Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 41

From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 01:12:33 +0000 (UTC)

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Don't forget to add NHTSA=C2=A0 regulations.=C2=A0 Google 1967 NHTSA regula=
tions for an eye opener.=C2=A0 Dual circuit brakes, crush zones ...=20
Beating a Chrysler motor to fit would have been easier.
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=C2=A0 1. Oil Pressure Gauge Removal (Stu)
=C2=A0 2. Urban legend (Curt Bowland)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Urban legend (Jim Sencindiver)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Urban legend (Stu)
=C2=A0 5. Re: Urban legend (Gary)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:45:35 -0500
From: Stu <[email-masked]>
To: Tiger Net <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Oil Pressure Gauge Removal
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CA+DpG64nsWfSVhDddXeprx2m8sZqOjVByw2aoozOkuohccZo8A@mai=
l.gmail.com>

I did this once before, so I know I'm going to feel stupid when someone
tells me the trick....

I'm trying to get the gauge out to upgrade the hose.=C2=A0 I can get one of=
 the
knurled nuts on the U-bracket free, but not the one on the top. I have the
speedometer out, and am reaching in through that hole, able to get a finger
or a finger and a half on the nut.=C2=A0 But not enough to turn it,

It didn't look like removing the tach would provide any better access.

Does anyone out there know a trick?

Stu
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 19:48:16 +0000
From: Curt Bowland <[email-masked]>
To: tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Urban legend
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]=
mprd07.prod.outlook.com>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware that =
the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of th=
e distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.

I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall no=
tching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wondering i=
f that might have worked/been a possibility.=C2=A0 Probably would have been=
 to expensive a change to tool for.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 17:56:57 -0500
From: Jim Sencindiver <[email-masked]>
To: Curt Bowland <[email-masked]>
Cc: tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CADz+Ttdg8gXn9DvZnnEMhVfPCDcTj73kJjTYOLDz=3D3wU+5DgBw@m=
ail.gmail.com>

Another part of the problem was where to relocate the heater core and
re-route the air vent hoses and coolant hoses.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware tha=
t
> the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of
> the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.
>
> I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall
> notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wonderi=
ng
> if that might have worked/been a possibility.=C2=A0 Probably would have b=
een to
> expensive a change to tool for.
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--=20
Jim Sencindiver

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 18:47:02 -0500
From: Stu <[email-masked]>
To: Curt Bowland <[email-masked]>
Cc: tigers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
Message-ID:
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l.gmail.com>

IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, but
they were also much wider.=C2=A0 The budget to do a major redesign of the e=
ngine
compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it bumper?)
requirements was not there,=C2=A0 So Tigers ended in '67.

Stu

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware tha=
t
> the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of
> the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.
>
> I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall
> notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wonderi=
ng
> if that might have worked/been a possibility.=C2=A0 Probably would have b=
een to
> expensive a change to tool for.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:06:15 -0800
From: Gary <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend

Stu is the winna...
Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes? to Sunbeam Tiger=20
distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.

One good description from:=20
https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce=
-automotive-safety-standards/

The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January=20
1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.

Most of the new regulations simply codified best practice; requiring all=20
vehicles to have padded instrument panels, recessed inside door handles,=20
non-rigid armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls,=20
twin-circuit brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of=20
the windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and=20
four-way hazard flashers.

Other regulations required new features: energy-absorbing steering=20
columns, a warning lamp for brake circuit depressurization, minimal=20
post-collision fuel spillage, front and rear side marker lights or=20
reflectors, and windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and=20
improved retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48=20
kph) crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of=20
standardized test dummies in the front seats.

etc...

Gary

On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
> IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem,=20
> but they were also much wider.? The budget to do a major redesign of=20
> the engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it=20
> bumper?) requirements was not there,? So Tigers ended in '67.
>
> Stu
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers=20
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I =
was
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware that the inability of clearance available to accommoda=
te the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 rear position of the distributor was THE issue for the demis=
e of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the Tiger.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly drama=
tic
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 installation. Just wondering if that might have worked/been =
a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 possibility.? Probably would have been to expensive a change=
 to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 tool for.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Don't forget to add NHTSA&nbsp; regulations.&nbsp; Google 19=
67 NHTSA regulations for an eye opener.&nbsp; Dual circuit brakes, crush zo=
nes ... <br>
Beating a Chrysler motor to fit would have been easier.</p>
</br></br><div class=3D"device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"></div><hr style=3D"b=
order:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9=
px 0;padding:0;"></hr><span style=3D"font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Sat=
urday, March 7, 2020 tigers-request &#60;<span style=3D"color:#0000A0">tige=
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div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Today=
's Topics:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;  1. =
Oil Pressure Gauge Removal (Stu)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;  2. Urban=
 legend (Curt Bowland)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;  3. Re: Urban legen=
d (Jim Sencindiver)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;  4. Re: Urban legend (=
Stu)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;  5. Re: Urban legend (Gary)<br></div>=
<div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>----=
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><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message: 1<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:45:35 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Fro=
m: Stu &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:sabre2t=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>To: Tig=
er Net &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:Tiger=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>S=
ubject: [Tigers] Oil Pressure Gauge Removal<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Messa=
ge-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CA+<a ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>I did this once before, so I =
know I'm going to feel stupid when someone<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>tells =
me the trick....<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>I'm t=
rying to get the gauge out to upgrade the hose.&nbsp; I can get one of the<=
br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>knurled nuts on the U-bracket free, but not the o=
ne on the top. I have the<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>speedometer out, and am=
 reaching in through that hole, able to get a finger<br></div><div dir=3D'l=
tr'>or a finger and a half on the nut.&nbsp; But not enough to turn it,<br>=
</div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>It didn't look like remov=
ing the tach would provide any better access.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br=
></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Does anyone out there know a trick?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Stu<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>-------=
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t, 7 Mar 2020 19:48:16 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: Curt Bowland &=
lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>To: tigers &lt;<a ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ti=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: [Tigers] Urb=
an legend<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:DM6PR07MB724294080373CF2A01EF36A=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:DM6PR07MB724=
[email-masked]">DM6PR07=
[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine=
 fit thread I was aware that the inability of clearance available to accomm=
odate the rear position of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of =
the Tiger.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>I have seen=
 several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall notching, mos=
tly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wondering if that migh=
t have worked/been a possibility.&nbsp; Probably would have been to expensi=
ve a change to tool for.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>-------------- next part=
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56:57 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: Jim Sencindiver &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>To: Curt Bowl=
and &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:cbowland@msn.=
com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Cc: tigers &lt;<a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: Re: [Ti=
gers] Urban legend<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CADz+Ttdg8gXn9DvZnnEMhVfPCDcTj73kJjTYOLDz=
=3D3wU+<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:5DgBw@mail=
.gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-=
Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><di=
v dir=3D'ltr'>Another part of the problem was where to relocate the heater =
core and<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>re-route the air vent hoses and coolant =
hoses.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>On Sat, Mar 7, =
2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers &lt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div=
><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit t=
hread I was aware that<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; the inability of clea=
rance available to accommodate the rear position of<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>&gt; the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.<br></div=
><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; I have seen several T=
igers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>&gt; notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just w=
ondering<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; if that might have worked/been a po=
ssibility.&nbsp; Probably would have been to<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;=
 expensive a change to tool for.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; ___________=
____________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; <a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D=
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2 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: Stu &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:sabre2=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>To: Curt Bowland &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:cbo=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Cc: tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend<br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;C=
A+<a ymailto=3D"mailto:DpG65z0HCkENnFbRnRaJqkNoGCp4Vx0NybLn2OsCYWzRa72Q@mai=
l.gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:DpG65z0HCkENnFbRnRaJqkNoGCp4Vx0NybLn2OsCYWzRa72=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
il.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>IIRC Chrysl=
er V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, but<br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>they were also much wider.&nbsp; The budget to do a major rede=
sign of the engine<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>compartment, as well as meet t=
he new '68 safety (or was it bumper?)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>requirement=
s was not there,&nbsp; So Tigers ended in '67.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Stu<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers &lt;<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D'ltr'><a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; While I have no idea about t=
he Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware that<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&g=
t; the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; the distributor was THE issue for the demis=
e of the Tiger.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&g=
t; I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber C=
arb installation. Just wondering<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; if that mig=
ht have worked/been a possibility.&nbsp; Probably would have been to<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; expensive a change to tool for.<br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>&gt; _______________________________________________<br></div><div=
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v dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message: 5<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:06:15 -0800<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: Gar=
y &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:garywinb=
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To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: Re:=
 [Tigers] Urban legend<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">30016137-be12-350a-e97d-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-Type: te=
xt/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Stu is the winna...<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Urba=
n myth is just that, a myth when it comes? to Sunbeam Tiger <br></div><div =
dir=3D'ltr'>distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.<br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>One good description from: <b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><a href=3D"https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/201=
8/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/" target=
=3D_blank>https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers=
-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/</a><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br><=
/div><div dir=3D'ltr'>The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty year=
s ago, January <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>1968; less than fifteen months af=
ter the agency was established.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'>Most of the new regulations simply codified best practice; requir=
ing all <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>vehicles to have padded instrument panel=
s, recessed inside door handles, <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>non-rigid armre=
sts, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'=
>twin-circuit brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of <br=
></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>the windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, re=
versing lamps and <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>four-way hazard flashers.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Other regulations required=
 new features: energy-absorbing steering <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>columns=
, a warning lamp for brake circuit depressurization, minimal <br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>post-collision fuel spillage, front and rear side marker light=
s or <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>reflectors, and windscreens with thicker-in=
terlayer safety glass and <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>improved retention. Fi=
nally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
kph) crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of <br></div=
><div dir=3D'ltr'>standardized test dummies in the front seats.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>etc...<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Gary<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>On 3/7/2020=
 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; IIRC Chrysle=
r V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, <br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'>&gt; but they were also much wider.? The budget to do a major rede=
sign of <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; the engine compartment, as well as =
meet the new '68 safety (or was it <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; bumper?)=
 requirements was not there,? So Tigers ended in '67.<br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; Stu<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland=
 via Tigers <br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers=
@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  While I h=
ave no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was<br></div><div dir=3D=
'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  aware that the inability of clearance available to=
 accommodate the<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  rear position=
 of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  the Tiger.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  I have seen several Tigers with what look=
s like fairly dramatic<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  firewal=
l notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>=
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  installation. Just wondering if that might have worked/b=
een a<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  possibility.? Probably w=
ould have been to expensive a change to<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp=
; &nbsp;  tool for.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  __________=
_____________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></d=
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