Subject: [Tigers] time to replace a conv. top

From: James Armstrong via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 22:14:32 +0000 (UTC)

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Hello all,
Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins tonn=
eau cover to a local installer of some repute.I made sure i bought a Robbin=
s as I thought it was the best.
Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's acquisition, bu=
t as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features present on=
 an original, (like the "dam=C2=A0 that runs under the windshield across th=
e dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The relief f=
or the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side by betwee=
n .75' and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between the steering=
=C2=A0 wheel and the windshield
The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.=C2=A0 Buyer beware !

Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time=
 our top frames this winter. Cost be damned. I'm sick of poor quality.
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #....
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Hello all,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"><br>Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins tonneau cover to a local installer of some repute.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the best.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's acquisition, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features present on an original, (like the "dam&nbsp; that runs under the windshield across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The relief for the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side by between .75' and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between the steering&nbsp; wheel and the windshield</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.&nbsp; Buyer beware !<br></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time our top frames this winter.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"> Cost be damned. I'm sick of poor quality.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;"><br></span></div>
</div>
<div class="aoldesktop_signature">
<div>Jim Armstrong</div>
<div>Mk 1A</div>
<div>382002083 LRXFE</div>
<div>Code 86</div>
<div>TAC #....</div>
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From: Jim B via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 16:44:09 -0700

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Wow, that is a bummer. One thing I still need is a new top! And that=E2=80=
=99s where I was planning on getting it.
Jim B.

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Hello all,
>=20
> Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins =
tonneau cover to a local installer of some repute.
> I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the best.
>=20
> Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's =
acquisition, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing =
features present on an original, (like the "dam  that runs under the =
windshield across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not =
symmetrical. The relief for the post by the side vent window was short =
on the drivers side by between .75' and 1 inch. This caused an =
unavoidable wrinkle between the steering  wheel and the windshield
>=20
> The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.  Buyer beware !
>=20
> Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to =
zero--time our top frames this winter.
> Cost be damned. I'm sick of poor quality.
>=20
> Jim Armstrong
> Mk 1A
> 382002083 LRXFE
> Code 86
> TAC #....
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Wow, =
that is a bummer. One thing I still need is a new top! And that=E2=80=99s =
where I was planning on getting it.<div class=3D"">Jim B.<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, =
James Armstrong via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"userEdit" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Hello all,</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Before I get =
into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins tonneau cover =
to a local installer of some repute.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">I made sure i bought a Robbins =
as I thought it was the best.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Turns out, they may have been =
the best before the company's acquisition, but as the installer pointed =
out, not only was is missing features present on an original, (like the =
"dam&nbsp; that runs under the windshield across the dash to to channel =
water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The relief for the post by the =
side vent window was short on the drivers side by between .75' and 1 =
inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between the steering&nbsp; =
wheel and the windshield</span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">The best? Absolutely not. =
Further, stitching is wrong.&nbsp; Buyer beware !<br =
class=3D""></span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Now, who makes the best =
convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time our top frames this =
winter.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""> Cost be damned. I'm sick of =
poor quality.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div>
</div>
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<div class=3D"">Jim Armstrong</div>
<div class=3D"">Mk 1A</div>
<div class=3D"">382002083 LRXFE</div>
<div class=3D"">Code 86</div>
<div class=3D"">TAC #....</div>
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From: michael king via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 16:08:55 +0800

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Jim,

I hadn't seen an accurate copy of the tonneau. there were several versions
done, the originals in the "USA" didn't have a full "pocket" for the wheel
like the UK ones. The originals had the damn along the front as mentioned
and also had the large silver metal zippers (the name escapes me for now )
not black plastic. they also had a grey inside finish (per the original
soft tops) and they had a strap to secure the tonneau to the centre console
while driving.

Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I believe the correct
everflex style ones are being made in the Uk with the correct grey internal
finish. Not sure if they only do the tension rod style or the later velcro
or both.

MK

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins
> Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's acquisition,
> but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features present
> on an original, (like the "dam  that runs under the windshield across the
> dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The relief for
> the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side by between
> .75' and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between the steering
> wheel and the windshield
>
> Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jim,</div><div><br></div><div>I hadn&#39;t seen an ac=
curate=C2=A0copy of the tonneau. there were several versions done, the orig=
inals=C2=A0in the &quot;USA&quot; didn&#39;t have a full &quot;pocket&quot;=
 for the wheel like the UK ones. The originals had the damn along the front=
 as mentioned and also had the large silver metal zippers (the name escapes=
 me for now ) not black plastic. they also had a grey inside finish (per th=
e original soft tops) and they had a strap to secure the tonneau to the cen=
tre console while driving.</div><div><br></div><div>Re: soft top... do you =
want a factory correct top? I believe the correct everflex style ones are b=
eing made in the Uk with the correct grey internal finish. Not sure if they=
 only do the tension rod style or the later velcro or both.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>MK</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div><di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstron=
g via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
Hello all,</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
<br>Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend&#39;s ago I took a Robb=
ins tonneau cover to a local installer of some repute.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the best.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
Turns out, they may have been the best before the company&#39;s acquisition=
, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features presen=
t on an original, (like the &quot;dam=C2=A0 that runs under the windshield =
across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The=
 relief for the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side =
by between .75&#39; and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between =
the steering=C2=A0 wheel and the windshield</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.=C2=A0 Buyer beware !=
<br></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time=
 our top frames this winter.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
 Cost be damned. I&#39;m sick of poor quality.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Jim Armstrong</div>
<div>Mk 1A</div>
<div>382002083 LRXFE</div>
<div>Code 86</div>
<div>TAC #....</div>
</div>
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From: James Armstrong via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 18:54:08 +0000 (UTC)

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So, where do I get one of the "UK original style tops".? And if I deviate f=
rom original, what is available (cloth style, etc.) ?
Jim Armstrong
In a message dated 10/6/2019 4:09:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael.s.ki=
[email-masked] writes:

Jim,
I hadn't seen an accurate=C2=A0copy of the tonneau. there were several vers=
ions done, the originals=C2=A0in the "USA" didn't have a full "pocket" for =
the wheel like the UK ones. The originals had the damn along the front as m=
entioned and also had the large silver metal zippers (the name escapes me f=
or now ) not black plastic. they also had a grey inside finish (per the ori=
ginal soft tops) and they had a strap to secure the tonneau to the centre c=
onsole while driving.
Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I believe the correct ev=
erflex style ones are being made in the Uk with the correct grey internal f=
inish. Not sure if they only do the tension rod style or the later velcro o=
r both.
MK

On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:
Hello all,

Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time=
 our top frames this winter. Cost be damned. I'm sick of poor quality.
Jim ArmstrongMk 1A382002083 LRXFECode 86TAC #....__________________________=
_____________________

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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">So, where do I get one of the "UK original style tops".? And if I deviate from original, what is available (cloth style, etc.) ?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"><br></span></div>
</div>
In a message dated 10/6/2019 4:09:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email-masked] writes:
<div><br></div>
<div class="quotedReply">
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue 2px solid;">
<div id="yiv6307802302">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Jim,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I hadn't seen an accurate&nbsp;copy of the tonneau. there were several versions done, the originals&nbsp;in the "USA" didn't have a full "pocket" for the wheel like the UK ones. The originals had the damn along the front as mentioned and also had the large silver metal zippers (the name escapes me for now ) not black plastic. they also had a grey inside finish (per the original soft tops) and they had a strap to secure the tonneau to the centre console while driving.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I believe the correct everflex style ones are being made in the Uk with the correct grey internal finish. Not sure if they only do the tension rod style or the later velcro or both.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>MK</div>
<div class="yiv6307802302gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="yiv6307802302gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<blockquote>
<div>On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear="none">
<div>
<div>
<div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hello all,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br clear="none">Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins tonneau cover to a local installer of some repute.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the best.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's acquisition, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features present on an original, (like the "dam&nbsp; that runs under the windshield across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The relief for the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side by between .75' and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between the steering&nbsp; wheel and the windshield</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.&nbsp; Buyer beware !<br clear="none"></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time our top frames this winter.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> Cost be damned. I'm sick of poor quality.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: #ffffff;"><br></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Jim Armstrong</div>
<div>Mk 1A</div>
<div>382002083 LRXFE</div>
<div>Code 86</div>
<div>TAC #....</div>
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Jim,

 Ill try and get the factory top suplliers name it escapes me for now who
did the everflex ones.

Re the mohair and double duck amd canavs tops.. Various suplliers in uk and
usa... Though you seem to feel the robbins products have dropped in quality
lately.?

Id call and ask Rick (ss) or curt (cs) if they stock or order the correct
tops from the uk

On Mon., 7 Oct. 2019, 02:54 James Armstrong, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> So, where do I get one of the "UK original style tops".? And if I deviate
> from original, what is available (cloth style, etc.) ?
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Jim,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0I=
ll try and get the factory top suplliers name it escapes me for now who did=
 the everflex ones.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Re t=
he mohair and double duck amd canavs tops.. Various suplliers in uk and usa=
... Though you seem to feel the robbins products have dropped in quality la=
tely.?=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Id call and=
 ask Rick (ss) or curt (cs) if they stock or order the correct tops from th=
e uk=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., 7 Oct. 2019, 02:54 James Armstrong, &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#=
000000">
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:#000000">So, where do I get one of the &quot;UK original style tops&qu=
ot;.? And if I deviate from original, what is available (cloth style, etc.)=
 ?</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;c=
olor:#000000">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
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In a message dated 10/6/2019 4:09:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michae=
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<div>Jim,</div>
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<div>I hadn&#39;t seen an accurate=C2=A0copy of the tonneau. there were sev=
eral versions done, the originals=C2=A0in the &quot;USA&quot; didn&#39;t ha=
ve a full &quot;pocket&quot; for the wheel like the UK ones. The originals =
had the damn along the front as mentioned and also had the large silver met=
al zippers (the name escapes me for now ) not black plastic. they also had =
a grey inside finish (per the original soft tops) and they had a strap to s=
ecure the tonneau to the centre console while driving.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I believe the corre=
ct everflex style ones are being made in the Uk with the correct grey inter=
nal finish. Not sure if they only do the tension rod style or the later vel=
cro or both.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>MK</div>
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<div>On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=
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Hello all,</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
<br clear=3D"none">Before I get into the main topic, a few weekend&#39;s ag=
o I took a Robbins tonneau cover to a local installer of some repute.</span=
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the best.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
Turns out, they may have been the best before the company&#39;s acquisition=
, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing features presen=
t on an original, (like the &quot;dam=C2=A0 that runs under the windshield =
across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was not symmetrical. The=
 relief for the post by the side vent window was short on the drivers side =
by between .75&#39; and 1 inch. This caused an unavoidable wrinkle between =
the steering=C2=A0 wheel and the windshield</span></div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.=C2=A0 Buyer beware !=
<br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
Now, who makes the best convertible top. Gary Fish and I plan to zero--time=
 our top frames this winter.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">=
 Cost be damned. I&#39;m sick of poor quality.</span></div>
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Michael & Jim, thanks for the info. and the help. My Tiger didn=E2=80=99t =
have a top or a frame for that matter when I got it. The frame that I =
have is for a MKI with the tension cables that I bought on eBay a while =
back. I=E2=80=99m still on the fence about going original or with an =
upgraded material such as the canvass type. Mine is =E2=80=98personalized=E2=
=80=99 so, not a concours restoration. I=E2=80=99ll also check with Rick =
at SS. Robbins was my first choice before I read about the issues =
pointed out regarding the tonneau cover. I had thought of converting the =
cable system to a velcro type. Lot=E2=80=99s to think about.=20

Jim

> On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:38 PM, michael king via Tigers =
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> Jim,
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>  Ill try and get the factory top suplliers name it escapes me for now =
who did the everflex ones.
>=20
> Re the mohair and double duck amd canavs tops.. Various suplliers in =
uk and usa... Though you seem to feel the robbins products have dropped =
in quality lately.?=20
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> Id call and ask Rick (ss) or curt (cs) if they stock or order the =
correct tops from the uk =20
>=20
> On Mon., 7 Oct. 2019, 02:54 James Armstrong, <[email-masked] =
> So, where do I get one of the "UK original style tops".? And if I =
deviate from original, what is available (cloth style, etc.) ?
>=20
> Jim Armstrong
>=20
> In a message dated 10/6/2019 4:09:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, =
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> Jim,
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> I hadn't seen an accurate copy of the tonneau. there were several =
versions done, the originals in the "USA" didn't have a full "pocket" =
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escapes me for now ) not black plastic. they also had a grey inside =
finish (per the original soft tops) and they had a strap to secure the =
tonneau to the centre console while driving.
>=20
> Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I believe the =
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Michael &amp; Jim, thanks for the info. and the help. My =
Tiger didn=E2=80=99t have a top or a frame for that matter when I got =
it. The frame that I have is for a MKI with the tension cables that I =
bought on eBay a while back. I=E2=80=99m still on the fence about going =
original or with an upgraded material such as the canvass type. Mine is =
=E2=80=98personalized=E2=80=99 so, not a concours restoration. I=E2=80=99l=
l also check with Rick at SS. Robbins was my first choice before I read =
about the issues pointed out regarding the tonneau cover. I had thought =
of converting the cable system to a velcro type. Lot=E2=80=99s to think =
about.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jim<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:38 PM, michael king via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Jim,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">&nbsp;Ill try and get the factory top suplliers =
name it escapes me for now who did the everflex ones.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Re the mohair and double duck amd canavs tops.. Various =
suplliers in uk and usa... Though you seem to feel the robbins products =
have dropped in quality lately.?&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Id call and =
ask Rick (ss) or curt (cs) if they stock or order the correct tops from =
the uk&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., 7 =
Oct. 2019, 02:54 James Armstrong, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">So, where do I get one of the =
"UK original style tops".? And if I deviate from original, what is =
available (cloth style, etc.) ?</span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div>
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In a message dated 10/6/2019 4:09:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> writes:
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:blue =
2px solid" class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">Jim,</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">I hadn't seen an accurate&nbsp;copy of the tonneau. =
there were several versions done, the originals&nbsp;in the "USA" didn't =
have a full "pocket" for the wheel like the UK ones. The originals had =
the damn along the front as mentioned and also had the large silver =
metal zippers (the name escapes me for now ) not black plastic. they =
also had a grey inside finish (per the original soft tops) and they had =
a strap to secure the tonneau to the centre console while driving.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">Re: soft top... do you want a factory correct top? I =
believe the correct everflex style ones are being made in the Uk with =
the correct grey internal finish. Not sure if they only do the tension =
rod style or the later velcro or both.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D"">MK</div>
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#cccccc;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, James Armstrong via Tigers =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D"">Hello all,</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">Before I get into the main =
topic, a few weekend's ago I took a Robbins tonneau cover to a local =
installer of some repute.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D"">I made sure i bought a Robbins as I thought it was the =
best.</span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D"">Turns out, they may have been the best before the company's =
acquisition, but as the installer pointed out, not only was is missing =
features present on an original, (like the "dam&nbsp; that runs under =
the windshield across the dash to to channel water) but worse, it was =
not symmetrical. The relief for the post by the side vent window was =
short on the drivers side by between .75' and 1 inch. This caused an =
unavoidable wrinkle between the steering&nbsp; wheel and the =
windshield</span></div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
<div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" =
class=3D"">The best? Absolutely not. Further, stitching is wrong.&nbsp; =
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