDM.ftFGoiSO31j_0TleXDxrrF2ZUfoF3odgi_cvSCD.IYQqykTBe DasRQcjIN1IuXyvtny9ubhMCP12GnzF_wyMhKN05v9yk30OuEZLEBBCm95yC hnr1P7bRwHGSIvNW5wjKXaydd0OIW5ggEGqFAUXcN6QnOP6jQuvtQjzG2o_r 484.FnJnwztPElvwJ9Rav36403dMI0Hek38jY_UBHooUAGWZBmBTDiqTzaW5 1wA_BEqq3JTsJM.0d71hWjn9pTgdJI7Ms_6b7pik8ORPrzEQLZEhpp8HKC21 yij63fLA9L123KnmuCAz10_UL9elI4ygvGj62uOhIu8CF7qEBVwWU Received: from [107.195.24.15] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:57:36 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBXZWxsIHNob290Li4uCsKgIMKgIMKgSSB3YXMgY29uZHVjdGluZyBteSBkYWlseSBoaXN0b3JpY2FsIHJlZW5hY3RtZW50IG9mIEtlbiBSaWNoYXJkc29uJ3MgSmFiYmVrZSBydW4gb24gbXkgd2F5IHRvIHdvcmsgb24gVHVlc2RheSB3aGVuIGFsbCBoZWxsIGJyb2tlIGxvb3NlIHVuZGVyIHRoZSBob29kLiBBcyBJIHdhcyByZWFjaGluZyBmb3IgdGhlIGtleSBJIGNvdWxkIHNlZSBvaWwgcHJlc3N1cmUgZmFsbGluZy4gSSBoYWQgdGhlIGVuZ2luZSBvZmYgaW4gc2Vjb25kcy4gTm8gb2lsIGxlYWsBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well shoot... I was conducting my daily historical reenactment of Ken Richardson's Jabbeke run on my way to work on Tuesday when all hell broke loose under the hood. As I was reaching for the key I could see oil pressure falling. I had the engine off in seconds. No oil leaking, actually no new oil leaking out of the block. The car went home on a flat bed tow truck. Got home from work last night, pulled the pan and found this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932678513/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932557605/in/photostream/ Crank break just aft of #4 shear web at the rear main bearing. I didn't find any metal in the pan and it looks like it didn't take anything else with it. I guess that I am lucky. I have never taken the engine over 5,000 rpms and rarely go above 4500. I wonder what brought this on. Maybe I should have had a harmonic balancer. I suppose that I am not the first guy to have this happen to him. Are there any specific things I should be checking? I was wondering if it might have damaged the #4 connecting rod or maybe the rear bearing. Time for a tear down. Dang! I just about have my TR6 on the road and just bought a Renown. -Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 07:44:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0475B40407 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B6B403D8 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 01485700043B9 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 90368E000081 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380116356; bh=k6oVxId5FwTHxNyCFQP7IB603kibkMKryVHhMyfh2pg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sQjwLN9SuN4ad/ZUqEBjZhLEIMiEhtEmNEJmlV2n+bywQu0Bs3gGBgC2tGFoczOfj 3yBSqbSyeJb2QZ05/32aGeovCsgJw7pkXERzzCXp90fuMN+LRVHk8TO1snOY81hsBw ngobyIsaASDSeHq7hHWnPUh15Oa/SlVwdZA/QUw0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85242e7845869 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ouch. A friend told me she broke a crank on a TR4 and still drove it home. I don't know what caused it but I've heard that even the factory cars had problems over 5,000. The TR6 is happier at 5,000. Dave In a message dated 9/25/2013 7:57:50 AM Central Daylight Time, wsb1960tr3a@att.net writes: > Well shoot... > I was conducting my daily historical reenactment of > Ken Richardson's Jabbeke run on my way to work on Tuesday when all hell > broke > loose under the hood. As I was reaching for the key I could see oil > pressure > falling. I had the engine off in seconds. No oil leaking, actually no new > oil > leaking out of the block. The car went home on a flat bed tow truck. > Got > home from work last night, pulled the pan and found this: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932678513/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932557605/in/photostream/ > > > Crank break just aft of #4 shear web at the rear main bearing. > I didn't > find any metal in the pan and it looks like it didn't take anything else > with > it. I guess that I am lucky. > I have never taken the engine over 5,000 > rpms and rarely go above 4500. I wonder what brought this on. Maybe I > should > have had a harmonic balancer. > I suppose that I am not the first guy to > have this happen to him. Are there any specific things I should be > checking? I > was wondering if it might have damaged the #4 connecting rod or maybe the > rear > bearing. > Time for a tear down. Dang! I just about have my TR6 on the road > and just bought a Renown. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 08:02:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E784040D for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB6B40046 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id eo20so4877063lab.20 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:00:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4Hs/pilJRrpXTttPOC3s+ZD1IJvl5KnLhdjm/EJoLE8=; b=aHvqa/q96rm2GYq8JWkYUimWF78oqBcG1QThAXGAPg7mX82sAsWUv3aXvXz5fatXwJ 2Ovqp9dIsgWTroJfwzz9UfzxdkRvQKBBHXteyoqTSUL3jhLwAz1tYOX645AIjNMA8KFJ Y4SqI/d591uE9s57EmBzB7j1KeQ6vcfVkGSvNE9CWqW3m26x6bzj9a/fgQTOQyCGgrCb FkWe/vuUS8BbKxpOvWPjjOQQqVM6psT2Y7LhPJ6iXwqHWB83zNPJduzu80/Di5kTTEJc GUF0vouCBxXW7eDhe/DInp2pO5mNK0N80/dOhoJrwuyIV+/fi7ercfHDP4iWrM4/9cty aWQQ== bc20mr1632623lab.37.1380117653356; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.237 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:00:33 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] I need a hotel room -- - Anyone with a spare room at Oct 5th show in Waynesboro, VA? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Shenandoah Valley British Car Club puts on a really nice show --- it's a beautiful time to be up in the mountains as well. So far I think we have 2 ea. 250's and a TR4 heading up. I took too long to reserve a room at the holiday in in Staunton, VA -- If anyone decides to cancel their room -- please let me know and I'll take it. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 08:39:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18E54041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:39:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5182240381 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n10so1140079oag.14 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tZeqF38LzL6FrouqXthSvKy2E312mDbpolOE8kId2F4=; b=qshstU8UZLUVH4dz3EIb4B5vGNlsyCAzeWcWCBBlIiSmv0AVIP+DrXK3gSIGlyF7Ha V5RSS/qvp7j8mbmPtOTyvaCivm7nKsEUEMzDG9f6dEY5VjgaXQu4qVSxdnS5K7zuBWQB U55EF5agnRASaFs90Fz76QXzPmhF72Ml1EEMxWlIh4TunSMAV2CWeh2MibBBHEbda2Ia 144dPQSFeJgB0BqntF6Q9xbNsVq0QrM2uL3+hVWdS+F0ftpjBkXfsdNa+DHSm5gv7Yoe usXzsMsLO3cuG3K0DowIFyXxeHrtCzpkGAFcIdLqcxEo55rhqbj/vH+LiNFsgT9wNlwa oSUQ== y4mr386315obw.101.1380119893399; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b5sm31765418obj.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:10 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/25/13 6:39 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > > I don't know what caused it but I've heard that even the factory cars had > problems over 5,000. > > The TR3/4 crank has a major harmonic around 5200 RPM that tends to break the crank at the base of the flywheel mounting flange. There is a second major harmonic a little above 6200 RPM that tends to break the stock crank in the middle. This is why the TR engine is factory redlined at 5000 RPM. The harmonics can shift a little along the RPM spectrum if the crank, rods, pistons & flywheel are not balanced. The aftermarket harmonic balancer sold the the TR engines tames the 5200 RPM harmonic. It requires going to a narrow fan belt & an electric fan. My engine is balanced, has a nitrided stock crank and a harmonic balancer. It sees 6000 RPM under full acceleration. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 08:39:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3865D40536 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:39:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C03B40445 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 14:38:43 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.135] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 14:38:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 14:38:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 85564 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2013 14:38:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380119922; bh=5sb7+hnU6z6/AGJdsVcWcjkldKbyDJ3f5uuT1P4sjGg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kigWHGBzlRSJWmJ607rCTpkVY14XPVB/fS1+gx2mnMvLhylCAbYIQQoDsAr/fYrEjTDeWjrJ0ohd2sr5eo71524CQE+6ybXvT7D8DhCLXMsgPipR1gQK5xMrRKM9BurojCJzCjiJWAjkfx4JbleBuac+Q+qWUph31oi0Z1wK5cg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R1K6CVFFJv9vOo9pJgHPFM/4TNYyoEhHxcSv5qDtWUIeQkAIixow9P3IB/NlJo98ssFo18ADrvG4bV0yGbgNzYeumhKcqUQJAoTM0Eu7fKarV1ciJw/Z7lFWzdCyG27dFKOWEB+Khw+stuPVdZhDmHiSLTPVyDY2J6UekJDhrgM=; NTtBtw0FA25QbvRFaiq6vMPjL0pO11LKJ5yQUX7cD.5sT_Rn3DM7fFmRFaev cwJOW9RVCcq.EF.NQZ8wLzsLVuNhWOyVFnncT2Ul7Z4rYyNP7S8GNolqp7OK jWNVsX2JUKsfxKwu_HCoyAjxltLFAyFKgSRo91RwNovUHRXHNCHgj5KD07IZ QOZkKZxBe_gZosZi9_V4jpdRXbO2.fFhtOhnC9b3SObQk_08nI0R.zlDtJXj fldzYXy8HSiIW8dWHPgi_sCa.7P7EdgWNyGVE0Eo0itdcqdE7vp7UVjtc35q ro2p2__6n83rbZCzzao5JZ6S43obuE5RjAwz3jnk8zbyP_66c.aCirf24hYl r7IwS5ItidtoCm3YzfjltJxEWLEL13ezPvfT4JUBsCTHJfVdwnGdBT0iKIUa EH3YPek3a0gQRT7URwKuPC4RUdtsibNu0hoJ400y4iyS6cWLepdzL8kXWE23 wfv2B8rUSiaVp5oeJnhS8biTghb0DvuFTalezQir0ry1h1mU.._eCXWBvozy DCvjymZGZM.si2QvwSRvFKHmoiy5g.Vjl79FvkfsqmiH9cngk.bVb0K9iPhd 1EjZLuiqi9433g30Paptq4KaISbfKio12.5a.m3mzrs8QzM2jZWtRACPJr5w jw9TtuWandBz_3_1yHRSzjHu6mZsvadqdlYU9FEzldnXL1ZxeyWY.4xVdg0f 4zQGkIn2enuWtE1Zc4Kw- Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:42 PDT wqDCoMKgwqAgSSB3YXMgb25seSB0YWNoaW5nIGFib3V0IDMsODAwIGF0IHRoZSB0aW1lLiBSdWRlIHN1cnByaXNlLgoKwqDCoMKgwqAgLUJpbGwKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEJyYWQgS2FobGVyIDxia2FobGVyMUBnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBXaWxsaWFtIEJyZXdlciA8d3NiMTk2MHRyM2FAYXR0Lm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgU2VwdGVtYmVyIDI1LCAyMDEzIDY6MDEgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtUUl0gVFIzIENyYW5rCiAKCgpXb3chIMKgSSd2ZSABMAEBAQE- References: <1380113856.56780.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Brad Kahler Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was only taching about 3,800 at the time. Rude surprise. -Bill ________________________________ From: Brad Kahler To: William Brewer Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Wow! I've had a few broken cranks in the wife's spitfire race car but they always broke on the main diameter of the crank, never on one of the throws. What was the tach reading when it happened? Brad On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:57 AM, William Brewer wrote: Well shoot... > I was conducting my daily historical reenactment of >Ken Richardson's Jabbeke run on my way to work on Tuesday when all hell broke >loose under the hood. As I was reaching for the key I could see oil pressure >falling. I had the engine off in seconds. No oil leaking, actually no new oil >leaking out of the block. The car went home on a flat bed tow truck. > Got >home from work last night, pulled the pan and found this: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932678513/ >http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/9932557605/in/photostream/ > > > Crank break just aft of #4 shear web at the rear main bearing. > I didn't >find any metal in the pan and it looks like it didn't take anything else with >it. I guess that I am lucky. > I have never taken the engine over 5,000 >rpms and rarely go above 4500. I wonder what brought this on. Maybe I should >have had a harmonic balancer. > I suppose that I am not the first guy to >have this happen to him. Are there any specific things I should be checking? I >was wondering if it might have damaged the #4 connecting rod or maybe the rear >bearing. > Time for a tear down. Dang! I just about have my TR6 on the road >and just bought a Renown. > > -Bill in Tehachapi > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 08:52:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA74041D for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:52:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA0F403D8 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:52:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id j1so1142319oag.37 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:51:22 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=41Nhd9jDPUFU+1ww8ZKlxpkytIAkWHWTRycuX6fLdgY=; b=vUteqIF3H5bDri4PKpihh2fqs7jrqLBHloH7Tq9vPdIJifBe810Ixkq/B0IOIAY22v 1hZfjw19jn9bMf1gRiashpZXDWwCAxSiBUAghYLC5NWBEpawgY3mlnFsQh21rzDshDSJ rK6GIyXDWZF8TGQKucgyXC8tMa6NeC/oqfhuv+0tPX/V2+dopMfM13Kb5xL2FFFnpcxW o9YF9uJlwSMk+6K2htHXAHe4+hOIGCpBlJxuwp1RA0WeY0EG4logEmej5S3QNW2z0Zw2 N9CuKuuZ9wwrZgpgGp/x8u4ssa/WnxrgxJrYWJIuI0fI6iULWoKLkKORDMmoyld/HwU/ 8NhQ== dt2mr16814054obc.30.1380120682844; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gc8sm31829729obb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:51:19 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1380113856.56780.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1380119922.24041.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/25/13 7:38 AM, William Brewer wrote: > I was only taching about 3,800 at the time. Rude surprise. The crank might have been already cracked. It doesn't have to break completely all at once. That's why when you have a crank out of the engine it never hurts to hit it with a hammer to see if it rings. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 08:54:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0BD4051F for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B7A403FA for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q59so6153601wes.20 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=80LaQ2BuW6y0fGDMdpJeL1szD0OBxsBLb0OYxhMaUlw=; b=iOkrPD2gUaxBEO7jPHN6kGxqSWUFbs+XmGMZOEi+/Z4S5iRxY5/MxXv8DGEyiqj5lI kFRlQDK/cGYFQLzrJWd1E5EkpGdbeB/mh8fN66WIPp6klqEtQce8AS5HeQx8EJ5kVlFu Ofrs79X/cBQDty+eqZIY6XsNdCODBe5DhQNtTtla/x9NNjNDEsjkDzVIwr3IHTde63S1 94L5hP8I6upI7vZVg/NdQIBoTJU8wF3nfqAr2WLrNhk7BVsY7lF9+ZyGRTT+UlvB390r oeIjQQtIi2YclrK2IdO/fKxxSGzvDXiIBZ46tbw1WJPFMsm12BedcgjFefKIomixUYsM jzOA== kq8mr2558113wjb.45.1380120818525; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.132 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <5242F552.1050205@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:53:38 -0500 From: Don Hiscock To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ...and a guy *seriously* rallying a well-known TR4 in the UK with a *very* tuned engine uses an 8100 rpm redline, IIRC. These aren't normal production engines anymore, though! On 9/25/13, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 9/25/13 6:39 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: >> >> I don't know what caused it but I've heard that even the factory cars had >> problems over 5,000. >> >> > The TR3/4 crank has a major harmonic around 5200 RPM that tends to break > the crank at the base of the flywheel mounting flange. There is a > second major harmonic a little above 6200 RPM that tends to break the > stock crank in the middle. This is why the TR engine is factory > redlined at 5000 RPM. The harmonics can shift a little along the RPM > spectrum if the crank, rods, pistons & flywheel are not balanced. > > The aftermarket harmonic balancer sold the the TR engines tames the 5200 > RPM harmonic. It requires going to a narrow fan belt & an electric fan. > > My engine is balanced, has a nitrided stock crank and a harmonic > balancer. It sees 6000 RPM under full acceleration. > > TeriAnn > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 09:16:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4173C40410 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:16:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE44240401 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h16so1162831oag.24 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:10:41 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k7iQrmnOJsFhrpdikPJcGcos/5U9TCdS5XFzhx3U0Kk=; b=q78ik7iL3kFAd04bRUPZMryKt8cF/O8wxAtR0/P+iUVcJItTeXBhB1rj8SRV41BFre D+yFV8DhbddrqpHHNuNTN2W5TUK2/CaLPijMX2h7uEmo/UvXQ57Iwn1z1HGRJ7bc6nja IxWp64IZ8TxHc1HtMiRfDbBFet6Sg/ube4/f+DIwew6OiUgp7OSP4rQFQm8mQN8VNmb7 8yXJhr4+X+fUOuLfq+qnl/01qXdtd48m3xTm4SVkc0pnYKwjOisXSP2me+irqYnt62Su y3PPh3IhpwzMqaB/fsCLhco3nhYxWBcfIO+Sb0O31yOCVRhhPbw2kBI66vohzh4HxgEQ tqvw== sp6mr512988oeb.102.1380121840183; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y1sm40022362oek.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:10:36 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Don Hiscock References: <5242F552.1050205@gmail.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Crank Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/25/13 7:53 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > ...and a guy *seriously* rallying a well-known TR4 in the UK with a > *very* tuned engine uses an 8100 rpm redline, IIRC. > > These aren't normal production engines anymore, though! And almost certainly with a very expensive crank and rods. 8100 RPM in the TR 4 cyl engine is really pushing it with cubic money. I could only afford about 6000 RPM. Costs start getting really expensive to get past that second harmonic. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 18:48:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7A940514 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E53740441 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:48:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170170pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MTP00MRBJJM5BS4@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.91.144 ([96.255.91.144]) by vznit170170 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:47:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:47:46 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Funny story about Brad Penn Oil TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 18:50:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EBC4051C for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:50:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A5E40443 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170170pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MTP0010NJNE0J60@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:50:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.91.144 ([96.255.91.144]) by vznit170170 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:50:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:50:02 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Funny story about Brad Penn Oil TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Stupid rich text: Its been an expensive summer with my 1 owner 1972 TR6. Had issues with clutch master cylinder, replaced, still having problems. It had to be mechanical. Took to a British car shop. By the time they were done with me, a new clutch and a totally rebuilt gear box was in the equation. There were enough metal shavings on that magnetic drain plug from TRF to make a small Christmas tree. $4000 later, we are on the road again. The thing I want to share with the list, because it is funny, and I need to laugh because I had to put that bill on the 12 month payment plan, is something about Brad Penn Motor Oil. For years, I was a Castrol person, adding ZDDP, you know that story. Always thought all the fluids draining out of the bottom of the car were the gearbox, seals, etc. Well, all that was replaced with my $4000 upgrade. So, just for the record, if you convert to Brad Penn oil, which is green, it will be clear to you (funny) after the conversion and replacement of the entire gearbox and seals, that oil is still leaking from your British car because it is GREEN. I can see at the bottom of the engine a GREEN line where oil is slowly making its way to the floor. Don't get me wrong, I never need to add oil during the driving season, so I am not too worried, but I thought we could all get a laugh. It is getting dark way to early, enjoy the driving while you can. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:12:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0184051F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:12:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3151940453 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:12:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 16:11:10 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.131] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 16:11:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 16:11:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 73031 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2013 16:11:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380211869; bh=hwrVuEouxDCK09Na77R0gQ6qmZMvQj0ggsa+GrLLoH8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R2XP4P8mReGI5AydJ8LLckW+VjAX5Wi3uEmrC3D4HoJ+Ne2C+JAMPJU39tLyOO680uHO8lPFKm8UTYnJMELogcp6I+1C8YhD85I0zLc5xEydniPJDWKH2ngJuFyR2gR1yP1FUo/17I6yzVz1UBpoUCefjUHOf5bhCBp2uS0gowE= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q5GGWlQ3QAJhnjm3AI3Dd37EWZypNtEpbMjwguSStC9GZEu8NsTZvkgv2gH66JL6+6u8diD/6AEnEtbpzpE0P0NlxLT8MuxX3PqGeQr5kRP5wl7/jyJTHfdBAAAppJPxjT40Qe2vqn0wrSgfr3U6EfJr8s06Eu0vrPFscowawSk=; IftM.lt5GuPZ0h8MakbJ1PFLovzg2q3KixSby8FRt65RYt2pmfaO3iuLaPyi Ro_w2gaWuiDBEHWO0i56Uy5LsE3ToEfdlXjLDO1Xy_KxU550WrIXeqJ37BI5 pM2rffDkpJ9S8Ketirg79T17DWNuKTjaBdTpFco7iMCnAwz66IIKgzpADLDE aohylUzhXq02I8VqRRkqcnutGllM.6_y7JzCDgDyOcjMF2U0_mDtlnc6pVef jOCVSRDPowv8sC_BMVVpQP5QJBZY5UCv7yHslCcvnumxx5TbvmuyV2N3cOYh InJMzRshlB7TwW2CKT4G7vMZgk2_.NkWXjGYkrB9uNnkfIieA1EdO0O9Xm6U tEc9EvJLwt_BbjjyYRj8LcEd1RKWgdD8C1po.SJmzIf4uG3qN4Nd8EiQSj8T G02vG4IAySjAeMV6Y4MlcG5jg6s4ZL_aDQ54x3zt8WNtxciPfzffJ3tn9nkl kOGX84_W.E6_fLDapuNJYzTUnWjdsCb22b1gMBEn3naz8Jf5jiTkQ1zn0LgF _KfWQECi4uA3pFddZW3keSilzzKvVaXLGojsLSbjECWKUANb3g.qecjyXltw hInzKqZfEt0Wo3N_0hDvEEJ8j5i5uDZ_j97vvCzn_Z2u1xour6fSWypJYXae j.TL0gSOfm2y5LUxZtBVp2mCugYg- Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:11:09 PDT wqDCoMKgwqAgQWZ0ZXIgc25hcHBpbmcgbXkgVFIzQSBjcmFuayBJIGFtIGNvbnNpZGVyaW5nIGEgaGFybW9uaWMgYmFsYW5jZXIgb24gbXkgdXBjb21pbmcgcmVidWlsZC4gSSBzZWFyY2hlZCBvbiBnb29nbGUsIGJ1dCByZWFsbHkgZGlkbid0IHR1cm4gdXAgYW55dGhpbmcuIEkgZm91bmQgb25lIHBsYWNlIHdpdGggYSBoYXJtb25pYyBiYWxhbmNlciB3aXRoIHRoZSB0aW1pbmcgbWFya3MgaW5kZXhlZCwgYnV0IG5vIHByaWNlLiBBbnlvbmUgaGF2ZSBhIGdvb2Qgc291cmNlIGZvciBhIGhhcm1vbmljIGJhbGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After snapping my TR3A crank I am considering a harmonic balancer on my upcoming rebuild. I searched on google, but really didn't turn up anything. I found one place with a harmonic balancer with the timing marks indexed, but no price. Anyone have a good source for a harmonic balancer or any advice? maybe I just don't need one if I keep my revs down. http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/charts/dam-triumph.htm -Bill in Tehachapi 1960 TR3A 1974 TR6 Mallard 1952 Triumph Renown ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:26:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9C040536 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CCB7040453 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29677 invoked by uid 0); 26 Sep 2013 16:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2013 16:25:25 -0000 {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Received: from just64.justhost.com ([UNAVAILABLE]. [66.147.243.74]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.89); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:25:25 GMT Received: from [50.83.131.11] (port=55762 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPEIG-0005SL-NM; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:19:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:19:53 -0500 To: William Brewer ,Triumphs From: Tony Drews > References: <1380211869.15394.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 50.83.131.11 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought mine from Ken Gillanders at British Frame and Engine http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ It has no timing marks, they must be added. Also, it is a good idea to paint it or it will rust (oops). Tony Drews At 11:11 AM 9/26/2013, William Brewer wrote: > After snapping my TR3A crank I am considering a harmonic balancer on my >upcoming rebuild. I searched on google, but really didn't turn up anything. I >found one place with a harmonic balancer with the timing marks indexed, but no >price. Anyone have a good source for a harmonic balancer or any advice? maybe >I just don't need one if I keep my revs down. > > > >http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/charts/dam-triumph.htm > > > -Bill >in Tehachapi > 1960 TR3A > 1974 TR6 Mallard > 1952 Triumph Renown > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:27:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0679E4051F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:27:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F25F4003B for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id g12so957961oah.1 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:26:51 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bYOVZaPHghcJoO5rOdDNzPYCH99r2yp7pkTn+oaBRGk=; b=C6HaWPB3miZDqE6faP7L4jzcMR0ceErb+WjDtew8+uhH7nSv0OvCMuk9JwUauhY9vg tl3dhjrrNBTSztlhnjfRWJnlypGLpWFAH2RPyrOgKhFdlJvrFiUWEy/1mw3g/UIVsBI8 tvrW7mjNCIseUElKQ3xAaV36sKAAT1QOZIM/OLPeHMuZUNT0ZZ4jTytJICw/YRYPS59t ngSr3DGIApZfJkThQviY/E7jvQnSGQ5iigmjB69U+CXLGmotltPx0cW9E4Mfn3fDycoi pWB4N62jzzhQCC2dTSzICWENbw3R5X+xdxp6ZJ+bqWqe4j2caFUWqpp3C5vkpmMXLflu 5O6g== Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (24-121-172-242.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.172.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm6090310oeo.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:26:48 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1380211869.15394.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/26/13 9:11 AM, William Brewer wrote: > After snapping my TR3A crank I am considering a harmonic balancer on my > upcoming rebuild. I searched on google, but really didn't turn up anything. I > found one place with a harmonic balancer with the timing marks indexed, but no > price. Anyone have a good source for a harmonic balancer or any advice? maybe > I just don't need one if I keep my revs down. > > British Frame and Engine and Racetorations immediately come to mind. Mine came from Ken at British Frame & engine. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:33:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796C40521 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:33:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111144006F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id uo5so1365975pbc.9 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=iCd6pWN+LJ6xVIwGQwh9HCg5CC8JxJUY0kqPKvIH4Pw=; b=eUhMF2bIFFfSyhXWdmwNCHgp2s6dqlLZH7fwhhraEVosHZDebmNj1b3H1wyEUwfkmj y6918PTqDAr6/L6M9beTjjxMWfQJka1PABhDq1/nPyrsS4x4pvMGY4bWkVGLHFadue5q Qr/jSxyomWfc+S8per/pN4wbjCOdbm86aJEbHtoZGzbbfE3u9w7B/iawIMnG/5syzIGp FX42OZY5VPU+3EQL5/u384JnFD2SRXqsMZNIJuNYs995P7XjoFJjBbLsXmyEmqdGzDeO /9fIWq5zhK4UuRfoYbFEO1dPPcUfoRrXEJes8WiPwQLIyxj4LYbwKIXvHHR7/4BFvaUu OjcA== qo10mr5646140pab.161.1380213125058; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:31:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <1380211869.15394.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:31:44 -0700 To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good Parts has one -- not sure if it fits a 3. I got mine from ATI directly -- but the timing marks were off so I had to paste on a timing strip. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, William Brewer wrote: > After snapping my TR3A crank I am considering a harmonic balancer on > my > upcoming rebuild. I searched on google, but really didn't turn up > anything. I > found one place with a harmonic balancer with the timing marks indexed, > but no > price. Anyone have a good source for a harmonic balancer or any advice? > maybe > I just don't need one if I keep my revs down. > > > > http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/charts/dam-triumph.htm > > > -Bill > in Tehachapi > 1960 TR3A > 1974 TR6 Mallard > 1952 Triumph Renown > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triosan@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:40:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991844053D for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224FE4009A for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:40:09 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0iS-L5N4yjUA:10 a=nzB1TLr7AAAA:8 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=JyXaKmghAAAA:20 a=nPVFBNKiAAAA:20 a=e6l6ns7hO5iaLjvXwF0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=o8hDQ0G7OvMA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55009] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 64/ED-11231-53364425; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:39:17 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:39:20 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac661RTLD14p7FcITeKVmxmyxi8EaQAAPoXA Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I bought mine from Ken Gillanders at British Frame and Engine > http://www.britishframeandengine.com/ Ken has (or at least had) two different kits available. But both require converting to a narrow belt. IIRC the kit I got from him came with a suitable water pump pulley, but not the generator/alternator pulley. Moss also sells a kit with a dampener, but for some strange reason they only list it as a narrow belt kit. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=52041 http://tinyurl.com/kurws3c Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:45:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E46240526 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:45:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2E440453 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:45:38 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0iS-L5N4yjUA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=c8mBvfPDMqNf0fS43soA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/5A-00725-08464425; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:44:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:44:51 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac661RTLD14p7FcITeKVmxmyxi8EaQAAPoXAAABEqaA= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > But both require converting to a narrow belt. Oops, forgot to mention, all of the dampeners that I've seen also require converting to an electric fan; including the ones from Ken & Moss. Worth noting perhaps, that the factory setup with that heavy iron/aluminum fan mounted on rubber bushings should provide some amount of dampening. It has been said that eliminating those bushings (which do fail and need to be replaced from time to time) increases the tendency to break crankshafts. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 10:54:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E034051C for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:54:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A315440453 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id mc17so1385567pbc.4 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6PwbSFou9K97gHtfWiJ22w5xbUwmgTDtNGO9MqVDkRo=; b=xORrGkmJaEhkjJyEtVsczc4/k+k/ozlvfymzp/mUuNJeH2Az94arSIb7+R0V74p/wU NnUy0062gM+uXk3W3wtMGRyTfwT3uejz1KcO4GJCDwmMfnhA5L6YQCwxHSk/W7LzLBk9 BlvMNi5EEDhubFRa4/o2zllaob3BsMprnBPGbZdxjFipSchjvMJDcXV6dqvI2LmyShQA LQMvcvqr5Yw+bDya9xjkZlAiDXGCoHm7Tg1GfIydZPK71g80mDQfAZ9P2B8CROv58QmL x20GHxZy6iv0iIZdDB7c0n7/TU1uztu1PZKvb0n4hcwJLD4NAqw9/ykDCqGrYfCTmcJy p+nA== kk7mr6726103pab.14.1380214366568; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.248.39 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:52:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <8C.5A.00725.08464425@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:52:26 -0700 To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I sure recommend converting if you are racing or doing high revs. With my stock [nitrited] crank, an ATI damper,a lightweight flywheel,forged rods and pistons and good balancing I am consistantly able to turn 7000 RPM in the TR6. Had heating issues after failing to install my radiator shield for one race series which led to the need for a tear down. The crank and all the journals looked great after 10 race weekends on that engine. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Randall wrote: > > But both require converting to a narrow belt. > > Oops, forgot to mention, all of the dampeners that I've seen also require > converting to an electric fan; including the ones from Ken > & Moss. > > Worth noting perhaps, that the factory setup with that heavy iron/aluminum > fan mounted on rubber bushings should provide some amount > of dampening. It has been said that eliminating those bushings (which do > fail and need to be replaced from time to time) increases > the tendency to break crankshafts. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triosan@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 17:25:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A631E4052F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E60240513 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=0iS-L5N4yjUA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=I1-5Dyct1hSWJno9PaQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SVxBGRPB4QYA:10 a=_vqkCmLcgLAA:10 a=h0whZB1wpikA:10 a=6A/OvQor+YwyjOO4FWhaEA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.161] ([10.127.132.161:51345] helo=cdptpa-web10-z02) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 8B/26-00725-A22C4425; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:24:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:24:26 +0000 From: Randall Cc: Triumphs Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > I sure recommend converting if you are racing or doing high revs. I agree entirely; but I don't think Bill is planning on either. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 27 14:30:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8540687 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF26B40653 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WKYm1m0021wfjNsAELLnw7; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:20:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.4] ([98.255.164.156]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WLLl1m00R3NmwNy8jLLmFp; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:20:46 +0000 References: <1380308120.70755.YahooMailNeo@web161305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: William Pugh Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:20:48 -0700 To: Sally or Dick Taylor s=q20121106; t=1380313247; bh=YIcP6WDMmTUhx8uz+N76CXj0KoTBoWzPwTvedmEiJSo=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=n7CL7PBB3HZ29YApqNoTEQkNmIubUwebnbfqtLQdaawlgKg43AUmRui+bjqZPFedM KdjpplVx8gaBmx+BojeteJkQGJURfdlbD4u4PrIJJDQ+ewHGQ385bEfvoXta984Wnk 9BkBlIeS4B4zGhAxvXm9s3/FKFpiGlT7cqBzjgcSjpSs5GDJkxu9W4h55DRAveTUZ+ 23txPma7yO94bQ99ONqMO0MJp2SUBXSGUy3PUGpeTsWwSgjEvmKBH4VZScPLSfw6YB Pdrf3pKsvRmTsQkMtP9I87X1k9GQR5HCuqC5ER5uCkYXmN1ckLdl0zy1n9J7hJyOwW XbFdZgdMCYgCQ== Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] SOFT TOP STOWING Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It was up last weekend, when we went through a monsoon! And has been up for all our Concours events, still looks great, and only leaked a small drip inside the windshield. :) Bill Pugh Wallace, CA > On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote: > > Yeah, Bill, but how do you know what your top looks like now? I've never seen your car with the top up! > > Dick ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 27 22:33:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8765640EB9 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB4540C01 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.183.214.111]) by p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id WUSk1m0022QmmGk01USlBs; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 21:26:46 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:21:46 -0500 Subject: [TR] guess the part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net these showed up. theybve been powdercoated, but I canbt figure out what they are for. anyone?// www.ranteer.com/misc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 29 22:35:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DDB403A8 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:35:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob17.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob17.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.57]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE3240397 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.209]) by atl4mhob17.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8U4XiPL011892 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:33:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 28749 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2013 04:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jeffnPC) (jeffn@msystech.com@71.188.116.178) by 0 with ESMTPA; 30 Sep 2013 04:33:43 -0000 From: To: References: <1579605.245555.1380156466838.JavaMail.root@vznit170170> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:33:45 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR6: Kidney pad rear bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After many year of the "kidney pads" falling on the floor, I finally bought the rear bracket. Got the speakers installed successfully. But, I'm not sure why that rear bracket has one side longer than the other (with two holes). Does anyone know its purpose? Thanks, Jeff Nathanson '72 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 30 05:51:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC89F403D3 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 05:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE8A403B1 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 05:50:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL127-DS4 ([65.55.34.9]) by col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 04:49:45 -0700 From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 04:49:53 -0700 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 04:49:53 -0700 FILETIME=[28A42C00:01CEBDD3] Subject: [TR] Triumphest Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Leave in the early AM north on Hwy 1 all the way up the coast. It will take me about 2 hours longer than the "suggested routes," but that 's why I have a TR6! Weather should be great along Big Sur and the entire route. See you there. Safe driving! Peter Arakelian - '71 TR6, Daily Driver ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 30 06:35:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6DA403DB for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:35:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B54038B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (127.186.252.64.snet.net [64.252.186.127]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Mb8Z1-1V71CB0th5-00JsgL; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:34:15 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: , References: <1579605.245555.1380156466838.JavaMail.root@vznit170170> <055C9260680848E3A59B860997A8F1DC@jeffnPC> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:34:12 -0400 xg1GkaWUncHWqF36/GzLgIQfokFC3jobZsUR9wVcyqVB+oPdG9 kF8Iy5K5MgrMGIn+voaU5bVXnPvvIMWktdM6D7RQ3oh4pveSLH xR+33jmTF1EOBgrueHy/hSdoVxf3AeVaAzei3isMVMum9MF6nu OKSmGVHvNb60VjSdrseDdc3CY8NFyM0JgpSGqV4Tc3acgnUxFS IWR2/gXGQ0Zn50AE0BpqiKBBc/vL7b1GL2mmtGv40sOY4z6pG8 SWMyAzaxqSLfY/yuL0/lfdJbj2Od1vXKy0xu+Eqs5Wp74R5Pd9 //QLZfHtfkXne5hyBzoxq/mPNokOUXrxvHrsjT9Ad Subject: Re: [TR] TR6: Kidney pad rear bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff....... there's actually three brackets for the KPs: front @ dash support, middle-ish between the KPs and rear on tranny tunnel by firewall. Judging by your description I think you're talking about the middle one shown by the blue arrow in the picture at the link below. The rear brackets are exactly the same. To answer your question about the uneven length.... no idea :-) I have it installed per the picture and it holds everything in place. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ForumImages/KPBrackets.jpg Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: jeffn@msystech.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 12:33 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6: Kidney pad rear bracket After many year of the "kidney pads" falling on the floor, I finally bought the rear bracket. Got the speakers installed successfully. But, I'm not sure why that rear bracket has one side longer than the other (with two holes). Does anyone know its purpose? Thanks, Jeff Nathanson '72 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 30 11:39:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781A3403E0 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com (mail-qe0-f50.google.com [209.85.128.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AB94003F for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a11so4000958qen.23 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=KJcZ41w/urShmF27gliRMpb4HhHe6MxbaVyeIf5ChW8=; b=Z7xF3EGFdKlLlN82c7fDusPjWc4frwZ/ZaksAq1bu/f6M0VYLCZD+if5eXjRDFeldW cL2Y4V8cnmdjQqtUwf9R+L44gwB8BfqSQgijQfU8mPZAVuDOcgIwGfwIlM6A24UitgZH eFdQD6GQAP4pMftum8F4m/GBwLIt411oW9szXjl0KKSuBSQHnvd64uUf8lRKmqzY/u/N KOkllGsy3cBxESPjx6ch5YpvOBjAQYHZFaFucHItSLVNB64jnOQyd3Ih/ne68YRDwVMI Lrm+ARhjxchzKiCIy2XhRYXvd6JpqG0r1L3Q4rhXfbN+GqhhOHuoIx1C2dcxa/AXKncb //Bw== i4mr15562637qaz.38.1380562686750; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.116] ([68.202.149.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f5sm2870934qev.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:38:04 -0400 References: <13499959.1380562329655.JavaMail.www@app222> To: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: [TR] TR3A Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What is the current list wisdom for the best choice of tires for a'60 TR3A that has wire wheels? I live in Ormond Beach Florida and usually drive the car to go shopping, to meetings, car shows, and occasionally to the university where I teach which involves 6 miles on I-95, as my students often ask very nicely about seeing the car. :-) And by any WILD chance, does anyone know of a good shop in the Daytona Beach area that can handle wire wheels? Thanks John John A. Wise, Ph.D., CPE The Wise Group, LLC Ormond Beach, FL JohnWise@alumni.Pitt.edu http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Johns_Resume.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 30 14:03:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9064040F for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F98F4038B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:03:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170126pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MTY0033ZFNWKZ60@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:02:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.108 ([131.247.90.108]) by vznit170126 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:02:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:02:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: wisejohna@gmail.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had good success wtih the Nexen 165R80-15 tire. Not particularly pricey and actually available through Walmart, TiresPlus and other dealers. Don't think they would be particularly good with wire wheels though. Of course you could go with the 185 or 195 and a lower aspect ratio which would benefit cornering, etc. No knowledge of locations on that side of FL. If you come up dry - let me know and I'll ask the two good shops here in Tampa if they can recommend someone. Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida On 09/30/13, John Wise wrote: What is the current list wisdom for the best choice of tires for a'60 TR3A that has wire wheels? I live in Ormond Beach Florida and usually drive the car to go shopping, to meetings, car shows, and occasionally to the university where I teach which involves 6 miles on I-95, as my students often ask very nicely about seeing the car. :-) And by any WILD chance, does anyone know of a good shop in the Daytona Beach area that can handle wire wheels? Thanks John John A. 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I bought them off of Ebay for approx $100 each at the time. Now the are about $116 each for four or $139 each from another guy. Made in Holland. http://www.ebay.com/itm/165HR15-VREDESTEIN-SPRINT-CLASSIC-H-Blackwall-Radial- Tires-/261172991568?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Tires&hash=item3ccf1f9650&vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coker-Vredestein-165HR15-set-of-4-tires-/230900631498 ?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Tires&hash=item35c2c007ca&vxp=mtr Bill from Tehachapi, but currently in Bermuda Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:38:04 -0400 From: John Wise To: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: [TR] TR3A Tires Message-ID: charset="us-ascii" What is the current list wisdom for the best choice of tires for a'60 TR3A that has wire wheels? I live in Ormond Beach Florida and usually drive the car to go shopping, to meetings, car shows, and occasionally to the university where I teach which involves 6 miles on I-95, as my students often ask very nicely about seeing the car. :-) And by any WILD chance, does anyone know of a good shop in the Daytona Beach area that can handle wire wheels? Thanks John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive