Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rotted Tiger

From: Gary Winblad via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 07:33:24 -0700

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Hi Jay,
I am one that has been saying good things.
Its the first entry level project that i have seen on BAT in a long time.
Yeah, its a non-runner.  Yeah, its not a good candidate for a full show
quality car.
BUT, it looks (and its hard to really tell from a few photos I know) like
it could be a runner pretty easily.
It takes me back to Tigers we were buying in the '70s.
It doesn't have the huge rust problem.. though the floors have been very
abused.  Panhard bar frame
mount has been "fixed" poorly too.
I don't see the twisted body up front.. it looks to me like just the
bumpers (both) are toast.
Its NR with 4 hours to go and bid is only $7600 but too, its in FL.
Gary W.

On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 6:22=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> I'm surprised how many people are saying positive things about this car.
> The amount of patches, rust holes showing light, wobbly metal, a new pain=
t
> job to hide how really bad the body is, and the twisted shape of the body
> up front.  Ugh.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-tiger-26/
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Jay,</div><div>I am one that has been saying good =
things.</div><div>Its the first entry level project that i have seen on BAT=
 in a long time.</div><div>Yeah, its a non-runner.=C2=A0 Yeah, its not a go=
od candidate for a full show quality car.</div><div>BUT, it looks (and its =
hard to really tell from a few photos I know) like it could be a runner pre=
tty easily.</div><div>It takes me back to Tigers we were buying in the &#39=
;70s.</div><div>It doesn&#39;t have the huge rust problem.. though the floo=
rs have been very abused.=C2=A0 Panhard bar frame</div><div>mount has been =
&quot;fixed&quot; poorly too.</div><div>I don&#39;t see the twisted body up=
 front.. it looks to me like just the bumpers (both) are toast.</div><div>I=
ts NR with 4 hours to go and bid is only $7600 but too, its in FL.</div><di=
v>Gary W.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quo=
te_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 3, 2025 at =
6:22=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ja=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m surprised how many people are s=
aying positive things about this car.=C2=A0 The amount of patches, rust hol=
es showing light, wobbly metal, a new paint job to hide how really bad the =
body is, and the twisted shape of the body up front.=C2=A0 Ugh. =C2=A0<div>=
<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-ti=
ger-26/" target=3D"_blank">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-t=
iger-26/</a><br></div></div>
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From: Jay Laifman <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 08:43:24 -0700

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Yeah, it's always a balance.  I hate when people go on BAT and just trash a
car.  But then I figure every seller using the platform has to know that is
the risk.  I wonder if the potential sale prices make it worth it.

There is a guy who sells Porsches on BAT.  He has the greatest write ups
and pictures - they all look in top condition.  Yet, I also see those cars
get relisted, and when they are, they show a fair amount of work that had
to be done.  It just goes to show you just how real buyer beware is on BAT.

I'm still amazed how many people spend high dollars on cars on BAT without
a real inspection.

I think on this Tiger, someone may strip off the paint and find a disaster
that is not remotely economical to repair.

On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 7:33=E2=80=AFAM Gary Winblad <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

> On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 6:22=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>
>> The amount of patches, rust holes showing light, wobbly metal, a new pai=
nt
>> job to hide how really bad the body is, and the twisted shape of the bod=
y
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-tiger-26/

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yeah, it&#39;s always=C2=A0a balance.=C2=A0 I hate when pe=
ople go on BAT and just trash a car.=C2=A0 But then I figure every seller u=
sing the platform has to know that is the risk.=C2=A0 I wonder if the poten=
tial sale prices make it worth it.<div><br></div><div>There is a guy who se=
lls Porsches on BAT.=C2=A0 He has the greatest write ups and pictures - the=
y all look in top=C2=A0condition.=C2=A0 Yet, I also see those cars get reli=
sted, and when they are, they show a fair amount of work that had to be don=
e.=C2=A0 It just goes to show you just how real buyer beware is on BAT.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m still amazed how many people spend high dolla=
rs on cars on BAT without a real inspection.</div><div><br></div><div>I thi=
nk on this Tiger, someone may strip off the paint and find a disaster that =
is not remotely economical to repair.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ma=
y 3, 2025 at 7:33=E2=80=AFAM Gary Winblad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:winbladgary=
@gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Jay,</div><div>I am one that has been saying good =
things.</div><div>Its the first entry level project that i have seen on BAT=
 in a long time.</div><div>Yeah, its a non-runner.=C2=A0 Yeah, its not a go=
od candidate for a full show quality car.</div><div>BUT, it looks (and its =
hard to really tell from a few photos I know) like it could be a runner pre=
tty easily.</div><div>It takes me back to Tigers we were buying in the &#39=
;70s.</div><div>It doesn&#39;t have the huge rust problem.. though the floo=
rs have been very abused.=C2=A0 Panhard bar frame</div><div>mount has been =
&quot;fixed&quot; poorly too.</div><div>I don&#39;t see the twisted body up=
 front.. it looks to me like just the bumpers (both) are toast.</div><div>I=
ts NR with 4 hours to go and bid is only $7600 but too, its in FL.</div><di=
v>Gary W.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 6:22=E2=80=AFAM Jay La=
ifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jay.la=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:so=
lid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
&#39;m surprised how many people are saying positive things about this car.=
=C2=A0 The amount of patches, rust holes showing light, wobbly metal, a new=
 paint job to hide how really bad the body is, and the twisted shape of the=
 body up front.=C2=A0 Ugh. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://bri=
ngatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-tiger-26/" target=3D"_blank">https://br=
ingatrailer.com/listing/1964-sunbeam-tiger-26/</a><br></div></div>
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