Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

From: Derrick Schmidt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC)

--===============1880139107604256302==
	boundary="----=_Part_386608_2113833866.1540412641109"

------=_Part_386608_2113833866.1540412641109
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.=C2=A0
https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s=C2=A0
Derrick=C2=A0

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:

Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering s=
ystem? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in many =
different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and hav=
e found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM is =
a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.=C2=A0 However, they =
are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how cool it=
 is under a Tiger bonnet!
The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260. Als=
o the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon engi=
nes and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of the box.=
 Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl cleanin=
g and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is also a S=
treet Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler but at 625 C=
FM is much too big for a 260.=C2=A0
There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is =
cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality sw=
ill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the Holle=
y Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least invasive sy=
stem I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.=C2=A0

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/snip=
er_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516

Good luck!Bugz

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]=
> wrote:

Hey,
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I =
want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cfm =
on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 =
(500cfm).
Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the Fi=
Tech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
Thanks,Joe Brown_______________________________________________

[email-masked]

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]=
om

_______________________________________________

[email-masked]

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/lovemygirls365@ya=
hoo.com

------=_Part_386608_2113833866.1540412641109
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microso=
ft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[=
if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>=
96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><bo=
dy>
Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/=
1gn_McEhX-s</a>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Derrick&nbsp;<br><div id=3D"=
temp-enhancr-placeholder" class=3D"enhancr-placeholder-medium" data-size=3D=
"medium"></div><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://yho.com/footer0">Sent from Ya=
hoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"fon=
t-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday=
, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv0547539755"=
><div><div><div>Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best=
 fuel metering system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many differen=
t carbs in many different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture=
 correct and have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The =
<a dir=3D"ltr" href=3D"tel:1403%20500" x-apple-data-detectors=3D"true" x-ap=
ple-data-detectors-type=3D"telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result=3D"1">1=
403 500</a> CFM is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.&n=
bsp; However, they are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we a=
ll know how cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on th=
e 260. Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed=
-upon engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out o=
f the box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bo=
wl cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There i=
s also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler bu=
t at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>There are many new FI systems out there and to me the bigg=
est advantage is cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of th=
e poor quality swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will =
install the Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the =
least invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel=
_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516">https://www.holle=
y.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/=
parts/550-516</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Good luck!</div><div>Bugz</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv0547539755gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv054753=
9755yqt2718976860" id=3D"yiv0547539755yqt18520"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Se=
p 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv0547539755gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Hey,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I will be rebuilding my engine so=
on (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.&nbs=
p; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that somet=
hing smaller will work better.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So w=
hich is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500=
cfm).</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech sys=
tem?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truc=
k and he swears by it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks,</div=
><div>Joe Brown</div></div>
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:=
//www.team.net/pipermail/tigers">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Unsubscribe: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"h=
ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]">http://aut=
ox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none=
">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yqt2718976860" id=
=3D"yqt29252">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://=
www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html=
</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.n=
et/pipermail/tigers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers=
</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe: <a shape=3D"rect" hr=
ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/lovemygirl=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></div>
</body></html>
------=_Part_386608_2113833866.1540412641109--

--===============1880139107604256302==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

[email-masked]

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]

--===============1880139107604256302==--

---

From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:14:51 +0000 (UTC)

--===============6026968690838687461==
	boundary="----=_Part_16700382_1034584839.1540433691443"

------=_Part_16700382_1034584839.1540433691443
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Derrick -=C2=A0Looks like a cool setup - an EFI that looks like an old s=
chool carb, although you do have to hide the electronics cable somehow.=C2=
=A0 Please keep the group informed about the outcome of your installation.=
=C2=A0 BTW, list price is about $2500.
- Randy A.

      From: Derrick Schmidt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
 To: Mark Rense <[email-masked]>; Joe Brown <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
  =20
Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.=C2=A0
https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s=C2=A0
Derrick=C2=A0

Good luck!Bugz

Hey,

[email-masked]

[email-masked]

[email-masked]

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]=
t

  =20
------=_Part_16700382_1034584839.1540433691443
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font=
-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">Hi Derrick -=
&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">Looks like a=
 cool setup - an EFI that looks like an old school carb, although you do ha=
ve to hide the electronics cable somehow.&nbsp; Please keep the group infor=
med about the outcome of your installation.&nbsp; BTW, list price is about =
$2500.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156"><br></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">- Randy A.</div><div class=
=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276144"><br><br></=
div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_27613=
9" style=3D"display: block;">  <div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276138"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue,=
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16=
px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276137"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276136"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276271"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276295"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:<=
/span></b> Derrick Schmidt via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mark Rense &lt;mark44124@=
gmail.com&gt;; Joe Brown &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Tigers Den &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, =
October 24, 2018 3:07 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:=
</span></b> Re: [Tigers] Carb Question<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_m=
sg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276275"><br><div id=3D"=
yiv3011243559"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276274">
Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.&nbsp;<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1540148981972_276273"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276291"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540=
148981972_276338">https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s</a>&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276289"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276277">Derrick&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><div=
 class=3D"yiv3011243559enhancr-placeholder-medium" id=3D"yiv3011243559temp-=
enhancr-placeholder" data-size=3D"medium"></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"https://yho.com/footer0" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981=
972_276279">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv3011243559yqt4589353778" id=3D"yiv3011243559yqt9=
3036"><div class=3D"yiv3011243559yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15p=
x;color:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154=
0148981972_276281">On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark Rense vi=
a Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"yiv=
3011243559iosymail" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276287"><div id=
=3D"yiv3011243559"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276286"><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276285"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1540148981972_276284">Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want th=
e best fuel metering system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many di=
fferent carbs in many different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get m=
ixture correct and have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune=
. The <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1540148981972_276340" href=3D"">1403 500</a> CFM is a great and responsiv=
e carb for anything under 250 hp.&nbsp; However, they are definitely more s=
usceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how cool it is under a Tiger bon=
net!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>The 1848 is what I think came =
on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260. Also the Holley 570 Street Avenge=
r works well on moderately breathed-upon engines and tolerates more thermal=
 input but comes way too rich out of the box. Plus they need a full setup (=
butterfly position, accept pump, bowl cleaning and float setup) before runn=
ing, as do all new Holleys. There is also a Street Demon with poly bowls th=
at is claimed to run much cooler but at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.&=
nbsp;</div></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>There are many new FI s=
ystems out there and to me the biggest advantage is cool recirculated fuel,=
 instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality swill that comes out of t=
he pump. I am thinking that I will install the Holley Sniper kit on one of =
my Tigers this winter as it is the least invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen =
so far.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><a=
 rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.holl=
ey.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits=
/parts/550-516">https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection=
/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Good luck!</div><div>Bugz</div><div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv3011243559gma=
il_quote"><div class=3D"yiv3011243559yqt2718976860" id=3D"yiv3011243559yqt1=
8520"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers=
 &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv301=
1243559gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I=
 will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I w=
ant to use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm o=
n it and I understand that something smaller will work better.</div><div><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (4=
65cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv>Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using the=
 FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div>
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
/www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:=
//www.team.net/pipermail/tigers">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Unsubscribe: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"h=
ttp://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]">http://aut=
ox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none=
">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv3011243559yqt27=
18976860" id=3D"yiv3011243559yqt29252">____________________________________=
___________<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate=
.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers">http://www.tea=
m.net/pipermail/tigers</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe=
: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox=
.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]">http://autox.tea=
m.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></div></div>
</div></div><div class=3D"yqt4589353778" id=3D"yqt67771">__________________=
_____________________________<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: =
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Unsubscribe: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mail=
man/options/tigers/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.=
net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></=
div></body></html>
------=_Part_16700382_1034584839.1540433691443--

--===============6026968690838687461==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============6026968690838687461==--

---

From: Cliff Morgan via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 19:46:12 -0600

--===============1660093999290029919==

--000000000000d3a3260579401e35
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Derrick, how did you route/install the return line?  Where did you hook
it up to the rear tanks or line?  Thanks for your information, Cliff

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:37 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Derrick -
> Looks like a cool setup - an EFI that looks like an old school carb,
> although you do have to hide the electronics cable somehow.  Please keep
> the group informed about the outcome of your installation.  BTW, list pri=
ce
> is about $2500.
>
> - Randy A.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Derrick Schmidt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Mark Rense <[email-masked]>; Joe Brown <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
>
> Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.
>
> https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s
>
> Derrick
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering
> system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in ma=
ny
> different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and
> have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500
> CFM is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.  However,
> they are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how
> cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!
>
> The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.
> Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon
> engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of th=
e
> box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl
> cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is
> also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler bu=
t
> at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.
>
> There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage i=
s
> cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality
> swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the
> Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least
> invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.
>
>
>
> https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sn=
iper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516
>
> Good luck!
> Bugz
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
> want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on =
it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 140=
3
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTec=
h
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
>
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
>
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
>
>
>
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
>
>
>

--000000000000d3a3260579401e35
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Derrick, how did you route/install the return line?=C2=
=A0 Where did you hook it up to the rear tanks or line?=C2=A0 Thanks for yo=
ur information, Cliff</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:37 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-co=
lor:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148=
981972_276156">Hi Derrick -=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">Looks like a cool setup - an EFI that l=
ooks like an old school carb, although you do have to hide the electronics =
cable somehow.=C2=A0 Please keep the group informed about the outcome of yo=
ur installation.=C2=A0 BTW, list price is about $2500.</div><div id=3D"m_33=
22557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156"><br></div><div id=
=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">- Randy A.=
</div><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"m_33225572600=
34269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276144"><br><br></div><div class=3D=
"m_3322557260034269949yahoo_quoted" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1540148981972_276139" style=3D"display:block">  <div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px=
" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276138"> <div =
style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gr=
ande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1540148981972_276137"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276136"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"m_=
3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276271"> <hr size=3D"1" =
id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276295"> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Derrick Schmidt via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Mark=
 Rense &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mark441=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:07 P=
M<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] =
Carb Question<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949y_msg_c=
ontainer" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276275=
"><br><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559"><div id=3D"m_332255726=
0034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276274">
Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.=C2=A0<div id=3D"m_33225572=
60034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276273"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276291"><a=
 rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s" id=
=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276338" target=3D"=
_blank">https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s</a>=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_3322557260=
034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276289"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276277">Derr=
ick=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv301124355=
9enhancr-placeholder-medium" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559temp-e=
nhancr-placeholder"></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://yho.com/footer=
0" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276279" targe=
t=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt4589353778" i=
d=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt93036"><div class=3D"m_3322557260=
034269949yiv3011243559yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#71=
5ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1540148981972_276281">On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark=
 Rense via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"m_3322=
557260034269949yiv3011243559iosymail" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1540148981972_276287"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559=
"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276286"><=
div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276285"><div=
 id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276284">Are you=
 trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering system? =
As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in many differe=
nt applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and have found=
 the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The <a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154014=
8981972_276340">1403 500</a> CFM is a great and responsive carb for anythin=
g under 250 hp.=C2=A0 However, they are definitely more susceptible to gas =
boiling, and we all know how cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!</div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and =
worked well on the 260. Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on mo=
derately breathed-upon engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes w=
ay too rich out of the box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position=
, accept pump, bowl cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new=
 Holleys. There is also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to r=
un much cooler but at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.=C2=A0</div></div><=
div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>There are many new FI systems out there a=
nd to me the biggest advantage is cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning an=
d tolerance of the poor quality swill that comes out of the pump. I am thin=
king that I will install the Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this win=
ter as it is the least invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.=C2=A0</div=
><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_in=
jection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper=
_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>Good luck!</div><div>Bugz</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559=
gmail_quote"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt2718976860"=
 id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt18520"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue,=
 Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"m_=
3322557260034269949yiv3011243559gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey,<div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, n=
o modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original own=
er had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will w=
ork better.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So which is a better so=
lution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a=
 friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by =
it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</di=
v></div>
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
te.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pip=
ermail/tigers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Unsubscribe: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.n=
et/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://aut=
ox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none=
">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269=
949yiv3011243559yqt2718976860" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt2=
9252">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http=
://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.h=
tml</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team=
.net/pipermail/tigers</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe:=
 <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/o=
ptions/tigers/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team=
.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote></blockquote></bloc=
kquote></div></div>
</div></div><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yqt4589353778" id=3D"m_33225=
57260034269949yqt67771">_______________________________________________<br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/=
donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=
=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/=
tigers" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://=
autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div> </di=
v> </div>  </div></div></div>______________________________________________=
_<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a><br>
<br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers</a><br>
<br>
Unsubscribe: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cliffo=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.ne=
t/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

--000000000000d3a3260579401e35--

--===============1660093999290029919==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============1660093999290029919==--