Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces

From: Larry Mayfield via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 09:06:19 -0700

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Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows =
the dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, which =
gets its power from the main light switch.  The only thing my schematic =
shows coming from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in =
tank fuel level resistance and to the temp sensor resistor.  Nothing =
going to lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may indeed be =
farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, slowly =
returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything.=20

As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with =
white stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light  =
works. Nothing.  =20

=20

I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. =
I suspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? =
Like v=3Dusing a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to =
ground.  Yeah, I=E2=80=99ll give that a try. =20

=20

Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages =
working! Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long =
latency between when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I =
replaced the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back =
on in the same place so that when I put the new wood in everything, I =
thought, went back in the same location and terminal.=20

=20

Many thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test!

=20

mayf=20

=20

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces

=20

Mayf,

Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the =
voltage stabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" =
and is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the =
firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you pull the =
wires off  be sure to label where each goes because the color coding of =
the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source for the =
stabilizer if that's the problem.

Mark L

=20

In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =

Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The =
pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood =
dash.  Is there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they =
do not come with them. =20

=20

And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with =
the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the =
problems and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does =
not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and =
the panel switch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. =
More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I =
applied dielectric grease as well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the =
heater motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or =
temp. Also purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as =
does the green indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low =
beams), turn signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size =
100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am going to keep after it. =
 Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my =
gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  If I look at the =
back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes where?

=20

Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.

=20

mayf=20

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Mark, perhaps that is =
part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument =
lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its power from the =
main light switch. =C2=A0The only thing my schematic shows coming from =
the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level =
resistance and to the temp sensor resistor. =C2=A0Nothing going to =
lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When =
powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . =
The temp gage does not do anything. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>As to dash lights, I =
have even tried putting voltage on the red with white stripe wire and =
grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light =C2=A0works. Nothing. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I will see if I can get =
the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I suspect that I might =
be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3Dusing a =
voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.=C2=A0 Yeah, =
I=E2=80=99ll give that a try.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Sure will be great to =
get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my =
list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency between when it was =
apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash that when =
I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so that when =
I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same =
location and terminal. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Many thanks for the =
suggestions, new avenues to test!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>mayf =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, =
September 18, 2016 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash =
Pieces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mayf,</span></strong=
><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Pretty sure the =
power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage =
stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about =
2&quot;x2&quot; and is screwed to the support column that goes from the =
dash to the firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you =
pull the wires off&nbsp; be sure to label where each goes because the =
color coding of the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source =
for the stabilizer if that's the problem.</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mark =
L</span></strong><span =
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p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>In a message dated =
9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash =
switches to my car.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on =
switch bezel for use on the wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for =
such?&nbsp; I have the switches but sadly they do not come with =
them.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>And I am having the dickens of a time with the =
instruments: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical =
source or cause of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I =
can. &nbsp;Also there does not seem to be power to that circuit, even =
when I turn the lights on and the panel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced =
the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New =
one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease as well. =
&nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil =
pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a =
brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green =
indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn =
signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands =
(big) in a size 3 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after =
it.&nbsp; Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The =
wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic. =
&nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what =
wire goes where?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least =
some advice or comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_=
________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, =
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From: Veloce Solutions via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:39:07 -0400

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Mayf,

=20

The stabilizer only provides the 10V reference for the fuel and temp =
gauges. It does not supply the gauge illumination. All of the gauge =
lights are fed from a single string that originates at the panel light =
switch. I believe that there may be a connector or 2 in the string but =
it=E2=80=99s basically 1 wire going to all of the gauges. I seem to =
remember having one of the connectors pull loose on my reproduction =
wiring harness and a couple of the gauge lights went out. This could be =
something to check.  The ground is also on a string that connects the =
gauges but if the gauges are working and the lights don=E2=80=99t =
it=E2=80=99s probably not the ground.=20

=20

If the stabilizer has gone bad, neither the fuel or temp gauge will =
work. I=E2=80=99ve run across a couple of cars where the DPO has wired =
the gauges directly to the main 12V source and they wavered with the =
varying voltage output of the generator. If you need a new voltage =
stabilizer, let me know as I have a nice solid state replacement for the =
original bi-metal type.

=20

Hope this helps,

=20

JVP

=20

Veloce_Logo_sm

=20

Joseph V. Parlanti
16048 Copen Meadow Dr
North Potomac, Md. 20878
Cell - 410-599-5475

 <http://velocesolutionsllc.com/> http://velocesolutionsllc.com/

=20

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
CoolVT--- via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:56 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces

=20

Mayf,

Mark L

=20

In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =
[email-masked] writes:

=20

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D'>The stabilizer only provides the 10V reference for the fuel and temp =
gauges. It does not supply the gauge illumination. All of the gauge =
lights are fed from a single string that originates at the panel light =
switch. I believe that there may be a connector or 2 in the string but =
it=E2=80=99s basically 1 wire going to all of the gauges. I seem to =
remember having one of the connectors pull loose on my reproduction =
wiring harness and a couple of the gauge lights went out. This could be =
something to check. =C2=A0The ground is also on a string that connects =
the gauges but if the gauges are working and the lights don=E2=80=99t =
it=E2=80=99s probably not the ground. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>If the stabilizer has gone bad, neither the fuel or temp gauge will =
work. I=E2=80=99ve run across a couple of cars where the DPO has wired =
the gauges directly to the main 12V source and they wavered with the =
varying voltage output of the generator. If you need a new voltage =
stabilizer, let me know as I have a nice solid state replacement for the =
original bi-metal type.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>JVP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><img width=3D170 height=3D43 id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"Veloce_Logo_sm"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Joseph V. Parlanti<br>16048 Copen Meadow Dr<br>North Potomac, Md. =
20878<br>Cell - 410-599-5475<br>Email - <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:#3366FF'>[email-masked]</span></a><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0D00B=
0'><a href=3D"http://velocesolutionsllc.com/"><span =
style=3D'color:#3366FF'>http://velocesolutionsllc.com/</span></a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>CoolVT--- via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 9:56 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash =
Pieces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mayf,</span></stro=
ng><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Pretty sure the =
power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage =
stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about =
2&quot;x2&quot; and is screwed to the support column that goes from the =
dash to the firewall (just to the right of the steering column). If you =
pull the wires off&nbsp; be sure to label where each goes because the =
color coding of the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a source =
for the stabilizer if that's the problem.</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Mark =
L</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>In a message =
dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
img border=3D0 width=3D61 height=3D129 id=3DMA1.1474206937 =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash =
switches to my car.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on =
switch bezel for use on the wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for =
such?&nbsp; I have the switches but sadly they do not come with =
them.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>And I am having the dickens of a time with the =
instruments: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical =
source or cause of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I =
can. &nbsp;Also there does not seem to be power to that circuit, even =
when I turn the lights on and the panel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced =
the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New =
one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease as well. =
&nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil =
pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a =
brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green =
indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn =
signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands =
(big) in a size 3 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after =
it.&nbsp; Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The =
wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic. =
&nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what =
wire goes where?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least =
some advice or comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>mayf <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
>_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a =
><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
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Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 15:28:12 -0400

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Mayf,

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You can check the voltage stabilizer by removing one of the gauge wires =
and connecting the positive lead of the VOM to the stabilizer. Just =
touch the other lead to ground. You should see approx. 10V DC.

=20

JVP

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Veloce_Logo_sm

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Joseph V. Parlanti
16048 Copen Meadow Dr
North Potomac, Md. 20878
Cell - 410-599-5475

=20

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Larry =
Mayfield via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:06 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces

=20

=20

=20

=20

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mayf=20

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Mayf,

Mark L

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D'>You can check the voltage stabilizer by removing one of the gauge =
wires and connecting the positive lead of the VOM to the stabilizer. =
Just touch the other lead to ground. You should see approx. 10V =
DC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
><img width=3D170 height=3D43 id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"Veloce_Logo_sm"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'=
20878<br>Cell - 410-599-5475<br>Email - <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:#3366FF'>[email-masked]</span></a><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0D00B=
0'><a href=3D"http://velocesolutionsllc.com/"><span =
style=3D'color:#3366FF'>http://velocesolutionsllc.com/</span></a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry =
Mayfield via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:06 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash =
Pieces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, =
my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument lights coming from the =
panel light switch, which gets its power from the main light switch. =
&nbsp;The only thing my schematic shows coming from the instrument =
regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resistance and to =
the temp sensor resistor. &nbsp;Nothing going to lights at all. But the =
voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage =
reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do =
anything. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>As to dash lights, I have even tried putting =
voltage on the red with white stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket =
to see if that light &nbsp;works. Nothing. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I will see if I can get =
the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I suspect that I might =
be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3Dusing a =
voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.&nbsp; Yeah, =
I=E2=80=99ll give that a try.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Sure will be great to =
get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my =
list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency between when it was =
apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash that when =
I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so that when =
I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same =
location and terminal. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Many thanks for the =
suggestions, new avenues to test!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>mayf =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"></a><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]</a></span><span =
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Tom Hall sells a very nice solid state voltage stabilizer. I would recommend=
 his. I have one in my car. Also, the lights DO NOT run through the stabiliz=
er=20

Lynn

Sent from my mobile device

> On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows t=
he dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its=
 power from the main light switch.  The only thing my schematic shows coming=
 from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level re=
sistance and to the temp sensor resistor.  Nothing going to lights at all. B=
ut the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel g=
age reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do=
 anything.
> As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage on the red with white=
 stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if that light  works. Nothi=
ng.  =20
> =20
> I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I s=
uspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3D=
using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.  Yeah, I=E2=
=80=99ll give that a try.=20
> =20
> Sure will be great to get dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working!=
 Last items on my list. Part of my [problem stems from a long latency betwee=
n when it was apart and now. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash=
 that when I removed a gauge I put the wires back on in the same place so th=
at when I put the new wood in everything, I thought, went back in the same l=
ocation and terminal.
> mayf
> Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltage s=
tabilizer.  It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed t=
o the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the ri=
ght of the steering column). If you pull the wires off  be sure to label whe=
re each goes because the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. N=
ot sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the problem.
> Mark L
> =20
> In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tigers@au=
tox.team.net writes:
> Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.  The pi=
eces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the wood dash.  I=
s there a source for such?  I have the switches but sadly they do not come w=
ith them.=20
> =20
> And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with th=
e dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the problem=
s and I have been attacking that as best I can.  Also there does not seem to=
 be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel swit=
ch as well.  I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was p=
retty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease a=
s well.  The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake light=
 switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on the d=
ash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all work=
. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash.  So I am=
 going to keep after it.  Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production r=
un? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic.  I=
f I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes wher=
e?
> mayf
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><div style=3D"direction: inherit;">Tom=
 Hall sells a very nice solid state voltage stabilizer. I would recommend hi=
s. I have one in my car. Also, the lights DO NOT run through the stabilizer&=
nbsp;</div><div style=3D"direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style=3D"direct=
ion: inherit;">Lynn</div><br>Sent from my mobile device</div><div><br>On Sep=
 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tige=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Mark, perhaps that is part of my prob=
lem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instrument lights coming from t=
he panel light switch, which gets its power from the main light switch. &nbs=
p;The only thing my schematic shows coming from the instrument regulator are=
 the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resistance and to the temp sensor re=
sistor. &nbsp;Nothing going to lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may=
 indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, s=
lowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything. <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As to dash lights, I=
 have even tried putting voltage on the red with white stripe wire and groun=
ding a bulbs socket to see if that light &nbsp;works. Nothing. &nbsp;&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497=
D">I will see if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I=
 suspect that I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3D=
using a voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.&nbsp; Yea=
h, I=E2=80=99ll give that a try.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure will be great to get dash lig=
hts and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my list. Part of my [=
problem stems from a long latency between when it was apart and now. I do re=
member that when I replaced the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put t=
he wires back on in the same place so that when I put the new wood in everyt=
hing, I thought, went back in the same location and terminal. <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Many thank=
s for the suggestions, new avenues to test!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">mayf <o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"color:#1F497=
D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> [<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, S=
eptember 18, 2016 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@auto=
x.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:black">Mayf,</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the vo=
ltage stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and=
 is screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (j=
ust to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off&nbsp; be=
 sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will pr=
obably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the probl=
em.</span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mark L<=
/span></strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A=
.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tigers@a=
utox.team.net</a> writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left=
:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"col=
or:black">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my car.=
&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use on the=
 wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have the switches but s=
adly they do not come with them.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"colo=
r:black">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instruments: mostly w=
ith the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or cause of the p=
roblems and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Also there does n=
ot seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the p=
anel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More=
 voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied diel=
ectric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn honks the heater moto=
r runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also pur=
chased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green ind=
icator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals an=
d stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3=
 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&nbsp; Was there an wiring=
 change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does n=
ot look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at the back side of the fuel gag=
e and temp gage what wire goes where?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:bl=
ack">Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least some advice or comment.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-=
bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black">mayf <o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:black">_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbea=
m, period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph exit (not top)&nbsp; sp=
eed<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
black"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><a hre=
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From: Tony Lang via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:41:38 +0000 (UTC)

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Dr. Mayf- those bulbs you powered and then grounded but they still didn't l=
ight up...... Have you used your VOM to make sure those bulbs are still goo=
d? After all they aren't close to new. Joe Valence has a new set up I plan =
on buy when I install my new dash which has much brighter bulbs, including =
brake and tail light. I know you are back to the size 10 hands if U exchang=
ed the bulbs but I think it is still a good investment,as always, TonytheTi=
ger=C2=A0Tony Lang (TtT)

      From: Cars via Tigers <[email-masked]>
 To: Larry Mayfield <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: [email-masked]
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces
  =20
Tom Hall sells a very nice solid state voltage stabilizer. I would recommen=
d his. I have one in my car. Also, the lights DO NOT run through the stabil=
izer=C2=A0
Lynn
Sent from my mobile device
On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:

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v3309024102 Mark, perhaps that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schema=
tic shows the dash instrument lights coming from the panel light switch, wh=
ich gets its power from the main light switch. =C2=A0The only thing my sche=
matic shows coming from the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in=
 tank fuel level resistance and to the temp sensor resistor. =C2=A0Nothing =
going to lights at all. But the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. W=
hen powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 =
. The temp gage does not do anything. As to dash lights, I have even tried =
putting voltage on the red with white stripe wire and grounding a bulbs soc=
ket to see if that light =C2=A0works. Nothing. =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0I will se=
e if I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I suspect th=
at I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3Dusing a =
voltmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.=C2=A0 Yeah, I=E2=
=80=99ll give that a try.=C2=A0  =C2=A0Sure will be great to get dash light=
s and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my list. Part of my [p=
roblem stems from a long latency between when it was apart and now. I do re=
member that when I replaced the old dash that when I removed a gauge I put =
the wires back on in the same place so that when I put the new wood in ever=
ything, I thought, went back in the same location and terminal.  =C2=A0Many=
 thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test! =C2=A0mayf  =C2=A0From: C=
[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:56 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces =C2=A0Mayf,Pretty sure the power to the g=
auges and dash lights come from the voltage stabilizer.=C2=A0 It's a little=
 squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is screwed to the support column th=
at goes from the dash to the firewall (just to the right of the steering co=
lumn). If you pull the wires off=C2=A0 be sure to label where each goes bec=
ause the color coding of the wires will probably be faded. Not sure of a so=
urce for the stabilizer if that's the problem.Mark L=C2=A0In a message date=
d 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email-masked] write=
s:
Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches to my=
 car.=C2=A0 The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for use =
on the wood dash.=C2=A0 Is there a source for such?=C2=A0 I have the switch=
es but sadly they do not come with them.=C2=A0  =C2=A0And I am having the d=
ickens of a time with the instruments: mostly with the dash lights. I know =
grounds are the typical source or cause of the problems and I have been att=
acking that as best I can. =C2=A0Also there does not seem to be power to th=
at circuit, even when I turn the lights on and the panel switch as well.=C2=
=A0 I replaced the fuse block and that did help. More voltage. Was pretty c=
orroded. New one has a spiffy cover and I applied dielectric grease as well=
. =C2=A0The wipers work, the horn honks the heater motor runs, have oil pre=
ssure, but no dash light or fuel level or temp. Also purchased a brake ligh=
t switch as well. Turn signals work as does the green indicator light on th=
e dash. Head lights ( high and low beams), turn signals and stop light all =
work. Part of the issue is size 100 hands (big) in a size 3 under dash. =C2=
=A0So I am going to keep after it.=C2=A0 Was there an wiring change in the =
MK1 production run? The wiring on my gas and temp gages does not look like =
the schematic. =C2=A0If I look at the back side of the fuel gage and temp g=
age what wire goes where? =C2=A0Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at le=
ast some advice or comment. =C2=A0mayf _________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit (not top)=C2=A0 speed =C2=A0

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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font=
-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474135213603_60867"><span id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1474135213603_61248">Dr. Mayf- those bulbs you powered and then grou=
nded but they still didn't light up...... Have you used your VOM to make su=
re those bulbs are still good? After all they aren't close to new. Joe Vale=
nce has a new set up I plan on buy when I install my new dash which has muc=
h brighter bulbs, including brake and tail light. I know you are back to th=
e size 10 hands if U exchanged the bulbs but I think it is still a good inv=
estment,</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474135213603_60867" dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>as always, TonytheTiger</span></div><div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1474135213603_60862">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"signature" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1474135213603_60860"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474135213603_60859">To=
ny Lang (TtT)<var id=3D"yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div><div class=3D"qtdS=
eparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1474135213603_60850"><br><br></div><div class=
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font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Cars via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Larry Mayfi=
eld &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:=
</span></b> [email-masked]<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"=
>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 7:11 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"=
font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces<br> </font=
> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv3309024102"><div>=
<div><div style=3D"direction:inherit;">Tom Hall sells a very nice solid sta=
te voltage stabilizer. I would recommend his. I have one in my car. Also, t=
he lights DO NOT run through the stabilizer&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"direct=
ion:inherit;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"direction:inherit;">Ly=
nn</div><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my mobile device</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none">On Sep 18, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers &lt;<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=
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#yiv3309024102 </style><div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102WordSection1"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Mark, perhap=
s that is part of my problem, But, my wiring schematic shows the dash instr=
ument lights coming from the panel light switch, which gets its power from =
the main light switch. &nbsp;The only thing my schematic shows coming from =
the instrument regulator are the 10 volts to the in tank fuel level resista=
nce and to the temp sensor resistor. &nbsp;Nothing going to lights at all. =
But the voltage stabilizer may indeed be farkled. When powered on, the fuel=
 gage reads full and when off, slowly returns to 0 . The temp gage does not=
 do anything. </span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:#1F497D;">As to dash lights, I have even tried putting voltage o=
n the red with white stripe wire and grounding a bulbs socket to see if tha=
t light &nbsp;works. Nothing. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv330=
9024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">I will see i=
f I can get the stabilizer out and check its functionality. I suspect that =
I might be able to do that without removing it though? Like v=3Dusing a vol=
tmeter on the GB wire from the =3Dstabilizer to ground.&nbsp; Yeah, I=E2=80=
=99ll give that a try.&nbsp; </span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv33=
09024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Sure will be great to get=
 dash lights and the temp and fuel gages working! Last items on my list. Pa=
rt of my [problem stems from a long latency between when it was apart and n=
ow. I do remember that when I replaced the old dash that when I removed a g=
auge I put the wires back on in the same place so that when I put the new w=
ood in everything, I thought, went back in the same location and terminal. =
</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F=
497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:#1F497D;">Many thanks for the suggestions, new avenues to test!<=
/span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F4=
97D;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D;">mayf </span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"=
><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" name=3D"_MailEndCompose" href=3D""><spa=
n style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></a></div><div><div style=3D"borde=
r:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">From:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:CoolVT=
@aol.com">[email-masked]</a> [<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ma=
ilto:[email-masked]</a>] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September =
18, 2016 6:56 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Dash Pieces</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"yi=
v3309024102MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNorma=
l"><strong><span style=3D"">Mayf,</span></strong><span style=3D""></span></=
div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D=
"">Pretty sure the power to the gauges and dash lights come from the voltag=
e stabilizer.&nbsp; It's a little squarish, metal device about 2"x2" and is=
 screwed to the support column that goes from the dash to the firewall (jus=
t to the right of the steering column). If you pull the wires off&nbsp; be =
sure to label where each goes because the color coding of the wires will pr=
obably be faded. Not sure of a source for the stabilizer if that's the prob=
lem.</span></strong><span style=3D""></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"=
yiv3309024102MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"">Mark L</span></strong><spa=
n style=3D""></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv330902=
4102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">In a message dated 9/18/2016 4:15:19 A.M. E=
astern Daylight Time, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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in-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div class=3D"yiv3309=
024102MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</sp=
an></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102yqt7437865069" id=3D"yiv3309024102yqtfd=
32324"></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102yqt7437865069" id=3D"yiv3309024102y=
qtfd38646"><div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal" style=3D""><span styl=
e=3D"color:black;">Ok, I am replacing and adding a couple of dash switches =
to my car.&nbsp; The pieces I need are the chrome screw on switch bezel for=
 use on the wood dash.&nbsp; Is there a source for such?&nbsp; I have the s=
witches but sadly they do not come with them.&nbsp; </span></div><div class=
=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;=
</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=
=3D"color:black;">And I am having the dickens of a time with the instrument=
s: mostly with the dash lights. I know grounds are the typical source or ca=
use of the problems and I have been attacking that as best I can. &nbsp;Als=
o there does not seem to be power to that circuit, even when I turn the lig=
hts on and the panel switch as well.&nbsp; I replaced the fuse block and th=
at did help. More voltage. Was pretty corroded. New one has a spiffy cover =
and I applied dielectric grease as well. &nbsp;The wipers work, the horn ho=
nks the heater motor runs, have oil pressure, but no dash light or fuel lev=
el or temp. Also purchased a brake light switch as well. Turn signals work =
as does the green indicator light on the dash. Head lights ( high and low b=
eams), turn signals and stop light all work. Part of the issue is size 100 =
hands (big) in a size 3 under dash. &nbsp;So I am going to keep after it.&n=
bsp; Was there an wiring change in the MK1 production run? The wiring on my=
 gas and temp gages does not look like the schematic. &nbsp;If I look at th=
e back side of the fuel gage and temp gage what wire goes where?</span></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv3309024102MsoNormal" style=3D""><=
span style=3D"color:black;">Some remote help needed here=E2=80=A6 at least =
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From: Gary Winblad via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:27:41 -0700

Getting back to the original complaint:
On 9/18/2016 9:06 AM, Larry Mayfield via Tigers wrote:
> When powered on, the fuel gage reads full and when off, slowly returns 
> to 0 . The temp gage does not do anything. 

If the engine is cold and the tank is full, this is exactly what should 
happen, no?
If the tank is not full, there is a stray ground short or bad fuel sensor.
Gary

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