Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid

From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:31:18 -0500

The starter solenoid temporarily supplies 12 volts to the. Oil while the starter is cranking. 
As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is disconnected and the power to the coil is via the ballast resistor. 
It sounds like you either have a bad ballast resistor or broken wiring to the ballast resistor. 
Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the resistor and see if it starts. If it does start you have a bad resistor. 
And if that does not work, start looking for lack of 12 volts INTO. The ballast resistor. 

From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home

> On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a question.  When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns over and fires up.  But as soon as I let go of the key so that it returns to the run position it dies.  It seems like the ignition system is only getting power when the key is in the start position. 
> 
> I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.  The white/blue wire from the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that there should always be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.  Is this correct?  I'm only getting the 12V on this line when the key is in the start position.  
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:31:18 -0500

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:36:34 -0500

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Joe

                NO =E2=80=93 White / blue wire is the start position =
only =E2=80=93 feeds 12v to the coil =E2=80=93 no voltage when released

=20

White wire from ignition switch #2 post feeds through the Tach to the =
ballast resistor to the coil =E2=80=93 this is the run voltage.

=20

Hope that helps

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joe Brown via =
Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:20 PM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid

=20

Hey,

=20

I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a =
question.  When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns =
over and fires up.  But as soon as I let go of the key so that it =
returns to the run position it dies.  It seems like the ignition system =
is only getting power when the key is in the start position.=20

=20

I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.  The white/blue wire from =
the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that there =
should always be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.  =
Is this correct?  I'm only getting the 12V on this line when the key is =
in the start position. =20

=20

Any ideas?

=20

Thanks,

Joe Brown

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class=3DMsoNormal>White wire from ignition switch #2 post feeds through =
the Tach to the ballast resistor to the coil =E2=80=93 this is the run =
voltage.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hope that helps<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Brown via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:20 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tigers Den =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Starter =
Solenoid<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and =
I have a question.&nbsp; When I turn the key to the start position the =
engine turns over and fires up.&nbsp; But as soon as I let go of the key =
so that it returns to the run position it dies.&nbsp; It seems like the =
ignition system is only getting power when the key is in the start =
position.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.&nbsp; The =
white/blue wire from the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem =
to imply that there should always be 12V on this wire when the key is in =
the run position.&nbsp; Is this correct?&nbsp; I'm only getting the 12V =
on this line when the key is in the start =
position.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:29:24 -0600

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Thanks to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick replies.  They have
me on the right track now.  In my new wiring harness I have one white wire
that comes out of the harness behind the tach and I assumed it plugged into
the white wire (labeled "signal in") on the back of the tach.  My tach was
rebuilt by Nisonger and has the updated electronics.  I ohmed that wire out
and it is the one that goes to the ballast resistor.  So should I run a new
wire from the ignition switch to the tach and piggyback the ballast wire to
that?

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:31 PM Donald Antilla <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is disconnected an=
d
> the power to the coil is via the ballast resistor.
> Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the resistor
> and see if it starts. If it does start you have a bad resistor.
> > On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BF
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a
> question.  When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns ove=
r
> and fires up.  But as soon as I let go of the key so that it returns to t=
he
> run position it dies.  It seems like the ignition system is only getting
> power when the key is in the start position.
> >
> > I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.  The white/blue wire from
> the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that there
> should always be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.  I=
s
> this correct?  I'm only getting the 12V on this line when the key is in t=
he
> start position.
> > Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick re=
plies.=C2=A0 They have me on the right track now.=C2=A0 In my new wiring ha=
rness I have one white wire that comes out of the harness behind the tach a=
nd I assumed it plugged into the white wire (labeled &quot;signal in&quot;)=
 on the back of the tach.=C2=A0 My tach was rebuilt by Nisonger and has the=
 updated electronics.=C2=A0 I ohmed that wire out and it is the one that go=
es to the ballast resistor.=C2=A0 So should I run a new wire from the ignit=
ion switch to the tach and piggyback the ballast wire to that?=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at=
 3:31 PM Donald Antilla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The starter solenoid temporarily supplies =
12 volts to the. Oil while the starter is cranking. <br>
As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is disconnected and =
the power to the coil is via the ballast resistor. <br>
It sounds like you either have a bad ballast resistor or broken wiring to t=
he ballast resistor. <br>
Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the resistor and=
 see if it starts. If it does start you have a bad resistor. <br>
And if that does not work, start looking for lack of 12 volts INTO. The bal=
last resistor. <br>
<br>
>From Don&#39;s iPhone 203-592-8427<br>
Or 203-264-8301 home<br>
<br>
&gt; On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BF<br>
&gt; Hey,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;m trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a qu=
estion.=C2=A0 When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns ov=
er and fires up.=C2=A0 But as soon as I let go of the key so that it return=
s to the run position it dies.=C2=A0 It seems like the ignition system is o=
nly getting power when the key is in the start position. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;m a little confused by the wiring diagram.=C2=A0 The white/blue =
wire from the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that t=
here should always be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.=
=C2=A0 Is this correct?=C2=A0 I&#39;m only getting the 12V on this line whe=
n the key is in the start position.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Any ideas?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Joe Brown<br>
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