Subject: Re: [Tigers] List delay question

From: Mark J Bradakis via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 03:24:41 -0600

On 10/22/18 2:15 AM, steve wick via Tigers wrote:
>
> I don't often post to the list, mainly because there seems to be a 
> delay between when I send a response and when my response hits my 
> mailbox. Recently I posted a response to a question and it was about a 
> day and a half later that my response appeared in my inbox. By then 6 
> other people had responded with essentially the same answer and the 
> discussion had moved on. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>

Yes, there is a delay in mail processing in the server.  Usually on the 
order of 2 - 3 hours, maybe 4.  I would LOVE to know why it happens.  I 
have looked into it before, and have been meaning to delve into the 
problem more deeply.  I don't know if it is a software issue with 
Postfix or Mailman, or if it is a hardware issue with a bad hard drive 
that takes a bazillion retries to write  a file.

With the archiving problem mostly sorted, perhaps I will up the priority 
of investigating the delays.  A day and a half is a pretty excessive 
delay, more than I have experienced.  The machine on which I read Team 
Net email is on the same wire as the server, a few feet apart. I've 
never seen more than a few hours delay.

I'll look into it some more.

mjb.

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Thanks Mark. I do enjoy the list and learn more about my car and the commun=
ity all the time. I appreciate the effort you put in.

And this time the round trip was only 51 minutes.

Steve

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mjb.

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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thanks Mark. I do enjoy the list =
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<div class=3D"PlainText">On 10/22/18 2:15 AM, steve wick via Tigers wrote:<=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; I don't often post to the list, mainly because there seems to be a <br=
&gt; delay between when I send a response and when my response hits my <br>
&gt; mailbox. Recently I posted a response to a question and it was about a=
 <br>
&gt; day and a half later that my response appeared in my inbox. By then 6 =
<br>
&gt; other people had responded with essentially the same answer&nbsp;and t=
he <br>
&gt; discussion had moved on. Am I the only one experiencing this?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Yes, there is a delay in mail processing in the server.&nbsp; Usually on th=
e <br>
order of 2 - 3 hours, maybe 4.&nbsp; I would LOVE to know why it happens.&n=
bsp; I <br>
have looked into it before, and have been meaning to delve into the <br>
problem more deeply.&nbsp; I don't know if it is a software issue with <br>
Postfix or Mailman, or if it is a hardware issue with a bad hard drive <br>
that takes a bazillion retries to write&nbsp; a file.<br>
<br>
<br>
With the archiving problem mostly sorted, perhaps I will up the priority <b=
r>
of investigating the delays.&nbsp; A day and a half is a pretty excessive <=
br>
delay, more than I have experienced.&nbsp; The machine on which I read Team=
 <br>
Net email is on the same wire as the server, a few feet apart. I've <br>
never seen more than a few hours delay.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'll look into it some more.<br>
<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
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From: Kirk Smith via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:52:43 -0700

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No, my replies are usually delayed from several hours to the sometimes the
next day.  Sending this at 7:51 a.m. pacific time Oct. 22.we'll see when it
hits the list- Kirk

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of steve wick
via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:15 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] List delay question

I don't often post to the list, mainly because there seems to be a delay
between when I send a response and when my response hits my mailbox.
Recently I posted a response to a question and it was about a day and a half
later that my response appeared in my inbox. By then 6 other people had
responded with essentially the same answer and the discussion had moved on.
Am I the only one experiencing this?

Steve

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sometimes the next day.&nbsp; Sending this at 7:51 a.m. pacific time =
Oct. 22&#8230;we&#8217;ll see when it hits the list- =
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Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>steve =
wick via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 1:15 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] List =
delay question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't often =
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I send a response and when my response hits my mailbox. Recently I =
posted a response to a question and it was about a day and a half later =
that my response appeared in my inbox. By then 6 other people had =
responded with essentially the same answer&nbsp;and the discussion had =
moved on. Am I the only one experiencing =
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:43:06 -0700

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Without giving specific locations I and the people mentioned are in eastern=
 Ventura or western Los Angeles counties. I=E2=80=99m about 10 miles east o=
f Kirk Smith and I too have experienced similar delays. On the other hand J=
ay Laifman is about 8 miles east of me and I=E2=80=99ve seen his replies co=
me in quickly only to see 24 hour plus delays on my immediate replies. Coul=
d it be our provider services??? I have Frontier FIOS (formerly Verizon) an=
d my Verizon email address runs under the shell of AOL.

  BTW, Kirk, received your 7:51 AM (Oct. 22nd) reply at 10:58 AM. So, a lit=
tle more than 3 hours. I often email my brother in Sacramento and we volley=
 back and forth like it was an instant messenger service with near zero del=
ay.

Sent Oct. 22nd 12:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time

From: Kirk Smith via Tigers 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 7:52 AM
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] List delay question

No, my replies are usually delayed from several hours to the sometimes the =
next day.  Sending this at 7:51 a.m. pacific time Oct. 22=E2=80=A6we=E2=80=
=99ll see when it hits the list- Kirk

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of steve wick=
 via Tigers
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:15 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] List delay question

I don't often post to the list, mainly because there seems to be a delay be=
tween when I send a response and when my response hits my mailbox. Recently=
 I posted a response to a question and it was about a day and a half later =
that my response appeared in my inbox. By then 6 other people had responded=
 with essentially the same answer and the discussion had moved on. Am I the=
 only one experiencing this?

Steve

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<DIV>Without giving specific locations I and the people mentioned are in ea=
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Ventura or western Los Angeles counties. I=E2=80=99m about 10 miles east of=
 Kirk Smith 
and I too have experienced similar delays. On the other hand Jay Laifman is=
 
about 8 miles east of me and I=E2=80=99ve seen his replies come in quickly =
only to see 
24 hour plus delays on my immediate replies. Could it be our provider 
services??? I have Frontier FIOS (formerly Verizon) and my Verizon email ad=
dress 
runs under the shell of AOL.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp; BTW, Kirk, received your 7:51 AM (Oct. 22nd) reply at 10:58 AM.=
 So, 
a little more than 3 hours. I often email my brother in Sacramento and we v=
olley 
back and forth like it was an instant messenger service with near zero 
delay.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sent Oct. 22nd 12:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=[email-masked].=
net 
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Kirk Smith via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 22, 2018 7:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked] 
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] List delay question</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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7d'>No, 
my replies are usually delayed from several hours to the sometimes the next=
 
day.&nbsp; Sending this at 7:51 a.m. pacific time Oct. 22=E2=80=A6we=E2=80=
=99ll see when it hits 
the list- Kirk<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>steve wick via 
Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 22, 2018 1:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
[email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] List delay 
question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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t often 
post to the list, mainly because there seems to be a delay between when I s=
end a 
response and when my response hits my mailbox. Recently I posted a response=
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question and it was about a day and a half later that my response appeared =
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