Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shocks

From: Joe Brown <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2023 14:12:15 -0500

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I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.  My car started to bottom
out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my
leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started looking
for shocks.  I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a
factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So
I decided to go with KYB.  Looking through the different forums I saw
different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  KG5562 for the
rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.  On
the front shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old
shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super easy and they also fit really
well.  The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million
times better.

Thanks for everybody's input.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer <[email-masked]=
> wrote:

> The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for the Sunbeam
> Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They appear to =
be
> single adjustable so rebound and compression change together.
>
>
>
> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a set of=
 Koni
> shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite as well, b=
ut the
> ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.  Soften up, drive to an
> autocross or cross country, get to the event, turn them up and compete,
> post event set down for the street and drive home.  Many competition cars
> weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  A great ability to accommodate=
 street
> comfort and autocross performance.  Or to adjust to your individual
> preferences.  My set are still on the car, which exited regular competiti=
on
> in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championship=
s in 1974
> and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you need
> shocks.  They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if
> you were interested.
>
>
>
> Bud Bohrer
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.=C2=A0 My ca=
r started to bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shoc=
ks and my leaf=C2=A0springs were sagging.=C2=A0 I got the springs re-arched=
 and started looking for shocks.<font face=3D"times new roman, serif">=C2=
=A0</font><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"> I have a car show coming up thi=
s weekend, so time was a factor.=C2=A0 I looked at Koni and Spax but the le=
ad times were way too long. So I decided to go with KYB.=C2=A0 Looking thro=
ugh the different forums I saw different part numbers and I finally settled=
 on part number=C2=A0 KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The r=
ear shocks were a perfect fit.=C2=A0 On the front shocks I needed to press =
out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them into the KYB=
s.=C2=A0 Super easy and they also fit really well.=C2=A0 The whole car now =
sits a little higher and the handling is a million times better.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</font><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font=
 face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Thanks for everybody&#39;s input.</font></div><=
div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"ar=
ial, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">=
Joe Brown=C2=A0</font></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lione=
l Bohrer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv class=3D"msg6296370707958027354"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-w=
rap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_6296370707958027354WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for =
the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.=C2=A0 =
They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and compression change toget=
her.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Replaced a =
set of Koni shocks.=C2=A0 Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics q=
uite as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.=C2=A0=
 Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, turn =
them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive home.=C2=
=A0 Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.=C2=A0 A=
 great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross performance.=C2=
=A0 Or to adjust to your individual preferences.=C2=A0 My set are still on =
the car, which exited regular competition in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my =
two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 and 1975 were with the Sp=
ax shocks.=C2=A0 Would be worth exploring if you need shocks.=C2=A0 They al=
so might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if you were interest=
ed.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Bud Bohrer</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"=
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From: Jay Laifman <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 08:38:54 -0700

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Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to lower my
rear springs on the Alpine a little.

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started looki=
ng
> factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. =
So
> different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  KG5562 for t=
he
> the front shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the ol=
d
> shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super easy and they also fit reall=
y
> well.  The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a milli=
on
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer <[email-masked]=
et>
>> Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They appear to=
 be
>> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a set o=
f Koni
>> shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite as well, =
but the
>> post event set down for the street and drive home.  Many competition car=
s
>> weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  A great ability to accommodat=
e street
>> preferences.  My set are still on the car, which exited regular competit=
ion
>> in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championshi=
ps in 1974
>> and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you nee=
d
>> shocks.  They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks i=
f
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?=C2=
=A0 I&#39;d like to lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Ma=
y 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.=C2=A0 My ca=
r started to bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shoc=
ks and my leaf=C2=A0springs were sagging.=C2=A0 I got the springs re-arched=
 and started looking for shocks.<font face=3D"times new roman, serif">=C2=
=A0</font><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"> I have a car show coming up thi=
s weekend, so time was a factor.=C2=A0 I looked at Koni and Spax but the le=
ad times were way too long. So I decided to go with KYB.=C2=A0 Looking thro=
ugh the different forums I saw different part numbers and I finally settled=
 on part number=C2=A0 KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The r=
ear shocks were a perfect fit.=C2=A0 On the front shocks I needed to press =
out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them into the KYB=
s.=C2=A0 Super easy and they also fit really well.=C2=A0 The whole car now =
sits a little higher and the handling is a million times better.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</font><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font=
 face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Thanks for everybody&#39;s input.</font></div><=
div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"ar=
ial, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">=
Joe Brown=C2=A0</font></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lione=
l Bohrer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">lcbo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:s=
olid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D=
"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section=
 shows a listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock f=
ront and rear.=C2=A0 They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and com=
pression change together.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=
=99s.=C2=A0 Replaced a set of Koni shocks.=C2=A0 Didn=E2=80=99t like the da=
mping characteristics quite as well, but the ability to adjust on the car w=
as revolutionary.=C2=A0 Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, =
get to the event, turn them up and compete, post event set down for the str=
eet and drive home.=C2=A0 Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered i=
n those years.=C2=A0 A great ability to accommodate street comfort and auto=
cross performance.=C2=A0 Or to adjust to your individual preferences.=C2=A0=
 My set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in the late =
90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 and =
1975 were with the Spax shocks.=C2=A0 Would be worth exploring if you need =
shocks.=C2=A0 They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks=
 if you were interested.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud Bohrer</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
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From: Joe Brown <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 11:36:46 -0500

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I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San
Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).  They mostly deal
with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.  I told them I
needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically separated
the leaves and put them in a big press.  My old springs are liable to start
sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.  I asked the guy at
Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do that anymore.  He said
that back in the days before they had the more modern giant presses they
used to have a forge and they would heat up the metal and then beat it into
shape with sledge hammers.

The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the suppliers
in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would like to know if
anybody knows of a US supplier.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <[email-masked]=

> Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to lower
> my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>> leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started look=
ing
>> factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long.=
 So
>> different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  KG5562 for =
the
>> the front shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the o=
ld
>> shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super easy and they also fit real=
ly
>> well.  The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a mill=
ion
>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer <lcbohrer@comcast.=
net>
>>> Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They appear t=
o be
>>> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a set =
of Koni
>>> shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite as well,=
 but the
>>> post event set down for the street and drive home.  Many competition ca=
rs
>>> weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  A great ability to accommoda=
te street
>>> preferences.  My set are still on the car, which exited regular competi=
tion
>>> in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championsh=
ips in 1974
>>> and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you ne=
ed
>>> shocks.  They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks =
if
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I googled &quot;leaf spring re-arching&quot; and found an =
old-school place in San Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from m=
e).=C2=A0 They mostly deal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf s=
pring.=C2=A0 I told them I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5&quo=
t; and they basically separated the leaves and put them in a big press.=C2=
=A0 My old springs are liable to start sagging again in a few years because=
 of the old metal.=C2=A0 I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the spri=
ngs and they don&#39;t do that anymore.=C2=A0 He said that back in the days=
 before they had the more modern giant presses they used to have a forge an=
d they would heat up the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge hamm=
ers.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>The only source I&#39;ve found for new =
leaf springs are some of the suppliers in the UK.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tom Hall does=
n&#39;t supply them anymore.=C2=A0 I would like to know if anybody knows of=
 a US supplier.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?=C2=A0 I&#39;d like=
 to lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.</div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:=
03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think I started this th=
read a few weeks ago.=C2=A0 My car started to bottom out and I finally figu=
red out that I had two blown shocks and my leaf=C2=A0springs were sagging.=
=C2=A0 I got the springs re-arched and started looking for shocks.<font fac=
e=3D"times new roman, serif">=C2=A0</font><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">=
 I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a factor.=C2=A0 I lo=
oked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So I decided to=
 go with KYB.=C2=A0 Looking through the different forums I saw different pa=
rt numbers and I finally settled on part number=C2=A0 KG5562 for the rears =
and KG4616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.=C2=A0 On the=
 front shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old sho=
cks and insert them into the KYBs.=C2=A0 Super easy and they also fit reall=
y well.=C2=A0 The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a =
million times better.=C2=A0=C2=A0</font><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-seri=
f"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Thanks for everyb=
ody&#39;s input.</font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></fo=
nt></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><fo=
nt face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Joe Brown=C2=A0</font></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 25, 2=
023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lcbohrer@comcast=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listi=
ng for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.=
=C2=A0 They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and compression chang=
e together.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Repl=
aced a set of Koni shocks.=C2=A0 Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteri=
stics quite as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary=
.=C2=A0 Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event=
, turn them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive ho=
me.=C2=A0 Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.=
=C2=A0 A great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross performa=
nce.=C2=A0 Or to adjust to your individual preferences.=C2=A0 My set are st=
ill on the car, which exited regular competition in the late 90=E2=80=99s, =
but my two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 and 1975 were with=
 the Spax shocks.=C2=A0 Would be worth exploring if you need shocks.=C2=A0 =
They also might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if you were i=
nterested.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
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Back in the 90=E2=80=99s I got mine from Dale A, competition rate of =
about 443ppi

> On May 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Joe Brown <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in =
San Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).  They mostly =
deal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.  I told them =
I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically =
separated the leaves and put them in a big press.  My old springs are =
liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.  =
I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do =
that anymore.  He said that back in the days before they had the more =
modern giant presses they used to have a forge and they would heat up =
the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge hammers. =20
>=20
> The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the =
suppliers in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would =
like to know if anybody knows of a US supplier.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>=20
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman =
>> Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to =
lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
>>=20
>> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown =
>>> I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.  My car started to =
bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my =
leaf springs were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started =
looking for shocks.  I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time =
was a factor.  I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too =
long. So I decided to go with KYB.  Looking through the different forums =
I saw different part numbers and I finally settled on part number  =
KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a =
perfect fit.  On the front shocks I needed to press out the steel =
bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them into the KYBs.  Super =
easy and they also fit really well.  The whole car now sits a little =
higher and the handling is a million times better. =20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Joe Brown=20
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer =
>>>> The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for the =
Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They =
appear to be single adjustable so rebound and compression change =
together.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a =
set of Koni shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics =
quite as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.  =
Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, =
turn them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive =
home.  Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  =
A great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross performance. =
 Or to adjust to your individual preferences.  My set are still on the =
car, which exited regular competition in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my =
two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 and 1975 were with the =
Spax shocks.  Would be worth exploring if you need shocks.  They also =
might custom make a set of double adjustable shocks if you were =
interested.
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Bud Bohrer
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Back in the =
90=E2=80=99s I got mine from Dale A, competition rate of about =
443ppi<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On May 30, 2023, at =
12:36 PM, Joe Brown &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I googled =
"leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San Antonio =
(Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).&nbsp; They mostly deal =
with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.&nbsp; I told them =
I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically =
separated the leaves and put them in a big press.&nbsp; My old springs =
are liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old =
metal.&nbsp; I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and =
they don't do that anymore.&nbsp; He said that back in the days before =
they had the more modern giant presses they used to have a forge and =
they would heat up the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge =
hammers.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>The only source I've found for =
new leaf springs are some of the suppliers in the UK.&nbsp; &nbsp;Tom =
Hall doesn't supply them anymore.&nbsp; I would like to know if anybody =
knows of a US supplier.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe =
Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay =
Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Where and how did =
you get the rear springs de-arched?&nbsp; I'd like to lower my rear =
springs on the Alpine a little.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM =
Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think I started =
this thread a few weeks ago.&nbsp; My car started to bottom out and I =
finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my leaf&nbsp;springs =
were sagging.&nbsp; I got the springs re-arched and started looking for =
shocks.<font face=3D"times new roman, serif">&nbsp;</font><font =
face=3D"arial, sans-serif"> I have a car show coming up this weekend, so =
time was a factor.&nbsp; I looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times =
were way too long. So I decided to go with KYB.&nbsp; Looking through =
the different forums I saw different part numbers and I finally settled =
on part number&nbsp; KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 for the fronts. The =
rear shocks were a perfect fit.&nbsp; On the front shocks I needed to =
press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and insert them =
into the KYBs.&nbsp; Super easy and they also fit really well.&nbsp; The =
whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million times =
better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Thanks for everybody's input.</font></div><div><font =
face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, =
sans-serif">Joe Brown&nbsp;</font></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May =
25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a =
listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front =
and rear.&nbsp; They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and =
compression change together.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got =
Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; Replaced a set of =
Koni shocks.&nbsp; Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite =
as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.&nbsp; =
Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, =
turn them up and compete, post event set down for the street and drive =
home.&nbsp; Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those =
years.&nbsp; A great ability to accommodate street comfort and autocross =
performance.&nbsp; Or to adjust to your individual preferences.&nbsp; My =
set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in the late =
90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in 1974 =
and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.&nbsp; Would be worth exploring if =
you need shocks.&nbsp; They also might custom make a set of double =
adjustable shocks if you were interested.</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud =
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I live in western Massachusetts.  A couple of years ago I had Ferrara Sprin=
g, Co. in Springfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise the rear=
 end approximately two (2) inches.  They charged me a whopping $72.00 for w=
hat is now a Tiger looking like it's ready to pounce!=20
=20
Tym McDowell

> On 05/30/2023 12:36 PM EDT Joe Brown <[email-masked]> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San A=
ntonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).  They mostly deal wit=
h heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.  I told them I needed t=
o lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically separated the leav=
es and put them in a big press.  My old springs are liable to start sagging=
 again in a few years because of the old metal.  I asked the guy at Ace abo=
ut re-tempering the springs and they don't do that anymore.  He said that b=
ack in the days before they had the more modern giant presses they used to =
have a forge and they would heat up the metal and then beat it into shape w=
ith sledge hammers. =20
> =20
> The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the suppliers=
 in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would like to know i=
f anybody knows of a US supplier.
> =20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>=20
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <[email-masked]=
om mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> > Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?  I'd like to lowe=
r my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
> >=20
> > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <[email-masked]=
m mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> >=20
> > > I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.  My car started to bot=
tom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my leaf s=
prings were sagging.  I got the springs re-arched and started looking for s=
hocks.  I have a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a factor.  I =
looked at Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So I decided =
to go with KYB.  Looking through the different forums I saw different part =
numbers and I finally settled on part number  KG5562 for the rears and KG46=
16 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.  On the front shocks=
 I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and inser=
t them into the KYBs.  Super easy and they also fit really well.  The whole=
 car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million times better. =
=20
> > > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer <lcbohrer@comca=
st.net mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > The Spax catalog in the classic section shows a listing for the Sun=
beam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock front and rear.  They appear =
to be single adjustable so rebound and compression change together.
> > > > I got Spax shocks for my car back in the 60=E2=80=99s.  Replaced a =
set of Koni shocks.  Didn=E2=80=99t like the damping characteristics quite =
as well, but the ability to adjust on the car was revolutionary.  Soften up=
, drive to an autocross or cross country, get to the event, turn them up an=
d compete, post event set down for the street and drive home.  Many competi=
tion cars weren=E2=80=99t trailered in those years.  A great ability to acc=
ommodate street comfort and autocross performance.  Or to adjust to your in=
dividual preferences.  My set are still on the car, which exited regular co=
mpetition in the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national cham=
pionships in 1974 and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.  Would be worth explo=
ring if you need shocks.  They also might custom make a set of double adjus=
table shocks if you were interested.
> > > >=20
> > > > =20
> > > >=20
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rn Massachusetts.&nbsp; A couple of years ago I had Ferrara Spring, Co. in =
Springfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise the rear end appro=
ximately two (2) inches.&nbsp; They charged me a whopping $72.00 for what i=
s now a Tiger looking like it's ready to pounce!&nbsp;</span>
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    I googled "leaf spring re-arching" and found an old-school place in San=
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eal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.&nbsp; I told the=
m I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically separa=
ted the leaves and put them in a big press.&nbsp; My old springs are liable=
 to start sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.&nbsp; I as=
ked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do that an=
ymore.&nbsp; He said that back in the days before they had the more modern =
giant presses they used to have a forge and they would heat up the metal an=
d then beat it into shape with sledge hammers.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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     &nbsp;
    </div>=20
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     The only source I've found for new leaf springs are some of the suppli=
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uld like to know if anybody knows of a US supplier.
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ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">jay.laifman@=
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      Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?&nbsp; I'd like =
to lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
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       On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">jbbrown1980@g=
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        I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.&nbsp; My car started=
 to bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my=
 leaf&nbsp;springs were sagging.&nbsp; I got the springs re-arched and star=
ted looking for shocks.<span style=3D"font-family: times new roman, serif;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;"> I have a car=
 show coming up this weekend, so time was a factor.&nbsp; I looked at Koni =
and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So I decided to go with KYB.=
&nbsp; Looking through the different forums I saw different part numbers an=
d I finally settled on part number&nbsp; KG5562 for the rears and KG4616 fo=
r the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.&nbsp; On the front shocks=
 I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and inser=
t them into the KYBs.&nbsp; Super easy and they also fit really well.&nbsp;=
 The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million times=
 better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Thanks for everybo=
dy's input.</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Thanks,</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Joe Brown&nbsp;</s=
pan>
        </div>=20
       </div>=20
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         On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">lcbohre=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
        </div>=20
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         <div>=20
          <div>=20
           <div>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section =
shows a listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock fr=
ont and rear.&nbsp; They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and comp=
ression change together.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the=
 60=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; Replaced a set of Koni shocks.&nbsp; Didn=E2=80=99t li=
ke the damping characteristics quite as well, but the ability to adjust on =
the car was revolutionary.&nbsp; Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross =
country, get to the event, turn them up and compete, post event set down fo=
r the street and drive home.&nbsp; Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t tr=
ailered in those years.&nbsp; A great ability to accommodate street comfort=
 and autocross performance.&nbsp; Or to adjust to your individual preferenc=
es.&nbsp; My set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in =
the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in =
1974 and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.&nbsp; Would be worth exploring if =
you need shocks.&nbsp; They also might custom make a set of double adjustab=
le shocks if you were interested.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud Bohrer</p>=20
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You got a good deal.  I had to pay $218.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:29=E2=80=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

> I live in western Massachusetts.  A couple of years ago I had Ferrara
> Spring, Co. in Springfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise t=
he
> rear end approximately two (2) inches.  They charged me a whopping $72.00
> for what is now a Tiger looking like it's ready to pounce!
>
> Tym McDowell
>
> needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5" and they basically separate=
d
> the leaves and put them in a big press.  My old springs are liable to sta=
rt
> sagging again in a few years because of the old metal.  I asked the guy a=
t
> Ace about re-tempering the springs and they don't do that anymore.  He sa=
id
> used to have a forge and they would heat up the metal and then beat it in=
to
> in the UK.   Tom Hall doesn't supply them anymore.  I would like to know =
if
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman <[email-masked]=
om>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You got a good deal.=C2=A0 I had to pay $218.<div><br></di=
v><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:29=E2=80=
=AFPM Dr. T. Y. McDowell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tym2@comca=
st.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><u></u>

 =20
  =20
=20
 <div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I live in western M=
assachusetts.=C2=A0 A couple of years ago I had Ferrara Spring, Co. in Spri=
ngfield, MA re-arch the springs for my Mk1A to raise the rear end approxima=
tely two (2) inches.=C2=A0 They charged me a whopping $72.00 for what is no=
w a Tiger looking like it&#39;s ready to pounce!=C2=A0</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Tym McDowell</span>
  </div>=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
   <div>
    On 05/30/2023 12:36 PM EDT Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div>
    =C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    I googled &quot;leaf spring re-arching&quot; and found an old-school pl=
ace in San Antonio (Ace Spring Service, about 1.5 hours from me).=C2=A0 The=
y mostly deal with heavy trucks but they can handle any leaf spring.=C2=A0 =
I told them I needed to lift the back of the car about 1.5&quot; and they b=
asically separated the leaves and put them in a big press.=C2=A0 My old spr=
ings are liable to start sagging again in a few years because of the old me=
tal.=C2=A0 I asked the guy at Ace about re-tempering the springs and they d=
on&#39;t do that anymore.=C2=A0 He said that back in the days before they h=
ad the more modern giant presses they used to have a forge and they would h=
eat up the metal and then beat it into shape with sledge hammers.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=20
    <div>
     =C2=A0
    </div>=20
    <div>
     The only source I&#39;ve found for new leaf springs are some of the su=
ppliers in the UK.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tom Hall doesn&#39;t supply them anymore.=C2=
=A0 I would like to know if anybody knows of a US supplier.
    </div>=20
    <div>
     =C2=A0
    </div>=20
    <div>
     Thanks,
    </div>=20
    <div>
     Joe Brown
    </div>=20
   </div>=20
   <br>=20
   <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
     On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
    </div>=20
    <blockquote>=20
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Where and how did you get the rear springs de-arched?=C2=A0 I&#39;d l=
ike to lower my rear springs on the Alpine a little.
     </div>=20
     <br>=20
     <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
      <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
       On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
      </div>=20
      <blockquote>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        I think I started this thread a few weeks ago.=C2=A0 My car started=
 to bottom out and I finally figured out that I had two blown shocks and my=
 leaf=C2=A0springs were sagging.=C2=A0 I got the springs re-arched and star=
ted looking for shocks.<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quo=
t;,serif">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"> I have=
 a car show coming up this weekend, so time was a factor.=C2=A0 I looked at=
 Koni and Spax but the lead times were way too long. So I decided to go wit=
h KYB.=C2=A0 Looking through the different forums I saw different part numb=
ers and I finally settled on part number=C2=A0 KG5562 for the rears and KG4=
616 for the fronts. The rear shocks were a perfect fit.=C2=A0 On the front =
shocks I needed to press out the steel bushing spacer on the old shocks and=
 insert them into the KYBs.=C2=A0 Super easy and they also fit really well.=
=C2=A0 The whole car now sits a little higher and the handling is a million=
 times better.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks for everybody&=
#39;s input.</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</span>
        </div>=20
        <div>
         <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Joe Brown=C2=A0</span=
        </div>=20
       </div>=20
       <br>=20
       <div class=3D"gmail_quote">=20
        <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
         On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:11=E2=80=AFPM Lionel Bohrer &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">lcbohre=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
        </div>=20
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         <div>=20
          <div>=20
           <div>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Spax catalog in the classic section =
shows a listing for the Sunbeam Tiger 64-68, in the $150 range per shock fr=
ont and rear.=C2=A0 They appear to be single adjustable so rebound and comp=
ression change together.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I got Spax shocks for my car back in the=
 60=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Replaced a set of Koni shocks.=C2=A0 Didn=E2=80=99t li=
ke the damping characteristics quite as well, but the ability to adjust on =
the car was revolutionary.=C2=A0 Soften up, drive to an autocross or cross =
country, get to the event, turn them up and compete, post event set down fo=
r the street and drive home.=C2=A0 Many competition cars weren=E2=80=99t tr=
ailered in those years.=C2=A0 A great ability to accommodate street comfort=
 and autocross performance.=C2=A0 Or to adjust to your individual preferenc=
es.=C2=A0 My set are still on the car, which exited regular competition in =
the late 90=E2=80=99s, but my two SCCA autocross national championships in =
1974 and 1975 were with the Spax shocks.=C2=A0 Would be worth exploring if =
you need shocks.=C2=A0 They also might custom make a set of double adjustab=
le shocks if you were interested.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bud Bohrer</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsof=
t.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noopener" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> =
for Windows</p>=20
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=20
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