From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 03:22:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7612D0314 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:22:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B8ADC2C0CCA for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 09:21:46 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.90] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 09:21:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 09:21:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 267995.2044.bm@omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86115 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2012 09:21:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1343812905; bh=D+Ghj7zVsbzAmc5cjm+NKaF6Cf6XJldlFURaO4ZhQ34=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6kODIKL+u0+oSOLEZYHWnwJgaA6TWo3q4T9OaSkir4Wl4x5NyUi672KcsCtQhRYRP1OxF7qet3E4HAfzDYISEas+jBsnSEoh92zqX8y1fNNb76q0wWT+O6OGf2CwLtFlIGkrqqMkSMbc9YNTRNvlZQRfXVST1UPK/QT7sOCyHoI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EKHbTUMf40a/bMJVMWSf/IUHfUNlhbp+OB0yhFaGOJvj8eNtyHixjd7S1bSfZcIktQHJvWgywO8iIp5RljeYVJusjDyiV9tSyhthQZAOu7TTsZ0IDuVTGCFcQlO3Oa/7O9y5KjN/2Np3qhwP6IRaJ4+TKLrEyUo3CMvbx0u1+6A=; X-YMail-OSG: ez00oCMVM1lS67EgsCCSHb8ZagMr.V3JHytERerxnV3Ldbp k_o1BBQ69030.b9igY8JJ65CFV8T3jihj0Nva.lzMkc86BC52TkgE59xLtJw UZgf8yiiygM42yTZBdKAKfoDU3UWj.JuFeI9tTUwO8CfXuNd2SF7D2SQOzpv 9vd9r_Lp616MnaC30_Atqq8QC8AcecnUMNGCMWN6lJTPBqx2Xk1I3wbsPAjV DlWR.fu2CxBJyS5OdxX.kAKLBk3N4LdmeSb2K0El3HH839YZBaiLi5FEXt8L PL9a3ujvY.hQ9eTlur3h7g77x_hqRQo_v3goDvm03KYsfeZwv_XME0cqQHPH URTjyvXKfI.OMHNcVjVCk_mQZZfsnyRHOGOsXEwwrntQTrMS1lh58efxbTvu nQYfNOxFvln2gQXP1ateiGxqc8koCKvRtbvoS7rnwAOedob6XxLASWQF70A8 Sv7YRNXkztXVBljThlTEg3pyltEBjq3J9sNooEinQol2CKkFeqXTx4OZH.23 BM2gXmMwATzbt1Qz9HAzrjX5IJJmyavA1DLlCRQAo Received: from [67.195.15.6] by web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:21:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343812905.66831.YahooMailRC@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fw: Upbeat muzik X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Subject: Fw: Upbeat muzik Much better than rap, agree? Y/N RSVP jdabars@att.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janis Dabars Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D6F2D031F for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:38:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1E32D02C9 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 03:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q719bdef017332 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:37:39 -0400 Received: from core-dsa005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.252.81]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 42C26E000081 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:37:39 -0400 (EDT) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:37:39 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [204.237.31.56] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1343813859; bh=/QTsZVCdBwgn91uTALXjkiJTwRvi6NO77OiUqk3cIKI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=auwJ/dNW3ct4Ws/QX12OW9hDv1wAmDKsC5MaBZ5aDwGTqKDhjoD25f8h3pxG1wdAg s7tbzlkEpmktTDvj8Ldg184+WBcZ50NOrHJ0UANa/n2ElJbZmm7s+yeSExlvgF8kRi QlX/IaLhSSlt9ZkTf4np1f8wZBosIjSYAKyz3owU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:337086240:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b5018f8e33c2a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] SU H6 float question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all; My TR3A has had a running problem for a long time that I have not had time to address. Finally, I am getting around to spending a few minutes here and there on it. After I drive it for 10/15 minutes, there is a very sudden loss of engine power and hesitation in the engine. I can usually maintain momentum for a couple of minutes and then the engine dies. Five minutes later, it starts fine. I've replaced everything ignition related, as well as fuel filter. I drove the car a couple of weeks ago. As soon as the engine lost power, I pulled over and removed the top of the float bowls. The float in the front carb was floating. The float in the rear carb was not, and there was no fuel in the bowl. There do not appear to be any external leaks in the carbs. Am I safe to assume this is a float valve problem? Tim ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 07:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5B32D031E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:54:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AFB2D02B8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:21:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q71CNhrH022716 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:23:43 -0400 Received: from core-moa003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8BC49E000089 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <25519.2c5f094e.3d4a79cf@cs.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:23:43 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1343823823; bh=Egz9DtjxAnQ5KtXPJwbilp6py5P6tzpldA8IBwtks40=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l+uZnZ5R/tb/y0LM9rbxwDAIHyRvi81Mo0Y6nOulkVbbfJDtOebcQRRNj0mR/6Anv 3cpKDYTxyvndI9I/8KLuHen9V1zd19xZPb7j3cT9Yh0jaq/aAJAvgBdEnCZ7NF35bC tFqWbwsOJSuVw3BiRppBGsbwSuO6P9yr4Fz55SSE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:449534784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50191fcf4c4e X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] SU H6 float question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Possible but it also might be due to your tank not venting. Pulling fuel from a tank with a blocked vent will create a vacuum interfering with proper pump operation. Next time it happens pop open the fuller cap and see what happens. Of course the cap should vent but maybe it doesn't. Another possibility is vapor lock. I once had a car that ran fine until the thermostat opened up. Then it would barely run. Dave In a message dated 8/1/2012 4:41:22 AM Central Daylight Time, KingsCreekTrees@aol.com writes: > My TR3A has had a running problem for a long time that I have not had > time > to address. Finally, I am getting around to spending a few minutes here > and > there on it. > > After I drive it for 10/15 minutes, there is a very sudden loss of engine > > power and hesitation in the engine. I can usually maintain momentum for a > couple of minutes and then the engine dies. Five minutes later, it starts > > fine. I've replaced everything ignition related, as well as fuel filter. > > I drove the car a couple of weeks ago. As soon as the engine lost power, I > > pulled over and removed the top of the float bowls. The float in the front > > carb was floating. The float in the rear carb was not, and there was no > fuel in the bowl. There do not appear to be any external leaks in the > carbs. > > Am I safe to assume this is a float valve problem? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 07:55:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A732D033A for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:55:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DD92D02B8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:23:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:25:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: "G.D. Huggins" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:25:21 -0500 Message-Id: <6844166D-3B31-4917-8A39-75615CB7BDD5@genfiniti.com> References: To: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] SU H6 float question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like the rear valve sticking closed could be an issue, but also the fuel line between the carbs could be blocked somehow. Simple tests on each should reveal the issue. Are you running the original-styled needle valves or the ball-styled "grose' valves? On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:37 AM, KingsCreekTrees@aol.com wrote: > Hi all; > > My TR3A has had a running problem for a long time that I have not had time > to address. Finally, I am getting around to spending a few minutes here and > there on it. > > After I drive it for 10/15 minutes, there is a very sudden loss of engine > power and hesitation in the engine. I can usually maintain momentum for a > couple of minutes and then the engine dies. Five minutes later, it starts > fine. I've replaced everything ignition related, as well as fuel filter. > > I drove the car a couple of weeks ago. As soon as the engine lost power, I > pulled over and removed the top of the float bowls. The float in the front > carb was floating. The float in the rear carb was not, and there was no > fuel in the bowl. There do not appear to be any external leaks in the carbs. > > Am I safe to assume this is a float valve problem? > > Tim > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 07:56:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28832D034E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:56:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D932D02B8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.53]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20120801115803939.JAK22060@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:58:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=DIipoSdhG2wNNJvi6DgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:48000] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6F/B1-17657-E7919105; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:56:47 +0000 Message-ID: <5019195F.6060508@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 07:56:15 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com References: In-Reply-To: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] SU H6 float question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, Same problem here a few years ago but on the front carb. I was using the Gross (SP), jets and could not figure out why they were sticking closed. So I replaced them both with the original ones from Moss and problem solved. I have heard others mention that they are not fans of the Gross jets. If you have the stock jets, just replace them with new ones. Problem may be related to the alcohol in the gas but not sure. Could also be varnish or some other junk in the jet. Bob On 08/01/2012 05:37 AM, KingsCreekTrees@aol.com wrote: > Hi all; > > My TR3A has had a running problem for a long time that I have not had time > to address. Finally, I am getting around to spending a few minutes here and > there on it. > > After I drive it for 10/15 minutes, there is a very sudden loss of engine > power and hesitation in the engine. I can usually maintain momentum for a > couple of minutes and then the engine dies. Five minutes later, it starts > fine. I've replaced everything ignition related, as well as fuel filter. > > I drove the car a couple of weeks ago. As soon as the engine lost power, I > pulled over and removed the top of the float bowls. The float in the front > carb was floating. The float in the rear carb was not, and there was no > fuel in the bowl. There do not appear to be any external leaks in the carbs. > > Am I safe to assume this is a float valve problem? > > Tim ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 10:23:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2592D2D0337 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:23:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7B22D0300 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:40:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 229-21.speede.golden.net ([216.59.229.21] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Swa8L-00074U-EW for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:42:45 -0400 Message-ID: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:42:47 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: I fitted SU carb kits to my H4 carbs and was very pleased with the quality of the SU kits and the components supplied. Managed to get all of the leaks stopped and the float/needle issues straightened out. Only one problem, I can't manage to get the rear float bowl attachment point to stop leaking. The front carb float bowl with the supplied fiber washers is fine - no leaks, but the rear is another matter. I dressed the mating surfaces with a file, doubled up on the fiber washers, bu no luck. Still a prominent leak. I have used new fiber washers each time, but still no luck. Any substitute for the fiber washers? Something in a softer, more compliant material to affect a better seal against the bowl/carb body? What about using something like Permatex on the washers? Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks, Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 11:05:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712982D0368 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:05:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.252]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 835E02D02FF for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 16:36:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.193] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 16:36:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 16:36:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 225895.69378.bm@omp1051.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77750 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2012 16:36:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1343838963; bh=nOxesHKHwmef19rsq7Ah028Qn5Dr56uI8bkx622KGWM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DFGcmb4XgCTAPA93tHCYDFqhsWOYZrn4yfLmn42MmHXSqBYpB9hLVtt2BUYG+fkoo7G7oT42LZZOAVjARxpVcj8SjnG7CGNI5zDNtOOyWAejdus6HjDidr1tmrnGZ2u9FTnpvir90ndKvdiPrsukayZmk1s4WqWZ7/ROkNeBmuw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gLge7Gf4b872jSAJDjzpcQQkS6QKpryzqxXSEt1BfvowULasJbRmsV32DndyuU+aFgJsioF1mA+8qijBaRyCRM1Mq8y3t53SlYAZQ7YBfKul7NWBxGUWic7/EKGlDi8jk5DbE/byfuwmaj+zFeRNSCEDnsCsd7rxelYSS0aOGkk=; X-YMail-OSG: gYEhWEcVM1kxtqs76_r2fTjpGutusXkoCOhaxebxN38a6r6 lBJY_3Cy2R8CNGmt61zyhXlO09eKV7J3fmQaEKpzZYs.gb7u36SZ4bfiPz02 YsRVYvPpgIXrdEoLqUmICIoh_ua4_jHTHso9Aa6i9GjAHpqrSA9q.CMH5hPh Oybkh4RkC3IbWCUUYk4CxvUbbe99Dbw4rj7EBOBRJm4nY4e1nmno2cCvjTxf z8KOKYKr9GcWVbriNpqvQPC1n_whVa3gEKieegLGHYan7ShOHOjMf2HizcpL Fl8o_qSDK6tClvqDKbhF8sQeWvLQ58zdAiWQuu9_EDVaC4XVFIxfqqjXxPqg hYW.bm0zXC8DMhmEGtZke4sDsblmkjoh8MlKM.eUktsg2ztMjgPQrovNvNN9 pgI6GMjB3jqJWAgZ1fHRaaVayLbq9OLaILehJYf2dxbyFBkW6MRKCjkmnlol LAO2WVS_D4066bQwNj1PL7kKCIAY8Aq6oAaEd.Zsw Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:36:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> Message-ID: <1343838962.77035.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Angelo Graham , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i put a thin film of Hylomar on mine. i did it first time and no leaks. so i cant say if it was the Hylomar or just good gasket fit Frank ________________________________ From: Angelo Graham To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:42 AM Subject: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers Hello List: I fitted SU carb kits to my H4 carbs and was very pleased with the quality of the SU kits and the components supplied. Managed to get all of the leaks stopped and the float/needle issues straightened out. Only one problem, I can't manage to get the rear float bowl attachment point to stop leaking. The front carb float bowl with the supplied fiber washers is fine - no leaks, but the rear is another matter. I dressed the mating surfaces with a file, doubled up on the fiber washers, bu no luck. Still a prominent leak. I have used new fiber washers each time, but still no luck. Any substitute for the fiber washers? Something in a softer, more compliant material to affect a better seal against the bowl/carb body? What about using something like Permatex on the washers? Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks, Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 12:20:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE72D0287 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:20:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.192]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 40B672D035D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:20:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.90] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:20:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:20:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 284222.81459.bm@omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10370 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2012 18:20:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=g/v4HfDNsHfLE/ghG/XDooYC/qYjFBwmL22AFNCjIuyoHsggAmrwp9mmfuoaYIloHzuCPL2HcyKA6fgPbYNK8wBP3P8Q9A+l2Pgy2NojgCbBTEzA5u/dHH4VfEel9HBvNlhelPvDxZveACU8E6yzg8d38GicycMImgj1Z5H4owY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1343845241; bh=bpiizcCpY7Ose8hQ+04KOg2sSebx758xaGF0EhW7qH4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=XS/1QvG5SBF/c+iIZm1W1lx5JAnBTKGyA6T8eKMoqmHah6YHBEArkGQRfOFvGVt221J/8kh5fqkpr/Ol7Htqn8zHlXJbnbRUmGrcsAINFJludGY0KtsHGntwPhsmL4znLc7KrBt/VwVNR34yPaBxNh2XlqHOTPlP8GRm4pueIDQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DfALItMVM1n.wTwtTXgumfY8mgW8BbkoitcHWj9x0etlcLm b2J9AuEBEtQvaf2ILY4GbozSY.gR9HgcymJERd.u_WVbBhLw0K3CEnx98hlX EWisMTMR3N_20nO4fnarqLF6ObMpzn1HCPEWt5.hk.eebA3OemLb0jHaBDF6 ps2eP4jilV6MJqHSJomyjdJWNPt.epiVekx2cFGfkKdlyVkK9e7dETIZ2DJo W3thkQYT5s3l7ZPr4MEgfrIw6glbAnGZmt9GEOXMscL.Zp6_qHzgz.MteLPp DbJM_qX8a_uJfkHmk6MEfa7J5TbrxneAst6iW9cgqI.jvv4WWLkiVqsxTl7q bwwalnCIFo78vvhiWYbWivXWohFUzk54eqnvSNcXBU1lE7LsThIgj8U0fM8M QqVwappugEiSSujyfv_cN_XlSoieCMUWNl3JojfOHy5pEfGH3KprzAIUGcrh qZMr3e_bMMoRWec5AgZsYFda2qU0uT_vgspL9dFQzV0l9XWaZhoQM X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.178.177.55] (wbeech@32.149.161.20 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Aug 2012 11:20:39 -0700 PDT References: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> <1343838962.77035.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1343838962.77035.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <25A46E0D-78D8-458D-B82D-C69EE5DD8B0F@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:21:29 -0500 To: Frank Fisher Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I guess H4 and H6 kits are different. Mine came with rubber grommets. Sent from mobile Bill On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > i put a thin film of Hylomar on mine. > i did it first time and no leaks. so i cant say if it was the Hylomar or just good gasket fit > Frank > > > ________________________________ > From: Angelo Graham > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:42 AM > Subject: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers > > Hello List: > I fitted SU carb kits to my H4 carbs and was very pleased with the quality of the SU kits and the components supplied. Managed to get all of the leaks stopped and the float/needle issues straightened out. Only one problem, I can't manage to get the rear float bowl attachment point to stop leaking. The front carb float bowl with the supplied fiber washers is fine - no leaks, but the rear is another matter. > I dressed the mating surfaces with a file, doubled up on the fiber washers, bu no luck. Still a prominent leak. I have used new fiber washers each time, but still no luck. > Any substitute for the fiber washers? Something in a softer, more compliant material to affect a better seal against the bowl/carb body? What about using something like Permatex on the washers? > Any advice greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Angelo Graham > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 12:34:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572022D034E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:34:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5262D02BE for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:30:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:30:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:30:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 582901.54860.bm@omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 68194 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2012 18:30:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1343845813; bh=z+z8gs+YWmhJxl4uyQlJUCb/u/lSmPvsGbGojMspZXk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sB9ZNPAx/pMaM1tW/K8mYM1iSv9AlcWKQ9QEarHExMQDzC8+aTZWOXIEXqvkwOtU2xrkdxrtlN/QoWNBi72EyTJZho6kK3hz3bfYYzYBd13exwI07o3HmtQNaXAXuUdcLY5SuXmLWIWnMin4hz8y/PCw8qF6tsiv66/t2ftoB6s= s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mZiDh2DgS+lM78bUlrKM3eMLl9YU24VocTnvzUpxuUWizb9gUt/jsytarPJZgoWs7oVmEwD0DyNwB45GuMPSkwhQJ/RwYrqj5VIhEywJLzdQxS7qpghVqC0LW7glUYij/QVc/ZTNlXB+5LBxA0QpIAvIN3p08xWgOniTsDY94H0=; X-YMail-OSG: U57XOH0VM1n4ZzJwcn0JV9joQX7YwvXgVv1KuyMe2QrYbwG qOHeizP8cfVgzakHdsFidADyDhRYXwVhGtw_0wBhHlZnlK5Fvs3wqCvEOXFG Fbeap1J2Uc1awTXWz2Aw3VnliYphx2TMMv6hYufFRN.XuCmAjVxTaUYWJ6WI tW5UpUHtULg38ELIEz82.Y5KjX6RIPegeDEh9K.7OKYVrHfULzznLGTfk6vO IzNE3Ihnt07Vjag_5S6IA5h6fKvDlNbxPgd48hqnWOVOLEI.g.98vCFjMSfy kfkoSaEZ_3VamPMlHsMJpZvJaHhFFHR.NlnCzcIsBT9.9KqmAZPzicTbz16C J21he175wu8cCv8bAuqpKWThTGbQsvGieTF1uyFBH2uWUMbKav_Fe2hMkc6t 0mbTvSpUe58c0zWlonX9x6Si9t5FI7Ph9btItKjH0cfgpjN4aVSnBjWvRev8 U1ia3qv8b.dJKC_Des0Fi7Pk4VyZJ7j3qv1LhPj.QjwLwFA-- Received: from [67.217.112.45] by web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:30:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343845813.67518.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:30:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Merone To: Triumph List , 6 Pack list <6pack@autox.team.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Going to the TRials? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joe Merone List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all: Is anyone on this list going to the 6-pack TRials in Niagara Falls this September from either New England or upstate New York? I'm still on the fence, but if we go I'd like to join a caravan headed that way if possible. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Joe Merone CF18928 jmerone@rocketmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 12:39:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814162D03B0 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:39:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F712D0287 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q71Ig1pX012265; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:42:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.228] (74-143-240-34.static.insightbb.com [74.143.240.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D3FE5E000096; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Thornton X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <5406D264-A1D6-4E38-ACAC-8F980A02ADD6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:42:06 -0500 To: TR List Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1343846521; bh=8zXHWTGGOSJYE9KJOn2xkQ8MDnRLcMDNyaTePMbDekw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SctPtpol6Qoj4cQFzvSHBtnGiilze5Zbx0lnp4Lxm++EUBjZaHAFKdNFWU+7VjkA0 q/bYphXH9qqD9RUHbKtqTSKEW/NCkbNXpEeGJdFaHfrnfp73LjNkAgIxb8Fm3axtz2 xTz9gKPVQEnc3csfnSUXfUqcNmH/XUOPjmhtRXJc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:298787008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c3501978786bdf X-AOL-IP: 74.143.240.34 Cc: Ed Baumgartner , John Swauger Subject: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List- Who is going to Pennsylvania this weekend for the Summer Party? Toga, toga, toga,.... Steven O. Thornton Attorney at Law 1011 Lehman Avenue Suite 102 Bowling Green, KY. 42103 Sent from my iPad ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 12:42:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22FA2D03AB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:42:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D0542D036E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:42:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:44:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.8] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:44:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 18:44:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 412641.12180.bm@omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39727 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2012 18:44:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1343846698; bh=nWUkl4xMv5kDwg8zXQJh7RjQys1rfPsBRjUUU9bQZ24=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2U0MEvCgxJMZK5MFRIg4yy/zw4fGBI1d9PqURDt/3pzLytaCq9jNuVir8mXBzvB8tcBTmo/KhdCK2UICk3RWQU+kfic33hkGM7OmA7eHFGzvwYc7bQ8xgibAZAbSTgoMDqLQBa9IVxJYZjOvDUFT48urSQx//ytfxjvj8OjDPN4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tvtt2YeJFQ8BSssMNeZ1ExRf3TNq4JsoxcYywnEhNGNIDTxPCNRhqwt+DvTVSdSAZ6k/3ypyC0QT5r1BXHHNeplds1bgYJnzEkszs3qxDpoZdy0HzyUeYc3hCfh5UcB+34MiFN5QBxtgJZuoeaM4Xb3UMIKRj+fTcKA6Xssgqk8=; X-YMail-OSG: DrvoWMUVM1mLPmv.54QfxubxDfjCeSMX.Z1xKuxjhi7OwMy zbU7kyTTkPFUC8WDnRO_T6V65Qg0yL3YZz8n8PKvha8u1ibaR3gWsiivQX6v ZRR2k5pXGwIeTtzB4P69QvTUL7pnpfuJYplAObjeFhCnBoM2lFfwSZJa46o_ uIw0o69Sk9ez3XNY6FP2XGPsvCY9G9eket4er2FDC137r9UcJ7Mry3aqj4Rk YjNS6G9czCAEPkPptX8TabALJyMyQSwoBMFDrS4BVHXy5zGit41.ilegAgAe xGJLg.Vv5JfoAz5bJdrNklCGfJQs6UwMslUJYJQ0H.duwPsqWirz0YrPlfxC VPdI1KxXCI0SirlTKQMm_J7tU7pyJ_1AiJ0HeqaTIt3xOk.0pSj_5gGpYyeQ RKarmmREOcDrabves22cxcSQYp9x07vLHPQHGbsTbPMU1PgnuW2ZwOFGsBG1 oL4tJBUHJ5la1SBQdH2fH1WrC6NpQD6KCZQ0UJXAiBrRjIHiyyaL15ns3xAu qbQzsRuXRaIjOVFKd4M1gvWwSBO2TfqJOT2eDMSg2lhtYjJia_BlfA0p9LXw lIueefOEYqkQeVD8wymqKG5hH5r4XvLE0yEqFPQRgYOqZgRqJSrI- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:44:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1343845813.67518.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1343846697.38807.YahooMailNeo@web120204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Joe Merone , Triumph List , 6 Pack list <6pack@autox.team.net> In-Reply-To: <1343845813.67518.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Going to the TRials? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net may want to fit a quick release seat belt assembly if your going over the falls in a TR6! ________________________________ From: Joe Merone To: Triumph List ; 6 Pack list <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: [TR] Going to the TRials? Hi all: Is anyone on this list going to the 6-pack TRials in Niagara Falls this September from either New England or upstate New York? I'm still on the fence, but if we go I'd like to join a caravan headed that way if possible. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Joe Merone CF18928 jmerone@rocketmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 12:51:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004322D0390 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:51:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855392D0365 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:50:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q71IqaB6009887 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:52:36 -0400 Received: from core-mac001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mac001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.24.193]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 019AFE000092; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:52:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TR250Driver@aol.com Message-ID: <2f93c.573c8dd1.3d4ad4f3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:52:35 -0400 (EDT) To: SOThornton@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [98.27.194.190] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1343847156; bh=jUg+HH9u/bPfXfaJ6mdtgxqaQIBOwAM1Wys3Z5HS2OA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qhIQjcmgIO5e25/GB/DUdVtM6IA+6u0Fd8BbsRttSHAcLSU0NJ3aQEZSwHfW8OjrR MKS8xbw9oNd94tgBL/8immvk+92dQKEAawEuPzUkO/7SFgs1QdZWxW8/I8R5q4QIj4 llziPVvSI7H0v9wdLkzs2c6qb3b8ikSVkeJ0lJmA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:469666592:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50197af33079 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Steve, Beverly & I will be there. TKD Tappa Kegga Day!!!!! Toga----Toga----Toga Darrell In a message dated 8/1/2012 2:42:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SOThornton@aol.com writes: Who is going to Pennsylvania this weekend for the Summer Party? Toga, toga, toga,.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 13:30:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB3F2D03A8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:30:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852C2C0D05 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP337 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:33:00 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.193.92] X-Originating-Email: [trmarty@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [10.249.190.47] ([174.252.193.92]) by BLU0-SMTP337.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:32:59 -0700 From: "trmarty@hotmail.com" To: "Steve Thornton", "TR List" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:33:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5406D264-A1D6-4E38-ACAC-8F980A02ADD6@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <5406D264-A1D6-4E38-ACAC-8F980A02ADD6@aol.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2012 19:33:00.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[75D522F0:01CD701C] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/related by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html Cc: Ed Baumgartner , John Swauger Subject: Re: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXXp4qwqH: Permission denied [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of ic_list_happy.png] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 13:54:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212D92D03AB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:54:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133272D02AC for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:54:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20120801194231265.NUXY257@cdptpa-qmta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:42:31 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Dlo4Oc4gAAAA:20 a=O_dsge900KgRQ2bePngA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=giMI8HVRFYMA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:23578] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id DD/6B-29356-96689105; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:41:30 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:42:11 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01cd701d$beff5760$3cfe0620$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1vydn9TZPgQ5y5RbO1K4YGRxViWgAUtxxA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] SU H6 float question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Am I safe to assume this is a float valve problem? I would not assume that, especially since you say the engine dies completely later on. Incoming fuel is routed to the front carb first, so if there isn't enough to feed both carbs, the rear carb is the one that starves. And the engine will run (although not well, dies at idle, etc) on just the front carb. I would be looking for a fuel delivery problem first. Most "vacuum test gauges" will also measure fuel pressure. Tee it into the fuel line and prop the gauge under a wiper arm so you can see it when the engine starts to act up. http://goo.gl/HnvRG As I think someone already mentioned, you can try leaving the fuel cap open to be sure it is not a tank venting problem. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 13:55:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30522D03D6 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:55:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A65C2D02AC for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20120801193052779.DUIG4422@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:30:52 +0000 Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=FDanvucNmKcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=NoPha3FKAAAA:20 a=Fr4CYbU3_tr6763qt3gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SGa2hhreAwIA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:23571] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 41/36-29356-DA389105; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:29:49 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <50194067.9010709@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:30:30 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01cd701c$1d6c6290$584527b0$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1wAmDOddMV2IGYTfixFiAxUbCY9QAF5/iQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 carb issue - fiber washers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I dressed the mating surfaces with a file, doubled up on the fiber > washers, bu no luck. Still a prominent leak. I have used new fiber > washers each time, but still no luck. The book shows a washer "set" with 3 washers in the diagram. I assume the bottom washer is steel. Are you installing all 3 washers? Does the bolt clamp down tight against the bowl (meaning you can't move the bowl after the bolt is tight) ? > Any substitute for the fiber washers? The Burlen web site shows the later rubber grommets (for the H6) as fitting the H4. You may also need the steel flat washer that goes against the bolt head. http://goo.gl/Xrh46 They also show a plastic (poly perhaps) replacement for the rubber that might work better. (I think I'll order a few of those myself as I get tired of replacing the rubber every few years.) It might be worth removing the carb from the engine, and holding it up where you can see clearly where the leak is. It might not be the washer at all. For example, there is a small plug in the bowl casting that might be leaking, or there could be a crack somewhere that isn't visible otherwise. I've tried various kinds of sealer on the rubber grommets over the years, none of them seem to help for very long. Classic Permatex is dissolved by ethanol, so I wouldn't think it would be a good choice (but didn't actually try it). But it might be different with the fiber washers, so may be worth a try if all else fails. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 14:12:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C562D03A2 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:12:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D0DC72C0D2D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 20:08:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.92] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 20:08:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Aug 2012 20:08:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 762787.47555.bm@omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 92793 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2012 20:08:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1343851681; bh=12gM14f2VMlGjpEqFIVGvAkJE4YjU/dW9+i5Fy6LkOk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5o9PiCS0lJEkeTD+lw+KjuVPABvY1QHEp29ku/qK1otSZnlJ6coHlvnKB4wWet2UdBTcj6tGVAwFqJfmdjejJs3PILfyyFIS/cRqE7CW1TY2KbO4803Lo8Ftpc0HGBNTBMLx2xsOWhvyylrLpup02ySt8HB43FRkS+RBr5dfbDo= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6V53zfuNn1ddu3+WpCvVw9Tuwd7n/NNk60ItslCCJn6OpLHUz59SM5miqmk4MdkmzsqA8ewtHC4glMeQ0E/RB0zPqwVMyBGRIKQlZoCHLA2CN7f95kFcoZOE8IQz7QpB/5H7EljTL6wI8MJazzeTvXyaPrjd7WIOpZjQfnI12uE=; X-YMail-OSG: DspRz1AVM1kC3PbfYREwg6oeiQhxda5VGBwtddxAiW4wmGj FazZkle9jFV1rAySgbD7W37mp87..vPuJQRYexbPMR63jm_PzfaA8lLV69oX HNuLuzihQR3gcf8H3vjUjAthPPeUkXpr6MBKm9fkmk18zpXe7mya3hXgigPj e7iyJuGas9bpsdph37Uw3lhZEaDGlyPueMMVxn3Us85QJT0WVu8api9ot.pz eiR0qXW.yAUzKRgS3j6CWFBflQwwE4feI1JO48kjk3xsIJhTBRBXuqvyQzKk MuhXamcpAeWKYdITJpxUUifecK0TVjNGOIgu5y35QNVDTPqlPKxSdnLDXinq tImibYx7OC5zGNh_xqCv2t_mG3AJeBBahU7WvO_k7vSncdrqnXRAIeNNWQqU qs_aqLcytFb4qSq6uSUO7f05DtxA5Ep.cCBc2.kGOVvPfLM8NX_vXVByf83l Z00DMuLmZpQYl5.a0aCz7CXIVyS_jMGH.diyKukM3c.8QocY2EO.zK987Q8i 8ahpMQyLj1A.IfCN8wfdYFSMbCcs.7wv19NDAdmOm Received: from [67.195.15.6] by web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:08:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1343830424.76943.YahooMailRC@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1343851681.92384.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <1343830424.76943.YahooMailRC@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fw: Upbeat muzik X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- Subject: Re: Upbeat muzik What language are they singing in? Much better than rap, agree? Y/N RSVP jdabars@att.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janis Dabars Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0D52D03F3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:29:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800E32D0383 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mommystoyii ([unknown] [173.69.208.181]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M8300BV6ICNJ4M0@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:29:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gary Klein" To: Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:29:12 -0400 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6863 Thread-index: Ac1wENzPIU0ODbHfSPe8NSr6LQGeowAG0Pcg In-reply-to: Subject: [TR] TR6 Diffy Axle Flange Removal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Everyone, I want to replace the shaft seals to stop the leaks and am wondering whether there is there a trick to remove the axle mounting flanges on a TR6 diffy? I've tried a big puller but they won't budge and applying heat could damage the bearings, right? Thanks in advance, Gary ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 15:32:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE2E2D048F for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:32:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ADA2D0406 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W27 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:35:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <5406D264-A1D6-4E38-ACAC-8F980A02ADD6@aol.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2012 21:35:19.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C8C3310:01CD702D] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/related by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Team Sukey will be there as always. Will bring the TR8 this year as nothing else is running :) . I will have a get well poster hanging someplace in the lobby for Bob Harris, please be sure to sign it. Togas are packed, see you there. Marty [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 17:15:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376622D0438 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:15:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1392C0AA1 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:10:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=xh5bNwCPpacA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=z0BDpJSYod8wXeCvIvMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:57861] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1C/C4-17657-0F7B9105; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:12:48 +0000 Message-ID: <5019B7CF.50003@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:12:15 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Klein References: In-Reply-To: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Diffy Axle Flange Removal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, I was able to remove both flanges by putting them in a large vice and the using my breaker bar on a large puller by hitting the breaker bar with a BFH. They both popped off after a few wacks with the hammer. But if that failed, I would have used my impact wrench on full on the puller. Good luck! Bob On 08/01/2012 05:29 PM, Gary Klein wrote: > Everyone, > > I want to replace the shaft seals to stop the leaks and am wondering whether > there is there a trick to remove the axle mounting flanges on a TR6 diffy? > I've tried a big puller but they won't budge and applying heat could damage > the bearings, right? > > Thanks in advance, > > Gary ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 17:20:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266602D04B8 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:20:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDAB2D0383 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:10:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so9102026vcb.14 for ; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AQeC3m5PFHqliD/sBtOgIyfppkQbuXgZbFbZQ/B2SlU=; b=bQTAhdzJp6PejJ8ZuXLoOm9QAZCOsMfllj2UaDzD32tTItH5REzSoKnCVYWC1btKM2 12X/3ghXpYfK1IKeCfjOd2FWL5zhdWAvdXSgmza1C8y0QRY7/CiC9YzxfH+1q88jOWFi IqlNhpzheeBwDu62YMbqTB7LkbKSUFZjpWP4ljbkCc8aCA3uV60AI7wCQoeyh+KOBF4D puU4YpencUbQTPNjhTPxKzjMzUgmu85s/4UeXKVcWYz7VrzcMCFUi6xPcj1lNw0yVVjK 2ngcfhf9dl4JzYaRK3NabPt2RBVy3DkiyLPBbZD1BBvcwkTmr1XHozUAVRPakc5SHOwg jSjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.150.138 with SMTP id y10mr18216632vcv.73.1343862800817; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.27.11 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:13:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Anyone rebuild a late Triumph's turn signal stalk (switch) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm rebuilding one. On reassembly should apply any sort of grease so it moves more smoothly? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Keller Williams Realty, Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 roysrealty.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 1 18:06:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F272D0489 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:06:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A6232D0326 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:02:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:02:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:02:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 407050.71489.bm@omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 7777 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2012 00:02:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1343865725; bh=9/fB0HG6wwoyTQph2sHtGDsiy0Wie4jHIR8KCliHswE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kwIxH4fA4aRsKCZQP3qpvpfA6uj+toupqj17OwW326ZyZ5wJgAm2n2GUh1wF/Oxt634eMfLRSkieocmSrw/EPOcvUC8S6prUOCZ02y6Pgzsb1v/jZFQj30vxYE+ZyxZfvtptEPhT+Kmwu6VUdT1/zOtYPfwFtz5DUJzexN333dU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zDCpf1v7iwARM9X4u6ohv/876UH3fvSGDvxJCuvawTQvslbXOtvpGAM4z1tKcdUsClWzdhhlQDNlxbjfdNBsjSysHhPPeaJL7JDltExTqCKXNHfomVbrbyDwAvPzs/UVB1GhzQKnyV/eaboe64Bbh4gcwG98QkT2+HuooUndfWI=; X-YMail-OSG: wj0PTM4VM1nFioqN_sGORvGd.RWnw.yC.hpOk6bM3vL1IM3 2NeRjO24A0thau8b9ksxwBdEO4TUldim1CkFqHD4zSQJ6jWt3H9ZnsP66D4Q Mg4K_iREWf0fyoRXSKqYgde5JbwWhTONrtXYUT4OjnVUKiLeBSvVoguFG9Ud qhcQIXs2HPzTiYsTYp0V.qdM4PyZz5j_lrxQP6LVpNCGj7Rl.ZCKXT.6Zx7u wzqCQYD0xGpZX85sg8jF639Ktjz1EkOGgaeOwFl88mQzUkKGBZyyboOjBC6s AYYjDHGO_PYmcyZzFUP8dpweNhVxTVJw92kkeLx6vwb7fEDtjUX8akBbRNO. yalaroq0A2Xc24yOee2vFWBiE8FI3rF86237O_C2LiijqJ7hQBKuKehpIzqu A2t2IFHpfRWnf7P1uBTAxuDGh12X_bB_42lED_5Z3ZQr1KTyInM2phySYsqf M6D0psKrd49OZEiNRszVvbJyW2NtQXQkrXAovCPHoHQ6wn_KQobzA2xdh5h_ Mc9qnuWua_yVWdalQtYNCbJWUTl3FXJqO0w1fSc._ Received: from [67.195.15.6] by web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:02:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1343830424.76943.YahooMailRC@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1343865725.7099.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <1343830424.76943.YahooMailRC@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fw: Upbeat muzik X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What language are they singing in? Much better than rap, agree? Y/N RSVP jdabars@att.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janis Dabars Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FA92D053D for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:54:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F0BD32D04CC for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 18:52:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:55:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.67] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:55:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2012 00:55:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 220817.110.bm@omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61164 invoked by uid 60001); 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Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:55:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343868905.60506.YahooMailRC@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Good traveling musik X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Klik on this www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 3min 58sec ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 2 12:42:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A242C2D04AC for ; 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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:43:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343933017.28396.YahooMailRC@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fw: @@@@ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janis Dabars To: John Dabars Sent: Thu, August 2, 2012 2:41:35 PM Subject: Fw: @@@@ klik here www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 2 12:44:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E2A2D042A for ; 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Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:46:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1343933204.34736.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Travel song X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net klik here www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 12:45:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66022D04C4 for ; 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Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:40:09 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344019209.75967.YahooMailRC@web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry about the TRASH but I can not figure how to enter the www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 info which should come up in blue. Will NOT send this cute site again. John, Indianapolis, IN. WHOA is this the correct way? Enter the www.youtube info on Subject line? ________________________________ From: "triumphs-request@autox.team.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 2:04:50 PM Subject: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to triumphs@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to triumphs-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at triumphs-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fw: @@@@ (Janis Dabars) 2. Travel song (Janis Dabars) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Fw: @@@@ Message-ID: <1343933017.28396.YahooMailRC@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Janis Dabars To: John Dabars Sent: Thu, August 2, 2012 2:41:35 PM Subject: Fw: @@@@ klik here www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Travel song Message-ID: <1343933204.34736.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" klik here www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-Wmau780 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Triumphs mailing list Triumphs@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 321 **************************************** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 14:02:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE542D05FD for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:02:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249AD2D05D7 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:01:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iE3A1j00317UAYkA7L3gyl; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:03:40 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.23] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iL3e1j00M4L5TyG8ZL3fL9; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:03:39 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net, FOT List , 6pack@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:03:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TR] Sad day - I sold a Triumph X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That gap in my signature below is "66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts)" that has now become an organ donor for other TRs. I sold it to Paul Dierschow of Sports Car Craftsmen here in Denver if you're looking for things not available in catalogs such as a rear shelf or B posts. So in celebration of me actually selling a car instead of buying another my wife went shopping, now that's insult to injury. The celebration may be short lived thought if I buy a vintage race car. Somberly, Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 14:05:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B122D061E for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:05:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAA52D05C7 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so1285452vbk.14 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:07:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6v6C/bBS8ul0SzqDKlouxogbOXt8UWp77Nu9GRaWtvY=; b=XsAnNpoUeHRR30DhlQeBbGvr0cC+pwtEaeK3MDJjWJJa2PUzC+2ukHJR6hEpJFhOCF 1Vr2tqlbQpXTB0HavsQEK2+2632POtdFRHX6XBXmQQMDYMp+fkriJ9y8ogqP0eAWhXxz eSwzs9VkQQIOu3EUCdBLJyc0VuNjTNNIC6j39Bnkf8JZt9epXF3DeQ0dGSLANDJJ9ISS AUdW9vf7IB3zGLs7DaluVKVhmYZPkHB9oHcfk8SXDnhiw3Z7/iyXeek3p+UaZkkzNJL4 vjuOpLwlBoLXwGk1/CcnGGfrY5rPGOJYOukiC1kvqKNRQtyn8me+CuVewtwTUQi2weiK wlqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.4.232 with SMTP id n8mr2547471ven.54.1344024453820; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.27.11 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 13:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 13:07:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] poly verses non-ploy bushes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm in the slow process of building a 2nd stag and am debating whether to go for poly bushes or not. The Stag is not a performance car that you can swing around corners and I don't plan on using performance shocks or the like. The cost of poly is about 4 times more than normal bushes? Will the bushes last 4 times longer? What other benefits do I get for the price? Sujit ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 16:26:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2042D05F7 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:26:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DB02D05D1; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so1667179ghr.14 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=COigbo5oc0sW39N/No8930Ey0ghn1FbgSJb6IePNCA8=; b=rYkxvP5np98PiQCn6DevV8fxVR0J7guOPN//5aMvXdiRzRQGQ+EyrZnT5EzkydabRx MP2Q9d7HRwykFWFl5/Hm10Sg2CLnw/lzXkHx4bo7XyHY+hGxy7tpN0kx50/7V0rBt9yP bkmEj0BlOVXstl8cvwp4MNTkLN+fO6AVjnGiKB01VqZfS9phfEi1tc0BNEaAWTYTGOLx flN9bISCHBdodjiCJ/hQHz9bX2A5QeJN9/+BpC8cyWpsmFvgTZEB/5sFoA+ZcTz0x5Rp bnSBiAAE2dJfP2kuScntYmxa+avVUaKsYHVCMaIlaffiA0rTHFH5FEMJsVDhv8biObMT 4iFA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.181.138 with SMTP id dw10mr5578990igc.48.1344032882163; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.56.3 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:28:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:28:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: Bud Rolofson X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net, FOT List Subject: Re: [TR] Sad day - I sold a Triumph X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not if ... WHEN On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > That gap in my signature below is "66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost > parts)" that has now become an organ donor for other TRs. I sold it to > Paul Dierschow of Sports Car Craftsmen here in Denver if you're looking for > things not available in catalogs such as a rear shelf or B posts. > > So in celebration of me actually selling a car instead of buying another > my wife went shopping, now that's insult to injury. The celebration may be > short lived thought if I buy a vintage race car. > > Somberly, > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > levilevi@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/triosan@**gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 17:10:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5D42D05FE for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:10:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704552D053D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iEWl1j0031eYJf8A7P9yTJ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:09:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.24] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iP9x1j00C4L5TyG01P9xtk; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:09:58 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:09:55 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Sad Day - I sold a Triumph X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That gap in my signature below is "66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts)" that has now become an organ donor for other TRs. I sold it to Paul Dierschow of Sports Car Craftsmen here in Denver if you're looking for things not available in catalogs such as a rear shelf or B posts. So in celebration of me actually selling a car instead of buying another my wife went shopping, now that's insult to injury. The celebration may be short lived though if I buy a vintage race car. Somberly, Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 17:58:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460B92D0621 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:58:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A44A12D055A for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 00:00:40 -0000 Received: from [72.30.22.37] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 00:00:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 00:00:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 899272.59395.bm@omp1067.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56326 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2012 00:00:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344038439; bh=xWkXICAo2DncOjkhJNSwGBVQc5PYMxyCfLIv/1zURpI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JrOO5ogtCKY/Mhxj4N1vzwG74ahuBZ8i1dfh38zB5+5hpEfIh0I8gOp40a2mbgkpMrwDky6B3hVr020aQFTrTt1FnCARhC+l1iFbtcJsMecBjiGFyJXGWquwUluTpE6OrC8LRmFekC/fKwZpnh7iocLc8J6VEXGg30PrePWPhtA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SU/zvMXYjdJybwU7m6ALEfNuB8TJ2mn/G3q5s3NU9+8nZIB5/zYEUuN5fQlzG53wdBvdOhxKXGhhJ34zcM9M9Dy/pkJG2sxbrioB+N8ylATAeSD5T85Y3XGD1lmG46W5G7mVpV7uzDbpqIozZvH+Y0UeyqzV3/2i1wvQsXpL3Ho=; X-YMail-OSG: BZn_uqwVM1kXyJY7iNDdiHnV2hXePuEErj8DpDZOHdSnFNF 9NpfHAn8IgyTKpRbchUN5sDvt1cKOI_eeVffAzvxxwEtc3GbctcB58MHbmvO dbHJmI7RfTpAA2tfgCj9vI84Gvrq7o0yM.tCn.ZtZoPtCRzur0SvcX1gIWIt wcXlqGDqGzOvIJoWfQqJ0mSH4yeqmI1D5vBwk.v4FShC9fWwALYcBeN2l0by 20fQ9E3Vnvsku8LOdQd3WhIlhSHgwuGUZjzaj8Z6Do3iWyRD95Y_LfB9FosD yfS.nCX2A.XPTd.UtcPFPi7sVMC6DtsqTy.DNzwX2cm9qm6MCHB.B78Bj3aM CNpyU1OQgnsUXnI.ywMCs_3.vvnzcxeAYjcIi_HfXlsuashlFHkW4B6AWx2o SjRbVdGvuXgR525RPgHDpf60AqBiWzx_R.Ydk1vyE3tvMOVB1lP7OvYE_iXr Q2pJ48OWIcr2hpO3qfQ25niZXz8R1axsgAbomhEPYkJw- Received: from [74.110.19.237] by web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:00:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1343908295.97403.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1344038439.54779.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:00:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "jmerone@rocketmail.com" In-Reply-To: <1343908295.97403.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Digest TR List Subject: Re: [TR] Going to the TRials? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! I sent this to Joe M. the other day & didn't get a reply. A lot of times my E-mails don't go through to people because their server's think it's Spam mail. So I'm sending this to the list to have anyone reply to my questions that may have the answers. PLEASE reply directly to my E-mail address (above), because I'm sure the list is to busy with more important threads, than mine. TIA, -Cosmo Kramer From: Cosmo Kramer >To: "jmerone@rocketmail.com" >Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:51 AM >Subject: Going to the TRials? > > > >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:30:13 -0700 (P >From: Joe Merone >Subject: [TR] Going to the TRials? > >Hi all: >Is anyone on this list going to the 6-pack TRials in Niagara >Falls this September from either New England or upstate New York? I'm still >on the fence, but if we go I'd like to join a caravan headed that way if >possible. Please contact me off list. > >Thanks, >Joe Merone >------------------------------- >Hi Joe! >This is the first time that I've heard of anything going on in Niagara Falls (NF). >Is this event in NF, USA or NF, CA? >What are the date/s of this event? >Is there a web site address that you can send to me, for me to view on the agenda? > >The reason that I'm asking is, that I live East, only 30->45 min. away from NF, USA. >Do you think that IF I offer my house (I have a spare bedroom) to stay the night/s, that anyone would be willing to take me up on it? (Thus save the cost of hotel/motel.) >-Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 22:22:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A032D04FE for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:22:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD3B2D04DE for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iUGF1j0041Y3wxoA2UGquy; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:16:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.24] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iUGo1j00F4L5TyG8bUGprS; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:16:49 +0000 Message-Id: <7C934897-0FAA-49BD-A3D0-22120A37833D@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:16:47 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, If an A type OD has three switches on the top cover does that means it has a seat belt interlock? And if it only has two switches on the top cover does that mean it only has an OD and reverse switch without a seat belt interlock? What year did the seat belt interlock switches appear? Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 22:38:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2212D05CC for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:38:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AF42D0341 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iTP21j00A1wfjNsA3UYfPP; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:32:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.24] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iUYd1j0074L5TyG8jUYe20; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:32:39 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 22:32:36 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, If an A type OD has three switches on the top cover does that means it has a seat belt interlock? And if it only has two switches on the top cover does that mean it only has an OD and reverse switch without a seat belt interlock? What year did the seat belt interlock switches appear? Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 3 23:25:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFDC2D053D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:25:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DD12D04C3 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:22:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LIjkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=eujWl0wI4G4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nNCpAA_kAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=BjKV6iyjzStYiY6yeGwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=6jutBlbNCx4A:10 a=Nj_GCVpQxMUA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:51147] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 77/45-01685-A22BC105; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 05:24:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Bud Rolofson" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 00:25:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bud, take a look here, may help http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Gearbox/GearboxCover/GearboxCover.htm The Buckeye Triumphs site is a great technical resource. http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/technical.htm Good Luck! Greg Lemon 68 TR250 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question > List, > > If an A type OD has three switches on the top cover does that means it > has a seat belt interlock? And if it only has two switches on the top > cover does that mean it only has an OD and reverse switch without a > seat belt interlock? What year did the seat belt interlock switches > appear? > > Thanks > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > levilevi@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 00:02:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045A62D055A for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 00:02:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124922D0335 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 00:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iW481j0010cZkys51W4f6j; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 06:04:39 +0000 Received: from remote.Friele.us ([67.183.157.139]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iW4e1j00730kJ4r3WW4f8L; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 06:04:39 +0000 Received: from DELL-T310.FRIELEHOME.local ([fe80::81b8:b81f:152b:114]) by DELL-T310.FRIELEHOME.local ([fe80::81b8:b81f:152b:114%16]) with mapi; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:04:28 -0700 From: Sean Friele To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:04:14 -0700 Thread-Topic: New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal Thread-Index: Ac1yBvmhy8QEJc/hTFOBwzQ6HFt+/g== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm Sean. I inhereted a TR3A from my grandparants (original owners) and discovered a broken Clutch pedal. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell or can recomend a source I can get it from? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 01:04:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C06C2D053D for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 01:04:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB002C0D11 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 01:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iWuN1j00616AWCUACX70mm; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:07:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.24] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iX6y1j0094L5TyG8SX6zHy; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:06:59 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Greg Lemon In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7FFCD82D-8775-46BA-B142-BA2D6C7954D7@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 01:06:57 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Greg, that info. is exactly what I wanted to know. I should have remembered to go to the Buckeye site, Nelson Riedel's stuff is the best information around. Certainly the catalogs are no help on top covers and switches Bud 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Greg Lemon wrote: > Hi Bud, take a look here, may help > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/Gearbox/GearboxCover/GearboxCover.htm > > The Buckeye Triumphs site is a great technical resource. > > http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/technical.htm > > Good Luck! > > Greg Lemon > 68 TR250 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" > > To: > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:32 PM > Subject: [TR] A type OD top cover switch question > > >> List, >> >> If an A type OD has three switches on the top cover does that means >> it >> has a seat belt interlock? And if it only has two switches on the top >> cover does that mean it only has an OD and reverse switch without a >> seat belt interlock? What year did the seat belt interlock switches >> appear? >> >> Thanks >> Bud Rolofson >> >> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) >> 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) >> 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) >> Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >> levilevi@comcast.net >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 05:14:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950752D06F3 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 05:14:01 -0600 (MDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: autox.team.net mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@autox.team.net To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 05:04:11 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your autox.team.net mailing list memberships. 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X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Getting slight weeping from the end of the stator tube on my '2 and I may have overtightened the nut in efforts to stop the leaking. Is this nut a 'specialty' item or can it be sourced from local hardware suppliers as a compression nut? Same question for the olives. Have seen the information on the olives for the hard gas lines in the 2/3s and wondering if the same holds for the stator olive. Thanks for any insight into this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 11:02:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D898C2D0A4E for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:02:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242432D0A0C for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:56:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=JNVUB-ItGogA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0n6AtNt-VHeoGQUvAwIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2D/00-13948-2E45D105; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:59:14 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <501D522C.6040402@execulink.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:59:14 -0700 Message-ID: <13f001cd7262$7a691180$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <501D522C.6040402@execulink.com> Thread-Index: Ac1yYUIZ9UZsy8oGTdqVGtTDMw8qXAAAMdsQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 stator tube - nut. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The originals were slightly different dimensions than the ones commonly available today. In the past, I was able to "get away" with using hardware store items, but the last time I tried it, the nut would just slip off the threads when I tried to tighten it. If you can find an original nut, it might be able to clamp down on the hardware store olive; I didn't try that. But I won't be surprised if it works out like the fuel pump, it almost works but not quite. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 11:03:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746642D0A4C for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:03:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BFC512D0A1D for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:05:56 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:05:56 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.96] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:05:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:05:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 165104.27032.bm@omp1001.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20358 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2012 17:05:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=wgakwwLV+V6SNEana64M+rt4dZGq5R3VN2M/iC2UNtfo1DyjhL9BcqnTxBvQiuoQT1OASUz5/1Bye5PoZrIe/YmQyh4DGSqKZF0R7Bljhb+N7MNHvNKxliIMsDtU8llBdOEJbOqYyzRX9Gq9VCSHwOzVKChDWtbcaSrvztsDXIA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344099956; bh=VGdgIOOVUk0ZWK/1vrxYrVcObb193n+PFAW+xPeTPP4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=PasBcsmw3iL5bstxMzP47lIq4VclpTxJ87jYFyCMIPnY5mfmLnCWkTBzlsP+YJ2I28WLqQ58cIx5ZgOrV9GybvoqdmxJ/w1vUMc/dtW9SI4BwHiiONKHRSSN4DAqd+m+3nJJEAW7GTHhL9y/wIk1cOVa59cG8BPqfjXywULg010= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: imn.DQEVM1kKRVFv8KMi8SEOey8i9.en9Xh.8tVa0KjEqQr wSdze.Ablg_5DlIqs43piOAQ7UZlFvjVqY4w0NQ6Kay0sJQMrD1jUe46E5fq zBTYIfm4k8QDtbKAcc5abTI22ykoFBMQzFM_H8OSYK6r4s8WpjV2Eeux12Fu j8Mrqx7QsptFBKYuXfdrdo0WnBARAZMLMPe.tPlDMrvZTeimyfP7rbyn3M4p vPdECpDW08VEiiV714_JfeoM4tO76CcTTTMdZwxeyl5AVcCl8qqbKqm4N89K gUaTUvQroxhM5R4Q56h32LHduFezZtKSwNycphHQafhROlfEyJ8ivRY5gXci vLDodTvon7wEIaHP9Jadx3X3512GaLBP0Y3BDyTf3Fji67xZAuzalH0F8JJi dw.ePqSCoaBb9QiL8sbSdREq7Kz0f1Zzv.dbavhUcw_mvCtbh2LDnTb_BHBX FeLG7gBxVY0wo14J8IoSCGhsJIggsYqd7HmoTq5Dk7P1KgY_v X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2012 10:05:55 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <501D522C.6040402@execulink.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <05ED27AA559045C987D03814CB544738@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1yYUioGqkerx5TSEeNsx3NZsuPPwAAVLrg In-Reply-To: <501D522C.6040402@execulink.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 stator tube - nut. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the Nut is OK, and the tube is not compressed, just a new olive as they can wear out. $2 at TRF, have not looked at the local HW store to see if the sizes match, maybe someone else has? Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:48 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 stator tube - nut. Hello List: Getting slight weeping from the end of the stator tube on my '2 and I may have overtightened the nut in efforts to stop the leaking. Is this nut a 'specialty' item or can it be sourced from local hardware suppliers as a compression nut? Same question for the olives. Have seen the information on the olives for the hard gas lines in the 2/3s and wondering if the same holds for the stator olive. Thanks for any insight into this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 11:21:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F502D0A3F for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:21:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D2752D09FC for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.79] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:23:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.28] by tm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:23:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 17:23:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 824899.1808.bm@omp1028.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61651 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2012 17:23:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=UnhU/31k96Ks2kOpU1tZonHqGx9d3+tzPygultnR7oTseqbmPMAh3jgCGzx+nzyfywNEDL9fdg95NHqQsysyxgSvbILebOh6IqUXK/TKuOxBHRU4Smk1so8h3HUIyDedAObNRzbg5fXU2eS8gdbc9QMsPLAJmaONeIG2WOljqWM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1344101007; bh=B1Fz4vAIKNWOvG1cfQTBB7XaRIz3oI7ALcS/dmO38d4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:I have used the olive from my local hardware store and have not experienced a=:ny leakage or other issues with them. I don't recall the size off the top o=:f my head.; b=aVJx+UXRIP3anUCVERVnOm9EaCakK6lEYngekhg7TTZd5YgbIDt1jrlSkqkfoSP+IHh0xKQC2FuiVQMfxdTu0//TPMmLoe5ixkET++xCuIwIsfBUMqXxIZ7HChTp1qB87WhLIY9uouMEGzof4zcKf1hZYPQjxZ5kZiDx2OoP5QI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: UIl5t2MVM1lkdcDp6Gdit3oDG7_azip.usbDHBXxh1_dZMZ .XnWlNvb7Ze0sUjt8aLce5rYKaVcMAv9vVn_oOLcbiUY7c1w69JakqYNCsD0 iwTdCcaaE5dPt8h0n13rHdtvGO_AG6sjlJqi0i2oVk5twZjuXjAFhlSKsm9O .phXWMX1R9wN7x6LPVSYv.3I_jRyJapkrOi5Hc6GnsPSuoniM.MIlMhekJRX 9mf1CKenrKNQmJ44KMO7hisO5oOjYnjqXtQrRVzf1pHppC5X8pqb6DiQkqoA MpDTaR02yG5xgemHrh2RYD3BaaSUQ5cX7LygTKcTXfCl3gqWKfr7ej3hUXa_ PmvwSPtqdW5qzR5UJvfu._sEsdkWXly1mPLnpl6osKIF2SP50AzhzJkiNBDZ bSfAKVvAYWUOalYLpUTpS1vP_6smpsoBiREZsPBg_xM_9cQSP0Z_29qO7YlQ _FVFhI8b6glt..ZMhN7V64W9heYwmXZ0hSjc2ZHHKuqtfQIr9UARY5kt2PxW HXt_SkT3f9BwvFA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Riy1iQSswBDIMblz7yVQCjqTDymNZurmbjN.ImoJzw-- Received: from [192.168.1.20] (rgt2@69.228.117.12 with xymcookie) by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2012 10:23:27 -0700 PDT References: <501D522C.6040402@execulink.com> <05ED27AA559045C987D03814CB544738@bboffice> In-Reply-To: <05ED27AA559045C987D03814CB544738@bboffice> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <100DAB96-DCDA-475D-A3E0-E3648B2F6874@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: rod Trunnell Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:23:26 -0700 To: Wbeech Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 stator tube - nut. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have used the olive from my local hardware store and have not experienced any leakage or other issues with them. I don't recall the size off the top of my head. Rod Trunnell 62 TR3B. TCF1037l On Aug 4, 2012, at 10:05 AM, "Wbeech" wrote: > If the Nut is OK, and the tube is not compressed, just a new olive as they > can wear out. $2 at TRF, have not looked at the local HW store to see if > the sizes match, maybe someone else has? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:48 AM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] TR2/3 stator tube - nut. > > Hello List: > Getting slight weeping from the end of the stator tube on my '2 and I > may have overtightened the nut in efforts to stop the leaking. Is this > nut a 'specialty' item or can it be sourced from local hardware > suppliers as a compression nut? Same question for the olives. Have seen > the information on the olives for the hard gas lines in the 2/3s and > wondering if the same holds for the stator olive. > Thanks for any insight into this one. > Angelo Graham > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rgt2@sbcglobal.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 15:30:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C192D0A03 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:30:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 278C72D09EA for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:20:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:20:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:20:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 64852.42870.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74682 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2012 21:20:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344115246; bh=Fra/TwZ8pJdwHqIUGVtjHPlFGLCE3+mRKsr++0xUzNo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WPXq4NdgoHXoSbBmLsRFW2EAwmQY3q1pazO//C2W+IK74fYW3xp2RAN3Z8pi6j0PgSNLkxEzGWgYMVmdTkNZj0sfg4IApseBcmdZDmw/3OTlP/Zkd2W2c9av4jjEdcXBFO4xHV2TzGoBwbGXXk/8HpTwcUUuuD1GHatbOO49ZVQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XJS4iJTZL+hLOIOPtsw57Eef06vf+cuCKtu7S9qd/l5N899xgfyDU/ZcIDm6rwm2aP6HRDlwYnrFGMnvYjZYR244rIjax6Yaz+87MDRBhad/4os/KqXGkiz3MRxIGxUNHgF5vxwl8FxC4etcWdBC78nn2Yr1NbcR2I6oKLoAIkk=; X-YMail-OSG: PmiM2rwVM1kSfChBC1GEzB7fGSdZ1GHjyRSHSJ.jFvyI3eG x4LBRzAGd Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:20:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: Message-ID: <1344115246.73485.YahooMailNeo@web120206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Sean Friele , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net welcome Sean there is a pedal assembly on ebay right now current bid is 10.00 search on TR3 Frank ________________________________ From: Sean Friele To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 11:04 PM Subject: [TR] New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal Hi, I'm Sean. I inhereted a TR3A from my grandparants (original owners) and discovered a broken Clutch pedal. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell or can recomend a source I can get it from? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 16:01:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A702D09FE for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:01:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19032D09D6 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:53:18 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.227] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:53:18 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:53:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 21:53:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 735467.56509.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 40903 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2012 21:53:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=a5Fw62tw8tet/n1O4v9LjnWPXyv4EXBofdViW9ABMlLO5JbL/w+QDB1/c177fob4Rdh/54e9ZZEzl8U9zthh+YPAOOcGRFQSnsnwbXnFpCrFA5EVYsM2ftMz3gcHrlLNY/XnohVA3ddwupROAmgc+HPc8ha9LL3Nn7SgPbsrp98= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344117198; bh=0Wf7JwlT1XaXULkz3E/TzHpFP3h6xIbzpGCdSTmv+OA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=jE07cyxILtSQDXTR+NvoyHRLPke/nFMrK1BUQdgHAhd1b7tJORdPWqu368FtMiyCi2ULCv8DQhXvmkOImt5exNlPv0dYC1Hg7e+NB07NQdHct8DngQ39jwT8Ua2EIlBjLjUiJiUfqJUpMaDnPg9ODXSK/8JndjfmJkaP6U3eLkc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 7mL2fhYVM1mN7f.4BI9CMwExBCUtGtSyF_JHk0cGH4PRfQU cwmOsv_p.rzF59oWcMaIZzbyeQnJLWfiGP_.rCm_T64NSLd.xFAo52Nc.hP5 o9F.8vQiPcHyV.XChnHE7i_3ianQBcclYjbPXpWIP2AW3d.Y.bkEFqQTvjmH z1Rd84pWcjGcT.goVzkLL93JqoAS7H3YjjFxpax0SUK6OVZfxerRkv32hO6g Mexi4ZZhq83Xk7nDqzRhSo_Z8jjxn5ds3WrDo0_0XMiL1KWo4D7Nj5UqY2Az m.9OVBvsODJ7d_K6NJh5ZMIAbM8BDMjhMX3R_VSdAfBi3v12EdvVcp.Jy1cH kn4JJzRzMfUAo5uZInaHPF8tZRcJZ87dBYKnFWQvT6O8lIA3sja9dEES9GKW 7fRM6_CFzOp2OZTAHHhf6YszjwePyA9nE1RrT_CSSHb3BkFwFGihmsmwewPj CpRtSbfv1kjq4lIKUlyHCQQrNBF4r1wq0lH3B_fj_x_YGh.5cYUUConfL7cm MVYL7e926egU1hvwR1WUFdQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2012 14:53:18 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1yi3/1PeiSVa8bRs+VSQAgv1RfRw== Subject: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I know we are not supposed to split the calipers but they were really old and nasty on this TR3B, I had to scrape the rust and crud out of the groves along with the bits of rubber seals. The re-build kit does not include the O-Ring between the calipers, TRF does not sell them, guessing that Moss does not either as they are not listed. Does anyone have a source for these to little o-rings? Maybe Mc-Carr? Thanks, Bill B Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 16:17:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C7E2D0A17 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:17:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0396F2D09F0 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:09:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.191] by nm23.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:11:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.163] by tm4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:11:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:11:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 763238.81449.bm@omp1046.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45594 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2012 22:11:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=amKrCVmE8ewSxB2gskixYJqblgyqGmY395gsHs5RowVIk/psFZzW/gjHSt3161kBzq18Lwa6vs4VLrSDcOU4K5Vc7El8Oq5yNTv7w7DP2D/+5bBF++6zupqfBFKYEGNbbyDqkVCg3n7g8tXpVLzyXs76/yTxSElfF7o+bGdcGtA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1344118295; bh=PnP0p3VJxNLq99W+AimBDoOgcg0kY2aSrtLkb/WIP9c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=PXxcqQM6EenYdkZE+oRMlOcn33kql8nbCK+ZC0a5+Y1Lx81SlPkNox3moFvwjjA7hvlv1fPhzxThvLzDjt3pFEYzZyZl+HCtvupoJxCtiA2FddOkkR+7xC16w4CZm+xOQ6gkTLVBdVJH/pNR3WgaxxxuVRaaO//0YycUo1UUigg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: yykEohMVM1k5pI3zSTr7eHYSiFHjo_Jhmw3l0wrdyD1fr1i Bkp6f3PIo_5mLJmatjxUce4orH9rekx3X3I__Ug07jpunyKvLgYypFRTjzSA Uu4G.G86VwzKMxG9umEPgvcE2bgUSvbFOw3Fw6eAKiE9QBNVtw1fV0ReF1V6 3oGjenVPWxYJdg1BF5JSWgjnLhBad_SQQJ.nv7Lulsy.wYW9Jb6LfkDQl.7W ctysOGf2oxQnaeSO4IcL23ad1_VWaOYjsF_ks7g1sC7xXc9Fe3x61LCIPlfj WQ.ET0wJQy0QvQmlVmXL._Od1AyYJg7zQFqnwYYW.9HcBvPHgvupMNo4YNvM Lvf8tkCPqNwiKcs__uqKOdZ3UOr25KrJLy.8sfxc6xUFBR2CdloJOFWz0vJI l3JYN3souyfs49FQGdPte3UQPT3E7mJcs2LJG2Bk5yMuChH3HPPTSorGiXAC lqxDMGTgc_MV.2F_gK_847kmpGkcFMG.Tj6MqNiGGq_2Bp80pTp2v6skRbk0 t6gy8pplpZaOsTf4JHv.jrQdBSfSRRploz6HtXG.P9JPBgRDaF107JI5Gazi F0x5bp.CDYum2TRhnGNAtg5tRqmRu7Ry2cFQ0my1.KJg4SCdiZDci1gSOoHT JG4U3Y1BNP0ngdNw3pagIFtyY4A-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Riy1iQSswBDIMblz7yVQCjqTDymNZurmbjN.ImoJzw-- Received: from [192.168.1.20] (rgt2@69.228.117.12 with xymcookie) by smtp120-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2012 15:11:35 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <23972ADA-855E-4DFE-94A0-EB0DEED4EEB0@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: rod Trunnell Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:11:33 -0700 To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I see the seal is still listed by Moss, 61 583-821 $7.95 SEAL, between caliper halves caliper illus. "B" - TR3A from TS56337 (wire wheels), TS56384 (disc wheels), TR3B (TSF series), TR4 to CT4689 (wire wheel 2 I used this seal when I rebuilt my calipers and have not had any issues with it. Rod On Aug 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Wbeech" wrote: > OK, I know we are not supposed to split the calipers but they were really > old and nasty on this TR3B, I had to scrape the rust and crud out of the > groves along with the bits of rubber seals. > > The re-build kit does not include the O-Ring between the calipers, TRF does > not sell them, guessing that Moss does not either as they are not listed. > Does anyone have a source for these to little o-rings? Maybe Mc-Carr? > > Thanks, > Bill B > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 16:19:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7952D09F3 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:19:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E4C2D0652 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so2097882yhr.14 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q/1h2OXPZ6twSAcZi1FotifpQsAYcCDffQtJu1+pwrk=; b=QYsb4J5Q+oPK5KdW9ik4xF6Ox59S6eJbLHnP1w9zbUnwkMmwui5wuiEfX3sfiQlxzn sU4dunoaX1D0W5gdQRWri6fjIhfyHnuU2dCx32y6Mm/57ojhtm4JbYAk0Ueh1RnyP8vn ZhpItLq8B42GFrMEdUqWygDAYF47WPkKiG0sC9pAtiM/r7TmekNh355axJSZBlChBMU5 s3Y72rm9Qve8+1jk8gPHX+YMSRXosm7eRroEEJZzRkQjFiq0cx//TYTNX6X4PrVLx7J2 U5m3HgfLyFgHVxcWHgnGmx6lW1jO6IjjVbPZzaOzWyio4ux5nteGKt++LGr1cheINc1u fFYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.35.82 with SMTP id p18mr6220587icd.15.1344118922805; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.62.197 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:22:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:22:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This? http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/SearchResults.aspx?SearchText=583-820&WebCatalogID=0 G On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Wbeech wrote: > The re-build kit does not include the O-Ring between the calipers, TRF does > not sell them, guessing that Moss does not either as they are not listed. > Does anyone have a source for these to little o-rings? Maybe Mc-Carr? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 16:32:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19142D0A0C for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:32:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FA52D0973 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:24:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=51kJA3LnIFXtsgiTSocA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ysqQ2sS9hL0A:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E2/35-13948-EB1AD105; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:27:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Wbeech'" , References: Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 15:27:10 -0700 Message-ID: <147e01cd7290$4a2072b0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac1yi3/1PeiSVa8bRs+VSQAgv1RfRwAA8cnA Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Moss does have them listed. Either 583-821 or 583-820, depending on whether you have the first or second generation split calipers. (According to Moss, your TCF series would have the 2nd gen caliper and take 583-820.) IIRC the later seal is a standard size O-ring; while the earlier seal had a rectangular cross section. That may explain why the early seal is almost 3 times the price of the later one! -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 16:49:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9248E2D0A54 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:49:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BDC522D0995 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:42:26 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:41:26 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:41:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2012 22:41:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 637496.43198.bm@omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 14765 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2012 22:41:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=MaoWnNBPNLkOD/JQiHvsUBwwdoaOWA+0igBfU0RAYqG0dLZ0HPvnk7gKodsqwNkYj988+LGnVpsjN0c1kwEZpNvxmPiRC2FJ1RmBkfUeN3xwCNW1nHWU5aS4GWMuXU489N2QRbAWOLG7k6eKMZzFBDOb56LLcu4En0KmVkAJlpw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344120086; bh=xJaWaOrAtO8oV2ZLF6ed2ZW8T078iMDCEnZwz00GO2o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=Pf/mmQlvngE3peqbXCLcQ+qtdjauo5p/Jin4lLN9pbqEF+3nQNR/lh5myggaFH5EISdXp6POoeRuMz2HJGXUcc40KfMSLj5Ss8jFYogVcNPsY6jID+ImFCb2tha14462PnGvtxT4iyij+APeCcP2ezWKRiH4QOgLj35wsppabkk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0DsswrMVM1l9ReKccR08h52p6_.IYAuzpSCcgnaYnH.S8vA ZOss9tyobM2BuddQxfb3_SMMQaQxr_kiOvn4LFlNAJhs7HPITFjiUO7GoCAg Le6hlOoB.sD11sO68yTwPWHXM.qQViuADPhGqIhbjEneqijGHohlEbFtSb61 2BEnVblWowdRlzi3Q__fWDunYJZac1BsQP_wMrnnP7W7w83cIrEbxMAtHu_1 kE862hj_c8IDTYa46v5SVqiOso9YaiRCcCc0TATrc_kOIgdMtLUI8XfT8sR4 IT2bhQNCPycgYyUaue0oYlZDpGFn9_v.r9eDI4uleqEnD5exyuX2HoE4GcKQ nEvUQlR0lV2SOjP90XuLP8tfWGMBuZSDu_07AgdVzt9SNuXfqdifuudcBqYT oEX8JXs1RWj6f2vzKXO9FjC0msZKffJZLyNgKo6h8_BTRbLoPmWEGopsHdgK QIlZ__ZyiSVVr3PM5dCgLDVKdz6cpKW019w_jO_LQgiktoOhuqWn1NSCVTBg A_DbByrvOnyUBfNGEF1nSyKUitDuEPU0SlUpfDoJXd2Y0mC_Vd24VG4jT7u1 3u5k1FlN.x__pC1sKLdI_isWFKx4JiHyWmaYNbUxG2N4bRkG.tTjVGwNHFZH ow2_vHeG6BBxSH5yP7oK6 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2012 15:41:26 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'rod Trunnell'" References: <23972ADA-855E-4DFE-94A0-EB0DEED4EEB0@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 17:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1yji9p7HhqxjNwQqaj0kBRcx7moAAAjv6w In-Reply-To: <23972ADA-855E-4DFE-94A0-EB0DEED4EEB0@sbcglobal.net> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There it is, too late in the day I guess. Mine is a TCF so 583-820 is right for me. Many thanks! Bill Trunnell [mailto:rgt2@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:12 PM To: Wbeech Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring I see the seal is still listed by Moss, 61 583-821 $7.95 SEAL, between caliper halves caliper illus. "B" - TR3A from TS56337 (wire wheels), TS56384 (disc wheels), TR3B (TSF series), TR4 to CT4689 (wire wheel 2 I used this seal when I rebuilt my calipers and have not had any issues with it. Rod On Aug 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, "Wbeech" wrote: OK, I know we are not supposed to split the calipers but they were really old and nasty on this TR3B, I had to scrape the rust and crud out of the groves along with the bits of rubber seals. The re-build kit does not include the O-Ring between the calipers, TRF does not sell them, guessing that Moss does not either as they are not listed. Does anyone have a source for these to little o-rings? Maybe Mc-Carr? Thanks, Bill B Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 4 22:05:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C652D09C5 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 22:05:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3F02D0995 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 21:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2181752vcb.14 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:02:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wuF2VI9ytjdf3I1Jh3PX58gqmDiNHb4Osw5zYqv1JQc=; b=PbNRyk2Z6aXC33rdyKBbT24JS4gpDfepag/Je1Gel8ENccV3ijRz6fJN3mnYK2hzv9 OhfOCJQjiIJPhP6lAkz2kBc7PsTtO8w6ubqtj4y/chwxfJiy2VLJ3oP1C7s3EBqqxWCc Cu36TF80xC9qjpUnTTzVuDjI6oDmRCTuuzXIiuimt8pKaqU0Bo0hoKK9Dbwj3uUBtqWC 9+1vU9lvZaE1k5tjlA+PTJbpEs4Wn6h6Js5gnAPMszVh90Aa5c4Wwte9kNfWi1AKn33c +eWiGQhJ6No9ZWWJkB0AbKzfqMOWlCgI3RCeAubCba2vCivi8i0Jj8TF+ruB3KNKDHYv Cm2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.157.65 with SMTP id a1mr5047681vcx.39.1344139342451; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 21:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.132 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Aug 2012 21:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 00:02:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] quality synchros currently available? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings All: I suddenly need to source synchros for my early GT6 trans. I reused my old synchros last time around and set aside the new ones. Today I began to reassemble the trans w/ the unused synchros and they are junk ( I have no idea where I bought them 8 years ago)! The space between the gear and synchro is about 0.010 or less instead of the 0.040+ gap. For grins I chucked up one of these poorly made synchros in my lathe and removed about 0.030 stock from the flat surface. Now I have the suitable gap between gear & synchro but if the taper diameter was mis-machined, what else will give me problems? Are there any quality synchros currently available - and who sells them? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 06:57:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8402D09FE for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 06:57:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2512D09C0 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 06:55:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LIjkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=wwRb95W8huUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Ncn_RocuAAAA:8 a=3MFNzepsVhEAnV0YMqkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MigJ3SH6RFgA:10 a=rAypz-NlJmvrlcpB:21 a=z_YhPlevTWQ_lats:21 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:51427] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6E/B0-01685-5FD6E105; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 12:58:30 +0000 Message-ID: <48CBDABE7DA64D6D8EDA1C7466E12997@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "aribert neumann" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 07:58:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] quality synchros currently available? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Roadster Factory claims to check theirs, and that they are higher quality, if you have a late GT6 they are really cheap. http://trf.zeni.net/allsummerb/16.php?s_wt=1366&s_ht=768 As an aside when I rebuilt my tranny I used new synchro cups, I had trouble with 2nd gear, I ended up having a shop repair it, before I did that I took it apart myself and had looked at the 2nd gear synchro with a former BL mechanic and we agreed it was out of spec (after maybe 2500 miles). He suggested I use the best of what came off before the rebuild, suggesting that 4th gear synchros didn't see much wear. Anyway, that is what I had the (local, non specialist) tranny shop use in rebuilding the tranny, the guy thought I was crazy using the old part, apparently was not familiar with the sometimes poor quality of certain reproduction parts for old LBCs. Greg Lemon TR250 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 10:40:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193A62D09BB for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:40:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A072D09AF for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so5459004obh.14 for ; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6TzP/lVICbhJDuWDu2JqGx6t3BopmehbA44UM9dVvsA=; b=Ltbu3Nqz5rsy6xJnzKeSItbbbqUefQeSEHQbh9otrlauhfN9sXN8Oj/IIJ6jldsU23 CPLlRvhN5YEwY4yLtvhOh3DwXyc93OGwXEdPHhV5Cl8T/PKa1Ha3KgKGqBGAl+cRxiX0 HI8cWV4+ODCQ6rVEF+B4R1bNCGAGeN9ANnB+Nw3q6HI8fqfKhLXE0Et4/ROT4hs8zbnl /PZbEY4jg1Q223MP13oC1XoSLGuPVp1M5oeWrawTSFJTsOH67OPEL3EW94gCGMXnrOpx N1YmUKNgij6GnV6MwdjMFXd1lBbB4dCMiUWPgX11jOO82gdwo+8IFPQYntd8IYx8QiR0 7PhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.85.196 with SMTP id j4mr3280220igz.30.1344184128701; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 09:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.56.3 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.56.3 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:28:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:28:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" To: aribert neumann X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] quality synchros currently available? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net .moss has nice and expensive ones. On Aug 4, 2012 9:08 PM, "aribert neumann" wrote: > Greetings All: > > > > I suddenly need to source synchros for my early GT6 trans. I reused my old > synchros last time around and set aside the new ones. Today I began to > reassemble the trans w/ the unused synchros and they are junk ( I have no > idea where I bought them 8 years ago)! The space between the gear and > synchro is about 0.010 or less instead of the 0.040+ gap. For grins > I chucked up one of these poorly made synchros in my lathe and removed > about 0.030 stock from the flat surface. Now I have the suitable gap > between gear & synchro but if the taper diameter was mis-machined, what > else will give me problems? Are there any quality synchros currently > available - and who sells them? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triosan@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 13:51:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA302D09A9 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:51:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54592D099A for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:23:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j2i61j0061ZMdJ4AC7SWul; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:26:30 +0000 Received: from RickPC ([50.135.250.226]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id j7SR1j0084tpx3m8c7SVdY; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:26:29 +0000 From: "Rick" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:26:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1zQDRnA5TNLS9WQG+wKcTgp9W1cg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/related by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Subject: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The prohibition on splitting the calipers is a persistent piece of Triumph folklore. Like any soft part, the seal is overdue for replacement after 50 years of service. Use care to keep the parts clean during reassembly. Torque the 3/8" bolt to 45 ft-lbs and the 7/16" bolt to 75 ft-lbs. You'll need a big vise to hold the caliper for this operation. 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Thanks to several who responded with torque data. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:26 PM To: 'Triumphs' Subject: [TR] Caliper O-Ring The prohibition on splitting the calipers is a persistent piece of Triumph folklore. Like any soft part, the seal is overdue for replacement after 50 years of service. Use care to keep the parts clean during reassembly. Torque the 3/8" bolt to 45 ft-lbs and the 7/16" bolt to 75 ft-lbs. You'll need a big vise to hold the caliper for this operation. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image003.gif] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 15:24:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBEC2D09CE for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:24:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87F52D09A4 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:03:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Vb91zSV9 c=1 sm=0 a=Vs2vUJPUPhhbZJFie+iqhw==:17 a=NU5nruglRTsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8OBG9TGFyMg98Lg-swA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hPyDMoIffyH799krlHQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Vs2vUJPUPhhbZJFie+iqhw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.95.31.112 Received: from [76.95.31.112] ([76.95.31.112:4220] helo=paulal73q2sjay) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CF/31-17584-C20EE105; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:05:48 +0000 Message-ID: <2AEE1F5B5F824D6995EF38D3410B7F7D@paulal73q2sjay> From: "Paul Willoughby" To: Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:05:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4 Brakes Stuck X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I went to my storage garage to start the '64 TR4 and drive it around the block, first time in 6 months. The front brakes were stuck. I managed to rev the engine enough to get the car rolling and then drive around the block, but the brakes never really loosened up that much. They stopped fine and the pedal pressure felt fine. Checking my records, I rebuilt the master cylinder in 2002 - 5,000 miles ago. I switched to silicon fluid in 2006 - 1,000 miles ago. I don't think I've replaced the brake hoses and I've never touched the calipers. The brakes pads have always rubbed a little. What I mean is that if the car was stopped on a slight incline, it would not roll if I took my foot off the pedal. Time to rebuild the calipers? Is it safe to drive the car 5 miles home to my workshop? paulw, Torrance, CA 1964 TR4 1956 TR3 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 16:57:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80A22D0A54 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:57:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F7072D099A for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2012 22:41:23 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2012 22:41:23 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2012 22:41:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2012 22:41:22 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 935475.98026.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16427 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2012 22:41:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1344206482; bh=UMzT/Mla9Utb9jsgyFtNpcZREdGSi7ivPdU2d2E/3Qk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ex1ooJntCB0KlzHwrxOeMlsnR06txu2WmJ9NxOhKkLOoUjSozM3QW2QcQgyfGwGpoj937jEcuijHJv8PPtjE7IwCXbQGF5GBPfPbp17WSjEMacK21ZHYcuBFCgtP8CQj6ncspaCtvfzke0+6pUkJ9K06LR8oV8GY7c5sNghJD5k= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KomDNIet/avbVS3UvDLXZJKvhWl+XPtlnyq8kaeka6dFyfF6y2Oroap2SlJk7pZswXbfo19uU23Q8Nlwwq/jRKKVtMOU4dgQodnQIMiBC7CfnbKlkyJh5v1IIYyWZO7V0v0r6+si8JgFcEhzT8/Rz+8P+iuyLb4iefCa04PWVMA=; X-YMail-OSG: 5pg9EogVM1nY4OCvz1KijTFitNW0pARxLYXhCPO9ZfZZiuG nBqGqpl0fNOCBf0kZv_iNLYbCBKlPMeHAtwZF4jMrn76_wBRQ.N7FWYoOuYO h_KIsQbWwGiHF0WrUOZXqwKCYta3tfTKnkBdOJsf8bzmm6T4NhSeUXjVlwgL lcnViMXd6Az38hv9IxShcX0hwiGP9wQliZunXaTYLKhftd23RKurq4Cpy3bB zGsvimu.mtU1LsTgNHc2IKVEpOYnC0AcSvcRI3s3urAqsbz581xHQbhsMuFQ 0YJ9VH6CzqJZQxG5Rr6b2m5AYGXqWckXDT2bL8xpGuL2SkkwRvJFR2L2OqeC pQXqV06746B2mViaz4rsV_NSeXP5mNLW8IbBh2NeDdKduuIB84aoHUz53gKl GDuRHAdRmZ9BhFH4bcU.Hy9ah5ckHgHqTI6neE3dCmZOvyk9jv9CAnGiz5YX ihQ-- Received: from [107.198.189.201] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344206482.12087.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: "SeanFriele@friele.us" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Lessons Learned - Was New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I see someone already responded that there are 3 pedal assemblies for sale on Ebay. I let my daughter drive my TR3 a while back. She was trying to return the seat to the proper position for me (all the way back!). She was pushing against the clutch pedal as hard as she could and broke it off. Luckily, I had a spare. I'll be TIG welding up my old one as as a spare. I just wanted to post something so list members would know so they could keep there eyes peeled in case someone else tries to do this in their TR3. I guess that means that I should lube my seats rails as well. I don't have trouble sliding the seats, but others do. Bill in Tehachapi Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:04:14 -0700 From: Sean Friele To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] New Member Introduction and Need Clutch Pedal Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm Sean. I inhereted a TR3A from my grandparants (original owners) and discovered a broken Clutch pedal. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell or can recomend a source I can get it from? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 17:50:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94E82D0A6C for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:50:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17552D0A0F for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:27:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vwG-E4UXAAAA:20 a=Rmu7Y7Y3xI3tmwu0PigA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FE/3E-29356-2020F105; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:30:11 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <23BE876556314469AA0093FF06E81B3C@bboffice> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 16:30:11 -0700 Message-ID: <152401cd7362$421ba670$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <23BE876556314469AA0093FF06E81B3C@bboffice> Thread-Index: Ac1zQDRnA5TNLS9WQG+wKcTgp9W1cgABk0dAAAbPVSA= Subject: Re: [TR] Caliper O-Ring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > My feeling is that if they are not to be split they would either be > permanently assembled Nothing is "permanently assembled" if you apply enough force! The advice to never disassemble Girling calipers originally came directly from Girling. I have seen the service note. > or made as a single unit like on TS30766 with the crossover pipe. So, did you also remove the big plug in the side of those calipers? Your theory appears to be that if it has threads, it's meant to be removed ... -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 5 20:49:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9AB2D0A4E for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:49:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219032D096C for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:20:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W137 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:23:03 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:23:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2012 02:23:03.0785 (UTC) FILETIME=[685EA590:01CD737A] Subject: [TR] TRF S.P. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just got back from this years TRF Summer Party. If you stayed home you missed a good one! Cant wait to do it again next year. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 6 03:35:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4217D2D0914 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 03:35:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A2E982D08B9 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 03:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 09:31:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.165] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 09:31:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 09:31:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 327355.33557.bm@omp1066.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26237 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2012 09:31:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344245508; bh=vI4xKOC0fijH6K9IKwG2yNodfWqVHNr4r+rmE+cjfsc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lh8z+rVfLtQMZJumLn4JyILVQQNbEUQgeCwI9n7QzPK/JixvorA6fh5DhNJ5aYY/k+in9TD/EGw8dX1YS2cvpKgcC3xn3REXHuuZp5SYRYBNBh7JrGO15to8ebznZUQI+mwzC/G3WmCBxVGFrfkVrOJCCcxqDtnjyaEBP3sE42U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sCkBq6qhbTdy+9A2y6gyZ/HQmgF/F3gPt3yrF2/PEQq2w/Rt+TcQb+ZkNaWcdqRnOnz9WLJd0nsixxtx83LIrpSv5kJiUSkMMjlwyVwR0smrD7QwmMteKqcRM/UuGu8R/48xMqA2mn/7HStDvJTEfjQBbyKonGjUJ0/R6hf321U=; X-YMail-OSG: J1wgv5UVM1nA1Fog0ijyLPGsuU2dcFOq64bLZRnVTU5nCeV 4ipde9PV6yHZNigWgK5sT1svkC7NOGKzOb_DN9Iq9vJMLtAqb3s4Da6gSWto BAuUCreCMcKi4tvmBxAlMfkaxv0NLrXV7Ht1XJ_avEcrmOeff5zVul_Oz5zs j2umyAOCvye0mo4W.TDDGktAbBxw4s_BAUffTnJ9o8YnzbLkXOAWL8FTfuCw _VfaxZt5_4BiJBSF3MF59HZaQ0mgUgW5YfTOur7e.uhOtayfB2eK2HSDfFFJ UEpRDqMZW2g_5L4Ox4GzZfjVoluJb03RUljcVxkMzhHxRNlTflJdUm6sJh3T LCSq7wudCm3GkviAPe8vslnXPYFNUmF0VFTb0vwmIL3qlyLa9aOyny7FEYmN 8prxiCPbO1vgV.wSe7tYKUopHPUxzvDGCoZSyNRAb9yx1saIB1crwtQkatO2 G0v.lDukcI.DyTpRz9RemQb4_kFAxs604orpBkpZFLVFqz3QioycRo7xwdae h8mjZB1rxuYQMa2rygwQrOsZpBTNCTZPRYZXH8g1oZYLw3Q272NVkvCmyYTQ wCfPmWQ74sihW4PHHytZMG6Nomutq_1wyLLKCK_hv.oG0wpFUatfnQXoGNQ- - Received: from [74.110.19.237] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:31:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344245508.99577.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 02:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "aribertn@gmail.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] (no subject) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Aribert Neumann & list! I would be VERY leery of purchasing the synchros listed by TRF's for TR4A & TR6's. The reason is that, it was posted many years ago, on this list, that the TR4A & TR6 synchros where slightly different. You may be lucky that these do work in your tranny, or not, but that's a chance you'll have to take AFTER you try out the rebuilt TR6 tranny. Now, if it works, GREAT! BUT!, If it doesn't, then you'll have to redo everything with the right synchros. I'll check in my "Cosmo TR4/A E-mail Repair manual" to see if it is there as a reference, or you can check yourself if you go to: http://tinyurl.com/6c647jh It would most likely be under Gearbox\Standard. Now the TR4A synchros came out before the TR6's were even made. The TR6 trannys are 'SO POST TO BE" the same trannys, but the TR6's did make changes through the many years of production. '72 to '73 was the biggest amounts of changes. So may be the synchros that are different for the TR6's where never separated, or someone thought that because the TR4A & TR6 trannys were the same, then so would be the Synchros? But may be TRF made a correction since then? ----------- Relating to : Message: 8 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 07:58:36 -0500 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "aribert neumann" , Subject: Re: [TR] quality synchros currently available? The Roadster Factory claims to check theirs, and that they are higher quality, if you have a late GT6 they are really cheap. http://trf.zeni.net/allsummerb/16.php?s_wt=1366&s_ht=768 As an aside when I rebuilt my tranny I used new synchro cups, I had trouble with 2nd gear, I ended up having a shop repair it, before I did that I took it apart myself and had looked at the 2nd gear synchro with a former BL mechanic and we agreed it was out of spec (after maybe 2500 miles). He suggested I use the best of what came off before the rebuild, suggesting that 4th gear synchros didn't see much wear. Anyway, that is what I had the (local, non specialist) tranny shop use in rebuilding the tranny, the guy thought I was crazy using the old part, apparently was not familiar with the sometimes poor quality of certain reproduction parts for old LBCs. Greg Lemon TR250 -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 6 08:06:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E352D06E0 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:06:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from xsmtp10.mail2web.com (xsmtp30.mail2web.com [168.144.250.249]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9842D0914; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.5.41.5] (helo=M2W105.mail2web.com) by xsmtp10.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SyNdL-0002rk-F1; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:46:16 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2201281613471338@M2W105.mail2web.com> X-Originating-IP: 68-7-19-9 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "v6spitfireguy@cox.net" To: spitfires@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:47:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Triumphess info... X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: v6spitfireguy@cox.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, Is any body else slightly frustrated with the Triumphest registration website or is it just me? I am trying to get information about the dinner choice; (steak or chicken..) is all that is indicated. My better half needs more information than just the type of meat! She wants to know what the actual dinner or menu meal is to make a choice, you know Whole Chicken, Boneless Breast, Top Sirloin, Prime rib, etc.  Maybe Im too old or impatient to search the website for that info, but I didnt see it when I looked. Give me the old fashioned pdf or form,(Im driving a 40 year old car after all), and descriptions of what the heck is going on  Ill be going, but I would like to register, but I cant finish it till the wife can make her decision Anybody here got the info or knows where I can get it?? Barry Schwartz, frustrated in San Diego... -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 6 08:51:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A402D0811 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:51:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.159]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 48D392D08F9 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 14:28:56 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 14:28:56 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 14:28:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Aug 2012 14:28:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 537203.62503.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62834 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2012 14:28:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=3hjJthps4F4k20pEmN398o7WrwmJkH8408zySgBHyra06r4BD/l+CODUa2P9Mre+UApqLIVWshqNNnaT4Ql+oPNQypoy6RWVfWRhwqkOojoT3NeMTgr4sB9pWpDxqadmSEFnjrMz96dgDt0IkFGe5BhYvw5FbMFCrvdPdPCfJjw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344263336; bh=KWrmNzYOVt7FKYUaa/UV+wbdS1RjFH79Z6FhN76eV4A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=VtlZNrdhpLInUoci+TQGQRe961rfY7kJjNq/dgfY81acUY6IUkw9ofqFKo5m9Hp0hAogxRpk/YwEUnHZNhcd/z291Y3tOn/WE6XLjD3iNOf/HEpHu//UKWmsUYOVrKgiFTM4JAjpyPZlNEuzWV5ngmm/IGBZHAMvS/QhCupDSqs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: US6SRmcVM1lP6WUzNAzUIG.vQLtQf8Ho_oVyTwoZmIvpddO Uv0Pc52in.4Huv_2i3YQZR54KYHLqpcHQGMPrEXKqJdXNgVgRqrcmPy7wZSo YDfyl.FQX8bhFp5CdbJCnYE.PPu3JpeWZhD5Wj3yr8.gEIlju12Vk_5vm8.A RIHf4keYZZwxbCZVcmCjgFE85fpA81rsbWNaIHWRVicuZ36aQe70Gmv2uSNu IlccgOfhOLqLEyFCYz4FQco1XqjPTnsKDpH3EGbclJEcvc9XcN4SSEu6f19y DrFiFt8vMzM5cvdrbyOBNY0fZ3KDM.2g1avYt7f1780H85YeaS3ACH1EgOb8 NScSjYMVR99qXuupDfxX3V5pFswnH8bTJg0E9eQIwhmRBsHTBvkd21jNw8bm P91QwTUIKpruOLygnWJWo7EToKYTynkcR5qhsqvbXfMCbvazUzWuLy70MKIu U2GgDU.omwzDA29c3ILAwgYw7vKuym5qlEUrBzqeeCTfQgl6GwPxN7Z03Q2R LTAjuPnvtWGq.b9oIqHUI9C9ttpzmO4s.hwDyuupbf8TUCd2qZCs7gsnCfiU 8E8im0AxIxiF8xeOb X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Aug 2012 07:28:56 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <380-2201281613471338@M2W105.mail2web.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <2C2A1BE4315742D2902F511C286B5DBE@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <380-2201281613471338@M2W105.mail2web.com> Thread-Index: Ac1z3RFesi5sR35nQLi5doD0HlibzAAAjiAg Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphess info... X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't tried that yet, but I am driving a 50 year car so I would just pick up the telephone and call the hotel. Ask for the Catering department and I would bet you they can answer all her questions if the menu has been set. Good luck, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of v6spitfireguy@cox.net Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:47 AM To: spitfires@autox.team.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Triumphess info... Listers, Is any body else slightly frustrated with the Triumphest registration website or is it just me? I am trying to get information about the dinner choice; (steak or chicken..) is all that is indicated. My better half needs more information than just the type of meat! She wants to know what the actual dinner or menu meal is to make a choice, you know Whole Chicken, Boneless Breast, Top Sirloin, Prime rib, etc.  Maybe Im too old or impatient to search the website for that info, but I didnt see it when I looked. Give me the old fashioned pdf or form,(Im driving a 40 year old car after all), and descriptions of what the heck is going on  Ill be going, but I would like to register, but I cant finish it till the wife can make her decision Anybody here got the info or knows where I can get it?? Barry Schwartz, frustrated in San Diego... -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 6 11:28:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7E72D0913 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:28:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D222D088B for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:06:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jT611j00L0S2fkCACV8nsP; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:08:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.9] ([67.187.140.79]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jV8l1j00t1iyodP8VV8miy; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:08:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: William Pugh In-Reply-To: <1344245508.99577.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:08:45 -0700 Message-Id: <50AC1F08-DF53-44D8-A855-9BAC06EBF2AF@comcast.net> References: <1344245508.99577.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Cosmo Kramer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "aribertn@gmail.com" Subject: [TR] Synchros X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For what is it worth, I know, not much. Bad Syncros were the Main reason Herman stopped doing Trannies, and started inventing his conversion kit b& On Aug 6, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Cosmo Kramer wrote: > Hi Aribert Neumann & list! > I would be VERY leery of purchasing the synchros > listed by TRF's for TR4A & TR6's. The reason is that, it was posted many > years ago, on this list, that the TR4A & TR6 synchros where slightly > different. You may be lucky that these do work in your tranny, or not, but > that's a chance you'll have to take AFTER you try out the rebuilt TR6 tranny. > Now, if it works, GREAT! BUT!, If it doesn't, then you'll have to redo > everything with the right synchros. I'll check in my "Cosmo TR4/A E-mail > Repair manual" to see if it is there as a reference, or you can check yourself > if you go to: > http://tinyurl.com/6c647jh > > It would most likely be under > Gearbox\Standard. > > Now the TR4A synchros came out before the TR6's were even > made. The TR6 trannys are 'SO POST TO BE" the same trannys, but the TR6's did > make changes through the many years of production. '72 to '73 was the biggest > amounts of changes. So may be the synchros that are different for the TR6's > where never separated, or someone thought that because the TR4A & TR6 trannys > were the same, then so would be the Synchros? > > But may be TRF made a > correction since then? > ----------- > Relating to : > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 5 > Aug 2012 07:58:36 -0500 > From: "Greg Lemon" > To: "aribert > neumann" , > Subject: Re: [TR] > quality synchros currently available? > > The Roadster Factory claims to check > theirs, and that they are higher > quality, if you have a late GT6 they are > really cheap. > > http://trf.zeni.net/allsummerb/16.php?s_wt=1366&s_ht=768 > > As an > aside when I rebuilt my tranny I used new synchro cups, I had trouble > with > 2nd gear, I ended up having a shop repair it, before I did that I took > it > apart myself and had looked at the 2nd gear synchro with a former BL > mechanic > and we agreed it was out of spec (after maybe 2500 miles). He > suggested I use > the best of what came off before the rebuild, suggesting > that 4th gear > synchros didn't see much wear. > > Anyway, that is what I had the (local, non > specialist) tranny shop use in > rebuilding the tranny, the guy thought I was > crazy using the old part, > apparently was not familiar with the sometimes poor > quality of certain > reproduction parts for old LBCs. > > Greg Lemon > TR250 > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 6 12:43:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B412D0892 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:43:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358852D083C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=LMtlxleO7Z0NbkxWlI4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:27389] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 61/FB-13948-3CB00205; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:24:03 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <1344245508.99577.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <50AC1F08-DF53-44D8-A855-9BAC06EBF2AF@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <50AC1F08-DF53-44D8-A855-9BAC06EBF2AF@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:24:00 -0700 Message-ID: <004801cd7400$a6be6510$f43b2f30$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1z+U0HXdm9S1jdTA6PvaaKreyo8wABbYNQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Synchros X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > For what is it worth, I know, not much. Bad Syncros were the Main > reason > Herman stopped doing Trannies, and started inventing his conversion kit > b& Just to add what little I know: There was a largish run made of TR2-6 synchro rings that did not always work properly. Lots of theories as to why they frequently didn't work, but I don't recall there ever being a consensus on what, exactly, was the problem with them. I don't know who had them made, but all of the usual suspects were apparently selling rings from the same batch. When Herman did a gearbox for me, he insisted that I find some NOS synchro rings for him to use. But, that was a long time ago. Since then, a new run was made (commissioned by TRF I believe, although it may have been a joint project among several suppliers) and from what I've heard, the new rings work well. I used several of them in the last Stag gearbox I put together, and they worked great for me. But none of this really applies to the original question, as he was asking about GT6 synchro rings and they do not interchange with the TR2-6 (and Stag, etc) rings. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 09:51:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391212D0749 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:51:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D2C2D073E for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:45:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id tsHAPkKj0I0AIMHz for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 08:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:48:30 -0700 From: Pete Arakelian To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:48:29 -0700 Thread-Topic: TR250/6 t/o bearing sleeve Thread-Index: Ac10tBddDj3P2DjJSF+AkLwprVHrdw== Message-ID: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86F7FD37B7@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at dataresolution.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR250/6 t/o bearing sleeve X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The clutch release bearing rides on a sleeve that has a roll pin in it to stop the sleeve from rotating when the pin hits the pins in the clutch fork. Current sleeves I have looked at have a hole drilled for the roll pin, but there is no corresponding dimple or hole on the other side of the slot to engage the pin. Does anyone see this as a problem? Should there be a dimple or hole across the slot for additional strength? Or is it simply not required? I need to know pretty quick and am on digest so could you please respond to m direct as well? Thanks, Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 10:53:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D0A2D078F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:53:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D002D0721 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:46:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W125 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:49:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.62.204.114] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:49:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2012 16:49:10.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[914BCCB0:01CD74BC] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TRF's Uncle Dave X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody heard any updates on Uncle Dave? Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 11:24:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717B52D079F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:24:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035BE2D0721 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-5532.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.69.157] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SynYl-0002xe-EK; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:27:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:27:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 at 22:23:02, trmarty@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Just got back from this years TRF Summer Party. If you stayed home you missed > a good one! Cant wait to do it again next year. Right you are. We just got home this afternoon. What a great drive, what great events, what great social times! Marty, thanks for setting up the poster for us to have a chance to send our best wishes to Bob Harris. Hope he is better soon. Keith R. Stewart 75 Camden Road London, Ontario N5X 2K2 Home: (519) 660-1916 E-Mail: keithstewart@execulink.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 11:25:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90E92D0457 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:25:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F9F2D077D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-5532.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.69.157] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SynZB-0002xe-0V; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:27:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:27:37 -0400 Message-Id: <550B5419-3799-4CF7-81E9-F3BD9CB95B67@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: edjbaumgartner@gmail.com, John Swauger , SOThornton@aol.com Subject: Re: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 at 13:42, Steve Thornton wrote: > > > > Who is going to Pennsylvania this weekend for the Summer Party? > > Toga, toga, toga,.... > Al ready here. Yesterday afternoon, I noticed the first few campers were already on the field and a motorhome was just pulling in. Drive-in movie tonight. :-) Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 11:25:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B9B2D0726 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:25:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7029C2D0770 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:25:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-5532.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.69.157] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SynZF-0002xe-QN; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:27:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:27:42 -0400 Message-Id: <2FC52A89-B037-4F5F-835B-DB19E17856A0@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: edjbaumgartner@gmail.com, John Swauger , SOThornton@aol.com Subject: Re: [TR] TRF's Summer Party X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 at 13:42, Steve Thornton wrote: > > > > Who is going to Pennsylvania this weekend for the Summer Party? > > Toga, toga, toga,.... > Al ready here. Yesterday afternoon, I noticed the first few campers were already on the field and a motorhome was just pulling in. Drive-in movie tonight. :-) Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 11:41:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098ED2D07A9 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:41:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF132D0700 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 229-176.speede.golden.net ([216.59.229.176] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SynoC-0007Tm-7c for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:43:08 -0400 Message-ID: <502153AE.6060908@execulink.com> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:43:10 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 overdrive relay. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Trying to sort out my overdrive circuits and suspicious about the o/d relay. It is the original Lucas item - only 57 years old. Can you substitute a generic 30 amp four connector relay for the o/d relay? Would like to pick one up at my local flaps; having modern push on connectors would help matters as well as I wouldn't have to modify the harness. Any advice on this one? Thanks in advance. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 12:17:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A262D0799 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:17:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE1E2D0726 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170134pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M8E00H18D5IG8SI@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 63.239.65.11 ([63.239.65.11]) by vznit170134 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:10:30 -0500 (CDT) From: ptegler@verizon.net To: arakelianp@mossmotors.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <683618.1929509.1344363030309.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [63.239.65.11] Subject: Re: [TR] TR250/6 t/o bearing sleeve X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net AS far as I've ever understood it, the pin is simply to stop the whole carrier from spinning right along with the throw out bearing while under load. The bearing is designed to be the 'rotating' load point, not the fingers holding the carrier. ...personally, I add pins (or dent ) when I find none in existence on units I've dug into. Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com On 08/07/12, Pete Arakelian wrote: The clutch release bearing rides on a sleeve that has a roll pin in it to stop the sleeve from rotating when the pin hits the pins in the clutch fork. Current sleeves I have looked at have a hole drilled for the roll pin, but there is no corresponding dimple or hole on the other side of the slot to engage the pin. Does anyone see this as a problem? Should there be a dimple or hole across the slot for additional strength? Or is it simply not required? I need to know pretty quick and am on digest so could you please respond to m direct as well? Thanks, Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 12:18:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300F2D07AE for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:18:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD62D06CE for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=dnBuv9Ezk_0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=q3Xy1iDFAAAA:20 a=7VMHG8l6ldMGN5eiTkkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ztZTWvPtC2sA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:28134] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id EE/60-13948-0EB51205; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:18:09 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <502153AE.6060908@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <502153AE.6060908@execulink.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:18:07 -0700 Message-ID: <01ad01cd74c8$fefe6ae0$fcfb40a0$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac10xD7S2nqNpmfnQaiiO4rod/82qgAAxHtw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 overdrive relay. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Can you substitute a generic 30 amp four connector relay for the o/d > relay? My experience was that the generic relays (and purpose-made reproductions) would not last long in service, presumably due to the inductive kickback from the OD solenoid. However, adding a snubber diode seemed to solve the problem permanently, and I have been using the same cheap generic relay for many years now with no further problems. Here is an old photo of the relay and diode on my previous TR3A before it got wrecked. The original wiring was later updated, but I am still using that relay and diode today. (The diode is inside the black heat shrink tubing that you can see leading under the relay and over to the mounting screw.) http://goo.gl/HDHjb The diode goes from the output of the relay (to the solenoid) to ground. If your car has been converted to negative ground, the stripe on the diode goes towards the relay terminal. If you are still running positive ground, the stripe goes towards ground. I also added an in-line fuse to the power feed from the ammeter. In addition to protecting the solenoid if the cutout contacts don't open for whatever reason, it will also protect the wires if the battery is connected backwards (causing the diode to conduct) or the diode fails shorted. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 12:45:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636F02D0766 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:45:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA91C2D06B4 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q77IhUfE032326 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:43:30 -0400 Received: from core-mrc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mrc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.185.77]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 59A1BE00008A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:43:30 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: gdewine@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-STANDARD Received: from 99.74.40.111 by webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.30) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:43:30 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [99.74.40.111] Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:43:30 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344365010; bh=Q/FA8PxRYoQLOljrc+2RVVxEZZafxWJXel/K5WxB1fQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M3sHbluOd/yBLtdDJyytexGx2c+UFWr+xrDvbZKfCmz2Qy0rbgv1Azk7MndN+S68V FDhcXl2rcMUyANb+gOBJqu4m8o3QH497/fB499p3Hc3iM6SmGykfaOxQymftIudUMH SFLSWnM8XOKKjvSBLyfoed+Wfscknfp/OaHoujk4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:374551200:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7502161d2184b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood of my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini Quik-Latch go to http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-Quick-Latch-Polished-A luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive fastener.....I am open to suggestions... Gary 1961 Tr3 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 13:33:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DCD2D079B for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:33:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com (mail-yx0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF12D06E2 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yenr5 with SMTP id r5so4960412yen.14 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PsiPMsX2G9OY9REWrikGju+EjpAajJ7Zy+LEjQWU4eY=; b=iG4gY3/3gE4TIgW5FiMlBWJRa7E7LcDWthUeGmvt9RLTCcR/S5u2x6put68tu5dmSh KIPzrLir1WS5P+Wf3l5A++3WN1eu33OXK0CB5+XFuVfsAKi7sazIW800MBcYlxdVqLwN J7Hda54Rfx6YY1uX3H5OZx3/xAr7r2O+2foAZ3SRWcmwxI2WB6a5HHsLIFZYfgO46X4F /HayKudc+eclnmBo0EEiCLRTieui8vTjshKtD2LgVUFrgIjdVXQGnhmSe4SaNG2eIpqx 5DPtL7tEqIZ9lja1kFcidPzhGZce5i7/Er/zSJ+U73ncmbGG0+1mQXeIGHfdBklNk74F L+Lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.11.165 with SMTP id r5mr9895396igb.27.1344368119930; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.62.197 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: gdewine@aol.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:43 AM, wrote: > I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive fastener.....I > am > open to suggestions... > In my opinion -- that is a perfect description of the Dzus fasteners. I've certainly never had one come loose, get stuck or give me any trouble. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 14:04:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0A2D0743 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FE622D06F4 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 20:07:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.232] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 20:07:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2012 20:07:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 799391.28954.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 596 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2012 20:07:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344370028; bh=fLWjrjHS3or7Q7cQnWbzro6LEtiXic/BV+i0NmiOm04=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kKPYVTGTBek+q6tj+b1RQlGR3I8sZzJGaX3tZgmKXru7vUQght7rMr6tpcR8z3xk3TaJ6b4Odyb1fb9ijfxuDmZFmRj8p9q1OuMDXQFBMyhJEWnzuxPuDtpxxsCzAnaA4CMGHm1OsrMGqtVkSyEwOq5KB+TVe+LNW/iBMDOb1Us= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z7xoMFcDU+Nsu8U/wxX8dOOvELat3u30g6VkkJj3loRFQM5JWdNaYOHWfISKvsC1DfWI9DW84Clkh9MdAQZC6KUpklXLjQ2zguDct5x0Nw41bFjrwVuNP9b3wUcuBKTtW5zeOrtGoFOwZmH2qQPYlT6fxWvmX2k1GwJAMULQfZ4=; X-YMail-OSG: g4XxdoAVM1nC3IxGDYuB0rO3qrcdq1cLv.a.kqzZb_DnBvg k4pt9Iktha1aFYOzsjcCRNmPp1mCyagNpxP7AMuWNtCCHw0zmMzyXiUizoqj 2eAsI9MEgGPrJ6ytUD85IFIleqSFodVip8pRgjsefr.gaH858XFZ61PShoZH 9z4w5RJbVsMuQkM9hvcNtmk4di6xyvCKWSUB0fzeK.v4dTb3vqoxwXqw0c9G SsAW629yAGalB8kxAAWVJBdjegR9EpKbYiKrI.gzjxjZBh9aFpOOeWHTcBCI 1_QaLWCuTZ6JKrSzeMmAKx4y_rZSn.r73jjvhEnFs75_xM2UAuuR7arGBTgm YqgsoZ6lzjmXawVYToYRJ4OC9YPsIf_P8XzIFbGQJkQ0yTRhTsbP7j0F7CG4 i62NgIdZnjy5PnL9KHrOBsJjHMEm164dPVFk_b_L95fB7yeNJjRD6aGmfPKH Gcur2Q6YhgnNx8cfvV2fKXGrPMSh8Z2kI40t4jPZ4yQhpx6KohQX0X.Z9x94 vjzvyK9_J53QcPOyb4JWmmIX6dkRA1ZfSkX.i2iOEEq8MMZ9tOWsX4TqRCaO PhVLRwkN97Bc_H1TwBgthUABWjSYQDihkbRQuov6M7BjVjjm8plCriiSYoC0 N0saFHZOAsgh_rtsn_Gf2MZ2F0n91KDmWmpfIZGE- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:07:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1344370028.95433.YahooMailNeo@web120204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:07:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "gdewine@aol.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net my dzus work great. a lot smaller than the ones you linked. in fact the ones you linked will not fit down in the valley of the hood as easily as the dzus. its all personal taste after that Frank ________________________________ From: "gdewine@aol.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 11:43 AM Subject: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood of my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini Quik-Latch go to http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-Quick-Latch-Polished-A luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive fastener.....I am open to suggestions... Gary 1961 Tr3 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 14:05:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090092D07C0 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:05:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtpout004.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout004.mac.com [17.158.232.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819892D0788 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:46 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-67-187-54-83.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [67.187.54.83]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M8E00I8SIK5ZC20@nk11p03mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:07:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-08-07_06:2012-08-07,2012-08-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1208070220 From: Anthony Cascio In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:07:43 -0400 Message-id: References: To: marty sukey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] TRF's Uncle Dave X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net They are keeping him an extra day as he hasn't seen a doctor in a couple of years. So far he's doing well, it appears that he overdid it, and no wonder, he was involved with every aspect of summer party plus trying to answer a million questions from guys like me. We all wish him well. Tony Cascio 58 TR3A TS27093L allegrorover@mac.com www.triumphowners.com/1489 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 14:05:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD422D07B6 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:05:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278F52C0A4F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ALFA ([71.252.150.200]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id jw7V1j0034KgG9j01w7WD6; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:07:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Dave" To: References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:02:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net oh please please do not use those hood pins. I have a tr4 which I am undoing those hood pins. they just look awful on a TR. GTO or Chevelle, maybe. but please oh please don't desecrate a TR that way -----Original Message----- From: gdewine@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:43 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood of my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini Quik-Latch go to http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-Quick-Latch-Polished-A luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 14:17:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0BE2D079D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:17:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C092D0689 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so20728vcb.14 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HoBs2aJVP2JpWbZdYnRf499v1i5yqKj2AiokukmbCdg=; b=yFQ5c64dlqq+o6PSujKbVTyHv2XX1I46fbJ0lj1s87bXQiyH8ljzA6moaRmztytvHO cfiogXGqwiGz5A05ypq4w+rnHZThraO2622tnFuUk1k1kT2hzqNgd9K7FvsDGtQzoZrm MIwwh0pSQjN5IrWHLsiTDghPcinYhBakpHXi9nwEoGZnIhmD+mA1pNKpMxEb0QyDYloh bvLo1+MwXfVLqQ4tJOphSD8gy4T+hvur4kfJmpNdHPuJgY25WZBrj+fX/X81NLqXQifp auGjuwdbBKU7WTdHZwwWm47hm0MmrkqfPOZJO/Uv6bJ2hKgYp7EurWpL7bYUPCNmsoXQ KxQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.94.36 with SMTP id cz4mr10565227vdb.10.1344370533650; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.114.83 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:15:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Dave X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking from experience on my wife's spitfire race car, the studs with hold down pins are a pain to deal with. I would never use them on a car if I didn't have to. Just my $0.02 :) On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Dave wrote: > oh please please do not use those hood pins. I have a tr4 which I am > undoing those hood pins. they just look awful on a TR. GTO or Chevelle, > maybe. but please oh please don't desecrate a TR that way > > -----Original Message----- From: gdewine@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:43 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin > > I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood > of > my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini > Quik-Latch go to > http://www.speedwaymotors.com/**Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-** > Quick-Latch-Polished-A > luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/bkahler1@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 15:35:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B33C2D077D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:35:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7512D0751 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=3J30350_V8YA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=cPf6I09D_74vOR9HwHAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:28423] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id D7/E2-28917-09A81205; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:37:20 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:37:19 -0700 Message-ID: <01e501cd74e4$d2c89a60$7859cf20$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac10zSh8gBOG7kW1Q5ucsRRPdZrdvgAFs/ww Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive > fastener..... Hood pins would seem to me to be the definition of "obtrusive" as both the pin and the clip stick up for anyone to see. Some may like the look, but certainly no one, not even those who ask "Izzat a MG?", will fail to recognize that they don't belong there. > I am > open to suggestions... The original Dzus buttons, properly adjusted and maintained (maintenance being mostly doing something if they aren't tight enough), work very well IMO. My previous TR3A had the pins when I got it, and putting it back to the original configuration was one of the very first things I did. I covered over 200,000 miles with that car, and never had a problem beyond having to occasionally readjust or replace the hood buffers (which need to hold tension against the Dzus buttons). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 18:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6872D0708 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:44:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139242D06E0 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.17] helo=mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1SyuIL-0007Wr-Hy for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:38:41 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1SyuIL-00027Z-2N; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:38:41 -0400 Received: from authsmtp13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.13]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id k0eh1j0080GvC8i010ehDr; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:38:41 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=dnBuv9Ezk_0A:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=rlVDi6EfAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=OarwGSke3rreM-r7ScAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=OzOkUxcCGUcA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=98qOcNyB16KL63Z3hZrGug==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.13 X-EN-IMPSID: k0eh1j0080GvC8i010ehDr Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1SyuIK-0008Bw-Vc; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:38:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "Angelo Graham" , References: <502153AE.6060908@execulink.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 19:38:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 overdrive relay. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net YES, a modern relay will work as good, or better, than the Lucas unit. If you take the cover off the Lucas relay, the contact points only look to be good for about 5 amps. There might be one caution. Some cube relays have a diode in parallel with the coil. That makes the coil polarity sensitive. Greg G. Osseo, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angelo Graham" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: [TR] TR2/3 overdrive relay. > Hello List: > Trying to sort out my overdrive circuits and suspicious about the o/d > relay. It is the original Lucas item - only 57 years old. > Can you substitute a generic 30 amp four connector relay for the o/d > relay? > Would like to pick one up at my local flaps; having modern push on > connectors would help matters as well as I wouldn't have to modify the > harness. > Any advice on this one? > Thanks in advance. > Angelo Graham > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 19:02:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CD12D0743 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 19:02:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9792D066E for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 19:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so281388ghr.14 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=GOqhyoahJ7hllMHGgjjp0rIeDzdcVCedfoTED55XfaU=; b=AwOKDQtjfupN2dQl5/sKG6IQN8f0jySi9q48vhpCWbEDWQzs2XIskTZs7sDJJzykFC o20fXSlj/E/LRcr6OYIvyjgm/vFt9Yya36KqGjUf86liCXf5f/vO39fgSZEH1uyXD0ST wJsAeM2b+vPJXsl5Zb387R0hjv3qzcMeIpab6UxoyVKmc7EcLfgvY7zz1TUoI148/Nvz JJSdf58UTqjWOWAchMnuAxUUzFEiDmPbMM4I+qxB72jSUNAKuDnAdCI7oNmmc9dFLh6w sBmGNTAJhPLCm1oR8nJWO4RAvsNE0Rwf+D4/3kIXJ3d9PH/D1QNM68qcbO1TjyjuIxlO Sfyw== Received: by 10.236.46.229 with SMTP id r65mr15405603yhb.13.1344387876613; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([97.103.22.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t57sm39723531yhg.0.2012.08.07.18.04.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: John Wise In-Reply-To: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:04:36 -0400 Message-Id: <135F944C-D191-4072-B4E9-984F182CEFEE@gmail.com> References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> To: car discussion Sports Triumph X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The fighter that I flew in the USAF used dzus fasteners everywhere. Every time I see them on my TR, it reminds me of those good old days of going fast & pulling a lot of Gs. John On 7 Aug, 2012, at 2:43 PM, gdewine@aol.com wrote: > I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood of > my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini > Quik-Latch go to > http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-Quick-Latch-Polished-A > luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. > > > I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive fastener.....I am > open to suggestions... > > Gary > 1961 Tr3 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a.60@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 20:50:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBAA2D070F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:50:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADE02D06F3 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:42:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Toms ([unknown] [72.95.47.196]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M8F00LGC0YVEXET@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:44:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <40073730B5DA4DE0888D466C821B20E8@Toms> From: "Tom Note" To: , References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 22:44:48 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've seen some smaller 1/4 turn fasteners than Dzus, and my buddy used them on his race car. It's an aircraft fastener, "Camlok"; probably sold by Aircrafr Spruce, or maybe Mc Master-carr. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin >I am wanting to use an alternative to the dzus fasteners to hold the hood >of > my TR3 securely in place. Does anyone a suggestion? Hood pins or the mini > Quik-Latch go to > http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quik-Latch-Products-Mini-Quick-Latch-Polished-A > luminum,51943.html seem like OK options. > > > I want the hood held in place but do not want an obtrusive fastener.....I > am > open to suggestions... > > Gary > 1961 Tr3 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tom628@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 7 23:28:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B082D06EC for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 23:28:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67212D066F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 23:18:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=3J30350_V8YA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=dq-oVag4AAAA:20 a=N609IC5HDTIuEa5KwTcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GuiUHdJFARoA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F5/52-28917-347F1205; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 05:21:07 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <8CF42E3AC82B1F2-600-44400@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com> <40073730B5DA4DE0888D466C821B20E8@Toms> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 22:21:07 -0700 Message-ID: <181401cd7525$9d8f0cd0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <40073730B5DA4DE0888D466C821B20E8@Toms> Thread-Index: Ac11EPvqppz4EACgTXCsr7m4ZSexUwABMQhw Subject: Re: [TR] Dzus fastener versus hood pin X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I've seen some smaller 1/4 turn fasteners than Dzus, and my > buddy used them > on his race car. Dzus buttons also come in smaller diameters than those used on TR3s. AS has them down to 3/16" diameter. http://goo.gl/c2d6H -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 07:36:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413162D076E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from relay10.bu.edu (relay10.bu.edu [128.197.27.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D172D0376 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:30:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Envelope-From: lherault@bu.edu Received: from BUSDM801RL ([155.41.214.99]) by relay10.bu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q78DVitq028789 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:31:44 -0400 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:31:44 -0400 Message-ID: <008201cd756a$271f7a90$755e6fb0$@bu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: Ac11aiW/oPbn5Q6ST8+FVowIZIMP6g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] hood hold down X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you want the latches less obtrusive, why not paint/powder coat the Dzus fasteners in body color? Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 08:07:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5B32D07D4 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:07:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BECF2D0714 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 14:01:36 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 14:01:36 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 14:01:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 14:01:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 484158.60033.bm@omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 43142 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2012 14:01:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=xdhI5VvbPbwli3K1bk0h+jzgn6ehcnrTHIwfwCIw0SUmTvkWi3jPLyavqy+j8dEhFNfcXLvmxEpifjXx9VSCfo2wbWBOgQDO+M5Xa/XEbzCjyRHtLumOxxfLMNv0O6ISY1GbaeV+qEi/RTREN6jfDWxqieDaFOKfZ3AEl8ucJe0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344434496; bh=u+FbKrb90h/wFuXumP31NuglrLzcUHHFao5lnekfWF8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=G/9sjK6eFne5Jw/6fBKtDzEpIy/UKmTa6AfD0bkEgcWOgxE43M7eNLxpmjsIW39/SrBuNGNz+tlk2B77SUuX2riYCiIE88DMSM3jSUBlxbpbPylzEh5cYefD3zpBqKGFQpPEGfhUuGkZrIDtnBSxzIoYnQJYhHJVneH2ShEdw2k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: xrOfe3IVM1mi6HajtsThZT8rmMp3IxAoVsZrXweK.vDWp5W DpVimWCnTQFJeXp1OfAa2tOOCtMh8LVaNvwakgdU0oD1DOwJAc.sZJ1ovXAl BCKZZRv3fNVvvEAVOJNuF0edWBktWkON5GrXAemIdyR3lVS6CdPEzLhqhdJ2 hWFdyJENLrFgmuRcvehJdFwp_n34XjBvOukOdo8qB.cIKxDYkzQJ2GaFyDX2 qZEsO_VuoBIR5E8R5hsdPJzK3gCyQFgfgPFqnJDgyaFOvIDmcVBaWM8TXFu. GZuOf6H2r0zLh64g3PWydB.HjyRHy5wqE_hsjPuw5MX3Or9ATK0HGsCw1hLP VUaqzAfPTjyUZJb4Bvg44qj2X8.fxKJ7Z7Aa_sAwlvEB4aA0rae3TjKSNGq2 Rn3Rd29AQCSuOJcnLj_JGnNDnUfZruxV7xIXKecSlZDqA6qxhs0ZlyZzwHxR DLaTU5AF.lSbycevZN9Qpz800qotaMrghxGO7VOL8Gq5GG31YoQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Aug 2012 14:01:35 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: "'Ron L'Herault'" , References: <008201cd756a$271f7a90$755e6fb0$@bu.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:01:32 -0500 Message-ID: <58EF6D0220214D89AB3C24597185127C@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <008201cd756a$271f7a90$755e6fb0$@bu.edu> Thread-Index: Ac11aiW/oPbn5Q6ST8+FVowIZIMP6gAA8KAg Subject: Re: [TR] hood hold down X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Or, convert back to the TR2 bonnet latch system? Bill B -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:32 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] hood hold down If you want the latches less obtrusive, why not paint/powder coat the Dzus fasteners in body color? Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 10:33:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488952D076E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:33:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B451B2D06C2 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 10:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 16:35:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.65] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 16:35:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 16:35:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 691842.63597.bm@omp1002.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24126 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Aug 2012 16:35:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1344443756; bh=WgT9bzw6lSiVRCRbwRGYJXFedWxBadxWE1BERly8uIE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W72OEbUZldJih/MzHeqnz9t2O9U+IpsEyhBVOOJuJo6uLUtyFsafoqHFI7iO73URAFDsdbp1AlXiiEUzXzUxFuVuzV/NPOPwA6z6y3QAaYqV94dTLchtmzbI9g7Uc4Q3yrwrBuy/58tA5B1KCUEnYjSQ561pJttXyxsFuuQ0UzE= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2Vuf/AUmDtwdOGr+qLlW5KHa6ll1zxx2VmqplfPwzX/6joLHpAVRaACXpUk6Q/JJOZVvqjlZkQjOhSS7iTqTj9ZdyJkIh37AIguKbrE+jKv3gQ1b5ViYDQpZ+EvMLpKUol/aQkUk3pqX2huVBqEFt+kH/Foz6xvOWwTAYPe++wc=; X-YMail-OSG: RmsVrpIVM1mhTxWgCN6rJpcsNLqjadJhAyf2LEm7v7SvZST PJtwLOw.tM44rZ829GM6aeTNyDdfMIev_tdCmehxFoWbizSW9t11em4yALes sOUiYaGbCUqzwtGAaGTDuS3NXrS81BqZUmUXNhvCluDe1H4OzI3RdKUdAJgb VUiZe4nA1ArUug2MbIuLecJmVZT8dEHAOcbZMyA.JtmhUq5HKw._TUXLCF2x hMaeAoHuHBnEE0hlPtpVIydiCOVclf2dxEwkyZkePT2z0bK4rgisCJdnwJHR eu3TpsckyWQtN2oJXHrcQytl5PDneMzBUhh5WYX8n_9RR5HAk9x_8fLCXyvZ waWu_EPEf_PYNF0k6NxklbGwLvtt6bsLTW8O1yXyCopXq2WOY.upQwFjZA5Y 5KPtBFrHucpoub43u48cwtOaSR88xs1x1rg8lM0bI3_imv4yTL0SeAaKvYNv uL4AA9yjcoUwOA0kZ Received: from [98.137.27.128] by web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:35:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344443756.18058.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Uncle Dave at TRF picnic, condition? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Been some mention about Uncle , Perfesser DAVE of TRF, after/during the summer picnic--in a few recent posts. WHAT IS GOING ON? pleasse inform the rest of the posters/readers who are in the dark about Daves' condition, if you know the honest skinney. How about Charles, Albert OR Tomy Beaver of Indy? PLEASE RSVP ASAP. Johny with meny broken limbs in Indianapolis, Indiana, U.S.A. RACING CAPITAL OF THE WORLD ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 12:18:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD62D06CF for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 12:18:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtpout007.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtp007.mac.com [17.158.232.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678122D0699 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 12:18:41 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-67-187-54-83.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [67.187.54.83]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M8G00FL48BDBR40@nk11p03mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 18:21:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-08-08_07:2012-08-08,2012-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1208080211 From: Anthony Cascio In-reply-to: <1344443756.18058.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:21:41 -0400 Message-id: References: <1344443756.18058.YahooMailRC@web185001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: Janis Dabars X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Uncle Dave at TRF picnic, condition? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK here is the scoop. Dave as you all know works the summer party in almost every area from greeting campers to organizing all sorts of things, including selling parts and answering questions for the masses. He worked the autocross and it was pretty hot out there, when he returned to TRF that same day and before the dinner, collapsed and was taken to the hospital by the paramedics. There he remained until yesterday I believe, to get fully checked out, heat exhaustion was the diagnosis and he is back to work today so I am told. I haven't spoken to him yet today but I will. Some of this info was passed to me from his daughter so it's pretty accurate. We all hope he is in great health and feels much better. Tony Cascio 58 TR3A TS27093L allegrorover@mac.com www.triumphowners.com/1489 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 14:08:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0CF2D06E7 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:08:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B04C2D0673 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:08:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-10584.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.57.91] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SzCaf-0000rE-7H; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:10:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:10:48 -0400 Message-Id: <5A257F9B-FEE9-42E9-80F7-F6DA41E5B2FD@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: jdabars@att.net Subject: Re: [TR] Uncle Dave at TRF picnic, condition? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:35:56, Janis Dabars wrote: > Been some mention about Uncle , Perfesser DAVE > of TRF, after/during the summer > picnic--in a few recent posts. WHAT IS GOING > ON? pleasse inform the rest of > the posters/readers who are in the dark about > Daves' condition, if you know > the honest skinney. How about Charles, Albert OR > Tomy Beaver of Indy? Shortly after we sat down under the tents for dinner, an ambulance arrived and departed a while later with Dave in tow. It was a combination of heat exhaustion and fatigue. They pumped him full of fluids at the hospital and because he had not seen a doctor in a few years, they kept him in the hospital for another day or so. He was by TRF yesterday and apparently he was "looking and feeling much better" to quote Will Jones. Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 14:57:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7E42D06CA for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:57:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393092D0635 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W12 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:00:16 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.62.204.114] From: marty sukey To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:00:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2012 21:00:16.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0138C70:01CD75A8] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TRF S.P. Results X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FYI, the results from the Summer Party along with pictures are already up on the TRF web site. Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 15:44:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109152D066B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:44:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com (mail-gg0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A880B2D064B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:43:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ggnf4 with SMTP id f4so1597312ggn.14 for ; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:45:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S0H/CLtGJriFahXbevJHN3CkO5yrM6mhYrZv0m0VPhg=; b=c9q8CFzLqybv2RCKhfs6XTfG59JQz1Sv1wMavN906+pwcaNzUlzokBza5xMJfZT9gm ByTi1hV/qVvfpHQNp9UWxeMytiWGDcZYZdZu43uPB+fHyYOOwd8qe66ioc5edmyUVMam ftMbFn6+PQOAPPHojAu6KvsmOWuNQJjYaMRBc2IzzROXLKdPctmY5v9wLaQQNeMBwneO GNkucECR50pNKRbhwLKtF+qy2epClTo3MgFtPqKj0J9s1os5TpPBDLiUO7hyzVkFX97T Wni8syfoKDewgFdErk3fgMF+HEJ9K4DrS+Wxkz0x4sCq+z3F7vBkorLw1ETTVBk2RrnM Gxgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.104 with SMTP id nr8mr243753igc.25.1344462345772; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.62.197 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:45:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Spotted: Light Blue TR3A Bound for TX X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Posted on the BCF but also here in case the owner in among y'all. Spotted this light blue TR3A on a car hauler here in Tucson. Was in the street whilst another car was unloaded, was back on the truck by the time I returned with a camera. Has California black plates, the truck driver said it's going to Texas. http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc499/Ahwahnee18/TR3/BlueTR3A1.jpg http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc499/Ahwahnee18/TR3/BlueTR3A2.jpg Looked to be a very nice car, albeit very dirty -- the '60 Chevy above it is a 'leaker'. I stuck my TR3A 'business' card in among the parts boxes on the front seat so maybe I'll make contact with the new owner one day. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 16:14:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0028D2D0669 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:14:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6633C2D0639 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 22:07:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.194] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 22:07:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2012 22:07:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 832584.55630.bm@omp1052.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56899 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Aug 2012 22:07:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344463666; bh=P6GQ+JNkRderbpeGvtc811ibwUOAg5GQFQrnz/U1KoA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rW0O0f1Kt2+gvVdqUBeTk4wpzrBeq+S3K3IwabfrrV9VDmPvCq40TqnLnLVpuLtptCi4iMAoi4hTbL1GYHZNBaYlpTkCk4et7NetCtv+Qwdhto9J+uzMolF1mZGjoUoHFlpuqrXBs9zTh3sS5n+DnowKB1xSuIE1gE5ywOMRwts= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=txOCjW7nUlY7yzb4adiH1EcMyLVtcw8gxwgpM8W7Ls8AazQQHAGMWqcOGv4sixuRsZeuAzSs7PZmnsmnoR38KFw61xfUwshMN97sCvjokpXLfkjjAd83GH7LIMYmGQo3zikY5JBsm6jGGmi8H0rUnkiaaEjHT4HM+ZygICg+590=; X-YMail-OSG: huvgPXIVM1l2m4c9rwbDwCXe6zO.D9z91pmKYQGuoC4O98m 07MTzW6kTiVO_oS8k1aQGezTdPeJ5kj0FxK_RZhClyvrI5HcUaO3RvXW4lcM qFUKAQ5vUHGlRnbLJ0bWqM6VV24pof8JsaECsgiOhxz5bSy4QDYZYkVcKzj3 HFfuqNFSdihz_z7EOHGxKxu0JWV9qAHtv_v2eYjdsZ.xWB0vcTAmVptKiQkg PuaMlC_a_WrFYjKTFvNIlc4FLm7yI_CvPvHmhTvRvMYbWgW7WNTC3Qq36D85 7Bk7h82ie5kv_hKTmOVOV_IO2_bJI8f.AM0W6rysghTeNnde1hUB2lnBiov_ jId_qSa9XU8gh2.NdFV5hrnZAgpeYznRppSDUOlUJTsuX.VFFzgLyror2KiI Q2cLlFYePS__3V8nxHGZXBOs53p922Bfs0EEXbXNj8Sq2Nd6PvCFam2LP8ZY u1HKozMN6CQgtBW1VD6A9.zh0m_T5vb6qqyCn.0tLyq9B Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 15:07:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: Message-ID: <1344463666.27885.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: marty sukey , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ahhhhh i love and hate seeing pictures of the summer party. i used to live and work in Indiana PA. at the time i had small children and could not afford to get into the hobby. but i always turned out to look and wish. it is one of the nicest places i have lived. of course the Coventry inn was a construction site back then. is Culpeppers still open a few doors down? they used to serve the coldest beverages and white Pizza. im heavily invested there. ill make it back with car one of these years Frank ________________________________ From: marty sukey To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: [TR] TRF S.P. Results FYI, the results from the Summer Party along with pictures are already up on the TRF web site. Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 16:15:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D992D0655 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:15:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB0F2D033B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:10:23 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAKvjIlC4CBuI/2dsb2JhbABFuWSDKT+BfS2Hc6dXlBOGIIpyYAOITpJXjTI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,735,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="303936417" X-Originating-IP: [184.8.27.136] Received: from relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.247]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 08 Aug 2012 22:12:57 +0000 X-Previous-IP: 184.8.27.136 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (184-8-27-136.dr1.ssvl.ca.frontiernet.net [184.8.27.136]) by relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F33EC2F809C for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:12:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Tim Purdy Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:12:55 -0700 Message-Id: To: TR List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] Greyhound Shipping X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net While many in the past have expressed that Greyhound was one of the most economical ways to ship Triumph items long distance, I thought I pass along with my first time nightmare of doing this. On July 24 I sent $259 including shipping, via Paypal, to Donato Motors in Logansport, Indiana for a TR4 bonnet and hinges. Unfortunately, the bonnet just sat there for another three days, and I had to eventually pay another $100 to have someone take the bonnet to Greyhound to ship it. Good news at first, since I was informed it only took three days from Indiana to Reno, Nevada. Time has been a critical element, since my Triumph is my daily driver and only car, but was disabled when it was ran into. Lo, and behold when I called Greyhound, they basically said at least a minimum of ten days. More than ten days have passed and no sign of it. Greyhound told me they have no idea where it maybe, but will put a tracer on it, but that will take a week. So I just want to alert others that one should examine multiple options on shipping, as I wish I had did. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 19:56:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E812D083E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:56:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.130]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BA9D2D0671 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 01:55:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.80] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 01:55:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 01:55:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 461027.42427.bm@omp1017.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38457 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2012 01:55:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1344477351; bh=s5cmJZGOjsHSsximGl0rrsUHUbmQnCDVtYvoP0grkww=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=20jcYs/MLyG8BM7jy1m04QJUfEovIIr8fZP1A0cKoHcV8UIZfiu1qhko8mS1K8qZx184QKiySO5gIRgkWsv1QBp3HR/FIDwGnNw9yxH+nkVgzByiV+i7QJlrnChiTsyot/dEBHQd3w6r/krP0fbHjhfMdtery1baRGIigjIA5lk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ohs0zWK5sF/aVLdK9kAE3bdl66f2f/EowPVeTLjEcVvUx+Z14cBLs6hmo05/oJXcNPMEutOlEfIvjLGJx4nf0GVLRBjEiyOw8tn7xDRiHh/nMn5CET6sIH4uGKpgTAn7KM1leQkVRFzAut7RVhBcmY9uF4RgnJXNgVweZiBp8s8=; X-YMail-OSG: 4AspwCoVM1lZVfgIC37_1lMXBbzHyxGu2N4Sr_oXaMpWC03 dbp5ilqbYDKjtvAD7tYm8cDOk0ieBChNef31uy0nMvh8SMWqO9gPF8ak8m4a alYfMazsmUTvC.sXHROWxzgsL4orXniTDeJGtUEsFL518JvksWD.0TETWQ5s 7tCJr1itEIj.v6_ob63OSoN8Jp3vC0qZDhdWBEiKuyGMkLdpkBOmyOWLeuJo Qb40NEXBJBDLRQZ.g0BgHJMswU__jrAusqHJ_SuzNv.MB2Tp__XMqm_NJj_q JGMNdJWdxtKqUl0lSZk2zRhJDw4XcCChqjMsrRvAV4m4vlSZtA1QcynNR0nI ZKoMTtVpXJRs5KD3qTjElM2jUjzCBx_jcOgnZ5xLjSY.49h9WOog_UQSIjX8 8bq_PqPF8CeVPooxuYz463sW64AKOXNSkJTiOcqRK1FgjsBheVbiZRd1C.sb 1i8nXIaS4LLpC0z_vMezEvTxsem_jgsxFxl68.9UQo9ZX8mnHaZXp4USjr_v K4Z9AjqQ3mUl6p73RKeJMGg-- Received: from [99.149.16.191] by web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 18:55:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344477351.37887.YahooMailRC@web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7-mau780 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Click on the previous(this subject ) to hopefuly , see/hear uncle Daves favorite tune, click on it to activate(hopefuly). Thanks to all that reported HIS condition. John in Indianapolis with meny limb fractures and 4 and a half month in intensivecare/rehab--had to relearn how to walk. I tell you one thing---IWILL BE at the summer picnic though the wife Maija will have to drive me there. Hope the forward site goes through and becomes vailable, Don't yell & cuss if it does not. Then MEA CULPA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 8 20:11:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDC92D0896 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 20:11:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94662D084E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 20:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W125 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:14:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:14:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1344463666.27885.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: , <1344463666.27885.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2012 02:14:01.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[A437A880:01CD75D4] Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup, Culpeppers is still alive and well. Stromboli and cold beer is a bit of a tradition for us when we go to the S.P. every year. Marty ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:07:46 -0700 > From: yellowtr3@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results > To: trmarty@hotmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net > > ahhhhh > i love and hate seeing pictures of the summer party. > i used to live and work in Indiana PA. at the time i had small children > and could not afford to get into the hobby. but i always turned out to > look and wish. > it is one of the nicest places i have lived. > of course the Coventry inn was a construction site back then. > is Culpeppers still open a few doors down? they used to serve the > coldest beverages and white Pizza. im heavily invested there. > ill make it back with car one of these years > > Frank > > From: marty sukey > To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 2:00 PM > Subject: [TR] TRF S.P. Results > > FYI, the results from the Summer Party along with pictures are already up on > the TRF web site. > > Marty > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 07:03:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9DB2D035A for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 07:03:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1FD2D0212 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 07:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kcea1j00517dt5G5Ad3QHR; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:03:24 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kd3i1j01P2ymm843Zd3irP; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:03:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:03:17 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <2001253462.337754.1344517397328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.192.208.10] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] current draw of TR4A blower and wiper X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know the current draw for the stock, good condition, heater blower and wiper motors in the TR2-4A cars? -Tony ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 08:52:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598382D04BE for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:52:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 517052D03C0 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:46:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 14:48:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.173] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 14:48:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Aug 2012 14:48:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 234633.21806.bm@omp1029.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 8005 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2012 14:48:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344523728; bh=VVH0159PAQMUCuugfYqSF9TZunlX+GKUOeq+FvuQNdk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f7C9dSMNpLwvTrHBu4Nh+OUSKrvSd9dYei1kDslcP5o7TAjUMv0JLoIC7siwsaz7wzAPHuZm0+AU2ykr9tNrnL22+dmQyJCGg+ohNS4nIdIZjN1qTCjs7fjGPeA0fU2tZpL5T7SFBlc3Xkt8sWVeGlLwcTZXMJekqy3N3iGqeSM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I9eiAD13kyfkGLoceLQFwonjr3tMas5wjszNgS1Tm+djgsX0nOyYln1N+sbT+1xNXf/z+PjSzbh3N3C2tdmLoOydBeyGhonQvkOOY+cxHCcq2Z0Tns9fatvelit8J5fboXeZS9uBXxAsIGyBWBjRrJHcnQySUTlnp0fnXisaYLY=; X-YMail-OSG: F1YoUr0VM1k3eFWZiXHT.lUdfW.msRVvXiHlOhWrxYOqf5b HnFRVfrN6tOVPlMNCk13ZqEE4A2IlCaFfS_SIUN7w19op6NGiaVnzl_svAVj Ko4feZGEbrdNUqz4IwxHR95wa_dljwke25Z0dTaZcrYYgCETvJfxemEwijQu 6soCxJWsssSz.ZHcw2Dc5M14NFMiM7wo4ZBejjulsIW3cctxTrqj3czqtm8F anzPTM1s2IJilpvM38mfo9e_CnaW9Yo9Nq7NGbk8pQRul3JK37PP.GtDGFZx YyFrRZEuT045667rGqa607KsAXYCrI5tDz2Tyt3KFSm02bd4b2k_NBALQ71H lTcRR61FO_CF8E7fM.922tDvnHN0qlbBInMwas0ZCdJhgNB6249MPWVdRZtN Hg3qfHFCcNOEaSNspFsUmdbcdzYUAd3cyNHl8Rx1y8DnJHRkJYp3TtbfPdsJ DEGQf3MrRiCyTb0EA.px8gduqPkShCGS2lFDsb4AEhKWN Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:48:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: , <1344463666.27885.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1344523727.86009.YahooMailNeo@web120202.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 07:48:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: marty sukey , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net sigh ! ________________________________ From: marty sukey To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com; "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:14 PM Subject: RE: [TR] TRF S.P. Results Yup, Culpeppers is still alive and well. Stromboli and cold beer is a bit of a tradition for us when we go to the S.P. every year. Marty ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:07:46 -0700 > From: yellowtr3@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results > To: trmarty@hotmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net > > ahhhhh > i love and hate seeing pictures of the summer party. > i used to live and work in Indiana PA. at the time i had small children > and could not afford to get into the hobby. but i always turned out to > look and wish. > it is one of the nicest places i have lived. > of course the Coventry inn was a construction site back then. > is Culpeppers still open a few doors down? they used to serve the > coldest beverages and white Pizza. im heavily invested there. > ill make it back with car one of these years > > Frank > > From: marty sukey > To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 2:00 PM > Subject: [TR] TRF S.P. Results > > FYI, the results from the Summer Party along with pictures are already up on > the TRF web site. > > Marty > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 13:23:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B802D063C for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:23:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858412D0639 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3203.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.131] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SzYMI-00052e-SP; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:25:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:25:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TRF S.P. Results X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 8 Aug 2012, at 3:07 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > > is Culpeppers still open a few doors down? they used to serve the > coldest beverages and white Pizza. im heavily invested there. > ill make it back > with car one of these years Yes, it is. Based on your description of when you were last there, it is greatly expanded - having taken over the business next door. Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 14:48:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860032D06E8 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:48:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4401C2D06DB for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail152-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.231) by CH1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.43.70.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:44:46 +0000 Received: from mail152-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail152-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD08C440445 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:44:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz14ffIzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah) Received: from mail152-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail152-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1344545084506967_930; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS010.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.241]) by mail152-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1642E004F for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by CH1EHSMHS010.bigfish.com (10.43.70.10) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:44:43 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BA2668002 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:44:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A04D7277F2F; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:44:43 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7549468002 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:44:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:44:35 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:44:42 +0100 Thread-Topic: TR2 front wheels Thread-Index: AQHNdm/IXIIO5EVlhE6yFeDcRuGHiw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A14D7277F2F X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] TR2 front wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, still enjoying motoring on the now driving 15 year project, shake down is going well with little tweaks here and there. The biggest issue is heavy (very) slow speed steering. I had the tracking set-up on old Dunlop gauges, but still feels a little odd and also a front end "slow wobble" at low speeds. I put a spirit level against the wheels/tyres, one of them leans out at the top by just under 1/2 inch, while the other is parallel top to bottom. Any ideas??? I was wondering because I built up the suspension, with poly bushes etc, while there was no body or engine on the chassis, could tis be an issue, all ideas welcome, especially what I should look for. Regards John (still smiling) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 14:54:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A900D2D071A for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:54:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706032D0718 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:54:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=jdcqWrEYTZAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=VvXbZOA6vCsTXS8UwSoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:30248] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 96/D5-17657-10424205; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:56:34 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2001253462.337754.1344517397328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2001253462.337754.1344517397328.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:56:33 -0700 Message-ID: <007201cd7671$75c529d0$614f7d70$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac12L9Q+o5R6cJV9TjOtKscun/n3YwAQEGHQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] current draw of TR4A blower and wiper X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone know the current draw for the stock, good condition, heater > blower and wiper motors in the TR2-4A cars? Best I can recall, my stock TR3 heater fan drew about 4 amps at 12.0 volts. I think it was my rewound version that drew closer to 7 amps. But that was a long time ago (cue Bob Dylan "When blackness was a virtue and the road was full of mud.") so possibly not worth much. TR4 heater of course is completely different than the TR3, and I've never tried to measure one of those. Don't forget, the current will depend heavily on load. Startup or bad bearings will likely make it much higher. Running without the fan blades will make it lower (and may be a bad idea if the motor is series-wound). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 9 15:04:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A3F2D07A1 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:04:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217052D079F for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=sWFWmOwfE-v-LcWBhpAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:30253] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id C6/3D-13948-C1624205; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:05:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: <007601cd7672$b6f34d00$24d9e700$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHNdm/IXIIO5EVlhE6yFeDcRuGHi5dR9pOA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I put a spirit level against the wheels/tyres, one of them leans out at > the > top by just under 1/2 inch, while the other is parallel top to bottom. > Any > ideas??? 1/2" is about right, the other side is wrong. You might try checking the angle of the spring towers if you can, otherwise I don't know what to suggest. I'm assuming you examined the frame carefully while the body was off and would have spotted any cracks or sharp bends (especially around the lower suspension pivot pins), but it might be tweaked that much without being obvious. FWIW, twice now I've had a lower pivot that was ripped entirely loose from the frame, but practically impossible to spot with the car assembled. First time, even the alignment shop didn't spot it. Second time (years later, different car), I found it while stripping the wreck for parts. Most likely it got broken in the accident, but I had driven the car after that (to the body shop & back). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 06:06:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B713E2C0D49 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:06:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C4A02C0D44 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:58:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23672 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2012 12:01:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.4.205) by smtpout06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.224) with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2012 12:01:24 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:01:29 -0400 Message-ID: <005601cd76ef$e1509b70$a3f1d250$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKVRybGftKxX86Lk2Aqn1GfsgfC45XDUCmA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John: some after-market ball joints have the hole for the split pin too far out, with the result that one may not tighten the ball joint enough - but that would lead to positive camber, not negative. Don't know what to suggest other than to check the two sides and make sure they are the same. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Gillis Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:45 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2 front wheels Hi all, still enjoying motoring on the now driving 15 year project, shake down is going well with little tweaks here and there. The biggest issue is heavy (very) slow speed steering. I had the tracking set-up on old Dunlop gauges, but still feels a little odd and also a front end "slow wobble" at low speeds. I put a spirit level against the wheels/tyres, one of them leans out at the top by just under 1/2 inch, while the other is parallel top to bottom. Any ideas??? I was wondering because I built up the suspension, with poly bushes etc, while there was no body or engine on the chassis, could tis be an issue, all ideas welcome, especially what I should look for. Regards John (still smiling) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 12:40:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3CE2C0D07 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:40:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAB32C0C97 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:39:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=LmQDk-8Ku2Y60yu2f_YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:43597] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D3/CD-28917-71655205; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:42:31 +0000 Message-ID: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:42:31 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs List Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I have had an original TR3 shift knob that was cracked and showing its age. But I liked the feel of the narrow rubber knob than the after market wooden knobs. So I wanted to restore it to its original condition. I first tried coating it with clear silicone caulking but it soon started to peal and look worse than the original dried out knob. So I tried a product called Plasti Dip. It is used to coat tool handles for better grip. First I sanded the old knob to smooth it out. Then I cleaned it with lacquer thinner to remove all grease etc. Then I dipped it into the can of dip and then stood it up on a stick in a vise for 1 hour. Repeated for a final coat and I have to say it looks like brand new! Feels great in the hand as I am sure the original ones did way back when. A can of this dip was about 6.75 at Lowes. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 13:39:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C612D014F for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:39:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197DF2C0D43 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:31:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.192] by nm6.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:33:53 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by tm5.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:33:53 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.100] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:33:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:33:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 242822.68721.bm@omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62946 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2012 19:33:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=Ab0ToPKvZbFuojhst99idREsMfhIKk4r7kbu3PUwIXxiD9LxBkv21Nu7plR/NzMU2uDZz/tGYLMo+TXJrSlYo4zuWojKh6g9fBjoGZ38BB3vus7yJAHC0FOQKedKw9W7b1BaAXVcPjnl+aSbrChXWunXiyFO8gvET657IEsIJ0g= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344627233; bh=lvVieFKT3gLkadrrgK+Y1Uwxu+356kjQPDVEDqOLcAY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=vJq4mnQhESCZE5yGSoZJEQ92JyMeI14dTu/deT0d4KnqE6wCccQaS0d6CKSQiXD89wqRxHJsfalBskjwLxv0n0P04Ccce4Q7A+mARl3cXX3es5eFZxphtAspxd9rGU2wYXR2zQJoXsWSflDsxi8h4cmUwFwiW/hkmb34DBVbRq0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: VFdqA8gVM1mC7NHUgX14Bjd9Th1jsAsB5kd4uxrMRXIN.Kr Kb3q2V7YqYDR4upJbe7kFa0Q9oKAOuXVN6_Q3LAZyc7teKfzXZX53DMhKO8p JGGukcK7t9VOuLvgTS6ZqwrIoI7y5msmvYCtqJ4n1bVhp6xgRiGPHFFMBHgV YNDbsAW3pra1VE9LlBK_jpDNX4OHPjQi5ZMoEjFSkN7YHX86abPWQGbor4JF KZfmy.OiImzBmO5hxqhFAT7y_3qJJAkpwKbvFRjFV3f1x2zAaiMm0SNVcDQY 4Y1F5RrX_oWLtbItsy_os1hQHrjlJ5wzpgerOgLjHuB9LvMqG.WeUWbxgBo9 RteXprmp.jW19L_7I5UQZ6hXzxTkeWM2jUQv_4e0R_YOb3CXAN7.KJwazYOH 7butZo1VS2i4oUVOLFvbN1CZQPCPy3fWOANI5CNfQdnP821KsSupmKlzmTdv XFa78PdOY5JUvpba_damI7TdN3kI6kG_gLy.5kT_WFLG6fbWujAJiTOYwhcu JY98vm05sH45x1euqqqnDwWU4UVX2ksuCESr03TdYgGQ3iwjzu7ZcQo5o6Q- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2012 12:33:52 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , "'Triumphs List'" References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac13KAiVFXTnOrdJR4ik1wXgiyEZcgABfGEg In-Reply-To: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Great restoration, or you could spend $20 at TRF(p/n 19045) and buy a new one/NFI. I didn't have an original to restore but I really like the small black rubber one as it is lower and the top my hand doesn't scrape the bottom of the dash as it did with the AMCO walnut knob. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:43 PM To: Triumphs List Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration Hello, I have had an original TR3 shift knob that was cracked and showing its age. But I liked the feel of the narrow rubber knob than the after market wooden knobs. So I wanted to restore it to its original condition. I first tried coating it with clear silicone caulking but it soon started to peal and look worse than the original dried out knob. So I tried a product called Plasti Dip. It is used to coat tool handles for better grip. First I sanded the old knob to smooth it out. Then I cleaned it with lacquer thinner to remove all grease etc. Then I dipped it into the can of dip and then stood it up on a stick in a vise for 1 hour. Repeated for a final coat and I have to say it looks like brand new! Feels great in the hand as I am sure the original ones did way back when. A can of this dip was about 6.75 at Lowes. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 13:54:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4703B2D016E for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:54:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5183D2D0153 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:52:17 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.227] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:52:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.100] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:52:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Aug 2012 19:52:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 364786.77598.bm@omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39908 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2012 19:52:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=rAjwT1FUxeaWeVsfBY9Txs3jwg1BSy15Kikb9wj+Pl/66LJdFKTy/K/tDeqvGWGwEyFeCcNKz7nKJfj+tC9/+ZY3fqg361qYTPQGGOwuoxEoHzoc0A3KoZxsZIci72cINDV0h+vGzkllZOYsBGX04GfIaJznhr5GQ1VdC71SXiU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344628337; bh=sRJHW1PUrH/GOENv+VS2KPr1mKrVN+et+DVCdvPmNxQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=QmypLOnQyoEvs9eIktWEjfX0AR/hLRl7jnXHJ4MGDEoJ1ay4NSJsaLUb9ReNnoNOrzFbaKLLlhpfXZiHkLhU6ZPFqPLBiSW1+fRFOzJy0nqcmJMVgUFf/3KwjuKbCdGlp3BUb6wSnmKTOQAPJxaVthWE6q74t+QDQpP8/jotpK8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EmKx0ukVM1nLeRLeMXit5mIFTWWkAx1hONeTPaQ3qAUG7wO DpH5qinnc33BkwT3LxICgRiCZsuzkSqDWhLeimYIFkFlq0Fs00XaTUTQeUeF BIo8VNPoK6XupzxX9.XihzZ7rsQd7IaSl8seoByEuxtIZyMdWZvzzvXQXm5M y69LvZT7B9hCtZAXlUBzoDfbehjP7Wr2wkxhIvPA3DqcGWPiZwbybPgppkkB WKnflyOaZQKwq2N407ETv3E6WgXv867ubS9D0bVi8SBYIXDZilRgr1iXaBrB iS2WsSe_oHdE2ck1VUIODRtPPnY5fqtIdbuoUT1BCIbWj73YwLfDxskYrBbj Bimg0pWJPcHzHPhyGewtGzFoKfAf8yFToKNSRfUyl8iyjqt4w81AwbIWtlJL mEwbNKoTblb.Wfbstkg4icDy4TafpwG5rxwBqflll2jlDqtSuddgEKe4wuee lk.twNl3srEFPXtn3JmiRt8v_EKpRigZRkxcm2WfzRTZ6T99qVD59fexuwjP LnuOZeXT0bqJrWSK6BScYFjE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2012 12:52:16 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Triumphs List'" Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:52:10 -0500 Message-ID: <667F11E66D674759AB6E2ED2457F2567@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac13MZ3Mpsa/HfkBQIG6LKeEUlOflw== Subject: [TR] VTR 2012 Events X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Forgive my ignorance but I have never been able to attend a VTR event, just local car shows. I am half way through the registration process and being asked what events I want to participate in. I presume the "Modified" events are not for me as my car is stock, but what are all the different Concours Stock/Preservation/Senior class requirements? I know what an Autocross is, but what is a TSD Rallye, Gimmick Rallye and Funkhana? Maybe someone can point me to a link that will help me to understand all this, really looking forward to a fun week. Thx, Bill Driving to VTR Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 14:08:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DA02D017F for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:08:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707A72D0174 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:02:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=YASFZoEMx6GoA1dWpnMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pnyMiPvKGVFd-rkM:21 a=t6QM5yuD1Mgd965Z:21 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:44886] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 81/9E-28917-76965205; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:04:55 +0000 Message-ID: <50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:04:56 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wbeech , Triumphs List References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Is the TRF model a soft rubber knob like the original? The photos make it look like it is plastic or bakelite. Bob On 08/10/2012 03:33 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Great restoration, or you could spend $20 at TRF(p/n 19045) and buy a new > one/NFI. > > I didn't have an original to restore but I really like the small black > rubber one as it is lower and the top my hand doesn't scrape the bottom of > the dash as it did with the AMCO walnut knob. > > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:43 PM > To: Triumphs List > Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration > > Hello, > > I have had an original TR3 shift knob that was cracked and showing its age. > But I liked the feel of the narrow rubber knob than the after market wooden > knobs. > > So I wanted to restore it to its original condition. > > I first tried coating it with clear silicone caulking but it soon started to > peal and look worse than the original dried out knob. > > So I tried a product called Plasti Dip. It is used to coat tool handles for > better grip. > > First I sanded the old knob to smooth it out. Then I cleaned it with lacquer > thinner to remove all grease etc. > > Then I dipped it into the can of dip and then stood it up on a stick in a > vise for 1 hour. Repeated for a final coat and I have to say it looks like > brand new! > > Feels great in the hand as I am sure the original ones did way back when. > > A can of this dip was about 6.75 at Lowes. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 14:40:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743F62C0D18 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:40:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218C42C0B8F for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:35:17 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAFpwJVCtV8/j/2dsb2JhbABEi0CuN4MiBQEBAQMBCAEBLhEFCQEmBgEBAwUCBA0BAwQBAQEJHgcUAQQYAgkKCQgGARIIAgECAwEMBIdmBgujexyTWYsPhgRgA4gZjkSJag+HfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,748,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="304549336" X-Originating-IP: [173.87.207.227] Received: from relay01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.244]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2012 20:37:51 +0000 X-Previous-IP: 173.87.207.227 Received: from Office (173-87-207-227.dsl1.chtw.wv.frontiernet.net [173.87.207.227]) by relay01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2404A30C0D7; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: From: "Ed Oot" To: "Bob Labuz" , "Wbeech" , "Triumphs List" References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> <50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:37:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It's rubber. An excellent reproduction of original. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Labuz" To: "Wbeech" ; "Triumphs List" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration > Bill, > > Is the TRF model a soft rubber knob like the original? The photos make it > look like it is plastic or bakelite. > > Bob > > On 08/10/2012 03:33 PM, Wbeech wrote: >> Great restoration, or you could spend $20 at TRF(p/n 19045) and buy a new >> one/NFI. >> >> I didn't have an original to restore but I really like the small black >> rubber one as it is lower and the top my hand doesn't scrape the bottom >> of >> the dash as it did with the AMCO walnut knob. >> >> Bill >> >> Bill Beecher >> '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" >> '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" >> www.triumphowners.com/1566 >> '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" >> "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too >> slow" >> M.Andretti >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:43 PM >> To: Triumphs List >> Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration >> >> Hello, >> >> I have had an original TR3 shift knob that was cracked and showing its >> age. >> But I liked the feel of the narrow rubber knob than the after market >> wooden >> knobs. >> >> So I wanted to restore it to its original condition. >> >> I first tried coating it with clear silicone caulking but it soon started >> to >> peal and look worse than the original dried out knob. >> >> So I tried a product called Plasti Dip. It is used to coat tool handles >> for >> better grip. >> >> First I sanded the old knob to smooth it out. Then I cleaned it with >> lacquer >> thinner to remove all grease etc. >> >> Then I dipped it into the can of dip and then stood it up on a stick in a >> vise for 1 hour. Repeated for a final coat and I have to say it looks >> like >> brand new! >> >> Feels great in the hand as I am sure the original ones did way back when. >> >> A can of this dip was about 6.75 at Lowes. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/eoot@citlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 15:27:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B0D2D0188 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:27:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52782D019D for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1336442lbo.14 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pNzbDG9Yan5TKRZoFsUjUVgS9557k0RWc9/EBYYVQE8=; b=p/7yE3bELfDvXrsAdRNHGgz4uuFRpfxPhkGTB5jOrrgJ2Y+MyYq+3hF2/i6dIQ6BHK 3CCTtceNSp9n/L9s4cV3d7mJc1K+9NIa6NWgZiq+OR2oxG79Mw5i21HIGLwTvebr1/C7 4lKd29z0RD6xVtyq0i2yw1TOv7fY6O3/A6WPGRHNwnd5ZsPcCWas0urVQuZ5zxLDoqat lMPimF1nnwdvRemLdfyptPaVoxgUJwoGVivJPI3KsmBAUHmVhgb0+zXeoXxdZfeeDLkH 1JhGSi8zbV7GFOIjFDCGTY/vBtLVcnxGMDO2fu0VltHzEGmZafxsyUFZUWubNbdRCpsa LR9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.17.195 with SMTP id q3mr3064554lbd.34.1344633881561; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> <50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:24:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Ed Oot Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have what I believe is one of the original TR knobs as well as the modern rubber version. The two are generally the same, but different in almost every detail. The profile of the taper is "steeper" -- more conical -- on the modern knob. The size and typeface for the shift pattern is different, too. The modern one is definitely a harder rubber. The original looks more like some composition of a filler and a rubbery binder, possibly painted black. I've had it for 30 plus years, given to me by one of the founders of what's now the TRA. There may be early and late versions of the original TR2-3B knobs -- smarter folk than I will have to chime in here. My original sits on the shelves in my shop. The modern is on the car. It's plenty good enough to use, and fits a lot better than an AMCO knob. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 8/10/12, Ed Oot wrote: > It's rubber. An excellent reproduction of original. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Labuz" > To: "Wbeech" ; "Triumphs List" > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration > > >> Bill, >> >> Is the TRF model a soft rubber knob like the original? The photos make it >> >> look like it is plastic or bakelite. >> >> Bob >> >> On 08/10/2012 03:33 PM, Wbeech wrote: >>> Great restoration, or you could spend $20 at TRF(p/n 19045) and buy a >>> new >>> one/NFI. >>> >>> I didn't have an original to restore but I really like the small black >>> rubber one as it is lower and the top my hand doesn't scrape the bottom >>> of >>> the dash as it did with the AMCO walnut knob. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> Bill Beecher >>> '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" >>> '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" >>> www.triumphowners.com/1566 >>> '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" >>> "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too >>> slow" >>> M.Andretti >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >>> [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz >>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:43 PM >>> To: Triumphs List >>> Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have had an original TR3 shift knob that was cracked and showing its >>> age. >>> But I liked the feel of the narrow rubber knob than the after market >>> wooden >>> knobs. >>> >>> So I wanted to restore it to its original condition. >>> >>> I first tried coating it with clear silicone caulking but it soon started >>> >>> to >>> peal and look worse than the original dried out knob. >>> >>> So I tried a product called Plasti Dip. It is used to coat tool handles >>> for >>> better grip. >>> >>> First I sanded the old knob to smooth it out. Then I cleaned it with >>> lacquer >>> thinner to remove all grease etc. >>> >>> Then I dipped it into the can of dip and then stood it up on a stick in >>> a >>> vise for 1 hour. Repeated for a final coat and I have to say it looks >>> like >>> brand new! >>> >>> Feels great in the hand as I am sure the original ones did way back >>> when. >>> >>> A can of this dip was about 6.75 at Lowes. >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/eoot@citlink.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 15:42:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56712D0161 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:42:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B462D0188 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:35:12 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=m15qlFL9QG8A:10 a=6c-7qDI_HE9FLpu2bREA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:39120] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 4B/F9-17657-A2F75205; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:37:47 +0000 Message-ID: <20120810213747.UM2I1.57751.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:37:46 -0400 From: To: 'Triumphs List' , Wbeech In-Reply-To: <667F11E66D674759AB6E2ED2457F2567@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Events X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I presume the "Modified" events are not for me as my car is stock, but what > are all the different Concours Stock/Preservation/Senior class requirements? This info should be on the VTR site somewhere, but I didn't see it. Basically "Preservation" and "Senior" are for previous winners, so you won't be eligible for those. "Concours" cars get judged against a list of "how it should be", while I believe there is also a "Participants Choice" category where other owners get to vote for their favorite car regardless of how "correct" it is. > I know what an Autocross is, but what is a TSD Rallye, Gimmick Rallye and > Funkhana? "TSD" is "Time, Speed, Distance", a "traditional" road rally where you are judged on how well you follow directions. For example, you might be directed to drive a stretch of road at 40 mph, and judged on how closely you held 40 mph (by checking how long it took you to drive the distance). A "Gimmick" rally is more or less similar, but typically adds tricky questions and/or tests of your powers of observation. For example, the directions might say to turn left at the prancing pony, where the image of a horse is on anything from a mail box to a movie marquee. Or it might be a local pub called "The Prancing Pony". Or it might be a horse show at the fairgrounds, you never quite know until you see it. And there may be questions like "How many driveways were on your left?" or "How many miles to Tulare?". Both types of rally are typically run on public roads, not closed courses, so of course you are also responsible for driving safely, following all traffic laws, etc. A Funkhana is a different kind of event, with more emphasis on precision low speed control of the car. Typically run in a closed parking lot, one car at a time. A favorite with those who are reluctant to drive their cars on the open road; but qualifies as a "driving event". (Completion of one driving event is required to be eligible to win the car show.) Generally there will be tasks for your passenger to perform as well, like holding a cup of water, guiding you while you drive blindfolded, or tossing a ring onto a bottle. All three of these events are much easier if you have a navigator. If you don't already have one, it pays to ask around early and see if you can line someone up. You can even navigate for someone else in return for them navigating for you, if you want to. Good way to make new friends, or get better acquainted with people you already know. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 18:21:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A91C2C0D43 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:21:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766142C0D43 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:21:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7B0O0qk018236 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:24:00 -0400 Received: from core-mea001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mea001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.46.65]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1CA2AE000088 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:24:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Message-ID: <4bc3d.6c59c02f.3d57001f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:24:00 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 34 X-Originating-IP: [99.191.228.225] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344644640; bh=QTkahzPUYYEzyfVaEHB40zeUYhVdG9felfsmCH1HqV0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TW3kERvpT+USw1rhoNigGpE74/3x39Ov789ZqZjxZx3vCB9nb1hO82AoXrjxEEmyJ +ZAaV/ksTjaiy+1vmTq1rKzu/sEtni6uZRLPPrJBRUsYBvwVr9eJWEwvBsmf1Nt0Zn EhvAdbKy/uzt3Vioqe/rq1XLGXuFLPhEGGtk66pA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:372983904:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b5025a62000fe X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Events X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you as the driver have even a hint of competitive nature then I would suggest you stay away from all of the three listed driving events. I have seen many normally happy couples return in a decidedly sour mood because the dum dum navigator missed a turn, misread the "simple" directions, or worse yet wants to babble on about the scenery, weather, Aunt Paula's problems, etc. etc. rather than pay attention. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 10 19:10:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDAA2D027A for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:10:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35622C0D15 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:10:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 01:12:55 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.227] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 01:12:55 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.105] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 01:12:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 01:12:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 898961.92726.bm@omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 36690 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2012 01:12:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=Nnhl2LBo1G82Iu2h9a9FF6sx12fONn31vw/55Uys9oa7vS1NPf2fLYDwWIpACTARYv4cQj+42A7FttMLdjas4Xxh8R3HphGkgPIUaA0DYJv2dXtgY3/TgUbi0KpDdBn4GxrCts3lvtgmO5KYmtFRAB4KqxrV/RzyhOxTK0ogCmE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344647574; bh=gpNESTqaMu+XIFh73dGgdw+BiixUCD+aoQ2OjOL7SjI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=gJOGB2Qt9iUfMSHE+xaaH/Q/EAYcZ+Akv2KLaLmewQzbEQ+/ku1K+gBUG2/qEfg05KT4eU/9vQrTSuRct3xFT+1xxfhEwd0BZrBHUxeN2s05cv1SKEVd48UGs0jeBgFTYNDxv3+IjqEuR3WcXaP+L2nh4e6Q6Onmw9JX//XwQU8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: bbIDXCQVM1nse6An36T3oCuFkilkN8LtUTvX1qqVsbC8KK7 YdmPwz11XpP1.Jq8xFKQhVQwtK_SdlATaYGBawzmEC_G4hM8BdEK17_NFfvF Cq4JLLH55AoBfIHZnC5rjEIp9SvvulJZmPw..BK6lxOSVNWN2NafWCixk9PM UJqkcjmKYHlUVJcSdrIcQnJPguf_I1lUvZ5gTj_iUzV6jnFWhI3C8j1YikFx SD1sMczaLRRqS0uTgLqWm7HQfkSYdGHrvymyeJHF63PVY6NuQIkxBow6lUZM m5pb_XqScFcxfzZUF6Dt.Q.zrSIKHOIhwsQLvDco_8vmLRXZzL_IBOSV3ZG0 Mghs3fXYdiH.q7wSmugUg3sIQWqMlSPFtAwsU_G_HhnQ7JlDqkP72kvtqiRa UtAyeN.htc3U442E3Iz9WlKI.BJWnOTFvjHKCl73h5FKrC83oQOq7BcO6WTA lfRW47kndAc8fM8298.97zB8uL5twSQd43qRerUSGb.tyIAxF X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2012 18:12:54 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <4bc3d.6c59c02f.3d57001f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac13V7cESfNQLSnJSO2EIbOG6qVD+QABpauQ In-Reply-To: <4bc3d.6c59c02f.3d57001f@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Events X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oh, she's going shopping. I was thinking maybe I could team up with someone there as a single. B -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Loumetelko@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 7:24 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Events If you as the driver have even a hint of competitive nature then I would suggest you stay away from all of the three listed driving events. I have seen many normally happy couples return in a decidedly sour mood because the dum dum navigator missed a turn, misread the "simple" directions, or worse yet wants to babble on about the scenery, weather, Aunt Paula's problems, etc. etc. rather than pay attention. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 08:39:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6402D027A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:39:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400A92D026E for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:39:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7BEfWGM015360; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:41:32 -0400 Received: from core-mab004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mab004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.29.13]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 14D43E000083; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: TR250Driver@aol.com Message-ID: <6223.67713ebf.3d57c91b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:41:31 -0400 (EDT) To: wbeech@flash.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [98.27.194.190] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344696092; bh=mS2z1f6v8ZsIXRPGJFZ34GIfk5jNHKzn5H1Bw9hlsRg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r7IWxgzXAYRf4Dtq9IWIvf7IQ2Y7Ko7gMe+zrOSzsPpAjzHIpVGPghw907lw5UoL1 K7dwxeR5TNRHTeGDP9Sbiy3dAcMKpbpVIFnbAVzyAawKZ41V72TCXSK6BDbH+m+O2E fz9TfOkJyK/7mFrTb9E95T66i1oWzchhbA8LJQdg= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:470324096:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50266f1c7595 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Events X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Go to the VTR website, _www.vtr.org_ (http://www.vtr.org) , and under the "Features" section click on "competition rules" where you will find the VTR Concours Rules which have descriptions of the various classes for the VTR judged Concours. Hope This Helps, Darrell In a message dated 8/10/2012 3:57:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wbeech@flash.net writes: I presume the "Modified" events are not for me as my car is stock, but what are all the different Concours Stock/Preservation/Senior class requirements? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 09:06:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83C2D029E for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:06:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF5C2D0210 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:06:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nc-71-49-180-206.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.49.180.206] helo=AdrianJonesPC) by pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1T0DJa-0002zO-00 for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:09:22 -0400 From: "Adrian Jones" To: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1300QtaMXPeKPWTnCfWP9f+B36Ow== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I also prefer the original, the walnut aftermarket look a bit gaudy, IMHO. My original however doesn't fit because it is a TR4 gearbox. Did they really change the threads or am I a klutz? Cheers! Adrian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 09:08:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823002D02AE for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:08:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192192D0210 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:08:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7BFAli0032654; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:10:47 -0400 Received: from core-dle004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dle004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.166.141]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A9576E00008A; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:10:47 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, dradlo@vjbrownco.com In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: George Haynes X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-STANDARD Received: from 72.230.233.142 by webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.86) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:10:47 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF45EA9ECE87AE-1390-56F89@webmail-d039.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [72.230.233.142] Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:10:47 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344697847; bh=jx4eWJZqO6xRC7lEnirEg0CTuj+6yud7NSwl5tQHC1k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dI/9M/FNacRbvuwXWegARbQlnM5Yxj+if+kTX0KLbW3yK8CSdh5EPgdqqSu+NiuK7 ERao4Agd5HfJ0Iwwaieghbp/pDmXsueQpMj9DM5Pn/eW1B2MOvMNXPJfBZyh88yGXD Bqu2qgwcwD7WG+WhmYv4zQrUAqzw5iKb7D1eVuG8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:441706432:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d502675f71e2f X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 Clutch Hydraulics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, A friend has a 1970 TR6 in which the clutch pedal requires an excessive amount of force to disengage the clutch. Considerably more force than other TR6's I have driven and more than my TR4A. We installed a new, stock pressure plate last winter. Could hydraulics be a fault? The early 1970 took a Master cylinder bore of .75", while later 1970's and newer took a .70" bore. Slave cylinder diameters are apparently all the same. Assuming he has an early car, would his problem be improved with use of a later, smaller bore MC? It's not fun driving his car. Could something be binding mechanically? The slave pushrod is in the center hole. Thanks for any insight and advice. George Haynes ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 09:50:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05EA2D0221 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:50:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EB12C0D35 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.221] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.123] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 125952.98573.bm@omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24465 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=B4rITCO6NdCIoB2P5ytpw8BvTr8wz5ikwaXTb4288BJRrrAdsW0aOCTPGCg8LgTMtI8uBqizv/nIOtEnz5KxKvqmBSNtxCufzXPL2F2FjN6v0mBycxizpRRL1g7JDryRjarJv7K+nVxREXSmzV+gw28NXRSSlzCGIhMqONjuYto= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344700371; bh=Svncz/K/Df2+DQlb9V6wiImemphXB/VDTbA01JEs4II=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=Ea8cvheVj64RoRndCTniKygN4+hu+sqqemkQ51JgjXcbCP9fgk3mB8nUySpM22ohnJh6q1UPmbB/zt0NL+Y9+tx5vSaALnC4wSOUhtoO5YzQOhtNosqydmF6urCaWZlRxAptXgiRyTKLpDSKCHter+BRXLJ2J5FtsAsm8SjjT2M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ux_mOWIVM1mc.lRZHYK0LNS_uJkENO45t66rRDdbu3MtfXr YyYNI.UTlRiceuq_vocLzTnAcCq_zMqXtonmZYy.SKsPK.nvuSMI0XdKxSqf kWXHi0GY0tN0YX40upSL36UCWsX6IvH9crHUBTH8.QD3bOhlSaT.wWUSa_MU SObXNv7eAiq4OIEVaJ8JWt_gg0OPHJ.NP8dd8nCYBtcrkolVKwe5SI6lpP7w jRwfj5_LNRMgnTP7UqdIw_BmPoQXQc2pZtanSWrdG6Aaf9hb7BGWvP_vQzES GacuMaaLkq9RbJ1xFsyylGPt7mW.h4rcmRseF228T9Nf4qhSMVBzc_Ddy9I3 32ZwO3dejwufnBj8E9Z8IlrC32ZP3lJKoDyJidxoSzN4aIXPbyREFL_9Smqu ao1_wt3rMZa0xKJh9lXlWLCRVmXZ7JrjnnazOddpITxEBzbUVRBJqzIDYmup oCOOrJpONJ5rp3cB9GrMCwFWssRmVsunnF4yvlp0CbUjLfecEyhy6ZDqwx6O lTAqh6AkwVzyYCkkstS7H.0SWB0yHp1SfZ.LyzPFxu5RvtrcMW5LjqXiO_rd ZUXkEdxhyBaTx0_jk X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2012 08:52:50 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Adrian Jones'" , References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:52:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1300QtaMXPeKPWTnCfWP9f+B36OwABdt3g In-Reply-To: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My knobs fit both the 3A & 3B. Maybe they used a different stalk on the TR4's? Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Jones Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:09 AM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration I also prefer the original, the walnut aftermarket look a bit gaudy, IMHO. My original however doesn't fit because it is a TR4 gearbox. Did they really change the threads or am I a klutz? Cheers! Adrian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 10:11:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C842D026A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:11:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm21-vm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A43B92D0217 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm21.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 16:13:48 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.116] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 16:13:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 16:13:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 313182.70509.bm@omp1025.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38398 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2012 16:13:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1344701628; bh=c1sGQDJJRTf6ScLdibW30dZQoHE7Pc5Uncz6bu5MxHw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i7OJGCsaMnrxW6E7PgtWT1FeIIUe/AeGkHXjPXJjmFGC63sG6sQ4yHY8uo8BqjT9za1ZwVJuhrv/6WBifWi14e2WiREIV97HtwSOx+QicgWWbtAjs3vgzwyAn1TpSagRs7lyOn3TUyis43vxOpGsDeaaNVCPr90iNbQ/nNdXtwE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xAkyeeCOt0F72zwIr57eGGoj9wKWJIX/BgjsDBFv7FvrlCuCdWXumsYijPJLh7fT1yMK3olSmiHe6YejjSE37tN8EJiaunlWmq21aHvUVVr7Uw1vxp08700UIQvqzvrToHRx3GJuwoK7QDRdiw1lnWTQPbA6xsb1ngJhIOC/iks=; X-YMail-OSG: R2RTRacVM1mrQ9YWX4dkFxWw2AKsw3ke3r.F8Ta19wn1TmB ciHEdwGUI_gtI75XRQv1ojVmctlni08dNCFyBKAfgh2cwOjFUkOWhK9Vj1r2 1f77PLDZ0qmK88DUFcNOjM8ZWinrdapCReSM2bqwcpERJXGi4Hh8s92rIy5H 0pyKq8tsOQGmKketqwsJXZoqOtT3jwFbQvHKJYav8Y3l6.hl1CQSkRlLwWNQ 5C3IT_Nzc8_UV1PFk2WB4NMw0h3aMsFpZ2CsgrocXFxJPhbXIoy9zd9Nw_sB W406EkxkCa576JU_INWc7Enuw0JdsNoqLiYNnwztFIQi8ifaWOes2mSF8SPy IOTRUm6ERXBvhWmjcb4CZvr1s82fJcWZX_hXrRzWzYj0WSfxh29QuOAlco7t P0yA- Received: from [90.199.100.126] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:13:48 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> Message-ID: <1344701628.11906.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:13:48 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Could have been round about the time that Standard-Triumph found itself buying paint by the litre and upholstery by the meter, so decided to use threads that were a halfway house between metric and unified - with the result that nothing fitted as heretofore? :) Jonmac ________________________________ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 10:21:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174252D0232 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:21:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862EF2D021D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lSd91j0011ap0As51UNoaA; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:22:48 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lUP51j0082xV5no3iUP5J6; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:23:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:22:48 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: triumph list Message-ID: <1506036868.449482.1344702168307.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1344701628.11906.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:76.125.165.36] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, B Every TR3, including A and B, that I've ever seen had a straight shift lever with extra fine threads. Every TR4 had a shift lever with a bend in it, and coarse threads. The levers are interchangeable up to the time Triumph elected to fore go the bolt that passes through the casting and the shift lever. B Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 10:52:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E9A2D027A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:52:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5DE2D0210 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lTQX1j0010lTkoCABUoCok; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:48:12 +0000 Received: from samsung2.seven.com ([208.87.203.24]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lUo11j00T0Y5prC8QUo3jV; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:48:10 +0000 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "staffel@comcast.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1952529130.8059.1344703690075.JavaMail.seven@ap0.p0.sjc.7sys.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html Cc: staffel@comcast.net Subject: [TR] TR knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXXW9Lyv0: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 11:38:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6B12D0283 for ; 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11 Aug 2012 10:39:43 -0700 PDT References: <1506036868.449482.1344702168307.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1506036868.449482.1344702168307.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <473C59D8-A662-4F1E-A3E1-22C1856F1C19@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:40:38 -0500 To: "fogbro1@comcast.net" Cc: triumph list Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, both of mine are straight. Sent from mobile Bill On Aug 11, 2012, at 11:22 AM, fogbro1@comcast.net wrote: > List, > > B > > Every TR3, including A and B, that I've ever seen had a straight shift lever > with extra fine threads. Every TR4 had a shift lever with a bend in it, and > coarse threads. The levers are interchangeable up to the time Triumph elected > to fore go the bolt that passes through the casting and the shift lever. > > B > > Ed Woods > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 11:40:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926E62D026C for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:40:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6D62D026A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so5331251pbb.14 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:42:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2N6T/H+3MlKfFuHAxYoScYRKRk41hZckSRDWqvEj07s=; b=FLRwiBXye1KtJtcYZj77wHimI+aGeUloizKeN6424ifW/1Rzod8X0hoDUJmeprN95M tCfn3FMIvjxA1BxilsG+v56J8R6a86563fcnzs7+xhwqaK9qSzqxTu2AreEE1HyYwt5C JqGQWtX6ITi4ZwIbG4M12pUwZj43OWQS9oYvdpyqi0rV2nUD5Dy6AKucE/1krecc2wkv I7ZNW487D2nzN7Q9y7DCtZvkyqKMhDScKcpqLf30P9GLRHo1bK173rJwaIpXSI/zg6Zh Tmf05T8Mj8YX0P5+p24iMhIy7YaXtUjc7j0LawawPkAWzo1ve/WJDCGHvljXE2Rb2uUN 2bNg== Received: by 10.68.216.130 with SMTP id oq2mr21661253pbc.128.1344706979611; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-46-107.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.46.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oa5sm1751437pbb.14.2012.08.11.10.42.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:42:56 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/11/12 8:52 AM, Wbeech wrote: > My knobs fit both the 3A & 3B. Maybe they used a different stalk on the > TR4's? > Yep. That's why I kept my TR3 shift lever when I swapped my TR3 over to a TR4 overdrive gearbox. No clearance issues. The TR3 lever fits a TR4 box. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 11:46:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D82D029E for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:46:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C72D01D8 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:46:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1670112lbo.14 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rFcz4+SYt4uceCxBKPnHN5oAU5jdbF/XwzlrUKIt8KQ=; b=uO5jNFKBjh+ysmwMJy/A60ZoSZ752Q0TOqRsRo2cz/929yMFvDcE0mWgwrIgAUIYDX kY5i59SR09RiDuaAVe6TzBTqKwALMHpcvNG0q4dZdZ83D98tK+yLSfOP4kGlryvkb3oN FJYQC8oostCUYGCBCcW8PkVmjkKhC566tQsHb1SMHQPVMHxkxe1dwxyjayHm/E8tDv6a I4pWrJKNWvAbnPnASdywDntcA0P38m9GB1zvjwUC3kclc33n+IpT9zbvqrV0VA84vosg QL+8wdyfxk8Fu4ocQv8VVAXTEMJOQk+PPTg757gs3N3x3RqCeHmUiHAr0pb3y9epexp0 Dybw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.109.198 with SMTP id hu6mr6627105lab.21.1344707355525; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:49:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ... and a typical TR3B -- all of them for all I know, and certainly my April 1962 TSF -- had a "rationalized" (TR4) gearbox right from the start. This was the same full-synchro box that debuted a few months earlier in the TR4, but with a one-piece TR3-style shift lever. Don On 8/11/12, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 8/11/12 8:52 AM, Wbeech wrote: >> My knobs fit both the 3A & 3B. Maybe they used a different stalk on the >> TR4's? >> > Yep. That's why I kept my TR3 shift lever when I swapped my TR3 over to > a TR4 overdrive gearbox. No clearance issues. The TR3 lever fits a TR4 > box. > > TeriAnn > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 12:57:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB21F2D0274 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:57:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBDA2D0232 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 595295.57636.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29327 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1344711433; bh=TQ8Cfquty/WGprlVI6kUKVGlKDNV1kZnyptUWkT8Ws0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rRtw58tPlOoT6yFrYI/hCtyDDumvia0xkIeYNwICNPk0J4X4cWnXG3TV1x4GP6cdy8GRwnE5cRg4AWge0DWIqO9HIZdJblGJSSxqQUbyfC8bEcHUjow4pEkNoafKoPIttd4dcQF630SV6M5ltEU8IIZnj8y3gh6R8Pn75OdIeNQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TgOG+K/P9cHt9HpwipU8LFyjQLDhM7c25kvcK611i5yRTjWH7y2aZrhUE03XbkLUexY7QUaRcKkmKkGlYLT5reAF3M6n9aiLgL8mOrJtwPbTOUBEonMemYCM2q69OYJzKJhXsMVeH0uLpIJI7SK7cfVI07i4CDehpy/ovB2ceCE=; X-YMail-OSG: AdmsuwsVM1kQcvwmKT5qU0S_qEwHhcJyWRaIYbvSFXem0Vn 1mob7TGmtsv5vEsQaJC0OOd.GyZHsECtmt.W.OAx0USAukqyJP.HNAKET5cJ 9C2R6WTRke2Y01FQLGIvlMgfk8Ke7ONMObxyWffL3CdOQdw4zmPzegyRqVKQ _BLG2Egm_q1eRE8xD87.Wo2Gu33489mWZ5c.OoiE..hoLfSWsNO0yqcFftu3 2Ca30PiLNF8P94VfPXzhHrzB4bH29joHfANh1aMDw9WbFkMVsuCRib_CR9yZ nLKUe5PnDqqSi4NMyRY97dXJQ_2jU0jW895HzATiTWDnO9BG0ItJHU5Ie4kg uRwoJ3cXsVVi87qxMZBD3D76yz1T63jWdM_7_dTCjdKUHpPqk1WOYLEyJw0i lGt8mJDg.Z96QFL9jZWN.uEZPbzk6HCnp8LoylhLGjrbGfXzNzdaXvz35uYZ DOA-- Received: from [69.110.214.15] by web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:57:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344711433.17827.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: "adrianjones747@earthlink.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had the same problem. I had a cranked TR4 stick shift and the TR3 knob had the wrong threads. I machined a threaded adapter at the time. I have since switched to the correct TR3 stick and may still have the threaded adapter still lying around in my shop if you still need it. The TR3 takes a long tapered knob and the TR4 had I round knob ISTR. -Bill Brewer - Tehachapi Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:09:13 -0400 From: "Adrian Jones" To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration Message-ID: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I also prefer the original, the walnut aftermarket look a bit gaudy, IMHO. My original however doesn't fit because it is a TR4 gearbox. Did they really change the threads or am I a klutz? Cheers! Adrian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 14:45:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2912D028D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:45:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB5D2D026A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail62-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.251) by AM1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.3.204.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:47:04 +0000 Received: from mail62-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail62-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B5616007B for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:47:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: VPS0(zzzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1155h) Received: from mail62-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail62-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1344718022433036_5277; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.250]) by mail62-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677C812005D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (10.3.207.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:47:02 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id D58ED68006 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:47:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A02C2CD1AD7; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:47:01 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2B868006 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:47:01 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:46:44 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:47:00 +0100 Thread-Topic: Next Question Thread-Index: AQHNeAJq5OUt2FFgA0iMUw9Uheot0w== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A12C2CD1AD7 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] Next Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Had a good look at the front suspension, the only thing I found was loose stub axle front nut, anyway as often noticed something else to baffle me. Why might the overflow pipe from the petrol tank be dripping even though the tank is only half full, is this a vacuum issue? BTW had a great drive into the Dublin mountains, top down, wind in what is laft of my hair and sun, yes sun, in my face, so this is what it is all about! John '54 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 15:17:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13102D0292 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:17:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BC502D0281 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 21:19:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.57] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 21:19:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 21:19:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344719984; bh=d/FaDw2sddc1rxr73WHxiKiuYbcgPwqbVRZWpqKgOok=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=t8qpArZv6Vk6c9Hvy4x6wxuq4m5CpG2E7CCc9FeYmluh8oZXO1zy2EUEJFG/3lAq0nWzETUZi8JGMk83IKrRotaL13DBAV7O57LMQSpL4Sp5UAznL3ZS1syRNIxvT6ldnsxgpixTfQNAiqizBMDresN+aTv1EuTT4Orj7MTG/XE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 16476.21372.bm@smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: VDYhKX4VM1m.UJt7Z5O2Jfin8djcGHQvL2Eg0KdbZhHDAnZ w__p9uTRm2NxEHw9xpc.xAb0QMthPjJ2if9jQzUY8Ugf2B2jPHC7P2jUKkgl 1FEEPYFz.SZdPLmZj5IW1jRp1LDgNg0Q7gJJmcUI0WZkLBz1flNIiaw6ZfQm a9I.Pvf.2lxst5MEnuYk.Y1_hCjJvov.6YF37pwAuCnX5t4wwHwYcqhtlGZr KQAWx41u6yOB_XpvOqhuF1hAOwoqRurPzbt.4ZKzzLbJx8GXTzjQozsJMV4O fv.G__z7r4al0kAtIDsNdGDCeO9Dx55_0OnUjn4YKln_Vx_4zoMBDAS4WUyo SWZDon6CeuexNWuKS.pYZqpLJ8TNn1tErTtQNXy2dF4Di1OcSft24u9Rf1lC eTBiS6.v99ClyW4obj5DrSSghA2IZF3vckaNTr2dOak8RUmXl7Cv4dSFsf99 yBl0E0tncU4nBTHtE_4RmoniUY7sXUHQzdMhT00dmfrvYXhtKjqtAVzdWyYi Vc1hyel7wEaDPYLs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [192.168.1.102] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2012 14:19:43 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:20:41 -0500 To: John Gillis Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Next Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The vent comes from the top of the tank, maybe a little spirited mountain driving (Wicklow?) sloshed some out. I can tell you finally enjoying what you a have spent 15 years preparing for. Enjoy! Sent from mobile Bill On Aug 11, 2012, at 3:47 PM, John Gillis wrote: > Had a good look at the front suspension, the only thing I found was loose stub > axle front nut, anyway as often noticed something else to baffle me. Why might > the overflow pipe from the petrol tank be dripping even though the tank is > only half full, is this a vacuum issue? BTW had a great drive into the Dublin > mountains, top down, wind in what is laft of my hair and sun, yes sun, in my > face, so this is what it is all about! > John > '54 TR2 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 15:35:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5472D029A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:35:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD0C2D0272 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 184A22004952C for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E3C6BE000090 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:37:51 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344721072; bh=ldIWTRJ3z8jyrCizwjWvH4TgFgjr4uPSToxxyrohL80=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R/JYixTLHl/cdtjd/faad9AxuNzryFNdqqRLkagMnyFDm56/i0nrbeo56I5yFwIMq KJTCf0JBEprBQRyYF7VVYcw0Upb1uqQKCtplhLGqvTNBIblrmTd7YJ2+BqMzFWxI7B CocDnQ0jM+ASTy3bzSHkGrUUldCUf01g6dJchluw= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:464202784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc5026d0af6427 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Clutch Hydraulics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The TR6 was notorious for the heavy clutch. Puts hair on your chest, they would say. There are two brands of clutch available for the TR6 and one is heavier than the other. I forget which (maybe someone here can fill in the blanks) but it sounds like your firend got the heavier one. The first time I replaced the clutch in my TR6 I got lucky (or good advice perhaps it was a long time ago) and when I first hooked up the hydraulics and pushed the clutch pedal I though something was amiss. Be verifying that the output flange turned free of the engine in gear with the pedal depressed proved that it did indeed work. If there was something wrong with the hydraulics or the mechanical linkage then the pressure need to depress the clutch would be noticably greater than the pressure needed to resist its return upon release. Do you notice this? Dave In a message dated 8/11/2012 10:11:00 AM Central Daylight Time, ghaynestr4@aol.com writes: > Listers, > A friend has a 1970 TR6 in which the clutch pedal requires an excessive > amount > of force to disengage the clutch. Considerably more force than other > TR6's I > have driven and more than my TR4A. We installed a new, stock pressure > plate > last winter. > > Could hydraulics be a fault? The early 1970 took a Master cylinder bore > of > .75", while later 1970's and newer took a .70" bore. Slave cylinder > diameters > are apparently all the same. > Assuming he has an early car, would his problem be improved with use of a > later, smaller bore MC? > > It's not fun driving his car. Could something be binding mechanically? > The > slave pushrod is in the center hole. > Thanks for any insight and advice. > George Haynes ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 15:47:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB00F2D0288 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:47:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F092D0214 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:41:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vmZy8QJdYSZbaboLIPYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CB/3B-28917-042D6205; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:44:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:44:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1c7801cd780a$7eaaeef0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac1300QtaMXPeKPWTnCfWP9f+B36OwABdt3gAAxC89A= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Maybe they used a different > stalk on the > TR4's? Yup. And although the threads remained the same, there were several different shift levers after that point as well. The Stag is even worse, the shift lever, threads and knob are all different depending on whether you have overdrive or not! (and different again with the automatic) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 15:50:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D832D0274 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:50:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B752C0D1A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:50:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Kb6lsUEiRfr1zrLGKKMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 71/6E-17657-854D6205; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:53:28 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Triumphs List'" References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net><50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:53:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1c7a01cd780b$be1c6e00$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac13P014bH50MoUHQjaWFbo6TaYvvQAy/D1A Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I have what I believe is one of the original TR knobs as well as the > modern rubber version. Any chance you could post a photo somewhere? I'm kind of curious, as I believe my TR3 is wearing it's original hard rubber knob. The pattern is worn away (I think), but it otherwise appears to be similar to the repro that TRF was selling at VTR/TRfest. > There may be early and late versions of the original TR2-3B knobs -- > smarter folk than I will have to chime in here. The SPC lists 3 different knobs (one of them being for the early 2-piece shift lever). Unfortunately there is no change point given for the third knob (at least not in my copy). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 16:02:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA1E2D02A1 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:02:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1C22D0272 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:58:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YtrEDa3anmVLqxaBmycA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AA/04-28917-026D6205; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:01:05 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:01:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1c7b01cd780c$ce4f0c00$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac136NAJ8lz0dnmGQA6w4iQi/bNbbAAIwyrA Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Yep. That's why I kept my TR3 shift lever when I swapped my > TR3 over to > a TR4 overdrive gearbox. No clearance issues. I took the other approach, my TR6 gearbox is wearing a TR3 top cover. That way I got to keep the dipstick. But a previous TR3A had a TR4 box with TR4 lever, and I don't recall having any clearance problems with it, either. The lever was taller, but cranked backwards at an angle so it wouldn't quite go far enough forward to hit the dash. I even had a push-pull switch for the OD tie-wrapped to the top of the lever, so I could move the switch with my middle & ring fingers while simultaneously shifting gears. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 16:25:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6D12C07F7 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:25:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com (mail-yx0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CB82D026A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yenl1 with SMTP id l1so2962210yen.14 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7l3/6oUJOHrY78MZMPxQciDDKHZSMeRX0U01mznlprs=; b=x5N7gCpNhoNsbR73gzB57DMhRMIh9zLLREFdn3BX5K00t62Jgvq5amNxMAgiKaoVGs EjBnDzQjbUw2bGmLgSH25eixtRimYs/P7Js/aqK6ymT0oxG3xQ+hqkTc8qlQ67MjrK5p sJyQsT4WXDTeWckpF9+LON2/RFQMDWxw4baxmsKmhttwGazAunJZR0vxpoxa+EkinXsO P3P+1UEhG5hiRG9A3P7iSh7T/jye66NAU+eMvievPRywamxA2b22UL9CS2O8XRL9DIlU d7EU2cOZN8yqjOiwlH35GjKFb+eu9vRmPxzKrE4YRI7V5chaLUQEJZM6eW+/mldPgMBK gwNg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.196.197 with SMTP id io5mr1830694igc.20.1344724099734; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.62.197 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:28:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1c7b01cd780c$ce4f0c00$0601a8c0@randall> References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> <502699A0.8040308@gmail.com> <1c7b01cd780c$ce4f0c00$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:28:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Randall wrote: > But a previous TR3A had a TR4 box with TR4 lever, and I don't recall having > any clearance problems with it, either. I think a TR3 lever in a TR4 is the one that would be a knuckle-buster. > ...I even had a push-pull switch for the OD tie-wrapped to the top of > the lever, so I could move the switch with my middle & ring fingers while > simultaneously shifting gears. > Handy, but I need to keep my middle finger available for other driving duties. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 17:04:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448682D0290 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:04:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C462D027A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:59:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=VrDTQrU0gjponuZtWAkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:50922] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 45/AE-13948-C64E6205; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:02:05 +0000 Message-ID: <5026E470.3010202@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:02:08 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave1massey@cs.com, Triumphs List References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Clutch Hydraulics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, I got my 6 out of the garage today since it is her turn for the driving season. So now I can comment on your 6 clutch issues. Here are my comments on clutches on the 3, 4 and 6; The 3 is the best by far. Easy pedal and normal engagement. Smooth and easy on the foot. The 4 is by far the hardest push. Release is at almost to the floor. I have checked everything and that is the best I can get it. The 6 is right in the middle. Engagement is about the same as the 3 but the pedal is a bit harder to push. As you can guess, the 3 is my favorite as far as clutches are but my favorite drive is the 4. Clutches were all new from TRF when installed. No problems with MC or SC in either. Rebuilt original equipment. So, I agree the 6 is a harder push when compared to the 3. A 70 bore would give you better pressure but less throw. Since my 6 is a 72 I am guessing I have the .075 bore. For my 2 cents, as long as they work and dont leak, I am happy. When the bury me, maybe my left leg will be bigger than my right. Bob On 08/11/2012 05:37 PM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > The TR6 was notorious for the heavy clutch. Puts hair on your chest, they > would say. There are two brands of clutch available for the TR6 and one is > heavier than the other. I forget which (maybe someone here can fill in the > blanks) but it sounds like your firend got the heavier one. The first time > I replaced the clutch in my TR6 I got lucky (or good advice perhaps it was a > long time ago) and when I first hooked up the hydraulics and pushed the > clutch pedal I though something was amiss. Be verifying that the output flange > turned free of the engine in gear with the pedal depressed proved that it > did indeed work. > > If there was something wrong with the hydraulics or the mechanical linkage > then the pressure need to depress the clutch would be noticably greater than > the pressure needed to resist its return upon release. Do you notice this? > > Dave > > In a message dated 8/11/2012 10:11:00 AM Central Daylight Time, > ghaynestr4@aol.com writes: >> Listers, >> A friend has a 1970 TR6 in which the clutch pedal requires an excessive >> amount >> of force to disengage the clutch. Considerably more force than other >> TR6's I >> have driven and more than my TR4A. We installed a new, stock pressure >> plate >> last winter. >> >> Could hydraulics be a fault? The early 1970 took a Master cylinder bore >> of >> .75", while later 1970's and newer took a .70" bore. Slave cylinder >> diameters >> are apparently all the same. >> Assuming he has an early car, would his problem be improved with use of a >> later, smaller bore MC? >> >> It's not fun driving his car. Could something be binding mechanically? >> The >> slave pushrod is in the center hole. >> Thanks for any insight and advice. >> George Haynes ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 17:09:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CF22D02AE for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:09:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B382D0274 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lU6J1j00D1GXsucABbCGSU; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:12:16 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([67.187.140.79]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lbCB1j0071iyodP8UbCFVm; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:12:16 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:12:11 -0700 References: <4FA3EFA4-00DF-4140-AE38-A5B48A7E271F@comcast.net> To: TR3/6 Message-Id: <66B976D6-6AAE-4231-B851-43FAD6262DD4@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Cosmic Laws X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just so you don't forget b& COSMIC LAWS Truer words were never spoken.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- 1. Law of Mechanical Repair - After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch and you'll have to pee... 2. Law of Gravity - Any tool, nut, bolt, screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the universe. "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 17:20:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4889F2D02A3 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:20:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4985C2D027A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.196] by nm17.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 23:20:36 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.225] by tm9.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 23:20:36 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.122] by t6.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 23:20:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2012 23:20:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 787223.7916.bm@omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20193 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2012 23:20:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=yY5vVZbvrVGeIdbI6+W2KyVOYVMir6qLCNfBPZEqob7HPMvQaKclfvqqYDNoKdE0VUr9+SADa+6VhC6G2DHdkzE15WzFA3P5XqolN3cpcfH9c+yxmfRsiD+6oWK/1hEg+FO4DgGbldrPLhsPWJvoTx68gxEndklotQ6F+i6RdL0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344727236; bh=Ztd0R7oWwwM4axXnBIhiQg+5PnJ1hnaQmwsWkgupf8Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=HIO8+5O7AUF4pzzyVB6fveI8pFyukK0WWyS/AgvGT8M1xEXZGWX7U/jcahYF0t8FEh2FkxC5+AfKKzpf/3IeeUqWK3wDeOUgZ4lZLGoF40aQbfBHezC8HkF9a6empS9C9AeuTAP1r0GQfnz0lmnWn5LjfXNBF6RSl9qMcFU2MrY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: LeIT0pkVM1lZZAlUvBSLm5.mGM6UvJ6aBR8.Roh1DW9VNf. 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As soon as I spend $15 for a new one it WILL turn up. Bill B -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Pugh Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:12 PM To: TR3/6 Subject: [TR] Cosmic Laws Just so you don't forget b& COSMIC LAWS Truer words were never spoken.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------- 1. Law of Mechanical Repair - After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch and you'll have to pee... 2. Law of Gravity - Any tool, nut, bolt, screw, when dropped, will roll to the least accessible place in the universe. "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 17:35:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA652C0B38 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:35:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14BA2C0D43 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:33:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B3D2E02F for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5026ECC0.9030402@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:37:36 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <4FA3EFA4-00DF-4140-AE38-A5B48A7E271F@comcast.net> <66B976D6-6AAE-4231-B851-43FAD6262DD4@comcast.net> <89F3F694078648B6BA9271262842706D@bboffice> In-Reply-To: <89F3F694078648B6BA9271262842706D@bboffice> Subject: Re: [TR] Cosmic Laws X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wbeech wrote: > Yep #2, I dropped the generator mounting pedestal on Monday, haven't found > it yet. As soon as I spend $15 for a new one it WILL turn up. > Indeed. As soon as you set the newly purchased replacement tool or part or whatever on the workbench, the old missing one will jump right up next to it. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 11 21:16:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE0E2D0210 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:16:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4D82D027A for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:13:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so3280498vbk.14 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lw+ZgOph7RZXNchjoD0q1g1YYXMU9nrspuhjm15Qvqw=; b=c0Hcsf/V0hSFHlhF4lrDQ1VhJLoDCPbfwm9CtnWRj9ua68CcMf86u5J4vtfrCI8NqV OaPMxLXA5bK9mCr9ddSersXrwXVsDttaWSfcUA9gJxT5bRhTvHIqnUC1hgK/opcDKHba TzTsG9aqu3WMWF73+RW/DkvrV8jbxMFhdXZAa67tjS9GrhD2ysZkGDErwUEJKJovHBMk dqcGEkZvaxoR/Ugvpd9BvxkEgR7sww7QVXGzC/6SCWt/tH94rAtcO+uuMK0yFYIR7SqV 8RQtpM3BSiz1eyCyE+XdymY9SziuVaFhVqJA0k95+grumlR7ISbdkcpDHkjRRdC8+n8+ U4Yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.156.46 with SMTP id wb14mr2961433vdb.30.1344741342730; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.26.135 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:15:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] uh oh - reassembled the GT6 gearbox and there is too much axial play X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greeting all: I am in the process of refreshening my early GT6 gearbox. I did all the gap / tolerance checks per the Bently manual. Between the split ring and the miserable 3rd gear circlip the main shaft asm is in tolerance. From the split rings rearward to first gear the axial gap is 0.001 out of tolerance (spec is 0.00 to 0.002) - no big deal. But when I asm the main shaft in the gear box housing, there appears to be an excessive gap of approx 0.150 between the 3-4 shift hub and 4th gear. First pic is of the main main shaft asm in the housing: http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/aribert/Triumph/GT6gearboxreassembly.jpg THe second picture is a composit of where the gap is and how it looks when sliding the 4th gear synchro back and forth. I am convinced that the problem is not on the mainshaft from the 3rd gear circlip to the split washers to the rear mainshaft bearing (I have had all the bushings and thrust washers on the shaft to check the axial play). I don't have any pcs left over and the mainshaft bearings are fully seated in the gearbox housing. I'm lost on this - I know the 4th gear synchro can not have 0.150+ of axial play - it would get chewed up. Your thoughts? The big TR gear boxes apprears to be a scaled up version of the Spit/GT6 boxes - so throw me some ideas of things to investigate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 02:08:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9312D02A2 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:08:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 964E62D01C2 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:04:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 08:07:14 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.243] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 08:07:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 08:07:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 657940.90046.bm@omp1008.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64298 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2012 08:07:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1344758834; bh=x/2MZPX6mLg5JUm4+JCqlS+gylyXlofpwLbhL2lB2UM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nmtx2qHpXrk4vgaf2/7M9tcY+dxevqcrvjKScnKVolaQg9IvY2ZFr+U3JYyBYlnNqN0/QJ1U48rHBozzEDM71wM6BeWeVKg+WLz/2erqU72gnCIWoFb4tTcca51hl/G44BIVqG39GaSTgSunrrViyGGlrZgWbJ/dUGd1uHjCuR8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DosRuafi/8wXahnexyDbn+VpvJq0Bq6uSxrGCBOLmRVq1Gy3TQjmTbVERUpzS01RBOQh+oD+n09L2ctV38BagRbr1blJYrGmeij6TNw4Tx+QF8oidm7DulqTeAoPzO5bK7ixRSGscXZq5U9o1E/6ARXAQFy6M1lqAtWi31NolYs=; X-YMail-OSG: cClCpBgVM1mVmulmC9aTPwb75bjmnWg93Qnhmw0hBxRxyu9 HJIuuazg6SkTgwG6OYF.zWILvE1OsgjM6eo3y3KkqevXvIuqrd3jDdjkbCxf 2VDR5lT7UPBnINft.zDB.LgmBq4FFv66tdr14nHT2apEsj3XSBc5jBWAWYJJ CE427dGJshJhWvWQYuFXrKSoLII_YxKU3OIlcMVsOLOy72ttzaWdHls0yKXK aRKO5fj.37k70BSIid0FivXY2frPaJw0rHMTtEt_KS6jUX0DCUDiWjzdQSqz Qoy5eS4f9FdTzp.KVQsC1_6B0vDlQ.5RmbKqmXOUX.RGfPIVVaKzYim4eVzR qlVP6OnkFar6pSCZmmFJT3XXelNOKUH0.il3XFHn3jpzHSCYX_vJRkyzLiED fPxem7ugp5EJjanf97K7H1m3iLfJK1At4HB.ptRtcvKezJS1vU7MpZ3iZynq Y Received: from [90.199.100.192] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 09:07:14 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <000001cd77d3$446dbe20$cd493a60$@net> <1c7801cd780a$7eaaeef0$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1344758834.44569.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 09:07:14 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Randall , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <1c7801cd780a$7eaaeef0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall wrote: The Stag is even worse, the shift lever, threads and knob are all different depending on whether you have overdrive or not! (and different again with the automatic) Which puts Stag gear lever types in common with 2500S, 2000 and the whole Dolomite range - Sprint, 1850 and 1500 rwd. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Randall To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 22:44 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration >> Maybe they used a different >> stalk on the >> TR4's? > >Yup. And although the threads remained the same, there were several >different shift levers after that point as well. > >The Stag is even worse, the shift lever, threads and knob are all different >depending on whether you have overdrive or not! (and different again with >the automatic) > >-- Randall > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 09:14:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050C2D02C9 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 09:14:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.192]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 39A862D02A9 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 09:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.230] by nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 15:16:42 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.237] by tm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 15:16:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 15:16:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 506081.51496.bm@omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42878 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2012 15:16:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1344784602; bh=Z98cWieVZeAlGWpgi0O6MxyVvmdZuO7pjL7VR1voJAc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q3PPrH9CrN2hO4WtTJpWRaC5SeRJzxzbBBrcTLVpBXOPdAZj1t9KelT7sbNNTQ8iq8A3uyf4jSLlzmpSOqxSQEKfhM9d+Is8QL3YshQJoieuzZZL9kegBowwdbVLY3J82DgphgXwEEcm7l3RJQzw3tnyGQelnXIbS4XAUZ/Q9pE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1YAMLaHF+sikzrROB+gluw25E5axgVjolzbY04wx3tTv9V4bgIQ0fuzOIY5WGiNgWdOnRR3rI6Wyf/2gRbLo7O3PTkznSHw5TeM11A1/ZQQkM3sBbN4A+8+eQfIaDNV7xdQaF2y3+s6obv7rPbJsYZ8Qh/kCR3/EcwgaekLsY54=; X-YMail-OSG: IBC589IVM1miUzsZ2pbaxqlyRRq_rwElzpohM01mplLCoSr AMpvTtyc_20oPG5rTV9HmSXTLqu.nbuVL3s9AnAdsaf2AJ6oOw8qGPlg0bhi rLQH3732f7vXB8gr.2m6f66rGbgx6W1RUnDbC_1JeSRmQSMwA7EnjRUNqrLj qCVJD_eS1hpltbQFJwdV8.C_S0aNptuBiBrM2X7JM43h.CoAr5yze2QSoXlN WjvfxEQJag8wGtzcVKcpeyr162rOIHzv2KOSE1XWFHsyiTTPT4BjSGQeOpaL 6aMOi6CUD1j.9xmFflaPI7sA7tZmS1jqWQ.QsrsFms9sFXc2q_dO9s8MKZuT GrIHFve3H_bSYMEdctdMVAP1LdOXYMnaING383C2ycpTeMr6iQsBurWPBaAZ l6mWYU1A- Received: from [90.199.100.192] by web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:16:42 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344784602.16465.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:16:42 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A REAL Triumph up for grabs! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Now this really would be worth owning! A *real* Triumph - and not a lot of money for what it is. See Ebay 230837504027 Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 11:16:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CC42D02CD for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:16:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8602D0210 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:16:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=3Ls6uuv4IVHWRfImMQIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:53880] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 69/E6-29356-E75E7205; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5027E584.8040409@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:19:00 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Clutch Hydraulics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, While I was out for a ride today, I thought of another possible cause to the hard push on the TR6 clutch. Problem may be that the transmission was not aligned with the engine when installed. You must make sure the 2 larger bolts are installed first before installing the rest of the bolts to the transmission. If I remember correctly they are on the left and right sides respectively. On some engines, they might be a stud. But on mine they were bolts. This is very important. The clutch may be binding against the fly wheel if the alignment is off. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 14:04:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F182D02FC for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:04:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ED42D02EA for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.106] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 668063.24177.bm@omp1011.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 9962 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=lQlB5n+VMu3aAUAFaZbpn36Plx8tHSjZrdOqvPJnA+Nbd/Lu2Gt7hVHW2MzI5Wwn3E/0LdYSKND/57EEwlEkyJoP7PYBIl+1GESdUDClAe6kbQe3kO47StVYl0yiS8pR4JGPn5zdUPb2lzphrUHv8QENbTh6OwiH740n0kkqGxY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344801678; bh=tLvtOZ+JRq8WOT1emlIJv7xrcl3E/MI82MYwrif5hCc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=K8+80YVT43HhKUjKGY6dSMPsHqDWd26pJgo8gzQzgyThG4QKm2w9XdMVfJo1B1ihMke+Q/zDADDzUF93AjNINCWZQx5IYSZ9hu1NQ3C2OzGBUZeCte7e+EiNNh9QCT+k+oh2uG8n/iJ1+FMnY1MXwXei9zjWZIXBaAHdqqafsjY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: l4mLO1oVM1miInNv42wttmIULv44hA271MGTV7HgZxPVWoy ZGASx2DpNHThZjZRiTT5clqxwu_fZQ.dSr99OVD40WGImOY.C5XMJB8.Tp1E iuMma0q2vWcuGMUW4qayPMj7OBGQ.crjGV6w4rwU506.mPAXwNgxgdiJTbvy b9vZjYe6EfmCOzTsfwGE2IDuGCAQF7zDYgzg7GZ7Jj26d8b8K_AmQkT1CHSr 9jLc6ci7zH9tXnSlr.TT1Z0kU7PEHfLvMmdfeNe4TgotnkMieNV4DS3MyDUG FWpgwpTftLsiI8MFUp4jWuhpEq1kEc6nDYaptlyGBAPzCqR1JzfzfiFkiubN I2ohFilf8Bzf31V2VpllHjU5jMILsmki9NfQXm4ofVt3HaljCYIQo5rmx5aG NIdDI0LpSgkXzhC1OCfVW2tKN_yvxQQCYAFfbJZ1VwXy2c_A1aAUq0EqvdZU KnS7pAcTPEBKYz8leeWpw2yiVsDikUWVldQfylfn2XCw_1NuCdrcIuDP7wSh XAofB_tsK X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2012 20:01:18 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: "'John Macartney'" , "'Triumph List'" References: <1344784602.16465.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:01:05 -0500 Message-ID: <2AE0EAF6E6994A40B660E520D495F10F@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1344784602.16465.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac14nZ4FHh99bNgTQ4m3QgeTiM1X1gAJgd4g Subject: Re: [TR] A REAL Triumph up for grabs! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes John, You need to give this car a home and the restoration expertise that it needs. Very nice car, if it were on US soil I would have to go see it. Notice the VIN plate, has the Logo that Triumph Motorcycles use still today. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Macartney Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:17 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] A REAL Triumph up for grabs! Now this really would be worth owning! A *real* Triumph - and not a lot of money for what it is. See Ebay 230837504027 Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 16:09:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F12D030E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:09:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B70682D02F0 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 22:05:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 22:05:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Aug 2012 22:05:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 990367.81438.bm@omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28849 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2012 22:05:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1344809152; bh=AL86XFFX+WWxKoLZNwoNZZgmJCtc0RuMror/FprytsQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hSeFSVJTXInjasTZ8Ajg6pWMZCvu+FpK6x3RFAiZUK8zDRpV5vIa67RJORWJhr1mPxAqj8vITmgZCYUimxomggtZSd7XzV+gi4gBWPP8Df2ToZrgWBqJ2PlaR98KlqNRZ7+0iS60rxLkJmvSyHg7HCnkChcg3bjsRkaDcDhm+BQ= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b3sXC99ya6IpG3JNpqiJYM0jEzH++I+Jo+oP2GFMy5/sMVa6vbMPTtC5bhHOBcDSTXx6Ac9Z0BjOm8qJjckPn5G1aVVI4qx9M4HyfDev/cP78PQTGVD/vjRu+RzMJP5r8KTiHxaQl7czMEsvhl2MJkvmgbxiw+QMDrG1imIT32U=; X-YMail-OSG: yLnbzNkVM1nVa5hE32LdfahxQMdlIJY9M93z2zp8RgQKb3r KIwC6ybErX87BuJV570YdhgnudV2OizQwkVt6IF1ZyXeTwg7TBH22V9Vvn61 K6zP72.onJlNA8HpDmnYCKqTBjHjFPcWBbShJK_3FAGemO589EzD8wW85lvm 2.3ffgQ1r2Sk_eBxze0jZpC5qij42Q8X6YkIYSFNEPfWanRkQfYSZet2_FFd nwMLVcubKsDdZu6oeIvyZZJ8W_KlmIk4nYgE3afIHZ2xdwSk4P5xOQw5iuWU 66h8utpCzddHZZs0m4XVWsHwV03FAzAEw71mgWg_jSiuu_AeTqMN0otISW25 4QBusaOAqgUELWKFDPcSCzzbawXW_jtnjXEFo4AvfZ4s6xENBAMUMogix1xu EFMAxQ5p5IWPN6ehJUzDTewHOva5G1DarFCZDfcZRdRbtoGQh78hHtxGZyhQ r61EOjt1kenHfQ4t8kSBPaIDHJ0lZpAJQ9jHdpkD9JqI- Received: from [69.234.16.174] by web184306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:05:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344809152.21594.YahooMailRC@web184306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Cairns To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] 1974 TR-6 for sale X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello fellow Triumph listers, After 34 years, the time has come for me to part with my beloved '74 TR-6. A rollover accident in which I was broadsided in my Toyota 4Runner by a red light-runner has prompted my decision - I wouldn't be here to write this if I'd been in the TR. Anyway, this is a Southern California car with the factory hardtop, purchased from the second owner in 1978 and completely restored in 1998. I've put less than 2,000 miles on her since the rebuild. I have most of the work orders/receipts detailing the rebuild. I'm asking $15,000. There is too much for me to list here, so if you're interested, please e-mail me at: cairnsbk@sbcglobal.net I will be happy to e-mail photos and speak with you if you're serious. Best regards, Bruce Cairns ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 18:04:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DA52D0314 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:04:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60462D02F3 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7D06tuc000519; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:06:55 -0400 Received: from core-mhc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.194]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4F69CE00008B; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:06:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <1344784602.16465.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <2AE0EAF6E6994A40B660E520D495F10F@bboffice> To: wbeech@flash.net, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <2AE0EAF6E6994A40B660E520D495F10F@bboffice> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-STANDARD Received: from 74.209.22.225 by webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com (205.188.59.133) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:06:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF46FEAEAE57D3-13B4-3648E@webmail-d068.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [74.209.22.225] Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:06:55 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1344816415; bh=p2pOj50wRkiFgczD6jwefg6linrCi+kQ8J5uwIYqw9o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BenbapfQUDJJp28F52fbnrsnL0A7DAdsh407igTVmeo9GRkzIAdeuwmDKiis/CU3Q /61UOP3mF5jKwGCk4aIscq3qdiSTwJ47rcuW3jo+HUqGwgLEo1/c23rLkG4saVLhX/ 0KhiMgDVcTjlBEUVBnxISNrqzKshgEgzd0giV2AI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:444187488:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 2 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29085028451f2a1b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] A REAL Triumph up for grabs! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When that car was built, it was all still the same company (even including the bicycles, I think)! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Wbeech Subject: Re: [TR] A REAL Triumph up for grabs! Notice the VIN plate, has the Logo that Triumph Motorcycles use still today. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 19:14:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBBA2D02FD for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:14:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EDF2D02FD for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.196] by nm18.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 01:11:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.160] by tm9.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 01:11:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 01:11:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 750193.5809.bm@omp1043.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24383 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Aug 2012 01:11:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344820312; bh=wslQw1bTyyVWZ0K6aLTSU81H3VFEM+DPNQeaJJOHnVo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FHNIEglpLYR6ONBC3CVvr67qrpsx5HoppqZJ5BC3yxSWQgvAOIc7cV7A4IDE8cBONUVq8naQ/44ucpsS0V2T3V2trGbxM9ti2bFGzy0bt00beoLaBuTWggff5QsIbrAn2WOBg5qG+G3WHhSN4FtervIJx+H52LzJZa/bV1EHJzc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MRKuywfLZ4hAwmAB+bWqfk7p7aymG9L778cBxHm8EHfoC7MT7hQ8onbrYHOZRa8+5Mw2CrYBboP9YBMHnJMcPRoACYxGSh32FGj1Alxq4Fh8jdyojZGw3N2C2xoNp8dQDnH7ENPABSEXpT/uSjs2WejO7AMEPvjXtJVD9Vz9fWQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 05RUh5IVM1ngjb3QTIzUPE2P.KyxCwYxu8rjiDxVuFSwMlN Sajxcx3U3E7QiQR8zLJCFvRZ1H2FZVIHdrYZhDiS1Wzdaowx7.vClBN6eraR k3utIoOxR07EQjDkT87iF_61_GR7ZwtukQcmVDjVcI9CHnYxcEIDxwwAB4FD SWWkVctN9YUfO3LI_DOv2.UGqJkQamUM38.eXkID6dq_Xs0gjQgJ5HsVXDnr dB6eqM2Tv4nsBpnTkIVnOSbzJrKa524qGRxFMHmIpemMNmlrJLMMGpx6661h 39oqctJdLvESVSq5yGdezqgFFcfuDfZtMQF2b678ygNs1RbD3v5qo5qVyyIs hPAZ19GN2MCVp7o.g3cEsFwKvD9cegDS7nhFoTVlAOcahSgEoR9Mzmco3GkM Q_hyQYOIboKmxg6nPokf6O1INjN82yTCqVmHaRLJ6l3posj6vHQjsJo2iMYd WzyNxxw-- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:11:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:11:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] electric fan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Finally got the 3 running for the first time after restoration! Now still need lots of assembly but that major event is done! However I'm wondering about my electric fan. It's running backward..........(mounted behind the radiator and blowing forward) Is there a way to re-wire it so it spins the other way? Sucking toward the engine? My tr-3 is positive ground and fan is negative ground and grounded on the inner fender with black wire............and has two red wires for power.........(smaller red for ignition switch and larger red for power source). ALSO............would it work ok blowing forward? Since most times when the fan is needed the car would be stopped or almost stopped in traffic and not moving very fast there fore the fan would not be fighting against air flow very often or long. thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 12 23:25:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D412D0300 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:25:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497A32D02F3 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 05:27:52 -0000 Received: from [68.142.194.244] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 05:27:52 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.114] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 05:27:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 05:27:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 941889.50518.bm@omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28014 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2012 05:27:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=3u3HEXk7qzV/pV+KgagilG1ayucsFfKdmcTDccuJWvUhSzUnPzY8zUPzwfuoGrYk64Zag5XOHh8KvmFkW3s9JMgOb8qp7PQ29ure/mW+9skpjGN4+RwKiEAeS43Pf5A8ZQBPntIw00+M6x9PevhSbNa94vs4ltI6C5c/p5gRum4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344835671; bh=xZ6DGlIjbfXFcJFFQZk4XLptesEPhpZEdJ+OS7QHCCk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=CQnVWw//T2LcO1avp1Jd3f9cY2/aegOiMXnnVBxDRZ/0A/7+g2ynMdjPsutJII8cBAQUur1xVXaoigGzaPEB1hpqMmxlOpM4JSlUS/n0V9lXtYAnP9fkI0yQnVpV/QjefyAoXB39iCz4QI3r9KrpsfZHjvvpDE6H+2WFrJJobC8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: GF_XoNAVM1mSD39RQMTN_yAGjdivBgM6eZ80PDdJGfRVLzM 9QTEvHPt_jOmmYk3h2sq96QLMF8T4zhWus02eM9GtEJOSTJB8Zu4XBbfC9dg HdwZoo5lq6Wq6PqXQzUqhWlu9rZv770dVoHbncKT10r.kBxxzSPRGIDeEpj5 KW_tAdBWBX2HHGuA7lxz80vfiX1mVQcXlMKGtmG3klJ_ZMHQhtkL9jii_S1c 5F067gJaIhmrZYk3riqaa6yUZMiCQK7lVx87aoF._griVujnke_O4a0TuzRr 6xkjW2BCS_nqKF0hj5AXWDcZ0Ee9226DbbtjseasuypH_4RpKdZZ63Gbr55N tADNU4F0mjlv5oUnoSyv_maUPXyJ0lEAEXvJef1kRzktvYoJi4jts7DJlKaG blqBFzsd.rF5OMMsUb91Oo8HVQAH4utnZw1QSNyZ0n.aDBw9.CO58AR1i8A. 3307f1MI.qWb1KWRnquswSXBzw0KyhNzI_4EslTsUSXqIL0QEngSj9nJF1nO L_bDWLd4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Aug 2012 22:27:51 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:27:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac148YD7YkM6syyATVWakVDyUQSglgAImw4g In-Reply-To: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] electric fan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Check with the manufacturer, but it should be a simple matter of swapping the hot & ground wires. No, you cannot have it blowing forward. When you are driving this will just put more strain on the fan than it is designed to take and you will be shopping for a re-placement before too long after it burns up from the over load. Congratulations on the first start-up! Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Nafziger Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:12 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] electric fan Finally got the 3 running for the first time after restoration! Now still need lots of assembly but that major event is done! However I'm wondering about my electric fan. It's running backward..........(mounted behind the radiator and blowing forward) Is there a way to re-wire it so it spins the other way? Sucking toward the engine? My tr-3 is positive ground and fan is negative ground and grounded on the inner fender with black wire............and has two red wires for power.........(smaller red for ignition switch and larger red for power source). ALSO............would it work ok blowing forward? Since most times when the fan is needed the car would be stopped or almost stopped in traffic and not moving very fast there fore the fan would not be fighting against air flow very often or long. thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 13 08:24:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B94B2D031E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:24:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798E12D030E for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:22:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=Nvq2-zvezDkA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=W5tQQkrRm4u0MA8vJKIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=q6tGcQb_xfEA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:60506] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/AF-17657-92E09205; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:24:41 +0000 Message-ID: <50290E31.5060404@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:24:49 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs List References: <50290E07.6010809@adelphia.net> In-Reply-To: <50290E07.6010809@adelphia.net> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <50290E07.6010809@adelphia.net> Subject: [TR] Fwd: Re: 1974 TR-6 for sale X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bruce, Sorry to hear about your accident. And also sorry to hear that you are selling your Triumph. I have given up motorcycles for a similar reason although I have only had some close calls. Drivers these days are paying attention to everything but driving. They run stop signs, lights, cut you off mostly just because they think they own the road or something. They just dont look. They think they are in their living room playing on their Xbox or something. I sold my 98 Tbird this spring and am keeping my 74 Bonny until the market improves. But I will not stop driving my 3 Triumph cars. But yes, I do worry when I am in a Triumph. I hope you are ok after the accident. Bob On 08/12/2012 06:05 PM, Bruce Cairns wrote: > Hello fellow Triumph listers, > After 34 years, the time has come for me to part with my beloved '74 TR-6. A > rollover accident in which I was broadsided in my Toyota 4Runner by a red > light-runner has prompted my decision - I wouldn't be here to write this if I'd > been in the TR. Anyway, this is a Southern California car with the factory > hardtop, purchased from the second owner in 1978 and completely restored in > 1998. I've put less than 2,000 miles on her since the rebuild. I have most of > the work orders/receipts detailing the rebuild. I'm asking $15,000. There is > too much for me to list here, so if you're interested, please e-mail me at: > cairnsbk@sbcglobal.net > I will be happy to e-mail photos and speak with you if you're serious. > > Best regards, > Bruce Cairns ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 13 09:26:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E102C0CC3 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:26:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE42D0186 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 15:21:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.174] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 15:21:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2012 15:21:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 873680.63352.bm@omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79740 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Aug 2012 15:21:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344871315; bh=LG0qHilQIDWs1jOzfw6oRyImFvYMymulQ4bQ7SWs3mc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UpIQx94GEkGxwXKM8RoJhSGFa7GLUyMbO/nyBxRhBZKH0jhX3dZaFxNCC01kHGIhGrVkTRQWOgu3q0HWYN2DDsJs7uM/hC3O5RXoE/vDr6KWyjEfZ4+u3NMlAG2Vpkbv3YUz9O6ok0zUAMVlKAjxgNqHPiyoIohVRA6JJxsCpy4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jDPZWzgOP01X2u2AVN0QEaDoXnNosvix2WVQxk0VTVQmwgajQZn8fAoyTpp1Jfc5NuMbgCRgSL/LFeBQZiPF45nGubpSHW3yax8gvDGRr83PJP0c/gq08S9M3dxCM6Gwo7A0BB/CMvf+zYxjwMt/UqSwBWw4KBBtAG4ix5z158E=; X-YMail-OSG: bhGe3M4VM1laUKLTS8wD0MdxYiBIJJ4FD3b42hPgMhL2o5Y RSdsl5oG5elrsYtTDwFE6B0bVWqQDnRyzaT0oyexqaGWao6y9tMEYoqPsKvF .yJDy3Wm.UnSg7UTNOTre.H9Me.IwBhf7PFDob8VZx4v5lOlvquJPTD4jxWb RJdcNCN6ehUMkwjcaOHqy7CTKICe7Mics5TaQ9onI4frwCmaTL0tPu7Y.y23 jxne_Vga6i_8hk6p8t.XxmrKxPFcf.SbsajgWB0vIOO79g.2p_dmeRiJpA1r Dr8qJ9H9BZf97pSL9_hZP5kk3hAEt.mIbHKMDTaqx.KoRjgtgL23JQ6fl5cW n9Dhn11lDosBIXmxZFP.Cm8nr2HY_amkOLCVL3BRMpgYt9r0NIShLdpXvfkW KD4qN5TGddYqryNETyil3FdmssOxjsghKcBKcbwyjiTBEXZU6ZksNN6Vg_Mf EEA5Iv.Y4VSsCtSivNvzAhR.0EVA4j56MBsc9Q1Oi Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:21:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1344871315.71838.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Gary Nafziger , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] electric fan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary for all the fans i have had on my TR3 i have been able to just flip the wires around and change it from pull to push. Frank From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:11 PM Subject: [TR] electric fan Finally got the 3 running for the first time after restoration! Now still need lots of assembly but that major event is done! However I'm wondering about my electric fan. It's running backward..........(mounted behind the radiator and blowing forward) Is there a way to re-wire it so it spins the other way? Sucking toward the engine? My tr-3 is positive ground and fan is negative ground and grounded on the inner fender with black wire............and has two red wires for power.........(smaller red for ignition switch and larger red for power source). ALSO............would it work ok blowing forward? Since most times when the fan is needed the car would be stopped or almost stopped in traffic and not moving very fast there fore the fan would not be fighting against air flow very often or long. thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 13 09:57:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFDE2D02EA for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A962D0323 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mC0P1j0011wfjNsAFFza6z; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:59:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([67.187.140.79]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mFzZ1j0041iyodP8jFzZmb; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:59:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: William Pugh In-Reply-To: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:59:33 -0700 Message-Id: <7CA20AAD-4025-49B2-A584-3D82ABE5E865@comcast.net> References: <1344820312.23589.YahooMailNeo@web65515.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> To: Gary Nafziger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] electric fan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just reverse the wires from the fan b& Blowing forward is not a good idea b& On Aug 12, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Finally got the 3 running for the first time after restoration! Now still > need lots of assembly but that major event is done! > > However I'm wondering > about my electric fan. It's running backward..........(mounted behind the > radiator and blowing forward) Is there a way to re-wire it so it spins the > other way? Sucking toward the engine? My tr-3 is positive ground and fan is > negative ground and grounded on the inner fender with black > wire............and has two red wires for power.........(smaller red for > ignition switch and larger red for power source). > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 13 16:22:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89ED2D0382 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:22:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9952D035A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:15:33 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAO98KVAYMgY6/2dsb2JhbABFugqDaIF9iCCXB6ITkGNgA4hOklmKNIJ/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,762,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="305360116" X-Originating-IP: [24.50.6.58] Received: from relay01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.244]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 13 Aug 2012 22:18:09 +0000 X-Previous-IP: 24.50.6.58 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [24.50.6.58]) by relay01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6281D30C095 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:18:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Tim Purdy Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:18:06 -0700 Message-Id: <874B8FA4-5E6B-49DE-AEA9-B585F89D5A43@citlink.net> To: TR List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR 4 Bonnet Search X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here I am again looking for a bonnet. I bought one, but Greyhound lost it. Considering that it is nearly impossible to get an answer from Greyhound and who knows when, if ever it shows up, I can no longer wait. The TR4 is my only car. So here is another plea, I just hope there is one west of the Rockies, but wherever works. I will pay the extra money to have it shipped reliable and quickly. Tim Purdy ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 13 17:10:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF10A2D0166 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:10:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hp89.hostpapa.com (hp89.hostpapa.com [76.74.242.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BD12C0D50 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:01:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s01060026f3e10d48.cg.shawcable.net ([68.147.130.10]:54206 helo=[192.168.0.14]) by hp89.hostpapa.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T13fo-0008Lk-JF; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:03:48 -0400 References: <874B8FA4-5E6B-49DE-AEA9-B585F89D5A43@citlink.net> In-Reply-To: <874B8FA4-5E6B-49DE-AEA9-B585F89D5A43@citlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Dave More Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:03:50 -0600 To: Tim Purdy X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hp89.hostpapa.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - lbcs.ca Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] TR 4 Bonnet Search X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, you may want to try Drake's British Motors in Kelowna, BC. http://www.drakesbritishmotors.com/main.shtml Len has scads of parts and there's a very good likelihood that he may be able to fix you up. Cheers, Dave On 2012-08-13, at 4:18 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > Here I am again looking for a bonnet. I bought one, but Greyhound lost it. > Considering that it is nearly impossible to get an answer from Greyhound and > who knows when, if ever it shows up, I can no longer wait. The TR4 is my only > car. So here is another plea, I just hope there is one west of the Rockies, > but wherever works. I will pay the extra money to have it shipped reliable and > quickly. > > Tim Purdy > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph@lbcs.ca ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 03:14:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FAB2D0152 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:14:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 31BEC2C0BF6 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:11:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 09:06:43 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.134] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 09:06:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 09:06:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 768219.61238.bm@omp1039.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50641 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2012 09:06:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1344935203; bh=m8vroLM5sjJRbT1vLyi83Mwq5LLwOdxdl+uRBr3/esI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oSubJ7xjY0hmNgQiwKR5Nva2m9zBeUHcvir27EBUouDoMHfsex1x1wvM1RiwuZvO4GmzK/kSyITEfrIkdNeBwL3rd9DSq/R07W/41blcoU8wbkRzmMTCX8JFmrTKDyeNARs6rW9tBUn0eh0JTlnDCO+I+e50S2TdbcfzStH8LxM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GF2a/IqJSn0+O9rjsbP6bk8n1SICZIF5QzqjtWrkVB4JXFRi5dSilDTERMmKMtMafC/BPqE0ObfA+T+0gKeczmCN8BtZXU4g5vGyfKaSNiqas2MFj447ocKlTRVWWYB2ZmyRa3HASBgUS0iMM2jT/fA7imRSeBCher2E5P31aGE=; X-YMail-OSG: 1YQ_OkkVM1lD5YxRokIGWOUakkAW0WWoby2IdJwcEKf9KQa iBm4z.Ssc_m3YY8We4WEJ9M_z0sWvAzEZp9m4StdwXHHeK4OSZNeAh.czVIa rgc89sIn1osoZfJ7nY9WCRCj_w02CHm1IHt6rvmo5i_khGeXi7eXyuOQ03P6 QrBXfdGMR6K08_5gp8ovDlcuNzVE7PNIKflGavM0ydTIFIcE9XQ75FjTqbi3 o4249O4yqvC96dgn2CGokls7Gm_mfJcSYa35kUBMAQf0SstM8gv8MDH2Dgq9 xdoVyGuDo4vZexzAqlnnc60L3crp_iZ_En6p4RMxTG5.uHt8bNLsfFf2Cu1a KpPvqBtqFD7Fl3V7otSVNsPvf3lqSNwa41rYQ.rbkf466VqdwAeyDwJQhl2o MJOdwCyeWcQq0pTaC4lWtmr.Wnzq.7azr23f392kWRFyMROomdAvachBuQDl Yd0UdDXepMdfk767tBG_lkVwPMoWx95sHLYtu13kC2nU9TMO6YwJM_MOUpdt pHwDTq5XtGk.1gz3FMdi8YHxn89MSbcoa.2zQOw-- Received: from [90.199.100.144] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:06:43 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <874B8FA4-5E6B-49DE-AEA9-B585F89D5A43@citlink.net> Message-ID: <1344935203.27878.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:06:43 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Dave More , Tim Purdy In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] TR 4 Bonnet Search X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another possible source is Robbie McLeod in Arkansas near Little Rock. Not exactly next door for CA but I visited with the British Motoring Club of Arkansas in 2009 and their clubhouse is bang next door to Robbie's place. Acres and acres of old LBC's quietly dissolving into nothingness. I saw several Frog Eye bonnets there and these are like hens teeth. The BMCA website is currently under rebuild but I can give you an email address off list of one of the club officials who may be able to make a connection for you. There's lots of stuff outside but also an enormous covered warehouse as well. Rumour had it that Robbie often supplied Moss with unobtanium. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Dave More To: Tim Purdy Cc: TR List Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012, 0:03 Subject: Re: [TR] TR 4 Bonnet Search >Tim, you may want to try Drake's British Motors in Kelowna, BC. >http://www.drakesbritishmotors.com/main.shtml >Len has scads of parts and there's a very good likelihood that he may be able >to fix you up. > >Cheers, >Dave > > >On 2012-08-13, at 4:18 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > >> Here I am again looking for a bonnet. I bought one, but Greyhound lost it. >> Considering that it is nearly impossible to get an answer from Greyhound >and >> who knows when, if ever it shows up, I can no longer wait. The TR4 is my >only >> car. So here is another plea, I just hope there is one west of the Rockies, >> but wherever works. I will pay the extra money to have it shipped reliable >and >> quickly. >> >> Tim Purdy >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph@lbcs.ca > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 04:19:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA532D016E for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:19:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9922F2D0166 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 10:22:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.198] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 10:22:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 10:22:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 775568.71630.bm@omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15614 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2012 10:22:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1344939726; bh=rnhUgeY30xeIr27xwuyLFdPOIwt1KyweGmsaYpMslbY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vV/GFyDvfu57Lw6TsjqytUNh0nNt+wKIl5KuzWdbzWAgrnhhym2Bf3XEzjmhSzzyOoqK/rp1eOYqeXuddIkPmb9tiX38mOc92B94aeU1pWaaxXspmpyU6lhhJ2cuK8FfR3K9AOqvKlYFmYllaIRFcQ3Tl6gXXRK5X2YDW78voYg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b/UV5qNtBgAhZWdVJr+G3n/4NHWYFTjerOT4qsfscI/iICWxJA+LkJhyUG3SVzt7hEKsr0p2Kmfky9Qioe2ujm+wrZO1wOc9lE8qMnq1TLGPtlzkfiZ0pWI4SaC2WSJmuBnGEPhYCtf1hR6WeTEVypCDy2CmQGG0Nc6YODdPhxY=; X-YMail-OSG: MH7pdQQVM1ndyJg.Tpgcoz6Z7cd9HsfmMbuD_Kr5rSsoYCb OvKPx5EeJrz6Sst79.FcMsKS6hTDGiB02hmJMYanVxiAsFTFM4f43qHLdNA6 fRrSOwYT0gXb_J8X9BhHQCTqRENN3vEG2AreRvswsIFHdSppfbfm6zDEpZW9 xRFBSllem0l6GPjGYkP2QwRAKcSk6KiIZ_DYU.2sVIdcIy5HhdeOmaTS2EZ. ap2TmqhcRJGwXneTlA458ft37gppUgSZOSiPk37PY1Y7DMFCw8wQcW8eNcDn MjF6R8i78eFOeZH0OSGI3gV4Le0O1_fU0_WEiBfA5BwV0Yh.hkJmysQjrgGE XqygEq8KwDdIR3Tsty_MoOZDMb9DAWTXOeyxiIzar.Kyg89B13TXrPDOr1hM hBer1JIh470YErlxRnUTTvA3KX61LfaojXhYQ0VFRdPIwnn.tCPXgWmCZyxD 87qDPFExJn1FM Received: from [74.110.22.93] by web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:22:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1344939726.15385.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 03:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] (no subject) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! I've been reviewing some 'new' threads for the second edition of my manual & came across this thread one: Subject: Master or Slave problem Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 From: All was good then one day I had to pump the clutch pedal a few times to get it to disengage. I first thought, air in the line or low fluid. Fluid was good so bled the line... twice... no soap. So, I suppose I need to narrow this down to the master or the slave cylinder. Both were rebuild just 4 years, 3,500mi, ago and have been performing flawlessly up until now. Is there a way to determine whether it is the M/C or the S/C, so I can maybe have a chance of starting in the right place? -Bill Beecher -------------------- Subject: Master or Slave problem Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 From: "Randall" > Is there a way to determine whether it is the M/C or the S/C, so I can maybe have a chance of starting in the > right place? There is basically no way for the slave to fail, except to leak fluid. If no leak, it's not the slave cylinder. And even if it does start leaking, the leak will likely be slow enough that low fluid will be the first thing you notice (not having to pump the pedal). Check out the MC first, definitely. But your description sounds suspiciously like the dread broken taper pin. - Randall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been working on a friends TR4 with the same problem (soft peddle). I was told, with the MC Blead & in the car, Plug the outlet of the MC& press the peddle down. If the peddle is firm (hard), then the problem is futher down the line.-Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 06:08:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EAC2D016E for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:08:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9655C2C0CBE for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alexpc (adsl-98-70-62-202.gnv.bellsouth.net[98.70.62.202]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20120814121040H0100mctqee>; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:10:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.70.62.202] Message-ID: <4E83696ED5914EFC8C9468FF04129267@AlexPC> From: "Alex" To: "*Triumphs List" Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:10:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Found this X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; 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14 Aug 2012 06:34:59 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Cosmo Kramer'" , References: <1344939726.15385.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:34:40 -0500 Message-ID: <5636380B0D3C4CA18E3B293E268416EF@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1344939726.15385.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac16BsxTyg6U/muYQUGPBeFsgW3oawAFj1Yg Subject: Re: [TR] (Master or Slave) Follow up and resolution X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cosmo, Because team.net does not send me posts from Randall(go figure) I never saw his response, and the archives were not working either. So, I started at the slave only because I had recently replaced the return spring and I had not been anywhere close to the M/C around the time of this problem arising. My only guess is that somehow while the spring was out the piston was allowed to move up past the 'crud ring'(my term for the internal build up beyond the slide area) and the damaged the seal. It was leaking internally, and I only found it after removing the rubber cup. BTW, The old Rovers use the same S/C setup and I was able to buy a new replacement for only $13.75 as opposed to $45 at Moss. Installed and all problems are resolved at this point. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Cosmo Kramer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:22 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] (no subject) Hi List! I've been reviewing some 'new' threads for the second edition of my manual & came across this thread one: Subject: Master or Slave problem Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 From: All was good then one day I had to pump the clutch pedal a few times to get it to disengage. I first thought, air in the line or low fluid. Fluid was good so bled the line... twice... no soap. So, I suppose I need to narrow this down to the master or the slave cylinder. Both were rebuild just 4 years, 3,500mi, ago and have been performing flawlessly up until now. Is there a way to determine whether it is the M/C or the S/C, so I can maybe have a chance of starting in the right place? -Bill Beecher -------------------- Subject: Master or Slave problem Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 From: "Randall" > Is there a way to determine whether it is the M/C or the S/C, so I can maybe have a chance of starting in the > right place? There is basically no way for the slave to fail, except to leak fluid. If no leak, it's not the slave cylinder. And even if it does start leaking, the leak will likely be slow enough that low fluid will be the first thing you notice (not having to pump the pedal). Check out the MC first, definitely. But your description sounds suspiciously like the dread broken taper pin. - Randall ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - I've been working on a friends TR4 with the same problem (soft peddle). I was told, with the MC Blead & in the car, Plug the outlet of the MC& press the peddle down. If the peddle is firm (hard), then the problem is futher down the line.-Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 12:17:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EB72D0217 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:17:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94BB2C0C86 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Here I am again looking for a bonnet" Tim, Call Mike Bonaducci in Bradford VT. at (802) 439-5815 he has a HUGE assortment of used TR Parts and I would be surprised if he does not have what you need Michael Godley 65TR4A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 12:47:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F28F2D01FA for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:47:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13312D01FA for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So Bill, Where does someone find an old Rover slave cylinder setup? I don't seem to have the catalog on those... -Bill in Tehachapi From: "Wbeech" To: "'Cosmo Kramer'" , Subject: Re: [TR] (Master or Slave) Follow up and resolution Message-ID: <5636380B0D3C4CA18E3B293E268416EF@bboffice> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cosmo, Because team.net does not send me posts from Randall(go figure) I never saw his response, and the archives were not working either. So, I started at the slave only because I had recently replaced the return spring and I had not been anywhere close to the M/C around the time of this problem arising. My only guess is that somehow while the spring was out the piston was allowed to move up past the 'crud ring'(my term for the internal build up beyond the slide area) and the damaged the seal. It was leaking internally, and I only found it after removing the rubber cup. BTW, The old Rovers use the same S/C setup and I was able to buy a new replacement for only $13.75 as opposed to $45 at Moss. Installed and all problems are resolved at this point. Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 13:17:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43072D02AB for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:17:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7212D02CD for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:07:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so1049058ghr.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2d7nRLmonKHicauT+EhYH1HljhwaGY2Oo3q99MM1Syk=; b=tiAP4GVvRGJvCqC7zrFo9WEzyI83udfDs9BBXJiPy31UQu3+7JAW8ppZ8vMF9mTB86 IFG6+r9JtisfdEs+WC0m041MhJVgw9+j2IB2VDaOvF4XXciokniFdcsLnI9iQHviaGpq mgTRDI83xakLi4bi3rWdV+weQRzfIsHl6eJhIUCHpoAnA3882Mb93rrSGn7nsW1Lb3MH AfJFFwSNGSdbYlEsbb+wHNRmtJKh6vaM+4OJzw3AQ7AYyRtfjZ7NNvInB30FudIyCZXv Biv+vJSTSyqJLoKRB51va0R3I1ZEXxX9umGllXLdkrb4WiNG8SignSqQZwmwl1veRP+Q nbrg== Received: by 10.66.82.97 with SMTP id h1mr21974208pay.45.1344971416890; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-124.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wn1sm978007pbc.57.2012.08.14.12.10.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502AA293.2080508@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:10:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1344970225.23333.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1344970225.23333.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] (Master or Slave) Follow up and resolution X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/14/12 11:50 AM, William Brewer wrote: > So Bill, > Where does someone find an old Rover slave cylinder setup? I > don't seem to have the catalog on those... > > -Bill in Tehachapi > > Closest to you would be British Pacific. If on the Phone ask to talk to Marty. He is a TR guy. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 13:48:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB512D02AE for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:48:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118D92D0212 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so962937vbk.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:50:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J+LmZ3fe/V1DPr2v69Vbqfwh01LxIjrQV9O0GHw9Llo=; b=PPRogNYC8EJsCLTzj4VrJN+369eIS8DU2RpcpXnxaWau1dmvyL09Qpp2qh3SYU6YNc OHuCKg7kocoOstKKhfDeAnEcQCRkevB8JxsPhHEJxWrOJ0d9nJEcGa+ziV3yE8wXV7PF VY52nnK1lIN2TO3HWyqB1P6Ypy64Q1VRX7iYO6eyVgHsMpu5aermFrFcEFH2/lcewt3a 0dL8AyRPUkdqXm7eAcORgRMs/YctSasLc+CvcqpU+GZskSIWZJw5aDNGRMM/o0S6d6Cd jKK9voosBas19+nyUdKVbAIyNT4Qmepi2zPoOw8EJpbdVO+JrpgkZ1k+dBDrh54Zgevv 4wuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.0.74 with SMTP id nl10mr11281781vcb.47.1344973857963; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The subject line pretty much describes what I need to do. I've checked with some speedometer shops and either I get someone I can't understand or they don't understand what I'm looking for. What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the cruise control on my TR4. The only signal generator I can find has the typical GM style 7/8 male thread at one end with a 5/8" (I think) male thread on the other end. I don't mind sending the speedometer cable and adapter some place to have it fitted. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brad 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 14:19:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9DC2D02AB for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:19:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8D52D01C1 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:14:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 20:17:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 20:17:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2012 20:17:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 723763.33284.bm@omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 54782 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2012 20:17:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=L57T0FHqDSaCsvuqyZDNEPm02XJXKu7nkKNRKs5zQvI7vAAnpihkTO1FcFZ6jtE1HWxLAMiNObewqvFdX7q/2ZGd1YDvLv+TkGNfdcaVSJTUGc5yYGe4wVC9rzsdYIoOaQE3RSbnoI/5Jd2cViFxHiYix7RmpT1Bg86Mt2EddIw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1344975451; bh=ttdDPwRulDdbZr6emxUDApCAjmpzUCfO5/r+5naCX5c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ilDyBnNipuFALJv9+Ra9/talQOuiuvUeiDvt+gVswH7Bci20vItQKx9O7E2hdOvSWvFu2fIC8+Dp7BUXL9Ro/Y260NCxQtVVBrLFBUYDJnvHS8hIjrCGLChpFbGDWNfQehcblNR4diKIBlDzgHFAfqBVI5KtRxKPxn9odXGZhcU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: D88ROKoVM1nx03YTqIBe0SMNM2GXBRGW.6w1CYrosduB6Yj XapF28DLPyvU_6lEPdpnB8pFC_pMha6jomfGu8PLEMJU73nsdoyWDZTmkB2E npzmmr6BErj81vn1yC9uHAe8Mf_gqu_KOwID7w94XQJ9XY5bH44c1nCDoa_R up9JMK8j9cZR3sYEo1mS1BgFEdkdpzWY_3z9ehfJXzL2.F6N8PuWTkX0kYvg xDh77pNB1tyrIQT0k0j3JF5Ju5YH5y1n59zdue09czMpWh7qLRrwQ.jnwrRN c4vcaoAqfmHmnPYayYWvsKmdbYstERmY.upVJvm3Y87cvC.QIIDZFWsJW4u_ OG0ygtTvtHQvt99pUMRg0CSQitYYbiu7m1TT7f.7_nBVpAErhLaxYt_lgBcp SkPjqNNFhaG.qVHl61ttbgFmFWC2r1cTAooQO1ZwkqxZ5vzIOsxZx52SjDjJ BqcYKTVZa9sAKgm0R9ryp1xB95CxnxI43I_U6418dEWjRQ.IOUM7tVvibj1H 2TsoJUM4. X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [192.168.1.102] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2012 13:17:30 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <032C7E0D-06F2-4F87-9C9D-92F723150F89@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:18:30 -0500 To: Brad Kahler Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Or, as an alternative I remember adding cruise to an old truck, they sent me two magnets and roll of tape. Strap one to the driveshaft and the other mounted on a bracket in close proximity. Voila! Le pulse generator. Drove that old truck for 20 years. Have you tried West Valley Instruments in SoCal or ZepCo in Dallas? Sent from mobile Bill On Aug 14, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Brad Kahler wrote: > The subject line pretty much describes what I need to do. I've checked > with some speedometer shops and either I get someone I can't understand or > they don't understand what I'm looking for. > > What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my > speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the cruise control on > my TR4. The only signal generator I can find has the typical GM style 7/8 > male thread at one end with a 5/8" (I think) male thread on the other end. > > I don't mind sending the speedometer cable and adapter some place to have > it fitted. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Brad > 1963 TR4 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 14:35:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D318D2D0221 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:35:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway15.websitewelcome.com (gateway15.websitewelcome.com [67.18.7.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2A52D0207 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 262D21B535024; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC0E1B534FFF for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T1NnB-0007hN-0n for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:45 -0500 Received: from 184.169.163.152 ([184.169.163.152]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:44 -0500 From: "Lee Daniels" To: "Triumphs" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator52.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32208 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - automate-it.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Source-Auth: leexray X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGVleHJheTtsZWV4cmF5O2dhdG9yNTIuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of Voila!, here's http://amzn.com/B0009GVUG8 Magnetic VSS Speed Pulse Generator Kit for Rostra and Audiovox Cruise Control also see them on ebay. > Or, as an alternative I remember adding cruise to an old truck, they sent me two magnets and roll of tape. Strap one to the driveshaft and the other mounted on a bracket in close proximity. Voila! Le pulse generator. Drove that old truck for 20 years. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 17:41:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591E02D02CE for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:41:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEED2D01FE for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:37:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1194860vcb.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/J45HgHmfl0cUcxN1GCxZ9jX0rMk+YlogIyMbGcfOsg=; b=Y69qK2VirAE13yAqbE1Gj7uonEOnr7F077yJjt0oGuKxhELNxgFyJeJQtOuG0XAzBG 8E913vOSBUn6QtPGTtgQtb1pfPYZEH3W1pWxmWPh1l28GyvMgRKXX5hWcX3Oy6+fEyZt TVg4zEO6A4vUmwPs/0vsvdg1I4ln8cvfwBTPeCNjuIn3pH4sASqK4cYW1mwZaDwPxUYd 3scWXvNbV3AbrXazOwhdTOYCVKGwLo7Gs3NPPejwZGMz7ZhoAERqbG0DuwxAxCKDxB1r IYRbZ9E5Hzt69oc2035GqJzUxqLn9J3A9aphx8iEeHAO7UnDQ1QthTBwMimt5nlQQWqa ZwCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.229.166 with SMTP id sr6mr2719979vec.52.1344987590032; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:39:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> References: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Lee Daniels wrote: > Speaking of Voila!, here's > > http://amzn.com/B0009GVUG8 > Magnetic VSS Speed Pulse Generator Kit for Rostra and Audiovox Cruise > Control > > also see them on ebay. > > > > Or, as an alternative I remember adding cruise to an old truck, they > sent me > two magnets and roll of tape. Strap one to the driveshaft and the other > mounted on a bracket in close proximity. Voila! Le pulse generator. Drove > that old truck for 20 years. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 17:41:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E12D02CE for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:41:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267372D02BC for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so1189142vbk.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:40:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GKKSHa2+OBwwoGiHDYb4n4H9GW8dWEE0yKdeIPhFDFQ=; b=L/oO0W38PhR6cor122s0PIZBJ7rc3XbX2HpEW3IPXLlCCNxud35SxH1SudkM8uQysm QBhMawhXiVHhtrXVvVNOjBCtpyb9WZMpl0O3f+dHwNj6DN+dTtNBt8n2FXMw27viGAJp KGCSY3vJFNy8pi5Tku0pZwtI/p5yBEHfS+Ar8EiGwWaWCLvDidli1CN+9r2QpvaJdkIz rBDoGYzn5R2kRYX69QSGKmnInsc4OwItzQFsago7Wubo9lxVueQMo2GR2RVPuvwG8Spg osb+uotcL2BHM7VxS6H9wjhWbjSDOriRmqdp8m26VEzwstd6clKt+p2j+wOJWeI96KRR IOfA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.155.3 with SMTP id q3mr11712371vcw.11.1344987646188; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:40:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> References: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:40:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well a bunch of you have suggested/recommended the magnets on the drive shaft option. I did find a magnet setup that was about $20 cheaper than Amazon http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RPC-250-4165/?rtype=10 I will check out Susquehanna Motorsports as suggested by Phil. I'm going to search a little while longer trying to find someone that will modify a speedometer cable to work with a pulse generator but at least I have a fall back option that is not all that expensive. Thanks! Brad On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Lee Daniels wrote: > Speaking of Voila!, here's > > http://amzn.com/B0009GVUG8 > Magnetic VSS Speed Pulse Generator Kit for Rostra and Audiovox Cruise > Control > > also see them on ebay. > > > > Or, as an alternative I remember adding cruise to an old truck, they > sent me > two magnets and roll of tape. Strap one to the driveshaft and the other > mounted on a bracket in close proximity. Voila! Le pulse generator. Drove > that old truck for 20 years. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 19:29:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FFE2D032A for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:29:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4932D02AB for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:26:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=Y2hqujGpKpcA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=IUNyflp2xOkA:10 a=wrnlkVK_AAAA:8 a=xdmlJVf0AAAA:8 a=OPDjr5BPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=45wiQIL36U1ymhsO1pQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=s7wbwcEapakA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 173.88.251.65 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:54754] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8A/98-29356-E6BFA205; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:29:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Brad Kahler" , "Triumphs" References: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:29:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Next thing will be a Flux Capacitor! -----Original Message----- From: Brad Kahler Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:40 PM To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable Well a bunch of you have suggested/recommended the magnets on the drive shaft option. I did find a magnet setup that was about $20 cheaper than Amazon http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RPC-250-4165/?rtype=10 I will check out Susquehanna Motorsports as suggested by Phil. I'm going to search a little while longer trying to find someone that will modify a speedometer cable to work with a pulse generator but at least I have a fall back option that is not all that expensive. Thanks! Brad On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Lee Daniels wrote: > Speaking of Voila!, here's > > http://amzn.com/B0009GVUG8 > Magnetic VSS Speed Pulse Generator Kit for Rostra and Audiovox Cruise > Control > > also see them on ebay. > > > > Or, as an alternative I remember adding cruise to an old truck, they > sent me > two magnets and roll of tape. Strap one to the driveshaft and the other > mounted on a bracket in close proximity. Voila! Le pulse generator. > Drove > that old truck for 20 years. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv@roadrunner.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 19:47:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9380F2D02E2 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:47:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450402C0CE0 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1288428vcb.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6pdgpHJf8jufU6tFBVRD0psSMTIQZp+VDuGJYqwN9ls=; b=SZ4BStrK9bp5c/kiHHr2jpdHuhm/Nv0s9hEpTCBuDxNnHBuTYrppX/dSy6+wUpekJw ge+lolaOwZmW0IsS/QWnSp9G3TiWSsq5paevGGL5aGJo0vLXgJy3lLmm9WdSOOM5Fjog zshB1Za07U+RQvmXEwO8e41yzs01ISqMGZfFrn3TgP85nN3S3TOLQoE4NDdt3bjcb44A bLQZ211GwvBXYwzDzqxGCqrSu+6zwjfTNdgQE9I4aG3FkMAHYqQnllv7WtEf7omNWC+a D6MNo/almGyYAFNFZXUB26e50C2CQduWS38D87OBpz8r8GXeVbrBQ9JOEQHuWqzlwBu+ A7MA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.26.137 with SMTP id l9mr5531108vdg.62.1344995378282; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6e0f70a0e79028e847d7441120bba67d.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Jerry Van Vlack X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm waiting for it to become readily available over the counter at the local FLAPS :) On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > Next thing will be a Flux Capacitor! > > -----Original Message----- From: Brad Kahler > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:40 PM > To: Triumphs > Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer > cable > > Well a bunch of you have suggested/recommended the magnets on the drive > shaft option. I did find a magnet setup that was about $20 cheaper than > Amazon http://www.summitracing.com/**parts/RPC-250-4165/?rtype=10 > > I will check out Susquehanna Motorsports as suggested by Phil. > > I'm going to search a little while longer trying to find someone that will > modify a speedometer cable to work with a pulse generator but at least I > have a fall back option that is not all that expensive. > > Thanks! > > Brad ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 20:02:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6042D0324 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:02:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975D22D02BC for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:00:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=Y2hqujGpKpcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=IUNyflp2xOkA:10 a=KJYcQvNghx0cWiqEyJgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 65/5A-28917-7730B205; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:03:36 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Brad Kahler'" , "'Triumphs'" References: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:03:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac16Vi6HdstiJI0ERquBORUuH4jdwgAM7bfA Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my > speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the > cruise control on > my TR4. Have you considered using ignition pulses instead? You'd want to be sure the cruise control drops out when the clutch is pressed, but you'll need that anyway. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 20:02:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97E72D032C for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:02:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3973F2C0B7F for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:02:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=lOvgBFol54EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=t19uvJOVBHYA:10 a=xpEl45zBFXH3g4XHW3wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2D/4E-13948-AD30B205; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:05:14 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <1344970225.23333.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <502AA293.2080508@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:05:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1fd101cd7a8a$693f15f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <502AA293.2080508@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac16UeLS+QTwJpXDQN+C8VufbNZevgAOFm0g Subject: Re: [TR] (Master or Slave) Follow up and resolution X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Closest to you would be British Pacific. If on the Phone ask > to talk to > Marty. He is a TR guy. These days, I think Steve is more involved with TRs than Marty. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 14 20:16:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC44D2C0BBF for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:16:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F142D0305 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1308537vcb.14 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:18:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jZqIOdBKCUM2OEu+CkqgSEaM+1sUvm/aHioPKxCX/mY=; b=tucXnGhGWN1t2sMB4FVDq9J0I9NQjWULLJhV/fztegM2eZkS4mHLD1ZIZy6SM1NL/1 E4kL+pcESCD0ogY1ZT1e5qkIl5Gld+hicEeYu+SfePM5W0foT9z3sh/gkpAIiDEU3fav Efl2aToYEhlB7itQQy6LAGq5m1fo4ULL5MRL5yoE8ww8y1qrl5WjGxJRvzqCn72BcWuf G0CHb+QupwZyBYyC11LaIlsHw7AvocTQcozorGT9a5K7tsdo5oqiroy2Bklm224vvIt/ dd+TTC5qsXeQWFgYskmTaO8dWf/595kT5GNIbkLUKoArbthWFN/5Gpa2LwEwK7jjFiUU jZHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.67.105 with SMTP id m9mr8462639vdt.34.1344997091919; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:18:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:18:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The first version of the SCS/Frigette cruise control (circa 1998) had coil sense capability and I used it with great success on my Spitfire. The next SCS/Frigette cruise control I bought in 2001 had that feature removed and it only works with VSS type signals. Connecting it to the coil actually fries the cruise module as I found out recently. I've been looking at other brands but so far the only ones I've found all require some sort of VSS and don't allow connecting to the coil. Quite frustrating. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Randall wrote: > > What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my > > speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the > > cruise control on > > my TR4. > > Have you considered using ignition pulses instead? You'd want to be sure > the cruise control drops out when the clutch is pressed, but you'll need > that anyway. > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 07:02:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8C22D027A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:02:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10872D01C2 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so979136lah.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=y4aNOv6pQY7XuUjFAxoIme4OqZL2tUIvjBphzuQvuwk=; b=WX1X/htB9+mwGgh0RARgtollg20tlcsfWdW4Up15ui9k0LGsot7qmNvVVF9BHu0jN7 tHOGFKNSA+csku5+TRfNlPGu7LRyng7LteWmXor+2D0+WraCCkx+NVjAH0XDt4IDHvr7 I1Q8y3mcbton4fzlZoxvDOfLyw5qBo7sYQT7HCgjUcqtD5/McUVsWc/4elBhU6hp+VPI tkACPCnstVlb5pvZBFoU7BnQOGx0+tIj5pEQXw80CL80+XGgvvAmFpt5dHhYBM7zC/ct a6MXoTXMD/d2FJmCjGs8iik25zjKk8W+SiM0+qme4PwAidrvZ2ILz/CZrkEMx42E7UdV 1zmQ== Received: by 10.152.125.107 with SMTP id mp11mr15561133lab.0.1345035682196; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:01:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1c7a01cd780b$be1c6e00$0601a8c0@randall> References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> <50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> <1c7a01cd780b$be1c6e00$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:01:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here are links to several photos of my NOS TR3 shift knob alongside the modern TRF reproduction. The knob with the dull finish on the left is the modern one. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-RZdG7PR/0/XL/i-RZdG7PR-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-HZZGffj/0/XL/i-HZZGffj-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9WkJrD4/0/XL/i-9WkJrD4-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg Here are links to photos of the original shift knob on an unrestored long-door TR2 (TS2XXX) with fewer than 20000 miles or so. This one seems to have never had the shift pattern molded into the knob. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9MPmkpn/0/XL/i-9MPmkpn-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9Xs45b5/0/XL/i-9Xs45b5-XL.jpg I'm told by a member of this forum who's forgotten more about TRs than I'll ever know that the early TR2 knobs were not threaded, but a push-on fit to the shift lever. Don 1962 TR3B (which is now back in my garage, licensed and running, after almost 30 years off the road and 31 years of ownership! Happy 50th birthday, TSF202L!) On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > I have what I believe is one of the original TR knobs as well as the > > modern rubber version. > > Any chance you could post a photo somewhere? I'm kind of curious, as I > believe my TR3 is wearing it's original hard rubber knob. The pattern is > worn away (I think), but it otherwise appears to be similar to the repro > that TRF was selling at VTR/TRfest. > > > There may be early and late versions of the original TR2-3B knobs -- > > smarter folk than I will have to chime in here. > > The SPC lists 3 different knobs (one of them being for the early 2-piece > shift lever). Unfortunately there is no change point given for the third > knob (at least not in my copy). > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 07:18:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170102D02FB for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:18:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40E82D026F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:13:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so2128571ghr.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xIYwLXXD+UiCenMxYoCxg3lwQf5y0ezSv/K/N6KGw5Q=; b=yfFWseBWPnnAewvhAjjvwW6MfQm+nAU4jkPOn1e1+IxOhQiwyFhtQWYvxtNAwAuDm7 qhGxrEbqZ7RIfjvaesyIlpSTxwIlOdCw6QfSy1QBMFPpjjDHuP1RakYczWiWXrrM6oaD JKkWHvnAP6zf9fbnmOMnSiH1czCdDXSFVpseNDHcJcNhlgViJ6wtKhntE3lfFbXySu75 SER95ITiRRxBRC0PXavcXqAqBDcRorjdiWrtSemBbYTtidxwTHt5XmC4lLBtdyaXgPV9 duYa1NI1n2Q1OlkRL1umbhtYsBcbeI8SBPJpI0PGyI4WwRZvmNwHiZ+2a40EcmFPyBlO EYhg== Received: by 10.68.116.17 with SMTP id js17mr20399090pbb.109.1345036581471; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-124.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pv8sm578380pbb.25.2012.08.15.06.16.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502BA121.4040404@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:16:17 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1344970225.23333.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <502AA293.2080508@gmail.com> <1fd101cd7a8a$693f15f0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <1fd101cd7a8a$693f15f0$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] (Master or Slave) Follow up and resolution X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/14/12 7:05 PM, Randall wrote: >> Closest to you would be British Pacific. If on the Phone ask >> to talk to >> Marty. He is a TR guy. > These days, I think Steve is more involved with TRs than Marty. > > -- Randall Steve no longer owns British Pacific. He was bought out over a year ago and no longer works there. Leaving Marty as the only TR guy at the company. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 07:33:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F043C2D030E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:33:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F902D027A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:27:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=2qrYh_8HcHMA:10 a=iAgKEEEpAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=1S2fyl2yyjVpj1B-RI0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=E6k37eg1NvgA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:51211] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2B/E7-28917-B64AB205; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:30:19 +0000 Message-ID: <502BA478.6050107@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:30:32 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Hiscock References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net> <50256968.7030401@adelphia.net> <1c7a01cd780b$be1c6e00$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don, Your original is in great shape. Mine, on the other hand, was really bad. There is/was no evidence of a shift pattern. But my restoration resulted in a smooth knob and looks almost brand new. And since I have 3 TRs with the same shift pattern, and have been shifting them for over 40 years, I really don't need a reminder! Bob On 08/15/2012 09:01 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Here are links to several photos of my NOS TR3 shift knob alongside the > modern TRF reproduction. The knob with the dull finish on the left is the > modern one. > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-RZdG7PR/0/XL/i-RZdG7PR-XL.jpg > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-HZZGffj/0/XL/i-HZZGffj-XL.jpg > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9WkJrD4/0/XL/i-9WkJrD4-XL.jpg > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg > > > Here are links to photos of the original shift knob on an unrestored > long-door TR2 (TS2XXX) with fewer than 20000 miles or so. This one seems > to have never had the shift pattern molded into the knob. > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9MPmkpn/0/XL/i-9MPmkpn-XL.jpg > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9Xs45b5/0/XL/i-9Xs45b5-XL.jpg > > I'm told by a member of this forum who's forgotten more about TRs than I'll > ever know that the early TR2 knobs were not threaded, but a push-on fit to > the shift lever. > > Don > 1962 TR3B > (which is now back in my garage, licensed and running, after almost 30 > years off the road and 31 years of ownership! Happy 50th birthday, > TSF202L!) > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Randall wrote: > >>> I have what I believe is one of the original TR knobs as well as the >>> modern rubber version. >> Any chance you could post a photo somewhere? I'm kind of curious, as I >> believe my TR3 is wearing it's original hard rubber knob. The pattern is >> worn away (I think), but it otherwise appears to be similar to the repro >> that TRF was selling at VTR/TRfest. >> >>> There may be early and late versions of the original TR2-3B knobs -- >>> smarter folk than I will have to chime in here. >> The SPC lists 3 different knobs (one of them being for the early 2-piece >> shift lever). Unfortunately there is no change point given for the third >> knob (at least not in my copy). >> >> -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 07:49:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA772D031D for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:49:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com (mail-yx0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384542C0C9F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yenl1 with SMTP id l1so2186000yen.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OSDA/zKMrVKXZzROAVowd+Ije43YesWFnMvAAtCtHMM=; b=psmg295+ffnzHuYTddkOycx7d6+x+7a9/KAbuotw6k0BW6Fq0nOC7vZXAOA9LTrcfc yB023QW+aU77w02U/p04gy6ncxS6+M+5f0olV/j76tI74pAWJKyHJ5/IOUK9//nFPq11 lF3keZkuHbkyQw1o08Vgn9ue9nJnL8dCXxyjoIXDWaK5E3NwunwM5dg7vh0zE8DHg8D4 JJnBh9nj9gbPDA9bBPSUd2PjUtAigTkGmQWmPQN76bMhzZWEuEKAYHgE2DsyYGqFswVy BNwk3DeCDVxVCMkd/hogKPZpZlQxxj63oLihXhEuM/Qj7mwQqoL+pFRm9YW+bcVD0S/E 5aaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr18470363igq.16.1345038609327; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:50:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Brad Kahler X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brad Kahler wrote: > ...I've been looking at > other brands but so far the only ones I've found all require some sort of > VSS and don't allow connecting to the coil. > I know some who are using this unit (on VWs): http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422 Basically a clone of the old (low-tech) Audiovox CC which I have used on my VW for 20+ years and 2 other cars before that (same unit moved from car-to-car). Never put it on a TR but see no reason why it wouldn't suit. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 07:57:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605632D02E0 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:57:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55632D01C1 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1851824vcb.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YnNBpT4f5+j79jg9qToH4ttVE5bmQcfgqfG4l2mqLnM=; b=OePr4x/JsWocX/AYDRDpkz7K+YDtv8IXQwjt2yi4RHdh1dBi0cKT8rOt+DvshSIoqq KpOclnTPwfvn+Kl+3sfks7QgyLgS9sxhXzdIrWWVeIlurwmUiI5QuFCbcZTDPL9Lb1YH gT98qOX7XiJF464Iww0yn1lIOW2g4nCAVzrUVhglo/iFW/DF1uCNqjRn/bqZnCJrDLoh BiyP8ZWWK/MHybp9YffOegf6+/NKxFFx3MZSmwjZl8hJTvmbJlAN9iuPw3CaO5nqQnA0 J7UmipSbrC2xE6Hj90R1kOrBVrouNKDPRzHtVDuWoJIlXCgEteeV2vArWR0/9oRUZvCf TIbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.41 with SMTP id dx9mr11160529vdb.89.1345039182128; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Geo Hahn X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Geo, This one doesn't allow connecting to the ignition coil as a speed source either. It seems that all of them on the market now require a VSS signal, pulse generator in the speedo cable or else magnets on the drive shaft. Also the one you've listed is a vacuum unit and I prefer the electric servo type. I installed an SCS/Frigette cruise control with electric servo unit on my Spitfire back in 1998 and it worked great. Bud Rolofson then installed one on his TR6 and it's been working great all these years. Now that I want to install one in my TR4 they don't make the style that will sense speed from the ignition coil. The two simplest options are a VSS in the speedometer cable or the magnets on the drive shaft. I haven't given up on the speedometer cable option just yet, still a few more places to check with. Barring that I'll probably end up with the magnets on the drive shaft. Thanks, Brad On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brad Kahler wrote: > >> ...I've been looking at >> other brands but so far the only ones I've found all require some sort of >> VSS and don't allow connecting to the coil. >> > > > I know some who are using this unit (on VWs): > > http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422 > > Basically a clone of the old (low-tech) Audiovox CC which I have used on > my VW for 20+ years and 2 other cars before that (same unit moved from > car-to-car). > > Never put it on a TR but see no reason why it wouldn't suit. > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 08:04:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1962D02CE for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:04:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com (mail-yx0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C826E2C0CBE for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yenl1 with SMTP id l1so2203223yen.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dw1+gjg3a/mzABfAyYSQdrG0tcInpB2mBW5u5NLX1OQ=; b=NoRfl2eYvPPPJkcntzDV1dioHtvMdQlicAXYhOqosoQ4bDkh8SvAlfZwM10WywXYAA ncGKW0vFXfoZra7R3gd/gMWTKnF9W3qgxcHA8hZUFDP/59wxfcKrtKsxSaUXuBZVHjZ6 0XSTVDVdyQfF3PEgZO6LOrlehsS7evM98jOmtzV5puyn5+isGqLimzm0MZtpbrql+Nab RHLCZ8DUtAbjM51KC7mKA6uMXMKeoD5PuSIpWt9HpO1YOPM3ZH4AYhZMKSc6IEdYU34W Tz2Igc/H4tRdFOYGkhwzWlceVi3Vx5VJhPdJHhAx0Yh4/9PrQRmEE9qG3C7qgHios6DN IeiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.140.106 with SMTP id rf10mr18787820igb.41.1345039332794; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.11.72 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:02:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: John Innis To: Brad Kahler X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You could also get (or build) a converter that will take ignition pulses and give you a VSS signal. Do you know what the Specs are for the VSS that your unit wants? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > Geo, > > This one doesn't allow connecting to the ignition coil as a speed source > either. It seems that all of them on the market now require a VSS signal, > pulse generator in the speedo cable or else magnets on the drive shaft. > > Also the one you've listed is a vacuum unit and I prefer the electric servo > type. > > I installed an SCS/Frigette cruise control with electric servo unit on my > Spitfire back in 1998 and it worked great. Bud Rolofson then installed one > on his TR6 and it's been working great all these years. Now that I want to > install one in my TR4 they don't make the style that will sense speed from > the ignition coil. > > The two simplest options are a VSS in the speedometer cable or the magnets > on the drive shaft. I haven't given up on the speedometer cable option > just yet, still a few more places to check with. Barring that I'll > probably end up with the magnets on the drive shaft. > > Thanks, > > Brad > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brad Kahler wrote: > > > >> ...I've been looking at > >> other brands but so far the only ones I've found all require some sort > of > >> VSS and don't allow connecting to the coil. > >> > > > > > > I know some who are using this unit (on VWs): > > > > http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=422 > > > > Basically a clone of the old (low-tech) Audiovox CC which I have used on > > my VW for 20+ years and 2 other cars before that (same unit moved from > > car-to-car). > > > > Never put it on a TR but see no reason why it wouldn't suit. > > Geo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jdinnis@gmail.com > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 08:05:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356D22D037F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:05:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB802C0CE2 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:01:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1857659vcb.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+RVu6w1fAffQYCRiLKX+zM9Y0jtquPMCMMvOVcXbKzI=; b=ZNZFGJCiVUP4micDAvpFM3U4CeoFCZ/Tb06jRFqccSCcE225hi6hFTKplXojQ2w9Zs jhyGQtJ8wkz75aIQc5b/JQ1/qla56K/IQ9c+R+o+EKMceURC4QFRZDdM8xUjI1j8VU++ CdTzxeJLwcngtBQbyt4yN0pOZ22GVIFSn/bYcBpQYsb7+5k5JebYfHELDwYyGw3CTkLn SrLJSvyCvbFEmgSd8mjDRG8mSqv7m8UNBoSIGgWHwESnSUvBaNs0ebAjvvzgO4phCdM6 BK5gc/EVd7ey0OR30eaHoPWgnw50PWM6XnjETsPaq47UJ/KKLHmnfZS2YR4BlmXGoH9f bw5Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.59.1.162 with SMTP id bh2mr8349280ved.13.1345039441312; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:04:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: John Innis X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No, I don't. Since the new cruise units are designed to work with modern cars I would imagine whatever is typical for a modern VSS would be appropriate. Just shows you how little I know about modern cars :) If it was made after about 1973 I don't know much about them! Brad On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 AM, John Innis wrote: > You could also get (or build) a converter that will take ignition pulses > and give you a VSS signal. Do you know what the Specs are for the VSS that > your unit wants? > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > >> Geo, >> >> This one doesn't allow connecting to the ignition coil as a speed source >> either. It seems that all of them on the market now require a VSS signal, >> pulse generator in the speedo cable or else magnets on the drive shaft. >> >> Also the one you've listed is a vacuum unit and I prefer the electric >> servo >> type. >> >> I installed an SCS/Frigette cruise control with electric servo unit on my >> Spitfire back in 1998 and it worked great. Bud Rolofson then installed >> one >> on his TR6 and it's been working great all these years. Now that I want >> to >> install one in my TR4 they don't make the style that will sense speed from >> the ignition coil. >> >> The two simplest options are a VSS in the speedometer cable or the magnets >> on the drive shaft. I haven't given up on the speedometer cable option >> just yet, still a few more places to check with. Barring that I'll >> probably end up with the magnets on the drive shaft. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brad ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 08:20:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987BC2D027A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:20:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E472D021A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so2220585ghr.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jWfsoR9eQTfPFnn8mhsV3vXjRh9QNqcGsfRg1xiXm9s=; b=aWyVw7fpMduAUlQobejF0eG6M/A4PwINo/k2XRPF2SNCguWD/8rV23kQwOiITRqPD3 tt3ArgGDiJ/WNQQLpPStBobkuuxALG8rtIEZqx6aYXDTpg3h3LFnWwxGK/D3QIAvG8rk k5MPKyc46GHmzAf6uRfOmrFraxBiviXqoCYZpFaD4DilDwZr6Z5hCm/EppszqCo7iOSm a3WwYPBsgISEChSLFSP+mEUQACGTNTdOlfCwAMhTDVzTknNaWe7yM9OE6l3EqZ+CblOd zEDZSsJMLfg2C2aURQWtIiPXbGlRPaI+RSaqxoPY39tA26TQdg+6PyH00tsb09ABZIsZ Ckbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.222.193 with SMTP id qo1mr11405381igc.70.1345040420001; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.11.72 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:20:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1fd001cd7a8a$2e60be20$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: John Innis To: Brad Kahler X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, so a little googleing shows that most of the GM VSS output a 0-5vdc square wave at 4000 pulses per mile. So at 60mph, you are going to get a square wave with a 66.6hz frequency. Assuming you are running about 3000 rpm on a 4cyl engine at the same speed, your tach pulse will be a 0-12v irregular spike at about 200hz. The two frequencies are close enough that you might just have to reduce the voltage down to get the tach signal to work. I'd use a Schmidt trigger to reduce the signal to 5v and try it. Once you get down to 5v, there should be no risk of damage to your cc module. If it doesn't work, then you will need to add a frequency devider to requce it to a point that it operates. Should only take 3 or for components to build the circuit. You could probably do the same thing with just a transistor but you might not get a clean enough square wave to make the CC module happy. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > No, I don't. > > Since the new cruise units are designed to work with modern cars I would > imagine whatever is typical for a modern VSS would be appropriate. > > Just shows you how little I know about modern cars :) > > If it was made after about 1973 I don't know much about them! > > Brad > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 AM, John Innis wrote: > >> You could also get (or build) a converter that will take ignition pulses >> and give you a VSS signal. Do you know what the Specs are for the VSS that >> your unit wants? >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: >> >>> Geo, >>> >>> This one doesn't allow connecting to the ignition coil as a speed source >>> either. It seems that all of them on the market now require a VSS >>> signal, >>> pulse generator in the speedo cable or else magnets on the drive shaft. >>> >>> Also the one you've listed is a vacuum unit and I prefer the electric >>> servo >>> type. >>> >>> I installed an SCS/Frigette cruise control with electric servo unit on my >>> Spitfire back in 1998 and it worked great. Bud Rolofson then installed >>> one >>> on his TR6 and it's been working great all these years. Now that I want >>> to >>> install one in my TR4 they don't make the style that will sense speed >>> from >>> the ignition coil. >>> >>> The two simplest options are a VSS in the speedometer cable or the >>> magnets >>> on the drive shaft. I haven't given up on the speedometer cable option >>> just yet, still a few more places to check with. Barring that I'll >>> probably end up with the magnets on the drive shaft. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 09:21:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376E02D02AE for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:21:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ACEC2D01C1 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:19:28 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.221] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:19:28 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:19:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:19:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 739163.45030.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12654 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2012 15:19:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=eAiK65OWQABCLsSC7WqS0zkl7cXVrq4P1QLTbXQvG+Tk4eidjin46wTbjqPLEs2irkaNTgVK86k53oMRGzg8aubqkehEwmSJf1xssWW33K/wRWcdHKoFjWiGjIRMOompcAUEw687/vnFVPB0IfkIg3zELa858BqjbKLHICWsdAo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345043968; bh=2rfWbo+PKFx1RXikCJDsJ+x0Z1aY8VdIB4Ria2gUkHI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=ZrYw83YKwWg8esy1M0VE5btlZBo1Q9XtKF4yudzrbg9MLFjcyBbKGdrc/wPaMXFZfxV4wbayHoNBxRqXrDbIchns3HacHn8KNnm7AghJOTaQwZbt3NaoRxgH9cCh9EuPOQL2s58Ixzwqj8ksq6gjlperPQeIM2IuTPjRDrdh3xA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Uu8Nt10VM1k_v7J50eZ_o0619igr0g9m3dSHzXJ8U.AMlan nXFbpzDTWP3emqJSZfgjXDgK7twa6juxJau2PqjNU06.lOgz.qrHRfTdX0X1 Qm8d0Sv6oBUYAqYFz0s.OFo9sUu4WSFcfZQoPrAIQNxFUeIqE8Lhzoqf16xo HEJJM1nn_QQcTz5.kZdf6lLkDuHCvr7GPrPhQ6G30UWIB_JRIzf5ktBdlUd3 XbS1tNwbVSzMnCE7NbGcHxv2I2vOi.1eWc5YJ5Z6oF67YbqjUrsv5eIBMAmD 7hLfCJYyDOf.7V_mqdh1ZynzySDeIyyfYXwWK0Gc7wRyL13uqlXzdPW1W0ZY .RFLHrylnFfXbNl7RZTD7H1hoUEX8g4WKKId6UPXZgzT11MRB5Zlwbx_Z7PO BkRXLs_miSVeQYZsP9PS11kQRHYSmlj7irjJqQtjAQjKVf51iwJciQVdgTRm mjb8lx0uDRzH.2M7FL5hX.ZZQSwoydzr4O9PXoCb1wqudtaLkCZBiOqmLR5Y mlcOANkUzWs3k8OaXO314OylKLuvkUXHZEV2erRfA4h_UrI7_vk4_6Qr77TZ ldnak3kNazlPEY4RvEgDaJ4VESXKig0OOWg_tpIESlsRyuLt2zY2DRR81rsS GDXYJX0RRvXQjT85MuIAuGOsYnFIQmzUnFiGgWFvECsgL X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2012 08:19:28 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Randall'" References: <50255617.4020409@adelphia.net><50256968.7030401@adelphia.net><1c7a01cd780b$be1c6e00$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:19:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac165sWb+9xzjtzZSsmJ38uURFgTPAAEO0fg Cc: 'Triumphs List' Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Moss UK lists the "push-On" knob p/n 107885 for TS1-2876, of course it is NLS. They do sell the 2nd listed knob, p/n 109045. Both Rimmer and Moss UK refer to 109045 when you search 123961, that third knob that Randall alluded to. Such a mystery, I wonder if the third one of planned but never produced? Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Hiscock Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:01 AM To: Randall Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration Here are links to several photos of my NOS TR3 shift knob alongside the modern TRF reproduction. The knob with the dull finish on the left is the modern one. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-RZdG7PR/0/XL/i-RZdG7PR-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-HZZGffj/0/XL/i-HZZGffj-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9WkJrD4/0/XL/i-9WkJrD4-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-Pw9zjXX/0/XL/i-Pw9zjXX-XL.jpg Here are links to photos of the original shift knob on an unrestored long-door TR2 (TS2XXX) with fewer than 20000 miles or so. This one seems to have never had the shift pattern molded into the knob. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9MPmkpn/0/XL/i-9MPmkpn-XL.jpg http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-9Xs45b5/0/XL/i-9Xs45b5-XL.jpg I'm told by a member of this forum who's forgotten more about TRs than I'll ever know that the early TR2 knobs were not threaded, but a push-on fit to the shift lever. Don 1962 TR3B (which is now back in my garage, licensed and running, after almost 30 years off the road and 31 years of ownership! Happy 50th birthday, TSF202L!) On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > I have what I believe is one of the original TR knobs as well as the > > modern rubber version. > > Any chance you could post a photo somewhere? I'm kind of curious, as > I believe my TR3 is wearing it's original hard rubber knob. The > pattern is worn away (I think), but it otherwise appears to be similar > to the repro that TRF was selling at VTR/TRfest. > > > There may be early and late versions of the original TR2-3B knobs -- > > smarter folk than I will have to chime in here. > > The SPC lists 3 different knobs (one of them being for the early > 2-piece shift lever). Unfortunately there is no change point given > for the third knob (at least not in my copy). > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 09:43:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BC32D026F for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:43:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D22D22D01FA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:43:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:45:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.3] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:45:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 15:45:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 500495.82548.bm@omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 406 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Aug 2012 15:45:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345045559; bh=Bd4XPxAuMp7y//MJiOK0hktM4zO2WGrNWFNlkHpMFck=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w/t1DFH7641wLkrc3rFsPp7IfxkQhkXPYmGqgIyzx1kwWR8Fl0aKKwwP3fXLmFdHjJKiNaVNbhD66Zu27BKbboVA4QCTCEgGHPritrF9RtcdfeKuT8MwPab5lBrX+XrTCVwfPgBXcvELWPssxGdK37QOgVT5HdXtOaxWcZ70RM0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X0NPHcNCEDV/yr2v3o3aYdW2HdYVVqGObNHpOERXYOQBEfoKuXQVgd40w0cLiindK8n21VfvV8CPkAV/ZW8ZQvY9WVprRvPYXUhIILfFxeUWm0BskwPCGCZOk26vmYpS5jXPH/tXEK1pQ8obz+dZwYKcC3xDZBa+LvC+k0mFalM=; X-YMail-OSG: MTt_4NwVM1lElye1GH0yoHsrXSi_j.XuT8HciLDhK7O_kHJ 0ycSVAeDOEe_duhZZ4AtvpLZK.QfOzXmb3EpSPdMAyTyrQBi2w5da_1zJ9DH 5iZk6dSDtxJv9tmOO6NyA.8c3GdLBkpVTtWTSYEeXJccz8JGmDwPZf46I3JU vlBIeo8.D5m8q1p7HQJiFexB7mNMdfm7q_TdNxi9xMQz_alLgUpbesQtTtuk NNMoQWtzU0dgLtxXXLh_qf5xw7uOpeRLKEh4Ce12ROEIXt8CAahJIJW5WUrN 4YVY1d9W7s4.oji1w3Fi0kPO8V2p1g0P6zajeoPoUAQWoq_FTWlKIWpRStxj 7T7AVzcB1CGTQOA1p0mbC55Bi3aTpzvn9s0FgIOPv_EODUP70pC8tZ9JqAmu e.6PQAJB3WvobE1sd6GGGHXXLDwLyUOk01V1FK48ntsKyrP6NM7Q5MbsaiD7 1r1ljbhLu0RTeZpm4fq1bTTEhA001Zt5JkLSctShSpQ-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:45:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: Message-ID: <1345045559.48824.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Brad Kahler , Triumphs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net why not have 2 custom speedo cables made. there are lots of little shops around that will do this. if you need a place i have a lead in fallbrook California Frank From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable The subject line pretty much describes what I need to do. I've checked with some speedometer shops and either I get someone I can't understand or they don't understand what I'm looking for. What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the cruise control on my TR4. The only signal generator I can find has the typical GM style 7/8 male thread at one end with a 5/8" (I think) male thread on the other end. I don't mind sending the speedometer cable and adapter some place to have it fitted. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brad 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 10:10:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8522D02AE for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:10:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD73B2D0137 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2023376vcb.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:10:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tZNxqZhHa+S0MJUp+tBpkphEqIn0CkiYu3wFLfdMzg4=; b=fEZH9AlmKqmdYktUUpkIch48ScNGzfV9+n7JdVucjp1Iy+mtxnJiWSlUMDBy1T4IN3 S1wL+/G7OJ4x/0IAANVPWdOz1EM2ucMRicsWhDMnfAraGlFqb7YQnhxFCY/XkZXKGWwd C+LqmQl2Z6E5xGWmnvhMzaYgFe5Riucs+GweAqmUCwE0g+c5Soq5RXlfJTKilwUi7JUK eJJfdqyyWU85dD65uyRcDopN0aeD/7UQVq79USrTB6MJfFmhW9mac3cQbklQtRC0CkkS BnHbvwDy7LbagnADlq1rkP26XjQDjG3dB+P8R3cfatfg0xZ1hlf/an+PH1r12wsXwYkU 2llQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.221.5 with SMTP id qa5mr14474148vec.59.1345047013138; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:10:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1345045559.48824.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1345045559.48824.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, That's what I've been trying to find is a decent speedo shop that can rework cables. I've called several and I'm not sure we were speaking the same language and I've tried emailing/calling others and they don't respond. If you wouldn't mind sending me the info on the place in Fallbrook I would appreciate it. I just got a lead on a shop in Denver that I'm going to check on right now so who knows, maybe that will pan out. Brad On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > why not have 2 custom speedo cables made. > there are lots of little shops around that will do this. > if you need a place i have a lead in fallbrook California > Frank > > *From:* Brad Kahler > *To:* Triumphs > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:50 PM > *Subject:* [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer cable > > The subject line pretty much describes what I need to do. I've checked > with some speedometer shops and either I get someone I can't understand or > they don't understand what I'm looking for. > > What I need is to add one of the VSS signal generators in line with my > speedometer cable so I can finish the installation of the cruise control on > my TR4. The only signal generator I can find has the typical GM style 7/8 > male thread at one end with a 5/8" (I think) male thread on the other end. > > I don't mind sending the speedometer cable and adapter some place to have > it fitted. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Brad > 1963 TR4 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 12:12:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A182D0218 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:12:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from arroyo.ext.ti.com (arroyo.ext.ti.com [192.94.94.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1381F2C0D2C for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dlelxv30.itg.ti.com ([172.17.2.17]) by arroyo.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q7FIEVvN007810 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:14:32 -0500 Received: from DFLE72.ent.ti.com (dfle72.ent.ti.com [128.247.5.109]) by dlelxv30.itg.ti.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7FIEVnv017142 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:14:31 -0500 Received: from DLEE08.ent.ti.com ([fe80::8145:89a6:94e5:8cad]) by DFLE72.ent.ti.com ([fe80::5c48:b90d:af93:5822%30]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:14:31 -0500 From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: speedo cabling Thread-Index: Ac17EdAYDFxEMeG4R3qz81BqNTUDqg== Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:14:30 +0000 Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ECCEE48@DLEE08.ent.ti.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [128.247.5.50] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] speedo cabling X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try Zepco in Richardson, Tx. I've dealt with these guys, they know their stuff. http://www.zepco.com/ Ed (Dallas, Tx) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 12:29:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5332D0305 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:29:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from moose.dimebank.com (moose.dimebank.com [108.68.51.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131992C0D15 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.dimebank.com [127.0.0.1]) by moose.dimebank.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q7FIWJ6V000892 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502BEB34.3090609@dimebank.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:32:20 -0700 From: Chris Kantarjiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer, cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Palo Alto Speedometer (they're in the monster list) will certainly speak that language and work from a long distance. They won't be cheap, though. I've had them do many custom cables to fit various ratio adapters. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 13:31:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99D22D032C for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:31:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AF02D0218 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:27:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2206718vcb.14 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YiXYXqKUT8d42VZMLa27Jsq8VTegTFkJSwjvgegDBnM=; b=LOn1PN0lf1NTiRUTg7R5kACqbYN8/N/bO/PHDXaAoluLMA1mXGFYY0u1pZtlja/xG4 3qq72WaIHxTUEaE4wh7MutxW74qjoPnESqvca2bHDCX4vZ35lVubkC3mmuRBZWd5Go8v vzufFpu/ecw7l9sUKbO20vgI8Z1led39YqzhXSfO3rMOyyoE6Y5jc5u3utAqPQ2BYjKu hPwPJqyYE2sRSm2ElDPhgKQrsqcWCy7KD35Uiv03GgtFyeyuTW9Gh1kzI6VrjFIxDS1s S2QGoPSU6PhOpYQMbkdpImvhxlSS0rElxrv370P8i+50sT/Voskqqn4uPi9Zob62zswY neCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.66.162 with SMTP id g2mr11578301vdt.32.1345059032652; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.247.231 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <502BEB34.3090609@dimebank.com> References: <502BEB34.3090609@dimebank.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Adding a VSS pulse generator inline with speedometer, cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, Thanks for the lead. This morning I found a place in Denver called Deluxe Speedometer & Cable service who said no problem on modifying the cable. I believe I'll give them a try mainly because the one place in California that I talked to (in Gardena?) quoted a starting point of $120 and Deluxe Speedometer quoted $50 to $65 so I think I'll ship the cable and VSS generator to them and see how it turns out. I'll report back after I see how it looks. Thanks for all the responses! Brad On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Chris Kantarjiev wrote: > Palo Alto Speedometer (they're in the monster list) will certainly speak > that language and work from a long distance. They won't be cheap, though. > I've had them do many custom cables to fit various ratio adapters. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/bkahler1@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 14:19:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204C62D031D for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:19:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CB6442C0D12 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:17:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 20:20:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.237] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 20:20:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 20:20:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 950848.68330.bm@omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77398 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Aug 2012 20:20:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345062017; bh=swXtZ+Tv0iRoS+irkEp2CerRE7Tm6Yz2vYRU/1fetj8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uOr1/oN2kGCcdJtwRRtXi/+NzfA9JLiuosSSA0v1G/r+Bbnuo8NMOfsV9RewEAJTbvDBOhC+1vqrS0fygaa/k0bCCWQzYTfCfuGI83aVggzcCc/8zz/RJIbI1zoo88ywJ8n5kXsKqUPLIcDFWmR+WboAAbUVUG1XuCBFebNIIgY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SUOmLX5PzjkIXz8IdqdIjDqqa97DKR1/ZV3/I7jyXP2QULG36pSbv2TFrCCrzCas2943gikG9JZDsW1WEPkYGKN2q4bf2zaF/el/+L23XDNQRFjpKpXGLwG8ORhvZS1YkMtba+3DIyGI2yBECFOoyvWFSy9A+jhnypR3AQP/wLI=; X-YMail-OSG: nC7kqMYVM1lvRWJLKC0jqt0xFc5ewElj3TGgjaIzcr5CPvc _pGkqPMCbyL7yuzZIChceSqNP0nfbFBRXO9yghBGNJsHoFdm93vpccmVoUuJ 8zqN4rqjIBMmHyooH3XGpYrzUaHC5ne00CwLPVrxNxjTv.23mKX.s.YBqWjF vkdbuu.vwjCTbZqf4DmxmbI73n0XosGKX7bMRIk1i7IUHr.I8It9NJEgaRxt GaGJcZP_aE_bkSUZG4gXt8Oy1nAvWpowrB03tuAhAmzqia0JsMsmuzFRB6ug K56AIZjVjQvIl9FvBkqEWipcD5kCuiQmhF5Qc6917dxIyBmSBhKBEau1qtSP HyjJvMMlI_94np7y13BY_QtXKqoog_tTvHZDhufQTOfwsyYKjc7MDXh9P0Hd 6uMsg1lakkj084yqS Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:20:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1345062017.58078.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Bonneville X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net sorry John Mac but speed week came a week late to keep you away from the o-limp-ics. but it looks like the McLeish's are setting a record in a spitfire. at 150.41. big WOW. Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 15:18:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFC92D021A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8D32C0D1E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7FLKlHA003523 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:20:47 -0400 Received: from core-med003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.9]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0B72EE000085 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Message-ID: <3a1d9.45f0157a.3d5d6cae@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:20:46 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 34 X-Originating-IP: [70.227.174.65] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345065647; bh=hYzYGF8Px7onRXpbdaEdn9pc0HArQod36NroV5Rv2LA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UQNdV2e7922OI/EjuyVOWpztXs7+6vMQiT3XM+6oCc3h5en7INCphUNoDwKXYJab0 EkgWOBceFa0zAnOQMQlPPo3vGLiNdGWw+14MVTUzyODRTPPBHY9D6L/Ts/9WSY2qvt UlozLSRbcDaPnTbCUceXlK33wlg5rpT79jGquEyI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:441305888:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d502c12af69f2 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Shift knob restoration X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm told by a member of this forum who's forgotten more about TRs than I'll ever know that the early TR2 knobs were not threaded, but a push-on fit to the shift lever. True, the early cars (too lazy to go look up change number) did not have the need for a lock nut under the shift knob. TRF did stock a non threaded shift knob for that push on. I am sure that only Dave H. or John S. would be the only two that are aware of that stock. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana 54 TR2LD ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 15:57:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1442C0D04 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:57:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 392012C0C2C for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 21:59:53 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.226] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 21:59:53 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.113] by t7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 21:59:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Aug 2012 21:59:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 806674.32010.bm@omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63834 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2012 21:59:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=mymGYxpDB13/rMjMBtGLowKsR72sHQg8ggO4mU0eugNnN+1GkeveDo7khC5CzYx/DyHRhVeudGy0vsXC41K/CpeIQSXgEKs2nol79qrggmLvP+1CLcF8pEtTSc8bIUzZhsBtd72YKVRvQ9bhpcqU95TgxoujUV9MqdUL5z81EwA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345067993; bh=MwLsdV4OwHoDrYcI6v9U8i8mZCOMWwa0WjtSuj1RGMw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=qM3PjQuso0aVqIdCfrb8mm0uc7UXSrTlxnvZmMSZ9b5BdwRFU5swJzrt49CNfWogc4Kr+6w5bwBPD4/3+yc1ouw2xYCJ3euyKN92puKynMKnzlhdmQVmAku91BOWrUfCgDNrUAx8aZCLg5swS9OIUQSuVuLaiEIwCNvldUUFSrY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rvphfc0VM1maIxvdaCUS0j0h.asIMS_Cg7ZFwVxmwgwuIrU C7JnkukgJPrft508ggHwYB_ZOAdjCh6jSyiFnkI8fOBoywTIH9s9ABOcxolF YIvTDtrh5PEjkDiB8Wi4zCIc4FPbA43U.qjfCMZ7au6BOdyZhop8fzBIBJZ8 srDdrv3I2gDXIOBlfnQf6T0WbhzzoIdJXosKR.R.ofDgxCFTUFdPKRKW36GS JPFbvXUlbp8wOr4fM9ONPHfPhA_Zk8DDWtxIqsDEeH6xcYR2GGZXjfSMl6EL .HjvFWy1Jqy_sp9P4W18CPkvbafcEV8ezHWIzc3FnKCD5.ptTxYKIolbWewu l5o2nJKt0tcZA_cS7VUF2ROFNDBC5e3zbB4FgdQkdoxnICHTf8BsauNoEMkn GJZviav05h3jGfWAyTAW.acqFUEn8mF7byJtP30ppD7Wew5O.Kmpr_sRWici e8CggRUVWo3XEaQ7gV3getrCkC.KGs_jGFsVMkStopGQ2yqz0DDvFO9rU3mI GNhV.qT7DZeWMN_lNA8jW1M9Q0iYwS2TEL3kfCBGaQZgwAs.nUw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2012 14:59:53 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Fisher, Ed'" , References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ECCEE48@DLEE08.ent.ti.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:59:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac17EdAYDFxEMeG4R3qz81BqNTUDqgAHqvwg In-Reply-To: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ECCEE48@DLEE08.ent.ti.com> Subject: Re: [TR] speedo cabling X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto, they re-built a VDO speedo for me years ago, never a problem. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fisher, Ed Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:15 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] speedo cabling Try Zepco in Richardson, Tx. I've dealt with these guys, they know their stuff. http://www.zepco.com/ Ed (Dallas, Tx) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 15 21:01:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3872D0160 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:01:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9803A2C0D3A; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7G33HuU021246; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:03:17 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0E6FCE000085; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:03:16 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6-pack@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345086197; bh=fc8l7UeVwcgneLOco+4wbmfwGz7T/z3i7QHOerotaAs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Y5ZvJ/tyBgXALOOe7qaQmrcwPYV3IUkEgGriYqr0jp9UEpuKL7bZ0NZGl2cS9ilgD pu9W8kX06IsJzgT3TFmz9T0Csz240TETDJDCLY0cGUBP9OXuPugWMM3P7itWbUlyQ/ hnLYYDm+C4oMg/2KQnZhcGCFWGcg+pACqeWCGY2o= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:346317792:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2941502c62f47b77 X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Cc: John Phillips Subject: [TR] Linkage Adjustment X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Recently I have posted questions looking for solutions of obtaining full throttle opening on my GT6 with a center pull cable accelerator arrangement (MKIII). So far, no joy. So . . . I have a new question. I have obtained full throttle opening with my '72 TR6 by adjusting the linkage from the cross shaft to the carbs by shortening the linkage rod from the cross shaft to the bell crank (does this make sense?). I now have full opening but the pedal is way high. Has anyone figured out how to lower the pedal by adjusting the linkage from the bell crank to the carbs, or, do I just have to live with it? TIA Sam Clark Green Country Triumphs ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 16 06:03:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493532C6CD2 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:03:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C18E2C0CAA for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 05:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7GBxCox001250 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:59:12 -0400 Received: from core-mod005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.17]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A0A04E000082 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:59:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 07:59:11 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345118352; bh=hJnM6lJqXPcrPvmrXaobRGxVnQoT5lIvFEjGDlsRDcg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bQWRlgGiN0wI7w8ZEwtFh07XrxSfb67y6vrbE93vQy5DIkq9ANUmrIVZ99OoMNhb6 XceRexaARbrqA8ntrUCMTozkoriMVjI8IOMbb4d6bclGUeNSp/NJOs3pr8SrFPLt7A Fti4ospRm2GfwDSf258Gq2X8lPjkBwr7QIT0uaGE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:472589248:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b502ce08f46e0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Linkage Adjustment X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net With the stock linkage you are stuck with the pedal travel you got. There are a couple of things you can do, however. If you adjust the pedal stop you can get the pedal to go lower and then you can lengthen the linkage and lower the ends of travel. Another thing is make sure the lost motion at the cross shaft is minimized. As you recall there is a linkage that allows the pedal linkage to overtravel in the closed direction and will allow the carb throttle shafts to come to rest on the idle adjust screws. There is also a stop for the pedal linkage. If you set the linkage stop to a point where you get a lot of pedal movement before you engage the throttle shafts you pedal height when off throttle will be higher than necessary. If you still aren't happy with that then you can consider modifications which will increase the throttle movement to pedal movement ratio. Or you can switch to the RATCO throttle cable kit. Dave In a message dated 8/15/2012 10:04:08 PM Central Daylight Time, trdoctor@aol.com writes: > Recently I have posted questions looking for solutions of obtaining full > throttle opening on my GT6 with a center pull cable accelerator > arrangement > (MKIII). So far, no joy. So . . . I have a new question. I have > obtained > full throttle opening with my '72 TR6 by adjusting the linkage from the > cross > shaft to the carbs by shortening the linkage rod from the cross shaft to > the > bell crank (does this make sense?). I now have full opening but the pedal > is > way high. Has anyone figured out how to lower the pedal by adjusting the > linkage from the bell crank to the carbs, or, do I just have to live with > it? > TIA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 16 16:45:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769612C0D1B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:45:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920C2C0D13; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:44:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.3.100]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id nanQ1j00B29UNCN01anSNC; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:47:28 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:47:30 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac18AHEqTwSdpU9XQd2NTGgUm2DKPQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After more than a half-century on this earth, I thought I had experienced just about everything there was to experience. That was, until I got my TR250 back from the dyno, correctly jetted and with 160bhp at the wheels. Not that I intend to set speed records, but the sheer exhilaration of driving the car after a 4-year restoration effort defies definitions. Shifting through those gears and feeling the smoothness of that engine (I love my TR3, but these 6 cylinders just exude power). Sorry everyone, but this is why I love these cars. Unbelievable. Andrew Uprichard 1962 TR3B 1968 TR250 1957 smallmouth (undergoing restoration) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 16 18:46:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B31B2D019F for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:46:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40742D019D; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:45:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IOWA+3TG c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ZybQmGz9XH8A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ru0UaVBA_fE1DX2m04wA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54289] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CC/65-02978-2E49D205; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:48:35 +0000 Message-ID: <73664A3AEF7E46C7AB3DC24CC83DA6DB@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:48:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds wonderful, congrats, nothing like things working well after you put them back together, inquiring minds want to know what you did to get 160 bhp and how it runs, smooth idle or lumpy, etc.? Thanks Greg Lemon TR250 (pushing out an estimated 120-125) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 16 19:43:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3EF2C0D12 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:43:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835432C0D1A; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7H1dJJY030220; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:39:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:39:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Andrew Uprichard In-Reply-To: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As they say on Facebook - LIKE!!! gratZ. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > After more than a half-century on this earth, I thought I had experienced > just about everything there was to experience. That was, until I got my > TR250 back from the dyno, correctly jetted and with 160bhp at the wheels. > Not that I intend to set speed records, but the sheer exhilaration of > driving the car after a 4-year restoration effort defies definitions. > Shifting through those gears and feeling the smoothness of that engine (I > love my TR3, but these 6 cylinders just exude power). > > Sorry everyone, but this is why I love these cars. Unbelievable. > > Andrew Uprichard > 1962 TR3B > 1968 TR250 > 1957 smallmouth (undergoing restoration) > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lang@isis.mit.edu ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 16 19:44:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771CE2D01AE for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:44:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FBA2D019D; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:41:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7H1hrG1030234; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:43:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:43:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Andrew Uprichard In-Reply-To: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 160 to the wheels... prey, do tell. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 05:34:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54812D0218 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:34:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BB41E2D0212 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 21404 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2012 11:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.9.1) by p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.89) with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2012 11:36:22 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Robert M. Lang'" References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:36:28 -0400 Message-ID: <004601cd7c6c$8c0ee130$a42ca390$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJbHkbG4unzFsN/LRPOOVmYY1bHsgK6DiZ1lizJjlA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net To Bob and the many others who asked: I owe most of this story to my cousin, Darryl Uprichard, owner of Racetorations in the UK (no financial interest). We talked about the possibilities for the car and he came up with a menu of options for performance versus cost. We settled on +60 forged pistons, cam bearings and a fast-road cam, the head was ported, we went with triple 40 DCOE Webers and we fitted a stainless steel header. Other additions included an electronic distributor, a lightened flywheel and an alloy sump. The car was dyno'd locally: the shop had no experience with Webers, but Racetorations sent a box of jets from which we chose airs, mains and idles and returned the rest. This made a huge difference: for the person who asked, the car now accelerates smoothly throughout the range. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang [mailto:lang@isis.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:44 PM To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] indescribable 160 to the wheels... prey, do tell. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 06:01:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BEE2D0219 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:01:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400612D0216 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:01:11 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ci8aYBtRHTcEadW5t8KAUmX4Loo22e/9sagYiscMnMCEPv63vIaSCkTPacP/03EV; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [98.94.214.29] (helo=[10.10.1.101]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T2LHF-0007Ir-Jf; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:45 -0400 Message-ID: <502E3335.6060005@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:04:05 -0400 From: david brady User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Uprichard , triumphs@autox.team.net References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> <004601cd7c6c$8c0ee130$a42ca390$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: <004601cd7c6c$8c0ee130$a42ca390$@uprichard.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 1593ceba74e4a63f94f5150ab1c16ac0485087bba56e6009dede7748def36e8f3ab30a409c5c4d13350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 98.94.214.29 Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Congrats Andrew, those are terrific numbers. I have a TR250 with similar modifications and dyno-ed at 155 rear wheel brake horsepower. My problem is that I've never been able to get the triple webers to run right - big wide flat spot in the middle rpm range and when getting on the accelerator... It'd be great if you could post your choke, jet sizes, accelerator pumps, etc. Thanks, David Brady '68 TR250, CD8124L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 07:50:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91AB2D0223 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:50:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E312C0B89; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:47:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7HDoR1u031960; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:50:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Andrew Uprichard In-Reply-To: <004601cd7c6c$8c0ee130$a42ca390$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: References: <002f01cd7c01$209464e0$61bd2ea0$@uprichard.net> <004601cd7c6c$8c0ee130$a42ca390$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi - believe it or not, I more or less assumed there was a connection to Racetorations. Family connection: even better! What sort of chassis dyno were you running on? And - we assume a free-flow exhaust, but what compression ratio are you running? And last - what size chokes are you running. Last - what's the torque peak? regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 09:08:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC552C0C9F for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:08:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F202D0283; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7HF8t9q021398; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:08:55 -0400 Received: from core-dod005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.17]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4A858E000082; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:08:55 -0400 (EDT) To: auprichard@uprichard.net, triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [71.175.26.192] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345216135; bh=bsZoCOv0JqCwpXgxCVMhoUvMcRuSTNayVh8lfY81tYc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nhucEM3lG6YgnXnJmyVcpqIjpu4pNoZEnnYzb/DvZnjw3qlIogBlgvVwP+KmUfS6Q ResNPzdB/BAOvQvVmhd58FpBZEfYMCMpl5NKxqFqlQZJpfFluLTyK9fQvYtOHFSgSP EbZR35fwKV+INc++kh29E1098K1E5vCh2LOfRQzM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:407376352:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d502e5e8725ff X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] indescribable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, I did a lot of engine mods to my TR6 motor during restoration and, unfortunately never had a chance to dyno it. I know that it took a few miles to get it sorted out (carb needles, adjustments, timing,etc.) so what did you do and how was the sorting out process!!?? Oh....big congrats and hope you have many miles enjoying the power:) Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1976 TR6 CF57822U In a message dated 8/16/2012 6:48:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, auprichard@uprichard.net writes: That was, until I got my TR250 back from the dyno, correctly jetted and with 160bhp at the wheels. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 09:30:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C0F2D029F for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:30:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CDB2D029F; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7HFVrb9013095; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:31:59 -0400 Received: from core-msb002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.133]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 10E62E000088; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 173.215.5.155 by webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.4) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:31:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joe Alexander X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 36786-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF4AA4920B726A-154C-5BE33@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [173.215.5.155] Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345217519; bh=6BaJnD17O/quvmK0q1Tskt5uvsmbJYrl6INpcWEXGFU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UBAcC4Y8bmlZtF62RjDr2qp58CzMiqx2/93oUy7jakGPjqBY0+rMizPkLLnwlo3Qc CQYFhELZFDX38lgu3VqkYobslZ13KIAR6+7v8OtahK3RiIW0I+G5EdfzvbVsrHVst7 S9DIGu1o9MWFX9G1Z8grDyyF74NCRvnnvyDYLZEQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:170991248:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b502e63ee1f0d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: bfcc@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable.....Now "CALIFORNIA AIR" X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Lists: The ultimate TR250 is featured on a new DVD by UK's John Clancy (TR250K) Kas Kastner's US/TRIUMPH Competition Years...including footage of the recent Kastner Cup The website triumphdvd.co.uk It includes YOUTUBE trailers of all of his TRIUMPH DVDs. Can be ordered directly from John in the UK or through Ted Schumacher or A.R.E. in NORTH AMERICA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 10:56:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3A12D029F for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:56:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC8C2C08FC; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W70 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s15.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:54:53 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.62.204.114] From: marty sukey To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , 6 Digest <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:54:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8CF4AA4920B726A-154C-5BE33@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com> References: , <8CF4AA4920B726A-154C-5BE33@webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2012 16:54:53.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[05FE3A00:01CD7C99] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: bfcc@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] indescribable.....Now "CALIFORNIA AIR" X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And lets not forget those awesome drivers interviews! I'm not sure how I pulled that one off, I think Evelyn must have slipped him a twenty behind my back. THANKS JOHN. Marty > To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net > From: n197tr4@cs.com > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:31:58 -0400 > CC: bfcc@hotmail.co.uk > Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] indescribable.....Now "CALIFORNIA AIR" > > Lists: > > The ultimate TR250 is featured on a new DVD by UK's John Clancy (TR250K) > > Kas Kastner's US/TRIUMPH Competition Years...including footage of the recent > Kastner Cup > > The website triumphdvd.co.uk > > It includes YOUTUBE trailers of all of his TRIUMPH DVDs. > > > Can be ordered directly from John in the UK or through Ted Schumacher or > A.R.E. in NORTH AMERICA > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/trmarty@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 13:54:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6242D02C5 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:54:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F48F2D028A for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7HJu6HQ001337 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:56:06 -0400 Received: from core-dod005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.17]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5F7D2E000088 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: <10a7b.6218b134.3d5ffbd2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:56:02 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [71.175.26.192] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/83133 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345233366; bh=tlWJUmHwh5IeDzfEiQmumQ8SI4FggjL4t6g5TSh9c5Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jMoEwYv1AHbb6wU5/uOLkwY03h+Vx/0eYEhFLusj/RGJTduRp4cKSTqHO8RtPFrDl EBUgP8gjoS3u+/X4+TN7lWpRG/MDtTJoIOYDULlxR/OmHPA++bg8bQ3KYBHfBgh2Ba GMIcUvr/26+57a28GjkGZyH1qyyG5pLYG6fhERxk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:461446432:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb502ea1d432de X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative Subject: [TR] Look What Chip Bought Today! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As the saying goes: I was in the right place at the right time. The owner posted the car on Craigslist Thursday evening....I saw it on Craigslist this morning - drove up to see it and left a deposit - should be able to pick it up next week sometime (after I get insurance card). 1962 TR4 - early car CT2052L.....restored.....so far only two things need to be sorted: it needs a new steering column universal rubber and I don't think the radiator fan extension is from a TR4 - the fan is only about 1/2" from the radiator - way too close. The owner lives in Red Hill, has owned the car since 1991 - he's not a member of DVT....his wife is ill - he doesn't have much opportunity to drive the car.....$12,000! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1248.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1249.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1250.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1251.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1252.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_1253.JPG] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 14:08:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576682D0226 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:08:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3688D2C0CF9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:08:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=9Cqs1mHq4_0A:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=OdomaL8X3IcA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=B3KRi_QBlwt8Lx28aGAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:46409] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 15/04-13948-D55AE205; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:11:09 +0000 Message-ID: <502EA570.5020507@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:11:28 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chip19474@aol.com References: <10a7b.6218b134.3d5ffbd2@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <10a7b.6218b134.3d5ffbd2@aol.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Look What Chip Bought Today! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chip, Sounds like a great deal but could you post the pics on the forum? The Team Net server removes all attachments. Would like to see the car. Got to love those TR4s. Not to many of them around anymore. Steering block is easy to replace, just use a clamp when attaching the bolts. And dont forget the horn ground strap. Is the fan the TR3 version or the TR4? I think some of those early 4s had the 3 fan. Bob On 08/17/2012 03:56 PM, Chip19474@aol.com wrote: > As the saying goes: I was in the right place at the right time. The owner > posted the car on Craigslist Thursday evening....I saw it on Craigslist > this morning - drove up to see it and left a deposit - should be able to pick > it up next week sometime (after I get insurance card). > > 1962 TR4 - early car CT2052L.....restored.....so far only two things need > to be sorted: it needs a new steering column universal rubber and I don't > think the radiator fan extension is from a TR4 - the fan is only about 1/2" > from the radiator - way too close. > > The owner lives in Red Hill, has owned the car since 1991 - he's not a > member of DVT....his wife is ill - he doesn't have much opportunity to drive > the car.....$12,000! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 16:00:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D97B2D02C9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:00:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F352D02C8 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so5413350yhr.14 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=lZUJZcG1S/VQqt9FhP39xBBUyVtrFqjZMcsohJJD+mU=; b=PPmXE1WMryvd0U2Oz4Xp0C7O9xg4wPsLzCPb91wb2CdCEYZLIZUULB7k0fpuF5CKh4 MCtlTBVMdt37r68EpRJQR8eWUEm95KgAtcmLrvne6VT0v3XB9ByjukDSwoVRNM0Q+nHI FS6pzjYIukSDWdBgU7uK0w/lfZCUxVA8QNyofINITWbnkNo3O723HVfzDu6ba4HvzDWf 1HgdfGSWYJgPOnjlvfwwgbcdUkywr8/qHqbxLztTCtaliQYMMIJqbNK/M3SImzG2Blmy 3oht6wq5J5B6a24y3KQRVNQzcWdnP342ucSBN1pNhEW+wDM0qcuHC0Jxi3wrYwfWRMEm jGSw== Received: by 10.236.149.139 with SMTP id x11mr11040724yhj.5.1345240955212; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([97.103.22.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a79sm15917266yhk.16.2012.08.17.15.02.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:02:32 -0400 To: car discussion Sports Triumph Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Subject: [TR] TR3A Tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know this has been asked & answered a bunch of times, but what is recommended tire for a 60 TR3A with good solid wire wheels? What are the reputable online sources for them. The look of the traditional Michelin X take me back to my years in college when I had my first 60 TR3A. :-| John Wise Ormond BeCH, FL 1960 TR3A 1977 Porsche 911S ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 16:38:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70A82D02C8 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:38:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CA32D029F for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so5421701ghr.14 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:41:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=j9UX4CFR8X+PsWwLxywDPQnw8XdT/EYOE7oMQxLEv6U=; b=PJN9d6u6O8kaejaQ+qHPxaS9x4S+LXZUlouQJ1SN1+63nd/exDwpmNTlqjcHOH7GA9 48duKS9OwhmdlssePJLkdTmSPK9e4y0E5r5vx8SJdUKce+ssPgZ3aCR9RYWk7aMYDeF0 iwU38ux68Us1saLrmKOcI6I/8k8NofGkstrqfrIWJV3kp1oJPdfKyx70+KlyA2qlQkv5 1uE+QXhShffP4qwZMqSPbA+4ei8MeWzKYrxflzcUQScd6HR1j6Mo0oVjs/yeUOy8CIMi FwyIkf8ijrdPYWTg4Uu9q4fVtlwiF55CI7oLUOswcjB/z+BJ5ca7/st2+iDDlM+CxMcQ HH+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr3423643igq.16.1345243260440; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:41:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:41:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: John Wise X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, John Wise wrote: > I know this has been asked & answered a bunch of times, but what is > recommended tire for a 60 TR3A with good solid wire wheels? What are the > reputable online sources for them. > For an inexpensive tire -- I got Nexens from these guys... Tires Easy Nexens on the TR3A Have been quite satisfied with them -- quiet, handle well, wear well, easy to balance, etc. For more $$, more tire: Vredestein Sprint Classic > The look of the traditional Michelin X take me back to my years in college > when I had my first 60 TR3A. > Michelin XZX ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 17 20:02:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923142D032E for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:02:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E9A2D02BE for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:58:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so2873106lah.14 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:00:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+dfSfD8TOhO9y8kv01xQzG3urcWI717uQu72mK2jWfw=; b=u8u16LN5RVVFbQRW9+DzJiuD5OdVcNT99ZoSP9XDufA7UOD/he2p7XMObNsPmAAK3U ikfXv4x5jW/IFsoM8wbf2CbpgGjr4KZ5mgAdBbYgQ7fWrQDRP/AqBL+X9AGNSTc4nI8e 4B4e4q/4iCP/zLSYljTdYtrjmztGCnIvVeXpRvTw27ol6D0TfIVuGMj9V3J1KDTSsz/M 9wRS4hK5srwfO79rb0pB89hvF7w5rLL/fVVsULq5COOgLbZR9SgtMWC+wuRL22HrFvZb g6VoT7D44VWbnG38byJHOvJtCF8jz9UU4o18DIw8YMQd5dzxWGvuHUXkpqc3rZenGiNX 2D3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.17.195 with SMTP id q3mr3166456lbd.34.1345255244851; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cross posting this link from the Triumph Register forum for those who haven't seen it yet. Nice to have some video of these cars when they were new. http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00082000/00082794.mp4.m3u8 Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 18 18:46:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9A92D01CC for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:46:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb01.cogeco.net (smtp1.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8F62D018B for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:46:09 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkBAEg3MFBDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOBaFJLQlhAcBAQEDAQ4sKyQLRlcGE4gHEaVUkmyRPWADlVCBFJF7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,792,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="347354822" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [192.168.1.102]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb01.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2012 20:48:48 -0400 References: From: Art McEwen X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <712B76C1-7D35-4CE0-B2AB-15D4C44F29E0@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:48:50 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [TR] tr3 tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nexen's don't look out of place in that pic. My dunlops are on their last season. :( Anybody had any experience with nangkang http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=10072&counter=1 &ar=80&rd=15&sw=false&cs=165 Sent from my iPad On 2012-08-18, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > > For an inexpensive tire -- I got Nexens from these guys... > > Tires Easy > > Nexens on the TR3A > > Have been quite satisfied with them -- quiet, handle well, wear well, easy > to balance, etc. > > For more $$, more tire: > > Vredestein Sprint > Classic ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 18 20:25:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927FF2D0229 for ; 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm running an empty trailer suitable for an lbc from dallas to tuscaloosa next friday. if you need a car moved I can make you a great deal dave northrup dallas, tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 18 20:36:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5682D0220 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:36:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 96AA72C0CAE for ; 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18 Aug 2012 19:34:41 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <712B76C1-7D35-4CE0-B2AB-15D4C44F29E0@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:34:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <712B76C1-7D35-4CE0-B2AB-15D4C44F29E0@cogeco.ca> Thread-Index: Ac19pKr2OsBlE+2SQ0uTi0qQ7D/aSwADgjcg Subject: Re: [TR] tr3 tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I have Nankangs on my car now, whitewalls from DiamondBack Tires, they have performed just great. I had a set of black wall Nankangs before that, excellent performance. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:49 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr3 tires Nexen's don't look out of place in that pic. My dunlops are on their last season. :( Anybody had any experience with nangkang http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=10072&counter= 1 &ar=80&rd=15&sw=false&cs=165 Sent from my iPad On 2012-08-18, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > > For an inexpensive tire -- I got Nexens from these guys... > > Tires Easy > > Nexens on the TR3A > > > Have been quite satisfied with them -- quiet, handle well, wear well, > easy to balance, etc. > > For more $$, more tire: > > Vredestein Sprint > Classic ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 08:11:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821352D017D for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:11:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED76A2C0C8A for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 08:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so3409514lah.14 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:13:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=De+CSTOEa4gpbo7UwsHPTPqlXSSTHo/sGkJ3wCwiEA0=; b=op0Citenwzxg3eVW/34KSN8IImQ05DwYNmnpIwpgGNbqufNKaglU+f+LygxzPYktXQ e7Nnxz6yN5ltPbWoGip6S4iYvHLXqKmBSBkpfsU210ZoED7J452sCoiAqYPXfWvVVaww ctYkTbihgfTHmIhY8K4efInbt1MQnt1B9HPk8mItvoTIe9n4S2iEWvjdy6jNN7icRCuD uieEDj10mKWAh2tDnKT6V+w9Vs0eQxYKcdyY7A1Ifzh+mNuk0lp+J4ra/cq0IwwVClQw Ox7pkfGjqQsj8cwYkyTcbRSDpO4Jhqb1xe6wIIKFBhGcmJRSl98Fn9fk9Csw3Tw06JcS ZswA== Received: by 10.112.86.166 with SMTP id q6mr4823918lbz.6.1345385619116; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:13:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:13:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Don Hiscock Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hmm... I tried the link on my iPad before sending, and it continues to work perfectly, but a few pm's have indicated that it doesn't work for some others. Must be a PC v i-device thing. Here's a link from a Google search using the terms "british pathe triumph tour of europe 1957". It may me more amenable to PC settings for those who haven't seen the video before. http://www.britishpathe.com/video/americans-collect-their-triumph-cars Regards, Don 1962 TR3B TSF202qL On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Cross posting this link from the Triumph Register forum for those who > haven't seen it yet. Nice to have some video of these cars when they > were new. > > > http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00082000/00082794.mp4.m3u8 > > Don > 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:30:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF842D0288 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:30:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0AE2D0137 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.12] helo=mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T39Hv-00058N-CR for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:27:47 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T39Hv-0004ch-7b for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:27:47 -0400 Received: from authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.5]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id ohTm1j00G06ZpSa01hTmVH; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:27:46 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I97ntacg c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=_jFb0ajKEvkA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=rcUikoETIlKqmJwAbdwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9O1N9SI/4ZbXZMy1Cl+5fA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: ohTm1j00G06ZpSa01hTmVH Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T39Hu-00029r-7R for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:27:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Greg Gelhar" To: References: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:27:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: [TR] TR3 horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net O.K. guys, here is a question I've not seen posted before. I want to clean and adjust ten TR3 Windtone horns. I am working out of a quiet suburban residential neighborhood garage and don't want to irritate the other home owners. Has anyone got ideas how I can keep the noise to myself? Greg G. Osseo, MN ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:32:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4172B2D032B for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:32:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F002D0220 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ohQh1j0061ZMdJ4A2hZi3C; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:33:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.42] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ohZh1j0064L5TyG8chZhRH; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:33:42 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:33:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Surrogate buyer near Sussex County, NJ? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Anyone know who the 6pack surrogate buyer is for areas near Sussex Co. NJ. Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:48:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EA62D02BF for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:48:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CC362CFCF5 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:42:44 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.238] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:42:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:42:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 984162.59272.bm@omp1003.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23848 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2012 17:42:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1345398163; bh=evlEw0BKX6h7nUMciGr37dMAI5mfTaQgXr1RxCMsrv0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lIZL6V3jsJ5W5k017vsTSGiX9bKekX+pG/C9GqiQqJeIalmwm6T5NhSINCO8SRJRu8lX99pIF1sVxWjkzoGbgdb2NKgLmOCJgT/0CRgcH8Yrvznhw+BNucsW0QwWCW3YlUpPZLAOuhSfaWoM9pPhz163ek4pF6d70oY/YruILgg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jUcW8MpTyJmWJ7rCXuqrwdvBb6OMWpg5SpbZYkFnZvhqBNNLhTFkwVKaDWebwa+5U0GmGrfK/fwAgRvV3zAAN5DEUeCrmAUyVZp3DHiasqexH0BNlQaMeIfKESJHd0ZMEvca6lmNNsyQNNjTSppKjQM0Tn7iKbkJt+GgY38B72I=; X-YMail-OSG: CIabAF8VM1nCQFKJSXpY5sWIHQGLZ1kLu3GteLj4DMBeTB. ViSJw8xGCimKsYAzwHeGKFPCTP4eCr8B2wN8d_WTCkXK3JtrChCcGJPH56hp ddYUnixJ5AcQAUu_fmes8b1TH1HTcTy1lPp8yzja6uIJcFEDBUXybPRZU.1h TetbecReg_KPg2bCI61.4T1XakTJkiy1YB1nFrQrvfKrno2AFVf6KsPQuvFw td5RN6v6k8tcxiyozhAX8mXqY9hMxepDB_Tkj4hyugoxIuyKXMA5F3RAHdCf izS9lhSWNPqy4Lb6guTKswMTjWoFG93oEabDNl_Oyx.Kah97JRu6T3J2l4s4 rDj_StHyJN2PjYoiwEZ6SiPa9e2xKCyZhU.FKerdfQfKuCTajEJfuG8q62fr GMns3AhHaQ_r_d8nys26y1dObZBNoGHGGCNYoQFg63HlbglZ9cCt5Uz8n0jv aJiZy0vTVB18p9BodfQf6up6zXVuKTEzMyU3cZHXPOKvfJ8vPnqk8qgU3_YG loF3aldX9wC1HRjMxUT0.1m3_3DfAawkMDDzSPezFvhEJA6b7hKSc_Dz0sne EQHlPgef2kFX1dDoth86w_k6FeNT_SShazk1cHOA1M1grXVIfVqr7uaK2MdA GH_2Ag2uzcEpl3Y9BoaYg47xles87R6ot2FKXFfecZ9vgf3Vb2.wVJKF7CCy fZEIMpqCMSE5wcq719rLhFsvAHaw6FirUzQAKMyAL31SO_HC1zCahhoQy4vc avkfchw-- Received: from [90.199.100.180] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:42:43 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: Message-ID: <1345398163.21863.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:42:43 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Don Hiscock , Triumphs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And anyone who's interested in seeing Heralds and Spitfires being built (if not already seen) will find a good short film taken in the 'new' assembly hall built in 1959 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-b_HzLbzJc&feature=related Typing Standard Motor Company into the search bar will probably turn up more than inserting Triumph on its own Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: Don Hiscock >To: Triumphs >Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012, 15:13 >Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link > >Hmm... I tried the link on my iPad before sending, and it continues to work >perfectly, but a few pm's have indicated that it doesn't work for some >others. Must be a PC v i-device thing. > >Here's a link from a Google search using the terms "british pathe triumph >tour of europe 1957". It may me more amenable to PC settings for those who >haven't seen the video before. >http://www.britishpathe.com/video/americans-collect-their-triumph-cars > >Regards, > >Don >1962 TR3B TSF202qL > >On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > >> Cross posting this link from the Triumph Register forum for those who >> haven't seen it yet. Nice to have some video of these cars when they >> were new. >> >> >> http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00082000/00082794.mp4.m3u8 >> >> Don >> 1962 TR3B TSF202L > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:50:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E702C07FA for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:50:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com (mail-gg0-f169.google.com [209.85.161.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B24A2D0182 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ggnf4 with SMTP id f4so5807890ggn.14 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:44:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BnL7oLEOsXQ/baTiRDmg/StGHzVXNEjLTonzEiI/ctM=; b=Nbaq60R8QKBkTjsaG8/dUnUOh0/1cDlkqp3BJN/h6VNF1zLxFWc9fDdCOPLte8U6fB r/Cz6ClufQuAnt+tEhSNdckwmStfVrkOiHDDF5dGkwNqyKx5a0oo/t5mMhpLp41Rb7IN o4tqbR7gZ5QW2H6+DRAP6HfzPWMzo/fbcrTUptHnoioHYcll7JuBkLEt90fG/A75PQze 1hNyzSFgfE2mWDluf/20OIXCvto63NGauA5N11+3EJjeB+RHNgAsquYV1V2ekgrSUJkw xQvWh8txW7PvY7JxrQjrEqZQtSSfnI42Kar/FffSV3gxB5Y3kvFYnFp+Su+cmcudLNg7 QWKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.161 with SMTP id e1mr7568209ign.11.1345398269072; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:44:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Greg Gelhar X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I suppose you could 'stuff a sock in it' -- a rolled up sock or rag jammed into the flare of the horn should have the same effect as a mute on a trumpet -- you'll get the sound in a greatly reduced volume. You'll have to estimate the improvement by first listening to the current sound with the sock in place. Geo On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > O.K. guys, here is a question I've not seen posted before. I want to clean > and adjust ten TR3 Windtone horns. I am working out of a quiet suburban > residential neighborhood garage and don't want to irritate the other home > owners. Has anyone got ideas how I can keep the noise to myself? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:50:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F45A2D0361 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:50:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A5242D0182 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:45:05 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.251] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:45:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:45:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 168470.12948.bm@omp1016.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37059 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2012 17:45:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1345398305; bh=bjecN78+JwTWKoX3YD4KunepSe+65/y8J0eBdILO4GA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OZ4fABXab6M8zZ+1wV+/iNwE3Qk1P74jhk4pqzCOxQBes0CMdKYQeISn0GRhjrgayERMWD2Wd14YSmaSdno+uakRwzZEyHvDc0gU/zUYRFamMnyTXrwCXDMWAlLmgbKDMB+YIpWbygFf+PXwIFX2fwC6ijJZu01AiDXLDQbrCHQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QLwDrbyQPkMlbLetchZGwEtvJo6l4go87O/O3hftM8eBifM1i/XZbVRf8zyf4oyBhBwZvAGXIA8aNHrCaA/6HwYlhqK1zsGUH+PIK1E3laMA+XnvrVXH1P62PyKpPRhK3+LAH56F5WHvxt3thIL3qwooZkgz1fLkcFBoSAQqtUw=; X-YMail-OSG: pKt.QTMVM1kOGhSDiT2j2VG8Eyobs0jhaAKhjc5uEShCn3B jarKm8wVE5uAwovurxT8Ay5P38jXU5XIZ9lBhM1d8XcKgMCHzfvajj8VmQ5m YRJOGfWN8Fvo2bfooxcmTm.ae26RVhtA0_v9Iq_f0eVdcC.EFCJv3VBxEB65 s1MXlNxQk0P0Mfhfr3y_074_pVhmkF52uwyYrWSBMwDTrz0z25fPoDES2wBH zrUOo2poUuKzTTdOPxmaIi7KDQWIE2T6J4isuGtZzztdfVQH5cbN3LLPZvV0 NWVg2DBOIw1EEG4hW8x5bnoybmQwqxAO0hywpjBUyuhAOazGjtbhY3DkrjDQ Ye3pqqOTrfXA6F3CisxUOtVLYfmHDQzmo91zZ2BPEH_vR3faFrt4dTlhVfX1 SjsBQ6.BJQRjRKkJvb.B4sQcICJkmTsBaFLjN2g8wWjBtM2aceoEJzBk0whx wvWlE460W6mv4_0ZS8nIyfrBPGru14nA3jlF6Z7HnEemxbvQqH_QlIEr4u3q QUliN5.bxuQHtLlfvgdwYmjA- Received: from [90.199.100.180] by web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:45:04 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> Message-ID: <1345398304.36735.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:45:04 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Greg Gelhar , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try putting an old pair of someone's undershorts in the bell mouth? Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: Greg Gelhar >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012, 18:27 >Subject: [TR] TR3 horns > >O.K. guys, here is a question I've not seen posted before. I want to clean and adjust ten TR3 Windtone horns. I am working out of a quiet suburban residential neighborhood garage and don't want to irritate the other home owners. Has anyone got ideas how I can keep the noise to myself? > >Greg G. >Osseo, MN >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 11:50:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABF22D04C9 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:50:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 07B7C2D0182 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.192] by nm22.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:49:00 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm5.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:49:00 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:49:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 17:49:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 633550.54776.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27934 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2012 17:49:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=uoV370r3RQAgfgx0Lx54XXV0JQY+OKyebuflxvUgctAhwGuqGQkplgAVaIV2IhmH45j9AWOUxi4Q9spGpV4VVf2mO+Ytt8WJGznGHWUGeN4DfkqNl+AwvBLXptGc25BfE3OdsCcYKvTZ+rqAHBWJWv7HHqpgmKkqTeadVg+/Xqc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345398540; bh=vtvpXoaShsv3yGgy+TMiJbD5Z30xve4mN+B3r+xtVE8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=uGkkv+S/gZJ1WuMUCDu5+lRhhNyB1/fVx2cC6FUPHyt9JWrXRtghEeWqQl8x6LdzMJWhsx0zijXtgI6guWGNLoPwACCuqgmxrE/w6PTqWLC86T40K4Cy3CaXmUHEtsETcwekETWVviLnKz1Lyq3HHxnzTmNgyKjvT1o0kSGwCNA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: HeAfFJQVM1lcBk9Ln314Zeqiy10YzWAZve11Ri14AFctalJ UhajBBUm_Yu4ySpK9SRNK0IdIngwAywPzeDRGjDS0ud8eBzjw65_yxdwbDDd HCE9tQk3UX3cTsf2XGi1f8z9rgjPsN8NrNDHDqS.uLq8bc.hlOyuPLeOa9Cv DsENPVl1lQp0TEYXvD9Nm1VVri445na_b9u9XVDItYjgwPxRxLmqwfATGuKF xNrsbT253nEXMNoJfP_zoyXfNe.NGETqC0oNbCZXCt9vdv5xZzRWH.3dMMXZ iwlMnjnfxpsE5OJZfdZEJoU5Jxhh8wiV6EoZcCxzkDo9YaheyUOOCoqQ6knd EGwquQ_kqSR4rkAI1EPgmrm.lqi.iN_8ZW3hSnR9xIAJ_QVbHM9IqE4PKerK Zr0QmXBa4U7UphYGq5JP1LBMjlPmvrLnVuxIx1gXEmGLSBXXF.Rscx5uAw.G OKHsuk_sA_3DCaqnr2sEZqKQHxlhrIuGl5Ui4SFDpLw4VtIzK9wa9dg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.56.85.83] (wbeech@32.148.168.207 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2012 17:48:59 +0000 UTC References: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <612E17A1-C9D3-4F8B-93B8-D349AA5E3D33@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:49:57 -0500 To: Greg Gelhar Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You might do all your cleaning then drive out to the shopping mall parking lot. Sent from mobile Bill On Aug 19, 2012, at 12:27 PM, "Greg Gelhar" wrote: > O.K. guys, here is a question I've not seen posted before. I want to clean and adjust ten TR3 Windtone horns. I am working out of a quiet suburban residential neighborhood garage and don't want to irritate the other home owners. Has anyone got ideas how I can keep the noise to myself? > > Greg G. > Osseo, MN > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 14:50:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F922D02C2 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:50:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com (mail-pz0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3201D2D01C1 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:50:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so2122558dad.14 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:53:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+KpsG/NNz1RhZMngGmsqNlewCYV9m6ozdbEWKZH0EAk=; b=Z+wrEroioyBlFxR3dD83fykhThsw50uuoN3k7kR3OCYJI7GGtE35AgU+vIQHety1+Z HR06m625+DPGQpTn6oVpHnaBAtWDmFDG/QZKEv2UjZ1dDV2dM+d9VT7o73S4Oz8FbTsO rbDKg3ym4Ckg7QlzbSa9y6iv55ETjvZ/JLPPAUP2zztqZuy/VZWc1+ME8hXxWGFZfsBv FxBvG04tJtB+wGOg/PKSOkzravSxFLXzWc8B4v0PHpmUtD+SlUNYrqb2XyDvBEolMiVg tHGlVB0ac/IELhrKi4vg2RTARKea1n3iJBRhGn8qHieIjydRxivS9AXXaNIHwGzNkOAs 3Xvg== Received: by 10.66.80.193 with SMTP id t1mr24761209pax.69.1345409603654; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-205.phnx.qwest.net. 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Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2e29.195aaa69.3d5e3a8f@cs.com> <612E17A1-C9D3-4F8B-93B8-D349AA5E3D33@flash.net> In-Reply-To: <612E17A1-C9D3-4F8B-93B8-D349AA5E3D33@flash.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Test them out in the engine bay with the bonnet down. They are seldom heard more than a car length away. I ebayed mine and replaced them with air horns out of a mid sixties Maserati. MUCH MORE NOTICABLE. TeriAnn My TR3 speaks with an upper class Italian accent. But at least it is heard. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 15:35:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132B42D02FD for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:35:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C46C2C0C86 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 21:36:18 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.165] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 21:36:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 21:36:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 4558.84896.bm@omp1066.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34360 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2012 21:36:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345412177; bh=ODCADC/DzFSQfs15TlBLxAaSicXQrN4Xk5FI2L4Wivg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cIB96ZtaDRMRVcHff/y/HbuaEvM/oCq090Rwl6vXHZUDXdSid86jWovq+jnN9O00b9kQe1mVbduD8IqxF5Bhj6RzKvxyMe50uLovFplsZEpa7+WDu8QwXrLfq994A05pLCZxbFRGQg9hYLlRmjAUwd4GxvgwWM23HBcX6HFKJmI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G+cXL2qtp71wdENORGeGy2F3Hnqs5uWqYkZrtIFB8l9qxtHAKbZzSSwmlLB4DcpNW0VgphVYSqyG5UFNKuss4U5fhU1Elmm76RM0TAd+bthHaxa+eLdMsWdw8oyeGd5eZpJZuPJJInv/TjEDRnAudL8tps+L42pIabf9vby1lcA=; X-YMail-OSG: ndUJi08VM1mi6pglJNt2VEBx1PW1iLMQxxNCkxWPA.HBjvY GwPSfg57eJU6bonQS3tkEMFRabpbxAZQDism9S6FuhTaLP0_xc1O3OPH3S5E 6R6Duv2rakxe2IAvN_26W2FeTpcOUZ1GwwWhkzFXgi7Uv8.FH48waqA.WzCR YPpJn9HUUdV8rrQuluvCSXLQDWrc.8nMkuW7dezOBG8Ppc8418m1.BfL3lUp IU2PdCRV0ZH_HheUoyOj.HCZrCwHU7hka3St4yxgTitJIO.z7hplOoBMYBcn dhthgePAOJAMmFAa9vir0RUkrdB1tJioITLjOykpwv4iqMSpE.4mpuQ.RL14 TVd0ExL.NL85fUQ5l7cFcSbwbGQEr9dNH8nMwHbWbl7yaS_EgkrkbP5qRlzL mrvEw7rTv4.kznjVTmg8C1Lz3gT9Ayc1pWG2rWA6tfWlUN3yoo.5Lfw-- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:36:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1345412177.33804.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] soda or bead blast X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net working on a friends 49 mayflower. trying to clean up the undercarriage. no rot. little surface rust. original california car. lots of desert dirt and grime lots of undercoat. whats the best way to get back to bare metal? or just clean the undercoat to accept another coat where it flakes off? known locations in southern california that do this work? other options and opinions welcomed thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 16:20:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6A2D02BF for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:20:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8902C0CB1 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:20:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: "G.D. Huggins" In-Reply-To: <1345412177.33804.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:20:22 -0500 Message-Id: <51C43CD8-1FA1-4C68-91AF-7CC84110AB98@genfiniti.com> References: <1345412177.33804.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Frank Fisher X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] soda or bead blast X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, I took all of my steel to a place here in Arlington, Texas called "Metal Rehab". Maybe you check them out and then find their equal where you are.. On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > working on a friends 49 mayflower. > trying to clean up the undercarriage. > no rot. > little surface rust. original california car. > lots of desert dirt and grime > lots of undercoat. > whats the best way to get back to bare metal? > or just clean the undercoat to accept another coat where it flakes off? > known locations in southern california that do this work? > other options and opinions welcomed > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 16:37:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFE42D02CC for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:37:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7765C2D01C1 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 22:39:04 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.240] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 22:39:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 22:39:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 256348.23852.bm@omp1013.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 85678 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2012 22:39:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345415944; bh=3wgvLeaGhvX2I+Oreiy3Un6SWmWk1iO479zr5kW8vL4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jMfSdtH7dO38nqJnxAwF8pQpYLx3+ncnetTzqNEHiD6Ijf3uqCztOLVGD5sGZZNDpr+vM75BeEwe0vNODJjvqaMpTuJEFHRj4wgLOseQGqGdvy7VVidf+FIDvCOF7PVS9l/VJ6Dmb/tFBZmzMjxq+63Wr4J5WzlWGHvrkIdnZ4Y= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b+kcYepsl2+6iu6kKHZRI35XuuJkaexwSLCLhpr5pSV54UQXQVn3L+ODgM7b5Tr2uthbKnQPm3NYhsTMrFDiDaaasiHsYdogjJ19N8AWHFLl3+93udryyRKEQiPLB3IMvD1zLB2tJiY1d3uIfyqHEV/QebjBFufBrsizGTci1fo=; X-YMail-OSG: VViP_cEVM1mpb9ygIsCnHdTa4mSf1SlolI7LGBCzFwTvw9E 67H8wrLEkC55yeu3AzkD_v7t97UaT_ZHeOmmK_knTm7khGW2cSQD3i5Zo_zX mbho_m7s93mj9JeinqxUugnknBhwUgPZNp76c0SsBisnSJVL8WqKXhA5tGBD oFwqYPLxcOylISWrQb_Z9eCCx2zSFogz7uw8TNmekawhxjwu9SBN5TJsqLlx AHecKzUF.A.2osLT6I2ISvvgKBXQ5gdOA5.FyluuBJUnH6yaf.WOkANZcnHk _L1J.WiADJrgVa9YkKbweMRlpFaXGsfK9vHviRSeOeGaJVbxq2UZbdDf_nuu BaOJxDaOjMnTZ1PMxPiJ_l_DS22ipPl43xc02Nx8PsMNHdnT2FPQPYU7SKZ1 5D07tXGW1ZD9YYurA8Lrk5JEF19A9nGlSWZJKvsJXWbAMZiMFmOoXv0Oaemw USfEDmZe8x5_3mA_.ZQcx3KKuOH0t99mZDzrTT2qWKLDsF7LLRlJwfDa0D5n r8piW_ZuP.dgj2JXcCvJoFodUR.DZFmRUiUcjbziNW0DhnA-- Received: from [98.184.150.25] by web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:39:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1345412177.33804.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1345415943.85521.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Chad To: Frank Fisher , Triumphs In-Reply-To: <1345412177.33804.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] soda or bead blast X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank- Any kind of abrasive blast will turn the old remaining undercoat to "goo". If you want to clean it off, you'll have to use putty knives, heat, solvent, and a lot of sweat equity. After its off, a good pressure wash and a coat of POR15 undercarriage paint ought to do it. Chad in Tulsa From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: [TR] soda or bead blast working on a friends 49 mayflower. trying to clean up the undercarriage. no rot. little surface rust. original california car. lots of desert dirt and grime lots of undercoat. whats the best way to get back to bare metal? or just clean the undercoat to accept another coat where it flakes off? known locations in southern california that do this work? other options and opinions welcomed thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 17:26:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3C82D0299 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:26:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541392D01AB for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id okrz1j0051YDfWL55nUfPG; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:28:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.196] ([71.192.208.10]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id onUF1j00G0E03aX3gnUGfm; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:28:17 +0000 From: Anthony Rhodes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:28:32 -0400 To: "greg@gelhar.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Horns X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I stuff the outlet of the horns with paper towel. And I adjust only one at a time. I unplug the other. -Tony ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 18:09:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131602D0297 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:09:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E3B4C2D01C1 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm19.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 00:07:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.137] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 00:07:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 00:07:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 793488.89670.bm@omp1020.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 89514 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Aug 2012 00:07:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345421273; bh=dxbU6IaZktR7L8nAzAPXxq2KKVKrutlDvKFDUE5TA9E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wFDy6s6+gXNoU0GJDE3y4wLhID32eYzOEoCu0m3nC7YfWl5NCNpyctklMu501GhJO+d1mMKPpv8sZ6W2/S0tMlciu6UnyccSKW8MfT/TXhacDh/NLspxWTLYPKq+1cmBabWVVH31ngKM2ZKae9jVSuka+HSwGvr58yZO4/+t+m4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gnphpgR1YEUWQljQBDKdB7ggepheE6kRRc9MJM2m6h7nROnEjq1k4nC69pj66DBwwkBdnR8vMiEC2S8+f4HYs0J6sl5zKDdQnyr4g6G2dis459U3v41UviXrubkVb1uXgWGHYTCUgzp7LwnAVm/BQrxKivSSrsHpThiXLZm3luE=; X-YMail-OSG: 7DDQIc8VM1me7BCP0sdQwhMRyKosWhLVe8KuPoT7xbqcru0 HaQZscPBxv7qq.dSn6sezYj0mxWHAiGdkQkBPEqaeCHevSYvHmksV9G2LpBb xJGvmhTQPoFm6xsIzAQqk_D7ZixqeFPLYJ5S6wJ31TZMEruYRE0cq17jyH5o 0UcsoZnDFkvRICYDgc9Qm4VNQsxLsMBjw6Esz7QbVOW2OpiL1NgSnxlHHegQ 8kRqYdGzBFwwhDhZMtFsE2Ohwhs44SQpmiYF_9MZDeCKDtVAU0IsWdCY9J3I DbvD6QWu7mKPvoE00Fsl7XWAiigUjx06X5UbPOAbF2NT6wuMm1ACGIIPLrLc YLOOSElWyoXs_KeSbKskxiChBa0une8kH_bulHjYrtXuPZtBsJJEAXS8Ejj8 XVqRGjESLSl8HoPGRT4fXDMXumR8xR6bfClPrdvCrgGCMkXM379ooY5H0b_. GLKxfvw-- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:07:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 Message-ID: <1345421272.89413.YahooMailNeo@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] carb insulators X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just wondering how important the carb insulator sections are that go between the SU's and the intake manifold (tr-3) Looks like they maybe be asbestos but not sure and they're maybe 1/4 inch thick. I have a longer intake manifold and can use the extra space for the carbs/firewall area. Just wondering about heat interference issues. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 19 19:57:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254B12D029E for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:57:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepi205.cox.net (fed1rmfepi205.cox.net [68.230.241.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859702D0186 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120820015807.CJMT9100.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:58:07 -0400 Received: from Vista ([70.190.241.231]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id opy71j00250Fepi01py7wz; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:58:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.503199AF.0032,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=TcwURGsh c=1 sm=1 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=D21OMo7ummwA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=QQHaCBx5lhhkz0xsCSgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KrMx87v0KWEA:10 a=_cEzeXwFsUhxsrGo:21 a=TaTkUIQ9Jeu7xnw6:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=m5zAO83kJsdvRfm43BkA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:58:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1+dz20FO7nBPJtTrCNl/G1OwM5PA== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Dave Willner X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to bomb the list, but could Dave Willner contact me. My cell phone number is 520-471-1336 Thanks, Joe Curry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 00:39:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450C22D02BF for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:39:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C7C872D014D for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 16:23:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.217] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 16:23:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2012 16:23:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 244408.36833.bm@omp1026.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49272 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2012 16:23:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345393385; bh=5s2JazskbqRi/+owBXxRgvvB7z8y4o5IDwcK6H05YjY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uLdPdTgUVfx5GVG76/AJCbhuNxyISkS7zCEOt+GRvuDW5KS4psnblg1Q3tI4e4ERc40w15Ew9+SPJPUy8B/OOEv+POUTEsobdZDnQdW2AhDsnHOYZV5uF2TFNz+aahfGT50Ke7FU/BgKSDLsCAyJxPItmkW42rez9SvyxW4xUKw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XwzxwMB7aeljIIgv2oLV845F05SJbrUxfK4bP1VjS8PTukwT7RhKjrqaNg+UYYxCVlqmQwsaaC/W5RwWDiFM3g1/sZRXAi6SRoQrCgmYMM2/hFugywB6kCqrtwypIqJmtAuyKMfh5P8ih7g0g52O4dY6BUY2OL/o+v0EEDPgd9k=; X-YMail-OSG: lY2dqL4VM1lXBv0JdAcMgvu2dsdreBSn_SJBHikPKWMhEsZ .GitjIKCsZSsmGulgxhBFfn9vRtzjPZPHeTQWspxi3Uc2hfIWHyemqpIUJqP 2LjTUqJ8f6KzKzkbL48gJo90n_Kns5M1lRvpVt565nifOALxXSQgb3OPLCEE kobzQqWZsVwKpOXpqBvYyvW.1pvTm_QblP1ZuyihBTEiNgazyXjwdn7xqA3e Vfu34TPqd6Ki7XXRMck72SlIg3q5_GMQGzANjQkG7UQQXkX0KdgOrJgOZwJf .uthHfuT8wMxwsHN1bPJpX9iYq3ebKdBLXAHIi3.GRCG0_fnJNbqsIOlwzbM BgbqFkzqJB7gN3K1YHGKAgelrAF6wuaTryN1dgPPBmiYJl7Qt7QdU_7sJ0a4 vMRG7QJTVJVaJZzPBs6W215eip8Q6i5UeRncSNLmuuY7IrcJ7fBRHCKZWYOp NILdCcKObirmp6a4ZbpoqTsjQQMfqrpnnW1UIeh47AMIG4cVSfAvn3cy7JHZ bduBtmZfdpjk2TWbuO1keIJrI38a7RM9lGfGOqRVtxHeXUVD9zdO4A1_2rKS pDSJwZtlkiSvN0V9br82Bi0prWWB51W8cvAWOJpIpUueFCg-- Received: from [74.110.22.93] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:23:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1345384649.69143.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1345393385.26931.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: Don Hiscock In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Don! Thanks for the quick reply & the link that I was able to open up. Great watching & seeing the 50's style of dress. It brings back memories of how life was back then & the family that I had. I hope the rest of the list viewed it. -Cosmo Kramer >________________________________ > From: Don Hiscock >Subject: Re: 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link > >Hmm... I tried the link on my iPad, and it works perfectly. Must be a PC v i- device thing. If you had the problem, most likely many others did too. I'l repost to the list. > >Here's a link from a Google search using the terms "british pathe triumph tour of europe 1957". It may me more amenable to PC settings. >http://www.britishpathe.com/video/americans-collect-their-triumph-cars > >Don > > > >On 8/19/12, Cosmo Kramer wrote: >> Hi Don! >> I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because when I clicked on your link, I >> received a pop- up message that stated that "Windows can NOT open this up". >> >> So could you send me the correct link to open it up? >> TIA, >> -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 06:22:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9EA2D02C7 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:22:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 460662C6CD1 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 12:25:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.233] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 12:25:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Aug 2012 12:25:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 194385.31548.bm@omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 92276 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Aug 2012 12:25:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345465509; bh=SCZO8bjHwOzaCDlvrf6OdvNjtxG00KMO3FWK8O8KzOU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N3SfTtINKMZzxS5tuOn3eeDUxJVf3JXkdJUagL3EU5Yw+8GQAyJ+tzrisavnkVoCaxUe+udqv8MTTuveQHorwDPdvEI1g6RPdR62LCp3JBKvmBxySesLRdxshPKVAHhYsAOHChUrPMqqKUTCIW9QT6sxqdAmNv1CRZ+xj7pPPNY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CUOkvp15sEHPJSRu8bCNLOa5Y57KEVHHHMc2IvjukVKIX2bJk+5fV+Hgukfw1/dvEt+6WWexpkZCr5+kuGy6tCBPF3MrrTuO5KqD0TzSCavrxlQy15WQRSiYOF3oBWw3II3FeSCi+IsP8MGnEj2gEVyj6VdVTIhFFpU+K3yR8NE=; X-YMail-OSG: gu48dRIVM1kqqvs1vN3DWaOyxdAEWLeswxHIVuGTT1WE2Hc KTbxggWzdAKeiXvxm81a8YChHXbJPaB8abM__5YAgKKRWXHUTX8AgbFuvT4a xASqyGYe4fz2qx_v7CXPH0zXn2nYmR.SfmqpIqKzm37T6_5I3IcKLcBszMlx b2VkVgbwIm0qbVFZN9P69tXsdlKX9PJD8JVCK1m.6fWkYJKDmiTifH31l99G M_OYf4po9Y.sdOPmvBKbbPBVjfsPVtaFgrb1GyxNv_F.BXEgOs9tgbol9f1Z XPPxV30wn38Tzkr7WSuLLmPg0YeZfKUkx2GwTCaR.X5lk94.vdYTxUG4mb1A haqkVKYxMlncgJ1pskwSOcVj2Id02iBdpiM4SPXrlBP8TZq_KwEEYfzt6XD7 RdyhRDUW6IbpOWL1va01jj57oZJCgczjwe1Hr4e3MbBauEHCA3LLTNk.h2Dg KRm3R5jCMl_fhUYjXhSPYhe0pfy9g23PcQ91cwW.CAQ0rsKjNP4sEEnFzOVx lV1M2COcUez85_f6zutQdWkupezBjEAGvcOXfaU6Jl1rhAmm2RXPhYshJqqf GniuKE2CftvuMdkNmOCxk35o_MmsRlZPGwb_V3iJY2MPh0OaudsnrpcxK8vT BxT5VX1I0vee1OaI- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 05:25:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.120.356233 References: <1345384649.69143.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1345393385.26931.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1345465508.83567.YahooMailNeo@web120201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Cosmo Kramer , Don Hiscock In-Reply-To: <1345393385.26931.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net it is a cool look back to times that seemed so much better. more footage of same on the triumphs across America DVD. From: Cosmo Kramer To: Don Hiscock Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [TR] 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link Hi Don! Thanks for the quick reply & the link that I was able to open up. Great watching & seeing the 50's style of dress. It brings back memories of how life was back then & the family that I had. I hope the rest of the list viewed it. -Cosmo Kramer >________________________________ > From: Don Hiscock >Subject: Re: 1957 Triumph TR3 American Tour of Europe video link > >Hmm... I tried the link on my iPad, and it works perfectly. Must be a PC v i- device thing. If you had the problem, most likely many others did too. I'l repost to the list. > >Here's a link from a Google search using the terms "british pathe triumph tour of europe 1957". It may me more amenable to PC settings. >http://www.britishpathe.com/video/americans-collect-their-triumph-cars > >Don > > > >On 8/19/12, Cosmo Kramer wrote: >> Hi Don! >> I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because when I clicked on your link, I >> received a pop- up message that stated that "Windows can NOT open this up". >> >> So could you send me the correct link to open it up? >> TIA, >> -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 12:19:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E0D2D020F for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:19:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8182D0322 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:19:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W81 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.62.204.114] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:21:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2012 18:21:57.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF091CF0:01CD7F00] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 Values X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A buddy is coming over and wants me to give him some guidance on the value of his TR6 as he rarely ever drives it and would rather have the cash and parking space instead of the car. I have had no need to follow what they have been selling for recently so I'm not sure what help I am going to be. Best I can recall I would classify it as a really nice driver. He restored it within the last 10 years. Not a class winner at a VTR event but nicer than anything I have owned. Anybody bought or sold a nice driver in the last year or so that can give me some feedback? Thanks, Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 13:33:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFF52D03D6 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:33:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319E92D038A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170176pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9200D0FJNP91N6@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:33:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.134 ([131.247.90.134]) by vznit170176 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:33:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:33:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: trmarty@hotmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <10235614.940724.1345491205777.JavaMail.root@vznit170176> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [131.247.90.134] Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Values X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Did a quick search of completed auctions on ebay http://motors.completed.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Trucks-/6001/i.html?_ipg=200&_sadis=200&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_samihi=&_samilow=&_fpos=&_oexkw=&_udhi=&_udlo=&_adv=1&_sop=12&LH_Complete=1&_dmd=1&_okw=&_fsct=&_nkw=tr6 sold only: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Triumph-TR6-Triple-Webers-Desirable-early-model-/300761567413?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4606c950b5 $3000 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-TRUIMPH-ROASTER-CONV-/230836786218?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35bef1d42a $9750 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-TRIUMPH-TR-6-CONVERTIBLE-/230836824313?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35bef268f9 $4050 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-1974-TRIUMPH-TR6-ORIGINAL-ENGINE-RUNS-GOOD-VERY-SOLID-LOW-RESERVE-/360479684987?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item53ee43797b $5400 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Triumph-TR-6-Good-restoration-car-parts-LOW-RESERVE-/200803764932?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2ec0d64ac4 $1825 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Triumph-TR6-Restored-Body-Good-drivetrain-/140817981891?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item20c967e1c3 $4550 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Triumph-TR-6-Great-Condition-Solid-Car-/261078263727?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc97a27af $6550 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-triumph-tr6-RUNS-GOOD-PROJECT-NO-RESERVE-/200802335119?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2ec0c0798f $1225 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NICE-1974-TRIUMPH-TR6-ORIGINAL-ENGINE-RUNS-GOOD-VERY-SOLID-LOW-RESERVE-/360479384924?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item53ee3ee55c $5500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CLEAN-AND-FAST-1972-TRIUMPH-TR6-CALIFORNIA-MGB-914-PORSCHE-SPRITE-/221092437017?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item337a22dc19 $13500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-TRIUMPH-TR-6-CONVERTIBLE-/230832927462?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35beb6f2e6 $5000 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Triumph-Tr6-Frame-Off-Nut-Bolt-Restoration-Show-Car-Extremely-Nice-Buy-Now-/230834545459?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35becfa333 $16999 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/red-conv-excelent-condition-there-no-leaks-runs-perfect-/110926284951?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19d3b8c897 $13400 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Triumph-TR-6-frame-off-restoration-no-reserve-Little-white-lightning-/221085418675?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3379b7c4b3 $6801 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-TR6-/190708901405?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c6722e61d $12300 That is since Aug 5. (15 of 55 sold - most of the unsold had higher reserves which may mean overpriced - see first link for full list). except in unusual circumstances I would say ebay prices would qualify as 'wholesale'. Hope this helps. On 08/20/12, marty sukey wrote: A buddy is coming over and wants me to give him some guidance on the value of his TR6 as he rarely ever drives it and would rather have the cash and parking space instead of the car. I have had no need to follow what they have been selling for recently so I'm not sure what help I am going to be. Best I can recall I would classify it as a really nice driver. He restored it within the last 10 years. Not a class winner at a VTR event but nicer than anything I have owned. Anybody bought or sold a nice driver in the last year or so that can give me some feedback? Thanks, Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 18:39:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64642D035E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:39:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B7362D0323 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 00:38:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.164] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 00:38:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 00:38:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 172230.73800.bm@omp1020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87990 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2012 00:38:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=goStc52h45RHWJEbj39J2KDDD4KIzW6YpcMrwbJyYx+uqf04tmHbIVwj1ScMGHRmuUbwhNCHWXuhGJ0x8AgB05oeoL9k7Qtw93UbcN4rEzpw+ZJf+2K8dHeqUlo/CCCga1+h4ZkPiGkRffcic0wMEw7DHxq5A1ayZ9QZGtEB3y0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345509518; bh=y+KV/R8pC0kB70hkkREvatxKsfOkSmPtYRJimolOhHo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=zgef32cbuuKHSAcIZC/YKwYcd432mrdLCIjGj9DTkIo/99blIm3sEXv1cIWR2PXgFhFrwjRQGm5laN6W4CLhzpLg8w2GJU3zlBgCQl9zZ3NCNIyac4fts+Vio8vYmGb9+Kr8ULh8T8BMFJrvrjIVGF3TubhgBLNYA2naxmPqD6g= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: GaaHWB0VM1kFZzKD4C6sgVl2N5K7ArsvKvxvgJJdllRYE9a 4RUM_sJlPQCylkNRWlz4m1c85xZftMPaXufdbp3Qxr0si74L6JudDrnNVpRc XhOYQ3paR0rbXJQLJir7sU8O2mjsUuZvVXBTHEIJC5SDN._OA59iZUybU1JZ nl3HCb7kMQvWPUlhD64BHUEr.k1WQ2hVVERSI1zUy6.MjdtLTxv6PigQbSTv 3BxRUQD.p4RuWUK.DguFpNoaOgTLCrWweL9ihKdcgjBpbUVXrISJY2E.Z42a 7JMLYUq.tVVUmAzlSLPnkrnYm1HCeLuqn.gAwLzwVCZH2o_0f1xUvYMJue9Y LR3tPORl.jL4PxFiSGX0wzwgpPvVpdGRmFZeT6tMJHXrExf2XIve4FkPKQ.g eCn_V5w3M_Qx.m.9drxShnR_B4.fisqHPJzByl6Wy7SY5_pHCQPMFKSibjbv tasdO9jy2PArYixGfjiOe1gEt2mzlSRvb74OCiVKeBg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: qYL3IF2swBDD0sjnQtsccH.JHw-- Received: from [192.168.1.101] (lgmtr6@76.29.134.85 with xymcookie) by smtp116-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2012 17:38:37 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Triumph List Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:38:35 -0400 To: marty sukey Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Values X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I helped a friend sell his original owner 73 TR6 last year. Beautiful car which had been repainted, new interior, new top, rebuilt a engine and transmission and fully detailed engine bay. Not a frame off restoration, but it won many a parking lot trophy. In other words a really nice nice driver. It sold for $15k. I think is was a great deal for the buyer. Larry Miceli Mount Dora, Florida Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2012, at 2:21 PM, marty sukey wrote: > A buddy is coming over and wants me to give him some guidance on the value of > his TR6 as he rarely ever drives it and would rather have the cash and parking > space instead of the car. I have had no need to follow what they have been > selling for recently so I'm not sure what help I am going to be. Best I can > recall I would classify it as a really nice driver. He restored it within > the last 10 years. Not a class winner at a VTR event but nicer than anything I > have owned. Anybody bought or sold a nice driver in the last year or so that > can give me some feedback? > > Thanks, > Marty > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/lgmtr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 19:01:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDF32D035E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:01:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2522D032C; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7L130rr032668; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:03:00 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8E97CE000093; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:02:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:02:58 -0500 To: "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "fot@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345510980; bh=+reOqeGShvKOrtaFKq3mUCGo1QSF8cWzi2bVWKfeSvI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dTAI2nApY7AdtYRFNpJfor6bGxm8V7NLuVJLH7yZYicrhE9ec1JBcjd6LN8QAxFhy QsTTep4bhqcR5aUmmN8gwjyfqwO+y12J03aJsPi8OmIv0RPNBQSQZfsUvWwVIqcoNG F/eV3xas9/ZNxvOXO4fK3bWvXLa+I8gICQWpPoLM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:263917680:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29055032de436c11 X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Subject: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I took the TR6 out today after adjusting the rear brakes. The parking brake was not holding properly so I tightened both sides up two clicks. Upon reaching the bottom of my driveway the car stopped itself. So. . . under the car and backed them both off one click and went for a drive. When I reached end of the street the pedal was low and I pumped it up and it was firm. I drove it for a few miles and the pedal was fading to the floor. It would pump up and hold firm for a moment then fade away again. I got the car home and looked underneath to see if I could spot any leaks that were obvious. Nothing. Master was full. My experience tells me this is an internal master cylinder leak. The pedal holds firm and then fades. Any other advice before I jump on the internet and order a new one? TIA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 19:18:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D42F2D03B9 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:18:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817C62D032C; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:18:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7L1KJhu018019; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:20:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (87.sub-166-248-79.myvzw.com [166.248.79.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 18CACE0000A1; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:20:19 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <08A6CB2A-197F-4824-83CB-B4FB5AB1346E@aol.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Jack Mc Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:20:16 -0400 To: Sam x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345512019; bh=SZSWZTsgwRruwgITWS46xPItuWwCc3pnLYlQsUhbel8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=dseVj5IjvZW8og5cupM9E5q7ZT4W3cmOMnhN4jHnchN2CsazS5/oHllplWB/ywwaJ QR0R/hg6JmY4gRhwKvErUAN1YYIlMFbFyNCxGUDA1AN5bhtVLJnF6AevJ/zCO+Eym/ ui7gDpBiQtciNoBug/xAJ4ZXQ89Uc/04MfHya6dM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:326323360:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29415032e2537fb1 X-AOL-IP: 166.248.79.87 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sent from my iPad On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Sam wrote: > Any other advice before > I jump on the internet and order a new one? Yes Don't order a new one - a lot of them are defective out of the box these days - send that one off and get it re-sleeved with brass and never worry about it again. Cheers ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 19:25:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2664A2D037F for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:25:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178752D033B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120821012307.RPJM24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:23:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id pDP71j00M1bBNls05DP7XM; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:23:07 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=kfTud4QeKxsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ZKkegnJcsNkA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=9R0gS9WcTmWAjuJlM1YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5032E2FB.5070301@charter.net> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:23:07 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120820-1, 08/20/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/20/2012 9:02 PM, Sam wrote: > The pedal holds firm and then fades. Any other advice before > I jump on the internet and order a new one? If the brakes heat up from being too tight, won't the cylinders get hot and cause brake fade> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 20:13:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343B82D0323 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:13:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7292D01FC; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:12:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7L2F5sR006440; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:15:05 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 55F0FE0000E4; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Sam In-Reply-To: <08A6CB2A-197F-4824-83CB-B4FB5AB1346E@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <53F87E0B-925D-4319-B848-B73DAB93577F@aol.com> References: <08A6CB2A-197F-4824-83CB-B4FB5AB1346E@aol.com> To: Jack Mc X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345515305; bh=wpZp+rqYMI+rjYuUchewZmahBvrBijellNezG2BS3gw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=HWV4Y1xm4oc+i8TBMbT9R2tFNf8GDXHw2BfrUKsr0mOIOSsNK0NPiqDUCUKkLEAkd J/pXlVGSswKUrrz4AL8b0a0ICeWK1Vauj+GuiTs9rPVgRPIISEWANAehO2rpKRJznL DFNQYZb+AUcU/8wxMtUjbRd+Pz0y0V3KXLFZXKS8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:349310752:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29425032ef285248 X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Do they have them in stock or do I need to send mine in? I know there is a core charge. Just thinking about the exchange time. Also, send it where? Apple, White Post. . . ? Sam On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Any other advice before >> I jump on the internet and order a new one? > > > > Yes > Don't order a new one - a lot of them are defective out of the box these days - send that one off and get it re-sleeved with brass and never worry about it again. > Cheers > Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 20 20:14:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7A82C0BAC for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:14:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11BB2C04D6; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7L2Gs8p030847; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:16:54 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 446DCE000084; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Sam In-Reply-To: <08A6CB2A-197F-4824-83CB-B4FB5AB1346E@aol.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:16:52 -0500 Message-Id: <0285C5A4-664F-4BFC-A1E0-42C6500A1F44@aol.com> References: <08A6CB2A-197F-4824-83CB-B4FB5AB1346E@aol.com> To: Jack Mc X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345515414; bh=a/ceRM4IDAWUXIpNou07zi/51jW6iMAOndb8BOJfuVg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=jlT87Wt9kW8ej6Am1MIb7XDY1msWa0AQ0QUuFuFPJkl66CFmS2HSxglKxlomkAhli ufv8JYfbuehj6aavoWuODALxJySTcK3B9TLUmdctTDrK6RqhkMhfRFxrwTONoIVEOJ cEnTEWkZy7KVbFCgeZRoFH8ptG/YXgf6pNeEBdxk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:319329440:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33815032ef954702 X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net BTW, I am using DOT5 and have been for years. Sam On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Any other advice before >> I jump on the internet and order a new one? > > > > Yes > Don't order a new one - a lot of them are defective out of the box these days - send that one off and get it re-sleeved with brass and never worry about it again. > Cheers > Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 12:58:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EEC2D01FE for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:58:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from moose.dimebank.com (moose.dimebank.com [108.68.51.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B682D0196 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.dimebank.com [127.0.0.1]) by moose.dimebank.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q7LIU2EI030136 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5033D3AB.6080000@dimebank.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:30:03 -0700 From: Chris Kantarjiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Do they have them in stock or do I need to send mine in? I know there is a > core charge. Just thinking about the exchange time. Also, send it where? > Apple, White Post. . . ? Sierra Specialty is the winner. http://www.dimebank.com/monster/burst/00616.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 15:32:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F09C2D02CD for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:32:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CAD122D02AE for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 21:32:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.62] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 21:32:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 21:32:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345584737; bh=y7tBqQwR+4HnpjUPqUiFEmR1/ZWocjo7x+u0zInT8WY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=mARqYoUUoBVBuR5F37SgvlOGVOuKlMNrZQ0DcUW+ZZJTc9bJWoragDeF3bmHgSfjFvHftHJHxFVHvCNmm3B4LiKg9bSGIxJcMyJk4riamL4ziNn/pXM0TCIDxzskTVNVV7w0755gxcsbabanVZvTcR6ilQg/ancPAayVWVpOKCw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 886357.25287.bm@smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: xnjG_rIVM1lbwt3qMY0tRojobgZvPOEnxwhXfJAIzONC7Q8 CWsI_BYwgzUmQS6wgfKPLOFjDh2aiuWgFKa63cZM3pNSCorAVWv3v9Hx5S_S nOVZd0Ca7SQNDGWnjj1aykqtpYC8hybEL7Nj8xnCUKI6jLue_6hH4Y_xGUjr 1TZH2pVn.INAuQmFPO7dNFGofEBO9mZ9J3X6tmNCXW.XeG0QDiFAF_LLrXcy wFkOmUUd1O2sFqx53uLNEVVRrI_DbjMW09Fr9fx.oLoD.9IClinJHyNGWsJJ mb.6wza.UxEcN3YMeHhzk1_fw8.BgyrIyMs0CPz2WZCcw4CBBNxUtCKsIemw GCNqWfw9ZMiteKGBGNv5rz54QXr1xItRDLHdmhysQnd8N4tPY3VSZ9AeOjT8 GJ0SBf7L_p5Y95dAzr5F5KFI2BI.tOL4sIvKJyxhcAoLEcOKFgpgGmSfiiOz kx5EP20jYzOJoeSd872Gsh7GtOSNHrop61Jj3ivxXiTkl8GwI9UFq2Z_ugHA 9tiMRwv4v1Bjx4cmJ84qXi1vo8DIKvQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: MDGza_qswBAgyXr4jGOoN7xw7ESbp_tRSUhNZ0MvX6drvGE- Received: from bboffice (bill_beecher@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp213.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2012 14:32:17 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:32:28 -0500 Message-ID: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1/5HVrlKvmGIPsTXyzBSRklHal2w== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is there an economical alternative to the stock Jaeger gauges for a TR3 that look reasonable period? I have seen sets that will fit but they all look very modern. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 15:42:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541F82D02D9 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:42:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBC22D02CD for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7LLiirD000629; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (203.sub-166-248-83.myvzw.com [166.248.83.203]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DD7B6E000133; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:43 -0400 (EDT) References: <5033D3AB.6080000@dimebank.com> In-Reply-To: <5033D3AB.6080000@dimebank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Jack Mc Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:40 -0400 To: Chris Kantarjiev x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345585484; bh=WokFHSY34uVJBn5rwv38pcWYQuX5hs+xkcVAmwIcEpM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=WEk0NcHaXPv1FZ21RwHnt3xZ9RaoucGFeBwmqkldBx813eOj1pmarjAuMkV4uTbZQ mwoGfKKD+ovQaBNL7FtEXTQ1MZCpFjgE4DNb4Lm4Lv3LIiNAAxg58PiW0SY7vlzdsG fwBwnUOeo3udWFksB09aFHwzAzNVLtGI+l95pFdQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:482287328:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29415034014b73da X-AOL-IP: 166.248.83.203 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Brakes X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like they're $20 higher than Apple Hydraulic (for a brake master) and higher shipping and longer turn around for us east coasters. Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Chris Kantarjiev wrote: >> Do they have them in stock or do I need to send mine in? I know there is a >> core charge. Just thinking about the exchange time. Also, send it where? >> Apple, White Post. . . ? > > Sierra Specialty is the winner. > > http://www.dimebank.com/monster/burst/00616.html > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 16:09:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805CD2D0286 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:09:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 08FC02D017C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:09:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:12:06 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.240] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:12:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:12:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 686740.71433.bm@omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 5528 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2012 22:12:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1345587126; bh=K67dFSJXBnW4wZDwpSGHrE6kOnFfHuzYVdoJoLHNXwY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tJN6F4yEjkWEpo+n05ZlINUTp2ztrkjS0/Kt8A9CU9kafuY5086UFowVxSOkYyF+TwIJ14hRogcmqhLDqNL/UwWKfZsnkrINWtuDynmPeXnsPbGNqQ8vLNOYx53djCOZI7QokFe2UM+hS2P7mx7qbZ1eoXLJDLXg3A8LAoHc888= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s3/BJXh2usgZJh9RmUoThB4Frq5ME1cmdFEtj+TUGxx6s2i75OPrNlkixeXcPf/qgUEgQA0wby513+jwOiU3ZpHNBzG3j2Se5iGL434mK1wwq3RxacoxXkemtawdFdrU5LsDpTYWTXUgRvvt1meOfNRNQcIPzKHx4eprfobCAhQ=; X-YMail-OSG: dGYts.wVM1mRDlzuKUYNd98ZTIhRf4a9NAmAedJdb87hgyC AkjuXroCa.8HJS28i7QzvZPitBN6Pr_N4aMirsbtqVc3AwKXixGeVwaZbdbQ Y9s.n6jgKNvjY8rYh8lcnmG.y8_iCBe8R0fylSHvQQ0xSM.ORo8nQqh5caHu _VSkSsJ2DCHMLI4mFkRLHkpAnqb4FJtV0F4wLbI_hB0JFXBMk5Hzt2N3OyzE 71nIKOjYFJX77i9SmXNrBl6F2ai2._rseCtAq4QXs_NHteGry9pZq5m.M78. 2jZhDVouqux59_qymuhJTjeyT3aJZseeeMmxdtT4E._wUJBGGCJdASrP46Dm mfASDmlBUINRQG6.QbNrAumvx8_6BgtSTBYfOiAi8g0vejfZ0LoOE1HWKlpq 2siyUcNJz5USFPYLV8gMdTJZehc7ZOVfRVPVuSza.MYbgBDTzXOEZbiXSBEV wH6mwVqrkeBkdFkyIf9y8bL89hA-- Received: from [90.199.100.191] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:12:06 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1345587126.4766.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:12:06 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] The mad Brits are at it again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This post has no Triumph content - but it will be a triumph for car and driver if the plan succeeds, as I surely hope it will. http://www.usa-coast2coast.com/ will tell you the plan that Joy Rainey has to drive her 1903 (4?) Oldsmobile from Los Angeles CA to Daytona FL (I think) in April/May 2013. The website gives you a day by day itinerary and if she's passing through your 'manor' at all, turn out and give her a cheer. It was one thing doing a similar (and longer trip) in a rebuilt Stag, it's quite another doing it in something that's officially an antique. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 16:20:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6722D0221 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:20:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81DD2C0D2B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:20:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7LMMtx8026170; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:55 -0400 Received: from core-dda001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dda001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.1]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9F0FEE000081; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:55 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <4ff14.4531e92a.3d65643f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:55 -0400 (EDT) To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [166.248.83.203] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345587775; bh=LnkYAAVX/yCwR3L+Nhhf/yWXVWkz8nz6FPyKwkVCRtA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TQdPv6Ptbgn0Ob9PjGucLw2ctMLOXNajCiqoLjS79bZzS3NqbFV7FYOErQ0nWOUzu 6+F/c0I8JSW9TB3UW98y6u4Pim61m88EPljmtVTeaEFApZXEW4umyMgGIucQpP9Ivy ktrAiE1MqXXedd0MJFSxkRsuSDskd6Vef4Nc+S8U= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:448732000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e50340a3f07b8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] The mad Brits are at it again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net oh my goodness could she possibly have picked a hotter route for a summertime trip across the USA? I don't think so. just proves - only Mad dogs and Englishmen... Cheers, Jack Mc In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:12:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: This post has no Triumph content - but it will be a triumph for car and driver if the plan succeeds, as I surely hope it will. http://www.usa-coast2coast.com/ will tell you the plan that Joy Rainey has to drive her 1903 (4?) Oldsmobile from Los Angeles CA to Daytona FL (I think) in April/May 2013. The website gives you a day by day itinerary and if she's passing through your 'manor' at all, turn out and give her a cheer. It was one thing doing a similar (and longer trip) in a rebuilt Stag, it's quite another doing it in something that's officially an antique. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 16:41:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A0E2D0215 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:41:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D6512D0201 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:41:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:43:55 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:43:55 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.120] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:43:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2012 22:43:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 83417.35682.bm@omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31904 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2012 22:43:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=IGmJaM012BY/D+prLC++NpTf6tQwFpWRALymlna0Gq8aXF7ArmlE6evqSPnjZXqYB2agYSxvGsn1jv7EopaLH6wMe4/R8wJBcDbShwejHDbwS5e7Caaq95IJVEcWn9fVUcjFf0DhoDXL1PSeXTm6ChPzMmPjxyKPe8x6Nt91fbA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345589035; bh=TWpHJ6NzPU7dbrk1HFnjuEl54P3cveghBqiDhBYNVJo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=FVSzNTtZKVAWMsTAIVBrg/fhleN9kMNPN2C4MUzqaELytKjCRuPY39hP8EP5gCrdTkwGX8C9fYc4TtrG5AekG9AQba94bKGDJeGIc8MEiRxH1Zn+QLV6b+20gZPQ+ldBtghynfEAfEUtGbKeGSH2DQ5bcSdp72Rk+CKOmX2Jbds= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: A9dGSkAVM1kz5lZjkbVWM6KjcUBpKhufC9DR34hNytwQUPW 6bl3F_iLKlk.0kywa1_NhoWCaEDhzyZCTKxQUpaopQx8iD6NIV1hbXmc4qSJ RRDEIrriE1g0vxDcsXexTOHVPgEVx61V5Z6kLFQZ0hXchxZktuJiyOJOoBN9 uzd4hdPx43wb9GzPVMzxZJ0oMkS1hogl8fkVB6eh3l6tGSs_Jc8VQR_v3exc BnVs7n7FpcyMCU0jYcHRsEaX5iZZhhuXT9S3rFWAx5zyLewGxOw67IPL8vRV 98ELqd1uqyilleVg_uWAWliMFa3sNAC1ZwwrsaH_6VZ8MHtW8VWJYHCHDqSu O97VG3Hl9KHIZ.u4iDzHl4vTQHpTyXKWx_zzqt5geSpmoHvyALGKjT09Xabo n6tWfEnFDcRKzspCYR8icb_K2kHXgPuuBFMcwyToQ4X7oXfVna7qIA.LhVV3 Mbtc8pL9cqd8n1Oft1Z3YqrzUbYUu8GYm.A6t8m4Ww.YpKev9wwvNV0szOYy WQiAso5FfEAO3MZy93icEKARt.HBW__m3Qzdr5nA9vDyvUSYITYj407egNg- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2012 15:43:54 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: , , References: <4ff14.4531e92a.3d65643f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: <08757D86336249928D197C147D19C1CF@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4ff14.4531e92a.3d65643f@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac1/65/huJ83PBS9ReGKhXDGFI0exAAAVzCA Subject: Re: [TR] The mad Brits are at it again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Could have been much worse, she's coming through Texas in April/May and not July/August. I see the route is coming close by, I have set a reminder to check again in the spring. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McGaheyRx@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:23 PM To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] The mad Brits are at it again oh my goodness could she possibly have picked a hotter route for a summertime trip across the USA? I don't think so. just proves - only Mad dogs and Englishmen... Cheers, Jack Mc In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:12:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: This post has no Triumph content - but it will be a triumph for car and driver if the plan succeeds, as I surely hope it will. http://www.usa-coast2coast.com/ will tell you the plan that Joy Rainey has to drive her 1903 (4?) Oldsmobile from Los Angeles CA to Daytona FL (I think) in April/May 2013. The website gives you a day by day itinerary and if she's passing through your 'manor' at all, turn out and give her a cheer. It was one thing doing a similar (and longer trip) in a rebuilt Stag, it's quite another doing it in something that's officially an antique. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 21 18:22:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874592D030C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FAD2D02CD for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7M0OBGI027803 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:24:11 -0400 Received: from core-mhe003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.131]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C1A63E000081 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:24:11 -0400 (EDT) References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36786-STANDARD Received: from 74.209.24.175 by webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com (205.188.167.97) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:24:11 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF4E139642A552-1448-A83E8@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [74.209.24.175] Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:24:11 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345595051; bh=6DKLRxpwRiHt5Df2hPRtwvB5aCCAdvXvGdZRKysXAJI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lGCSGm6fzY4cy4kJxLXSmWbPoPMfkt5Gn7wO2hnE2bk5bdOwIZBqgjHRH3ZlGbyRi R54TaGgA1XwbT3FXqgpEMSbwJhulGoNB+27iawojLgL3rGQZgp84rtvhuR/3yBMqiv XdLL8yg0hbz2LRCxu54TM4z72AEZBcDsqrI5o1Zs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:414379168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 2 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c503426ab092c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Google "Stewart Warner gauges"! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: bill_beecher Is there an economical alternative to the stock Jaeger gauges for a TR3 that look reasonable period? I have seen sets that will fit but they all look very modern. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 16:19:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0062D02D8 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:19:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 846AD2D019A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.166] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 771400.731.bm@omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82303 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1345673926; bh=aSQ2k0BQB33HUcJY5hxT7i7gfAy59VM62wK6Pj2DVZs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oxRu4GNVT/XwPf++VDiocAAqZ67rBA1gSdQ4qtqhTZsQbXsaGmnb9TtrQfmLumx9cAF4hXuJNjOR/KNaeMSCbDhTtE62EjIsPgFYk2aAXL4r1tCYKr7z2e/9sT2BfHzvKbIvO5+QSXdb4YuoPXkqoMzZXA4vn5Fa5gMUam9JUFU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bjIkHwIyioN/F0y1z+TwYrJfgba7LE+FTJvHdjTU6iyxbPw1z+MKucKX1Ct/iP67KKMtjQ3OkixM8YUv4bqydwk8qtxAV5LEPcVYXOCNvw1AOHq+rpHYS3IzI4/Xc0h1bQYYle+QaQVA8vlbuGIBgxiMpE3wUWVCCKb6AfQ5xkI=; X-YMail-OSG: 6NMm4foVM1ktHPMAKPN.kKzV7VfG7dGMmPZglDLsaobQfq6 riXdBAowHNq5uJMQIVd_MZ615J_.u4k58ohaXHPcu5g99U43BxuySYX0OG9C dokX5V0trAm.x4.bgyV1wmjvWlld7ZS9GyOnGkFeUALvaZHDyfLZ227e9sJ1 nb1VutN7Pf_8Gd3ciqy_601n86W9VpG9xy3xfXUpB.RHZo_rq18pI9nv.q0o NVdl8MnbWg93lcOb.60HKmOkKrhLOakUVWc5mpKC2Uepj7J1c8dSiZhaqUyu NrBn84np0YUv2NpcV2QYfe.Tkr7HppV8BYVffccWAEkOPArPZegjvN0Uuj.o TnYBvpk1_EjDousidu_e1Z49Aq07WN7q.suvPo8MkhnofymV0lve5K_1jQtt 0ohk6SQl5eeAKFJ28mOqp8g9W3ZakDsWq7PmoqMhUsQffXsnZ5l5c5SmR9vc 5.5CmfIbePZVwll86CLKG92UcS0Yfsl9o.x0Cr8s0utSaLh1.swZ0OzNEEyr dxu3NgEj_6E_36lV53nN6PdPXALWifPUOsw93mvxMcwNmbrYhb7JL4wW9wXZ 7MYuUrGMJSTgl7.w1e6Bm8MR1epGBS_8iH7BWpFR3Cstv57UtOmgkpQ3bIlD _EDgtYTA6LvWwCUUMy0YI4UvcdRXVFBXDornXn1kOl_qV Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:18:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> Message-ID: <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:18:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "bill_beecher@flash.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net not at all economical but i have a hankering for these gages http://www.gaugeguys.com/Smiths/magnolia.htm Frank From: "bill_beecher@flash.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: [TR] TR3 Gauges Is there an economical alternative to the stock Jaeger gauges for a TR3 that look reasonable period? I have seen sets that will fit but they all look very modern. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 16:21:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144382D0429 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:21:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CBE2D014F for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2205C5045; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts02.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.32]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7MMOUfq050183; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts02.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::3d16:45b2:983f:f8d%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:24:30 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Frank Fisher'" , "bill_beecher@flash.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [TR] TR3 Gauges Thread-Index: Ac1/5HVrlKvmGIPsTXyzBSRklHal2wBCk+cAAA6D6ZA= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:24:30 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C387FE96D@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wow - those look really cool - and reasonably priced too. Just paid $600 to have a 4 in 1 gauge re-done for my Morgan +4, comparatively, these seem like a good deal. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 17:03:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426E32D03B5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:03:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 18B8F2D02A7 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 23:02:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.162] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 23:02:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Aug 2012 23:02:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345676525; bh=D8QZND5G1Xe4pby+9Xc2250m5adpkTcj0BeDZOoodIM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=5uhtvD3/R6D92BKpkgMAsnMRKyVyyPE3+03+tFuI6XUJ1PrEgtJ1hHggqkQN5ew07RUfjLBR+aZ+QL19UkSfRpSvFD+Qu4tOy2++QKZEa2NVvzfvOl0AGWzu8XzTXQ2B7SnTHnptPfV+D+0s7RwsNusQ2Bsrik8LTErpBfPLvhM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 778037.48407.bm@smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DbHY.a0VM1lLX4zwuahTV95FEq1Q8k9yujHhc0F9eovtyMf qTRY7LYEXZdQZ0IndVRI6jW.uyXzzB0.SKBZTDCRqiWdA4Tc8T5MDUrwBjHd nZJROxu82XyYAsPnGOOIR4qj0_C3eqHV9rXjeyXvHGMUdI3yJd0T13546kCK flY0LbLcxF7rnsRe.oJfOSc4RaCH8.00ars657MFSC4wXTUY28qFWAPk2Kab siF2ie09VvfkYRO2E4kPViMojdEdJjx2FQLhjmKzwVuYvohmB7sVvXdQJIDZ j4540KrIlYy19RBN5TkPR_WZ781LwILJDUUhKaPYK.cv.TIZBJhlzTQNY3IC h85Y9wYO4Cxzpch0sEkS9Gp.SLEsu2U6JclKnVwCk1LfgskVqKP6JCz4BWmh lGKcZ4wDcudG1GJz5BcB_.9UGEr2ja1HTlxZJJL5cn9OZ_.OoT7olQdNj1X0 ysJWJ9uA8PWRu0xoM6lrl0hSFOsS2Qc3NtN1dJ.WRvDi7f0lJ5bfAacQFhZO aYiGArXWP3OQNAjTN1khEqMstNAVV8DTEz2lYBIWxbT0V1C77ghiMtMzbJqL Q85vVRyArZb9kVjQLkMODONrIZ4.VSzr.O92DHokvD9hxc4yYTvC9p_qt8nM Z1rklyX_nmEUNUSfb0RFizRGVK__92hAz8dwuv2JdibZdX33dZJMZxJRxYFz PkW4hXUpIZWHwzAIasH0dpj_69DAM7zBRGajTvGO_tp5IjK8sfbKs9DGRCO8 NOTMV2snKsWqXSg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: MDGza_qswBAgyXr4jGOoN7xw7ESbp_tRSUhNZ0MvX6drvGE- Received: from bboffice (bill_beecher@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2012 16:02:05 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Frank Fisher'" , References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:02:01 -0500 Message-ID: <1D4609D09F324E2EAAFBB3E23F25E731@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2AtBndHIJx5RSjRvmRX6MeDvU04QABKqlQ X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I saw those and really liked them. I guess economical is a relative term, these are fairly reasonable when put alongside $1000 to have all my originals completely redone. I also found these good looking gauges from Stewart-Warner for under $400. Stewart Warner 82225 - Stewart Warner Wings Analog Gauge Boxed Kits My biggest concern is how accurate will the speedometer be if I don't go with a GPS driven unit for a few extra bucks. Does anyone have any experience in running a cable-driven non-original speedo? Bill _____ From: Frank Fisher [mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:19 PM To: bill_beecher@flash.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges not at all economical but i have a hankering for these gages http://www.gaugeguys.com/Smiths/magnolia.htm Frank From: "bill_beecher@flash.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: [TR] TR3 Gauges Is there an economical alternative to the stock Jaeger gauges for a TR3 that look reasonable period? I have seen sets that will fit but they all look very modern. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 17:13:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0252D03D6 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1B12C0BBC for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DF4C1864; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts02.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.32]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7MNFcB7052574; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts02.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::3d16:45b2:983f:f8d%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:15:38 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'bill_beecher@flash.net'" , "'Frank Fisher'" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [TR] TR3 Gauges Thread-Index: Ac1/5HVrlKvmGIPsTXyzBSRklHal2wBCk+cAAAGCsIAADletYA== Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C387FEA78@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1D4609D09F324E2EAAFBB3E23F25E731@bboffice> In-Reply-To: <1D4609D09F324E2EAAFBB3E23F25E731@bboffice> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The same company offering the gauges should offer different gears to go with your rear end setup and wheel/tire size package. Alternatively, I have seen speedo drive "gear sets" that you would put in line between the speedo drive gear and the speedo (short cable to gearset from trans, short cable from gearset to speedo) Needing to modify the ratios for speedo's is a pretty common issue, particularly with the 4x4 offroading set, where tire/wheel/rearend ratios can vary widely. So if the gauge guy can't help, try an offroad shop. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 19:26:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67FC2D02D5 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:26:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183202D0180 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:19:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so278536vbk.14 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UHrW+ep5qMvoXM/o1Ruq7OquZj9+n3xGIMZ2+2fgm4w=; b=X2aBfyJQIcfSri2fA8TNPmMbqK6KH+dcgzCu/fHiO/rCwEy3wPlYIEZ/naN47YOmi1 HygkwbVfaXoOoAyLDsEEnW3pQsi0tTagbiG7/PcAgfrZMUndxYsUMZb+VetkNp5VU/LN oUa3keKbnGBKBRrXgh5BOFLlDvfm6m6eLoUbwAuGcv8qvVmKmd9HyYfL81xS5nuDSTYF qk91O9nAr3pNOGgoeWDDK3wAHFwVEtKqd4igmecYT7AwGuyzFWO2LS/L3lruykIfBqYz 0TlEp6Hj+uNbvpL21s3TjPdtO9Hcy70WgRr+jVMCGrdWomOX5Idi4wh5d+9FKEgrd98o ByzQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.174 with SMTP id dl14mr4881634vdb.8.1345684951633; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.210.16 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:22:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] How to bench test a windshield wiper motor X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone please test me how to bench test a wiper motor with a park feature? The connector to the wiper had 4 prongs in it. -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 20:20:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3C62D0323 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:20:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2130A2D027C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 02:22:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.130] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm thinking maybe my radiator is crapped out (i'll know in a week or two) and am just wondering if there are alternatives available without spending 400 bucks or more, aftermarket.............salvage yard alternatives?LOL for tr-3. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 20:46:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480182D035A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:46:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb01.cogeco.net (smtp1.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3682D027C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:46:34 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUCABKZNVBDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOI16sECBfa1PlAmROWADlVKTEg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,297,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="347915283" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [192.168.1.102]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb01.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2012 22:49:17 -0400 From: Art McEwen X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <56141388-8E4B-4BCB-9534-592FA3EFF00E@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:49:17 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: [TR] TR3 steel wheel colour X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Before I put new tires on them I'd like to touch up my wheels. Any idea of a modern paint match to the original gray? Thanks, Art ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 22 22:35:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828272D0332 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:35:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD482D019F for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.1] helo=mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T4PBL-00089U-Hf for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:38:11 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T4PBL-0001Cy-Id; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:38:11 -0400 Received: from authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.5]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id q4eB1j00206ZpSa014eBSg; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:38:11 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I97ntacg c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=-102HIUzgVUA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=_U8FgGAz9mYA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=IOescnb3XZrNTFNzXR0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=9O1N9SI/4ZbXZMy1Cl+5fA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: q4eB1j00206ZpSa014eBSg Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T4PBK-0001bU-RC; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3EF7C4157FDF44E098AF05225CEDCE14@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "Art McEwen" , References: <56141388-8E4B-4BCB-9534-592FA3EFF00E@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:38:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 steel wheel colour X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I really like DUPLI-COLOR high performance wheel coating WP101 Silver. The other brands of wheel paint have to be clear coated otherwise the surface finish is too dull. Greg G. Osseo, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art McEwen" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:49 PM Subject: [TR] TR3 steel wheel colour > Before I put new tires on them I'd like to touch up my wheels. Any idea > of a > modern paint match to the original gray? > > Thanks, > > Art > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 02:26:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A4F2D02FB for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:26:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10F62D02C5 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:22:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alexpc (adsl-98-70-58-207.gnv.bellsouth.net[98.70.58.207]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20120823082524H0100md4efe>; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:25:25 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.70.58.207] Message-ID: <53893D1314D3449F9F5D6A870A913AF1@AlexPC> From: "Alex" To: "*Bill Jackett" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:25:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: *Triumphs List Subject: [TR] sign up... X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net here is where all the information is on mechanical issues and help. triumph list................ triumphs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://www.macysgarage.com/ http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/ http://www.triumphrescue.com/ Triumph graveyard and my friend Mike Grove...located in Chambersburg PA Probably 150 Triumphs. Give him my name..... 717-729-0454 The Roadster Factory - get on their mailing list and weekly special email newsletter http://www.the-roadster-factory.com/indexmain.php ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 03:44:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451D2D037F for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:44:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 999512D029E for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.51] by nm24.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 09:42:26 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.117] by tm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 09:42:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Aug 2012 09:42:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780403.86260.bm@omp1026.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63993 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Aug 2012 09:42:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1345714945; bh=dHtUyx0glyBjzVEHwjt6tLZNL1oHFUEXrTNPAIFtbwA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hiX35Bn8SU7l5IMJtlX3ltwEDRqXWhl0F+C9JPyBFUiGxLW0y5OxZcExmWYwh4MasxBFexPWGwip/diXO6B/DigzzkXH3lUvZ6A1Em4JwwhUg2/EWYJc1w0OLlEC1F+cyixleVLmUJ4RasyQinDbYQRYrZqNdjgTFYyT0GP87ZA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X1fxGOh5Dstn6VOffxbL66qfD489a6IxPEBr6Kk1q3EUsvuhxAsptFkH1Oag1tu5KGHoEk0YAed0MnyU3gWd8+scQEVHgPvckHthX7LWAHKxZz3svf8+ChSf3gqRAkec008UAf+hgEPh6m1YqTML92rdNIPQMzoiITzwydeukFE=; X-YMail-OSG: 9c1J7rYVM1m3dPdYllyFAUZHRb3TgFr0LnBSxntC2Rs1fcV dlT6W4GZ1I64aUDiqrk9GCEXfJmCCKCLrV13costf9_pXOeoBbPTZMz5uTBK rSzpYhmZBm1MbAagI08gwK9J_fNxpQbirm9iZvmUpC6Li9D5Kxnlu7bfhFOu V7UVWjOR2pnnS1pz8raTjVq0uksY5bJYB69wXZ_mpvYkISu7wV84yNzN5Vse auyzU5EP74u.KrrJlTrOYDwRe_vDjDzIG04qX3vCme2fw0DeYBvRVG2kJR27 4EVFtyHdIArrz5IrfP1_3c8IjM9lz1Xadkep72zdd6isxkpEUl0w7f294Hzo JYH1FmnnLUyMQ3Rvd57j8QuIqR4Gqf3dB__pp2HHhI1KrlMN407d6zhZJGTL G_hyf Received: from [90.199.100.203] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:42:25 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <076EA99E6D674C2092C259654DC1516A@bboffice> <1345673926.80623.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1D4609D09F324E2EAAFBB3E23F25E731@bboffice> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C387FEA78@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <1345714945.40582.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:42:25 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Jonas Payne , "'bill_beecher@flash.net'" , 'Frank Fisher' , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C387FEA78@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Gauges X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, thwe magnolia gauges look very nice and certainly 'different.' But a word of warning? A good friend in the who regularly campaigned his TR6 on fundraising events for non-profits found a major disadvantage. He'd had his gauges re-done in magnolia and they were fine for daylight. All Night driving stints were a whole different ballgame. Even with the rheostat turned down low, the speedo and rev counter were still too bright while the central auxiliaries were too dim. I was with him on one of these events and had my turn at the wheel. There was just too much light below my required field of vision, so I turned them off - switching on periodically to check oil pressure and engine temp. We agreed that two rheostats was the answer for auxiliaries and mains - but a pain to do. Dave sold his car for another 6 about a year and a half back and chose to clean all his instruments with LED's and new transparents. As many on this list have already done that with excellent results, I can confirm (for my needs at least) that overhauled 'original' instruments are much more preferable - and let's face it, upgrading to magnolia and then finding its not what you thought it was going to be, is an expensive exercise. But it's your car ................ Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 04:16:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0619C2D03D6 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:16:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393922D037E for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alexpc (adsl-98-70-58-207.gnv.bellsouth.net[98.70.58.207]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20120823101713H0600p32l0e>; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:17:13 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.70.58.207] Message-ID: <3A1AA806F3724FAEA909640743664295@AlexPC> From: "Alex" To: "*Triumphs List" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:16:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Sorry guys X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was sending some information to a friend who just got a 3 and mistakenly had the list email address as a cc......... Alex Manzo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 12:19:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AD72D0300 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:19:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ey0-f169.google.com (mail-ey0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9199D2D0322 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by eaaf11 with SMTP id f11so354878eaa.14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=Sscb09QKaNatb0M7Nggx+Ckxf+k8kbN4acnIvCyn99M=; b=kkxy6LS42VOhIE+jtsYw7cD6II+dA2/PjUmUloI4aNIxKF8eqYSvGA4Ge7MgdTk68z uW5G2R08cM301udm90sSx5t/HIZiDc8PsOMz0fX1IKfL6ax+dluFiok41JCldTSunOqt wWs+Vb0nkWtuBPvZM3TewQSo4EgGXqroKl778OT+67wwtJ+1S+poR4ucQQq+rCny4Us2 X4YQVHAauoms77CYxJiVzJeeNwNjcBCjyp0rvL+l7PR8NvLsxu1bzv+vYp5zFZ4zaG2A bxwJyOE9+cRZohBlxe8N0RyeOKTNt7uWuFBaBf93aEqqFWKCXk3NBfJi2iVXbkeNn0+Y 0aOg== Received: by 10.14.180.68 with SMTP id i44mr3279400eem.20.1345746035180; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm23496900eep.13.2012.08.23.11.20.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.9.239.3]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:20:34 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 86.9.239.3 Message-ID: <79CE24CAEDF44FF2A10AA526E980D9B4@AdrianPC> From: "Dixie4" To: "Alex" , "*Triumphs List" References: <3A1AA806F3724FAEA909640743664295@AlexPC> In-Reply-To: <3A1AA806F3724FAEA909640743664295@AlexPC> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:21:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18416 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmoMis7zyT2NI1eOFlhELyRyLqbAndGcKUF2eGB7+Sbrsc90TrcSfbJhUXqz1l1KSvN83mM Subject: Re: [TR] Sorry guys X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Do not be sorry I found one of the web sites very interesting. Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O Wales UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex" To: "*Triumphs List" Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [TR] Sorry guys >I was sending some information to a friend who just got a 3 and mistakenly >had > the list email address as a cc......... > > Alex Manzo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 20:51:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17622D0390 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:51:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF232D01C6 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1008960lbo.14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:46:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mPmP1vkg2CqvWC8rClWOkwUHXQEwukIqp3f8NgG/MBQ=; b=sgRaSlgO9+/KVyqYxZLyOKB+JCLw090bUYnLsw/DMmoxXzFuqgadJxEYVSKld0KZOw 8fFE9vtXFZNtHNTLErcSskgPOMQF2ajwMDaFa5IIuU8wVLxDM+SifSYCGpVQ6IKev236 OJMvxkdNYEwDcBT8t4QcU4AieSW9Sb3AzxRel33/J32cBFiwGDVfdZCruVTMa2FhzNvr EPmR0N88kEnu/36MI99UZcQmdp6Htlbj+ojUxqdXqZVLVvhkCQiot8tbLrQvGupNMo/c ujr5zA3aetjlOu5uUoo3/yLd9DMQnPSF4Sq0tUNmo/BTWLZfE00G3jYfhk9EZiFFvdvq JE2w== Received: by 10.152.46.209 with SMTP id x17mr3810949lam.38.1345776401931; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:46:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.26.200 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:46:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Paint codes on TR differential housings to indicate ratio inside? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A member of our community mentioned in a side conversation that he's observed, but never quite figured out, the code behind a stripe of paint splashed across the differential housings of sidescreen TRs and TR4s. He had a car with one green stripe -- simply a passing brush stroke from 10:00 to 2:00. About 3/4-inch wide x 3-inches long. His recollection was that this indicated a 4.1 rear end. No idea if there was a corresponding color for a 3.7 rear. Anybody capable of adding to or upgrading that? Don Saint Louis 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 23 21:12:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FB92D0408 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:12:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24E02D02BB for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:12:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so4107156obh.14 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:14:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eiYVyGahL5COrtE5W4lIJ7d3SCQb7S/CttWBMqomFxA=; b=IKoNkTD5H6O+Cq0iPd67Jx8iirdyUZgsNPXXc5J+Jp1YOdve6ECFT/9swB7oF1ArFw X2HMkpDrwykntx+k0AzLzyhI1IXlcPxEkto2ZRt8zFCP9lDmcpdBqTkzW7iexXSjNjq3 9KYCvSzGUQ8oCHPkKkZczNUSyEmVoz7ZR/m5kKSeV/2qwRC5oyJBWWM/JlUH7BCqebp1 Wauo6fxA090wDbH7/M6mxun2irhDvD0gdcr+U493+U35ywUbuia3O6IOLofanATW8HjG JC1Xe/c0LCm2Z0v5oz2Db1tshNBEVgmHzCg8dEUvEZc4w+gKUZashjjWfSgTnshGfYp/ 7oJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.161 with SMTP id e1mr614864ign.11.1345778087322; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:14:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Don Hiscock X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Paint codes on TR differential housings to indicate ratio inside? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From the archives... http://www.team.net/html/triumphs/2006-11/msg00585.html No idea if this was ever substantiated. Geo On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > A member of our community mentioned in a side conversation that he's > observed, but never quite figured out, the code behind a stripe of paint > splashed across the differential housings of sidescreen TRs and TR4s. > > He had a car with one green stripe -- simply a passing brush stroke from > 10:00 to 2:00. About 3/4-inch wide x 3-inches long. His recollection was > that this indicated a 4.1 rear end. No idea if there was a corresponding > color for a 3.7 rear. > > Anybody capable of adding to or upgrading that? > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 24 15:48:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BFE2C04A1 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:48:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E732C0CDF for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qbtq1j0030xGWP85DlhTGC; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:41:27 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qlgr1j00s2xV5no3Ylgr0N; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:40:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:41:25 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Triumphs Message-ID: <342001455.938795.1345844485628.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] Overheatng X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net History. Have about three thousand miles on the engine rebuild. When I started it the first time, there was intense squealing for a few seconds that then went way. I figured it for a dry water pump. Squealing has returned. Sounds for all the world like a fan belt issue or a bad bearing on either the water pump or alternator. Tried the stethoscope, couldn't isolate, so swapped out the water pump. Squeal persisted. Stethoscoped the alternator again, couldn't isolate, but then accidently dropped cold water on the alternator and the sound stopped abruptly. What was THAT all about?? So, bought a new GM alternator, adapted it to fit, put the old wide-belt pulley on it, and reinstalled. Same squeal as before. But in the past week, the engine is overheating at idle and in hot weather. I'm running the belt looser than I usually do, but watching the action, the pulleys all seem to be turning, but am wondering if they're not going as fast as they should and the squealing is slippage? Will try belt dressing to see if that changes anything. Question: If I was spinning a crank bearing, either main or rod, it would make much different noises than a belt squeal, right? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 24 16:22:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE002D031D for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:22:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDACB2D0216 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so5265959iah.14 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=c9JLsjMf1+jP0GRxuzAiP1qwnwLW4wBg8XWRE9vHCiI=; b=BbIlwFE9DCN2WdzFTe72dJ39RjokRiKMC8lx9mLzqzx/XbndWYV652CIxOrYCtWHpR Ykht9rKY2KaO4PXARRvuRNJcMh/tezjZxe3Asu4QAxqnczuJCBnuVyvwADl8H11uwH1Y eMqxNyVAtCcIKiFQ/owj9YKu2aKyU8XKqfnZd6/v+GjdPxNEkBdD8wG3Xs3ecYQ4MF+C HFo0/u8G6feLUH4h5cBndUJnPM7si8QzmL9y7S0+bEf7Z7GfkNd+HGZ1fjZYDntx9ifw vZtZWzTSUgl1atqgsH/d1cyWFGd45FEDYZl4gwPHnrn6lKaPR+3feSAEDJPZKJv03glL hYKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.194.136 with SMTP id hw8mr3749888igc.11.1345847109865; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <342001455.938795.1345844485628.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <342001455.938795.1345844485628.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:25:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: terryrs@comcast.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Overheatng X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One simple test is to remove the belt altogether and briefly run the engine -- if the noise is gone that would narrow the search down to water pump, alternator or belt. A suspect belt can sometimes be diagnosed by spraying a bit of WD40 on it while the engine is running. If that immediately elminates the squeal then it is the belt. The WD40 is not a fix, just for diagnosis. I have quieted a noisy belt by (very carefully) hold a sanding block against the sides of the Vee as the engine runs. This scuffs the belt a bit and breaks up the glaze if that is what is cauing the noise. Geo On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM, wrote: > History. Have about three thousand miles on the engine rebuild. When I > started it the first time, there was intense squealing for a few seconds > that then went way. I figured it for a dry water pump. > > Squealing has returned. Sounds for all the world like a fan belt issue or > a bad bearing on either the water pump or alternator. Tried the > stethoscope, couldn't isolate, so swapped out the water pump. Squeal > persisted. Stethoscoped the alternator again, couldn't isolate, but then > accidently dropped cold water on the alternator and the sound stopped > abruptly. What was THAT all about?? > > So, bought a new GM alternator, adapted it to fit, put the old wide-belt > pulley on it, and reinstalled. Same squeal as before. > > But in the past week, the engine is overheating at idle and in hot > weather. I'm running the belt looser than I usually do, but watching the > action, the pulleys all seem to be turning, but am wondering if they're not > going as fast as they should and the squealing is slippage? > > Will try belt dressing to see if that changes anything. > > Question: If I was spinning a crank bearing, either main or rod, it would > make much different noises than a belt squeal, right? > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 24 16:51:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1402D0401 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:51:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from pop2.greatbasin.net (pop2.greatbasin.net [207.228.42.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725612D01FA for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerPC (rno-pppoe1c-125.gbis.net [207.228.62.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by pop2.greatbasin.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7OMmkgQ008969; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:48:46 -0700 Message-ID: <0BD1FFCE5C0F48CBA7083C6C57A61E68@ownerPC> From: "Skip Gurnee" To: , "Triumphs" References: <342001455.938795.1345844485628.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <342001455.938795.1345844485628.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:48:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Overheatng X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One possibility that I've encountered is a misalignment of the two pulleys, like the alternator is cocked to one side, or in a different plane. You should be able to see it from the side. I like George's solutions, and I'm sure others will come up with more. I've had crank bearings go bad; they didn't squeal, and began to knock pretty quick. I doubt that's the problem, especially with the sound disappearing with cold water on the alternator. Skip Gurnee 64 TR4, 65 TR4A Nevada -----Original Message----- From: terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:41 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Overheatng History. Have about three thousand miles on the engine rebuild. When I started it the first time, there was intense squealing for a few seconds that then went way. I figured it for a dry water pump. Squealing has returned. Sounds for all the world like a fan belt issue or a bad bearing on either the water pump or alternator. Tried the stethoscope, couldn't isolate, so swapped out the water pump. Squeal persisted. Stethoscoped the alternator again, couldn't isolate, but then accidently dropped cold water on the alternator and the sound stopped abruptly. What was THAT all about?? So, bought a new GM alternator, adapted it to fit, put the old wide-belt pulley on it, and reinstalled. Same squeal as before. But in the past week, the engine is overheating at idle and in hot weather. I'm running the belt looser than I usually do, but watching the action, the pulleys all seem to be turning, but am wondering if they're not going as fast as they should and the squealing is slippage? Will try belt dressing to see if that changes anything. Question: If I was spinning a crank bearing, either main or rod, it would make much different noises than a belt squeal, right? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 24 17:06:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270EB2D0408 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:06:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298622D0174 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qmqw1j0051c6gX859n4rSK; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:04:51 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qn4T1j0072xV5no3jn4TZp; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:04:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:04:49 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Triumphs Message-ID: <270679703.940755.1345849489894.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <0BD1FFCE5C0F48CBA7083C6C57A61E68@ownerPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: Re: [TR] Overheatng X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you, everyone who responded. After typing the initial question, I went straightaway to the car, sprayed some belt dressing on the belt and pulleys, then started it up. Absolutely zero noise! Belt does need more tightening, I think, but I'm trying to keep as much tension off the bearings as I can. That said.... Thanks again! Terry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 24 21:33:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672242D02A9 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:33:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCF92D0226 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:26:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:28:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: "G.D. Huggins" In-Reply-To: <270679703.940755.1345849489894.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:28:41 -0500 Message-Id: References: <270679703.940755.1345849489894.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: terryrs@comcast.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Overheatng X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another possibility is the belt actually touching the pulleys along the bottom of the belt. The belt is actually NOT supposed to bottom out, but only touch along the sides. On Aug 24, 2012, at 6:04 PM, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > Thank you, everyone who responded. After typing the initial question, I went straightaway to the car, sprayed some belt dressing on the belt and pulleys, then started it up. > > Absolutely zero noise! > > Belt does need more tightening, I think, but I'm trying to keep as much tension off the bearings as I can. That said.... > > Thanks again! > > Terry > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 25 13:56:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC632D0156 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:56:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97D22D0188 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7PJvt3e000825 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:57:55 -0400 Received: from core-dbb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.48.133]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5B62DE00008A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:57:55 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Carl Sereda X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36912-STANDARD Received: from 108.91.70.142 by webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.140) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:57:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF51130D42357F-1798-1B610@webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [108.91.70.142] Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:57:55 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1345924675; bh=kNtZ2qUZdcEhFaM2Ytq2oQGbcvm4KmT728EDO/FkyJk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IjDxMTT61hR9RtL+RJCsN2DRqyMECa6eeOTNUAg3WCTJ3V9qOASdn994rxtmthMp6 VGewRE2khTs1ARf83tb8lqnwy3u5LSgZW7drZ7mGaOv6aLhXRNMqpQdiTM7SOOgmDN 3FJCUEZ3Q8V2VyxdC+Krxr2fv1KT89BSifHvUDrI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:423655904:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca50392e430bf2 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 349 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Terry, I usually set tension of my TR4 fan belt near factory spec; 3/4" deflection on longest run... and as 'loose as possible' while not being able to turn the water pump or generator pulleys 'by hand, with my firmest grip'. Carl '63 TR4 since '74 Belt does need more tightening, I think, but I'm trying to keep as much tension off the bearings as I can. That said... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 25 15:13:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F34C2CFCF5 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:13:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887502C0CE4 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:11:52 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:11:48 -0500 Message-Id: <323229C0-FB14-4635-824C-C513F149446A@genfiniti.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Fuel Sending Issue Solved X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I doubt anyone will remember, but a little under a year ago I posted an issue about my Nisonger rebuilt fuel gauge not reading when full when the tank was. Well, I finally got around to working it out and wanted to inform everyone. The first test was to confirm that the rebuilt gauge was in fact working as advertised. I pulled the lead wire off of the sending unit, and grounded it to the ground wire, and the fuel gauge went all the way full. Gauge confirmed! I pulled the sending unit from the tank and brought it to the workbench. I attached a multimeter, and took the resistance readings: Empty = 252.6 ohms Full = 17.6 ohms Moss part 763-020 is the wrong part for my narrow range (0 - 80 ohms) gauge. Any clue where to get the correct range sender? Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 25 15:47:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7B42D0155 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:47:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E9B7E2C0D4A for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 21:49:40 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 21:49:40 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.123] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 21:49:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Aug 2012 21:49:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 337985.54406.bm@omp1028.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 46064 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2012 21:49:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=2etID6h/pecF/0ZtzVfeP5zjnlRjhERZGsaVMuljls9VPkMFWQg5OUTsP6qxRzj4yj9q1ADavi74YwwSnTXsFX9vbx0S9AWApqSkkzuj5hnNbla4Pz3jiyKy1bRGgtVQho5J/Qths8y4y4JeyNK8QywhuFd2kxMRqVvPM11dzMA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1345931380; bh=ibLW54172q3+dGOx8VFkfMx3gCUirVBhrOWIH3/utIs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=rC44UUA8c8Od+hubjpnYtTi3cLmIwCy2p3MOd99M9E4ZLvQUNmazGbnStGP/rWexvuU7j7jxdaouV8nhF74qZFwCK9b2kztu52eXhCrOsMNmFniXohTULazwJeJUh1IdMGy0rYUtA85ELR6iHTGgM0E9jn/4jm4AH2YM6WHlt/0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: edsm4oAVM1mN6jkTdmz6cc.Rr.oLmHYhHl2sEwdSaSEMxRQ KaBubCNfYpgCpCL9uZJENbPspAHyccr9QZNFzpLL_9Wj7_QQRXsdQ.beG76n MwCCzuIJnfcX04DyDo2JJRbIZzHVEtW03vWNfOQUa1BTDxb.9RcHDgEXST7r avxaho9Ml.4qIX5YKppT04bmyhYqzvuf3e7fa3Pu.EdLu_FsbD8NXVqfS0FB T6DFVvaIc3EPfAeEC1rXTnsHokwm5T5MOXgEhl7HP2nDHZ_4HquyVXNoviuB zLE0MjIIRfDcWPwhHoeRCbtYIg2XzuVGk39LNqEaT.dzEl8iaGmG29Rsh3DA h6eBZ0gh9IFbHVk9J.ZxCFGrhKv_R3DL1IOp.q4gCIB.X4whzXFtEUY74Nar 8_O2QoxUQBXlmP_KB.J4biFuq8IIF7gG.fDuVGSuFi1k65Hns3yvn9mkw.Wu TPSXfnn0ezTh7Zve9ZAnJX4cq2ZwmH3d4yB6xdSlwJ0zg.1t99i0IxasPMLo SwZogh0rEOjF7DpHYBzQ5G1cX4NJhLHIX5ZI7m33tzEdv_.Qp3alSWln4.Z3 kIgPIX84rvCyBh.lVbJXmrjzplzHfyqILgC9iwET0mAhP3_DQU958PA__6bo 8xA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2012 14:49:40 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'G.D. Huggins'" , References: <323229C0-FB14-4635-824C-C513F149446A@genfiniti.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <1B7060E0349B48988D6C5010ECEF3828@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <323229C0-FB14-4635-824C-C513F149446A@genfiniti.com> Thread-Index: Ac2DBwEYRChJRD2rSKqJisyaGYCmkgAAvt0g Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Fuel Sending Issue Solved X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net BPNW, they carry one that should work. TRF, shows to have it as we p/n 203610. Also, I notice that Moss lists a different gauge for the TR3, 763-000. The range you note, 0-80 or in my case 10-90, is correct for a TR3 gauge. It might be a long shot, but someone there might know the ohm range of these two sending units. Of course, it might just be that the one you got from Moss is defective. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G.D. Huggins Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:12 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4A - Fuel Sending Issue Solved All, I doubt anyone will remember, but a little under a year ago I posted an issue about my Nisonger rebuilt fuel gauge not reading when full when the tank was. Well, I finally got around to working it out and wanted to inform everyone. The first test was to confirm that the rebuilt gauge was in fact working as advertised. I pulled the lead wire off of the sending unit, and grounded it to the ground wire, and the fuel gauge went all the way full. Gauge confirmed! I pulled the sending unit from the tank and brought it to the workbench. I attached a multimeter, and took the resistance readings: Empty = 252.6 ohms Full = 17.6 ohms Moss part 763-020 is the wrong part for my narrow range (0 - 80 ohms) gauge. Any clue where to get the correct range sender? Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 25 16:00:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140752D017D for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:00:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from exprod6og102.obsmtp.com (exprod6og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED4E2C1786 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:55:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob102.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUDlKbrmxiI/vBVuqUUCwl2Yh3d33FnUm@postini.com; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:58:08 PDT Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4.adobe.com [193.104.215.14]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q7PLtXk0006708 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas03.corp.adobe.com (nacas03.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.121]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q7PLw2Yr002469 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.95]) by nacas03.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.121]) with mapi; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:58:02 -0700 From: "Brendan O'Shea" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:58:01 -0700 Thread-Topic: [TR6] dist drive gear not engaging? Thread-Index: Ac2DDLIfSRNLU9jnQeOCCNZcxBYZ2A== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] [TR6] dist drive gear not engaging? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all, After a multi-year restoration & engine rebuild on my 73 TR6, I'm to the point of starting the engine. The bad news is : no oil pressure when spinning the engine with the starter motor. My first guess was the new oil pump was bad, so I put another new one in - didn't help. Pulling the distributor & spinning the oil pump with a 0.5" dowel brings up the pressure, so the pump itself is working. I finally started measuring things - the shaft on the distributor drive gear is 1.375" from the bottom of the shoulder of the gear and has a 0.3125" slot cut in the end; the oil pump shaft is 3.25" from the pump housing to the start of the tongue, the tongue is 0.3125" (matching the slot on the distributor drive gear). I've uploaded annotated photos in case my description doesn't make sense : http://www.flickr.com/photos/85259444@N03/ Heres the problem: the distance from the top of the oil pump bush (what the distributor drive gear sits on) to the top of the installed oil pump shaft's tongue is 1.375", so the distributor drive gear is not engaging the oil pump. The oil pump is mounted flush with the engine block, there is no slop in the oil pump shaft when the oil pump is assembled. The lengths of all 3 oil pump shafts (original, 1st & 2nd replacement) match; the housings are all identical in height, so I think those lengths are correct. The distributor drive gear has a pin through the shaft, so I don't think that has slipped. Does anyone have a distributor drive gear they could measure the shaft on? Is 1.375" the correct length? How about an oil pump - is 3.25" from housing to start of tongue correct? This page : http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/10761/ShowThread.aspx says it should be 110mm (4.33"), but that can't be correct - maybe that is from top-of-rotor. What about the oil pump bush? Should that be flush with the engine block from above or below? Mine is flush from below (oil pump side), about 0.125" high on the distributor drive gear side. Note : I didn't remove this during the rebuild, but I can't swear that the machine shop didn't; I don't feel any gap below the lip of the bush, and it seems if it were any further in, the gear wouldn't mesh with the cam. I've considered pushing the oil pump shaft out 0.125" - it is a press fit to the rotor, so it might work - but it doesn't seem like I should have to do that. Any idea what could be wrong? Thanks in advance, -Brendan O'Shea ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 25 18:54:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7BE2C0CE4 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:54:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BD42C0CDE for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:43:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhm2 with SMTP id hm2so2757987wib.2 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=w7W0lgVS2D6MqL3HFAxbhQN8LQdZrLTPQO31xwuaHlY=; b=oXomgKdArNU0HlkFfAEWQYa7SHS/sFjGiC7x1FAwIqb155FPNc0abIihTlMBmyaXjT 5YirLStyzzy1rXvm3GeZolPHHRGrrwJm98djVp3/u11uHCoz6ncrA2htjr65i7aZOzef ixg1yREv8nqbDB6N7EUIvPFcjHykma95uRsHSLsCTtflTFdZUj/6u5qam+80kABwG6I3 urXZyobK6hCWHNtcuvS8lJdCMxh+D4eB4bnddyzQeLfxdfllvBNSw6wyt+87MDFoex6U zL215mnsPW+lbwjH7ntBzU5bWvffioENhtRXqf3M34f+x1oOtKVO86ZVmuC9PE4B5rvE 6wHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.42.65 with SMTP id i43mr4811766web.208.1345941992048; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CF51130D42357F-1798-1B610@webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF51130D42357F-1798-1B610@webmail-m151.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:46:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: Carl Sereda X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 349 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Me too! On Aug 25, 2012 4:00 PM, "Carl Sereda" wrote: > Hi Terry, > I usually set tension of my TR4 fan belt near factory spec; 3/4" > deflection on > longest run... and as 'loose as possible' while not being able to turn the > water pump or generator pulleys 'by hand, with my firmest grip'. > > Carl > '63 TR4 since '74 > > > Belt does need more tightening, I think, but I'm trying to keep as much > tension > off the bearings as I can. That said... > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 26 08:58:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F96A2C0C28 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:58:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C972C0D43; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.12.215]) by m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id rSyZ1j0074ePQtS01Syaoi; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:58:35 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 10:58:33 -0400 Message-ID: <00e601cd839b$440dff70$cc29fe50$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2DmnhP4BaFlWeqS+eCqWg3KZdgkA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Any one have this problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: After rebuilding the TR250, I noticed a distinct "click" from around my feet and in sync with engine revs. Turned out to be the servo non-return valve. Advice was to keep trying until I found a valve which didn't "click" So far I have tried 5 (thanks to Marv Gruber for two) and still no luck. The TR250 valves have three lugs and twist in a third of a turn, so they are harder to come across than the later, TR6, variety. Does anyone have experience with this and could it be something other than the valve itself, say within the servo ? Or if anyone has a decent valve they'd let me try, that would also be great. Thanks in advance, Andrew Uprichard 1962 TR3B 1968 TR250 1957 small-mouth (slow restoration) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 26 09:29:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB75E2D020E for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:29:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF2C2C0D04 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:24:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=n6rTsfoE7xUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OR6r5GDZbv0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=xd-9cwPcBXbloC6f2Q0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/02-28917-4404A305; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:27:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <00e601cd839b$440dff70$cc29fe50$@uprichard.net> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:27:10 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01cd839f$43544f90$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2DmnhP4BaFlWeqS+eCqWg3KZdgkAAA5hdw In-Reply-To: <00e601cd839b$440dff70$cc29fe50$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Any one have this problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > After rebuilding the TR250, I noticed a distinct "click" from > around my feet > and in sync with engine revs. Turned out to be the servo > non-return valve. I don't have any experience, but my guess is that there is something odd going on with the intake manifold vacuum. That valve should only move when the inlet vacuum goes above or below the vacuum inside the servo, so I think the rhythmic click means the inlet vacuum is going up and down. You should be able to confirm that theory by connecting a vacuum test gauge. I'll further guess that you have a fair amount of "lope" at idle, caused by the aggressive cam profile (this is the engine with 170+ bhp, correct?), which might explain the vacuum variation. One solution might be to add an in-line check valve in the line leading to the servo. Without the direct connection to the servo and firewall, you probably won't be able to hear it operate. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 26 18:20:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4D22D01AB for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:20:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A352D0154 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so8825962obh.14 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rCOT7oUFh/FQoN0vrg9B8ZKkn+nZRF1JRFu91ykIzCI=; b=i7CtN0R95gUmn2Uj5Lf7d3Ff8XElg/99cNIHydL99Cyl7/YMXrv63qPBnke9oRTHPd FDaxSMClzu2u+2ODlCTZN+H9BveIDay6q9E+TL/MIuTv+zVrtcIP992hJNhi5C2qJxsw fGVI7Agf+4F9V6NNsUBoYOgktbjZ1UNhziVYnz29l8chYpYTDB/xjr3fXesGxMhp6eGD WooZ3I9wz7uvkUQxdUeUv9NAVtB+r9MeNLPbkcbC5/cEDRmUwHjVLDqn5EbetzGPuJ9R L4hW3aUIYo3jEMeV/y8+9Z7AHYJGswpog50fVH3pftnKja5g/lIA9gqp8NEy0/iqwDWB Py4Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.139.99 with SMTP id qx3mr8651560obb.102.1346026509378; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.125.194 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:15:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Roger Helman To: Triumph Email List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 light-weight, high-torque, aftermarket starter motor clearance issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am trying to install a TRF light-weight, high-torque, aftermarket starter motor on my TR6 with a free flow exhaust header. I had to rotate the entire starter so the blue wire ( which connects the solenoid to the starter ) is directly over the free flow exhaust.header. The Solenoid and starter motor are parallel in relation to each other and the bottom of the car. I am worried this will cook the blue wire and or starter. Does anyone else have a similar setup? If so what did you do? Thanks Roger -- Roger Helman rhelman@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 26 21:43:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502112C0C15 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:43:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11DD2D016B for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:35:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so9018627obh.14 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uWldWJWAlZz8N38f/L8qTz38tbIxPH967DYpevBH0sg=; b=fU3MxDZA72GWrjrZ9P+85sgSiMMpuF4WQyXtHJhi+4tbxggzABrBZU/JdYDqJqUU9P dD6v0oF8S/Z4CSqV8c2DqyoGrq3G6h+PKi/VaPsZUNvgNQjxw6jD77Z8l1IchzsR3A6p fV4iCqdVYcUX6euQ2Gxz8X6UaAZOUfl8na123uG/JUPIstBoMRhO11g6tx4I92xAzzPH uDaiaQyNdvt04o6wJOUORG1JNhvW8IwT0FEdWq3hE5P5BsQl+HJBVeEo236aYAbuFZQE E88iVr5ekZgCyRNEk+74sU22hPdpmPc2vmxhLY3QJoDaowvj0el1HOaOGkXod66cZyUB T1Ng== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.8.6 with SMTP id n6mr8934507oba.39.1346038720282; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.125.194 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <011f01cd83f5$be2e1650$0601a8c0@randall> References: <011f01cd83f5$be2e1650$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:38:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Roger Helman To: Randall , Triumph Email List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 light-weight, high-torque, aftermarket starter motor clearance issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Randall, those sound like great ideas. Roger On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Randall wrote: > Sounds like a good place for a heat shield. Maybe some fiberglass sleeving > from MMC for the wire, and something like this > > http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Thermo-Tec-7-x-22-in-starter-he > at-shield/_/N-269n?itemIdentifier=953384_0_0_ > for the starter. Or you can bend/cut something yourself from regular > "roofing" tin (ask for "flashing tin" at Home Depot). Even if you have to > attach it to the header (eg cut a thin tab to bend down and fasten with a > hose clamp), it will block a significant amount of heat. > > http://www.alcester-racing-sevens.com/BRISE_starter_2.jpg > > -- Randall > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Helman > > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:15 PM > > To: Triumph Email List > > Subject: [TR] TR6 light-weight, high-torque, aftermarket > > starter motor clearance issue > > > > I am trying to install a TRF light-weight, high-torque, > > aftermarket starter > > motor on my TR6 with a free flow exhaust header. I had to rotate the > > entire starter so the blue wire ( which connects the solenoid to the > > starter ) is directly over the free flow exhaust.header. The > > Solenoid and > > starter motor are parallel in relation to each other and the > > bottom of the > > car. > > > > I am worried this will cook the blue wire and or starter. > > > > Does anyone else have a similar setup? > > > > If so what did you do? > > > > > > Thanks > > Roger > > -- > > Roger Helman > > rhelman@gmail.com > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com > > > > -- -- Roger Helman rhelman@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 08:07:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292B22D0208 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:07:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F782C0D1D; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:02:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Vb91zSV9 c=1 sm=0 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:17 a=xkgW_vOJTMkA:10 a=maL2wXuyDY8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=jOkHRRxnc5kA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=pe159EowzH3TWnZYyjsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.69.175 Received: from [72.130.69.175] ([72.130.69.175:40604] helo=Lambert1) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A6/35-17584-8AE7B305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:05:29 +0000 From: "D&B Lambert" To: <6pack@autox.team.net>, References: <8CF51BDF3FADD9A-968-22DB2@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CF51BDF3FADD9A-968-22DB2@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:03:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2DpvHoncMIaG/QQGGdzHb1vxd+kwAtFIkg Subject: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, Can anyone comment from an experience standpoint on the quality of the repro bumpers for an early TR6? I've heard things from "don't bother, they're made from tin foil" to "not as good as original but it's ok". I'm interested specifically about the rear bumper center section for my '71 TR6. Does anyone have one on their car at this time? Has it been ok? Any vendors better than the others? I'd much rather have the original straightened and re-chromed, but here in SoCal the price of chrome work has gone astronomical. Thanks, Dennis ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 08:24:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DF42D01CA for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:24:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5DF2C0D27 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:24:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=_PqGBlyP18kA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1d3insQIdh4A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=SUqXcOAZAAAA:20 a=jEw5lCOsHv01AJ1Gy9AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:44480] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D1/61-28917-EC38B305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:27:26 +0000 Message-ID: <503B83E0.6080902@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:27:44 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: D&B Lambert References: <8CF51BDF3FADD9A-968-22DB2@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> In-Reply-To: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, I have seen SS versions of the early bumpers on Ebay from time to time. But only full sets of rear + front. They are going for about 1K. I have know knowledge of quality. I had both my complete 3 piece rear and front bumpers (4 pieces) re chromed at a local plater for about 900 bucks 5 years ago. They even removed a small dent from the center rear bumper. Chrome is still as delivered. The bumpers did not have any rust or pitting. They were just a bit on the green side, (nickel showing). That is why I chose to have them re chromed. You might want to check with some chrome shops that do motorcycles. They may be able to help you even though they may use out of state resources. Bob On 08/27/2012 10:03 AM, D&B Lambert wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone comment from an experience standpoint on the quality of the repro > bumpers for an early TR6? I've heard things from "don't bother, they're > made from tin foil" to "not as good as original but it's ok". I'm > interested specifically about the rear bumper center section for my '71 TR6. > Does anyone have one on their car at this time? Has it been ok? Any > vendors better than the others? I'd much rather have the original > straightened and re-chromed, but here in SoCal the price of chrome work has > gone astronomical. > Thanks, Dennis > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 12:36:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7352A2D01C9 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:36:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7642C0D4D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:18:14 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=_PqGBlyP18kA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1d3insQIdh4A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=K5ASPOQLGqIO1MI0ODgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:44871] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 54/0B-28917-A8ABB305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:20:58 +0000 Message-ID: <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:20:58 -0400 From: To: 6pack@autox.team.net, triumphs@autox.team.net, D&B Lambert In-Reply-To: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > here in SoCal the price of chrome work has > gone astronomical. I hear it's much cheaper across the border, either to the east or the south. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 12:54:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DA62C0D44 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:54:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 05A632C0D05 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2012 18:51:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.220] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2012 18:51:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2012 18:51:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 516232.35171.bm@omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50028 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Aug 2012 18:51:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346093477; bh=74hPvCkgZgXsRallz+o5G4OWW7hgOb3rIpT5gLKizHQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g7FWdlnhfYoYvomWH334RAquUVTUgQ/9gCmWQQHwoF8cETRlMg3BPum3XPMdC2nU4ZW4cKzmTkm05wBvOrvMm6LJApKIL9y9eBcSQKRiYoh6X+cH1N8EWAyQouh4U7LhnLDkHx/oWATmSCysBIvYNXrOyON5BHffKtzxjBX0ukU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RBXplvUDlwoIDfoktsWGLL97pZDJw6b3/NmvLgj5Z3eLk6D5QNSkQEDTjG/fRT8pNlfAZGUDC/q25ucUjj3gDSQ22BZrDo6YmLzga+Y4rTmiCFKtCQX33HSurzDPdf9TlgkmIUcycHZzitN1n52aajPfirhRQB3xMRh/JPwr4cs=; X-YMail-OSG: W0mf6pcVM1lxnOkJuTWKmj2vpA4xBsPgzHOgYoqgs7TXf6. 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CMddQdvlVc7aomX8g0LFcGWZ4PuE1yjvbPec98VzmCykxeTr06lV2MOb_p5S IJcvxBVC_Kf.VsHc7wGc0mWOwQarpLMM8lMXpMCRUcjb_xbRyGWIiONjBSYD IsEfAgy6c5Qcwvby0LzTIWAnfDYGEcsawTCJym9AC2AeBfl3mUi3tikbGagO GL2sr6TsNAsPs Received: from [74.107.92.129] by web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:51:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Message-ID: <1346093477.17185.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:51:17 -0700 (PDT) From: robert rudolphi To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert rudolphi List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello All, I am considering adding an oil cooler (13 row) to my 74 TR6. TRF has them on sale and now may be a good time to purchase. I run 20-50 and really only drive the car in the summer. I have noticed a drop in pressure as the car warms up to around 10-15PSI at idle. My questions are do I need to add a thermostat? When changing the oil how to you get old oil out of the cooler, or do you need not worry about that? Any other concerns I should be aware of. Thanks in advance for any feedback. Robert Robert Rudolphi 1974 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 13:21:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D5A2D0210 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:21:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0222C0CB3 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7RJMAio019900; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:22:10 -0400 Received: from core-dnc003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dnc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.176.9]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C3916E000081; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Harrymague@aol.com Message-ID: <235ff.64b19d5c.3d6d22e1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:22:09 -0400 (EDT) To: robertrudolphi@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [184.58.16.218] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346095330; bh=Y93fUNr6mwvLEG+a1huDXBhP0A4fW/P1M4OlWg/rY8o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pYscEbtHChklmrlJ5kW1gyJ7xzOESTnkn7tJeJgoIzhzN46qyEv8vlgF5su35M8n0 QHYdhFsxQrrEeQDO5ZT7Rvq2EkdZL5AP7p+CGu53tH2gkVgnyCfyIp3/iocb0PAqiW X97nOrb0pKPdxXb1nrpsWMUMinjRYKwmK/gONwOk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:509936160:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a503bc8e138fb X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Robert, I have that installed on my 74 "6" with the thermostat. I also used 20-50 and have a aluminum radiator. Temp never moves. Oil changes are another matter. No way to get the oil out of cooler unless you could use compress air, I think. Never tried it, just empty what I can and go from there. Mounted the thermostat on the body just above the engine mount. Seemed to work ok there. good luck. Harry Mague In a message dated 8/27/2012 2:57:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robertrudolphi@yahoo.com writes: Hello All, I am considering adding an oil cooler (13 row) to my 74 TR6. TRF has them on sale and now may be a good time to purchase. I run 20-50 and really only drive the car in the summer. I have noticed a drop in pressure as the car warms up to around 10-15PSI at idle. My questions are do I need to add a thermostat? When changing the oil how to you get old oil out of the cooler, or do you need not worry about that? Any other concerns I should be aware of. Thanks in advance for any feedback. Robert Robert Rudolphi 1974 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/harrymague@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 13:37:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB6D2D01EC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:37:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7222C0C2D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-9147.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.51.190] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T6573-0004VW-8l for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:36:41 -0400 Message-ID: <503BCC48.6060309@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:36:40 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4 brake light switch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Wondering if anyone has found a brake light switch that will work on the TR4/4A master cylinder bracket. I have used a big 3 'replacement' switch with very early failure. Has anyone sourced a readily available switch (FLAPS) that might work on the bracket? Thanks for any help with this one - before I order another switch. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 13:38:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AA32D01FE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:38:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD152D0168 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so11044848iah.14 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=E2eSTmFWST/TwXbsTfiQARGCQWdoJX2DvlxYs14goI0=; b=bZoZifFj3DNNiK92Bcj0pLcbplht8/AbNmNPzdF1eOYYQYnPVi2xhG9P6JHPvnL6kE bdufkrTJ0ldGI8YnfRv6CZHidg+BT0CUPy79SfbrZtN7wrn8vxRyVRa4TbeL4D0pFhQ/ 78APs6r9pb1V9iJBoHujqm3dgOMwfqhOERpUlisLwpF98+sZ+r30iJdoy2dqKPMChjBZ tMCuYzNsqftis868zAGLTfs58i+RVP0kdEwOIrgGDPbRIkjDt6cyI/2kF6RuHEI28Ewx UFpoT/s1NvtP3LsCBLkGYmsfyEnh7i4HRLQJtZXDeOmsj6tshRtQF10hSUX2vTiAdZek 5F3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.194.136 with SMTP id hw8mr11285754igc.11.1346096342765; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:39:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:39:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net East being (among other places) Tucson, Arizona: It's been awhile since I had any bumpers done but I had the TR3 & 4 valve covers rechromed earlier this year at Royal Plating and they were $75 each. Royal does it all though there are other local shops that (I've heard) do the prep & final but send it to Royal for the actual plating. Geo On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > > here in SoCal the price of chrome work has > > gone astronomical. > > I hear it's much cheaper across the border, either to the east or the > south... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 13:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CD92C0D19 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:54:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11212C07F9; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q7RJkTTx012878; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:46:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:46:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: robert rudolphi In-Reply-To: <1346093477.17185.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <1346093477.17185.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Whether you need an oil cooler is subject for debate. Going out on a limb here, a street driven motor would probably never see critical oil temps, hence the oil cooler is not needed. If, on the other hand, you have a race motor that sees high-rpm, heavy load operation, then the oil cooler would be called for. The one exception for a street-driven car would be if you tow or you plan to sit in traffic all the time. As a single data point, I have a 12:1 motor in an autocrosser and I do run an oil cooler. With no oil cooler, I would see oil temps in excess of 210 on a hot day. With the oil cooler I do see up to about 180 when it gets really hot and I have two drivers and there's an occasional spike to 200-ish. So the delta T with a 13-row cooler is 10 - 30 derees oil temp. I have a 13-row cooler and I have a thermostatic bypass valve. But to the point - with an oil cooler and the old-style oil (20w50), you're giving up horsepower due to parasitic drag from the oil. There are other side-issues that are related to the oil being too cool. I guess the point is, there's not much to be gained by the oil cooler except possibly the ooh-ahh factor. In any case, if you do run an oil cooler make sure that you have one of the thermostatically controlled bypass thingies because if you don't run one of those and you run your car when it's cold the oil will NEVER get to operating temps and you'll be bypassing the pressure relief valve all the time because the oil pressure will STAY at 100+ psi all the time. This is patently bad, IMHO. Also note that you are adding a maintenance item to your system... regarding maintenance of an oil cooler, with a thermostatic bypass, you need to test the thing to make sure it's actually working, so add that to your monthly to-do list. You also need to keep a sharp eye on the cooler and hoses for problems. The oil flows through the system at line pressure, so a tiny crack in the cooler itself can turn into a gusher at (usually) the worst time. There's also the issue of purging the oil cooler during oil changes so that you get a full, fresh charge of new oil during oil changes... which is one of the points of doing oil changes. But that's my two cents on the matter. Like I said, I have one on the race car. I don't have one on the street car. c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 14:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584362D020F for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:41:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357922D01FE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:25:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.38.3.adsl.snet.net [69.0.38.3]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M39ax-1Twy3M08m7-00st95; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:28:25 -0400 Message-ID: <358E1897DC454F5B92326E91D3BC7579@BobDell> From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Angelo Graham" , References: <503BCC48.6060309@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <503BCC48.6060309@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:28:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:92ml6bTcQk9kvyn3j+JjjXX2WrW17RglAvZ7gERqHiZ ZewH9EdcwI7Mqf5+VMt84bhVmVUdN1s1MXlZm5od/REwUNkdKL br+X+HxR3qXlhttNY9DtJgF/fwjVIezdQUW0s71SP4EmBI6+vH GslaWZujpajF8/xpku48lB4THqoSA79g6fi9juyl/ZPHQwhMMk 00K7q0YgtLKwMfoP6Zybgj/pKzi8Z6ciMyihA5vkf4Z4Ol41qy hlqTFo+Kly2rWJr1F+Xj8BWh1Y1WKgJxO1natBADNSwgLpTbMO LrpD94E42+rBqDdmySQe21p5el2+0GxiOVasMxMcsKDDxAw8TI wOF4gbnc7J0+PHFAbM2cWtV6Bq9MbBR5skojt5M+v Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 brake light switch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the TR4 switch is like the TR6 switch, here's a couple of inexpensive yet quality alternatives http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AltBrakeSwitch.htm Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Angelo Graham Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 3:36 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4 brake light switch Hello List: Wondering if anyone has found a brake light switch that will work on the TR4/4A master cylinder bracket. I have used a big 3 'replacement' switch with very early failure. Has anyone sourced a readily available switch (FLAPS) that might work on the bracket? Thanks for any help with this one - before I order another switch. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 14:52:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D53B2D0214 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:52:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B791A2D01C1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:32:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7406 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2012 20:35:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.6.82) by p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.83) with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2012 20:35:19 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall'" , Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <002001cd8493$7cdc8c60$7695a520$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Ek1qCIhocg8JwQMGceD0QTK5dKQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Randall comes up with the answer again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall: you are amazing. I bought a $6 in-line booster valve (Ford, I believe) and no more noise. Thanks again ! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:27 AM To: 'Andrew Uprichard'; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] Any one have this problem? > After rebuilding the TR250, I noticed a distinct "click" from around > my feet and in sync with engine revs. Turned out to be the servo > non-return valve. I don't have any experience, but my guess is that there is something odd going on with the intake manifold vacuum. That valve should only move when the inlet vacuum goes above or below the vacuum inside the servo, so I think the rhythmic click means the inlet vacuum is going up and down. You should be able to confirm that theory by connecting a vacuum test gauge. I'll further guess that you have a fair amount of "lope" at idle, caused by the aggressive cam profile (this is the engine with 170+ bhp, correct?), which might explain the vacuum variation. One solution might be to add an in-line check valve in the line leading to the servo. Without the direct connection to the servo and firewall, you probably won't be able to hear it operate. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 14:54:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A259F2C0D18 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:54:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 999202C0D2E for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24439 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2012 20:43:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.6.82) by p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.90) with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2012 20:43:20 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Robert M. Lang'" , "'robert rudolphi'" References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <1346093477.17185.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:43:14 -0400 Message-ID: <002b01cd8494$9909e080$cb1da180$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQF9L1bYWz8JKmnGBUAeiyyOyliDjgKAdvrQAfhQh0UDAKA3IJfS/tkQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another consideration is blowing the oil cooler on a cold day if you don't run it with a thermostat. The coolers aren't meant to deal with the high pressure of oil on a cold day. Plus, the first thing you may notice is when that oil warning light comes on....... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert M. Lang Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 3:46 PM To: robert rudolphi Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler Hi, Whether you need an oil cooler is subject for debate. Going out on a limb here, a street driven motor would probably never see critical oil temps, hence the oil cooler is not needed. If, on the other hand, you have a race motor that sees high-rpm, heavy load operation, then the oil cooler would be called for. The one exception for a street-driven car would be if you tow or you plan to sit in traffic all the time. As a single data point, I have a 12:1 motor in an autocrosser and I do run an oil cooler. With no oil cooler, I would see oil temps in excess of 210 on a hot day. With the oil cooler I do see up to about 180 when it gets really hot and I have two drivers and there's an occasional spike to 200-ish. So the delta T with a 13-row cooler is 10 - 30 derees oil temp. I have a 13-row cooler and I have a thermostatic bypass valve. But to the point - with an oil cooler and the old-style oil (20w50), you're giving up horsepower due to parasitic drag from the oil. There are other side-issues that are related to the oil being too cool. I guess the point is, there's not much to be gained by the oil cooler except possibly the ooh-ahh factor. In any case, if you do run an oil cooler make sure that you have one of the thermostatically controlled bypass thingies because if you don't run one of those and you run your car when it's cold the oil will NEVER get to operating temps and you'll be bypassing the pressure relief valve all the time because the oil pressure will STAY at 100+ psi all the time. This is patently bad, IMHO. Also note that you are adding a maintenance item to your system... regarding maintenance of an oil cooler, with a thermostatic bypass, you need to test the thing to make sure it's actually working, so add that to your monthly to-do list. You also need to keep a sharp eye on the cooler and hoses for problems. The oil flows through the system at line pressure, so a tiny crack in the cooler itself can turn into a gusher at (usually) the worst time. There's also the issue of purging the oil cooler during oil changes so that you get a full, fresh charge of new oil during oil changes... which is one of the points of doing oil changes. But that's my two cents on the matter. Like I said, I have one on the race car. I don't have one on the street car. c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 15:01:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E522E2D0206 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:01:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6967A2C0D2E for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:43:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15631 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2012 20:45:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.6.82) by p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.85) with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2012 20:45:49 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Geo Hahn'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:45:37 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01cd8494$f64adce0$e2e096a0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQF9L1bYWz8JKmnGBUAeiyyOyliDjgKAdvrQAeQM+ZaX66abEA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I looked for weeks for a place to do the window frame and stanchions for my latest TR3. Finally found a place in Detroit which did the whole lot for $275. Thought that was a pretty good deal. Can supply details for anyone interested. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 3:39 PM To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Repro Bumper - Quality?? East being (among other places) Tucson, Arizona: It's been awhile since I had any bumpers done but I had the TR3 & 4 valve covers rechromed earlier this year at Royal Plating and they were $75 each. Royal does it all though there are other local shops that (I've heard) do the prep & final but send it to Royal for the actual plating. Geo On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > > here in SoCal the price of chrome work has gone astronomical. > > I hear it's much cheaper across the border, either to the east or the > south... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 15:45:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C58B2C0CE2 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:45:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3ABD2D01CA; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:17:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7RLKJNA005634; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:20:19 -0400 Received: from core-msd002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.5]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 558A9E00008A; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:20:19 -0400 (EDT) References: <3903130063AA4118B93F3C8E45431E7B@Lambert1> <20120827182058.I4WOI.45230.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <1346093477.17185.YahooMailNeo@web160402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> To: lang@isis.mit.edu, robertrudolphi@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 173.215.5.155 by webmail-d018.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.29) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:20:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joe Alexander X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 36912-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CF52B0E4D7B400-1948-2FA99@webmail-d018.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [173.215.5.155] Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:20:19 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346102419; bh=euoshTpa01QayebeuoNGpmxKdIP7ejf3IvTvbA8y20o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZEuFpXnuSZDmk3N5b5UyvgzslIAHIfINJSXFpmQYGwH5Q2rAyDBd23pPwup/FvLyT /i/nuspSqNGC00fXcND0LK5b+QPtPpPV50DIKXoHALXlWfWlNZWUyGqCbAZvK+EmS8 zTh6cHVaOPiTBUSW2zRRT0mxjEhPsfJJ1L4dn33I= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:490156448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7503be4937f28 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net what BOBSTA said we are sub-3.00 minutes at Road America and dont run an oil cooler. we did....but had to block off air to get oil temps up. we also run a dead stock radiator and always have. one less oil leak and one less failure opportunity. Joe A A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert M. Lang To: robert rudolphi Cc: triumphs ; 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler Hi, Whether you need an oil cooler is subject for debate. Going out on a limb here, a street driven motor would probably never see critical oil temps, hence the oil cooler is not needed. If, on the other hand, you have a race motor that sees high-rpm, heavy load operation, then the oil cooler would be called for. The one exception for a street-driven car would be if you tow or you plan to sit in traffic all the time. As a single data point, I have a 12:1 motor in an autocrosser and I do run an oil cooler. With no oil cooler, I would see oil temps in excess of 210 on a hot day. With the oil cooler I do see up to about 180 when it gets really hot and I have two drivers and there's an occasional spike to 200-ish. So the delta T with a 13-row cooler is 10 - 30 derees oil temp. I have a 13-row cooler and I have a thermostatic bypass valve. But to the point - with an oil cooler and the old-style oil (20w50), you're giving up horsepower due to parasitic drag from the oil. There are other side-issues that are related to the oil being too cool. I guess the point is, there's not much to be gained by the oil cooler except possibly the ooh-ahh factor. In any case, if you do run an oil cooler make sure that you have one of the thermostatically controlled bypass thingies because if you don't run one of those and you run your car when it's cold the oil will NEVER get to operating temps and you'll be bypassing the pressure relief valve all the time because the oil pressure will STAY at 100+ psi all the time. This is patently bad, IMHO. Also note that you are adding a maintenance item to your system... regarding maintenance of an oil cooler, with a thermostatic bypass, you need to test the thing to make sure it's actually working, so add that to your monthly to-do list. You also need to keep a sharp eye on the cooler and hoses for problems. The oil flows through the system at line pressure, so a tiny crack in the cooler itself can turn into a gusher at (usually) the worst time. There's also the issue of purging the oil cooler during oil changes so that you get a full, fresh charge of new oil during oil changes... which is one of the points of doing oil changes. But that's my two cents on the matter. Like I said, I have one on the race car. I don't have one on the street car. c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/n197tr4@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 16:01:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41342D02D1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:01:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0F52C0D2D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170130pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9F009A9OA5O5E0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.92.115 ([96.255.92.115]) by vznit170130 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:42:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:42:05 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <15642084.1452121.1346103725214.JavaMail.root@vznit170130> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [96.255.92.115] Subject: Re: [TR] Randall comes up with the answer again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The guy never ceases to amaze me, I have learned more about my car from this one member than anyone out there. Randall, to you from all of us, thank you for your insight and experience. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 On 08/27/12, Andrew Uprichard wrote: Randall: you are amazing. I bought a $6 in-line booster valve (Ford, I believe) and no more noise. Thanks again ! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:27 AM To: 'Andrew Uprichard'; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] Any one have this problem? > After rebuilding the TR250, I noticed a distinct "click" from around > my feet and in sync with engine revs. Turned out to be the servo > non-return valve. I don't have any experience, but my guess is that there is something odd going on with the intake manifold vacuum. That valve should only move when the inlet vacuum goes above or below the vacuum inside the servo, so I think the rhythmic click means the inlet vacuum is going up and down. You should be able to confirm that theory by connecting a vacuum test gauge. I'll further guess that you have a fair amount of "lope" at idle, caused by the aggressive cam profile (this is the engine with 170+ bhp, correct?), which might explain the vacuum variation. One solution might be to add an in-line check valve in the line leading to the servo. Without the direct connection to the servo and firewall, you probably won't be able to hear it operate. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 16:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D0B2C0D19 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:19:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69CA2C0CDE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=_sq2P1JhhCwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pKD1rnR_f6cA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=tfcyUYs4LV92uVTGy8oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:49799] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 12/0F-28917-08BEB305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:49:52 +0000 Message-ID: <20120827214952.1HJP0.46859.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:49:52 -0400 From: To: robert rudolphi In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > You also need to keep a sharp eye on the cooler > and hoses for problems. The oil flows through the system at line pressure, > so a tiny crack in the cooler itself can turn into a gusher at (usually) > the worst time. Ditto the lines to/from the cooler & thermostat. Lines can rupture suddenly if they are chafing or get pulled tight under hard acceleration/cornering. And a broken line can ruin your whole day, especially when the first symptom you notice is the clatter from the rod bearings ... I know that's what Bob meant to say, I just wanted to emphasize the point. Otherwise I agree entirely. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 16:50:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7597A2D01AA for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:50:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A662D020E for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=1DACA83PRYgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGkmtdjMyLoA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ByFcwRecv23HsnCaXuwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:50436] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id D0/42-29356-1D4FB305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:29:38 +0000 Message-ID: <20120827222938.6HX4Y.47081.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:29:37 -0400 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Angelo Graham In-Reply-To: <503BCC48.6060309@execulink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 brake light switch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I had early failure with the one I got from my FLAPS. Sorry I don't know the application. When I tried to buy a replacement (different FLAPS) they couldn't figure out what it was from either. The repro switch I got from TRF has been working well for a couple of years now. Also FWIW, I kind of suspect the FLAPS switch failed because it got contaminated with DOT 5. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 17:05:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B542D02BC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:05:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7166A2D01EC for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=jx3thE-27KMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=5uSvU5rzzEgA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=pHjKmyYMAhRy0PRUBbAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:50737] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 85/05-13948-BD8FB305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:46:51 +0000 Message-ID: <20120827224651.T960N.47214.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:46:51 -0400 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, thenicholls@verizon.net In-Reply-To: <15642084.1452121.1346103725214.JavaMail.root@vznit170130> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Randall comes up with the answer again X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Randall, to you from all of us, thank you for your insight and experience. Aw shucks, just tryin to help out. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 17:06:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5A82D02A9 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:06:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6572D02C3 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=ZHZ2Oq5a0nYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=7iY0X6cOjXMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FkLasJWHAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=ceWenhMIANsxHG37iaAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=McMFUWpDjCUA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:50888] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 25/7A-29356-FCAFB305; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:55:12 +0000 Message-ID: <20120827225512.GZOY2.47284.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:55:11 -0400 From: To: "9issa: justbrits.com" <9issa@justbrits.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] America's British Reliability Run X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net *Oct 19-21, Clinton, NJ. - America's British Reliability Run* America's British Reliability Run is a 650 mile weekend drive for charity through the states of NJ, NY, CT, VT and PA. Each two person team pays their own expenses and solicits donations to the partner charity, in this case the Shriner's Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia. Since 2002, the ABRR has raised over $150,000 for worthy childrens charities throughout the US. Open to British vehicles of any vintage. Learn more at www.BritishReliability.org . Contact: Bob DeLucia. Email: _yukon80@comcast.net_ . ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 18:06:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FC42D0275 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:06:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailgate9.sa.gov.au (mailgate9.sa.gov.au [203.6.147.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140D22D01D4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 17:50:51 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,838,1336314600"; d="scan'208";a="22781570" Received: from unknown (HELO EMSWM302.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au) ([10.154.32.68]) by mailgate9.sa.gov.au with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 28 Aug 2012 09:23:36 +0930 Received: from EMSGM101.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au (10.154.32.57) by EMSWM302.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au (10.154.32.68) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:23:34 +0930 Received: from EMSCM008.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au ([10.154.32.35]) by EMSGM101.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au ([10.154.32.57]) with mapi; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:23:34 +0930 From: "Biedermann, Frank (SACE Board)" To: "tr3driver@ca.rr.com" , robert rudolphi Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:23:34 +0930 Thread-Topic: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler Thread-Index: Ac2EooAfPyw3xlAVQcC5FA7TepYphAACv4Lg Message-ID: References: <20120827214952.1HJP0.46859.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> In-Reply-To: <20120827214952.1HJP0.46859.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Accept-Language: en-US, en-AU Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US, en-AU MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll pitch in with my 2c here, after previously having an oil cooler on my early '6. It's not on there any more - I believe mine either had a weakness in it somewhere or developed one in the course of use and catastrophically failed dumping all the oil from the engine in a very short period of time. Luckily, that happened about 100m from my parents' driveway (which is where I was going for lunch) and my folks had oil and the necessary tools and fittings to plug the oil cooler lines at the filter adapter, so no real damage done. In the period of time I had it installed it did improve the idle oil pressure, particularly in stop-go traffic in summer here when temperatures can exceed 40 degrees Celsius. But I don't think that's enough to convince me to ever install one again after the experience I had above... Frank Biedermann 69 TR6 PI Adelaide, Australia -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tr3driver@ca.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:20 AM To: robert rudolphi Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR6 Oil Cooler > You also need to keep a sharp eye on the cooler and hoses for > problems. The oil flows through the system at line pressure, so a tiny > crack in the cooler itself can turn into a gusher at (usually) the > worst time. Ditto the lines to/from the cooler & thermostat. Lines can rupture suddenly if they are chafing or get pulled tight under hard acceleration/cornering. And a broken line can ruin your whole day, especially when the first symptom you notice is the clatter from the rod bearings ... I know that's what Bob meant to say, I just wanted to emphasize the point. Otherwise I agree entirely. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frankb@saceboard.sa.gov.au ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 19:14:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B07B2D0210 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:14:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from defout.telus.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EAB2D02C4 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edtncm04 ([199.185.220.240]) by priv-edtnes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20120824042909.EOXO13548.priv-edtnes24.telusplanet.net@edtncm04> for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:29:09 -0600 Received: from JohnPC ([172.218.193.47]) by edtncm04 with bizsmtp id qUUy1j02e11pQt001UV62N; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:29:08 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=VhhL47Zz63ABvl8ZPvrq5PmU/Ht0EF7YLQxod1Lgh6c= c=1 sm=2 a=HhyzEAvbp6sA:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=E6gxu3ucJEwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3jro7iQlUHMv66fxQV4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=-sAP7gFFBiLa61nS2YsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 172.218.193.47 Message-ID: <8F613F2F5711456491478FF08428BA05@JohnPC> From: "John Finlayson" To: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:28:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:14:18 -0600 Subject: [TR] Fw: Transmission Temporary Locks In Neutral X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On June 28, I posted the following message to the list. I received several suggestions as to what the cause of the problem might be: - shift interlock in the top cover - clutch hydraulics - shift lever adjustment - clutch not releasing from the flywheel. I think I have now ruled out most, if not all, of the above suggestions and am appealing for any additional suggestions anyone might have. I felt strongly that the shift interlock was the problem. I even ordered some parts for it before taking it apart. When the parts didn't arrive, I removed the top cover from the previous transmission I had in the TR4 and replaced the top cover that I thought might be faulty on the current malfunctioning transmission with the TR4 transmission top cover. After an hour of driving, the problem came back. This seemed to rule out the shift interlock as the problem as I had experienced no problems with the previous TR4 transmission in several years of driving with it. I checked the clutch hydraulics. They appeared to be within spec and the slave maintained its position with the clutch pedal depressed. I had used the TR4 shift lever on both the TR4 and TR6 top covers. I removed the TR4 top cover and reinstalled the TR6 top cover. I installed the TR6 shift lever and adjusted it as described it the TR6 Shop Manual. Incidentally, the TR6 Shop Manual says to screw the locating pin in till it touches the lever then back it off a half turn. The Haynes manual says, after touching "screw the locating pin a further half turn.....". On two recent occasions the temporary transmission jams occurred while the car was stopped. While in neutral and stopped at a red light I couldn't shift out of neutral into a forward gear. I finally had an opportunity to try reverse. It went easily and cleanly into reverse. I shifted out of reverse but still couldn't get it into a forward gear. I continued trying and finally got it into first when the light changed. This was the first time I had tried to shift into reverse when the forward gears were jammed. I was surprised at how easily it went into reverse. The second occurrence was a repeat of the first. There was no grinding of gears at any time during these incidents or any of the previous incidents. So I now know that these temporary jams are confined to the forward gears only. I don`t see how it could be the clutch if I can get into reverse while not being able to get into a forward gear but I don`t know enough to rule it out. I`m thinking it`s something in the transmission related to the forward gears that occasionally jams. Given that this is an intermittent problem, I`m not sure I`ll even recognize it when I see it. When I had the covers off the two transmissions, the TR6 transmission was tighter and with less end float that the previous TR4 transmission. Any insights into what the problem might be would be greatly appreciated. John Finlayson ----- Original Message ----- From: John Finlayson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:19 PM Subject: Transmission Temporary Locks In Neutral I have a '62 TR4 in which I have installed a TR6 transmission with A type overdrive. Very intermittently after shifting out of a gear I will find that I can't get out of neutral into the gear I am intending to shift into, or to any forward gear including the one I just came out of. This can occur when the car is stopped or in motion. I can be at a traffic light waiting in neutral for the light to change. When the light changes I find I can't engage any forward gear. After trying repeatedly to select a gear and engaging and disengaging the clutch I have so far eventually been able to get the transmission "unlocked" and shifted into a gear. The same applies when the car is in motion and when I am either up or down shifting. I don't recall overdrive ever being engaged when this occurs although it's possible it may have been on some occasions. There is no grinding of gears when this occurs. The shifter doesn't get even close to selecting a gear. When I try to select a gear, I can freely move the shifter laterally in neutral but not up or down to select any forward gear.The shift lever feels like it is physically blocked from moving up or down....I have not yet tried to select reverse when this occurs, just haven't thought to try reverse. These are infrequent events and have occurred since since the transmission was installed a year or so ago. Their frequency and the effort required to get a gear has increased recently, however. It happened three times on a ~30 mile drive I took last week....twice while stopped at lights and once while gearing down from 4th to 3rd while on the highway. I wasn't successful in getting it into gear till after I had stopped. Any suggestions on what the problem is would be greatly appreciated. John Finlayson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 27 19:28:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48ED2D0221 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:28:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1846B2C0CC4 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9F00C4RYRPX750@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:28:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "TR List " Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:28:36 -0400 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2EuLsMfxSwHinIQD+U/cjGhyvfeg== Expiry-date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:00:00 -0400 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Electric Fan wiring - TR3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As I am finishing up the wiring on my project, I thought I might build in the wiring for an electric fan now rather than later (after all this is Florida). Car is still positive ground. I have an open connection on a brown wire fuse box (located next to the factory fuse box) fed from A1 of control box. Fuse for Overdrive and an accessory panel (both on relays). I am looking at a manual switch only. My thoughts: Brown/white from fuse box to C1/30 on relay. C2/87 to Fan also indicator lamp (probably brown/white as well) ?? from ?? to Switch to W1/85 (when key on) - what color? And where connected? W2/86 to ground. Fan & Indicator lamp grounded. As an alternative, I may use a switch with an indicator lamp in the knob if I can find a spring for it. Location TBD. Relays are my nemesis. am I correct? Thanks Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 06:11:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A8E2D01AE for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:11:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 544562D0168 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:07:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2012 12:10:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.13] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2012 12:10:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2012 12:10:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780479.51532.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34966 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Aug 2012 12:10:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346155806; bh=7MEoFYb6/iWWgYbSKizfWw0s1Wa5jCHtsWKAv2fRKjI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GBJ1UQlT6/fuJdE0PZkEf/nXK8yxyZJe1rsBLR0xZ+IDm9+ey+hAEOWPpBeolUMUTy3W1j348lzEvPaGe7hu/cgaDGhkw3u5hDovbYh6Hr3dL8l1HGaDVMJYYBu+Ul3yjt0MYD8Il++l6s4QRCoi01VYmkQedC+SzL71JYQbxUA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y7rd/yp+3dVyw49lspmXHeY23RinmAdeP/mluNHlh6IcVczHZjZXqfZh4wNPC+bWxCn2qitWz8uS597ic2lj7WLedZxdey8vbPZxMJ2hnwvUfZR8c771m9CyXFH7IPKieXi2jlNYLWW8JaqMx+KW/NZLqBG00r01GDOj0RP2aMY=; X-YMail-OSG: IesHQqAVM1lfdbkdkfrNkOxdRqAPUJmlB4iKxjhuG2M7cA1 Q5BMWiaPTmX4MWSDqxBD5Pe3vVjDggDfEUN_EC7sIvAZso7r2c6zLrVmHdQm ahi5UYCFeKzN_gPPphXlcho4z7wh_ni72iB2_gZU5v0jdx_D1qA1xTrXd_OM piwOtdHKHtj4lBfmO1pjlQa0H.xac_JBpKLc2SvG4TbSJqxz0QEk1l4Fl_G_ p6ryO_zyHCNsKEHcOGg7vl6jKpclTmlYBiiZZo5W0tOJ1qlir0CCiLLk49_R vL3s0moCHbwSYELcE0YRXgQtLvQbFfRgSQCKDA.p..hY6gYN.TrU0e62pfpd N5G6W8mDwVSDCmQVLkavbMang8FxGUl32dHOZxR7xhVq0jfnY0s0_1Qv0cnT e0UuxM34VsnlfaP2HL.84xvqb0vdFIkIqBus7AVotK4r_X9mXvM8DMlzJOj3 Kw7X5SQ4ATMcICtH7oCEP3smh2jlIqHc4OZ.xoQArNA-- Received: from [96.240.87.54] by web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 05:10:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346155806.7121.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 05:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 For Sale X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! A person new that I was into TRIUMPH's & asked if I would spread the word about him wanting to sell his TR6. Feel free to contact him (Brian Same ) NOT ME! //////////// Cosmo, Below is the ad for my TR6, modify if you want. 1972 Triumph TR6 Tan convertible / green, with tan leather interior; body off-frame restored, no rust, mechanicals are new or rebuilt. Has AC, oil cooler, competition suspension for lower smoother ride. Engine was rebulit by Roadster Factory. Two sets of wheels: chrome wire with black walls and stock power coated steel with red lines. Both sets of tires brand new. Car is former AWARD Winner in Class. Recent NYS inspected. Many extras including Tonneau cover, extra parts, original radio must see. Milage: 52,900. Please no trades, reasonable offers considered, call for details @716-289-2381or e-mail; jbs0073@aol.com Thanks, Brian Same ////////// -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 08:00:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C585E2D02BC for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:00:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48342D019F for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qady1 with SMTP id y1so3028378qad.14 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=6bxwL4o0Bx3Eeg/Yd8Asg4hjR8JzG07pDe1i8hOlIfk=; b=us2o7OTeUxsRgHJ/lsUAX2iw7Eevcr+vUjoZ4qB1mv9GOWrJYDDxoRvgfr2Ky9U+JS 811RsZXLX7XBDIj+oXHeA8YvO/cMIpQAjeWJ7KXiGxcSRTAetdbY5puw3eVRAfg3w3PQ Bp7bCnFXf3HzumCVyjv0a6z4dSEk6Vy8PqjQufnODJYOlxdXP7RhyHKr1FDNObDGPBll Kc6zH37EwYJszTNNG95y8Jz6ruXZ7BTCm4Qr9eZVtdCVTeC7EpYopzbp2m5S4mIrlbK9 y6Lnj+BOBTVWxnz+F5bSPOyhbJV535qs4qUje+Lp2bhjjd7K1mvn2gR2Zjt9OsaYbf7+ g7JQ== Received: by 10.229.137.85 with SMTP id v21mr8588163qct.17.1346162033023; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.3.145.111] (67-208-5-162.ip.tor.radiant.net. [67.208.5.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ea5sm15599060qab.2.2012.08.28.06.53.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Message-Id: <2B0B0959-0F59-4CDF-8AA2-133394891D08@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:53:50 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: [TR] My TR6 has a cooler X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In addition to the thermostat there are two types of oil hoses available. The more reasonable in cost is just rubber. The better oil hose is metal (wire mess sorta) covered. This is the better choice of the two - it will easily withstand line pressures. Doug Fraser '69 TR6 Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 19:10:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3060D2D0197 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:10:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A1F832C0CA3 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:13:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.5] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:13:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:13:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 820106.13521.bm@omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44339 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2012 01:13:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1346202811; bh=sHBYarDpqLpl4ndJPgYvhGri0CO+1P3/IhNqYOVS8+k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K/w4TmeqZm3zaWeesMiGUQPar6goYyI3rkvx4fJz03cy2fIh+/l7V1olJHdr/lie/xUOqhziWIiof2dozYEuB8NaZMeIlS0l9NHT3lRxt8ZoLL6lHPF6nGss9XDP379GF5JErxRmhbsJfckRUye+oRYScD8JTHX72UjmY5I2fbQ= s=s1024; d=ymail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XjV5tTruz+9mUqsuMyuLWqW8LZuOivGgr314M8ez93CJoiFyMmrXjPHIGTykPYyhz+adp3TNVEA6ip5s8D4tfnvvb5oyvUn3LIo03ggK5Mvw2u5EIjLimOt1Vbn9lprbbKjgDiVHBcFSpeKyiijFFNtgV90gdMkabsYtvVXa7CY=; X-YMail-OSG: g2AlYZYVM1mvFQt5WO1l4KUJ63adyyVmZeM6983sI5A64QV N..yJOnN.AbOrG_Xx8GGvTMmbmxatd.3aGpVedruqcR5GRf62rnbeAlDusCr .o4UY_ZF.iZMGGDo0lBI3p4E1wbA98CfzpyllbqD5AZ2yLNcP6qdMlZoQODm 9S7MN2tU0kOfvIpEeYCAVYV9AIG.D3DbKD_2w6PtT7Br9.xt_znojo2WDHwv lEwh1LTxc7_hROGdorQmkNMwO8M_U1LYvcvr.e_ixQBR6p5QM_D4umdNyrPj bCQPFzx3WhN2oZq0hJ_dTc19HJD_7kUCjWtoWdaACos1mkvul3DKrh09s_tj qwCS3NWCPPJgXywj9ZQlLv1.k5eH.WAatFqo42ajjf.8hIKFCSanEJOdJm1m YKkLUK.ce2R7FmZ3FCXub9vLwvOJrL9o8WQ8G16PVBxekHLUcVqEvC9cKau_ U Received: from [24.10.41.74] by web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:13:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:13:31 -0700 (PDT) From: P Caffrey To: list Triumph MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: P Caffrey List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List, Any opinions on the reliability of original wire wheels that have never received maintenance (e.g., tuned, spokes replaced)? What are the chances of a wire wheel collapsing? The wheels on my car are original with all spokes accounted for and no visible rust. The only thing I've done to maintain them is powder-coating and wheel balance when tires are replaced. Today, I had a nice drive on the Sacramento River road. A lot of winding road for miles with beautiful scenery of vineyards, small towns, boating, etc. However, the makeshift roadside altars marking auto fatalities (several on the Sacramento levee) reminds one of the inherent dangers associated with our cars. Thanks for any opinions... Pat TR4A '67 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 19:39:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41D92D031E for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:39:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B3E2D019E for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:42:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.168] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:42:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 01:42:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 345816.53656.bm@omp1051.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11303 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2012 01:42:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346204527; bh=XgoXKpodm6Me5eHUhItfYROXaafattfDeckrDRjQUyY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LZ9sIjx4pD4Jo0J118cPAcY5JFfEPGkLvG0gGaugZueIfA2oTy1fhAZURzgVQQ9VuoZmGWAL4uAgEnUothL4CZYelo5ls69sd3iONFmveXBSGe+v8anxVuhZq9AzVuf1RHbccSIiNOEg3hC2pfC0xXTEuvh4d/GPwCk8xTSONtQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s+9OaL9JWtnAfSKVtvPE7fi83C/xIcUwXIfFRFNpfNH4bZHJIKk+ZTKFB0rSLHIO3KIHwhS/UpPnGUoZ8b85oA/7bj5MlC1MVBFkbG+47e55iAPUeHMX3jFVnUWPyTweXo9tYcuMI/FPfNB7dL83UXyvIKnYOkIg2+Q64Xbva0U=; X-YMail-OSG: fgO4c7EVM1mtAovf3nzqkQOXjsNwWiGpur3pHlXTxu0hAom iULwW_IxEIvMXqNetzD1iVCC9exSKkYwW.vcxF0VnSnpfxlEwE9VMWx.AeYE RAAYKVDCXYIGv4jTWrwY0N5.sJBm1aUY9PWeEt15dKUX5Eo1jgfpF9LXVqLQ N1EZqeumAn1rcYVGiY_0pSU.H6wVPUrmcoF4gy9OncsQw1yq.yfHUY_N_87c HXLnS..g9pIDZhnbt3u11B.4Jd7Eu04mbzI1SOOuQjHIKX62wLTdg3PcCMt_ fhmyecnk2gascZjyW0ImMRywPx9gPG6wgampVywAgNn3wvzlp1eiqILlKtSc MfpKyodEL9rz4P2fYMKNPGwYiSHs.wVV1JbKyPQ18pgQAMichcmFDuhqoZL3 Yc.qHR.bmujxPvVK.wfUm1qPqF5W4XHpygSO4BXgaSTzo4gU3tyTJsA92PA- - Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:42:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Installed a new master cylinder (tr-6) along with speedy bleeders on all corners. Attempted to bleed starting from right rear wheel and got nowhere. I ended up taking out the speedy bleeder and tried blowing/sucking by mouth. It didn't seem to make any difference as I could suck and blow through the bleeder without any change. I'm thinking the bleeder should block during a suck or blow if its working right. Has anyone else had an issue with speedy bleeders? Or is simple mouth pressure not enough to make it work? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 20:31:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34532D0322 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:31:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6202D02EF for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.38.3.adsl.snet.net [69.0.38.3]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LuwOn-1ToIvP1JZZ-0104X1; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:34:26 -0400 Message-ID: <2D6F0B30B3044840A2C3BD9B475F3274@BobDell> From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Gary Nafziger" , References: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:34:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:a5flDMcnqrmLM7RhjMPWx8Ki6TN58/sJRd1eq/484Je Fwt7eAl0rPV/MnWPkiaLNtPFW9fJWJ6ltneeGd//9oCnGCkVGy 21R+dzpDeXnVEseHN1Nmj57SZ1zfh0yY5y/KnBhLJJ0gZ/B7Wg d8UQoIyoawqAuPno0UMwjfLKhJAi3ydFETvYYfpPEkvdySMTZ/ FFXeErRRoqUI/B7BuY3AJG+dg8cbNIE9GAB18XWtfWMJ1Tiswa sCxnasQpIxDU8gvXt8XxUzQcwvaiAo7CAaULqdiT7HRBQ1GGf0 PeaKILruhEUrdF4ghvuIE6qVP2dhM1fhTWHa2m9ob5DvQPbEXh xdBQq8lVvObCx1/F8GfVRNPZEeUiXjQlLBPMWublG Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've had them on my 6 for years and all you have to do is loosen them a turn and the fluif flows free. What they don't do is allow air back into the line from the bleeder point. So you loosen them, bleed and tighten. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Gary Nafziger Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:42 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] speedy bleed Installed a new master cylinder (tr-6) along with speedy bleeders on all corners. Attempted to bleed starting from right rear wheel and got nowhere. I ended up taking out the speedy bleeder and tried blowing/sucking by mouth. It didn't seem to make any difference as I could suck and blow through the bleeder without any change. I'm thinking the bleeder should block during a suck or blow if its working right. Has anyone else had an issue with speedy bleeders? Or is simple mouth pressure not enough to make it work? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 21:13:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B942D031E for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:13:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255D82D0192 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so56050wey.14 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8NjG4dXTT1eo1yZL4adqVmN0HlkAS6r7UYVG2j5Es6c=; b=r4CrDdpPZsBXx4dlN8pn2NJLWghSHojuD0hibfxusfmSXBDOMYXlACQwszUjksd7pY c/kM70S8Hiuv/OBouZbz8R5nQk2Q7X9AdH35laeMBYkEkLIUZIS0gfHY1O5MScYb5mu6 fsMIK3h0zaBtJGgP5rNudm8Cb1phuU0r4IS0dKglqOKJYoEcRndQuunHOx94m1GIuevi NnchJ89J4oqGFdY8+yapoFrRJoX88Wm/yTBPfG006idyr9NYanzCg6xdaZGI1zpLwnEQ 6VvIy0hb1mnJYiCAN9kTK/iIVGWlHsW8AUJjQ1e7s6dFLnj5D9nkb5FxqZw/i2/NGX3h qADg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.100.37 with SMTP id ev5mr419212wib.5.1346209836474; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:10:36 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: Gary Nafziger , list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gives me a chuckle. Don't tell anyone but a few months ago, in desperation, i endeded up putting my mouth over the clutch res cap and blowing until fluif came out. After that, it was all pump 3 times, bleed, and repeat. I'm glad Bob did not have a camera while i blew thru the cap! On Aug 28, 2012 9:43 PM, "Gary Nafziger" wrote: > Installed a new master cylinder (tr-6) along with speedy bleeders on all > corners. Attempted to bleed starting from right rear wheel and got > nowhere. > I > ended up taking out the speedy bleeder and tried blowing/sucking by mouth. > It > didn't seem to make any difference as I could suck and blow through the > bleeder without any change. I'm thinking the bleeder should block during a > suck or blow if its working right. Has anyone else had an issue with > speedy > bleeders? Or is simple mouth pressure not enough to make it work? > > thanks > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 21:17:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3992D02FF for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:17:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6380F2D02C5 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:17:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VPlfbqzX c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1ByIQj6AGP0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Inc67O6H0KJEihhRMiIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:49228] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 77/17-01394-B5A8D305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:19:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>, "Gary Nafziger" , References: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2D6F0B30B3044840A2C3BD9B475F3274@BobDell> In-Reply-To: <2D6F0B30B3044840A2C3BD9B475F3274@BobDell> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:19:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I had a fresh master cylinder on an MGB I tried to use the EZ bleeders, with a lot of air in the system to start I think I had some trouble getting the bleeder valve to open, once it is mostly fluid worked great, I think I switched back to the old bleeders to get started. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 21:17:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1842D0308 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:17:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E52D02E5 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:17:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=YO6WSFnkwGMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3wuPFYXsLa-VJ9YcvUIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A2/40-29356-97A8D305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:20:26 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'P Caffrey'" , "'list Triumph'" References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:20:40 -0700 Message-ID: <02fe01cd8595$4498ac50$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2Fg5bApSXLEV9NRgeVtJZ2bUsaFwADMJyw In-Reply-To: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I once read a comment from Kas Kastner that he liked wire wheels because they fail gradually. Steel wheels are more of an "all or nothing" proposition. At the very least though, I'd either tune them myself or get someone to do it. Loose spokes are almost a guarantee of broken spokes if you drive them that way very long. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 21:28:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D072C0D18 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:28:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810462C0CE2 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:22:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Vb91zSV9 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=YO6WSFnkwGMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=wan4st7rZHNQ7qt0MPgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:49229] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DD/70-17584-0AB8D305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:25:21 +0000 Message-ID: <32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "P Caffrey" , "list Triumph" References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:25:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In my experience (and I drove on some pretty bad ones over the years) they tend to break a spoke or two, or once a little loose the lack of tension leads to further and faster deterioration, but I don't think they are very prone to catastrophic failure, maybe others have different stories to tell, but there is probably more chance of your front lower suspension mounts breaking if you are looking for something to worry about :) Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 22:05:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5648D2D030C for ; 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28 Aug 2012 21:08:11 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Greg Lemon'" , "'P Caffrey'" , "'list Triumph'" References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> Thread-Index: Ac2FluD+7/T9l79jT92kddAe7nghtQAA50og Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The only catastrophic failure I had was spinning my 3 across a median curb, bent one and busted a lot of spokes on the other so it drove sort of egg-shaped, but it got me the next 5 miles to the house. I'm with Greg, I don't think you have anything to worry about it all looks tight and clean as you say. You will have plenty of warning from a spoke here or there when things are starting to so south. Enjoy your ride, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:25 PM To: P Caffrey; list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety In my experience (and I drove on some pretty bad ones over the years) they tend to break a spoke or two, or once a little loose the lack of tension leads to further and faster deterioration, but I don't think they are very prone to catastrophic failure, maybe others have different stories to tell, but there is probably more chance of your front lower suspension mounts breaking if you are looking for something to worry about :) Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 22:21:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB24D2D01D8 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:21:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A85B2C0D13 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:21:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VPlfbqzX c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=YO6WSFnkwGMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=gvxb5jZbScFjQBJAJNwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50150] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C9/EF-01394-8799D305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:24:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Wbeech" , "'P Caffrey'" , "'list Triumph'" References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> In-Reply-To: <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:24:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Similar story, I whacked a curb pretty good when the crappy tires on my old TR4a hydroplaned (or maybe it was a crappy driver). Bent the heck out of the wheel, but it didn't fail completely, limped home. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 22:46:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FCC2D02FF for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:46:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.124]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A24C2C0D1B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:40:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 04:43:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 04:43:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 04:43:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 440178.27192.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 70929 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2012 04:43:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1346215393; bh=ENvRw7JwZANOzJHDzjJS1o9nW6Ulbb0BWoDqX0UN8rg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k9yvrLWGYuy/8s59HDBLjtU+6cgzpsHtQwuum8cvdlspQBtj2J5yrypGt4qoO0GwKwSYKZ/rGMzdTk7AOoVKTLoQ2yH0sLVxSa7wHTErG6gi3kQXdCaG5+0MXUBV0DcvIv5NHBXj0sg3jX3G3pcKC7+FTr4N3zQtz8+ehg9VFsA= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jd8eEnjmVjqloQYi2nS01L11wKW3qeDMqxwbQJVsg0Ga+qzi1yC0S8kmhJb1303saMr96WEvQmRVfbmbOBjKc7eNtXmDGeA44PUTEoJjSeVUV819dkMgzrVdRB/Cm8758jiQ8VL4lwWjukn3RyUg3RSy4RUqqi3U6Ne5hDD/oyo=; X-YMail-OSG: 3qOzEHQVM1nCbotd1VNf9rvzXLBLQ6LvRYIDDOCobQ2XWK0 z6jH0ifj7MYJOw0yX10nHAfFZqEwfyH9XL5gnbK9JK.RPX1ohroyIeQlZ0FX mglfRGMDhjpXT_gTOWgZfpEFo64uGRFBPWlwT2rw.7nxy6nYRh6RsHDiBWpN .AlCp2L1DvSR5s3i2vKWlgnzsKfN9WKnMoYCPaMZ6ZYWYGw6hiswLO2dyvXq D45ObmYkz4TSk6zDG1as5skSoutMsnK_mKsUdc5JklPwle3VV1m97QzKE4_N Xyb3G6NNkGc3fIM.XLNOKyfyC8Bdo2iIU5h7GZ2SkXN6ceqkt4BNjzvwWi71 YxMffx9Feq8AD4NkLXwj5vdajYaJAN8jsYKYSfACl7aGzBwyd.2KuqRVt058 Rzqj4XFmoywDbI512ipU8LNRsYm6KT3Yn7FnS6L86_TEIoA57m3ZGWKCvPbC eHSQ- Received: from [107.198.190.38] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:43:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346215393.67058.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 Temp Gauge Acting Up X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3 temperature gauge doesn't come up to the usual temperature in our cool mornings. I have a 185 thermostat, the bypass blanked off (with a 1/8 hole drilled in the pipe plug) and an electric cooling fan set to come on at 185 degrees. In the mornings my temp gauge reads like 100 degrees (on a mid-50's morning). On my way home from work the outside temp is over 100 and the temperature gauge reads like 135. I drive like hell too, it should be at 185 where it always has read. So I thought that it must be that the thermostat was stuck open. I took out my infrared thermometer and measured the water pump housing (about 195) and the thermostat housing (185) and the water in the radiator and radiator itself (about 185), so the thermostat is working apparently and the gauge was reading 135. I had the gauge and sender rebuilt by West Valley Instrument about 10 years ago. Is the sending bulb in the thermostat housing giving it up? I am afraid to try to take the bulb sender unit out because if it isn't broke then it will be. What gives? Is there something I should do before pulling the gauge and sending it out to WVI? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 22:47:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205F62D031B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:47:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C502D02EF for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:46:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=YO6WSFnkwGMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=E0HT6JMAU03IqKFyIzoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E4/7C-29356-E5F9D305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:49:35 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'list Triumph'" References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:49:49 -0700 Message-ID: <030801cd85a1$b8f84680$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2FluD+7/T9l79jT92kddAe7nghtQAA50ogAACy3RA= In-Reply-To: <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > You will have plenty of warning > from a spoke > here or there when things are starting to so south. Keep an eye on the splines, though. I had just backed out of the driveway when mine failed, so no real drama; but it could have been a lot worse on the freeway. And make sure the special nuts that hold the adapters are tight. They are supposed to be torqued to 65 ftlb, which tighter than usual for steel wheels. I didn't even know I had a problem until the car went sideways on an off-ramp. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 23:23:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72D2D02EA for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:23:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE992D0186 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:23:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=5pZmpVVBelYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8Riic99GWw4A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=l7oTBx1N2G2WDxTQ18oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 06/E3-29356-CF7AD305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:26:20 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1346215393.67058.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:26:34 -0700 Message-ID: <030f01cd85a6$db705590$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2FobNrdAZfsKcbT+GfEC+uzu3eagAAquqg In-Reply-To: <1346215393.67058.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Temp Gauge Acting Up X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Stock type gauge? If so, it has probably leaked out all its ether. Time to ship it off to WVI again. Worth asking, they might even warranty it, or at least give you a break on a refill. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 28 23:39:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C492D031B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:39:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96A92C0CB6 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:39:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=bCTuWdxEyWUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OiMnxUltevEA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=z6Knu3XQ6KQqRaVqa3cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 75/2D-29356-8ABAD305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:42:00 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'TR List '" References: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:42:15 -0700 Message-ID: <031301cd85a9$0bc99560$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2EuLsMfxSwHinIQD+U/cjGhyvfegA6WbEA In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan wiring - TR3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I am looking at a manual switch only. You might want to reconsider that, Carl. I used a manual switch for many years, and I was forever forgetting to turn it off, or worse, turn it on. Feels really stupid to be sitting at long traffic light and realize that the smoke drifting through the intersection is actually steam from your radiator. Being too stubborn (& cheap) to buy any of the many automatic switches on the market, I finally made my own little trigger circuit from scrap electronic components and an old gauge sender. Another of those "Why didn't I do that sooner?" moments! > C2/87 to Fan also indicator lamp (probably brown/white as well) > > ?? from ?? to Switch to W1/85 (when key on) - what color? And where > connected? Start from the 'green' circuit (ie fused, controlled by ignition switch). Or if you prefer, add another fuse fed from the white circuit. Color is kind of up to you, maybe green to the switch and then green/slate or what-have-you to the relay. I'm not slavish about having all the wire colors unique (which is good, because all the wires in my original wiring harness have faded to tan & black). > Relays are my nemesis. am I correct? Yup, should work. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 04:59:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B6F2D02BC for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:59:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.clking.com (72-0-139-103.tvc-ip.com [72.0.139.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DD02D0265 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:57:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from clking01exc02.clkingw2k.local ([192.168.0.238]) by clking01exc02 ([192.168.0.238]) with mapi; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:59:55 -0400 From: "Mitch R. Meisler" To: 'Randall' , 'list Triumph' Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:59:54 -0400 Thread-Topic: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety Thread-Index: Ac2FluD+7/T9l79jT92kddAe7nghtQAA50ogAACy3RAADfu0YA== Message-ID: <2B424E25DFFFC6489929D364DFBAE0990F1D5F0718@clking01exc02> References: <1346202811.43035.YahooMailNeo@web120902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><32A42C73C6574C52852DAEDACFF7464E@GregPC> <144DCD7991374E11B972A3661BD0F66A@bboffice> <030801cd85a1$b8f84680$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <030801cd85a1$b8f84680$0601a8c0@randall> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Related question. 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Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:50 AM To: 'list Triumph' Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety > You will have plenty of warning > from a spoke > here or there when things are starting to so south. Keep an eye on the splines, though. I had just backed out of the driveway when mine failed, so no real drama; but it could have been a lot worse on the freeway. And make sure the special nuts that hold the adapters are tight. They are supposed to be torqued to 65 ftlb, which tighter than usual for steel wheels. I didn't even know I had a problem until the car went sideways on an off-ramp. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mrm@clking.com ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 06:49:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8C12D02C4 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:49:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599BC2D026E for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:48:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OtDNOlDt c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1ByIQj6AGP0A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=IJOJx9mFb827Il_lrOIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:56734] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B3/6A-29356-8301E305; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:51:04 +0000 Message-ID: <503E1052.2060905@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:51:30 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Nafziger References: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, I also used speed bleeders on my 72. I had the same problems as you when trying to bleed from the rear. First, I loosened the fittings exiting the MC until I could see fluid flowing. Then I started on the right front and was able to get both front calipers to bleed correctly. I then turned to the rears and I still couldn't get any fluid by pumping the MC. So I removed the line from the slave on the drivers side and just let it sit there with a cup underneath to catch any fluid. Well, about an hour later, fluid started to drip so I re-attached the line and was able to bleed both rears just fine using the speed bleeders. I am guessing, since all my lines were empty, that I had so much air in the lines that I just had to let gravity do its job. Some 6 owners have said it may be the pressure switch not letting fluid to the rears so make sure your switch is set correctly before and after bleeding. Others have said that the MC must be bench primed. I have never done that on any of my Triumphs. Bob On 08/28/2012 09:42 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Installed a new master cylinder (tr-6) along with speedy bleeders on all > corners. Attempted to bleed starting from right rear wheel and got nowhere. > I > ended up taking out the speedy bleeder and tried blowing/sucking by mouth. It > didn't seem to make any difference as I could suck and blow through the > bleeder without any change. I'm thinking the bleeder should block during a > suck or blow if its working right. Has anyone else had an issue with speedy > bleeders? Or is simple mouth pressure not enough to make it work? > > thanks > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 07:05:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3842D02EE for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:05:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE222D016B for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (69.0.38.3.adsl.snet.net [69.0.38.3]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LhfIn-1TT8de096P-00mplB; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:08:08 -0400 Message-ID: <2840B7BA73D5418C9782FA59AA5F4776@BobDell> From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Bob Labuz" , "Gary Nafziger" References: <1346204527.10693.YahooMailNeo@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <503E1052.2060905@adelphia.net> In-Reply-To: <503E1052.2060905@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:08:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:LY01uPWZ1vQJypmzkWEoh5i00n+pacij+SZ9cXPSkGh /EZsPvWPvpTVzXapfVsNMLhEWzjhF0Vigoec9xPYd8v1Fw5i4m CbutX7vVYjAD9OunK+tjVJtM4WhVOsbFnQ7uRRm++j+LvVSfLX l29lIbg4FuILxQSq3VE2mTdecncM4NFHK0TaEs00DscJ9Og+6S Nhu6EQkXUqgN7Y+sWSWisuCRN9JPMD6qibis9fiYz5DK0iT6B1 NduRz/5zP8NwGdQHmmXub7OSwbQ/EY/lxguyUbrcKj4X02lb+1 1QJjYhGZkP0oEhivq0B1TNOxib0V/5h06muWptzYmwj6XH2How MOiFPCsK06Som4EVfmhqj023C1kKXl0ZViwfaPeZc Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a simple tool you can make to ease the pain of bleeding...... http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/BrakeBleedTool.htm Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Bob Labuz Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:51 AM To: Gary Nafziger Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] speedy bleed Gary, I also used speed bleeders on my 72. I had the same problems as you when trying to bleed from the rear. First, I loosened the fittings exiting the MC until I could see fluid flowing. Then I started on the right front and was able to get both front calipers to bleed correctly. I then turned to the rears and I still couldn't get any fluid by pumping the MC. So I removed the line from the slave on the drivers side and just let it sit there with a cup underneath to catch any fluid. Well, about an hour later, fluid started to drip so I re-attached the line and was able to bleed both rears just fine using the speed bleeders. I am guessing, since all my lines were empty, that I had so much air in the lines that I just had to let gravity do its job. Some 6 owners have said it may be the pressure switch not letting fluid to the rears so make sure your switch is set correctly before and after bleeding. Others have said that the MC must be bench primed. I have never done that on any of my Triumphs. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 08:28:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1162D02EA for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:28:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346332D0205 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:28:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AEE0F38000161; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mae002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mae002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.28.133]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 85930E00008E; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:31:02 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Darrell Floyd X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36912-STANDARD Received: from 66.219.147.2 by webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.87) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:31:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF540A0CBF9558-1D00-42D79@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [66.219.147.2] Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:31:02 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346250662; bh=7v6fM/2YZwIBL3tiNT+2BjwzU7epsPyGXV4TLP5LBSQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ePb9+HiipX/RWHZdAKIioH4sld+vAmcOp5VCIfcr0cbDt2AAfYnv4apmnhh1cC4Du cakb5MR6oacMy8ddujuqbWQhGMW0G0hD42hd5r1y5kApZW+9LGJCibPX9xtgM/n0kI oAYJ+wgs+U7Er2nkyluXSxNGKP9ouJwSg6RbpUjA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:351465568:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c503e27a641e4 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List, Shaking down the 68 TR250 for the trip to the 2012 6-PACK Trials. I have been chasing a knock in the rear since last year's VTR NATC in Breckinridge. It is a singular knock coming out of the driver's side rear immediately after the brakes are applied. It sounds like it is coming from the brakes but that's difficult to detrimine exactly. I and others have been all over the entire rear suspension and all that we found was loose nuts on both side axle flanges. All of the suspension was entirely rebuilt with urethane bushings, new brakes, shocks and u-joints last year. The loose nuts were tightened but the knock is still present. It is fairly annoying. So I am really stumped with this one. Should I just turn the radio up louder or is this the knock that a 250 makes right before the wheel falls off? Cheers, Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 08:53:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9804D2D02BC for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:53:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E55302C0CB0 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.78] by nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 14:51:56 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm12.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 14:51:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 14:51:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 286495.74592.bm@omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 71410 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2012 14:51:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=DGIJ8rNa1ojhF1MXytRhaUg1pn9P0z3jwhRudXLRrGqWQeMqWfyhF9+ofwhshsMmpxnITQ9sy3b7j5IQgA29toSBN4l7XyKYukKLigK+9dDRL+Mu4sK6wOHA6lKX44nF+flb6omiwOZbqnfQT47rxN/4A1x/0kyykCzscepDsoc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346251916; bh=0XPw4v3lDiyzkG22sVO2zFuhygiyZ60e0jtLqx+I9Xo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=zFlFIEOfeCGgvAgW1B4wGS30zeK2wa9ZMOTxmsGMjyl3bxx1H2W/n0TWpVfviE/a99nkj630jEH6hXI97lFuXjqDd8RC6Dkk5jn/cMhGIV3+bw1mpzhmPlAxDJVSN6IB0SX27juZAwTyeiHKT4gcvkj5EedaUi95VdrLQFO6dFI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 78MAZSQVM1kFGANpoi7vqN79gQP.gcrQtbEgCWRUHBWwUiy zY.vcEg5ngSgbVyitlJu.aGMA43JaEianR6EJvidJ3bQr4fg_BgcilFANOe. 6_mEvRGjRXy20srdNtpbg7Z89b4JMvyfHLkYwwFgYFDVd1VrGzRN2CWfvt5A TD1VmFLuYjBsJmr3OYeUJSWid1SCfTPxS6MJwPGdDAo8DIiXs7XCosZX2ZZd xKNy8emgaDHvw9Mi0URilHMnsJrTwZbVgjvKToIw9uOO42dQquT18G5jkPMJ 3kxzS2WiPo_4s28PoKq1X7v9bUL5JuedrQLH2zRIYypTi1.lkbaDywqTliIu vQ6ha8zIDfBZZ5FBFVYxi06dd6pz380.U53muWxl0ho00R904pdnWkb7e2Id z9kecC9I1ux1brlkaayFGnlgHD6_vvChfETvsGWd_8CYJWFc0ilALjZWrOoc TPZ9iOZx4eXdC8Esjo4GoWvNJ_aB.zwVUJog1vdxCIsoInnmgZihvYrdH0hh Lf3uEE.g- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Aug 2012 07:51:56 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Darrell Floyd'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <8CF540A0CBF9558-1D00-42D79@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2F8wm0UM7QA+kkS3afNTOaa0WlZQAAMHlg In-Reply-To: <8CF540A0CBF9558-1D00-42D79@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My first two thoughts would be the exhaust system moving against something when you apply the brakes. Or, your rear brake shoes/pads moving just a little on the first tap. For the exhaust, just shake everything and check the clearances as you did with the rear suspension. For the brakes, jack up the rear, set the parking brake and turn the wheel forward/backward, or shift from 1st to reverse, to see if there is any play. Is it possible to have someone stand along side the car as you drive by slowly and apply the brakes to listen for the knock? Just my two cents, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Darrell Floyd Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:31 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? Hi List, Shaking down the 68 TR250 for the trip to the 2012 6-PACK Trials. I have been chasing a knock in the rear since last year's VTR NATC in Breckinridge. It is a singular knock coming out of the driver's side rear immediately after the brakes are applied. It sounds like it is coming from the brakes but that's difficult to detrimine exactly. I and others have been all over the entire rear suspension and all that we found was loose nuts on both side axle flanges. All of the suspension was entirely rebuilt with urethane bushings, new brakes, shocks and u-joints last year. The loose nuts were tightened but the knock is still present. It is fairly annoying. So I am really stumped with this one. Should I just turn the radio up louder or is this the knock that a 250 makes right before the wheel falls off? Cheers, Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 09:29:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CCA2C0CB4 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:29:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAE22C0CAE for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7TFVmI8006973 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:31:49 -0400 Received: from core-moa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.13]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0A16DE000091 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <53fc1.54bc0cab.3d6f8fe4@cs.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:31:48 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346254309; bh=7UA4XjOqosHkJ2kGao/hTPlda/SeocI8PX1PK/odI7Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Eky2cs79GX2CCdWVLpQVocn7jGHhcdUX5LkYduvOrn+EdRD1z7SEEne9Yc6O0zzfG 9IlPL01Vc2kdv/GllokzDp4wVF+fQEw67tFSLvrfFtyF9WnxO99v4oUHA+M8bk7YPd b4HLn5SwW1Hi+5rBvGfaIBWB8115tq6BelUlokdk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:446339392:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7503e35e51c49 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had what a noise that I was convinced was a rear wheel bearing. When I crawled under the car to pull the hub off I found it was the U-joint on the half shaft. What luck. U-joint problems can be obvious but sometimes they can be misleading. Dave In a message dated 8/29/2012 9:31:11 AM Central Daylight Time, tr250driver@aol.com writes: > Hi List, > Shaking down the 68 TR250 for the trip to the 2012 6-PACK Trials. I have > been > chasing a knock in the rear since last year's VTR NATC in Breckinridge. > It is > a singular knock coming out of the driver's side rear immediately after > the > brakes are applied. It sounds like it is coming from the brakes but that's > difficult to detrimine exactly. I and others have been all over the entire > rear suspension and all that we found was loose nuts on both side axle > flanges. All of the suspension was entirely rebuilt with urethane > bushings, > new brakes, shocks and u-joints last year. The loose nuts were tightened > but > the knock is still present. It is fairly annoying. So I am really stumped > with this one. Should I just turn the radio up louder or is this the > knock > that a 250 makes right before the wheel falls off? > Cheers, > Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 09:41:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A84C2D02C5 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:41:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C9BB82C0CFE for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:41:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm24.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 15:44:07 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.250] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 15:44:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Aug 2012 15:44:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 880350.42722.bm@omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23522 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Aug 2012 15:44:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1346255046; bh=xRrN6fohV8kiqARfvbDF04/qRHO4fr0JD8B3juMSrw0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QSwaoWW7FNjlZzgeJoeQ+yXu07x29RT2yQottTuRmfFihfVesqCUcXazNftEz7Cqazg3aoIp/NLDdWi1dVCnx4GpQlelFC/oxlB/PN3QSWnrQyhhuCVqRfvM60PsSdFrWf7rHJ6ZEL/66/DL2xGuCLQeIdxX2YJ4BDXy0MOFRBY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TRJrvKw3BdC3DQTPR9xsAw2Ap5eirIk6Js4fBvsbOwQco8o2rp7gCo1Kq1SlCtZpD4zr5QezYauLP1LdIi+QZ49IMaGtcqd3ocqWxNPTQhmEkYnWvDDrQtiCpiKhveOVlkyk+J1DtrQKVVyTMiv/LaLRAP7FdulvXdVTSeHL3Hs=; X-YMail-OSG: Jjhkfa0VM1lInMs9lY2cuKUMjxeJey.vkvqCDmXLbZRN5Od rij.g6eu2p.cxNDIMTyROg1OI4uXDte0Am2SXAQRWpJcKUbZFbcM0yIfjjjw boQYi0pysjp1o6XEjgAG_dyKFYf9jhkRRnwQwkdukFU_f3iPVYPhtjKPuwfS phv11BC.xJ9oo_fOckUhyCKbIHLONxx6ePkm557RE.xy55lLfJp7J7ITTOHq aIIAyuaLD07pn1Hicn_wAfz8IWUzigvOR8WMNpENp9hTO5dcUP5R88Fha1Dy z5RtZ1Lj8jRgJjAq6hpf6Qw3wAOf8rIx9TdnMNoNS1elOgYba_RqnCc0.PR5 I8i4NtKLgyYISTwCNrFr7hAL1frmnJ.CUM_qnEAqPV9iDRRoPbtHRqiBqVm3 1IXdic3PyrnobF7yyKPt9XcIQDvMTScUz2KXNtTP2M0ayJSdX_LYovkYfp6Q - Received: from [90.199.100.67] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:44:06 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <53fc1.54bc0cab.3d6f8fe4@cs.com> Message-ID: <1346255046.96304.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:44:06 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <53fc1.54bc0cab.3d6f8fe4@cs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The other thing which springs to mind is were the half shafts separated male from female during the rebuild? Service Dept accepted practice (endorsed by my shop manual on the Big Saloon with basically the same suspension set-up) recommends centre-punching each half before splitting. This way you get the same grooves and splines mating up on rebuild and a smear of copper-slip also helps Jonmac ________________________________ From: "Dave1massey@cs.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 16:31 Subject: Re: [TR] Knock in rear brakes? >I had what a noise that I was convinced was a rear wheel bearing. When I >crawled under the car to pull the hub off I found it was the U-joint on the >half shaft. What luck. > >U-joint problems can be obvious but sometimes they can be misleading. > >Dave > >In a message dated 8/29/2012 9:31:11 AM Central Daylight Time, >tr250driver@aol.com writes: >> Hi List, >> Shaking down the 68 TR250 for the trip to the 2012 6-PACK Trials. I have >> been >> chasing a knock in the rear since last year's VTR NATC in Breckinridge. >> It is >> a singular knock coming out of the driver's side rear immediately after >> the >> brakes are applied. It sounds like it is coming from the brakes but that's >> difficult to detrimine exactly. I and others have been all over the entire >> rear suspension and all that we found was loose nuts on both side axle >> flanges. All of the suspension was entirely rebuilt with urethane >> bushings, >> new brakes, shocks and u-joints last year. The loose nuts were tightened >> but >> the knock is still present. It is fairly annoying. So I am really stumped >> with this one. Should I just turn the radio up louder or is this the >> knock >> that a 250 makes right before the wheel falls off? >> Cheers, >> Darrell > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 13:36:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834E82D02E5 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:36:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881712C0BBD for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-7964.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.79.29] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T6o6J-0004Oe-34; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:38:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:38:54 -0400 Message-Id: <37508227-32FB-41B8-9468-16F47EC4F346@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 at 06:59 AM Mitch R. Meisler wrote: > > Related question. Who have you guys used to true your wire wheels? I've had > my chrome wires about 15 yrs, never had them serviced, and I'm getting a > wobble at speed that tells me it's time. An yone use Hendrix Wire Wheel in > NC? Anyone else worth considering on the East Coast? Seriously? A four line query and a 41 line signature/advertisement? I have heard good things about Hendrix and believe they have been around for some time. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 13:50:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C4F2D02BC for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:50:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.clking.com (72-0-139-103.tvc-ip.com [72.0.139.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB422C0D1C for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from clking01exc02.clkingw2k.local ([192.168.0.238]) by clking01exc02 ([192.168.0.238]) with mapi; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:48:17 -0400 From: "Mitch R. Meisler" To: 'Keith Stewart' , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:48:17 -0400 Thread-Topic: Wire Wheels--Safety Thread-Index: Ac2GHe6E/iCguP6/QV28idTEZHtHTQAATwXg Message-ID: <2B424E25DFFFC6489929D364DFBAE0990F1D5F073A@clking01exc02> References: <37508227-32FB-41B8-9468-16F47EC4F346@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <37508227-32FB-41B8-9468-16F47EC4F346@execulink.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels--Safety X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry for the 41 lines!! Forgot to delete my work propoganda Subject: Re: Wire Wheels--Safety On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 at 06:59 AM Mitch R. Meisler wrote: Related question. Who have you guys used to true your wire wheels? I've had my chrome wires about 15 yrs, never had them serviced, and I'm getting a wobble at speed that tells me it's time. An yone use Hendrix Wire Wheel in NC? Anyone else worth considering on the East Coast? Seriously? A four line query and a 41 line signature/advertisement? I have heard good things about Hendrix and believe they have been around for some time. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 16:01:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC80C2D02FD for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:01:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8721B2D02D8 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so2063771pbb.14 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HHF0NuNf4cog2V7w0ZXwBrLYxqp2a08VLby489cRVzw=; b=NSxJ9XKijYK7ZtegRKBDmRPscF6RkO0GYAkdT4YEfp0sdkmRQhgh5XjxLLTo3pNF+c WUfxWSsuD84Cr9j+RYdEZ52E/h3s3nbYurrcsl8VCfhfvm8XVPRMifuQuipaKg40hyc8 b/88TjZ6JqfMvw1LT5RJt0dtUC01hyJ87eAbc+k7BagEpyQvCabblcAGJqKSId2G9BSb vWReVZRbmetzO2GqinpA2G5D1dgUTGem7avk4SL8eTsPVZjkMlXLua4Zj8cN3l1lRhYu tGACUcDmSShcQNF/31tgeOaJKREfwcVqSLzYhmcH3sqb1D3SQg7AKQB2uQi00htSX27Q Myfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.238.138 with SMTP id vk10mr6629382pbc.75.1346267816519; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.122.66 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:16:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Perry Hammock To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Wire wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No one else to consider except Hendrix They really know their stuff Highly recommended Perry Hammock 1960 TR3A with a bent nose after a pickup truck backed into me last week ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 29 20:59:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28602D0305 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:59:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C79F2D02D8 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [96.251.6.67]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9J00ILBSFM4D80@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:02:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <503ED7B7.4090002@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:02:15 -0700 From: Kurt Oblinger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-version: 1.0 To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Trunnion Seals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone ever replaced the thin seals that go under the flat washers for the trunnion with a like sized O-ring? Those seals seem to crack and break after no time at all. I have a selection of O-rings and the 1/8" thickness, 1-3/16" ID x 1-7/16" OD fits great. Anyone see a downside to this? Thanks, Kurt Oblinger Redondo Beach, Ca. 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346357729; bh=uIDceJgwmRmaZ9xVZmJmrwWJMPvEChby8gr0B+xawjw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HAfA3jbG28DX828HcUumqvkNy9qvtxIaasyMhCpldTbu+YR/8HbUS83QC+LKveEzE EXMeJcq3SfPwy1Bt783uQG5+iQyToosB6QfNVh8ysPC1qJ5D+/9D3YVHnPEmzruaeq BIG7jnWPekPT8JM/j7+y5KUPvg/G2xfjxzZDm330= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:436606432:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948503fc9e11481 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] British Reliability Run X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here is a great weekend ride with fellow British car nuts, that is for a great cause. Please help us to drum up interest, and participants. Thanks for your help! The Route for the ABRR has been posted, and now begins and ends in Clinton, NJ! The total length of the drive will be approximately 650 miles spread out over two days with planned stops at Lime Rock Park for parade laps, Bennington, VT for a private tour of the Hemmings Gas Station led by Hemmings Sports and Exotic Editor David LaChance (who will be driving his Rover Saloon as a participant), Chester, NY for a tour of a private collection of Lotus cars, and an overnight stop in Schenectady. The route passes through NJ, NY, CT, MA, VT and PA and stays almost exclusively on State, US and back roads with little or no driving on the Interstates. Steve Klein klassiccar@aol.com Delaware Valley Triumphs October 19-21, 2012 Clinton, NJ. - America's British Reliability Run America's British Reliability Run is a 650 mile weekend drive for charity through the states of NJ, NY, CT, VT and PA. Each two person team pays their own expenses and solicits donations to the partner charity, in this case the Shriner's Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia. Since 2002, the ABRR has raised over $150,000 for worthy childrens charities throughout the US. Open to British vehicles of any vintage. Learn more atwww.BritishReliability.org. Contact: Bob DeLucia. Phone: --. Email:yukon80@comcast.net. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 05:59:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BD02D0337 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:59:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2C62D0323 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:55:34 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ou64CWA7MGgq0yJ1eXOoNUiwjX1Y5pfIStruNyQp/MaRJtVMhuF7ZT/gaHbU6D3k; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [174.28.37.174] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T7Prh-0008RY-TF for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4B428CA1D17A447FAA8D67758A6064F7@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:58:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711204dfff3d8e1b1ed1ce34187cb657358d2a5ff8b5456d58081350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 174.28.37.174 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 in Albuquerque X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Saw a very nice white TR6 parked on Coal Ave Monday morning, anyone on the list? Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 08:36:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E2C2D033F for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:36:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610F2D033D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120831143855.PKOA12025.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:38:55 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id tSem1j00V3enFnk05SevjA; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:38:55 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=uLEnQlUrOo4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=ujNRJeEdm8gA:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=bbtDYQp2AAAA:20 a=mkuR5niSAAAA:8 a=-d6zQg3C9k-Z56Ov_iEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yi4CDiRP9_AA:10 a=Nx62yfjEEQgA:10 a=BV8KyS5z4u0A:10 a=5k7k_ZURWP4A:10 a=ao4RW71Vw8YA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=WmMq0bmpYlvw_yKe:21 a=O6Gzng3t2W7XXQ-F:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G_5s8neSAAAA:8 a=VIVh8v2596Kr6dr5dI8A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=ps8IAhA1t9Y5APrJ:21 a=cDmoyrSCuK__WecS:21 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: <001901cd8786$5494d5a0$fdbe80e0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQNZW5jsj9Ji5af42GtkuOP0q9U5/JRcVOQg Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] FW: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List - Is there an additional location where the serial number might be stamped into the frame? Alex Thomson From: CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roland Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:47 AM To: CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com Subject: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 Dear Membership I have a 1965 Tr-4. I have a potential buyer But he is hesitant because the tag with the VIN number for the car is missing. I do have the car registered in Florida and have the Title Certificate. Both have the Vin listed on these certificates. Is there a solution?? Your Answers would be appreciated. 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Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 09:07:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FEF2D0361 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:07:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553DF2D033D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:09:06 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:09:01 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] Temp Gauge Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, My TR4A has a Jaeger temp gauge with a range of "C" through "H". Does anyone know the actual temperatures represented by "C" and "H"? Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 09:14:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8502A2D033D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:14:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com [17.172.220.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487972C0CA1 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:13:55 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M9M00C0PL34GU90@st11p02mm-asmtp004.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:16:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-08-31_04:2012-08-31,2012-08-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1208310140 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:16:15 -0700 Message-id: <58FC6F9F-910D-4359-8CA4-7BA3D5E453A5@mac.com> References: To: "G.D. Huggins" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Temp Gauge Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guy, The gauge on my TR4A is marked in Centigrade, it is 30 on the low end, 70 at the middle, and 100 at the high end. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 10:30:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20ED2D035B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:30:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0925B2D033B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:30:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=_47AQE0VL5YA:10 a=De-AZ4WtFzgA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JYNC7X7x690A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=N2qTxNXlEBx0Pa3wK4sA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=_Jg7-xVWj67d68AM:21 a=d5oDvASnHWtXsFxP:21 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:37531] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 82/21-13948-947E0405; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <5040E749.2050101@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:33:13 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex & Janet Thomson References: <001901cd8786$5494d5a0$fdbe80e0$@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <001901cd8786$5494d5a0$fdbe80e0$@charter.net> Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] FW: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Alex, There is a body # located somewhere near the right rear wheel well but I cant remember exactly where. But this is not the commission number you are seeking. There should also be a body # on the upper engine bay on the left just in front of the regulator. But this is not the commission number either. On my 4, the numbers around 6000 apart. I think the engine # should be closer to the commission # but cant be sure since I cannot read mine. Eyes too bad and it is painted black. Maybe you can contact your DMV for guidance? If they approve, you can buy a new plate and stamp in the number that is recorded on the title. Bob On 08/31/2012 10:38 AM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > List - Is there an additional location where the serial number might be > stamped into the frame? > > > > Alex Thomson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 10:32:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EDB2D0387 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:32:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FBE2D033B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:32:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Mhjcz0ngzB7rKLgs6EeUFu0AVo4f3jnDvRP2qsuiOFC5E65F967nCpOy6X3Zn5WA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.36] (helo=elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T7UBm-0002bk-3P; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:35:22 -0400 Received: from 198.102.153.1 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:34:56 -0400 Message-ID: <16151116.1346430897087.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:34:56 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Cliff Hansen To: Alex & Janet Thomson , Triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711204dfff3d8e1b1ed1cca93b793a0c7f580705d78c7f81acc54350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.36 Subject: Re: [TR] FW: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cliff Hansen List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Having examined every inch of two TR4A frames I would say no. There's a frame number stamped into the front crossmember but its not the same as the car's VIN. Cliff -----Original Message----- >From: Alex & Janet Thomson >Sent: Aug 31, 2012 8:38 AM >To: Triumphs@autox.team.net >Subject: [TR] FW: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 > >List - Is there an additional location where the serial number might be >stamped into the frame? > > > >Alex Thomson > > > >From: CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf >Of Roland >Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:47 AM >To: CTRIUMPH@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [CTR] Re: VIN for TR-4 1965 > > > > > > >Dear Membership > >I have a 1965 Tr-4. I have a potential buyer But he is hesitant because the >tag with the VIN number for the car is missing. I do have the car registered >in Florida and have the Title Certificate. Both have the Vin listed on these >certificates. Is there a solution?? 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(VPS 120831-0, 08/31/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] VIN for TR-4 1965 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Roland, My '67 4A had the VIN stamped on one of the front spring towers (don't recall which one), but I only saw it after I sandblasted the stripped frame. It's faint and more than likely covert with some dirt, and in a really tough spot to see unless the you have the naked frame to inspect. IMHO, if you have the clear title in hand and the car is currently registered, I don't see an issue. VIN plates are readily available from Moss and easy to stamp. Why not order a plate yourself and correct the issue? That's the simplest solution. Brian '66 AH Sprite (driver) '63 MGB (in resto process) '73 Stag (waiting patiently for her turn) ------------------------------ Dear Membership I have a 1965 Tr-4. I have a potential buyer But he is hesitant because the tag with the VIN number for the car is missing. I do have the car registered in Florida and have the Title Certificate. Both have the Vin listed on these certificates. Is there a solution?? Your Answers would be appreciated. Roland ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 13:47:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E712D035B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:47:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 687EB2D0349 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 19:47:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 674534.49399.bm@omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 89797 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Aug 2012 19:47:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346442437; bh=UQT/OqXWFUK5GWRkSLoz30J8HVxOmIZVwdTYgEJB61o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DOiPgJgIVz1L4YjwSOvnm4XyhIjr57N8Jfj8/aGWYIInhJQwMR7lxIb3ZjtRUeWNPzgxbt9yIwlMy5VVFEn6df0YUPw72tyFDi/QkNZ12nq4cGvvYvWsm4fY44hgCrpi7ETucK9Dhvo2TL3dYoPzEMIyPPA05tw+uAHrNCbgtqM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2VNmlBEOZXg/NEY2TiPjHQnDvg2HdVcx7Wi7VQjPp+wabPFOocE3xYe61K+txAqpkIcdZPdjyrZv7tYC1O1H2OhysHzMxcjV3CW/pc1rgHYm/EtvyX6sdp+Oei4HgnRXl+CGJfceLRMTvgAiLlCc6T1K5gaOqSph51RWTWTLa9A=; X-YMail-OSG: HXv_4VUVM1lOav78p3FLFrwPDEQ3u2iwpi0moQTtiiDsebw 5xy.G5TvZzDhLMYiFsIR52NGkZEFjwlZMwOCZsb.cwsTWU48CkZS0hOOg5ZX qJeey8r6mHQ0i4YZZW79PK82B3BIS3lEGdYsoo9zGrWrOQsWNPjmymGDQOxC YQnqcEeNu8DFxkU0XD2fWvfq7lCOoWARLO8KeDEYvK5IHJwy7hrPYRlxSXu0 L9gaZ3RXniod7thLTPg1yZnpZegjCXbFImWE1o1DyYCMBlo9mHM6GsUy0XT1 1.SgGg5FBr1jQG5MUStBv2RDjIryGLjFvJbFwsdl3UTsa_yO2D4KR4R7kK8U Byo7oZoRar1rKu6Z7u4FeSiTuN_8G9W6cDFzzgzYqKu0BcwSbohjzbm6bhld ayC8z6SAqqEk8moYRhNYaR.AzEIT9Bc46jGPqWpXODeZmX9b2ts7_UF_w64c vcFkRsLt_2Thf98FIXQ.k9QfQifTTqQkWcyRm0faHeHYVZg-- Received: from [108.237.132.177] by web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:47:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346442437.87150.YahooMailNeo@web161304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:47:17 -0700 (PDT) From: richard triplett To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [TR] email hacked X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: richard triplett List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry for the spam sent out. It took ~ 15 years, but my yahoo acct got hacked. A stronger password should take care of it, otherwise I will have to remove this email from the list. Good thing I only use yahoo for the TR list. Minimal contacts. Triumph-related, my TR3 is still running like a top! Richard TS75434L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 14:26:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4902D038D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:26:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC32D0357 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120831202907.YVDY24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:29:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id tYV71j00N1bBNls05YV7Ev; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:29:07 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=kfTud4QeKxsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6LdPdrtCnA8A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=_Fs6OU08kL1ID1V1VJsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50411E94.1000402@charter.net> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:29:08 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120831-0, 08/31/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Temp Gauge Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 8/31/2012 11:09 AM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > All, > > My TR4A has a Jaeger temp gauge with a range of "C" through "H". > Does anyone know the actual temperatures represented by "C" and "H"? "Chilly" and "Hades"? Sorry, it's Friday. That's the best I can do... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. - now with Extra Moisture! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 14:52:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FFE2D036B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:52:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9CF2D0359 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so5729583pbb.14 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=2TiAxixtZQyaY+4hHucC8l0AnO7d7Ot0tE0hXuNN0sU=; b=wx9Yf9V5CjBw2fQiysag58OFxhkBctcpbBuUYsoHL5ulwCiJ8T3rWLuCGmP5NSZUwf MVZodq8gxiFz4wtNHvIJ8dylpSHHG9vBgSCIojp5dXg0XHqMtb5+Z/+PvVkdAtKtBTnu ENyjJHdcAZvT74ryYA0PhmsQ7qMbB3lcC8ac8uvqbwFOe50/M4HuwFPbMIBuN3X/Nz1m hpJHxUOux6W6UbBRqaeUtmPXIKeFIrG8KTe8DfVRukZ4au0dv1dVdala2vigQ7pyThrJ 6eYyf18WilPxm5muWpihJsV4vqJjGRLzVg+Iq9Vd1+aUUQBpdgvud7LwVGUf6CW1TjoB Qpdg== Received: by 10.68.132.230 with SMTP id ox6mr19863597pbb.116.1346446492484; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip68-101-93-128.ga.at.cox.net. [68.101.93.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vh7sm4140815pbc.22.2012.08.31.13.54.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:56:24 -0400 Message-ID: <018501cd87bb$169bb630$43d32290$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: Ac2HuvLdLgiZ92uCR3i2qq2Eu9HQnA== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Vintage Triumph Signs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have any vintage Triumph dealer signs and the like that they would like to sell? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Jim Henningsen Ocala FL 62 TR4 75 TR6 Trguy75@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 15:14:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844A52D0383 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:14:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578A52D0359 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7VLGs4a013067; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:16:54 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F1C2AE000098; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1660f.6df42022.3d7283c5@cs.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:16:53 -0400 (EDT) To: guy@genfiniti.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346447814; bh=XibeLUKdncjdsE14WsNGtRgzSSlzbDGapQIhNaAPPyo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X1nkfb/62+fBLGMdHzjJ55zoHhuFP2swQ7ohTtgIzLm6nFL9tf/Krnn/iN+B29gut GnXR410Pwb2iQk+1eRP7d2bWopBtzWsF75B5JfG6yu6NoMGU+aGX+4CBodw4Dt3wQH HM85aXGRmz2cQKmpf6vnRPR3eyWZKzWDdM7pZzAQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:398480672:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e504129c5560d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Temp Gauge Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That's the beauty of using "C" and "H," you don't have to worry about accuracy. Dave In a message dated 8/31/2012 10:10:42 AM Central Daylight Time, guy@genfiniti.com writes: > My TR4A has a Jaeger temp gauge with a range of "C" through "H". > Does anyone know the actual temperatures represented by "C" and "H"? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 16:55:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E552D03A8 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:55:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292202D0387 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:53:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q7VMuOUQ012885 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:56:24 -0400 Received: from core-dqe003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.73]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B9A36E000081 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:56:24 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alan Myers X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36912-STANDARD Received: from 74.95.11.209 by Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.213) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:56:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF55E2FB001271-CF8-68DCF@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [74.95.11.209] Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:56:24 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346453784; bh=1mPi7W9hfVPvMHe4wqg/nhplUybNxYAq7pFhgYDTwTw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nT2INeVOXUXi2NW4+N02MzxIZVTqskQSX1MWBmEUL6Kw2RpR50ZLIsgoK+VHZfmxO ZPq3yPwj+NI88V6MiUf/xbIzYbZx30EcwuP/PGXmtgKp8SfxcKzlUK5skqOfwXNlzU o3KU0Xp3w0MTeDW6NbAJUNJUFEBC6v6iEiEAISbk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:471925056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29095041411866ed X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] VIN for TR-4 1965 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Roland, Sorry, but as others have already responded, none of the other numbers you might find will match the VIN. There are numbers on the body, the frame, the engine, the gearbox and the rear end.... Some of those might be close, but on Triumphs they never match the VIN number. Sometimes they are way, way off. There was no effort made to match the numbers at the factory. Whatever happened to be on top of the pile got put together, period. Last time I looked, you can buy brand new VIN plates, not yet imprinted with the number. Check with all the usual suppliers. I'm sure one or several offer them. Take one of those and your registration and/or title to a machine shop and have them stamp the number onto it for you (if you don't want to buy a set of number stamps and do it yourself). If I recall correctly, the letters and numbers are 1/4 inch tall. On a TR4 what will probably be imprinted is first the year of registration followed by "CT", then the number, followed by "L" for lefthand drive, and possibly by "O" if your car was originally fitted with an overdrive. For example, on my car it's "1964 CT17602L". After it's stamped, pop rivet the new VIN plate onto the car (usually located on the flat area sort of under the wiper motor on TR4), and you're all set! Problem solved! If you didn't have the title certificate or wanted to check its accuracy, you can get a British Motor Industry Heritage Trust build certificate for your car that will list all the original details of your car, including some of the serial numbers, interior and exterior colors, factory installed options and accessories, the port of departure from England and port of arrival in the US, and usually even the name of the ship that brought it to the new world. If you want a build certificate, you'll have to check with BMIHT to see how long it takes and what they need to track one down. I just gave them my VIN number when I ordered my build certificate years ago, but they might be able to cross reference from one of the other numbers, if you locate those and are certain that parts never been swapped out for one from another car. Here's a link to BMIHT: http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/archive-services/ Alan Myers San Jose, Calif. amfoto1@aol.com '62 TR CT 17602L twww.triumphowners.com/640 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-request To: triumphs Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2012 11:06 am Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 357 Dear Membership I have a 1965 Tr-4. I have a potential buyer But he is hesitant because the tag with the VIN number for the car is missing. I do have the car registered in Florida and have the Title Certificate. Both have the Vin listed on these certificates. Is there a solution?? Your Answers would be appreciated. Roland ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 17:26:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC502D0390 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:26:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 629FD2D033B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:25:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 23:28:29 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.98] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 23:28:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2012 23:28:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 27865.2726.bm@omp1003.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95806 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2012 23:28:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=RMfGD+GLogOm9O9bk/gvqkyBzV6INnlc8ZeKmHTB6Ela0RitsdPTh75jZiaMXwaVK5XrOzwO+ccFVFFma7nC37i+4OJVY9FIBaGPPbaenZsUCmCOl1Hv+gCdteAi29TOvNT1MOVqlSohWiaExAxx+yadJmYOMv2ESUyQMahLPmE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346455708; bh=8vHCFrUnIGEj5YLBXtrMXSFQNqe8TLqJ6hSd5eUz9xk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=T7YBohbbLbELs+a68e3P2Z/Hf6dPPgoSAAT5GV1c7z4QBaw0yP3HBLalb/usXQWaJhe+2I4KncRMkY0156F51bFSJVZrjcIepkwsYdeL4j4HAiZwUyUMY1NPg3gauFWgvohHA4SXjNcQ4nsOx9nKUcSusaeQ4dUmDa87EKzKB5c= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: j6XFjfwVM1ljsvRGIVE6zXnXRX32qn.hTEd.KqsSqOQXo.e c9SO2FS9N5HS3dudp9RsCvn_xP9BJOaAZtI9bOE3k8nL_HEygDVle_YgWw7H eNU1ok1ZwmiGHNnZ3UUCgqdlzQN783BVRMeqxSWDChZ_YTvrw3UqDNr.kkao wk8J2RdFzazGpR5tfg0qCjtFZ5RpHnUf3TbHJIV3cWk7a4mAnbG_YnXRV0EQ 89vK6tw9vQkwVmoi_iZ.t36nRF1MjqojCEeeTjLsCh1I_67dvJLFUHWpLKap w4YWxp4FoEbH_P_1n6CfXWYcuQRBv_hQQ65rCfZwVduzRjJmh2PEE7FCQtKN 7lWMCJaSBzyWj8W8JUTxWSqRjt6fVxO8J3TkK31W7kvGA8vYYp1W5SMrZKhP 31sfUYVXTbk_lJEJmTjm.jCCtRfitP8Rn2pZ9YljSbcdXNuoKemd49Li0TDX coWlwEBf6W2lgziHpwmphgct7ybJOXjZ4Xhe72yHZUhoiuwBK9yIl4GKWR0_ 5mecst6xHX6qPB3T40PaOKLuVlwdvRJG9E1vbmCS6ogO.M1IVJCKRxTqi1mB xUsyx1iqq5aSuw6cvxgdNh9r.783pbKWge9JskRpjt3jpKCYH.ECtT9hnFxn aIOy1JJuRN9NgUFapzI.SF3bVXyz_y.2NLYvSEkuvIhGZxGlfQuR892rgjbY ZUwfrN6f93Ru1pKL0HynewXdZyJY5iRW6t9LTiXUN3bl0hEwV7uD.4XImi3v 2 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2012 16:28:28 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:28:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2FMGCl7Tp6TzxoSN+7gw/hYMMFDwCnpZfQ Subject: [TR] TR3 Adustable Upper Fulcrum Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know if the link below for Moss UK will come through but I got an email ad from them this week for an adjustable upper fulcrum kit. Seems this would be a fine addition to the handling of a basically stock TR3. Moss UK part number is: 200659X at a cost of #122.46. Has anyone used these? Are they worth the investment? Is there a stateside source, as Moss US does not list them? View adjusted front upper fulcrum kit: Have a great weekend, NFI, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ________________________________ From: Moss Europe Ltd. [mailto:moss@moss-europe.co.uk] ________________________________ Customer favourites recommended by our very own Sales Team! ...This is what our sales team say other TR2-4A customers have been buying recently... Adjustable Front Upper Fulcrum Kit Allows easy adjustment of the camber angle of the front suspension. Designed primarily for competition use to give maximum control for setting the camber angle, it is also useful for correcting alignment problems on slightly distorted chassis. Tweet this product View adjustable front upper fulcrum kit Part No. 200659X #122.46 ex VAT #146.95 inc VAT View adjusted front upper fulcrum kit Tweet this product 5/5 Stars! Kind regards, Matthew Hutchins Marketing Manager ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 17:42:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D6A2D03B0 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:42:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38662D038D for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1869154lbo.14 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q4CBIOsAuCDNYa9Ju1AaqppR7reTK2+uNmkF8cb+0M0=; b=ZZu9+laSONglcioU1jZUGeQK0EKeW+Xe78BTv8eOB4gOao4IDBaV4Z+jq7tchTXbX4 ikWHOMM1Xt0QoM6uUWrHSoGF+K8be1sSBdlTyyvfQsItBWFeKH4Q+BuQDpI6OjAbwOpC At1ayrQ9XlZaLhAj+JMkwRPARi6POmDpYECS+DjPnN8Y05nmExRcrBZ9WChUksrDEcNP zEIyUU5BeGvWBq2ycPIe0Vi4suah3HgNbFPlYUrpHS0C+yyOlcyvvRY29QTv9TWiDTWE fXdiCmajS8gJ/d9/Cdb5SOZvJpwADSHbgQ5JmLRpCtTUqgDdV5JI8NCzobsQkNMwSojL Kz8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.26.38 with SMTP id i6mr1225484lbg.76.1346456679501; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Wbeech , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Adustable Upper Fulcrum Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That TR2-4 upper fulcrum kit is one of Neil Revington's parts. http://www.revingtontr.com/shop/product_display.asp?mscssid=WW7WU9QQ62H98J16EUQ134N19UNT5AV2&CarType=TR3&ProductID=RTR3112K http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=7614&SortOrder=1 I don't have one on my car, and I've heard only a little about it (positive FWIW). Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 8/31/12, Wbeech wrote: > Don't know if the link below for Moss UK will come through but I got an > email ad from them this week for an adjustable upper fulcrum kit. Seems > this would be a fine addition to the handling of a basically stock TR3. > Moss UK part number is: 200659X at a cost of #122.46. > > Has anyone used these? Are they worth the investment? Is there a > stateside > source, as Moss US does not list them? > > View adjusted front upper fulcrum kit: > > > Have a great weekend, NFI, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > ________________________________ > > From: Moss Europe Ltd. [mailto:moss@moss-europe.co.uk] > ________________________________ > > Customer favourites recommended by our very own Sales Team! > > ...This is what our sales team say other TR2-4A customers have been buying > recently... > > Adjustable Front Upper Fulcrum Kit > mail=wbeech@flash.net> > Allows easy adjustment of the camber angle of the front suspension. > Designed > primarily for competition use to give maximum control for setting the > camber > angle, it is also useful for correcting alignment problems on slightly > distorted chassis. > > Tweet this product adjustable front upper fulcrum kit from Moss Europe http://bit.ly/RpSwCT > @MossEurope> View adjustable front upper fulcrum kit > mail=wbeech@flash.net> > Part No. 200659X > #122.46 ex VAT > #146.95 inc VAT > > View adjusted front upper fulcrum kit > mail=wbeech@flash.net> Tweet this product > 5/5 > Stars! > > Kind regards, > Matthew Hutchins > Marketing Manager > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 31 18:13:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB282D037E for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:13:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBDB2D0373 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120901001058.CIEJ24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:10:58 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id tcAs1j00D3enFnk05cAy2C; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:10:58 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=mdKTcKI-I-IA:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=wvkCJocToPvFN5leExwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=B1bSUZ-t0OYJnydrdJsA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <001501cd87d6$4144ee40$c3cecac0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: Ac2H1f8vT0CeqjLFTMir//BaVKQuGw== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] VIN Plate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers - Thanks to all who responded to a CTR member's question about VIN plates. Alex Thomson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net