Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks

From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 20:54:13 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade t=
he coil springs and pair them with a softer shock.<div><br></div><div>I drov=
e my Tiger from Jenning=E2=80=99s Ohio shop home to Atlanta with stronger sp=
rings - and no front shock at all.</div><div><br></div><div>-Allan Ballard</=
div><div>Series I v6 Alpine</div><div>Mk1a Tiger<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sen=
t from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 2=
4, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrot=
e:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">A=
nybody know what Dale's Restorations uses for shocks?&nbsp; Probably not Kon=
is but likely a well-researched choice.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <=
br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarqm=
ail.com</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36=E2=80=AFPM Tom W=
itt via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked
      into having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code
      originality. He was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted
      $250 just to service EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint
      the shocks (apparently not included in the rebuild price). That
      came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Ironically the shocks could
      be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So, if you are
      considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable you might
      want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion
      thread: <a href=3D"http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,=
page=3D1" target=3D"_blank">http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,11689=
60,page=3D1</a>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni
      front set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They
      seemed to be available for the motorcycle line but not the
      automotive line. When I consider the above experiences and the
      reply from Rick I get the impression Koni is only interested in
      the exclusive customer that has no problem in paying the exclusive
      price.<br>
    </p>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT
      and asked her to put the word out.&nbsp; Maybe they can generate some
      interest as well...<br>
      Craig<br>
      <br>
      <div>On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood
        via Tigers wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
       =20
        <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
color:black">
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10p=
t;color:black">Sounds
            like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think
            about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty
            serious, probably better to do as a group buy, I guess.
            Anyone want to quantify the current demand? ;)&nbsp;</div>
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10p=
t;color:black"><br>
          </div>
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10p=
t;color:black">Mike<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            -----Original Message-----<br>
            From: Craig via Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            To: michael king <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
            <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tiger=
[email-masked]</a><br>
            Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm<br>
            Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div id=3D"m_-4800395526367973402yiv8566430403">
            <div> Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.&nbsp;=

              <br clear=3D"none">
              Classic Garage sent me this response:<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, we are out and have no plans to
                order a new production run. We need to order a minimum
                of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. Unless a club
                or other organization wants to commit -&nbsp; with deposits,=

                to&nbsp; more than half of the run, this is not happening.
                Used to be we received lots of queries and had deposits
                for a fair number before we ordered, even with that, it
                took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only
                the second inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020.
                Does not look like there is enough demand any longer. <br cl=
ear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck,</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Ann</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">customer service<br clear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div><br clear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://classicgarage.com" target=3D=
"_blank">classicgarage.com</a></div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">997 Route 22</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Brewster, NY 10509</div>
              845-940-1900<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Hopefully someone will want to order more!<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <div id=3D"m_-4800395526367973402yiv8566430403yqt98439">
                <div>On 5/21/2023
                  7:27 PM, michael king wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div id=3D"m_-4800395526367973402yiv8566430403yqt31587">
              <div>
                <div>Rick=3D sunbeam specialties =F0=9F=98=89</div>
                <br clear=3D"none">
                <div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon,
                    22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, &lt;<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                    <div> I'm sorry.&nbsp; I'm new here.&nbsp; Could you giv=
e me
                      Rick's number?<br clear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div>On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via
                        Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                        <div>
                          <p>Rick has a
                            slew of Koni=E2=80=99s for Tigers- when I bought=

                            mine last year he had dozens left- give him
                            a call!</p>
                          <p>&nbsp;</p>
                          <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none=
;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
                            <p><b>From:</b>
                              Tigers <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt;</a>
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Wood via
                              Tigers<br clear=3D"none">
                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM<br c=
lear=3D"none">
                              <b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>;
                              <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sixtysixt=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Shocks</p>
                          </div>
                          <p>&nbsp;</p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;color:black">I
                                  can check with my friends at KONI, but
                                  I seem to remember that the guy at
                                  Classic Garage was the only vendor
                                  ordering the Tiger part numbers. I
                                  guess just call him and see if they
                                  are having more made.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Mike<br clear=3D"none">
                                  <br clear=3D"none">
                                  <br clear=3D"none">
                                  -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"non=
e">
                                  From: Craig via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
                                  To: Arden Bedell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow
                                    noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sixtysixtiger@hotmai=
l.com</a>&gt;;
                                  <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sh=
ape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
                                  Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm<br clear=3D=
"none">
                                  Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div id=3D"m_-4800395526367973402yiv8566430403m_=
6809814893376715718yiv7160800527">
                              <div>
                                <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Looks
                                    like they are both "Out of Stock".&nbsp;=

                                    <br clear=3D"none">
                                    Darn it&nbsp; :-(</span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black">On
                                      5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell
                                      via Tigers wrote:</span></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:black">Classic
                                    Garage:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-b=
ottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"h=
ttps://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html" target=3D"_blank">https://classicgar=
age.com/sunbeam3.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:black">Koni
                                    front shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-b=
ottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"h=
ttps://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html" target=3D"_blank">https://classicg=
arage.com/sualtifrsh.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:black">Koni
                                    rear shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-b=
ottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"h=
ttps://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html" target=3D"_blank">https://classicg=
arage.com/sualtiresh.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black">On 5/20/23
                                      4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers
                                      wrote:</span></p>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-b=
ottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:black">Front: 8210
                                      1160. (6 may be a 0 can=E2=80=99t tell=
 for
                                      sure) </span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black">Older Koni
                                        adjustable off the car</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black">-&nbsp;</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black">Rear shocks
                                        are still on the car</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black"><br clear=3D"none">
                                          <br clear=3D"none">
                                        </span></p>
                                      <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;ma=
rgin-bottom:5pt">
                                        <div>
                                          <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:sans-serif;color:black">On May 19,
                                              2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig
                                              via Tigers <a rel=3D"nofollow n=
oopener
                                                noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt;</a>
                                              wrote:</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Does
                                                anyone have the part
                                                numbers for Koni's?&nbsp;
                                                Front and back?&nbsp; I
                                                contacted Vivid Racing
                                                and they just sent me
                                                pages and pages to pick
                                                from.<br clear=3D"none">
                                                Would appreciate any
                                                help.<br clear=3D"none">
                                                Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">
                                                Craig</span></p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">On
                                                  5/16/2023 7:23 AM,
                                                  Will Seay via Tigers
                                                  wrote:</span></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:=
5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">OK, might
                                                      as well add my
                                                      2-cents worth.&nbsp; I=

                                                      put Konis on my
                                                      Tiger in about
                                                      '68.&nbsp; They're
                                                      still working
                                                      great after about
                                                      55 years.</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Will -
                                                          382001570 <br clea=
r=3D"none">
                                                          <a rel=3D"nofollow=

                                                          noopener
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"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@embarq=
mail.com</a></span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <p><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">On Tue, May
                                                      16, 2023 at
                                                      2:55=E2=80=AFAM
                                                      twotigers--- via
                                                      Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"n=
ofollow
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                                                      wrote:</span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote style=3D"border-=
top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                                  <p style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Yup,=

                                                      Konis. Just
                                                      replaced my old
                                                      KYB gas shocks-
                                                      what a difference!<br c=
lear=3D"none">
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                                                      On Behalf Of Dr.
                                                      T. Y. McDowell<br clea=
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                                                      Sent: Monday, May
                                                      15, 2023 3:40 PM<br cl=
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                                                      To: Peter and
                                                      Bonnie MacDonald
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                                                      Me too! Konis are
                                                      the way to go.<br clea=
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                                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                                      Tym McDowell<br clear=3D=
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                                                      &gt; On 05/15/2023
                                                      3:13 PM Peter and
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                                                      &gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D=
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                                                      &gt; I have used
                                                      KONI=E2=80=99s for man=
y
                                                      years with good
                                                      performance. They
                                                      are adjustable and
                                                      they can also be
                                                      rebuilt.<br clear=3D"n=
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Is there a reason people aren't using SPAX ? They are adjustable,  have
shocks made for Alpines and Tigers and iirc were better value than the
Koni.. they are not rebuildable... But they cost less than a Koni
rebuild... And you get new shocks ...

On Thu, 25 May 2023, 9:05 am Allan Ballard via Tigers, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade the coil springs and pair them
> with a softer shock.
>
> I drove my Tiger from Jenning=E2=80=99s Ohio shop home to Atlanta with st=
ronger
> springs - and no front shock at all.
>
> -Allan Ballard
> Series I v6 Alpine
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Anybody know what Dale's Restorations uses for shocks?  Probably not Koni=
s
> but likely a well-researched choice.
>
> Will - 382001570
> [email-masked]
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36=E2=80=AFPM Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox=
.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked into
>> having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code originality. He w=
as
>> directed to a Koni service center. They wanted $250 just to service EACH
>> shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint the shocks (apparently not includ=
ed
>> in the rebuild price). That came to $2,380 less tax and shipping.
>> Ironically the shocks could be purchased new for $623 for the set of fou=
r.
>> So, if you are considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable yo=
u
>> might want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion
>> thread: http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=3D1
>>
>> Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni front
>> set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They seemed to be
>> available for the motorcycle line but not the automotive line. When I
>> consider the above experiences and the reply from Rick I get the impress=
ion
>> Koni is only interested in the exclusive customer that has no problem in
>> paying the exclusive price.
>>
>> On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT and
>> asked her to put the word out.  Maybe they can generate some interest as
>> well...
>> Craig
>>
>> On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think about
>> taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty serious, probably
>> better to do as a group buy, I guess. Anyone want to quantify the curren=
t
>> demand? ;)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Craig via Tigers <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
>> To: michael king <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>;
>> [email-masked]
>> Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]=
>
>> Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>
>> Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.
>> Classic Garage sent me this response:
>>
>> Sorry, we are out and have no plans to order a new production run. We
>> need to order a minimum of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. Unles=
s a
>> club or other organization wants to commit -  with deposits, to  more th=
an
>> half of the run, this is not happening. Used to be we received lots of
>> queries and had deposits for a fair number before we ordered, even with
>> that, it took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only the sec=
ond
>> inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020. Does not look like there i=
s
>> enough demand any longer.
>> Good luck,
>> Ann
>> customer service
>>
>> classicgarage.com
>> 997 Route 22
>> Brewster, NY 10509
>> 845-940-1900
>>
>> Hopefully someone will want to order more!
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/2023 7:27 PM, michael king wrote:
>>
>> Rick=3D sunbeam specialties =F0=9F=98=89
>>
>> On Mon, 22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry.  I'm new here.  Could you give me Rick's number?
>>
>> On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> Rick has a slew of Koni=E2=80=99s for Tigers- when I bought mine last ye=
ar he had
>> dozens left- give him a call!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]>
>> <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Michael Wood via Tigers
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM
>> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>
>>
>>
>> I can check with my friends at KONI, but I seem to remember that the guy
>> at Classic Garage was the only vendor ordering the Tiger part numbers. I
>> guess just call him and see if they are having more made.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Craig via Tigers <[email-masked]>
>> To: Arden Bedell <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
>> Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>
>> Looks like they are both "Out of Stock".
>> Darn it  :-(
>>
>> On 5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> Classic Garage:
>>
>> https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html
>>
>> Koni front shocks:
>>
>> https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html
>>
>> Koni rear shocks:
>>
>> https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/23 4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> Front: 8210 1160. (6 may be a 0 can=E2=80=99t tell for sure)
>>
>> Older Koni adjustable off the car
>>
>> -
>>
>> Rear shocks are still on the car
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig via Tigers <[email-masked]>
>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have the part numbers for Koni's?  Front and back?  I
>> contacted Vivid Racing and they just sent me pages and pages to pick fro=
m.
>> Would appreciate any help.
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>>
>> On 5/16/2023 7:23 AM, Will Seay via Tigers wrote:
>>
>> OK, might as well add my 2-cents worth.  I put Konis on my Tiger in abou=
t
>> '68.  They're still working great after about 55 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will - 382001570
>> [email-masked]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 2:55=E2=80=AFAM twotigers--- via Tigers <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, Konis. Just replaced my old KYB gas shocks- what a difference!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Dr. T. Y.
>> McDowell
>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 3:40 PM
>> To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald <[email-masked]>;
>> [email-masked]
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
>>
>> Me too! Konis are the way to go.
>>
>> Tym McDowell
>> > On 05/15/2023 3:13 PM Peter and Bonnie MacDonald <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I have used KONI=E2=80=99s for many years with good performance. They =
are
>> adjustable and they can also be rebuilt.
>> >
>> > Peter
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is there a reason people aren&#39;t using SPAX ? They are=
 adjustable,=C2=A0 have shocks made for Alpines and Tigers and iirc were be=
tter value than the Koni.. they are not rebuildable... But they cost less t=
han a Koni rebuild... And you get new shocks ...</div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 25 May 2023, 9:05 a=
m Allan Ballard via Tigers, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ti=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"auto">If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade the coil sprin=
gs and pair them with a softer shock.<div><br></div><div>I drove my Tiger f=
rom Jenning=E2=80=99s Ohio shop home to Atlanta with stronger springs - and=
 no front shock at all.</div><div><br></div><div>-Allan Ballard</div><div>S=
eries I v6 Alpine</div><div>Mk1a Tiger<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my=
 iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 24, 2023=
, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:s=
mall">Anybody know what Dale&#39;s Restorations uses for shocks?=C2=A0 Prob=
ably not Konis but likely a well-researched choice.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
martmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Will - 382001570 <br><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Tige=
[email-masked]</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36=E2=
=80=AFPM Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked
      into having his Koni&#39;s rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code
      originality. He was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted
      $250 just to service EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint
      the shocks (apparently not included in the rebuild price). That
      came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Ironically the shocks could
      be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So, if you are
      considering buying Koni&#39;s because they are rebuildable you might
      want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion
      thread: <a href=3D"http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960=
,page=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://corvaircenter.com/ph=
orum/read.php?1,1168960,page=3D1</a>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni
      front set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They
      seemed to be available for the motorcycle line but not the
      automotive line. When I consider the above experiences and the
      reply from Rick I get the impression Koni is only interested in
      the exclusive customer that has no problem in paying the exclusive
      price.<br>
    </p>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT
      and asked her to put the word out.=C2=A0 Maybe they can generate some
      interest as well...<br>
      Craig<br>
      <br>
      <div>On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood
        via Tigers wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
       =20
        <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;color:black">
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10=
pt;color:black">Sounds
            like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think
            about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty
            serious, probably better to do as a group buy, I guess.
            Anyone want to quantify the current demand? ;)=C2=A0</div>
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10=
pt;color:black"><br>
          </div>
          <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10=
pt;color:black">Mike<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            -----Original Message-----<br>
            From: Craig via Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            To: michael king <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
            <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
            Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><=
br>
            Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm<br>
            Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv85664304=
03">
            <div> Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.=C2=
=A0
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Classic Garage sent me this response:<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, we are out and have no plans to
                order a new production run. We need to order a minimum
                of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. Unless a club
                or other organization wants to commit -=C2=A0 with deposits=
,
                to=C2=A0 more than half of the run, this is not happening.
                Used to be we received lots of queries and had deposits
                for a fair number before we ordered, even with that, it
                took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only
                the second inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020.
                Does not look like there is enough demand any longer. <br c=
lear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck,</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Ann</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">customer service<br clear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div><br clear=3D"none">
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://classicgarage.com" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">classicgarage.com</a></div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">997 Route 22</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Brewster, NY 10509</div>
              845-940-1900<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Hopefully someone will want to order more!<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv8566=
430403yqt98439">
                <div>On 5/21/2023
                  7:27 PM, michael king wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv856643=
0403yqt31587">
              <div>
                <div>Rick=3D sunbeam specialties =F0=9F=98=89</div>
                <br clear=3D"none">
                <div>
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon,
                    22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                    <div> I&#39;m sorry.=C2=A0 I&#39;m new here.=C2=A0 Coul=
d you give me
                      Rick&#39;s number?<br clear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div>On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via
                        Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                        <div>
                          <p>Rick has a
                            slew of Koni=E2=80=99s for Tigers- when I bough=
t
                            mine last year he had dozens left- give him
                            a call!</p>
                          <p>=C2=A0</p>
                          <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:non=
e;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0i=
n">
                            <p><b>From:</b>
                              Tigers <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">&lt;tigers-boun=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Wood via
                              Tigers<br clear=3D"none">
                              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM<br =
clear=3D"none">
                              <b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>;
                              <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer norefe=
rrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Shocks</p>
                          </div>
                          <p>=C2=A0</p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;color:black">I
                                  can check with my friends at KONI, but
                                  I seem to remember that the guy at
                                  Classic Garage was the only vendor
                                  ordering the Tiger part numbers. I
                                  guess just call him and see if they
                                  are having more made.</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Mike<br clear=3D"non=
e">
                                  <br clear=3D"none">
                                  <br clear=3D"none">
                                  -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"no=
ne">
                                  From: Craig via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none">
                                  To: Arden Bedell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow
                                    noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sixty=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
                                  <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
                                  Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm<br clear=
=3D"none">
                                  Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-480039552636=
7973402yiv8566430403m_6809814893376715718yiv7160800527">
                              <div>
                                <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Looks
                                    like they are both &quot;Out of Stock&q=
uot;.=C2=A0
                                    <br clear=3D"none">
                                    Darn it=C2=A0 :-(</span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black">On
                                      5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell
                                      via Tigers wrote:</span></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:black">Classic
                                    Garage:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html" target=3D"_blank">https=
://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:black">Koni
                                    front shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:black">Koni
                                    rear shocks:</span></p>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener
                                        noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.html</a></span></p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black">On 5/20/23
                                      4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers
                                      wrote:</span></p>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt">
                                  <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black">Front: 8210
                                      1160. (6 may be a 0 can=E2=80=99t tel=
l for
                                      sure) </span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;color:black">Older Koni
                                        adjustable off the car</span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
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                                              2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig
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                                            <p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Does
                                                anyone have the part
                                                numbers for Koni&#39;s?=C2=
=A0
                                                Front and back?=C2=A0 I
                                                contacted Vivid Racing
                                                and they just sent me
                                                pages and pages to pick
                                                from.<br clear=3D"none">
                                                Would appreciate any
                                                help.<br clear=3D"none">
                                                Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">
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ze:12pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">OK, might
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                                                      2-cents worth.=C2=A0 =
I
                                                      put Konis on my
                                                      Tiger in about
                                                      &#39;68.=C2=A0 They&#=
39;re
                                                      still working
                                                      great after about
                                                      55 years.</span></p>
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                                                  <p><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">On Tue, May
                                                      16, 2023 at
                                                      2:55=E2=80=AFAM
                                                      twotigers--- via
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                                                  <p style=3D"margin-bottom=
:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Yu=
p,
                                                      Konis. Just
                                                      replaced my old
                                                      KYB gas shocks-
                                                      what a difference!<br=
 clear=3D"none">
                                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                                      -----Original
                                                      Message-----<br clear=
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                                                      From: Tigers &lt;<a r=
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                                                      On Behalf Of Dr.
                                                      T. Y. McDowell<br cle=
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                                                      Sent: Monday, May
                                                      15, 2023 3:40 PM<br c=
lear=3D"none">
                                                      To: Peter and
                                                      Bonnie MacDonald
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                                                      Subject: Re:
                                                      [Tigers] Shocks<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
                                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                                      Me too! Konis are
                                                      the way to go.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
                                                      <br clear=3D"none">
                                                      Tym McDowell<br clear=
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                                                      &gt; On 05/15/2023
                                                      3:13 PM Peter and
                                                      Bonnie MacDonald
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                                                      &gt; <br clear=3D"non=
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                                                      &gt;=C2=A0 <br clear=
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                                                      &gt; I have used
                                                      KONI=E2=80=99s for ma=
ny
                                                      years with good
                                                      performance. They
                                                      are adjustable and
                                                      they can also be
                                                      rebuilt.<br clear=3D"=
none">
                                                      &gt; <br clear=3D"non=
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                                                      &gt; Peter<br clear=
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I like my SPAX.  Externally adjustable, unlike the Koni's.
Gary
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> On 05/24/2023 9:00 PM PDT michael king via Tigers <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
> =20
> =20
> Is there a reason people aren't using SPAX ? They are adjustable,  have s=
hocks made for Alpines and Tigers and iirc were better value than the Koni.=
. they are not rebuildable... But they cost less than a Koni rebuild... And=
 you get new shocks ...
>=20
> On Thu, 25 May 2023, 9:05 am Allan Ballard via Tigers, <[email-masked]=
.net mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> > If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade the coil springs and pair th=
em with a softer shock.
> > =20
> > I drove my Tiger from Jenning=E2=80=99s Ohio shop home to Atlanta with =
stronger springs - and no front shock at all.
> > =20
> > -Allan Ballard
> > Series I v6 Alpine
> > Mk1a Tiger
> >=20
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >=20
> >=20
> > > On May 24, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked].=
net mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > > Anybody know what Dale's Restorations uses for shocks?  Probably not =
Konis but likely a well-researched choice.
> > > =20
> > > Will - 382001570
> > > [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > >=20
> > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36=E2=80=AFPM Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@a=
utox.team.net mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner looked into=
 having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code originality. He was=
 directed to a Koni service center. They wanted $250 just to service EACH s=
hock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint the shocks (apparently not included i=
n the rebuild price). That came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Ironically=
 the shocks could be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So, if you=
 are considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable you might want =
to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion thread: http://c=
orvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=3D1
> > > >=20
> > > > Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the Koni f=
ront set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They seemed to b=
e available for the motorcycle line but not the automotive line. When I con=
sider the above experiences and the reply from Rick I get the impression Ko=
ni is only interested in the exclusive customer that has no problem in payi=
ng the exclusive price.
> > > > > I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of CAT =
and asked her to put the word out.  Maybe they can generate some interest a=
s well...
> > > > > > Sounds like a good situation for an active Tiger club to think =
about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty serious, probabl=
y better to do as a group buy, I guess. Anyone want to quantify the current=
 demand? ;)=20
> > > > > > From: Craig via Tigers <[email-masked]> mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net
> > > > > > To: michael king <[email-masked]> mailto:michael.s.ki=
[email-masked]; [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > > > > > Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <[email-masked]> mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.=20
> > > > > > Sorry, we are out and have no plans to order a new production r=
un. We need to order a minimum of 50 of each shock for Koni to make them. U=
nless a club or other organization wants to commit -  with deposits, to  mo=
re than half of the run, this is not happening. Used to be we received lots=
 of queries and had deposits for a fair number before we ordered, even with=
 that, it took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You are only the secon=
d inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020. Does not look like there is=
 enough demand any longer.
> > > > > >  http://classicgarage.com
> > > > > > On Mon, 22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, <[email-masked]=
am.net mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Rick has a slew of Koni=E2=80=99s for Tigers- when I bought=
 mine last year he had dozens left- give him a call!
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > From: Tigers <[email-masked]> mailto:tigers-=
[email-masked] On Behalf Of Michael Wood via Tigers
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 9:25 AM
> > > > > > > > To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]; six=
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > > > > > > > I can check with my friends at KONI, but I seem to remember=
 that the guy at Classic Garage was the only vendor ordering the Tiger part=
 numbers. I guess just call him and see if they are having more made.
> > > > > > > > From: Craig via Tigers <[email-masked] mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > > > To: Arden Bedell <[email-masked] mailto:sixtysix=
[email-masked]>; [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > > > > > > > Looks like they are both "Out of Stock".=20
> > > > > > > > Darn it  :-(
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Front: 8210 1160. (6 may be a 0 can=E2=80=99t tell for su=
re)
> > > > > > > > > -=20
> > > > > > > > > > On May 19, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig via Tigers <tigers@a=
utox.team.net> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have the part numbers for Koni's?  Front an=
d back?  I contacted Vivid Racing and they just sent me pages and pages to =
pick from.
> > > > > > > > > > > OK, might as well add my 2-cents worth.  I put Konis =
on my Tiger in about '68.  They're still working great after about 55 years=
.
> > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > Will - 382001570
> > > > > > > > > > > [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > > > > > > > > > >=20
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> > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 2:55=E2=80=AFAM twotigers--- =
via Tigers <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, Konis. Just replaced my old KYB gas shocks- wh=
at a difference!
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Tigers <[email-masked] mailto:=
[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Dr. T. Y. McDowell
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald <[email-masked]=
 mailto:[email-masked]>; [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/15/2023 3:13 PM Peter and Bonnie MacDonald =
<[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used KONI=E2=80=99s for many years with go=
od performance. They are adjustable and they can also be rebuilt.
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   <div>
    On 05/24/2023 9:00 PM PDT michael king via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt; wrote:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div dir=3D"auto">
    Is there a reason people aren't using SPAX ? They are adjustable,&nbsp;=
 have shocks made for Alpines and Tigers and iirc were better value than th=
e Koni.. they are not rebuildable... But they cost less than a Koni rebuild=
... And you get new shocks ...
   </div>=20
   <br>=20
   <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
     On Thu, 25 May 2023, 9:05 am Allan Ballard via Tigers, &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
    </div>=20
    <blockquote>=20
     <div dir=3D"auto">
      If Konis are unavailable one could upgrade the coil springs and pair =
them with a softer shock.=20
      <div>
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div>
       I drove my Tiger from Jenning=E2=80=99s Ohio shop home to Atlanta wi=
th stronger springs - and no front shock at all.
      </div>=20
      <div>
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
      <div>
       -Allan Ballard
      </div>=20
      <div>
       Series I v6 Alpine
      </div>=20
      <div>
       Mk1a Tiger
       <br>
       <br>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        Sent from my iPhone
       </div>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <br>=20
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
         On May 24, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
         <br>
         <br>
        </blockquote>=20
       </div>=20
       <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
        <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
         <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
          <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size: small;">
           Anybody know what Dale's Restorations uses for shocks?&nbsp; Pro=
bably not Konis but likely a well-researched choice.
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size: small;">
           &nbsp;
          </div>=20
          <div>=20
           <div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">=20
            <div dir=3D"ltr">
             Will - 382001570=20
             <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>
            </div>=20
           </div>=20
          </div>=20
         </div>=20
         <br>=20
         <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
          <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
           On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:36=E2=80=AFPM Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
          </div>=20
          <blockquote>=20
           <div>=20
            <p>Just an FYI from my Corvair side of life; a Yenko owner look=
ed into having his Koni's rebuilt to retain the 1966 date code originality.=
 He was directed to a Koni service center. They wanted $250 just to service=
 EACH shock, $980 in parts and $400 to paint the shocks (apparently not inc=
luded in the rebuild price). That came to $2,380 less tax and shipping. Iro=
nically the shocks could be purchased new for $623 for the set of four. So,=
 if you are considering buying Koni's because they are rebuildable you migh=
t want to reconsider that. Here is a link to the noted discussion thread: <=
a href=3D"http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1168960,page=3D1" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,1=
168960,page=3D1</a></p>=20
            <p>Personally I looked into purchasing the parts to rebuild the=
 Koni front set I have and I could not find ANY source for parts. They seem=
ed to be available for the motorcycle line but not the automotive line. Whe=
n I consider the above experiences and the reply from Rick I get the impres=
sion Koni is only interested in the exclusive customer that has no problem =
in paying the exclusive price.</p>=20
            <div>
             &nbsp;
            </div>=20
            <div>
             On 5/23/2023 9:23 PM, Craig via Tigers wrote:
            </div>=20
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">
             I forwarded the Classic Garage email to the parts manager of C=
AT and asked her to put the word out.&nbsp; Maybe they can generate some in=
terest as well...
             <br>Craig
             <br>
             <br>=20
             <div>
              On 5/23/2023 6:27 PM, Michael Wood via Tigers wrote:
             </div>=20
             <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
              <div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif; color: black;">=20
               <div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-=
size: 10pt; color: black;">
                Sounds like a good situation for an active Tiger club to th=
ink about taking on, maybe? But, the cap ex up front is pretty serious, pro=
bably better to do as a group buy, I guess. Anyone want to quantify the cur=
rent demand? ;)&nbsp;
               </div>=20
               <div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-=
size: 10pt; color: black;">
                &nbsp;
               </div>=20
               <div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-=
size: 10pt; color: black;">
                Mike
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>-----Original Message-----
                <br>From: Craig via Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</=
a>
                <br>To: michael king <a href=3D"mailto:michael.s.king@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noope=
ner">[email-masked]</a>
                <br>Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">&lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;</a>
                <br>Sent: Tue, May 23, 2023 3:41 pm
                <br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks
                <br>
                <br>
               </div>=20
               <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv856=
6430403">=20
                <div>
                 Rick only had 2 front shocks at Sunbeam Specialties.&nbsp;=
=20
                 <br clear=3D"none">Classic Garage sent me this response:
                 <br clear=3D"none">
                 <br clear=3D"none">=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  Sorry, we are out and have no plans to order a new produc=
tion run. We need to order a minimum of 50 of each shock for Koni to make t=
hem. Unless a club or other organization wants to commit -&nbsp; with depos=
its, to&nbsp; more than half of the run, this is not happening. Used to be =
we received lots of queries and had deposits for a fair number before we or=
dered, even with that, it took nearly 5 years to sell 25 cars worth. You ar=
e only the second inquiry we have had since we ran out in 2020. Does not lo=
ok like there is enough demand any longer.
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  Good luck,
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  Ann
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  customer service
                 </div>=20
                 <div>
                  &nbsp;
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  <a href=3D"http://classicgarage.com" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noopener">classicgarage.com</a>
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  997 Route 22
                 </div>=20
                 <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  Brewster, NY 10509
                 </div> 845-940-1900
                 <br clear=3D"none">
                 <br clear=3D"none">Hopefully someone will want to order mo=
re!
                 <br clear=3D"none">
                 <br clear=3D"none">
                 <br clear=3D"none">=20
                 <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv8=
566430403yqt98439">=20
                  <div>
                   On 5/21/2023 7:27 PM, michael king wrote:
                  </div>=20
                  <blockquote type=3D"cite"></blockquote>=20
                 </div>=20
                </div>=20
                <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973402yiv85=
66430403yqt31587">=20
                 <div>=20
                  <div>
                   Rick=3D sunbeam specialties =F0=9F=98=89
                  </div>=20
                  <br clear=3D"none">=20
                  <div>=20
                   <div dir=3D"ltr">
                    On Mon, 22 May 2023, 5:09 am Craig via Tigers, &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" sha=
pe=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                   </div>=20
                   <blockquote>=20
                    <div>
                     I'm sorry.&nbsp; I'm new here.&nbsp; Could you give me=
 Rick's number?
                     <br clear=3D"none">
                     <br clear=3D"none">=20
                     <div>
                      On 5/21/2023 11:50 AM, twotigers--- via Tigers wrote:
                     </div>=20
                     <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
                      <div>=20
                       <p>Rick has a slew of Koni=E2=80=99s for Tigers- whe=
n I bought mine last year he had dozens left- give him a call!</p>=20
                       <p>&nbsp;</p>=20
                       <div style=3D"border-right: none; border-bottom: non=
e; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid #e1e1e1; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"=
                        <p><strong>From:</strong> Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"=
rect">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <strong>On Behalf Of </stro=
ng>Michael Wood via Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday,=
 May 21, 2023 9:25 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect=
">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]<=
/a><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Shocks</p>=20
                       </div>=20
                       <p>&nbsp;</p>=20
                       <div>=20
                        <div>=20
                         <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: sa=
ns-serif; color: black;">I can check with my friends at KONI, but I seem to=
 remember that the guy at Classic Garage was the only vendor ordering the T=
iger part numbers. I guess just call him and see if they are having more ma=
de.</span></p>=20
                        </div>=20
                        <div>=20
                         <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Mike<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br cle=
ar=3D"none">From: Craig via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Arden Bedell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sixtysix=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">sixtys=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a><br c=
lear=3D"none">Sent: Sat, May 20, 2023 8:19 pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re=
: [Tigers] Shocks</span></p>=20
                        </div>=20
                        <div id=3D"m_6419791973959825969m_-4800395526367973=
402yiv8566430403m_6809814893376715718yiv7160800527">=20
                         <div>=20
                          <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Looks like they ar=
e both "Out of Stock".&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">Darn it&nbsp; :-(</span></p=
                          <div>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;">On 5/20/2023 6:19 PM, Arden Bedell via Tigers wr=
ote:</span></p>=20
                          </div>=20
                         </div>=20
                         <div>=20
                          <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: s=
ans-serif; color: black;">Classic Garage:</span></p>=20
                          <blockquote>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sunbeam3.ht=
ml" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">https://classicgarage=
.com/sunbeam3.html</a></span></p>=20
                          </blockquote>=20
                          <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: s=
ans-serif; color: black;">Koni front shocks:</span></p>=20
                          <blockquote>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sualtifrsh.=
html" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">https://classicgara=
ge.com/sualtifrsh.html</a></span></p>=20
                          </blockquote>=20
                          <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: s=
ans-serif; color: black;">Koni rear shocks:</span></p>=20
                          <blockquote>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;"><a href=3D"https://classicgarage.com/sualtiresh.=
html" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">https://classicgara=
ge.com/sualtiresh.html</a></span></p>=20
                          </blockquote>=20
                          <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: s=
ans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                          <div>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;">On 5/20/23 4:40 PM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wro=
te:</span></p>=20
                          </div>=20
                          <blockquote>=20
                           <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
sans-serif; color: black;">Front: 8210 1160. (6 may be a 0 can=E2=80=99t te=
ll for sure) </span></p>=20
                           <div>=20
                            <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
 sans-serif; color: black;">Older Koni adjustable off the car</span></p>=20
                           </div>=20
                           <div>=20
                            <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
 sans-serif; color: black;">-&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                           </div>=20
                           <div>=20
                            <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
 sans-serif; color: black;">Rear shocks are still on the car</span></p>=20
                           </div>=20
                           <div>=20
                            <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family:=
 sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                            <div>=20
                             <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family=
: sans-serif; color: black;"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span><=
/p>=20
                             <blockquote>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">On May 19, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Craig via Tigers=
 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener=
" shape=3D"rect">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Does anyone ha=
ve the part numbers for Koni's?&nbsp; Front and back?&nbsp; I contacted Viv=
id Racing and they just sent me pages and pages to pick from.<br clear=3D"n=
one">Would appreciate any help.<br clear=3D"none">Thanks,<br clear=3D"none"=
>Craig</span></p>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">On 5/16/2023 7:23 AM, Will Seay via Tigers wr=
ote:</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <blockquote>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">OK, might as well add my 2-cents worth.&nbsp;=
 I put Konis on my Tiger in about '68.&nbsp; They're still working great af=
ter about 55 years.</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">Will - 382001570 <br clear=3D"none"><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=
=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a></span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              </div>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <div>=20
                              <p><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: sans-serif; color: black;">On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 2:55=E2=80=AFAM twoti=
gers--- via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
</span></p>=20
                              </div>=20
                              <blockquote>=20
                              <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; color: black;">Yup, Konis. Ju=
st replaced my old KYB gas shocks- what a difference!<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Tigers &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behal=
f Of Dr. T. Y. McDowell<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 3:40 P=
M<br clear=3D"none">To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ma=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">macdon=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a><br clear=
=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shocks<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>Me too! Konis are the way to go.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Tym =
McDowell<br clear=3D"none">&gt; On 05/15/2023 3:13 PM Peter and Bonnie MacD=
onald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oopener" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I have used KO=
NI=E2=80=99s for many years with good performance. They are adjustable and =
they can also be rebuilt.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Pe=
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