Subject: Re: [Tigers] Small Block Ford 260 cam spacer thrust plate timing gear

From: phastphill--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:19:36 +0000 (UTC)

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many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing timing gears =
and the new one had the spacer moulded on....what a noise on start up

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From: Bill Lawrence via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 9:33 am
Subject: [Tigers] Small Block Ford 260 cam spacer thrust plate timing gear

 #yiv8265463459 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Hi Joe
Similar issue, may be related.=C2=A0 You may consider checking the run out =
on the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the front end. When I went to =
replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered the new timing gear had the s=
pacer molded into the timing gear. =C2=A0Originally installed the original =
spacer with the new timing gear (double spacer).=C2=A0 =C2=A0When the assem=
bly was rotated by hand I thought the cam shaft was going to pop out of the=
 block.=C2=A0 I removed the spacer and the run out problem solved. Kept ori=
ginal thrust plate without issue.

Attached a diagram showing the various components.

Bill Lawrence
Ft. Lauderdale FLA USA

I bought an Edelbrock 7820 timing chain set to go on my 260 and the instruc=
tions say to remove the original cam thrust plate and spacer and replace it=
 with Ford thrust plate=C2=A0 # C9OZ-6269-A.=C2=A0 These instructions do no=
t explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.=C2=A0 I called Edelbrock and =
the guy I spoke to was useless.=C2=A0 I pointed out that the Ford part numb=
er they listed appears to be obsolete and his response was to send me a lin=
k to Ebay where an old one is for sale.=C2=A0 I've found some other vendors=
 that have replacements for this number.=C2=A0 Does anybody know why a diff=
erent thrust plate would be required for the Edelbrock timing chain set?
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<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing timing gears and the new one had the spacer moulded on....what a noise on start up<br>
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From: Bill Lawrence via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 9:33 am<br>
Subject: [Tigers] Small Block Ford 260 cam spacer thrust plate timing gear<br>
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<div>Similar issue, may be related.&nbsp; You may consider checking the run out on the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the front end. When I went to replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered the new timing gear had the spacer molded into the timing gear.
 &nbsp;Originally installed the original spacer with the new timing gear (double spacer).&nbsp; &nbsp;When the assembly was rotated by hand I thought the cam shaft was going to pop out of the block.&nbsp; I removed the spacer and the run out problem solved. Kept original thrust
 plate without issue.<br>

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<div>Attached a diagram showing the various components.<br>

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<div>Bill Lawrence<br>

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<span>Ft. Lauderdale FLA USA</span></span></div>

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I bought an Edelbrock 7820 timing chain set to go on my 260 and the instructions say to remove the original cam thrust plate and spacer and replace it with Ford thrust plate&nbsp; # C9OZ-6269-A.&nbsp; These instructions do not explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.&nbsp;
 I called Edelbrock and the guy I spoke to was useless.&nbsp; I pointed out that the Ford part number they listed appears to be obsolete and his response was to send me a link to Ebay where an old one is for sale.&nbsp; I've found some other vendors that have replacements
 for this number.&nbsp; Does anybody know why a different thrust plate would be required for the Edelbrock timing chain set?</span>

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From: Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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I decided to take the Edelbrock timing set back to Summit.  I'm going to
stick with the stock setup.  Thanks for all of the info.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:20 AM phastphill--- via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing timing gears
> Hi Joe
> Similar issue, may be related.  You may consider checking the run out on
> the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the front end. When I went to
> replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered the new timing gear had the
> spacer molded into the timing gear.  Originally installed the original
> spacer with the new timing gear (double spacer).   When the assembly was
> rotated by hand I thought the cam shaft was going to pop out of the block.
> I removed the spacer and the run out problem solved. Kept original thrust
> plate without issue.
>
> I bought an Edelbrock 7820 timing chain set to go on my 260 and the
> instructions say to remove the original cam thrust plate and spacer and
> replace it with Ford thrust plate  # C9OZ-6269-A.  These instructions do
> not explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.  I called Edelbrock and the
> guy I spoke to was useless.  I pointed out that the Ford part number they
> listed appears to be obsolete and his response was to send me a link to
> Ebay where an old one is for sale.  I've found some other vendors that have
> replacements for this number.  Does anybody know why a different thrust
> plate would be required for the Edelbrock timing chain set?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I decided to take the Edelbrock timing set back to Summit.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;m going to stick with the stock setup.=C2=A0 Thanks for all of=
 the info.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown<br><div><br></div=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 30=
, 2019 at 11:20 AM phastphill--- via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D=
"arial">many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing timin=
g gears and the new one had the spacer moulded on....what a noise on start =
up<br>
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Subject: [Tigers] Small Block Ford 260 cam spacer thrust plate timing gear<=
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nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"><span>Hi
 Joe<br>

</span>

<div>Similar issue, may be related.=C2=A0 You may consider checking the run=
 out on the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the front end. When I wen=
t to replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered the new timing gear had =
the spacer molded into the timing gear.
 =C2=A0Originally installed the original spacer with the new timing gear (d=
ouble spacer).=C2=A0 =C2=A0When the assembly was rotated by hand I thought =
the cam shaft was going to pop out of the block.=C2=A0 I removed the spacer=
 and the run out problem solved. Kept original thrust
 plate without issue.<br>

</div>

<div><br>

</div>

</div>

<div><br>

</div>

<div>Bill Lawrence<br>

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nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"><br>

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I bought an Edelbrock 7820 timing chain set to go on my 260 and the instruc=
tions say to remove the original cam thrust plate and spacer and replace it=
 with Ford thrust plate=C2=A0 # C9OZ-6269-A.=C2=A0 These instructions do no=
t explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.=C2=A0
 I called Edelbrock and the guy I spoke to was useless.=C2=A0 I pointed out=
 that the Ford part number they listed appears to be obsolete and his respo=
nse was to send me a link to Ebay where an old one is for sale.=C2=A0 I&#39=
;ve found some other vendors that have replacements
 for this number.=C2=A0 Does anybody know why a different thrust plate woul=
d be required for the Edelbrock timing chain set?</span>

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Would be interesting to know if the Ford replacement cam comes with a =
grooved thrust plate. I read somewhere that that was an update. Could be =
wrong. Best of luck.

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I decided to take the Edelbrock timing set back to Summit.  I'm going =
to stick with the stock setup.  Thanks for all of the info.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>=20
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> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:20 AM phastphill--- via Tigers =
> many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing timing =
gears and the new one had the spacer moulded on....what a noise on start =
up
> From: Bill Lawrence via Tigers <[email-masked] =
> Subject: [Tigers] Small Block Ford 260 cam spacer thrust plate timing =
gear
>=20
> Hi Joe
> Similar issue, may be related.  You may consider checking the run out =
on the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the front end. When I went =
to replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered the new timing gear had =
the spacer molded into the timing gear.  Originally installed the =
original spacer with the new timing gear (double spacer).   When the =
assembly was rotated by hand I thought the cam shaft was going to pop =
out of the block.  I removed the spacer and the run out problem solved. =
Kept original thrust plate without issue.
> I bought an Edelbrock 7820 timing chain set to go on my 260 and the =
instructions say to remove the original cam thrust plate and spacer and =
replace it with Ford thrust plate  # C9OZ-6269-A.  These instructions do =
not explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.  I called Edelbrock and =
the guy I spoke to was useless.  I pointed out that the Ford part number =
they listed appears to be obsolete and his response was to send me a =
link to Ebay where an old one is for sale.  I've found some other =
vendors that have replacements for this number.  Does anybody know why a =
different thrust plate would be required for the Edelbrock timing chain =
set?
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Would=
 be interesting to know if the Ford replacement cam comes with a grooved =
thrust plate. I read somewhere that that was an update. Could be wrong. =
Best of luck.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Joe Brown via =
Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I decided to take the Edelbrock timing set back to =
Summit.&nbsp; I'm going to stick with the stock setup.&nbsp; Thanks for =
all of the info.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Joe Brown<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 =
at 11:20 AM phastphill--- via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"arial" =
class=3D"">many years ago i remembering having the same problem,changing =
timing gears and the new one had the spacer moulded on....what a noise =
on start up<br class=3D"">
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class=3D"">Hi
 Joe<br class=3D"">

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<div class=3D"">Similar issue, may be related.&nbsp; You may consider =
checking the run out on the cam/timing gear prior to buttoning up the =
front end. When I went to replace the timing chain/gearset I discovered =
the new timing gear had the spacer molded into the timing gear.
 &nbsp;Originally installed the original spacer with the new timing gear =
(double spacer).&nbsp; &nbsp;When the assembly was rotated by hand I =
thought the cam shaft was going to pop out of the block.&nbsp; I removed =
the spacer and the run out problem solved. Kept original thrust
 plate without issue.<br class=3D"">

</div>

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<div class=3D"">Attached a diagram showing the various components.<br =
class=3D"">

</div>

<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>

<div class=3D"">Bill Lawrence<br class=3D"">

</div>

<span class=3D"">Ft. Lauderdale FLA USA</span></span></div>

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instructions do not explain WHY the plate needs to be replaced.&nbsp;
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