Subject: Re: [Tigers] radiator mounting

From: Jeffery Randall via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:44:51 -0400

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I mounted my Griffin rad using sticky backed 1/4 in. Insulation from the
hardware store. Lasted 6 years without a problem.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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> hi,
>
> what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i had
> changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not
> because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering
> the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and
> stressed out.  the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new
> rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the
> front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't
> really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
> something which absorbs the flex and vibration.
>
> I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they
> will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.  its not arrived
> yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
> this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes in the
> mounting tabs.
>
> https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/
>
> cheers.
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<div dir=3D"auto">I mounted my Griffin rad using sticky backed 1/4 in. Insu=
lation from the hardware store. Lasted 6 years without a problem.</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Se=
p 25, 2020, 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">hi,<div><br></div><div>what are you guys do=
ing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?=C2=A0 i had changed my stock rad f=
or an ali version from Dale a few years back. not because i needed better c=
ooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering the rad up all over the =
place and thought it must be all flexed and stressed out.=C2=A0 the first t=
ime i put any miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak which i =
assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which is flexing u=
nder torque and cornering.=C2=A0 since i can&#39;t really repair it, I boug=
ht a new one from the UK but want to mount it on something which absorbs th=
e flex and vibration.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of exhaust bo=
bbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they will put the rad too far back a=
nd allow too much movement.=C2=A0 its not arrived yet so i&#39;m not exactl=
y sure of the width.</div><div><br></div><div>this solution looks nice but =
it wouldn&#39;t work without large holes in the mounting tabs.=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/div><div><a href=3D"https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-eff=
iciency-aluminium-radiator/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://w=
ww.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/</a=
><br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers.</div></div>
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 12:40:13 -0400

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I hard mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven't had any
problems with it.  Now you guys have got me worried.

Will - 382001570
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I h=
ard mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven&#39;t had any proble=
ms with it.=C2=A0 Now you guys have got me worried.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Wi=
ll - 382001570 <br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8=
:48 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">hi,<div><br></div><div>what are you g=
uys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?=C2=A0 i had changed my stock=
 rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not because i needed be=
tter cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering the rad up all ove=
r the place and thought it must be all flexed and stressed out.=C2=A0 the f=
irst time i put any miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak wh=
ich i assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which is fle=
xing under torque and cornering.=C2=A0 since i can&#39;t really repair it, =
I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on something which abso=
rbs the flex and vibration.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of exha=
ust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they will put the rad too far =
back and allow too much movement.=C2=A0 its not arrived yet so i&#39;m not =
exactly sure of the width.</div><div><br></div><div>this solution looks nic=
e but it wouldn&#39;t work without large holes in the mounting tabs.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-h=
igh-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.conceptra=
cing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/</a><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>cheers.</div></div>
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Yeah, I have never heard of such a problem either...  but,
Owain really uses his Tiger..  fast race/rallyes...  Tigers are pretty 
flexible.. and even I removed the bottom piece
of the core support (that blocks the radiator) that might have made it 
stronger...  OWAIN, did you do that too?
Gary

On 9/25/2020 9:40 AM, Will Seay wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:48 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers 
>
>     hi,
>
>     what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?  i
>     had changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years
>     back. not because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was
>     tired of soldering the rad up all over the place and thought it
>     must be all flexed and stressed out.  the first time i put any
>     miles on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak which i
>     assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel which is
>     flexing under torque and cornering.  since i can't really repair
>     it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on
>     I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect
>     they will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement. 
>     its not arrived yet so i'm not exactly sure of the width.
>
>     this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without large holes
>     in the mounting tabs.
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    Yeah, I have never heard of such a problem either...  but,<br>
    Owain really uses his Tiger..  fast race/rallyes...  Tigers are
    pretty flexible.. and even I removed the bottom piece<br>
    of the core support (that blocks the radiator) that might have made
    it stronger...  OWAIN, did you do that too?<br>
    Gary<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I hard
          mounted my Griffin radiator 12 years ago and haven't had any
          problems with it.  Now you guys have got me worried.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
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          AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers &lt;<a
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          <div dir="ltr">hi,
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um
              radiators?  i had changed my stock rad for an ali version
              from Dale a few years back. not because i needed better
              cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering the
              rad up all over the place and thought it must be all
              flexed and stressed out.  the first time i put any miles
              on the car recently, the new rad sprung a leak which i
              assume is from having it bolted solid to the front panel
              which is flexing under torque and cornering.  since i
              can't really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but
              want to mount it on something which absorbs the flex and
              vibration.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini
              but i suspect they will put the rad too far back and allow
              too much movement.  its not arrived yet so i'm not exactly
              sure of the width.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>this solution looks nice but it wouldn't work without
              large holes in the mounting tabs.  </div>
            <div><a
href="https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/</a><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>cheers.</div>
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From: Mark Rense via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:58:44 -0400

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My Griffin has been solidly mounted in my stroker car for over ten years,
never had a problem with it, and the car does flex a bit with all that
horsepower.

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<div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">My Griffin=
 has been solidly mounted in my stroker car for over ten years, never had a=
 problem with it, and the car does flex a bit with all that horsepower.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">hi,<=
div><br></div><div>what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiat=
ors?=C2=A0 i had changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few ye=
ars back. not because i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tire=
d of soldering the rad up all over the place and thought it must be all fle=
xed and stressed out.=C2=A0 the first time i put any miles on the car recen=
tly, the new rad sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted soli=
d to the front panel which is flexing under torque and cornering.=C2=A0 sin=
ce i can&#39;t really repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to=
 mount it on something which absorbs the flex and vibration.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I have a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspe=
ct they will put the rad too far back and allow too much movement.=C2=A0 it=
s not arrived yet so i&#39;m not exactly sure of the width.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>this solution looks nice but it wouldn&#39;t work without large h=
oles in the mounting tabs.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.con=
ceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-aluminium-radiator/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.conceptracing.co.uk/sunbeam-tiger-high-efficiency-a=
luminium-radiator/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers.</div></div><br>=
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From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Thanks everyone for your data points.  Both private and to the list.

I rather like our good doctor from Parump's suggestion that
the mounting points were not perfectly in line and hence the rad was under
stress when tightened down.  I'll check that with the new one in position.
 I'm tempted to give the new one a try using only a thick foam strip all
the way round between the rad and the front panel and just bolt through
that.

I've attached a couple of photos of the location of the leak.  you can't
see it.

What a great group of owners tiger list members are!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks everyone for your data points.=C2=A0 Both private a=
nd to the list.<div><br></div><div>I rather like our good doctor from Parum=
p&#39;s suggestion that the=C2=A0mounting=C2=A0points were not perfectly=C2=
=A0in line and hence the=C2=A0rad=C2=A0was under stress when tightened down=
.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll check that with the new one in position.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39=
;m tempted to give the new one a try using only a thick foam strip all the =
way round between the rad and the front panel and just bolt through that.</=
div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>I&#39;ve attached a couple of photos of the=C2=A0=
location of the leak.=C2=A0 you can&#39;t see it.</div><div><br></div><div>=
What a great group of owners tiger list members are!=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On F=
ri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:59 PM Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto">My Griffin has been solidly mounted in my s=
troker car for over ten years, never had a problem with it, and the car doe=
s flex a bit with all that horsepower.=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:=
58 AM Owain Lloyd via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">hi,<div><br></div><d=
iv>what are you guys doing to mount your alumin(i)um radiators?=C2=A0 i had=
 changed my stock rad for an ali version from Dale a few years back. not be=
cause i needed better cooling but mainly because i was tired of soldering t=
he rad up all over the place and thought it must be all flexed and stressed=
 out.=C2=A0 the first time i put any miles on the car recently, the new rad=
 sprung a leak which i assume is from having it bolted solid to the front p=
anel which is flexing under torque and cornering.=C2=A0 since i can&#39;t r=
eally repair it, I bought a new one from the UK but want to mount it on som=
ething which absorbs the flex and vibration.</div><div><br></div><div>I hav=
e a bunch of exhaust bobbin rubbers from a mini but i suspect they will put=
 the rad too far back and allow too much movement.=C2=A0 its not arrived ye=
t so i&#39;m not exactly sure of the width.</div><div><br></div><div>this s=
olution looks nice but it wouldn&#39;t work without large holes in the moun=
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