Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4

From: Warren Goodman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC)

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So get out your brush and paint the grill mouth black. Then get a corn whis=
k broom and slip on undercoating..... ;)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800
From: Jay Laifman <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Witt <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Tiger's Den" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAAjp1z5NdixYVpXscM-EDvspc9OmHje8w0qi8b9S=3D5d+d-sUHw@m=
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It really depends on the competition in the concours world.=C2=A0 When the =
cars
get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count.

One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed
oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours
kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete.

And another interesting story.=C2=A0 I watched at TV documentary on Corvett=
e
restoration.=C2=A0 Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the
winners had to go even further.=C2=A0 This restorer was showing that the pa=
int
on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.=C2=A0=
 He
"perfected" that peel!=C2=A0 He also showed that Chevy would not buff out t=
he
paint until after the bumpers were on.=C2=A0 So the paint under the bumpers=
 had
more orange peel. He perfected that as well.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> ?...even the judges can't agree...?
>
> Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified
> to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slight=
ly
> gray and yet I see a hint of green.=C2=A0 As far as ?...no da swirls,? we=
ll only
> if there were no swirls from the factory.=C2=A0 But then..., what is orig=
inal?
> Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process
> they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after
> dealer prep. So, what is original?=C2=A0 Will it get to the point that ju=
dges
> microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tire=
s
> for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent
> that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk
> fitting and that was deemed ?more original!?
>
>=C2=A0 I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmansh=
ip
> there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative
> side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren=
?t
> ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit.
>
> *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM
> *To:* [email-masked] ; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG
>
> try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't
> agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over
> spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it
> takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long boar=
d
> or short board...no da swirls
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am
> Subject: [Tigers] BRG
>
> A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had
> the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art
> than today, but they all looked great!!=C2=A0 Beau.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">So get out your brush and paint the grill mouth black. Then =
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1. Re: BRG (Jay Laifman)<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>---------------------------------------------=
-------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'l=
tr'>Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -08=
00<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>From: Jay Laifman &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jay=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jay.laifman@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>To: Tom Witt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">atwittsend=
@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Cc: "Tiger's Den" &lt;<a yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Subject: Re: [Tige=
rs] BRG<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAAjp1z5NdixYVpXscM-EDvspc9OmHje8w0qi8b9S=3D5d+<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>Content-Type: text/p=
lain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>It really depends on the competition in the concours world.&nbsp; When th=
e cars<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>get so good that differences become more m=
inor, it has to count.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'=
>One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed<b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the P=
ebble Beach concours<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>kicked out Porsche because t=
he other cars couldn't compete.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div di=
r=3D'ltr'>And another interesting story.&nbsp; I watched at TV documentary =
on Corvette<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>restoration.&nbsp; Similar situation =
where the competition is so keen, the<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>winners had=
 to go even further.&nbsp; This restorer was showing that the paint<br></di=
v><div dir=3D'ltr'>on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost=
 immediately.&nbsp; He<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>"perfected" that peel!&nbs=
p; He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>paint until after the bumpers were on.&nbsp; So the paint under the bump=
ers had<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>more orange peel. He perfected that as we=
ll.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=
=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Wit=
t via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'=
ltr'>wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'><br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; ?...e=
ven the judges can't agree...?<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before the=
y are certified<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; to judge? I have clothing th=
at some call off-white and others call slightly<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&=
gt; gray and yet I see a hint of green.&nbsp; As far as ?...no da swirls,? =
well only<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; if there were no swirls from the f=
actory.&nbsp; But then..., what is original?<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;=
 Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process<b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; they appeared. And the first time buyer never=
 sees the car until after<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; dealer prep. So, w=
hat is original?&nbsp; Will it get to the point that judges<br></div><div d=
ir=3D'ltr'>&gt; microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing,=
 test the tires<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; for 1960?s air? A while back=
 I recall reading about judging to the extent<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt=
; that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk<b=
r></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; fitting and that was deemed ?more original!?<=
br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;&nbsp;  I know=
 this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy=
. And the negative<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; side of that can be some =
are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>&gt; ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; *From:* phastphill--- =
via Tigers &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>&gt; *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM<br></div><div dir=3D'lt=
r'>&gt; *To:* <a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:blan=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> ; <a ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG<br></div><div d=
ir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; try that with healey ice blu=
e metallic...even the judges can't<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; agree...r=
ather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over<br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps ri=
ght....all it<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; takes is work....you can shave=
 in my paint job,all sanding with long board<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;=
 or short board...no da swirls<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div=
 dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; -----Original Message-----=
<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers &lt;<a yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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bject: [Tigers] BRG<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr=
'>&gt; A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys=
 had<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; the same brg shades, some darker ,some =
more blue, mixing was less an art<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; than today=
, but they all looked great!!&nbsp; Beau.<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt; __=
_____________________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D'ltr'>&gt=
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