Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger shifter steel plugs/springs

From: Tony Lang via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC)

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Paul- Thanks for the link. These are the parts I am missing. I may never us=
e the shifters but at least I can collect the missing items. Thanks for the=
 help.=C2=A0TonytheTigerTony Lang (TtT)=20

    On =E2=80=8EWednesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E24=E2=
=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E05=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E49=E2=80=8E:=
=E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Jeffery Randall via=
 Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Iron beast via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

TonyIs this what you need?
https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4=
-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/
Paul

Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a sp=
ring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowl=
edge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?=C2=A0TIA... TonytheTi=
ger
Tony Lang (TtT)=20

    On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E23=E2=80=
=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=80=8E:=E2=
=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.

 =C2=A0

The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.

Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straigh=
tness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required

Keeping all the working parts parallel is important

If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer =
or shim keeps everything parallel then do that

I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase t=
he spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the same

Lube the working parts

 =C2=A0

Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I went=
 through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything in place=
 then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment proc=
edure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all=
 was well

 =C2=A0

Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts=
 that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers

I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.

If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.

 =C2=A0

The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =
=E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs=20

 =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio

 =C2=A0

did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either=
 from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that g=
ive a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the li=
nkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right =
to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushings=
,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find th=
e old box in the garage

it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry

 =C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
To: phastphill <[email-masked]>; Tigers <[email-masked]>
Cc: tigers <[email-masked]>; rtscolgan <[email-masked]>

Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio

Phastphill

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not s=
ee any linkage kits, I only see shifters.=C2=A0=C2=A0 May be I missed the p=
arts you speak of.

=C2=A0

Do you have a part # for the kit you used?

Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the k=
it you used?

Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?

=C2=A0

Thanks=20

Ron Fraser

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio

=C2=A0

i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shim=
s for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock t=
oploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger Server <[email-masked]>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan@yaho=
o.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio

Russ,

=C2=A0

Ron is right.=C2=A0 I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.=
=C2=A0 I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gea=
r.=C2=A0 Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was wel=
l.=C2=A0 Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think tha=
t the problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
--=C2=A0

Will - 382001570=C2=A0
[email-masked]

=C2=A0

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:

Russ

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happens.

The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.=C2=A0=C2=A0 If you put it ba=
ck into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 I found that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to =
get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.

=C2=A0

I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.

=C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years=
 ago, but here is a go at it.

I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 i=
nspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.

I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.

Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as requ=
ired.

=C2=A0

That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter ha=
ng up now.

=C2=A0

Hope this helps with your problem

Ron Fraser=20

=C2=A0

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy C.=
 via Tigers
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio

=C2=A0

After=C2=A0 my recent engine rebuild=C2=A0 I am having trouble with the tra=
nny getting stuck in two gears.=C2=A0 Not good.=C2=A0 It occurs when trying=
 to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gea=
r. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacin=
g the motor?=C2=A0 I didn't do anything to the tranny=C2=A0 when out of the=
 car.=C2=A0 I did clean it up and repaint before re-entry.=C2=A0 It was sug=
gested that=C2=A0 I cleaned it too good and it needed to be relubed on the =
rods and levers.=C2=A0 That did seem to help but it still gets stuck on occ=
asion and I can release it by putting it back into reverse.=C2=A0 That is t=
he good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever before to pop it=
 out of gear. =C2=A0=C2=A0 The levers all line up where they should be unde=
r the shifter.=C2=A0 Fluid level is good.=C2=A0 Is the fluid correct( valvo=
line gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?=C2=A0 Any suggestions would be ap=
preciated.=C2=A0 Russ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [email-masked]

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<div><div>Paul- Thanks for the link. These are the parts I am missing. I ma=
y never use the shifters but at least I can collect the missing items. Than=
ks for the help.&nbsp;</div><div>TonytheTiger</div><div class=3D"ydp68854b3=
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m_-4667477591535356467AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</=
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ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap"><div>I have a couple shifters Ive collected th=
ru the years but I am missing a spring and steel plug on at least two of th=
e shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and or if I can purchase replac=
ement parts?&nbsp;</div><div>TIA... TonytheTiger</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
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ss=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good informatio=
n.</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc3=
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81gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">The basics=
 with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.</p><p class=3D"ydp2=
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Normal">Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for=
 straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p><p cl=
ass=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">Keeping all the working parts parallel is important</p><=
p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or =
adding an extra washer or shim keeps everything parallel then do that</p><p=
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v5858327498MsoNormal">I remember stretching the big main spring on the shif=
ter some to increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim the=
re would do the same</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-466747=
7591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working parts</p><=
p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail=
-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Install shifter a=
nd follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I went through this pro=
cedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup> time to set everything in place then =
rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment=
 procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected an=
d all was well</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-466747759153=
5356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b42=
1yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal=
">Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the par=
ts that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b4=
21yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorma=
l">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.</p><p class=3D"ydp=
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oNormal">If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with ev=
eryone.</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv243=
6182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">The g=
earshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =E2=
=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs </p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081=
gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><=
p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
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f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
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br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"=
ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585832749=
8MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477=
591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"=
>did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit eithe=
r from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that =
give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the l=
inkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right=
 to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushing=
s,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find t=
he old box in the garage<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></p><p=
 class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">it was toploader heaven.=
...seems to be out of business now....sorry</span></p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b4=
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l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b=
421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"non=
e">From: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none">To: phastphill &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt;; Tige=
rs &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ari=
al, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: =
tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt;; rtscolgan &lt;</s=
pan><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-ser=
if;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv=
2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial=
, sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 =
pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</s=
pan></p><div id=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gm=
ail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Phastphill</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I looked through Da=
vid Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see shi=
fters.&nbsp;&nbsp; May be I missed the parts you speak of.</span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc31=
6c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Aria=
l, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9=
b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:blac=
k;">Do you have a part # for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-seri=
f;color:black;">Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have =
to ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yi=
v2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Do=
 you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-seri=
f;color:black;">Thanks </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436=
182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Ron Fra=
ser</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-46674=
77591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv243=
6182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt73752"><div><=
p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, =
sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:phastphil=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></=
a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"=
> &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, =
sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</=
b> Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> </span><a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"=
>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"><b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">; </sp=
an><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-seri=
f;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ti=
gers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c=
9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><p class=3D"=
ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585832749=
8MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">i rebuilt my linkage with a kit fr=
om david kee...and a couple of extra shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people w=
ho drive it can't believe it is a stock toploader...</span><a href=3D"http:=
//davidkeetoploaders.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">http://davi=
dkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ari=
al, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-bot=
tom:12pt;"><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"no=
ne">From: Will Seay via Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></=
a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser=
@bluefrog.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</s=
pan></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: Tiger Server &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]=
eam.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-ser=
if;color:black;">&gt;; Russ and Tammy C. &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rtsco=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</s=
pan></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br clear=3D"=
none">Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><=
div id=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081g=
mail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Russ,</span>=
<span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div=
></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-se=
rif;color:black;">Ron is right.&nbsp; I had the same problem when my Tiger =
was factory new.&nbsp; I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to =
get into 1st gear.&nbsp; Finally put it back into reverse and then back out=
 and all was well.&nbsp; Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment,=
 but I think that the problem will never completely go away - it's the natu=
re of the beast.<br clear=3D"none">--&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif=
;color:black;">Will - 382001570&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"></span><a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Tigers@em=
barqmail.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b42=
1yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></=
span></p></div><div><div id=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt39011"><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421=
yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">=
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">tigers@=
autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;color:black;">&gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,=
 sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"borde=
r-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-c=
olor:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);margin:5pt 0in=
 5pt 4.8pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c=
9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;">Russ</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-=
m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe=
 I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happens.</span><span style=3D"=
font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3=
cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, =
sans-serif;color:black;">The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.&nbs=
p;&nbsp; If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of rever=
se it should be OK.&nbsp;&nbsp; I found that worked after getting under the=
 Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.</=
span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-46674775=
91535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cb=
yiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;">I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechani=
sm.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-466=
7477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc3=
16c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ari=
al, sans-serif;color:black;">I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced thi=
s occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but here is a go at it.</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial, sans-serif;color:black;">I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =
=E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched the =
spring a little.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv243618208=
1gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">I also repla=
ced the trunnion on the shifter.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9=
b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:blac=
k;">Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as =
required.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-=
m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in=
 a great while does the shifter hang up now.</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-seri=
f;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;c=
olor:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv243=
6182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Hope t=
his helps with your problem</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-se=
rif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421y=
iv2436182081gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">R=
on Fraser </span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail=
-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span=
 style=3D"font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></di=
v><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none=
 none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0=
in 0in;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydp26c9b421yiv2436182081gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
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stuck in two gears.&nbsp; Not good.&nbsp; It occurs when trying to go forwa=
rd after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I per=
haps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor?=
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I did clean it up and repaint before re-entry.&nbsp; It was suggested that&=
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can release it by putting it back into reverse.&nbsp; That is the good news=
. I had to get under the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear=
. &nbsp;&nbsp; The levers all line up where they should be under the shifte=
r.&nbsp; Fluid level is good.&nbsp; Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oi=
l--high performance 80-90w )?&nbsp; Any suggestions would be appreciated.&n=
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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:52:44 -0400

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Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for =
straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required

If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra =
washer or shim keeps everything parallel then do that

I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to =
increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would =
do the same

Lube the working parts

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Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I =
went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything =
in place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd =
alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I =
corrected and all was well

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Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the =
parts that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers

If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with =
everyone.

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The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 =
springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs=20

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Ron Fraser

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did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit =
either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i =
think that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we =
shimmed the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of =
2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit =
had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned =
right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage

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Phastphill

                I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do =
not see any linkage kits, I only see shifters.   May be I missed the =
parts you speak of.

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Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for =
the kit you used?

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Thanks=20

Ron Fraser

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i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra =
shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a =
stock toploader... <http://davidkeetoploaders.com/> =
http://davidkeetoploaders.com/

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Russ,

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Ron is right.  I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.  I =
remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.  =
Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.  =
Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the =
problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
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Will - 382001570=20

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On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers < =

Russ

               I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still =
happens.

The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.   If you put it back into =
reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.   I found =
that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a =
forward gear which is no fun at all.

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I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 =
years ago, but here is a go at it.

I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =
=E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.

Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as =
required.

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That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up now.

=20

Ron Fraser=20

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After  my recent engine rebuild  I am having trouble with the tranny =
getting stuck in two gears.  Not good.  It occurs when trying to go =
forward after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. =
Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on =
replacing the motor?  I didn't do anything to the tranny  when out of =
the car.  I did clean it up and repaint before re-entry.  It was =
suggested that  I cleaned it too good and it needed to be relubed on the =
rods and levers.  That did seem to help but it still gets stuck on =
occasion and I can release it by putting it back into reverse.  That is =
the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever before to =
pop it out of gear.    The levers all line up where they should be under =
the shifter.  Fluid level is good.  Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear =
oil--high performance 80-90w )?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  =

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you =
for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The basics =
with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all =
the parts for straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as =
required<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Keeping all the working =
parts parallel is important<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If using =
2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer or =
shim keeps everything parallel then do that<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I remember stretching the big main spring on the =
shifter some to increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or =
shim there would do the same<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Lube the =
working parts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =
=E2=80=93 I think I went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 =
1<sup>st</sup> time to set everything in place then rowed through the =
gears a couple of times then the 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment procedure =
=E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all =
was well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 =
C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts that attach the shift rod to the =
shifter levers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m thinking =
the kit you used had more parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If =
there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with =
everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel =
plugs and 2 springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed =
wide ratio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>did=
 it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either =
from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that =
give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed =
the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it =
goes right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had =
all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll =
see if i can find the old box in the =
garage<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>it =
was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business =
now....sorry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rfraser@bluefro=
g.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<br>To: phastphill &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>phastphill@aol.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;; Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tigers@embarqma=
il.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<br>Cc: tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
am.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;; rtscolgan &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rtscolgan@yahoo=
.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 =
speed wide ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv7116515362><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Pha=
stphill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not =
see any linkage kits, I only see shifters.&nbsp;&nbsp; May be I missed =
the parts you speak of.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Do =
you have a part # for the kit you =
used?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is =
it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the =
kit you used?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Do =
you have more description of what you did to the stock shift =
linkage?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nks <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron=
 Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv7116515362yqt73752><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>phastphill@aol.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
&lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>phastphill@aol.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tigers@embarqma=
il.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>; =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rfraser@bluefro=
g.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
am.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>; =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rtscolgan@yahoo=
.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide =
ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>i =
rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra =
shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a =
stock toploader...</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>http://davidkee=
toploaders.com/</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Will Seay via Tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
am.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<br>To: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rfraser@bluefro=
g.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<br>Cc: Tiger Server &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
am.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;; Russ and Tammy C. &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>rtscolgan@yahoo=
.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;<br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] top =
loader 4 speed wide ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv7116515362><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Rus=
s,</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron=
 is right.&nbsp; I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory =
new.&nbsp; I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into =
1st gear.&nbsp; Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and =
all was well.&nbsp; Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, =
but I think that the problem will never completely go away - it's the =
nature of the beast.<br>--&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wil=
l - 382001570&nbsp;<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tigers@embarqma=
il.com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><div id=3Dyiv7116515362yqt39011><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
am.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
; wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC =
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Rus=
s</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still =
happens.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you put it =
back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be =
OK.&nbsp;&nbsp; I found that worked after getting under the Tiger a =
couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at =
all.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I=E2=
=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years =
ago, but here is a go at it.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 =
inspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ass=
emble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as =
required.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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sp;</span><span =
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p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
t worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up now.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
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p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hop=
e this helps with your problem</span><span =
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p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron=
 Fraser </span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
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Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
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><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span><span =
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p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Aft=
er&nbsp; my recent engine rebuild&nbsp; I am having trouble with the =
tranny getting stuck in two gears.&nbsp; Not good.&nbsp; It occurs when =
trying to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't go into any =
forward gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into the =
tunnel on replacing the motor?&nbsp; I didn't do anything to the =
tranny&nbsp; when out of the car.&nbsp; I did clean it up and repaint =
before re-entry.&nbsp; It was suggested that&nbsp; I cleaned it too good =
and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.&nbsp; That did seem =
to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by =
putting it back into reverse.&nbsp; That is the good news. I had to get =
under the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. =
&nbsp;&nbsp; The levers all line up where they should be under the =
shifter.&nbsp; Fluid level is good.&nbsp; Is the fluid correct( =
valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?&nbsp; Any suggestions =
would be appreciated.&nbsp; Russ =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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From: Mark Rense via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:29:28 -0400

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When I converted my Toploader to wide  ratio for the stroker car I
carefully rebuilt the shift linkage. It is as good as it can be, but
woefully second rate compared to the Hurst shifter on my other Tiger. The
Hurst feels modern and is precise much like a S2000. I recommend it highly.
You can even buy a T-handle lever so it looks authentic.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:55 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]=
t>
wrote:

> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washe=
r
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase
> the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the sam=
e
>
> Lube the working parts
>
>
>
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I we=
nt
> through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything in plac=
e then
> rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment
> procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected a=
nd all was
> well
>
>
>
> Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the par=
ts that attach
> the shift rod to the shifter levers
>
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 spring=
s =E2=80=93 I
> stretched these 2 springs
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">When I converted my Toploader to wide =C2=A0ratio fo=
r the stroker car I carefully rebuilt the shift linkage. It is as good as i=
t can be, but woefully second rate compared to the Hurst shifter on my othe=
r Tiger. The Hurst feels modern and is precise much like a S2000. I recomme=
nd it highly. You can even buy a T-handle lever so it looks authentic.=C2=
=A0</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:55 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue"=
 vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_5363653995599875709WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.<=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little wea=
k.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Seems to me when I worked my shi=
fter; I inspected all the parts for straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=
=80=93 repaired as required<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keeping=
 all the working parts parallel is important<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an ext=
ra washer or shim keeps everything parallel then do that<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">I remember stretching the big main spring on the shif=
ter some to increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim the=
re would do the same<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lube the worki=
ng parts<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=
=80=93 I think I went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup>=
 time to set everything in place then rowed through the gears a couple of t=
imes then the 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there wa=
s a slight offset which I corrected and all was well<u></u><u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some linka=
ge parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts that atta=
ch the shift rod to the shifter levers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please shar=
e them with everyone.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=
=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs <u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u></p></div></div></bl=
ockquote></div></div>

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:47:23 +0000 (UTC)

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Lube the working parts

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Ron Fraser

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
To: phastphill <[email-masked]>; Tigers <[email-masked]>
Cc: tigers <[email-masked]>; rtscolgan <[email-masked]>

Phastphill

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks=20

Ron Fraser

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-----Original Message-----
From: Will Seay via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: Ron Fraser <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tiger Server <[email-masked]>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan@yaho=
o.com>

Russ,

=C2=A0

Will - 382001570=C2=A0
[email-masked]

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Russ

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div>I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am miss=
ing a spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone ha=
ve knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?&nbsp;</div><d=
iv>TIA... TonytheTiger</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197signatu=
re"><div>Tony Lang (TtT)<var id=3D"ydp2d2eb197yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></=
div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8E23=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E=
55=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fra=
ser via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.</=
p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it=
 can be a little weak.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Se=
ems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straightn=
ess, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Keeping all the working parts parallel is i=
mportant</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 sprin=
g washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps ev=
erything parallel then do that</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal">I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to incr=
ease the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the =
same</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working par=
ts</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Install shifter and follow the alignmen=
t procedure =E2=80=93 I think I went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93=
 1<sup>st</sup> time to set everything in place then rowed through the gear=
s a couple of times then the 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I=
 think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all was well</p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3=
cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7=
285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers<=
/p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m thinking the =
kit you used had more parts.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al">If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyon=
e.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">The gearshift lever has trunnion set =
=E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs=
 </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> =
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, Apr=
il 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke s=
o a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either from kee or toploader heaven....there =
are wave type washers i think that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help=
 going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the linkage with one or two extra...now if i =
push shifter out of 2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just push i=
t in gear...kit had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was align=
ed right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage<br><br></span><=
/p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12=
.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;colo=
r:black;'>it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sor=
ry</span></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;color:black;'> &nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585832=
7498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>-----Original Message----=
-<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt;<br>To: phast=
phill &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt;; Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]=
m</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif=
;color:black;'>&gt;<br>Cc: tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt=
;; rtscolgan &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
 sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt;</span></p><p class=3D"y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br>Se=
nt: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed w=
ide ratio</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div><div><p =
class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Phastphill</span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I loo=
ked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, =
I only see shifters.&nbsp;&nbsp; May be I missed the parts you speak of.</s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Do =
you have a part # for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Is it still listed in the David Kee cat=
alog or do you have to ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Do you have more description o=
f what you did to the stock shift linkage?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Thanks </span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Ron Fraser</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span></p></=
div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt73752"><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3=
cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span><a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></=
a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;'> &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April=
 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>; </span=
><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>rfraser@=
bluefrog.com</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
 sans-serif;color:black;'><br><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>=
; </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
follow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>r=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader=
 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58583274=
98MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"=
><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0=
pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;'>i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of ex=
tra shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a=
 stock toploader...</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;'>http://davidkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><span style=3D=
'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p>=
</div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Will Seay via Ti=
gers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt;<br>To: Ron Fraser &lt;</spa=
n><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>rfraser=
@bluefrog.com</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
, sans-serif;color:black;'>&gt;<br>Cc: Tiger Server &lt;</span><a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]=
t</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif=
;color:black;'>&gt;; Russ and Tammy C. &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolg=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&g=
t;<br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader =
4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><di=
v><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Rus=
s,</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></spa=
n></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;=
'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;colo=
r:black;'>Ron is right.&nbsp; I had the same problem when my Tiger was fact=
ory new.&nbsp; I remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into=
 1st gear.&nbsp; Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all=
 was well.&nbsp; Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I t=
hink that the problem will never completely go away - it's the nature of th=
e beast.<br>--&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:black;'></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;color:black;'>Will - 382001570&nbsp;<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:Tige=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></=
a><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p><=
/div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color=
:black;'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;'></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt39011">=
<div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Fri, Apr 19,=
 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked]</span></a><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;=
'>&gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;'></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medi=
um medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentCol=
or currentColor currentColor rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;=
 padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt;"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;'>Russ</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and=
 sometimes still happens.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
 sans-serif;color:black;'>The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.&nb=
sp;&nbsp; If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reve=
rse it should be OK.&nbsp;&nbsp; I found that worked after getting under th=
e Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.<=
/span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>=
&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:b=
lack;'>I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></d=
iv><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span=
><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I=E2=
=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago=
, but here is a go at it.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
 sans-serif;color:black;'>I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=
=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring=
 a little.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;'>I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.</span><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Assemble the shif=
ter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as required.</span><span=
 style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</spa=
n><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p><=
/div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>That=
 worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter hang u=
p now.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:b=
lack;'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;=
color:black;'>Hope this helps with your problem</span><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><p=
 class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Ron Fraser </span><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div></div>=
<div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>&nbsp;</span><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></p></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: so=
lid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al", sans-serif;color:black;'> Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers-b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked].=
net</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-ser=
if;color:black;'>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>[email-masked].=
net</span></a><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-ser=
if;color:black;'><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio=
</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span>=
</p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:black;'>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;co=
lor:black;'></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c=
3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al", sans-serif;color:black;'>After&nbsp; my recent engine rebuild&nbsp; I =
am having trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two gears.&nbsp; Not goo=
d.&nbsp; It occurs when trying to go forward after putting it in reverse It=
 won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it ba=
ck into the tunnel on replacing the motor?&nbsp; I didn't do anything to th=
e tranny&nbsp; when out of the car.&nbsp; I did clean it up and repaint bef=
ore re-entry.&nbsp; It was suggested that&nbsp; I cleaned it too good and i=
t needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.&nbsp; That did seem to help =
but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back=
 into reverse.&nbsp; That is the good news. I had to get under the car and =
hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. &nbsp;&nbsp; The levers all lin=
e up where they should be under the shifter.&nbsp; Fluid level is good.&nbs=
p; Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?&nbs=
p; Any suggestions would be appreciated.&nbsp; Russ &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;'>rtscolgan@=
yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;'></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-b=
ottom:12.0pt;"><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", san=
s-serif;color:black;'>_______________________________________________<br><b=
r></span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
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From: Iron beast via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:11:21 -0400

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Tony
Is this what you need?

https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-=
speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/

Paul

Sent from my iPhone

rote:
>=20
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a s=
pring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowl=
edge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?=20
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>=20
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>=20
>=20
> On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E23=E2=80=8E=
, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E=
02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers=
@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straig=
htness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required
> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer=
>=20
> Lube the working parts
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I wen=
t through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything in place=
 then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment proce=
dure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all w=
as well
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the part=
s that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers
> The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs=
 =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit eithe=
r from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that g=
ive a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the lin=
kage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to=
 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushings,an=
d we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find the ol=
d box in the garage
>                 I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not s=
ee any linkage kits, I only see shifters.   May be I missed the parts you sp=
eak of.
it you used?
> Thanks
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shi=
ms for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock t=
oploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
> Cc: Tiger Server <[email-masked]>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan@yah=
oo.com>
> Ron is right.  I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.  I re=
member sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.  Finally p=
ut it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.  Follow everybod=
y's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will never c=
ompletely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --=20
>=20
> Will - 382001570=20
> [email-masked]
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> =20
>=20
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:
>=20
> Russ
>=20
>                I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happe=
ns.
>=20
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.   If you put it back into r=
everse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.   I found that w=
orked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward ge=
ar which is no fun at all.
> I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 year=
s ago, but here is a go at it.
> Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as req=
uired.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter h=
ang up now.
> From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy C=
. via Tigers
> After  my recent engine rebuild  I am having trouble with the tranny getti=
ng stuck in two gears.  Not good.  It occurs when trying to go forward after=
 putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend=
 something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor?  I didn't=
 do anything to the tranny  when out of the car.  I did clean it up and repa=
int before re-entry.  It was suggested that  I cleaned it too good and it ne=
eded to be relubed on the rods and levers.  That did seem to help but it sti=
ll gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back into rever=
se.  That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever bef=
ore to pop it out of gear.    The levers all line up where they should be un=
der the shifter.  Fluid level is good.  Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear=
 oil--high performance 80-90w )?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Rus=
s                 [email-masked]
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Tony<div>Is this what you need?</div><div><=
br><div><a href=3D"https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-k=
it-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/">https://www.cjponyparts.com/sc=
ott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/</a><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Paul<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 A=
M, Tony Lang via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div>I have a co=
uple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a spring and ste=
el plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and=
 or if I can purchase replacement parts?&nbsp;</div><div>TIA... TonytheTiger=
</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197signature"><div>Tony Lang (TtT=
)<var id=3D"ydp2d2eb197yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyahoo_quoted" id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyahoo_=
quoted_6678972682">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=
=80=8E23=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=
=80=8E:=E2=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser vi=
a Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.</p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a=
 little weak.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Seems to me w=
hen I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straightness, rough e=
dges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">Keeping all the working parts parallel is important</p><p=
 class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 spring washers for a=
dded spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps everything paralle=
l then do that</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">I remember s=
tretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase the spring for=
ce =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the same</p><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working parts</p><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I=
 think I went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup> time to s=
et everything in place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then t=
he 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight o=
ffset which I corrected and all was well</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585832=
7498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Som=
e linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts tha=
t attach the shift rod to the shifter levers</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.</p>=
<p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If there were any instruction=
s =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =E2=
=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Ron Fras=
er</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">phastphi=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">did it 5-6 years ago before m=
y stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either from kee or toploader heaven.=
...there are wave type washers i think that give a bit of extra spring....ie=
 to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the linkage with one or two extra...no=
w if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just p=
ush it in gear...kit had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was a=
ligned right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage<br><br></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans=
-serif;color:black;">it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business n=
ow....sorry</span></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"ydpc3=
16c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">--=
---Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rf=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]<=
/span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, san=
s-serif;color:black;">&gt;<br>To: phastphill &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:ph=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-se=
rif;color:black;">&gt;; Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">&gt;<br>Cc: tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;">&gt;; rtscolgan &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&g=
t;</span></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"><br>Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: R=
E: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;col=
or:black;">Phastphill</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
 sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99=
s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see shifters.&nbsp;&nbsp=
; May be I missed the parts you speak of.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Do you have a part #=
 for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585832=
7498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
, sans-serif;color:black;">Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do=
 you have to ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Do you have more description of w=
hat you did to the stock shift linkage?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Thanks </span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Ron Frase=
r</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-seri=
f;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yq=
t73752"><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"> &lt;</sp=
an><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Apr=
il 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Cc:</b> <=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-se=
rif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">; </span><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed w=
ide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;=
color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><p=
 class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;c=
olor:black;">i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple o=
f extra shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it i=
s a stock toploader...</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">http://davidkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;"></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><p class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>From: Will Seay via Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;">&gt;<br>To: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;">&gt;<br>Cc: Tiger Server &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;co=
lor:black;">&gt;; Russ and Tammy C. &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@y=
ahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;col=
or:black;">&gt;<br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers]=
 top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-seri=
f;color:black;">Russ,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c=
3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Ron is right.=
&nbsp; I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.&nbsp; I remembe=
r sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.&nbsp; Finally p=
ut it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.&nbsp; Follow eve=
rybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will n=
ever completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.<br>--&nbsp;</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span>=
</p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
black;">Will - 382001570&nbsp;<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span><=
/p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans=
-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498yqt39011"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;c=
olor:black;">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;</spa=
n><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;=
">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></=
div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-styl=
e: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor currentColo=
r rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt;">=
<div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black=
;">Russ</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color=
:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58583274=
98MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, s=
ans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and somet=
imes still happens.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans=
-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">The linkage is stuck in reverse gear po=
sition.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it ou=
t of reverse it should be OK.&nbsp;&nbsp; I found that worked after getting u=
nder the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at=
 all.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">I believe this problem is all=
 in the shifter mechanism.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">I=E2=80=99=
m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but h=
ere is a go at it.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-=
serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cb=
yiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">I believe I took the shifter mechanism o=
ut =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched th=
e spring a little.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-=
serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cb=
yiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">I also replaced the trunnion on the shif=
ter.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, san=
s-serif;color:black;">Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the sh=
ifter linkage as required.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">That wor=
ked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter hang up now=
.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black=
;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-s=
erif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">Hope this helps with your problem=
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;=
"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-se=
rif;color:black;">Ron Fraser </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></di=
v><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid no=
ne none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding=
: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;co=
lor:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"> Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;">tigers-bo=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and=
 Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>T=
o:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
 sans-serif;">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Subject:</b=
> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;=
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;, sans-serif;color:black;=
"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:black;">After&nbsp; my recent engine rebuild&nbsp; I am h=
aving trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two gears.&nbsp; Not good.&nb=
sp; It occurs when trying to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't=
 go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into=
 the tunnel on replacing the motor?&nbsp; I didn't do anything to the tranny=
&nbsp; when out of the car.&nbsp; I did clean it up and repaint before re-en=
try.&nbsp; It was suggested that&nbsp; I cleaned it too good and it needed t=
o be relubed on the rods and levers.&nbsp; That did seem to help but it stil=
l gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back into revers=
e.&nbsp; That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever=
 before to pop it out of gear. &nbsp;&nbsp; The levers all line up where the=
y should be under the shifter.&nbsp; Fluid level is good.&nbsp; Is the fluid=
 correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?&nbsp; Any suggestio=
ns would be appreciated.&nbsp; Russ &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href=3D"mailto:=
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From: Jeffery Randall via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:48:22 -0400

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Mustangs Unlimited $14.

wrote:

> Tony
> Is this what you need?
>
>
> https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts=
-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a
> spring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have
> knowledge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?
> TIA... TonytheTiger
>
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
>
=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=80=8E:=E2=
=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser
> via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
r
e
nt
e then
nd all was
ts that attach
s =E2=80=93 I
> *From:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit
> either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i thin=
k
> that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimme=
d
> the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goe=
s
> right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new
> bushings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i c=
an
> find the old box in the garage
>
>                 I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not=
 see any
> linkage kits, I only see shifters.   May be I missed the parts you speak =
of.
> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the
> kit you used?
>
> *From:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra
> shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a
> stock toploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
>
> Cc: Tiger Server <[email-masked]>; Russ and Tammy C. <
> [email-masked]>
> Ron is right.  I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new.  I
> remember sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear.
> Finally put it back into reverse and then back out and all was well.
> Follow everybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the
> --
> Will - 382001570
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Russ
>
>                I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happ=
ens.
>
> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.   If you put it back into
> reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK.   I found
> that worked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a
> I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 yea=
rs ago,
> but here is a go at it.
>
> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93=
 inspected it -
> lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
>
> Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as re=
quired.
> That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up
> now.
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Russ and
> Tammy C. via Tigers
> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
>
>
>
> After  my recent engine rebuild  I am having trouble with the tranny
> getting stuck in two gears.  Not good.  It occurs when trying to go forwa=
rd
> after putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I
> perhaps bend something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the
> motor?  I didn't do anything to the tranny  when out of the car.  I did
> clean it up and repaint before re-entry.  It was suggested that  I cleane=
d
> it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.  That did
> seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by
> putting it back into reverse.  That is the good news. I had to get under
> the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear.    The levers all
> line up where they should be under the shifter.  Fluid level is good.  Is
> the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )?  Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.  Russ
> [email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mustangs Unlimited $14.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Iro=
n beast via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Tony=
<div>Is this what you need?</div><div><br><div><a href=3D"https://www.cjpon=
yparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/=
p/HW3273/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifte=
r-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Paul<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467AppleMailSigna=
ture" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 24, =
2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477=
591535356467ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>I have a coup=
le shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a spring and stee=
l plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and=
 or if I can purchase replacement parts?=C2=A0</div><div>TIA... TonytheTige=
r</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp2d2eb197=
signature"><div>Tony Lang (TtT)<var id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp2d=
2eb197yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyahoo_qu=
oted" id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyahoo_quoted_6678972682"=
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8E23=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E=
55=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fra=
ser via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498"><div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498WordSection1"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498MsoNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good informa=
tion.</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498Ms=
oNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5=
858327498MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a li=
ttle weak.</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the par=
ts for straightness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p=
><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>Keeping all the working parts parallel is important</p><p class=3D"gmail-m=
_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 spring w=
ashers for added spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps every=
thing parallel then do that</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">I remember stretching the big main spring on=
 the shifter some to increase the spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or=
 shim there would do the same</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467yd=
pc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working parts</p><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Insta=
ll shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I went thro=
ugh this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup> time to set everything in=
 place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2<sup>nd</su=
p> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I =
corrected and all was well</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc3=
16c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Some linkage parts are available =
=E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts that attach the shift rod to the=
 shifter levers</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.</p=
><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.<=
/p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorma=
l"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs =
and 2 springs =E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs </p><p class=3D"gmail-m=
_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Ron Fras=
er</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316=
c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phastphi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> T=
uesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@blu=
efrog.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591=
535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> =C2=A0</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit =
either from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think =
that give a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed =
the linkage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes =
right to 3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bu=
shings,and we made sure every thing was aligned right...i&#39;ll see if i c=
an find the old box in the garage<br><br></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46=
67477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry</spa=
n></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> =C2=A0</span></p><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span=
></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">&gt;<br>To: phastphill &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">&gt;; Tigers &lt;</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]=
m</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">&gt;<br>Cc: tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">&gt;; rtscolgan &lt;<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rtscolgan@=
yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif;color:black">&gt;</span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br>Sent: Mon, Ap=
r 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</=
span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><=
div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">Phastphill</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I looked through =
David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see s=
hifters.=C2=A0=C2=A0 May be I missed the parts you speak of.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black">Do you have a part # for the kit you used?</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have t=
o ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674=
77591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Do you have more description =
of what you did to the stock shift linkage?</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;color:black">Thanks </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron Fraser</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-=
serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535=
356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yqt73752"><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759=
1535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span=
></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
"> &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">pha=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif;color:black">&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20=
 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@=
bluefrog.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Cc:</b=
> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tig=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif;color:black">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tige=
rs] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span></p></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">i rebuilt my l=
inkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shims for a perfec=
t 2-3 shift,people who drive it can&#39;t believe it is a stock toploader..=
.</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">htt=
p://davidkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;=
color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Will Seay via Tigers &lt;<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tigers@a=
utox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif;color:black">&gt;<br>To: Ron Fraser &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:rf=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">&gt;<br=
>Cc: Tiger Server &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">&gt;; Russ and Tammy C. &lt;<=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">rtscolgan@=
yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif;color:black">&gt;<br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [=
Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4=
667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div><div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Russ,</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron is right.=C2=A0 I had the same =
problem when my Tiger was factory new.=C2=A0 I remember sitting at an inter=
section and trying to get into 1st gear.=C2=A0 Finally put it back into rev=
erse and then back out and all was well.=C2=A0 Follow everybody&#39;s advic=
e about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will never complete=
ly go away - it&#39;s the nature of the beast.<br>--=C2=A0</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"=
>Will - 382001570=C2=A0<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div>=
<div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></s=
pan></p></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498yqt39011"><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c=
3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:black">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tige=
rs &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
[email-masked]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black">&gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D"font-family:A=
rial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;borde=
r-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);margin:5pt =
0in 5pt 4.8pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Russ</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happe=
ns.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it out of reverse=
 it should be OK.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I found that worked after getting under the T=
iger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at all.</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv585=
8327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-seri=
f;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I believe this problem is all in th=
e shifter mechanism.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759153=
5356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I=E2=80=99m=
 not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but h=
ere is a go at it.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915353=
56467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I believe I took the shifter mechanism=
 out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched=
 the spring a little.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col=
or:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-46674775915=
35356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I also replaced the trunnion on the=
 shifter.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></=
span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif;color:black">Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust=
 the shifter linkage as required.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter =
hang up now.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Aria=
l,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Hope this helps wit=
h your problem</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466747759153535646=
7ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Ron Fraser </span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid=
 none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:=
3pt 0in 0in"><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cby=
iv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,s=
ans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> Tigers &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked].=
net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</span></=
a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><=
br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"></span></p></div></div></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-4667477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;=
color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"gmail-m_-466=
7477591535356467ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">After=C2=A0 my recent engin=
e rebuild=C2=A0 I am having trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two ge=
ars.=C2=A0 Not good.=C2=A0 It occurs when trying to go forward after puttin=
g it in reverse It won&#39;t go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend s=
omething getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor?=C2=A0 I di=
dn&#39;t do anything to the tranny=C2=A0 when out of the car.=C2=A0 I did c=
lean it up and repaint before re-entry.=C2=A0 It was suggested that=C2=A0 I=
 cleaned it too good and it needed to be relubed on the rods and levers.=C2=
=A0 That did seem to help but it still gets stuck on occasion and I can rel=
ease it by putting it back into reverse.=C2=A0 That is the good news. I had=
 to get under the car and hit the lever before to pop it out of gear. =C2=
=A0=C2=A0 The levers all line up where they should be under the shifter.=C2=
=A0 Fluid level is good.=C2=A0 Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear oil--hi=
gh performance 80-90w )?=C2=A0 Any suggestions would be appreciated.=C2=A0 =
Russ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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