Subject: Re: [Tigers] valve extractor for tool kit

From: James Armstrong via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:23:19 +0000 (UTC)

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PERFECT RESPONSE !
Thank you
Jim Armstrong
In a message dated 1/3/2019 11:19:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, bob_diehl@ea=
rthlink.net writes:

It's clearly listed in the parts manual and it was included in my tool roll=
...

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Bob

At 03:52 PM 1/2/2019, Stu via Tigers wrote:

A quick flip through TBON revealed a picture of a Mk II tool kit, and nothi=
ng there resembled a valve stem extractor.

Stu

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:00 PM James Armstrong via Tigers <[email-masked]=
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      - Hello all and Happy New Year,  =20
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      - For all you original Tiger owners with original tool-kits.=C3=82=C2=
=A0 Did the tool-kit contain:
      - Sunbeam Tiger Alpine Plastic Valve Stem Extractor for tool kit=20
      - I'd appreciate a definitive answer please! (especially for my car!

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<div><span style="font-size: medium;"><br>It's clearly listed in the parts manual and it was included in my tool roll...<br><br><img src="cid:[email-masked]" alt="Emacs!" width="614" height="432"> <br><br>Bob<br><br>At 03:52 PM 1/2/2019, Stu via Tigers wrote:<br></span>
<blockquote class="yiv4573636516cite"><span style="font-size: medium;">A quick flip through TBON revealed a picture of a Mk II tool kit, and nothing there resembled a valve stem extractor.<br><br>Stu<br><br>On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:00 PM James Armstrong via Tigers &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></span>
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<dd>Hello all and Happy New Year,<br><br><br></dd>
<dd>For all you original Tiger owners with original tool-kits.&Acirc;&nbsp; Did the tool-kit contain:</dd>
<dd>Sunbeam Tiger Alpine Plastic Valve Stem Extractor for tool kit </dd>
<dd>I'd appreciate a definitive answer please! (especially for my car!</dd>
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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:09:33 +0000 (UTC)

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This would have been=C2=A0 a good one for April Fool's Day. When has a 29 c=
ent piece of plastic generated this much mail?=F0=9F=98=9C I'll admit also,=
 the original posting had me thinking of engine valves and of some rare and=
 exotic tool used by old English mechanics.
In a message dated 1/5/2019 5:06:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.=
team.net writes:

Since I seem to be the point of many comments (not just this one), YES, I h=
ave heard of and know what a Schrader valve is. HOWEVER, neither in the ori=
ginal post nor in the Ebay item (I found) that was worded IDENTICALLY as th=
e post was the word TIRE (or tube) ever used. So, there was NO inclination =
that the tool was used in conjunction with a tire. And from the Ebay ad the=
re was nothing to compare the items size. So, there was no knowing how larg=
e or small it was. I do not have a tool kit to compare, and TBON was alread=
y stated as not providing what the original poster was looking for.
Thus was my thinking going to known =E2=80=9Cvalves=E2=80=9D in a Tiger. An=
d the only other valves I though of were; the engine valves, heater control=
 valve and possible a radio=C2=A0 vacuum tube using a British term =E2=80=
=9Cvalve=E2=80=9D (Reference Tim Hunkin =E2=80=9DSecret Life of Machines=E2=
=80=9D) and the tool was used for some type of electronic adjustment. Also,=
 a third of my working life I was a TV Studio technician and we often used =
very similar looking tools to adjust cameras, hence the mental connection f=
or radio adjustment.
BTW, these were merely suggestions (=E2=80=9Ccould=E2=80=9D), I admitted to=
 the term (sans the word tire) was =E2=80=9Ccofounding=E2=80=9D because I c=
ould not think of ANY reason (with the exception of a radio adjustment) a p=
lastic tool would be used for those other stated purposes. In essence I was=
 ruling out most of those things I mentioned.
So, yea, I get it. The simplicity of the tool once revealed makes even me g=
rin at myself a little bit. But, please, have a little mercy. Had the word =
TIRE or, yes, even Schrader valve been used I would not have overthought my=
 reply.=C2=A0 Which by the way was (I believe) the first one some 17 hours =
after the initial question was posed =E2=80=93 and others could have had am=
ply opportunity =E2=80=93 but didn=E2=80=99t.
From: Tom Hall via TigersSent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 9:47 PMTo: tigers=
@autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Tigers] valve extractor for tool kit

On 1/3/2019 8:06 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers wrote:
You must be talking about this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Alpi=
ne-Plastic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?hash=3Ditem4d876f=
ad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0 as an item of the exact name is on Ebay n=
ow.
The term itself seems confounding. I can only think of two types of valves =
in a Tiger. The 16 valves in the engine and the heater control valve. Given=
 the engine valve stem and head are one you would not be =E2=80=9Cextractin=
g=E2=80=9D one from the other and surely not with plastic.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99=
ve never had the heater valve apart but from its appearance this device see=
ms to have little or no purpose.=C2=A0 Could it be that the word =E2=80=9Cv=
alve=E2=80=9D has an expanded British meaning?=C2=A0 I know they often call=
 vacuum tubes =E2=80=9Cvalves.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 Frankly it looks like a shaft=
 for a radio knob..., or a tool for adjusting old style potentiometers , ca=
pacitors etc..

I'm dumbfounded.=C2=A0 Have none of you ever heard of a Schrader valve?=C2=
=A0 It's what holds the air in your tires!
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Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
[email-masked]
(925)462-3876
www.tigerengineering.net=20
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<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
2pt; color: #000000;">This would have been&nbsp; a good one for April Fool'=
s Day. When has a 29 cent piece of plastic generated this much mail?=F0=9F=
=98=9C I'll admit also, the original posting had me thinking of engine valv=
es and of some rare and exotic tool used by old English mechanics.</span></=
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2pt; color: #000000;"><br></span></div>
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In a message dated 1/5/2019 5:06:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.=
team.net writes:
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<div>Since I seem to be the point of many comments (not just this one), YES=
, I have heard of and know what a Schrader valve is. HOWEVER, neither in th=
e original post nor in the Ebay item (I found) that was worded IDENTICALLY =
as the post was the word TIRE (or tube) ever used. So, there was NO inclina=
tion that the tool was used in conjunction with a tire. And from the Ebay a=
d there was nothing to compare the items size. So, there was no knowing how=
 large or small it was. I do not have a tool kit to compare, and TBON was a=
lready stated as not providing what the original poster was looking for.</d=
iv>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thus was my thinking going to known &ldquo;valves&rdquo; in a Tiger. A=
nd the only other valves I though of were; the engine valves, heater contro=
l valve and possible a radio&nbsp; vacuum tube using a British term &ldquo;=
valve&rdquo; (Reference Tim Hunkin &rdquo;Secret Life of Machines&rdquo;) a=
nd the tool was used for some type of electronic adjustment. Also, a third =
of my working life I was a TV Studio technician and we often used very simi=
lar looking tools to adjust cameras, hence the mental connection for radio =
adjustment.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>BTW, these were merely suggestions (&ldquo;could&rdquo;), I admitted t=
o the term (sans the word tire) was &ldquo;cofounding&rdquo; because I coul=
d not think of ANY reason (with the exception of a radio adjustment) a plas=
tic tool would be used for those other stated purposes. In essence I was ru=
ling out most of those things I mentioned.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>So, yea, I get it. The simplicity of the tool once revealed makes even=
 me grin at myself a little bit. But, please, have a little mercy. Had the =
word TIRE or, yes, even Schrader valve been used I would not have overthoug=
ht my reply.&nbsp; Which by the way was (I believe) the first one some 17 h=
ours after the initial question was posed &ndash; and others could have had=
 amply opportunity &ndash; but didn&rsquo;t.</div>
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to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" sha=
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<div><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, January 03, 2019 9:47 PM</div>
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ia Tigers wrote:</div>
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<div>You must be talking about this: <a title=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/S=
unbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?=
hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0" href=3D"https://www.eba=
y.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/33=
2984724770?hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">https://www.ebay.com/itm/S=
unbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?=
hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0</a> as an item of the ex=
act name is on Ebay now.</div>
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<div>The term itself seems confounding. I can only think of two types of va=
lves in a Tiger. The 16 valves in the engine and the heater control valve. =
Given the engine valve stem and head are one you would not be &ldquo;extrac=
ting&rdquo; one from the other and surely not with plastic.&nbsp; I&rsquo;v=
e never had the heater valve apart but from its appearance this device seem=
s to have little or no purpose.&nbsp; Could it be that the word &ldquo;valv=
e&rdquo; has an expanded British meaning?&nbsp; I know they often call vacu=
um tubes &ldquo;valves.&rdquo;&nbsp; Frankly it looks like a shaft for a ra=
dio knob..., or a tool for adjusting old style potentiometers , capacitors =
etc..</div>
<div><br></div>
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<p>I'm dumbfounded.&nbsp; Have none of you ever heard of a Schrader valve?&=
nbsp; It's what holds the air in your tires!</p>
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Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
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