Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rootes Paint code 86

From: Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:33:54 -0800

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I agree Jay.
Both cars are identical Dupont acrylic lacquer
replacement 86 from 1979-1992 (I sprayed
it myself).  Your dad probably matched the
original, which I see his is a MK1 like mine.
Mine was slightly darker and maybe a little
less milky.  I like the milk though!
Gary

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nk factory 86 is.  And when I put it next to the picture of my Tiger, I thin=
k the prior comments are true - mine is just a shade less milk, but still ha=
s some.
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rote:
>> Here is mine and another with the identical pretty correct
>> code 86 Forest Green.   Nice complex euro
>> color =F0=9F=98=80. Photo at Cars and Coffee Folsom, CA.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I agree Jay.<div>Both cars are identical Du=
pont acrylic lacquer</div><div>replacement 86 from 1979-1992 (I sprayed</div=
><div>it myself). &nbsp;Your dad probably matched the</div><div>original, wh=
ich I see his is a MK1 like mine.</div><div>Mine was slightly darker and may=
be a little</div><div>less milky. &nbsp;I like the milk though!</div><div>Ga=
ry<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;jay.laif=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I know that pictures vary by cam=
era, daylight, and computer screen.&nbsp; But I will say that the car in the=
 foreground looks exactly to me like what I think factory 86 is.&nbsp; And w=
hen I put it next to the picture of my Tiger, I think the prior comments are=
 true - mine is just a shade less milk, but still has some.</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 20=
19 at 6:19 PM Gary via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">t=
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e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">Here is mine and another with the identical pretty correct=
<br>
code 86 Forest Green.&nbsp; &nbsp;Nice complex euro<br>
color =F0=9F=98=80. Photo at Cars and Coffee Folsom, CA.<br>
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The rootes forests green is a murky colour when seen in clear sunlight.

The following photos are an original paint 86 MKI.... All the same car.. As
you can see the light its photographed in makes a big difference...but in
person on a clear day its a more muddy green

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> still has some.
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<div dir=3D"auto">The rootes forests green is a murky colour when seen in c=
lear sunlight.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The following p=
hotos are an original paint 86 MKI.... All the same car.. As you can see th=
e light its photographed in makes a big difference...but in person on a cle=
ar day its a more muddy green</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., 27 Dec. 2019, 10:34 Gary via Tigers, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I agree Jay.<div>Both=
 cars are identical Dupont acrylic lacquer</div><div>replacement 86 from 19=
79-1992 (I sprayed</div><div>it myself).=C2=A0 Your dad probably matched th=
e</div><div>original, which I see his is a MK1 like mine.</div><div>Mine wa=
s slightly darker and maybe a little</div><div>less milky.=C2=A0 I like the=
 milk though!</div><div>Gary<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:25 =
PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
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uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"=
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what I think factory 86 is.=C2=A0 And when I put it next to the picture of =
my Tiger, I think the prior comments are true - mine is just a shade less m=
ilk, but still has some.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
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4,204);padding-left:1ex">Here is mine and another with the identical pretty=
 correct<br>
code 86 Forest Green.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Nice complex euro<br>
color =F0=9F=98=80. Photo at Cars and Coffee Folsom, CA.<br>
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:48:35 -0800

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I=E2=80=99m glad someone else likes the color (86) too. There are blues =
(I believe 60=E2=80=99s-70=E2=80=99s Renaults), VW used a burnt orange =
not to long ago that seem to fall into a similar, slightly altered from =
the norm appearance as 86. To each their own for preference though I =
doubt 86 was a failed attempt by Rootes to replicate BRG. I=E2=80=99m =
thinking either they were trying to be different..., or they got a great =
deal on the color.

Regarding my comment about NTSC (National Television Standards =
Committee) because of the way old school TV worked it was often joking =
referred to as =E2=80=9CNever Twice (the) Same Color.

From: Gary via Tigers=20
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To: Jay Laifman=20
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rootes Paint code 86

I agree Jay.=20

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Tiger, I think the prior comments are true - mine is just a shade less =
milk, but still has some.

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<DIV>Both cars are identical Dupont acrylic lacquer</DIV>
<DIV>replacement 86 from 1979-1992 (I sprayed</DIV>
<DIV>it myself).&nbsp; Your dad probably matched the</DIV>
<DIV>original, which I see his is a MK1 like mine.</DIV>
<DIV>Mine was slightly darker and maybe a little</DIV>
<DIV>less milky.&nbsp; I like the milk though!</DIV>
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To get the Correct #86 take out the hood latch pan and turn it over, then
use polishing compound to clean it. Next take it to an automotive paint
store and have them match the green. We did this on my S2 for #30 sea crest
green, it took them 10 spray outs to get it right, but it IS right.
   Jeff

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> The following photos are an original paint 86 MKI.... All the same car..
> As you can see the light its photographed in makes a big difference...but
> in person on a clear day its a more muddy green
>
>
>
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>> I know that pictures vary by camera, daylight, and computer screen.  But
>> I will say that the car in the foreground looks exactly to me like what =
I
>> think factory 86 is.  And when I put it next to the picture of my Tiger,=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">To get the Correct #86 take out the hood latch pan and tur=
n it over, then use polishing compound to clean it. Next take it to an auto=
motive paint store and have them match the green. We did this on my S2 for =
#30 sea crest green, it took them 10 spray outs to get it right, but it IS =
right.<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Jeff</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 9:52 PM michael k=
ing via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">The roote=
s forests green is a murky colour when seen in clear sunlight.<div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The following photos are an original paint=
 86 MKI.... All the same car.. As you can see the light its photographed in=
 makes a big difference...but in person on a clear day its a more muddy gre=
en</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., 27=
 Dec. 2019, 10:34 Gary via Tigers, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-w=
idth:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I agree Jay.<div>Both cars are identical Dupon=
t acrylic lacquer</div><div>replacement 86 from 1979-1992 (I sprayed</div><=
div>it myself).=C2=A0 Your dad probably matched the</div><div>original, whi=
ch I see his is a MK1 like mine.</div><div>Mine was slightly darker and may=
be a little</div><div>less milky.=C2=A0 I like the milk though!</div><div>G=
ary<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Jay Laifman &lt;<a hr=
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pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I know that pictures=
 vary by camera, daylight, and computer screen.=C2=A0 But I will say that t=
he car in the foreground looks exactly to me like what I think factory 86 i=
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0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left=
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 identical pretty correct<br>
code 86 Forest Green.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Nice complex euro<br>
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