Subject: Re: [Tigers] progress

From: phastphill--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:46:20 -0400

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I'd be temped to try and find an alpine with an ok body and use it as a parts car.....use what you need then sell the rest

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From: daniel doornbos via Tigers <[email-masked]>
To: tigers <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 4:05 pm
Subject: [Tigers] progress

The tiger has been sandblasted.  The undercoating on my car was going to be impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess of the garage, driveway and myself.  So I had it sandblasted inside and out, 100%.  In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was significant and I should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the interior holes as I spent a good bit of time getting sand out.  The blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the vin tags.  I am really happy that its all done.  I epoxy Primered the car and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking hold.

Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and then take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail.  Will let him tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back.  Or the 3rd possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I don't think that's the case.

The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of bondo.  I think the car was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never had the motor returned.  It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in 95.  The problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, the door is fine (probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage.  I'm at a cross road as the car has flares (best image of the flares) at all 4 corners.  Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer the flare?  Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from the other 3 piecing in new arches?    Anyone have a driver rear fenders for sale plus 3 arches?  Anyone have the same style of steel rear flare tucked away in the garage?  
dan

Most recent photos are at the end of the album.  Primary purpose of the photos are to help me put this thing back together... 
https://goo.gl/photos/9fkVPwxGhw1mMKuM6 

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<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>I'd be temped to try and find an alpine with an ok body and use it as a parts car.....use what you need then sell the rest<br>
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<div>The tiger has been sandblasted. &nbsp;The undercoating on my car was going to be impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess of the garage, driveway and myself. &nbsp;So I had it sandblasted inside and out, 100%. &nbsp;In hindsight the sand removal
 and clean up was significant and I should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the interior&nbsp;holes as I spent a good bit of time getting sand out. &nbsp;The blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the vin tags. &nbsp;I am really happy that its all done.
 &nbsp;I epoxy Primered the car and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking hold.</div>

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<div>Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and then take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail. &nbsp;Will let him tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back. &nbsp;Or the 3rd possibility that the prior repair and
 alignment is OK, but I don't think that's the case.</div>

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<div>The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of&nbsp;bondo. &nbsp;I think the car was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never had the motor returned. &nbsp;It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in 95. &nbsp;The problem is the driver rear fender
 is in very bad shape, the door is fine (probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage. &nbsp;I'm at a cross road as the car has flares (<a target="_blank" href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-VqG2phw7NmWCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_lnQN8xj6YX9UPw?key=ZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRaWVNDS3l5Unln">best
 image of the flares</a>)&nbsp;at all 4 corners. &nbsp;Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer the flare? &nbsp;Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from the other 3 piecing in new arches? &nbsp; &nbsp;Anyone have a driver rear&nbsp;fenders&nbsp;for sale plus
 3 arches? &nbsp;Anyone have the same style of steel rear flare tucked away in the garage? &nbsp;</div>

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<div>Most recent photos are at the end of the album. &nbsp;Primary purpose of the photos are to help me put this thing back together...&nbsp;</div>

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:35:55 -0400

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Dan

                It's very hard to make decisions like this without parts on
hand.  There have at times been panels available but I don't know if they
are anymore.  You probably need to find a donor car unless someone contacts
you about them.   You can try putting a Want Ad on Sunbeam Forum sites.
Check the internet, check with Classic Sunbeam, I see panels there but not
sure if full panels or patch panels.  Talk to your body man first for
suggestions - he may be able to repair some of the panels

                I'm in the " I like stock look category" but this is your
car - make it the way you want.  

I do suggest that you re-enforce the rear spring perches - even the stock
260 engine will eventually stress crack them - more HP will make it happen
sooner.   Tom Hall has a kit that gets welded on.

Ron Fraser

From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of daniel
doornbos via Tigers
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 1:19 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] progress

The tiger has been sandblasted.  The undercoating on my car was going to be
impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess of the
garage, driveway and myself.  So I had it sandblasted inside and out, 100%.
In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was significant and I should have
skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the interior holes as I
spent a good bit of time getting sand out.  The blaster uses gorilla tape to
protect the vin tags.  I am really happy that its all done.  I epoxy
Primered the car and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking
hold.

Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and then
take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail.  Will let him
tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back.  Or the 3rd
possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I don't think
that's the case.

The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of bondo.  I think the car
was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never had the
motor returned.  It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in 95.  The
problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, the door is fine
(probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage.  I'm at a cross road
as the car has flares (best image of the flares
<https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-VqG2phw7Nm
WCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_lnQN8xj6YX9UP
w?key=ZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRaWVNDS3l5Unln> ) at all 4 corners.  Do I
seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer the flare?  Do I put a
stock fender on and then remove the flares from the other 3 piecing in new
arches?    Anyone have a driver rear fenders for sale plus 3 arches?  Anyone
have the same style of steel rear flare tucked away in the garage?  

dan

Most recent photos are at the end of the album.  Primary purpose of the
photos are to help me put this thing back together... 

 

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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; It&#8217;s very hard to make decisions like this without parts on =
hand.&nbsp; There have at times been panels available but I don&#8217;t =
know if they are anymore.&nbsp; You probably need to find a donor car =
unless someone contacts you about them.&nbsp;&nbsp; You can try putting =
a Want Ad on Sunbeam Forum sites.&nbsp; Check the internet, check with =
Classic Sunbeam, I see panels there but not sure if full panels or patch =
panels.&nbsp; Talk to your body man first for suggestions &#8211; he may =
be able to repair some of the panels<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; I&#8217;m in the &#8220; I like stock look category&#8221; but this =
is your car &#8211; make it the way you want.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I do suggest =
that you re-enforce the rear spring perches &#8211; even the stock 260 =
engine will eventually stress crack them &#8211; more HP will make it =
happen sooner.&nbsp;&nbsp; Tom Hall has a kit that gets welded =
on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>daniel =
doornbos via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2016 1:19 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
progress<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
id=3Ddivtagdefaultwrapper><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The tiger has =
been sandblasted. &nbsp;The undercoating on my car was going to be =
impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess of =
the garage, driveway and myself. &nbsp;So I had it sandblasted inside =
and out, 100%. &nbsp;In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was =
significant and I should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked =
off all the interior&nbsp;holes as I spent a good bit of time getting =
sand out. &nbsp;The blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the vin tags. =
&nbsp;I am really happy that its all done. &nbsp;I epoxy Primered the =
car and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking =
hold.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Next step is to =
put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and then take it to =
the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail. &nbsp;Will let him tell =
me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back. &nbsp;Or the 3rd =
possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I don't think =
that's the case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The sand blast =
did uncover significant amounts of&nbsp;bondo. &nbsp;I think the car was =
crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never had the =
motor returned. &nbsp;It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in =
95. &nbsp;The problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, =
the door is fine (probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage. =
&nbsp;I'm at a cross road as the car has flares (<a =
href=3D"https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-=
VqG2phw7NmWCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_=
lnQN8xj6YX9UPw?key=3DZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRaWVNDS3l5Unln">best =
image of the flares</a>)&nbsp;at all 4 corners. &nbsp;Do I seek out a =
donor fender for the rear and transfer the flare? &nbsp;Do I put a stock =
fender on and then remove the flares from the other 3 piecing in new =
arches? &nbsp; &nbsp;Anyone have a driver rear&nbsp;fenders&nbsp;for =
sale plus 3 arches? &nbsp;Anyone have the same style of steel rear flare =
tucked away in the garage? &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>dan<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Most recent =
photos are at the end of the album. &nbsp;Primary purpose of the photos =
are to help me put this thing back =
together...&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://goo.gl/photos/9fkVPwxGhw1mMKuM6" =
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o:p></span></p><p><span =
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:31:33 -0700

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I just looked at the pictures.  I too prefer original.  However, as flares
go, these seem to have a nice shape.  They may also expand your option for
larger wheels and tires - which are certainly a problem with stock 13" size
wheels!  So maybe just get a new back left fender and have someone move the
flare over!

Oh, and if you need another tandem, I've gone one I'd love to sell!

Jay

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Dan
>
>                 It=E2=80=99s very hard to make decisions like this withou=
t parts
> on hand.  There have at times been panels available but I don=E2=80=99t k=
now if
> they are anymore.  You probably need to find a donor car unless someone
> contacts you about them.   You can try putting a Want Ad on Sunbeam Forum
> sites.  Check the internet, check with Classic Sunbeam, I see panels ther=
e
> but not sure if full panels or patch panels.  Talk to your body man first
> for suggestions =E2=80=93 he may be able to repair some of the panels
>
>
>
>                 I=E2=80=99m in the =E2=80=9C I like stock look category=
=E2=80=9D but this is your
> car =E2=80=93 make it the way you want.
>
>
>
> I do suggest that you re-enforce the rear spring perches =E2=80=93 even t=
he stock
> 260 engine will eventually stress crack them =E2=80=93 more HP will make =
it happen
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *dani=
el
> doornbos via Tigers
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2016 1:19 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [Tigers] progress
>
>
>
> The tiger has been sandblasted.  The undercoating on my car was going to
> be impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess =
of
> the garage, driveway and myself.  So I had it sandblasted inside and out,
> 100%.  In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was significant and I
> should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the
> interior holes as I spent a good bit of time getting sand out.  The blast=
er
> uses gorilla tape to protect the vin tags.  I am really happy that its al=
l
> done.  I epoxy Primered the car and parts over the weekend to prevent rus=
t
> from taking hold.
>
>
>
> Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and the=
n
> (probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage.  I'm at a cross ro=
ad
> <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-VqG2phw=
7NmWCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_lnQN8xj6Y=
X9UPw?key=3DZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRaWVNDS3l5Unln>) at
> all 4 corners.  Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer th=
e
> flare?  Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from the
> other 3 piecing in new arches?    Anyone have a driver rear fenders for
> sale plus 3 arches?  Anyone have the same style of steel rear flare tucke=
d
> away in the garage?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I just looked at the pictures.=C2=A0 I too prefer original=
.=C2=A0 However, as flares go, these seem to have a nice shape.=C2=A0 They =
may also expand your option for larger wheels and tires - which are certain=
ly a problem with stock 13&quot; size wheels!=C2=A0 So maybe just get a new=
 back left fender and have someone move the flare over!<div><br></div><div>=
Oh, and if you need another tandem, I&#39;ve gone one I&#39;d love to sell!=
</div><div><br></div><div>Jay</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Ron Fraser via Tig=
ers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,sans-serif">Dan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s very hard to make decisions like this without par=
ts on hand.=C2=A0 There have at times been panels available but I don=E2=80=
=99t know if they are anymore.=C2=A0 You probably need to find a donor car =
unless someone contacts you about them.=C2=A0=C2=A0 You can try putting a W=
ant Ad on Sunbeam Forum sites.=C2=A0 Check the internet, check with Classic=
 Sunbeam, I see panels there but not sure if full panels or patch panels.=
=C2=A0 Talk to your body man first for suggestions =E2=80=93 he may be able=
 to repair some of the panels<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-seri=
f"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 I=E2=80=99m in the =E2=80=9C I like stock look category=E2=80=9D but this =
is your car =E2=80=93 make it the way you want.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans=
-serif">I do suggest that you re-enforce the rear spring perches =E2=80=93 =
even the stock 260 engine will eventually stress crack them =E2=80=93 more =
HP will make it happen sooner.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Tom Hall has a kit that gets wel=
ded on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"borde=
r:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Tigers [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tiger=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>daniel doornbos via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Mon=
day, September 26, 2016 1:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Tigers] progress<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The tiger has been sandblasted.=C2=A0 The und=
ercoating on my car was going to be impossible to remove without a ton of t=
ime and making a horrible mess of the garage, driveway and myself.=C2=A0 So=
 I had it sandblasted inside and out, 100%.=C2=A0 In hindsight the sand rem=
oval and clean up was significant and I should have skipped the interior sa=
nd blast and masked off all the interior=C2=A0holes as I spent a good bit o=
f time getting sand out.=C2=A0 The blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the=
 vin tags.=C2=A0 I am really happy that its all done.=C2=A0 I epoxy Primere=
d the car and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking hold.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Next step is to put the Fr=
ont and Rear end on the car so it rolls and then take it to the frame shop =
to fix the passenger front rail.=C2=A0 Will let him tell me if I need a rep=
lacement or if he can bend it back.=C2=A0 Or the 3rd possibility that the p=
rior repair and alignment is OK, but I don&#39;t think that&#39;s the case.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The sand blast did un=
cover significant amounts of=C2=A0bondo.=C2=A0 I think the car was crashed,=
 motor removed and body work completed but then never had the motor returne=
d.=C2=A0 It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in 95.=C2=A0 The prob=
lem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, the door is fine (proba=
bly replaced) and the front fender minor damage.=C2=A0 I&#39;m at a cross r=
oad as the car has flares (<a href=3D"https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Qi=
pNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-VqG2phw7NmWCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1=
QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_lnQN8xj6YX9UPw?key=3DZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRa=
WVNDS3l5Unln" target=3D"_blank">best image of the flares</a>)=C2=A0at all 4=
 corners.=C2=A0 Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer the =
flare?=C2=A0 Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from the=
 other 3 piecing in new arches? =C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyone have a driver rear=C2=
=A0fenders=C2=A0for sale plus 3 arches?=C2=A0 Anyone have the same style of=
 steel rear flare tucked away in the garage? =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=
dan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Most recent photos=
 are at the end of the album.=C2=A0 Primary purpose of the photos are to he=
lp me put this thing back together...=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href=
=3D"https://goo.gl/photos/9fkVPwxGhw1mMKuM6" target=3D"_blank">https://goo.=
gl/photos/<wbr>9fkVPwxGhw1mMKuM6</a>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div></div><br=
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From: Gary Winblad via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:00:44 -0700

My thoughts...
If you are wanting a nice driver to keep and enjoy (like me), I would 
just get the one fender fixed.  Without
the gas tank they can get to most of it to pound it straight again. Back 
in the day, all the best cars by the
club founder guys had BIG flares, your smallish ones aren't nearly as 
rad.  If you go ahead and leave them
but finish the car, later you COULD remove/restore them to stock while 
the car is still a driver... of course
don't do any super trick paint and save some of the exact color and paint.
If you want a high buck collector car with perfect stock fenders sell 
this one and buy one of those already
finished, you'll always be under water if you try to do it to yours.
You and a few others have motivated me finally to start pounding off the 
paint and bondo on my rat rod
Tiger..  finding BAD stuff  from years past...  you are not alone!
Gary

On 9/26/2016 10:19 AM, daniel doornbos via Tigers wrote:
>
> The tiger has been sandblasted.  The undercoating on my car was going 
> to be impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible 
> mess of the garage, driveway and myself.  So I had it sandblasted 
> inside and out, 100%.  In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was 
> significant and I should have skipped the interior sand blast and 
> masked off all the interior holes as I spent a good bit of time 
> getting sand out.  The blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the vin 
> tags.  I am really happy that its all done.  I epoxy Primered the car 
> and parts over the weekend to prevent rust from taking hold.
>
>
> Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and 
> then take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail.  Will 
> let him tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back.  Or 
> the 3rd possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I 
> don't think that's the case.
>
>
> The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of bondo.  I think the 
> car was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never 
> had the motor returned.  It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it 
> in 95.  The problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, 
> the door is fine (probably replaced) and the front fender minor 
> damage.  I'm at a cross road as the car has flares (best image of the 
> flares 
> <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNhx7DaGd_6kYAxzcDV2Mr52Mwj-VqG2phw7NmWCZQmIg2bjwpI-WiHGl28V-WURg/photo/AF1QipPbhwRexXIJJ2bSVHcDEfYM_lnQN8xj6YX9UPw?key=ZXNOMzVCTENIOHlnN0txMk5GbkRaWVNDS3l5Unln>) at 
> all 4 corners.  Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer 
> the flare?  Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from 
> the other 3 piecing in new arches?    Anyone have a driver 
> rear fenders for sale plus 3 arches?  Anyone have the same style of 
> steel rear flare tucked away in the garage?
>
> dan
>
>
> Most recent photos are at the end of the album.  Primary purpose of 
> the photos are to help me put this thing back together...
>
> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/[email-masked]
>
>

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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:51:27 -0700

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Daniel,

That (image 1) is a bit concerning because the rust often extends into =
the rocker even if it looks OK on the outside.  This is what Bondo hid =
on my car (image 2). The other side was so bad I had to replace the =
inner rocker too.  On the =E2=80=9Cgood=E2=80=9D side (yes, the one you =
are looking at) I cut the outer rocker off. I removed the rust on the =
inner rocker (somewhat pock marked, but livable) and then welded on the =
new outer rocker.  I made a lower/front wheel well access plate for the =
rocker and as opposed to welding it on, I secured it with a bolt.  That =
way I was able to liberally apply POR15 to the inner areas AFTER they =
were welded. These are the pieces (image 3) I wound up removing and the =
reason I have concern. Most looked OK from the outside. All the best in =
your venture.  Tom

From: daniel doornbos via Tigers=20
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:19 AM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Tigers] progress

The tiger has been sandblasted.  The undercoating on my car was going to =
be impossible to remove without a ton of time and making a horrible mess =
of the garage, driveway and myself.  So I had it sandblasted inside and =
out, 100%.  In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was significant =
and I should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the =
interior holes as I spent a good bit of time getting sand out.  The =
blaster uses gorilla tape to protect the vin tags.  I am really happy =
that its all done.  I epoxy Primered the car and parts over the weekend =
to prevent rust from taking hold.

Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and =
then take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail.  Will =
let him tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back.  Or =
the 3rd possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I =
don't think that's the case.

The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of bondo.  I think the =
car was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never =
had the motor returned.  It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in =
95.  The problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, the =
door is fine (probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage.  I'm =
at a cross road as the car has flares (best image of the flares) at all =
4 corners.  Do I seek out a donor fender for the rear and transfer the =
flare?  Do I put a stock fender on and then remove the flares from the =
other 3 piecing in new arches?    Anyone have a driver rear fenders for =
sale plus 3 arches?  Anyone have the same style of steel rear flare =
tucked away in the garage? =20

dan

Most recent photos are at the end of the album.  Primary purpose of the =
photos are to help me put this thing back together...=20

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<DIV>That (image 1) is a bit concerning because the rust often extends =
into the=20
rocker even if it looks OK on the outside.&nbsp; This is what Bondo hid =
on my=20
car (image 2). The other side was so bad I had to replace the inner =
rocker=20
too.&nbsp; On the =E2=80=9Cgood=E2=80=9D side (yes, the one you are =
looking at) I cut the outer=20
rocker off. I removed the rust on the inner rocker (somewhat pock =
marked, but=20
livable) and then welded on the new outer rocker.&nbsp; I made a =
lower/front=20
wheel well access plate for the rocker and as opposed to welding it on, =
I=20
secured it with a bolt.&nbsp; That way I was able to liberally apply =
POR15 to=20
the inner areas AFTER they were welded. These are the pieces (image 3) I =
wound=20
up removing and the reason I have concern. Most looked OK from the =
outside. All=20
the best in your venture.&nbsp; Tom</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">daniel doornbos via Tigers</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 26, 2016 10:19 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] progress</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<P>The tiger has been sandblasted.&nbsp; The undercoating on my car was =
going to=20
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of the=20
garage, driveway and myself.&nbsp; So I had it sandblasted inside and =
out,=20
100%.&nbsp; In hindsight the sand removal and clean up was significant =
and I=20
should have skipped the interior sand blast and masked off all the =
interior=20
holes as I spent a good bit of time getting sand out.&nbsp; The blaster =
uses=20
gorilla tape to protect the vin tags.&nbsp; I am really happy that its =
all=20
done.&nbsp; I epoxy Primered the car and parts over the weekend to =
prevent rust=20
from taking hold.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Next step is to put the Front and Rear end on the car so it rolls and =
then=20
take it to the frame shop to fix the passenger front rail.&nbsp; Will =
let him=20
tell me if I need a replacement or if he can bend it back.&nbsp; Or the =
3rd=20
possibility that the prior repair and alignment is OK, but I don't think =
that's=20
the case.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>The sand blast did uncover significant amounts of bondo.&nbsp; I =
think the=20
car was crashed, motor removed and body work completed but then never =
had the=20
motor returned.&nbsp; It was then sold to Steve W, and I bought it in =
95.&nbsp;=20
The problem is the driver rear fender is in very bad shape, the door is =
fine=20
(probably replaced) and the front fender minor damage.&nbsp; I'm at a =
cross road=20
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fender=20
for the rear and transfer the flare?&nbsp; Do I put a stock fender on =
and then=20
remove the flares from the other 3 piecing in new =
arches?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Anyone have a driver rear fenders for sale plus 3 arches?&nbsp; Anyone =
have the=20
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<P><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">dan</SPAN><BR></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Most recent photos are at the end of the album.&nbsp; Primary purpose =
of the=20
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