Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels

From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 06:28:55 -0800

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That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand it.  I think there
is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties catalog.  The wheels
did not have the groove on the inner lip for the tire bead to seat - or it
was not as deep as more modern wheels.  That was one of the selling points
of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper groove.  So it sounds like people
may put tubes in for that reason.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bruner via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Are the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?  I took the old tires off of
> mine, and they all had tubes in them.  I also need to refinish the wheels,
> and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined surfaces with too
> harsh of an abrasive.  I was thinking soda blasting might be the best
> choice?  Any suggestions?
>
> Richard
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand i=
t.=C2=A0 I think there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties=
 catalog.=C2=A0 The wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for the=
 tire bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.=C2=A0 Tha=
t was one of the selling points of Rick&#39;s LAT wheels - he added a deepe=
r groove.=C2=A0 So it sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov =
5, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bruner via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Are the LAT 9 wheels=
 supposed to be tubeless?=C2=A0 I took the old tires
off of mine, and they all had tubes in them.=C2=A0 I also need to refinish
the wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined
surfaces with too harsh of an abrasive.=C2=A0 I was thinking soda blasting
might be the best choice?=C2=A0 Any suggestions?<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fon=
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 10:45:28 -0800

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A while back I recall looking into using a tube in a modern tire and the =
resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are =
coarse and abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would =
produce a modern type tire and have the interior constructed to suit a =
very small minority of drivers?  Anyway, this is just a =E2=80=9CSafety =
First=E2=80=9D FYI.  I=E2=80=99m not saying people haven=E2=80=99t used =
tubes and had no issues. I=E2=80=99m just restating what I read.

From: Jay Laifman via Tigers=20
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:28 AM
To: Richard Bruner=20
Cc: Tiger's Den=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels

That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand it.  I think =
there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties catalog.  The =
wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for the tire bead to =
seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.  That was one of the =
selling points of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper groove.  So it =
sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bruner via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  Are the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?  I took the old tires =
off of mine, and they all had tubes in them.  I also need to refinish =
the wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined =
surfaces with too harsh of an abrasive.  I was thinking soda blasting =
might be the best choice?  Any suggestions?

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<DIV dir=3Dltr>That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand =
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the tire=20
bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.&nbsp; That =
was one=20
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From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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FWIW, I have had tubes on the insides of my Alpine wire wheels with modern
tires for 30+ years. They have been powdered before going in each time.
Perhaps that has made the difference.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> A while back I recall looking into using a tube in a modern tire and the
> resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are coars=
e
> and abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would produce a
> modern type tire and have the interior constructed to suit a very small
> minority of drivers?  Anyway, this is just a =E2=80=9CSafety First=E2=80=
=9D FYI.  I=E2=80=99m not
> saying people haven=E2=80=99t used tubes and had no issues. I=E2=80=99m j=
ust restating what
> I read.
>
> *From:* Jay Laifman via Tigers <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:28 AM
> *To:* Richard Bruner <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Tiger's Den <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels
>
> That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand it.  I think
> there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties catalog.  The
> wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for the tire bead to seat=
 -
> or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.  That was one of the selling
> points of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper groove.  So it sounds lik=
e
> people may put tubes in for that reason.
>
>> Are the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?  I took the old tires off
>> of mine, and they all had tubes in them.  I also need to refinish the
>> wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined surfac=
es
>> with too harsh of an abrasive.  I was thinking soda blasting might be th=
e
>> best choice?  Any suggestions?
>>
>> Richard
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<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW, I have had tubes on the insides of my Alpine wire wh=
eels with modern tires for 30+ years. They have been powdered before going =
in each time.=C2=A0 Perhaps that has made the difference.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:4=
5 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>A while back I recall looking into using a tube in a modern tire and t=
he=20
resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are coarse =
and=20
abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would produce a modern =
type=20
tire and have the interior constructed to suit a very small minority of=20
drivers?=C2=A0 Anyway, this is just a =E2=80=9CSafety First=E2=80=9D FYI.=
=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not saying=20
people haven=E2=80=99t used tubes and had no issues. I=E2=80=99m just resta=
ting what I=20
read.</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
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autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Jay Laifman via Tigers</a> </div>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand i=
t.=C2=A0=20
I think there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties=20
catalog.=C2=A0 The wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for the =
tire=20
bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.=C2=A0 That was =
one=20
of the selling points of Rick&#39;s LAT wheels - he added a deeper groove.=
=C2=A0 So=20
it sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.</div>
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  the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?=C2=A0 I took the old tires off =
of=20
  mine, and they all had tubes in them.=C2=A0 I also need to refinish the=
=20
  wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined surface=
s=20
  with too harsh of an abrasive.=C2=A0 I was thinking soda blasting might b=
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Iirc the lat9 also had a rep for being porous, so tubes might have been in
there for that reason. If rebuilding maybe put a sealant over the inner rim.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Iirc the lat9 also had a rep for being porous, so tubes migh=
t have been in there for that reason. If rebuilding maybe put a sealant ove=
r the inner rim.</p>
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Are the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?=C2=A0 I took the old tires
off of mine, and they all had tubes in them.=C2=A0 I also need to refinish
the wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined
surfaces with too harsh of an abrasive.=C2=A0 I was thinking soda blasting
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For what it is worth, if you decide to use a tube, there are rubber =
liners that wrap around the inside of the wheel that protect against =
that coarseness  puncturing the tube.

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class=3D"">For what it is worth, if you decide to use a tube, there are =
rubber liners that wrap around the inside of the wheel that protect =
against that coarseness &nbsp;puncturing the tube.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
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modern tire and the=20
resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are =
coarse and=20
abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would produce a =
modern type=20
tire and have the interior constructed to suit a very small minority of=20=

drivers?&nbsp; Anyway, this is just a =E2=80=9CSafety First=E2=80=9D =
FYI.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not saying=20
people haven=E2=80=99t used tubes and had no issues. I=E2=80=99m just =
restating what I=20
read.</div>
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<div style=3D"font-color: black" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> <a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">Jay Laifman via Tigers</a> </div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b> Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:28 =
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<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">Richard Bruner</a> =
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<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" =
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<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 =
Wheels</div></div></div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as =
I understand it.&nbsp;=20
I think there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties=20
catalog.&nbsp; The wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for =
the tire=20
bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.&nbsp; That =
was one=20
of the selling points of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper =
groove.&nbsp; So=20
it sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Richard =
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  the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?&nbsp; I took the old tires =
off of=20
  mine, and they all had tubes in them.&nbsp; I also need to refinish =
the=20
  wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined =
surfaces=20
  with too harsh of an abrasive.&nbsp; I was thinking soda blasting =
might be the=20
  best choice?&nbsp; Any suggestions?<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font =
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Back in the day when radial tires were fairly new, I ran radials on my =
Tiger.  I also used a tube.  The tube was a heavy-duty (thicker) one =
that was made for radials.  I was told that the heavy-duty tube was =
needed because the sidewalls of a radial will flex and scuff the tube.  =
Don=E2=80=99t know if anyone makes a heavy-duty tube today or not.

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Back in the day when radial tires were fairly new, I =
ran=20
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heavy-duty=20
(thicker) one that was made for radials.&nbsp; I was told that the =
heavy-duty=20
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the=20
tube.&nbsp; Don=E2=80=99t know if anyone makes a heavy-duty tube today =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom Witt via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 05, 2015 1:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>A while back I recall looking into using a tube in a modern tire =
and the=20
resounding answer was NO. Apparently the interior tire surfaces are =
coarse and=20
abraid the tube. Which then leaves the question who would produce a =
modern type=20
tire and have the interior constructed to suit a very small minority of=20
drivers?&nbsp; Anyway, this is just a =E2=80=9CSafety First=E2=80=9D =
FYI.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not saying=20
people haven=E2=80=99t used tubes and had no issues. I=E2=80=99m just =
restating what I=20
read.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Jay Laifman via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Richard Bruner</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tiger's Den</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] LAT 9 Wheels</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>That is the issue with both LAT wheels - as I understand =
it.&nbsp;=20
I think there is a description about it on the Sunbeam Specialties=20
catalog.&nbsp; The wheels did not have the groove on the inner lip for =
the tire=20
bead to seat - or it was not as deep as more modern wheels.&nbsp; That =
was one=20
of the selling points of Rick's LAT wheels - he added a deeper =
groove.&nbsp; So=20
it sounds like people may put tubes in for that reason.</DIV>
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  the LAT 9 wheels supposed to be tubeless?&nbsp; I took the old tires =
off of=20
  mine, and they all had tubes in them.&nbsp; I also need to refinish =
the=20
  wheels, and I was hoping not to damage the original bare machined =
surfaces=20
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might be the=20
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Group, has anyone seen this Tiger, as it has been advertised for some =
time.  If not raced, could be converted to street use, or not?

1966 Sunbeam Tiger MK1A Race Car 302ci V8 extra 260ci V8 extra racing =
wheels

Larry

> On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:09 PM, michael king via Tigers =
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> Iirc the lat9 also had a rep for being porous, so tubes might have =
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class=3D"">Group, has anyone seen this Tiger, as it has been advertised =
for some time. &nbsp;If not raced, could be converted to street use, or =
not?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><h2 =
id=3D"motorSellerProvidedTitle" class=3D"it-sttl">1966 Sunbeam Tiger =
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have been in there for that reason. If rebuilding maybe put a sealant =
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supposed to be tubeless?&nbsp; I took the old tires
off of mine, and they all had tubes in them.&nbsp; I also need to =
refinish
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surfaces with too harsh of an abrasive.&nbsp; I was thinking soda =
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