Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green

From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:55:29 -0800

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I think Darrell nailed it!  I think my dad's/my Tiger is that color, with
some, but not all of the milk removed.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers <
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> FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a
> nice
> "forest green" and dumped some milk in it.  Not pretty.
> I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.  To me it embodies the
> true
> spirit of a British Racing Green.  As it happens my street Tiger is this
> color.  Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on to
> this
> color.
> Darrell
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)
>    2. Re: Forest Green (Stu)
>    3. Re: Forest Green (Allan Ballard)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think Darrell nailed it!=C2=A0 I think my dad&#39;s/my T=
iger is that color, with some, but not all of the milk removed.<div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tige=
rs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">FWIW, =
to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a nice<br>
&quot;forest green&quot; and dumped some milk in it.=C2=A0 Not pretty.<br>
I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.=C2=A0 To me it embodies th=
e true<br>
spirit of a British Racing Green.=C2=A0 As it happens my street Tiger is th=
is<br>
color.=C2=A0 Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on t=
o this<br>
color.<br>
Darrell <br>
<br>
Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: Forest Green (Stu)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A03. Re: Forest Green (Allan Ballard)<br>
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From: Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:18:32 -0800

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BTW, Another thing I learned from the Brits, there is no standard for =
=E2=80=9CBritish Racing Green=E2=80=9D (BRG) in the period of our =
cars=E2=80=A6 probably the same today.  Look at Aston Martin=E2=80=99s =
BRG. It is a relatively light, metallic green with a hint of blue.  Then =
the Lister BRG, Lotus=E2=80=99 BRG, Morgan=E2=80=99s BRG (a color match =
for John Deere tractor green), and Rootes Group=E2=80=99s Forest Green. =
They are all very different greens.

=20

From: Jay Laifman [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:55 PM
To: Darrell Mountjoy <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green

=20

I think Darrell nailed it!  I think my dad's/my Tiger is that color, =
with some, but not all of the milk removed.

=20

=20

=20

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers =

FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a =
nice
"forest green" and dumped some milk in it.  Not pretty.
I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.  To me it embodies the =
true
spirit of a British Racing Green.  As it happens my street Tiger is this
color.  Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on to =
this
color.
Darrell=20

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>BTW, Another thing I learned from the Brits, there is no standard for =
=E2=80=9CBritish Racing Green=E2=80=9D (BRG) in the period of our =
cars=E2=80=A6 probably the same today. =C2=A0Look at Aston =
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Jay Laifman [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, =
December 26, 2019 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Darrell Mountjoy =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger's Den =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Forest =
green<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think =
Darrell nailed it!&nbsp; I think my dad's/my Tiger is that color, with =
some, but not all of the milk removed.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest =
Green looks like someone took a nice<br>&quot;forest green&quot; and =
dumped some milk in it.&nbsp; Not pretty.<br>I much prefer the 1971-1972 =
Jaguar Racing Green.&nbsp; To me it embodies the true<br>spirit of a =
British Racing Green.&nbsp; As it happens my street Tiger is =
this<br>color.&nbsp; Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just =
about spot-on to this<br>color.<br>Darrell <br><br>Today's =
Topics:<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;1. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)<br>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;2. Re: Forest Green (Stu)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;3. Re: Forest Green =
(Allan =
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:23:00 -0800

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My dad always preferred the Jaguar XK BRG, which he described as so dark
you'd almost think it was black.  Of course, he had a black XK120.  So I
guess he'd know.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 2:18 PM Darrell Mountjoy <[email-masked]> wrote:

> BTW, Another thing I learned from the Brits, there is no standard for
> =E2=80=9CBritish Racing Green=E2=80=9D (BRG) in the period of our cars=E2=
=80=A6 probably the same
> today.  Look at Aston Martin=E2=80=99s BRG. It is a relatively light, met=
allic
> green with a hint of blue.  Then the Lister BRG, Lotus=E2=80=99 BRG, Morg=
an=E2=80=99s BRG
> (a color match for John Deere tractor green), and Rootes Group=E2=80=99s =
Forest
> Green. They are all very different greens.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jay Laifman [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:55 PM
> *To:* Darrell Mountjoy <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Forest green
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">My dad always preferred the Jaguar XK BRG, which he descri=
bed as so dark you&#39;d almost think it was black.=C2=A0 Of course, he had=
 a black XK120.=C2=A0 So I guess he&#39;d know.</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 2:18=
 PM Darrell Mountjoy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_5292423406003945955WordSection1">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">BTW, Another thing I learned from the Brits,=
 there is no standard for =E2=80=9CBritish Racing Green=E2=80=9D (BRG) in t=
he period of our cars=E2=80=A6 probably the same today.=C2=A0 Look at Aston=
 Martin=E2=80=99s BRG. It is a relatively light, metallic green with a hint=
 of blue.=C2=A0 Then the Lister BRG, Lotus=E2=80=99 BRG, Morgan=E2=80=99s B=
RG (a color match for John Deere tractor green), and Rootes Group=E2=80=99s=
 Forest Green. They are all very different greens.<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f"> Jay Laifman [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 26, =
2019 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Darrell Mountjoy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dsmtjoy@c=
ox.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger&#39;s=
 Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Forest green<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">I think Darrell nailed it!=C2=A0 I think my dad&#39;s/my T=
iger is that color, with some, but not all of the milk removed.<u></u><u></=
u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 26, 2=
019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;bord=
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pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12pt">FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like so=
meone took a nice<br>&quot;forest green&quot; and dumped some milk in it.=
=C2=A0 Not pretty.<br>I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.=C2=
=A0 To me it embodies the true<br>spirit of a British Racing Green.=C2=A0 A=
s it happens my street Tiger is this<br>color.=C2=A0 Also, all three Sunbea=
m Lister Tigers are just about spot-on to this<br>color.<br>Darrell <br><br=
>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)<=
br>=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: Forest Green (Stu)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A03. Re: Forest Gre=
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From: Joe Parlanti via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:43:45 -0500

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I'm with Darrell as well. I started looking at the Jaguar colors for my car
and settled on the 2001 Jaguar BRG that was used on the XK8s and XJRs of
that era. It sometimes looks a little too green in bright sunlight but in
all other lighting conditions it's a fantastic color in my book.

Joe

         16048 Copen Meadow Dr

        North Potomac, MD 20878

             Cell - 410-599-5475

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Darrell Mountjoy
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Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 4:34 PM

To: [email-masked]

Subject: [Tigers] Forest green

FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a nice
"forest green" and dumped some milk in it.  Not pretty.

I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.  To me it embodies the true
spirit of a British Racing Green.  As it happens my street Tiger is this
color.  Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on to this
color.

Darrell 

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Didn=E2=80=99t your father say it was original paint?
Rootes did change 86 over the years.
My MK1 was originally a little darker than the
later Simca(Chrysler) code 86 (at least the
Dupont replacement ).  Both are real close
though, Paul Reisentz used to call it
 =E2=80=9Cmuddy=E2=80=9D.  I call it a complex Euro color.=20
  I much prefer it to a pure green
like Jaguar.  To each his own ....
Gary

Sent from my iPhone

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ome, but not all of the milk removed.
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>> FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a n=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Didn=E2=80=99t your father say it was origi=
nal paint?<div>Rootes did change 86 over the years.</div><div>My MK1 was ori=
ginally a little darker than the</div><div>later Simca(Chrysler) code 86 (at=
 least the</div><div>Dupont replacement ). &nbsp;Both are real close</div><d=
iv>though, Paul Reisentz used to call it</div><div>&nbsp;=E2=80=9Cmuddy=E2=80=
=9D. &nbsp;I call it a complex Euro color.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; I much pre=
fer it to a pure green</div><div>like Jaguar. &nbsp;To each his own ....</di=
v><div>Gary</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Jay L=
aifman via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I t=
hink Darrell nailed it!&nbsp; I think my dad's/my Tiger is that color, with s=
ome, but not all of the milk removed.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, De=
c 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">FWIW, to me, the color code *86 Foires=
t Green looks like someone took a nice<br>
"forest green" and dumped some milk in it.&nbsp; Not pretty.<br>
I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.&nbsp; To me it embodies the=
 true<br>
spirit of a British Racing Green.&nbsp; As it happens my street Tiger is thi=
s<br>
color.&nbsp; Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on to=
 this<br>
color.<br>
Darrell <br>
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Today's Topics:<br>
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&nbsp; &nbsp;1. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;2. Re: Forest Green (Stu)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;3. Re: Forest Green (Allan Ballard)<br>
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My dad did think it was correct.  I know he repainted the car.  Under the
hard top cover it is still the original green.  I haven't looked under
there in forever.  Next time I lower the car I'll check it out (it's on a
lift).  And don't get me wrong, I do love it.  The car looks great.  It's
just that it's a bit more dry English than the other BRGs - and I do think
his/mine is a shade less milky or muddy than I've seen before as stock.  I
know that's a very bad sensor!  I've attached a picture in very bright sun,
in case we can send pictures in this group.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM Gary <[email-masked]> wrote:

>  =E2=80=9Cmuddy=E2=80=9D.  I call it a complex Euro color.
> On Dec 26, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My dad did think it was correct.=C2=A0 I know he repainted=
 the car.=C2=A0 Under the hard top cover it is still the original green.=C2=
=A0 I haven&#39;t looked under there in forever.=C2=A0 Next time I lower th=
e car I&#39;ll check it out (it&#39;s on a lift).=C2=A0 And don&#39;t get m=
e wrong, I do love it.=C2=A0 The car looks great.=C2=A0 It&#39;s just that =
it&#39;s a bit more dry English than the other BRGs - and I do think his/mi=
ne is a shade less milky or muddy than I&#39;ve seen before as stock.=C2=A0=
 I know that&#39;s a very bad sensor!=C2=A0 I&#39;ve attached a picture in =
very bright sun, in case we can send pictures in this group.</div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26,=
 2019 at 5:29 PM Gary &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">garywi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Didn=E2=80=99t your father say it was or=
iginal paint?<div>Rootes did change 86 over the years.</div><div>My MK1 was=
 originally a little darker than the</div><div>later Simca(Chrysler) code 8=
6 (at least the</div><div>Dupont replacement ).=C2=A0 Both are real close</=
div><div>though, Paul Reisentz used to call it</div><div>=C2=A0=E2=80=9Cmud=
dy=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I call it a complex Euro color.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 I=
 much prefer it to a pure green</div><div>like Jaguar.=C2=A0 To each his ow=
n ....</div><div>Gary</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhon=
e</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 26, 2019, at 1=
:55 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I think Darrell nailed it!=C2=A0 I think my dad&#39;s/my Tiger is that col=
or, with some, but not all of the milk removed.<div><br></div><div><br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Darrell Mountjoy via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">FW=
IW, to me, the color code *86 Foirest Green looks like someone took a nice<=
br>
&quot;forest green&quot; and dumped some milk in it.=C2=A0 Not pretty.<br>
I much prefer the 1971-1972 Jaguar Racing Green.=C2=A0 To me it embodies th=
e true<br>
spirit of a British Racing Green.=C2=A0 As it happens my street Tiger is th=
is<br>
color.=C2=A0 Also, all three Sunbeam Lister Tigers are just about spot-on t=
o this<br>
color.<br>
Darrell <br>
<br>
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<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Forest Green (Jay Laifman)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: Forest Green (Stu)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A03. Re: Forest Green (Allan Ballard)<br>
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From: Chris Thompson via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 21:35:10 -0500

When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and 
John Deere yellow).  It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I 
received it 30 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us 
got pinged any points - I can't swear by the others.  I can only swear I 
wasn't pinged any points at the concours for what I know is not the 
stock color.

But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for 
original color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this 
point few green cars still have this original shade.

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:41:14 -0500

Chris
	These are all good points.

I started this subject mostly because all the paint codes we have for the Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint codes.
The color atlas at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.
The CA280 paint code for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color mix the paint store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a color match.

I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for all the Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up their paint or more.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Chris Thompson via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:35 PM
To: Jay Laifman <[email-masked]>; Gary <[email-masked]>
Cc: Darrell Mountjoy <[email-masked]>; Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green

When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John Deere yellow).  It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it 30 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us got pinged any points - I can't swear by the others.  I can only swear I wasn't pinged any points at the concours for what I know is not the stock color.

But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few green cars still have this original shade.

B382000331

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When I did the restoration of my car I went to SAOCA to get a disks that
was color copies of the paint codes I needed.  These disks were a match to
colors taken from portions of the cars that had never been exposed to sun.
I have a disk for Seafoam Grey and Commodore Blue.  They are perfect
matches to the original colors.

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> I started this subject mostly because all the paint codes we have for the
> Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint codes.
> The CA280 paint code for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a
> color mix the paint store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for
> a color match.
>
> I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for all the
> Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up their
> paint or more.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> Cc: Darrell Mountjoy <[email-masked]>; Tiger's Den <[email-masked]
> >
> When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John
> Deere yellow).  It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it
> 30 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us got pinged any
> points - I can't swear by the others.  I can only swear I wasn't pinged any
> points at the concours for what I know is not the stock color.
>
> But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original
> color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few
> green cars still have this original shade.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;ti=
mes new roman&quot;,serif">When I did the restoration of my car I went to S=
AOCA to get a disks that was color copies of the paint codes I needed.=C2=
=A0 These disks were a match to colors taken from portions of the cars that=
 had never been exposed to sun.=C2=A0 I have a disk for Seafoam Grey and Co=
mmodore Blue.=C2=A0 They are perfect matches to the original=C2=A0colors.=
=C2=A0<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 7:41 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Chris<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 These are all good points.<br>
<br>
I started this subject mostly because all the paint codes we have for the R=
ootes paints do not compute into today&#39;s paint codes.<br>
The color atlas at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.<br>
The CA280 paint code for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color=
 mix the paint store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a col=
or match.<br>
<br>
I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for all the =
Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up their pain=
t or more.<br>
<br>
Ron Fraser<br>
<br>
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via Tigers<br>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green<br>
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When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John D=
eere yellow).=C2=A0 It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received=
 it 30 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us got pinged a=
ny points - I can&#39;t swear by the others.=C2=A0 I can only swear I wasn&=
#39;t pinged any points at the concours for what I know is not the stock co=
lor.<br>
<br>
But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original =
color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few gree=
n cars still have this original shade.<br>
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Evening folks: 

I am thinking that most of you might read this as I
have been following the posts regarding Rootes paint codes. Centered
around Code 86, Forest Green, however this applies to most of the paint
they used in the 60's. 

I have a RHD Alpine of which I am the second
owner/custodian, it too is paint code 86 and has not been painted. I
noted the discussion about the milky color that Sunbeams seemed to
attained about the time we acquired them. I had shown my 1965 RHD Alpine
to the painter that works on my vintage cars and any newer owns. His
first comment was the paint had faded because it was alkaline based.
This caused the 'milky' look as the paint aged. Painting has progressed
and colors have become more vibrant and true, the GS280 code I used to
restore my 1966 tiger is true to Rootes code 86 as I know the research
that went into to matching it along with the matching paint chip I
personally researched when looking for paint. I know the 2 DuPont reps
that completed the research using old paint charts and codes since they
had them from the 60's. I believe at lease part of the key is the
alkaline based since the fade factor was directly impacted by sunlight,
something that has long since been taken care of by new paint
compositions. 

It is good to retain the history of our historic
vehicles. 

Jim McLaughlin 

B382000175 LRXFE 

1965 RHD Alpine 

1967
LHD Alpine 35,500 original miles, classic sound! 

On 12/29/19, Ron
Fraser via Tigers wrote: 

> Chris
> These are all good points. I
started this subject mostly because all the paint codes we have for the
Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint codes.
> The color atlas
at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.
> The CA280 paint code
for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color mix the paint
store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a color match.

> I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for
all the Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up
their paint or more.
> -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
via Tigers
> To: Jay Laifman
<[email-masked]>; Gary <[email-masked]>
> Cc: Darrell
Mountjoy <[email-masked]>; Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
> 
> When I repainted my Lotus
Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John Deere yellow). It was
very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it 30 years ago or so.
I should not have said that none of us got pinged any points - I can't
swear by the others. I can only swear I wasn't pinged any points at the
concours for what I know is not the stock color.
> But what my
original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original color
code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few green
cars still have this original shade.
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<p>Evening folks:</p>
<p>I am thinking that most of you might read this as I have been following =
the posts regarding Rootes paint codes.&nbsp; Centered around Code 86, Fore=
st Green, however this applies to most of the paint they used in the 60's=
=2E&nbsp; </p>
<p>I have a RHD Alpine of which I am the second owner/custodian, it too is =
paint code 86 and has not been painted.&nbsp; I noted the discussion about =
the milky color that Sunbeams seemed to attained about the time we acquired=
 them.&nbsp; I had shown my 1965 RHD Alpine to the painter that works on my=
 vintage cars and any newer owns.&nbsp; His first comment was the paint had=
 faded because it was alkaline based.&nbsp; This caused the 'milky' look as=
 the paint aged.&nbsp; Painting has progressed and colors have become more =
vibrant and true, the GS280 code I used to restore my 1966 tiger is true to=
 Rootes code 86 as I know the research that went into to matching it along =
with the matching paint chip I personally researched when looking for paint=
=2E&nbsp; I know the 2 DuPont reps that completed the research using old pa=
int charts and codes since they had them from the 60's.&nbsp; I believe at =
lease part of the key is the alkaline based since the fade factor was direc=
tly impacted by sunlight, something that has long since been taken care of =
by new paint compositions.</p>
<p>It is good to retain the history of our historic vehicles.</p>
<p>Jim McLaughlin</p>
<p>B382000175 LRXFE</p>
<p>1965 RHD Alpine</p>
<p>1967 LHD Alpine 35,500 original miles, classic sound!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<p>On 12/29/19, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:</p>
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<pre>Chris
	These are all good points.  I started this subject mostly because all the =
paint codes we have for the Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint=
 codes.
The color atlas at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.
The CA280 paint code for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color=
 mix the paint store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a col=
or match.

t or more.

Ron Fraser

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[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Chris Thompson via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:35 PM
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utox.team.net</a>&gt;
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green

When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John D=
eere yellow).  It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it 3=
0 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us got pinged any po=
ints - I can't swear by the others.  I can only swear I wasn't pinged any p=
oints at the concours for what I know is not the stock color.

But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original =
color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few gree=
n cars still have this original shade.

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