Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Master Cylinder

From: Terry Packer via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 22:29:11 +0000 (UTC)

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I was looking at the clutch hydraulics on my Mk1 to ensure the clutch slave is producing maximum travel. What I noticed is some lost motion in the clutch master cylinder between the pushrod and the piston. It's definitely there and not in the clevis/clutch pedal, etc. My first thought is that the master piston should return until it bottoms against the dome of the pushrod, which is stopped by the bore washer/circlip. Before going any further I thought I'd confirm whether or not this "play" of 1/8" or so between the pushrod and piston is a fault or not. I'm hoping that it is and correcting it will result in the slave producing a touch more travel.

Thanks in advance.Terry

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h slave is producing maximum travel. What I noticed is some lost motion in =
the clutch master cylinder between the pushrod and the piston. It's definit=
ely there and not in the clevis/clutch pedal, etc. My first thought is that=
 the master piston should return until it bottoms against the dome of the p=
ushrod, which is stopped by the bore washer/circlip. Before going any furth=
er I thought I'd confirm whether or not this "play" of 1/8" or so between t=
he pushrod and piston is a fault or not. I'm hoping that it is and correcti=
ng it will result in the slave producing a touch more travel.<br></div><div=
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From: Terry Packer via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 02:28:01 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi All
Upon re-reading my previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward question. Should the clutch master piston return the full length of the bore until it contacts the pushrod dome or is some space between the two normal/permissible?
Thanks AgainTerry

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From: Gary <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:46:36 -0700

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Terry,
I am pretty sure it should return all the way.
Have you taken it apart?  There is a spring
inside and I have had them break before.
Gary Winblad

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Terry,<div>I am pretty sure it should retur=
n all the way.</div><div>Have you taken it apart? &nbsp;There is a spring</d=
iv><div>inside and I have had them break before.</div><div>Gary Winblad</div=
><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:45 PM, Terry Packer via Tig=
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iv><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Upon re-reading my previ=
ous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward question. Should the clut=
ch master piston return the full length of the bore until it contacts the pu=
shrod dome or is some space between the two normal/permissible?</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 11:54:21 -0400

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I=E2=80=99ve rebuilt several. The piston is retained by the domed part of t=
he push
rod which is in turn held in via the circlip. There should be no gap. If
your piston is hanging up then it may be buggered inside the bore.

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> Upon re-reading my previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforwar=
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> question. Should the clutch master piston return the full length of the
> bore until it contacts the pushrod dome or is some space between the two
> normal/permissible?
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> Thanks Again
> Terry
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<div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve rebuilt several. The piston is retained by t=
he domed part of the push rod which is in turn held in via the circlip. The=
re should be no gap. If your piston is hanging up then it may be buggered i=
nside the bore.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div><img src=3D"cid:18b52ef7b=
4367e74c241" style=3D"max-width: 100%;"></div><br></div><div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 20, 2023=
 at 10:45 PM Terry Packer via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
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es new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif"></div><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">Hi =
All</div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new yo=
rk&quot;,times,serif"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif">Upon re-reading my=
 previous post I think I failed to ask a straightforward question. Should t=
he clutch master piston return the full length of the bore until it contact=
s the pushrod dome or is some space between the two normal/permissible?</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;n=
ew york&quot;,times,serif"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:=
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