Subject: [Tigers] tranny

From: "Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 22:02:15 +0000 (UTC)

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Members--I inadvertently put synthetic fluid in my=C2=A0 toploader (66 tige=
r) and now it won't go into third or fourth easily as before.=C2=A0 I have =
renewed with the correct fluid for the third time now with=C2=A0 several hu=
ndred miles=C2=A0 to no=C2=A0 avail.=C2=A0 Any other flushes recommended or=
 do I have the tranny rebuilt?=C2=A0 Another question is can the tranny be =
taken out without=C2=A0 the engine being removed??? I=C2=A0 believe the syn=
chros being brass have absorbed the slick stuff to disallow them stopping v=
ery fast. Hoping for some wise advise as you all have come thru for me in t=
he past very nicely.=C2=A0 Thanking in advance.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rts=
[email-masked]

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:36:00 -0400

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Russ

                Have you checked the shifter forks alignment?   Workshop =
Manual, section E, Page 4.

=20

Yes, the transmission can be removed without taking the engine out but =
still an involve procedure.

=20

I had help with all this at a friend=E2=80=99s garage.

Removed bonnet

Drained coolant

Removed radiator

Remove shifter

Remove the drive shaft

Disconnect clutch slave

Supported and move engine forward with engine hoist=E2=80=93 this =
requires disconnecting all the normal parts to allow this

Remove tranny bolts

Remove transmission

Put engine back in position

Repeat to install transmission

=20

I may have missed some steps and order but you get the idea.

I believe others have stated that you can just pull the transmission out =
and that may very well be but I thought it was too tight for that.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy =
C. via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:02 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] tranny

=20

Members--I inadvertently put synthetic fluid in my  toploader (66 tiger) =
and now it won't go into third or fourth easily as before.  I have =
renewed with the correct fluid for the third time now with  several =
hundred miles  to no  avail.  Any other flushes recommended or do I have =
the tranny rebuilt?  Another question is can the tranny be taken out =
without  the engine being removed??? I  believe the synchros being brass =
have absorbed the slick stuff to disallow them stopping very fast. =
Hoping for some wise advise as you all have come thru for me in the past =
very nicely.  Thanking in advance.     [email-masked] =

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class=3DMsoNormal>Russ<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Have you checked the shifter forks =
alignment?=C2=A0=C2=A0 Workshop Manual, section E, Page =
4.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, the transmission can be removed without taking =
the engine out but still an involve procedure.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had help =
with all this at a friend=E2=80=99s garage.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Removed bonnet<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Drained coolant<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Removed radiator<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Remove shifter<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Remove the drive shaft<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Disconnect clutch slave<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Supported and move engine forward with engine =
hoist=E2=80=93 this requires disconnecting all the normal parts to allow =
this<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Remove tranny =
bolts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Remove =
transmission<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Put engine back in =
position<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Repeat to install =
transmission<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I may have missed some steps and order but you get the =
idea.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I believe others have stated =
that you can just pull the transmission out and that may very well be =
but I thought it was too tight for that.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy =
C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:02 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
tranny<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Members--I =
inadvertently put synthetic fluid in my&nbsp; toploader (66 tiger) and =
now it won't go into third or fourth easily as before.&nbsp; I have =
renewed with the correct fluid for the third time now with&nbsp; several =
hundred miles&nbsp; to no&nbsp; avail.&nbsp; Any other flushes =
recommended or do I have the tranny rebuilt?&nbsp; Another question is =
can the tranny be taken out without&nbsp; the engine being removed??? =
I&nbsp; believe the synchros being brass have absorbed the slick stuff =
to disallow them stopping very fast. Hoping for some wise advise as you =
all have come thru for me in the past very nicely.&nbsp; Thanking in =
advance.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><o:p></o:p></s=
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From: Tom Parker via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 10:46:26 -0400

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Re: transmission: This from experience: If you're going to pull the
transmission work carefully and THINK before you hurt yourself. Best move
(imo) is as Ron described above.

Doug Jennings ( I think it was Doug the younger...) posted a year or do
back that the transmission, when unbolted (remove shifter, etc.) Can be
removed by rotating the transmission 90 degrees.
and moving it back 'till the front shaft clears the bellhousing.

PLEASE PLEASE use a transmission jack / cradle if you choose to do this. It
can fall. You can be hurt.

Tom '67 Mark 2

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
wrote:

> Russ
>
>                 Have you checked the shifter forks alignment?   Workshop
> Yes, the transmission can be removed without taking the engine out but
> Supported and move engine forward with engine hoist=E2=80=93 this require=
s
> disconnecting all the normal parts to allow this
>
> Remove tranny bolts
>
> Remove transmission
>
> I believe others have stated that you can just pull the transmission out
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Russ and
> Tammy C. via Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:02 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [Tigers] tranny
>
>
>
> Members--I inadvertently put synthetic fluid in my  toploader (66 tiger)
> and now it won't go into third or fourth easily as before.  I have renewe=
d
> with the correct fluid for the third time now with  several hundred miles
> to no  avail.  Any other flushes recommended or do I have the tranny
> rebuilt?  Another question is can the tranny be taken out without  the
> engine being removed??? I  believe the synchros being brass have absorbed
> the slick stuff to disallow them stopping very fast. Hoping for some wise
> advise as you all have come thru for me in the past very nicely.  Thankin=
g
> in advance.     [email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Re: transmission: This from experience: If you&#39;re goin=
g to pull the transmission work carefully and THINK before you hurt yoursel=
f. Best move (imo) is as Ron described above.<div><br></div><div>Doug Jenni=
ngs ( I think it was Doug the younger...) posted a year or do back that the=
 transmission, when unbolted (remove shifter, etc.) Can be removed by rotat=
ing the transmission 90 degrees.</div><div>and moving it back &#39;till the=
 front shaft clears the bellhousing.</div><div><br></div><div>PLEASE PLEASE=
 use a transmission jack / cradle if you choose to do this. It can fall. Yo=
u can be hurt.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom &#39;67 Mark 2</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep=
 12, 2019 at 7:36 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;b=
order-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-395286183146715935WordSection1"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Russ<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Have you checked the shifter forks alignment?=C2=A0=C2=A0 Worksho=
p Manual, section E, Page 4.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, the transmission can be remov=
ed without taking the engine out but still an involve procedure.<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">I had help with all this at a friend=E2=80=99s garage.<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Removed bonnet<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Drained coolant<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Removed radiator<=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Remove shifter<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Remove the drive shaft<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Disconnect clutch slave<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sup=
ported and move engine forward with engine hoist=E2=80=93 this requires dis=
connecting all the normal parts to allow this<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Remove tranny bolts<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Remo=
ve transmission<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Put engine back in =
position<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Repeat to install transmis=
sion<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">I may have missed some steps and order but you get the ide=
a.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe others have stated tha=
t you can just pull the transmission out and that may very well be but I th=
ought it was too tight for that.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top=
-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, Septem=
ber 12, 2019 6:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] tr=
anny<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,sans-serif">Members--I inadvertently put synthetic fluid in=
 my=C2=A0 toploader (66 tiger) and now it won&#39;t go into third or fourth=
 easily as before.=C2=A0 I have renewed with the correct fluid for the thir=
d time now with=C2=A0 several hundred miles=C2=A0 to no=C2=A0 avail.=C2=A0 =
Any other flushes recommended or do I have the tranny rebuilt?=C2=A0 Anothe=
r question is can the tranny be taken out without=C2=A0 the engine being re=
moved??? I=C2=A0 believe the synchros being brass have absorbed the slick s=
tuff to disallow them stopping very fast. Hoping for some wise advise as yo=
u all have come thru for me in the past very nicely.=C2=A0 Thanking in adva=
nce.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></d=
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