Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield install Issues (Nothing new, right?)

From: Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:44:42 -0700

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Stu,=20
It sounds like you are doing it right.
I would pull it out and try again though.
I say that because of the last one I put in.
It was brand new from Vic British OEM XXX.
It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.
But, the first cold night in my not so cold
California, one of the laminations in the lower
corner cracked.  I can only think that I left it
a little too stressed on one side.
Gary=20

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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>=20
> We installed the new windshield into the frame this weekend.  Top and bott=
om seem OK, but on one side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge on t=
he frame.  The other side seemed ok.
>=20
> The frame is off the car, on my bench.  We started by centering the windsh=
ield as best we could judge, then started at the top center to lift the gask=
et over the lip, working our way across the top and down the sides.  One sid=
e didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.   Still the one s=
ide just didn't seem right.
>=20
> How did you guys do it?  Start by getting one side in and working across? T=
op to bottom?  Bottom to top? =20
>=20
> And a trial fitting of some of the SS trim makes it look like that's going=
 to be a lot of fun, too.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Stu,&nbsp;<div>It sounds like you are doing=
 it right.</div><div>I would pull it out and try again though.</div><div>I s=
ay that because of the last one I put in.</div><div>It was brand new from Vi=
c British OEM XXX.</div><div>It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.</div><di=
v>But, the first cold night in my not so cold</div><div>California, one of t=
he laminations in the lower</div><div>corner cracked. &nbsp;I can only think=
 that I left it</div><div>a little too stressed on one side.</div><div>Gary&=
nbsp;</div><div><br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from=
 my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Ti=
gers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">We installed th=
e new windshield into the frame this weekend.&nbsp; Top and bottom seem OK, b=
ut on one side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge on the frame.&nbs=
p; The other side seemed ok.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">The frame is off the car, on my bench.&nbsp; We started by centering the w=
indshield as best we could judge, then started at the top center to lift the=
 gasket over the lip, working our way across the top and down the sides.&nbs=
p; One side didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.&nbsp; &=
nbsp;Still the one side just didn't seem right.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">How did you guys do it?&nbsp; Start by getting one side=
 in and working across? Top to bottom?&nbsp; Bottom to top?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">And a trial fitting of some of t=
he SS trim makes it look like that's going to be a lot of fun, too.</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div>
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:01:44 -0700

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FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from Victoria
British.  I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness for the error
in my ways.  That's when he told me that he had the same provider on the
windshield as everyone else at the time.

That said, I never bought another part from anyone other than Rick after
that.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Stu,
> Gary
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> We installed the new windshield into the frame this weekend.  Top and
> bottom seem OK, but on one side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge
> on the frame.  The other side seemed ok.
>
> The frame is off the car, on my bench.  We started by centering the
> windshield as best we could judge, then started at the top center to lift
> the gasket over the lip, working our way across the top and down the
> sides.  One side didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.
>  Still the one side just didn't seem right.
>
> How did you guys do it?  Start by getting one side in and working across?
> Top to bottom?  Bottom to top?
>
> And a trial fitting of some of the SS trim makes it look like that's going
> to be a lot of fun, too.
>
> Stu
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<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from =
Victoria British.=C2=A0 I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness f=
or the error in my ways.=C2=A0 That&#39;s when he told me that he had the s=
ame provider on the windshield as everyone else at the time.=C2=A0=C2=A0<di=
v><br></div><div>That said, I never bought another part from anyone other t=
han Rick after that.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Ga=
ry via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Stu,=C2=A0<div>It sounds like you are doing it right=
.</div><div>I would pull it out and try again though.</div><div>I say that =
because of the last one I put in.</div><div>It was brand new from Vic Briti=
sh OEM XXX.</div><div>It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.</div><div>But,=
 the first cold night in my not so cold</div><div>California, one of the la=
minations in the lower</div><div>corner cracked.=C2=A0 I can only think tha=
t I left it</div><div>a little too stressed on one side.</div><div>Gary=C2=
=A0</div><div><br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_6515958966561759463AppleMailSignat=
ure" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2=
019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small">We installed the new windshield into the=
 frame this weekend.=C2=A0 Top and bottom seem OK, but on one side we can b=
arely get the gasket over the ridge on the frame.=C2=A0 The other side seem=
ed ok.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The frame is off t=
he car, on my bench.=C2=A0 We started by centering the windshield as best w=
e could judge, then started at the top center to lift the gasket over the l=
ip, working our way across the top and down the sides.=C2=A0 One side didn&=
#39;t fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Still =
the one side just didn&#39;t seem right.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small">How did you guys do it?=C2=A0 Start by getting one side in =
and working across? Top to bottom?=C2=A0 Bottom to top?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">And a trial fitting of some of=
 the SS trim makes it look like that&#39;s going to be a lot of fun, too.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div>
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From: Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:06:23 -0700

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Like Jay said, everybody gets their=20
windshields from the same suppliers.
I am not necessarily a fan of VB but I don=E2=80=99t=20
blame them for my cracked windshield.
I bought 2 on a really cheap close out sale
back in the =E2=80=9890s.  They were VERY well
packed as someone pointed out recently.
Gary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Armacost, Don Jr. <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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> I think I told this story earlier but just in case. While restoring a1968 M=
GB-GT it took three windshields from VB to get one to fit. Earlier while res=
toring a1963 MG the first gas tank sending unit leaked on the floor of my ga=
rage. Back to VB for a replacement. In two days the sending unit was again l=
eaking. I told my guys to screw VB and get one from Moss. VB made in China, M=
oss made in UK. No problems with the Moss sending unit years later. Alas VB i=
s in my home town. Still, if there is an option it is always Moss.=20
>=20
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
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>> FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from Victoria Britis=
h.  I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness for the error in my wa=
ys.  That's when he told me that he had the same provider on the windshield a=
s everyone else at the time. =20
>>=20
>> That said, I never bought another part from anyone other than Rick after t=
hat.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Gary via Tigers <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>>=20
>>>> We installed the new windshield into the frame this weekend.  Top and b=
ottom seem OK, but on one side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge o=
n the frame.  The other side seemed ok.
>>>>=20
>>>> The frame is off the car, on my bench.  We started by centering the win=
dshield as best we could judge, then started at the top center to lift the g=
asket over the lip, working our way across the top and down the sides.  One s=
ide didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.   Still the on=
e side just didn't seem right.
>>>>=20
>>>> How did you guys do it?  Start by getting one side in and working acros=
s? Top to bottom?  Bottom to top? =20
>>>>=20
>>>> And a trial fitting of some of the SS trim makes it look like that's go=
ing to be a lot of fun, too.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Like Jay said, everybody gets their&nbsp;<d=
iv>windshields from the same suppliers.</div><div>I am not necessarily a fan=
 of VB but I don=E2=80=99t&nbsp;</div><div>blame them for my cracked windshi=
eld.</div><div>I bought 2 on a really cheap close out sale</div><div>back in=
 the =E2=80=9890s. &nbsp;They were VERY well</div><div>packed as someone poi=
nted out recently.</div><div>Gary<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D=
"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:46=
 PM, Armacost, Don Jr. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">drarma=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">

I think I told this story earlier but just in case. While restoring a1968 MG=
B-GT it took three windshields from VB to get one to fit. Earlier while rest=
oring a1963 MG the first gas tank sending unit leaked on the floor of my gar=
age. Back to VB for a replacement.
 In two days the sending unit was again leaking. I told my guys to screw VB a=
nd get one from Moss. VB made in China, Moss made in UK. No problems with th=
e Moss sending unit years later. Alas VB is in my home town. Still, if there=
 is an option it is always Moss.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
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On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from V=
ictoria British.&nbsp; I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness for=
 the error in my ways.&nbsp; That's when he told me that he had the same pro=
vider on the windshield as everyone else
 at the time.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That said, I never bought another part from anyone other than Rick afte=
r that.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Gary v=
ia Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Stu,&nbsp;
<div>It sounds like you are doing it right.</div>
<div>I would pull it out and try again though.</div>
<div>I say that because of the last one I put in.</div>
<div>It was brand new from Vic British OEM XXX.</div>
<div>It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.</div>
<div>But, the first cold night in my not so cold</div>
<div>California, one of the laminations in the lower</div>
<div>corner cracked.&nbsp; I can only think that I left it</div>
<div>a little too stressed on one side.</div>
<div>Gary&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_6515958966561759463AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div>
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On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">We installed the new w=
indshield into the frame this weekend.&nbsp; Top and bottom seem OK, but on o=
ne side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge on the frame.&nbsp; The o=
ther side seemed ok.</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The frame is off the c=
ar, on my bench.&nbsp; We started by centering the windshield as best we cou=
ld judge, then started at the top center to lift the gasket over the lip, wo=
rking our way across the top and down
 the sides.&nbsp; One side didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the=
 bottom.&nbsp; &nbsp;Still the one side just didn't seem right.</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">How did you guys do i=
t?&nbsp; Start by getting one side in and working across? Top to bottom?&nbs=
p; Bottom to top?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">And a trial fitting o=
f some of the SS trim makes it look like that's going to be a lot of fun, to=
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