Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bellhousing Dowel Pins

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 09:54:06 -0400

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Joe

                I did a search and it appears Moroso makes an offset =
dowel but I could not see all the details for the part.

=20

First =E2=80=93 you probably have done this but can you just snug the =
bellhousing bolts and then tap the bellhousing into a position to get a =
better runout reading?

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Tigers <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Joe Brown via =
Tigers
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 5:12 PM
To: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Tigers] Bellhousing Dowel Pins

=20

Hey,

=20

My stock bellhousing has seen better days and I decided to go with a new =
steel one.  I installed it and measured the runout at .007".  According =
to the instructions I need to use offset dowel pins to get the =
bellhousing within .005".  But I can't find anybody that makes offset =
dowel pins that are 3/8" diameter (which is what is in the 260 block).  =
The "standard" size for Fords (according to everything I can find on the =
web) is 1/2" diameter. =20

=20

So, does anybody know of a source for offset pins that are 3/8"? =20

Or should I just live with the .007" of runout I have? =20

Or should I drill out my block, engine plate and bellhousing to accept =
the 1/2" pins?

=20

Thanks,

Joe Brown

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class=3DMsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I did a search and it appears Moroso =
makes an offset dowel but I could not see all the details for the =
part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>First =E2=80=93 you probably have done this but can =
you just snug the bellhousing bolts and then tap the bellhousing into a =
position to get a better runout reading?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Brown via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 06, 2019 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Tigers Den &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
Bellhousing Dowel Pins<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hey,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My stock bellhousing has seen better days and I =
decided to go with a new steel one.&nbsp; I installed it and measured =
the runout at .007&quot;.&nbsp; According to the instructions I need to =
use offset dowel pins to get the bellhousing within .005&quot;.&nbsp; =
But I can't find anybody that makes offset dowel pins that are 3/8&quot; =
diameter (which is what is in the 260 block).&nbsp; The =
&quot;standard&quot; size for Fords (according to everything I can find =
on the web) is 1/2&quot; =
diameter.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So, does anybody know of a source for offset pins that =
are 3/8&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Or should I just live with the .007&quot; of runout I =
have?&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Or =
should I drill out my block, engine plate and bellhousing to accept the =
1/2&quot; pins?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Joe =
Brown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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From: Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 10:20:12 -0500

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Hi,
The only Moroso pins I can find are 1/2".  And the bellhousing is a pretty
tight fit on the pins. The measurements are made with a dial gauge mounted
to the flywheel without the clutch being installed. I might could get the
bellhousing to line up but then I would have to take it off to install the
clutch and then I wouldn't be able to line things up again.

I'm going to contact Quicktime and ask them why they make a bellhousing
that fits 3/8" dowels, tells you to use offset dowels to line it up but
doesn't make the dowels.

The best solution might be to get some longer dowel pins from one of the
industrial suppliers (none of the car parts people seem to have them).
Then come up with a washer that barely fits over the pin and adjust the
holes in the bellhousing to get a little slack. I can then line up the
bellhousing correctly, put the washers over the pins and tack weld them to
the bellhousing. Several companies make kits to do this, but not with 3/8"
dowels.

Thanks,
Joe

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 8:54 AM Ron Fraser <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Joe
>
>                 I did a search and it appears Moroso makes an offset dowe=
l
> but I could not see all the details for the part.
>
>
>
> First =E2=80=93 you probably have done this but can you just snug the bel=
lhousing
> bolts and then tap the bellhousing into a position to get a better runout
> reading?
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Joe Brown
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 06, 2019 5:12 PM
> *To:* Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Bellhousing Dowel Pins
>
>
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> My stock bellhousing has seen better days and I decided to go with a new
> steel one.  I installed it and measured the runout at .007".  According t=
o
> the instructions I need to use offset dowel pins to get the bellhousing
> within .005".  But I can't find anybody that makes offset dowel pins that
> are 3/8" diameter (which is what is in the 260 block).  The "standard" si=
ze
> for Fords (according to everything I can find on the web) is 1/2"
> diameter.
>
>
>
> So, does anybody know of a source for offset pins that are 3/8"?
>
> Or should I just live with the .007" of runout I have?
>
> Or should I drill out my block, engine plate and bellhousing to accept th=
e
> 1/2" pins?

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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi,<div dir=3D"auto">The only Moroso pins I can find are =
1/2&quot;.=C2=A0 And the bellhousing is a pretty tight fit on the pins. The=
 measurements are made with a dial gauge mounted to the flywheel without th=
e clutch being installed. I might could get the bellhousing to line up but =
then I would have to take it off to install the clutch and then I wouldn&#3=
9;t be able to line things up again.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m going to contact Quicktime and ask them why they make =
a bellhousing that fits 3/8&quot; dowels, tells you to use offset dowels to=
 line it up but doesn&#39;t make the dowels.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">The best solution might be to get some longer dowel pi=
ns from one of the industrial suppliers (none of the car parts people seem =
to have them).=C2=A0 Then come up with a washer that barely fits over the p=
in and adjust the holes in the bellhousing to get a little slack. I can the=
n line up the bellhousing correctly, put the washers over the pins and tack=
 weld them to the bellhousing. Several companies make kits to do this, but =
not with 3/8&quot; dowels.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Joe</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 8:54 AM Ron=
 Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" li=
nk=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-6920643391895569865WordSe=
ction1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Joe<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I did a search and it appears Moroso makes an offset dowel =
but I could not see all the details for the part.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">First =E2=80=
=93 you probably have done this but can you just snug the bellhousing bolts=
 and then tap the bellhousing into a position to get a better runout readin=
g?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Brown via Tig=
ers<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 06, 2019 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tigers D=
en &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Bellhou=
sing Dowel Pins<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hey,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My stock =
bellhousing has seen better days and I decided to go with a new steel one.=
=C2=A0 I installed it and measured the runout at .007&quot;.=C2=A0 Accordin=
g to the instructions I need to use offset dowel pins to get the bellhousin=
g within .005&quot;.=C2=A0 But I can&#39;t find anybody that makes offset d=
owel pins that are 3/8&quot; diameter (which is what is in the 260 block).=
=C2=A0 The &quot;standard&quot; size for Fords (according to everything I c=
an find on the web) is 1/2&quot; diameter.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">So, does anybody know of a source for offset pins that are 3=
/8&quot;?=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Or=
 should I just live with the .007&quot; of runout I have?=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Or should I drill out my bloc=
k, engine plate and bellhousing to accept the 1/2&quot; pins?<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Joe Brown<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>

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