Subject: Re: [Tigers] 15" wheels?

From: Chip Broadbooks via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 12:27:39 -0500

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I have 15" Mags on mine. It took a little while to get the offsets dialed
in. My fenders are stock. There is no rubbing going on.

I don't know if that helps...

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 12:13 PM Jay via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:

> As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and h=
arder to come
> by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for my Alpine =
with wire
> wheels is absolutely no longer available except from Coker at $250 a tire
> or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.  Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tir=
es
> for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.
>
> (1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?
> (2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a litt=
le bit.
> (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selec=
tion a
> lot.
>
> The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.  So those looks gre=
at.  But
> I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look silly.  Anyone=
 have pictures of
> Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicate what tires are on them?  I know=
 it=E2=80=99s a
> totally different look with a mag wheel.  But I want to get a sense of ho=
w
> low profile the tires would be.  I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall d=
iameter at
> 23-24=E2=80=9D.
>
>
>
> In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine
> one.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all around, except =
in
> the length.  So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off (for 6
> threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4
> rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.  There are a number of Alpine
> owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.  I=E2=80=
=99m not
> confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I have 15&quot; Mags on mine. It took a little while to g=
et the offsets dialed in. My fenders are stock. There is no rubbing going o=
n.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t know if that he=
lps...</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 12:13 PM Jay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tir=
es are getting harder and harder to come by.=C2=A0 In fact, the specific 13=
=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely =
no longer available except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $=
320 a tire.=C2=A0 Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=
=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?=C2=A0 <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little=
 bit.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selecti=
on a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.=C2=A0 So those looks =
great.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look=
 silly.=C2=A0 Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indi=
cate what tires are on them?=C2=A0 I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different =
look with a mag wheel.=C2=A0 But I want to get a sense of how low profile t=
he tires would be.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at=
 23-24=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.=
=C2=A0 The TR hub does match.=C2=A0 The MGB hub is the same all around, exc=
ept in the length.=C2=A0 So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off=
 (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 =
rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.=C2=A0 There are a number of Alpi=
ne owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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From: Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:34:35 -0600

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I have the 15" LAT70 wheels from Sunbeam Specialties with 205/50 Dunlop
tires.  I will probably try to go a little narrower the next time I buy
tires.

Have Fun,
Joe Brown

arder to come
with wire
es
le bit.
tion a
at.  But
 have pictures of
 it=E2=80=99s a
w
iameter at
in
=99m not
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have the 15&quot; LAT70 wheels from Sunbeam Specialties =
with 205/50 Dunlop tires.=C2=A0 I will probably try to go a little narrower=
 the next time I buy tires.<div><img src=3D"cid:ii_kwz8o2cf0" alt=3D"Tiger.=
jpg" width=3D"514" height=3D"385"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Have Fun,=
=C2=A0</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:14 AM Jay via Tig=
ers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As I=
=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and harder =
to come by.=C2=A0 In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for=
 my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from C=
oker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.=C2=A0 Before I decide=
 to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternativ=
es.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?=C2=A0 <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little=
 bit.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selecti=
on a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.=C2=A0 So those looks =
great.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look=
 silly.=C2=A0 Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indi=
cate what tires are on them?=C2=A0 I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different =
look with a mag wheel.=C2=A0 But I want to get a sense of how low profile t=
he tires would be.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at=
 23-24=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.=
=C2=A0 The TR hub does match.=C2=A0 The MGB hub is the same all around, exc=
ept in the length.=C2=A0 So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off=
 (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 =
rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.=C2=A0 There are a number of Alpi=
ne owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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From: Chip Broadbooks via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 13:04:19 -0500

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Son of a Bitch!!!!
Those were not available when I was restoring mine (my Dad's).

Those look GREAT!!!
And a good deal less than what I spent!

:,(

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 12:44 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and =
harder to come
>> by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for my Alpine=
 with wire
>> wheels is absolutely no longer available except from Coker at $250 a tir=
e
>> or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.  Before I decide to spend $1,250 on ti=
res
>> (2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a lit=
tle bit.
>> (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire sele=
ction a
>> lot.
>>
>> The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.  So those looks gr=
eat.  But
>> I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look silly.  Anyon=
e have pictures of
>> Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicate what tires are on them?  I kno=
w it=E2=80=99s a
>> totally different look with a mag wheel.  But I want to get a sense of h=
ow
>> low profile the tires would be.  I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall =
diameter at
>> one.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all around, except=
 in
=99m not
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<div dir=3D"auto">Son of a Bitch!!!!<div dir=3D"auto">Those were not availa=
ble when I was restoring mine (my Dad&#39;s).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">Those look GREAT!!!</div><div dir=3D"auto">And a good=
 deal less than what I spent!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">:,(</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 12:44 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I have the 15&quot;=
 LAT70 wheels from Sunbeam Specialties with 205/50 Dunlop tires.=C2=A0 I wi=
ll probably try to go a little narrower the next time I buy tires.<div><img=
 src=3D"cid:ii_kwz8o2cf0" alt=3D"Tiger.jpg" width=3D"514" height=3D"385"><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>Have Fun,=C2=A0</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:14 AM Jay via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As I=
=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and harder =
to come by.=C2=A0 In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for=
 my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from C=
oker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.=C2=A0 Before I decide=
 to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternativ=
es.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?=C2=A0 <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little=
 bit.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selecti=
on a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.=C2=A0 So those looks =
great.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look=
 silly.=C2=A0 Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indi=
cate what tires are on them?=C2=A0 I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different =
look with a mag wheel.=C2=A0 But I want to get a sense of how low profile t=
he tires would be.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at=
 23-24=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.=
=C2=A0 The TR hub does match.=C2=A0 The MGB hub is the same all around, exc=
ept in the length.=C2=A0 So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off=
 (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 =
rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.=C2=A0 There are a number of Alpi=
ne owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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From: Mark Rense via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.

My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made again for
that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.

Bugz

arder to come
with wire
es
le bit.
tion a
at.  But
 have pictures of
 it=E2=80=99s a
w
iameter at
in
=99m not
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Here is one of=
 mine with 15&quot; Minilites.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">My other has 14&quot; and there is some really good rubber being made =
again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Bugz<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tig=
ers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As I=
=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and harder =
to come by.=C2=A0 In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for=
 my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from C=
oker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.=C2=A0 Before I decide=
 to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternativ=
es.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?=C2=A0 <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little=
 bit.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selecti=
on a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.=C2=A0 So those looks =
great.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look=
 silly.=C2=A0 Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indi=
cate what tires are on them?=C2=A0 I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different =
look with a mag wheel.=C2=A0 But I want to get a sense of how low profile t=
he tires would be.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at=
 23-24=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.=
=C2=A0 The TR hub does match.=C2=A0 The MGB hub is the same all around, exc=
ept in the length.=C2=A0 So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off=
 (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 =
rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.=C2=A0 There are a number of Alpi=
ne owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:08:32 -0500

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I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s still in their boxes.

Has anyone determined if wheels in that size increase mileage?

I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 gallons i=
n the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range between fill-ups=
.

In some areas that can be a problem.

Thx,

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger
Series 1 Alpine (v6)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
>=20
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> My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made again for=
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> Bugz
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>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers <[email-masked]> wr=
>> As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and h=
arder to come by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for=
 my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from Co=
ker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.  Before I decide to spe=
nd $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.
>>=20
>> (1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not? =20
le bit.
>> (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selec=
tion a lot.
>>=20
at.  But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look silly.  A=
nyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicate what tires a=
re on them?  I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different look with a mag wheel. =
 But I want to get a sense of how low profile the tires would be.  I=E2=80=99=
m hoping to keep the overall diameter at 23-24=E2=80=9D.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine on=
e.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all around, except in th=
e length.  So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off (for 6 threads=
) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 rotations of the=
 knock off, for 4 threads.  There are a number of Alpine owners running this=
 way and say they have never had a problem.  I=E2=80=99m not confident in th=
at as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99=
s still in their boxes.<div><br></div><div>Has anyone determined if wheels i=
n that size increase mileage?</div><div><br></div><div>I enjoy the open road=
 but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 gallons in the tanks and a th=
irsty engine results in a limited range between fill-ups.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>In some areas that can be a problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Thx,</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Allan Ballard</div><div>Mk1a Tiger</div><div>Series 1=
 Alpine (v6)<br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" d=
ir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 9, 2021, at 1=
:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being ma=
de again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Bugz<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tige=
rs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As I=E2=80=
=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and harder to come=
 by.&nbsp; In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for my Alpi=
ne with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from Coker at $=
250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.&nbsp; Before I decide to spend $=
1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?&nbsp; <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little b=
it.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selectio=
n a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.&nbsp; So those looks g=
reat.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look s=
illy.&nbsp; Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicat=
e what tires are on them?&nbsp; I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different look=
 with a mag wheel.&nbsp; But I want to get a sense of how low profile the ti=
res would be.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at 23-24=
=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.&=
nbsp; The TR hub does match.&nbsp; The MGB hub is the same all around, excep=
t in the length.&nbsp; So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off (f=
or 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 rota=
tions of the knock off, for 4 threads.&nbsp; There are a number of Alpine ow=
ners running this way and say they have never had a problem.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99=
m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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Nice Tiger Bugz!
Same color (warm off-white) I have always=20
been planning to do mine.
What color and paint is yours?
Gary

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Nice Tiger Bugz!<div>Same color (warm off-w=
hite) I have always&nbsp;</div><div>been planning to do mine.</div><div>What=
 color and paint is yours?</div><div>Gary</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On D=
ec 9, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Here i=
s one of mine with 15" Minilites.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made again=
 for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div>Bugz<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As I=E2=80=99m s=
ure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder and harder to come by.&n=
bsp; In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I prefer for my Alpine wit=
h wire wheels is absolutely no longer available except from Coker at $250 a t=
ire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.&nbsp; Before I decide to spend $1,250 o=
n tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking of alternatives.<br>
<br>
(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?&nbsp; <br>
(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a little b=
it.<br>
(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire selectio=
n a lot.<br>
<br>
The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.&nbsp; So those looks g=
reat.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will look s=
illy.&nbsp; Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can indicat=
e what tires are on them?&nbsp; I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different look=
 with a mag wheel.&nbsp; But I want to get a sense of how low profile the ti=
res would be.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at 23-24=
=E2=80=9D.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the Alpine one.&=
nbsp; The TR hub does match.&nbsp; The MGB hub is the same all around, excep=
t in the length.&nbsp; So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock off (f=
or 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets 4 rota=
tions of the knock off, for 4 threads.&nbsp; There are a number of Alpine ow=
ners running this way and say they have never had a problem.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99=
m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.<br>
<br>
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From: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 16:26:31 -0500 (EST)

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I have 15" Panasports on my Mk1A.
No issues and I like the look.  I've attached two (2) pix.

Tym McDowell

>     On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     Nice Tiger Bugz!
>         > > On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
> >         My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being mad=
e again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.
> >=20
> >         Bugz
> >=20
> >         On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers <[email-masked]=
am.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >=20
> >             > > > As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are =
getting harder and harder to come by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D ti=
res that I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer av=
ailable except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire. =
 Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinki=
ng of alternatives.
> > >=20
> > >             (1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?=20
> > >             (2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire =
selection a little bit.
> > >             (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens u=
p the tire selection a lot.
> > >=20
> > >             The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.  So=
 those looks great.  But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels w=
ill look silly.  Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can i=
ndicate what tires are on them?  I know it=E2=80=99s a totally different lo=
ok with a mag wheel.  But I want to get a sense of how low profile the tire=
s would be.  I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall diameter at 23-24=E2=80=
=9D.
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >             In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not mat=
ch the Alpine one.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all aro=
und, except in the length.  So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock =
off (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine gets=
 4 rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.  There are a number of Alpine=
 owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.  I=E2=80=99=
m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.
> > >             [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;"> <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;"=
>I have 15" Panasports on my Mk1A.</span>=20
   <br>=20
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;" class=3D"default-style"> <span style=3D"font-family: helv=
etica; font-size: 12pt;">No issues and I like the look.&nbsp; I've attached=
 two (2) pix.</span>=20
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etica; font-size: 12pt;"><br></span>=20
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     On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Gary via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:=20
   </div>=20
   <div>=20
    <br>=20
   </div>=20
   <div>=20
    <br>=20
   </div>Nice Tiger Bugz!=20
   <div>
     Same color (warm off-white) I have always&nbsp;=20
   </div>=20
   <div>
     been planning to do mine.=20
   </div>=20
   <div>
     What color and paint is yours?=20
   </div>=20
   <div>
     Gary=20
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   <div>=20
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       On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.=
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      <br>=20
      <br>=20
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        <br>=20
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         Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.=20
       </div>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
        <br>=20
       </div>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
         My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made a=
gain for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.=20
        <br>=20
       </div>=20
       <div dir=3D"ltr">=20
        <br>=20
       </div>=20
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t I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available=
 except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.&nbsp; B=
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the knock off (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an A=
lpine gets 4 rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.&nbsp; There are a n=
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Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...  More road c=
overed for each explosion!
Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my Tiger and =
larger tires definitely give more MPG.
Same as adding an overdrive trans.  But if you have a big cam, it might be =
happier turning more revs.
Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the trans or r=
ear end gears!
Gary

>     On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>=20
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>     I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 g=
allons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range between=
 fill-ups.
>     On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers <[email-masked].=
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   Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...&nbsp; Mor=
e road covered for each explosion!
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   Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my Tiger a=
nd larger tires definitely give more MPG.
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Same as adding an overdrive trans.&nbsp; But if you have a big cam, it m=
ight be happier turning more revs.
  </div>
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   Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the trans o=
r rear end gears!
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   Gary
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    On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt; wrote:
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    <br>
   </div>I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s still in their boxes.
   <div>
    <br>
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    Has anyone determined if wheels in that size increase mileage?
   </div>
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    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 gal=
lons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range between f=
ill-ups.
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    In some areas that can be a problem.
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
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    Thx,
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    Allan Ballard
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    Mk1a Tiger
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      <br>On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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         Here is one of mine with 15" Minilites.
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         My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made a=
gain for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.
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          As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting hard=
er and harder to come by.&nbsp; In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires tha=
t I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available=
 except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.&nbsp; B=
efore I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m thinking=
 of alternatives.
          <br>
          <br>(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck not?&nbsp;=20
          <br>(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire sele=
ction a little bit.
          <br>(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up th=
e tire selection a lot.
          <br>
          <br>The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.&nbsp; S=
o those looks great.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wh=
eels will look silly.&nbsp; Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D=
, and can indicate what tires are on them?&nbsp; I know it=E2=80=99s a tota=
lly different look with a mag wheel.&nbsp; But I want to get a sense of how=
 low profile the tires would be.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overa=
ll diameter at 23-24=E2=80=9D.
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match t=
he Alpine one.&nbsp; The TR hub does match.&nbsp; The MGB hub is the same a=
ll around, except in the length.&nbsp; So instead of getting 6 rotations of=
 the knock off (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an =
Alpine gets 4 rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.&nbsp; There are a =
number of Alpine owners running this way and say they have never had a prob=
lem.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to =
rely on.
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To be more precise, increasing/decreasing total TIRE circumference will =
impact MPG, acceleration and top speed.  Increasing/decreasing WHEEL =
circumference is irrelevant.

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 8:27 AM, GARY WINBLAD via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...  More =
road covered for each explosion!
> Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my Tiger =
and larger tires definitely give more MPG.
> Same as adding an overdrive trans.  But if you have a big cam, it =
might be happier turning more revs.
> Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the trans =
or rear end gears!
> Gary
>=20
>> On 12/09/2021 2:08 PM Allan Ballard via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>> I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 =
gallons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range =
between fill-ups.
>> Series 1 Alpine (v6)=20
>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rense via Tigers =
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> My other has 14" and there is some really good rubber being made =
again for that size. Check out the Falken Azenis RT615K+.=20
>>>=20
>>> Bugz=20
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:14 PM Jay via Tigers =
>>> As I=E2=80=99m sure many know, 13=E2=80=9D tires are getting harder =
and harder to come by.  In fact, the specific 13=E2=80=9D tires that I =
prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no longer available =
except from Coker at $250 a tire or racing Dunlops at $320 a tire.  =
Before I decide to spend $1,250 on tires for my Alpine, I=E2=80=99m =
thinking of alternatives.=20
>>> (2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up tire selection a =
little bit.=20
>>> (3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which opens up the tire =
selection a lot.=20
>>>=20
>>> The Tiger/Alpine was designed for 14=E2=80=9D wheels.  So those =
looks great.  But I=E2=80=99m worried that 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels will =
look silly.  Anyone have pictures of Tigers with 15=E2=80=9D, and can =
indicate what tires are on them?  I know it=E2=80=99s a totally =
different look with a mag wheel.  But I want to get a sense of how low =
profile the tires would be.  I=E2=80=99m hoping to keep the overall =
diameter at 23-24=E2=80=9D.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In case anyone cares, the MGB wire wheel hub does not match the =
Alpine one.  The TR hub does match.  The MGB hub is the same all around, =
except in the length.  So instead of getting 6 rotations of the knock =
off (for 6 threads) to tighten on the wheel, an MGB wheel on an Alpine =
gets 4 rotations of the knock off, for 4 threads.  There are a number of =
Alpine owners running this way and say they have never had a problem.  =
I=E2=80=99m not confident in that as a legitimate conclusion to rely on.=20=

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be more precise, increasing/decreasing total TIRE circumference will =
impact MPG, acceleration and top speed. &nbsp;Increasing/decreasing =
WHEEL circumference is irrelevant.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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   Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...&nbsp; =
More road covered for each explosion!
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Back in the day, I used to log every gallon that went through my =
Tiger and larger tires definitely give more MPG.
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Same as adding an overdrive trans.&nbsp; But if you have a big cam, =
it might be happier turning more revs.
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Changing rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the =
trans or rear end gears!
  </div>
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   Gary
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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    <br class=3D"">
   </div>I have a set of 15=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s still in their =
boxes.
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    <br class=3D"">
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    Has anyone determined if wheels in that size increase mileage?
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    I enjoy the open road but 13=E2=80=9D LAT 70=E2=80=99s plus only 13 =
gallons in the tanks and a thirsty engine results in a limited range =
between fill-ups.
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
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    In some areas that can be a problem.
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    <br class=3D"">
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    Thx,
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    <br class=3D"">
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   <div class=3D"">
    Allan Ballard
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    Mk1a Tiger
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    Series 1 Alpine (v6)
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tires that I prefer for my Alpine with wire wheels is absolutely no =
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          <br class=3D"">(1) Buy racing Dunlop tires - why the heck =
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          <br class=3D"">(2) Get MGB 14=E2=80=9D wire wheels, which =
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          <br class=3D"">(3) Get TR3 or TR4 15=E2=80=9D wire wheels, =
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/"Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase MPG...  More 
road covered for each explosion!"/

"C/hanging rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing the trans 
or rear end gears/!"

I agree with that with these caveats. The increase comes mostly on level 
or downhill roadways. Inclines can require more throttle than with 
shorter tires and you are back on the other side of the "sweet spot." 
RPM is not the only factor. My daily driver Mazda spins at 3,000 RPM and 
gets near 35 MPG. My Studebaker with a 700R4, 225-60-16 tires and 3:07 
gears spins at 1,600 RPM and gets about 17MPG. both cars at 65 MPH 
freeway speeds. Yea, weight and displacement is a factor but half the 
RPM gets half the mileage.

Taller tires and a Tiger with a close ratio transmission are not a good 
match. Also unless one has a compensated odometer you need to do the 
math to recalculate the actual mileage. A T-5 transmission over a wide 
ratio Toploader will likely see little difference in city driving. If 
you are driving across country for a SUNI or such you may well 
appreciate the investment. But, yes, I'd say a few hundred dollars 
invested in rather taller tires for a lengthy road trip is quite a 
difference over $4,000-$5,000 for T-5 install. The only thing is you 
need to bring your regular tires to swap out once you get there. 
Everything seems to have its tradeoffs. BTW, a 13 gallon tank can also 
be compensated for with a 5 gallon jug - likely the most economical 
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    <p><i>"Increasing total wheel/tire circumference WILL increase
        MPG...  More road covered for each explosion!"</i></p>
    <p>"C<i>hanging rear wheels for a road trip is easier than changing
        the trans or rear end gears</i>!"</p>
    <p>I agree with that with these caveats. The increase comes mostly
      on level or downhill roadways. Inclines can require more throttle
      than with shorter tires and you are back on the other side of the
      "sweet spot." RPM is not the only factor. My daily driver Mazda
      spins at 3,000 RPM and gets near 35 MPG. My Studebaker with a
      700R4, 225-60-16 tires and 3:07 gears spins at 1,600 RPM and gets
      about 17MPG. both cars at 65 MPH freeway speeds. Yea, weight and
      displacement is a factor but half the RPM gets half the mileage.</p>
    <p> Taller tires and a Tiger with a close ratio transmission are not
      a good match. Also unless one has a compensated odometer you need
      to do the math to recalculate the actual mileage. A T-5
      transmission over a wide ratio Toploader will likely see little
      difference in city driving. If you are driving across country for
      a SUNI or such you may well appreciate the investment. But, yes,
      I'd say a few hundred dollars invested in rather taller tires for
      a lengthy road trip is quite a difference over $4,000-$5,000 for 
      T-5 install. The only thing is you need to bring your regular
      tires to swap out once you get there. Everything seems to have its
      tradeoffs. BTW, a 13 gallon tank can also be compensated for with
      a 5 gallon jug - likely the most economical solution.<br>
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