Subject: Re: [Tigers] Motor OIl

From: Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:45:26 -0800

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Not sure if anyone will reply because this subject comes up on every car =
site all the time..., or everyone will chime in with their opinions.  =
Long term I=E2=80=99d say to switch to a 302 roller cam engine or adapt =
the 260-289 to roller cam.  Short term..., I=E2=80=99d say to =
investigate if the current ZDDP additives are actually beneficial.  =
Unfortunately my investigation has show that there are contrary =
opinions.  Mild cams and weakened valve springs might not be such a bad =
thing under the circumstances.

From: Richard via Tigers=20
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:51 AM
To: Tiger List=20
Subject: [Tigers] Motor OIl

Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these years?  Just read =
several articles on the net stating that modern motor oils that do not =
contain enough ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.  True or =
False?

What oil (weights and or brands) should be used in our older engines, or =
should we use an  additive to increase the ZDDP?

=20

Thanks

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<DIV>Not sure if anyone will reply because this subject comes up on =
every car=20
site all the time..., or everyone will chime in with their =
opinions.&nbsp; Long=20
term I=E2=80=99d say to switch to a 302 roller cam engine or adapt the =
260-289 to roller=20
cam.&nbsp; Short term..., I=E2=80=99d say to investigate if the current =
ZDDP additives=20
are actually beneficial.&nbsp; Unfortunately my investigation has show =
that=20
there are contrary opinions.&nbsp; Mild cams and weakened valve springs =
might=20
not be such a bad thing under the circumstances.</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:51 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Motor OIl</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these =
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Just read several articles on the net stating that modern motor oils =
that do not=20
contain enough ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.&nbsp; True =
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False?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>What oil (weights and or brands) should be used in =
our older=20
engines, or should we use an&nbsp; additive to increase the =
ZDDP?<o:p></o:p></P>
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:06:58 +0000

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I have friends whose cams have been wiped due to this.  I switched to a dro=
p in roller setup and royal purple oil.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 14, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers <[email-masked]<ma=
ilto:[email-masked]>> wrote:

Not sure if anyone will reply because this subject comes up on every car si=
te all the time..., or everyone will chime in with their opinions.  Long te=
rm I=92d say to switch to a 302 roller cam engine or adapt the 260-289 to r=
oller cam.  Short term..., I=92d say to investigate if the current ZDDP add=
itives are actually beneficial.  Unfortunately my investigation has show th=
at there are contrary opinions.  Mild cams and weakened valve springs might=
 not be such a bad thing under the circumstances.

Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these years?  Just read several a=
rticles on the net stating that modern motor oils that do not contain enoug=
h ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.  True or False?
What oil (weights and or brands) should be used in our older engines, or sh=
ould we use an  additive to increase the ZDDP?

Thanks

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<div>I have friends whose cams have been wiped due to this. &nbsp;I switche=
d to a drop in roller setup and royal purple oil. &nbsp;<br>
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<div>Not sure if anyone will reply because this subject comes up on every c=
ar site all the time..., or everyone will chime in with their opinions.&nbs=
p; Long term I=92d say to switch to a 302 roller cam engine or adapt the 26=
0-289 to roller cam.&nbsp; Short term..., I=92d
 say to investigate if the current ZDDP additives are actually beneficial.&=
nbsp; Unfortunately my investigation has show that there are contrary opini=
ons.&nbsp; Mild cams and weakened valve springs might not be such a bad thi=
ng under the circumstances.</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these year=
s?&nbsp; Just read several articles on the net stating that modern motor oi=
ls that do not contain enough ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.&=
nbsp; True or False?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What oil (weights and or brands) should be used in o=
ur older engines, or should we use an&nbsp; additive to increase the ZDDP?<=
o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Chip Broadbooks via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 13:25:22 -0500

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I use Brad Penn racing oil. It's green like like the old Castrol. It's a
bit pricey, but worth it.
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> Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these years?  Just read several
> articles on the net stating that modern motor oils that do not contain
> enough ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.  True or False?
>
> What oil (weights and or brands) should be used in our older engines, or
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I use Brad Penn racing oil. It&#39;s green like like the old=
 Castrol. It&#39;s a bit pricey, but worth it.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 14, 2015 11:01 AM, &quot;Richard via Tige=
rs&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
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Have I been using the wrong motor oil all these years?=C2=A0 Just read seve=
ral articles on the net stating that modern motor oils that do not contain =
enough ZDDP (zinc) and can cause damage to the cam.=C2=A0 True or False?<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What oil (weights and or brands) shou=
ld be used in our older engines, or should we use an=C2=A0 additive to incr=
ease the ZDDP?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
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