Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 350

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 14:54:24 -0400

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Joel
    I would check the wheel lug holes for cracks - if none I would use =
it.
=20
Lug nut torque is 48 ft lbs.  I think most of us have had problems =
because
of over torque on the lug nuts.
=20
The last time I replaced the tires on my Tiger I told the service guy =
the
torque was 48 which surprised him; otherwise I'm sure he would have used =
his
air gun to smash the lug nuts on.
=20
Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Joel =
Martin
via Tigers
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 1:27 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 350

RE:  Spare Tire and wheel

Ok, now my head is starting to hurt.  Great information but having a =
time
deciding on using the wheel I have or getting another.

I have a 1966 Mk 1A Tiger.  The wheel I have has the '63' year code on =
it.
Appears the early Alpine wheels were updated with another road wheel =
with
reinforced holes - Thanks Rande Bellman for this information.  So =
Tiger's
had the reinforced holes with the updated reinforced holes.  Strike 2 on =
my
63 wheel, wrong date and non reinforced holes, while just to be used as =
a
spare, different 15" wheels planned for on the ground, maybe should not
matter.  Anyone like to trade a '63' wheel for a 66 wheel?

Colors:  paint the entire wheel 'semi-gloss black'
Outisde:  Foam white has been discussed for the wheel color but I do not
know for sure if that is correct.

Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137    ICI 3255
The DuPont Historical Color Library for Rootes Motors Inc - Lists Foam =
White
(grey) and a Foam White
Foam White (grey) - IC 562
Foam White            IC 96

Thanks Ron for the above color information  - I have not contacted paint
store to see if they could create a couple of rattle cans if they can =
find
the IC 562 or  Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137    ICI =
3255
paint code.

I determine the 5.90 x 13 and 6.00 x 13 to translate to a 165 x 80 x13 =
tire
size and would like to find a modern radial - no luck yet.

Thanks to Dale A for recommending MileStar Touring SE tires as a pretty =
much
dead ringer for the original tires.

Their MS775 has the white wall but they carry 2 sizes:

P155/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 22.8.
P175/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 24.0

Calculated available space in the trunk for spare wheel and tire is =
about
24", so the P175 would probably rub all around but do not know for sure.
Any thoughts or experience.

The 165/80/13 would probably be the best if you can find them.  Thoughts =
on
all of the above?

Fort Bragg has been firing their big guns since before sun up and the
windows are rattling every minute - think I will go get the trucks oil
changed, have some local brewed beer with a cup of bison chili, while I =
wait
as it has been raining here for about 8 straight days here in NC.

Oh, the hard top is ready today to pick up after PPG gloss black paint
applied.  I had the top soda blasted, then got the rest of the rust
sandblasted in all the corners by yours truly then onto the paint shop.  =
If
I could just get the wheels and door chroming finishing strip back with
seats coming next week, time for a road test.  5-6 years in the making -
starting to get excited.  Now on to the micro brew and chili.

Regards
Joel Martin

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Tiger's 50th birthday today (Derrick Schmidt)
  2. Re: Tiger Spare Tire & Rim (michael king)
  3. Tiger road wheels (snakebit289)

Lived in Santa Monica / Palisades / Malibu for 35 years. Surfed in =
Oxnard /
Ventura a lot and for 2-3 years my girlfriend (now wife) lived in =
Goleta. We
both know that rock very well and can spot that stretch of PCH in
milliseconds!

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>=20

On Sep 30, 2015, 12:39:54 PM, Kirk Smith via Tigers wrote:=20
Took her for a drive on PCH- you may recognize the iconic rock from many =
car
commercials

There is a theory the alpine and tiger wheels are different, there I =
think
was a change in wheel design by rootes where they added the =
strengthening
rib next to each lug hole, this may have been started due to tigers, but
became common to alpine and even other rootes cars.
Thanks Bill,
I thought my Tiger orig spare was in
good shape but your Alpine one
blows it away.
Your pics points out another point,
Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE different
around the wheel nuts.
Gary

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via Tigers =
<[email-masked]>
wrote:

Although this info is not about a Tiger's spare tire and rim, it might =
add a
bit to the discussion.  Especially in relation to the tire types and rim
color.  I am a long time owner of two Tigers (Mark II purchased in 1978 =
and
Mark I in 1979). However, in November of 2011 I purchased a '66 Series V
Alpine (B395008497 OD LRX) from the original owner. The car has only =
66,435
miles on it... original paint, engine, interior, etc. It is a real =
survivor
that has been well cared for over the years.=20

This posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner said =
he
had never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted photos,
below.  I believe the tire is actually the original one... and it sure =
looks
unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) that are still
intact on the tire, etc.=20

One thing I noticed: as mentioned by others, it appears that the wheels =
were
first painted black... then the front side was painted the "Off White/ =
very
light Grey" color... as the "over-spray" is clearly visible on the =
backside
of this spare. Also: this tire has a wheel weight stamped with the =
Dunlop
logo. This may support the idea that it is original?

Please see photos at this link (hope this works):

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/library/1966%20SERIES%20V%20=
ALP
INE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE
<http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/1966%20SERIES%20V%20ALPINE%=
20O
RIGINAL%20SPARE/story>=20

It may not be correct to assume that the same approach was used on the =
MKIA
Tigers.  But, seems likely (although the wheel might be a bit =
different?).

Regards,

Bill Waite
Grand Rapids, MI

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Tiger Spare Tire and Rim ([email-masked])
  2. Fwd: MKI original spare tire (Gary Winblad)
Joel:

I'm at work right now and do not have access to my copy of TBON, but I =
seem
to recall that the MkIIs had stock steel wheels that were painted a =
silver
color on both sides, while the Mk1 and Mk1A wheels were painted black on =
the
inside of the wheel and white on the outside.  If I'm not mistaken, I
believe the correct color ID for the outside wheel color was "Seafoam =
Gray,"
or something like that.  I contacted Tower Paint in Appleton, WI, years =
ago
and gave them the afore-mentioned name of the correct Rootes color and =
they
were able to mix me several cans of it to spray my wheels with. =20

Jay was correct in his description of the spray method.  The wheels were
evidently painted black and then the "Seafoam Gray" was applied to the
outside surface of the wheel with no effort by the factory to mask off =
the
inside surface.  It is proper to have a little overspray come through =
and
land on the black surface of the inside of the wheel, so don't worry =
about
that. =20

Hope this helps,
Andy=20
 =20
---- Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]> wrote:=20
> Tom
> What I find for the MK II, silver is correct but Mk 1A's are =
different.
>=20
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> MK 1A owners or knowledgeable persons?
>=20
> Joel=20
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>      On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:15 AM, Tom Parker
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>   =20
>=20
>  For what it's worth, my Mark 2 rims are grey on both sides, no =
evidence
obvious of any black paint on the rear. As far as I know the wheels are
original, untouched (the condition of the car when I bought it in 1976 =
was,
at best, "rough," I doubt the rims were repainted.
> Tom'67 Mark 2
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> My trunk is finally complete except for the spare tire,wheel and lug =
nuts
that would go with whatever wheel is used.  I still have some questions =
and
here is what I havefound so far. Dunlop 590 x 13" RS5 with a 1" white
sidewall orGoodyear "Made in England 600 x 13" Roadway Speed with a =
1"white
sidewall Wheel - standard steel 4-1/2" x 13" rimPainted black - Is this
gloss black or another black, semi,satin, flat?Then re-sprayed a =
gray-white
on the front - what does thismean?  The entire front of the wheel/rimor =
just
a portion?  Any rattle can paintcan number anyone could provide? I would
like to find a current tire replacement 'size',165x80x13 as an example =
of
what matches the 590x13" or 600x13"designation.  What does 590 or
600x13translate to? Does anyone have a picture of what the wheel and =
tire
shouldbe from the front with the 1" white sidewall and this 'gray-white =
on
the front'is suppose to look like that they would share? I have some LAT
wheels with the markings on the inside of"SRC 1300, 5.5 X 1300, patent
pending, ?celes cali?"    As measured from the inside of the lip, they =
are
5.5" wide. The steel wheel, chrome ring and cap that I have is 4.5"wide =
from
the inside of the lip but has no markings on it that I can find,inside =
or
outside.  Should there be?Please see attached picture and tell me if =
this is
a correct Tiger MK 1A sparewheel or what this might have come off of? I =
have
had this wheel for so many years and no idea where I got it. Thanks =
again
for sharing your knowledge. RegardsJoel Martin
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Joel,
Here (hopefully you can see them) are pictures of my original spare
from my MKI B9470622..  (black, grey-white front, Dunlop RS5).
Note the /64 datecode.  Your picture looks like /63 datecode, not
sure if that could have been left over long enough for your MKIa but
maybe...
You also have the early MKI "crosshatch" trim ring, pretty sure you
should have the later style.
HTH,
Gary

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To build on what was just posted to this group, there was a problem with
metal around the lug stud holes, and a new wheel with reinforced holes =
was
substituted for the Tiger, dated Jan 1965(according to a parts catalogue
change) and the very same wheel  replaced all Series 3, Series IV, and
Series V Alpines when the Alpine portion of the catalogue(3rd revision) =
was
published circa Feb 1965. According to the parts catalogue, it also =
replaces
wheels on Alpine Series II after car serial # B9107290.

The updated road wheel is part number 1214930. Two of the wheels that =
came
with my Tiger are stamped with the updated number. Using the valve stem =
hole
as the 12 OClock position, this stamping is at the 6 OClock postion and =
an
additional number (65 on one wheel of my car and 66 on the other) is at =
the
9 OClock position. If your road wheels were in the same condition as =
mine,
you may have to take a wire brush to the wheels to remove layers of =
paint to
see the number.

Rande Bellman
Tiger IA #48

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D843414718-02102015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would check the wheel =
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for cracks - if none I would use it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
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nut torque is 48 ft lbs.&nbsp; I think most of us have had problems =
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over torque on the lug nuts.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D843414718-02102015>The=20
last time I replaced the tires on my Tiger I told the service guy the =
torque was=20
48 which surprised him; otherwise I'm sure he would have used his air =
gun to=20
smash the lug nuts on.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
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  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Joel Martin =
via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 02, 2015 1:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, =
Vol 7,=20
  Issue 350<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  id=3Dyiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_29747>RE: &nbsp;Spare =
Tire and=20
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  id=3Dyiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_30684>Ok, now my head is =
starting=20
  to hurt. &nbsp;Great information but having a time deciding on using =
the wheel=20
  I have or getting another.</SPAN></DIV>
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  id=3Dyiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_30339>I have a 1966 Mk 1A =
Tiger.=20
  &nbsp;The wheel I have has the '63' year code on it. &nbsp;Appears the =
early=20
  Alpine wheels were updated with another road wheel with reinforced =
holes -=20
  Thanks Rande Bellman for this information. &nbsp;So Tiger's had the =
reinforced=20
  holes with the updated reinforced holes. &nbsp;Strike 2 on my 63 =
wheel, wrong=20
  date and non reinforced holes, while just to be used as a spare, =
different 15"=20
  wheels planned for on the ground, maybe should not matter. =
&nbsp;Anyone like=20
  to trade a '63' wheel for a 66 wheel?</SPAN></DIV>
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  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33319>Colors: &nbsp;paint the entire =
wheel=20
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  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33326>Foam white has been discussed =
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correct.</SPAN></DIV>
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  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31601>The DuPont Historical Color =
Library for=20
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  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33339>Foam White (grey) - IC=20
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White&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
IC=20
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  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34007>Thanks Ron for the above color =
information=20
  &nbsp;- I have not contacted paint store to see if they could create a =
couple=20
  of rattle cans if they can find the IC 562 or &nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); =
FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34892>Rootes code 8 Foam White - =
Berger code=20
  404.1137&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ICI 3255&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34894>paint code.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34010>I determine the 5.90 x 13 and =
6.00 x 13 to=20
  translate to a 165 x 80 x13 tire size and would like to find a modern =
radial -=20
  no luck yet.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34626>Thanks to Dale A for =
recommending MileStar=20
  Touring SE tires as a pretty much dead ringer for the original=20
  tires.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34016>Their MS775 has the white wall =
but they=20
  carry 2 sizes:</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34020>P155/80/R13 with a outside =
diameter of=20
  22.8.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34954>P175/80/R13&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); =
FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34024>with a outside diameter of=20
  24.0</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, =
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); =
FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34623 color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34622>Calculated available space in =
the trunk=20
  for spare wheel and tire is about 24", so the P175 would probably rub =
all=20
  around but do not know for sure. &nbsp;Any thoughts or=20
  experience.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34331 color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34330>The 165/80/13 would probably be =
the best=20
  if you can find them. &nbsp;Thoughts on all of the =
above?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34456 color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34455>Fort Bragg has been firing their =
big guns=20
  since before sun up and the windows are rattling every minute - think =
I will=20
  go get the trucks oil changed, have some local brewed beer with a cup =
of bison=20
  chili, while I wait as it has been raining here for about 8 straight =
days here=20
  in NC.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35183 color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px"=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35185>Oh, the hard top is ready today =
to pick up=20
  after PPG gloss black paint applied. &nbsp;I had the top soda blasted, =
then=20
  got the rest of the rust sandblasted in all the corners by yours truly =
then=20
  onto the paint shop. &nbsp;If I could just get the wheels and door =
chroming=20
  finishing strip back with seats coming next week, time for a road =
test.=20
  &nbsp;5-6 years in the making - starting to get excited. &nbsp;Now on =
to the=20
  micro brew and chili.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
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color=3D#0000ff=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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        id=3Dyiv6987048570yahoo__compose_area>Lived in Santa Monica / =
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        Malibu for 35 years. Surfed in Oxnard / Ventura a lot and for =
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        my girlfriend (now wife) lived in Goleta. We both know that rock =
very=20
        well and can spot that stretch of PCH in milliseconds!<BR =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>There is a theory the alpine and tiger wheels are =
different,=20
  there I think was a change in wheel design by rootes where they added =
the=20
  strengthening rib next to each lug hole, this may have been started =
due to=20
  tigers, but became common to alpine and even other rootes cars.</DIV>
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  <DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks Bill,</DIV>
  <DIV>I thought my Tiger orig spare was in</DIV>
  <DIV>good shape but your Alpine one</DIV>
  <DIV>blows it away.</DIV>
  <DIV>Your pics points out another point,</DIV>
  <DIV>Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE different</DIV>
  <DIV>around the wheel nuts.</DIV>
  <DIV>Gary</DIV>
  <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
  <DIV><BR clear=3Dnone>On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via =
Tigers &lt;<A=20
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wrote:<BR=20
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  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; COLOR: =
#000; FONT-SIZE: 13px">
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Although this info is =
not about=20
    a Tiger's spare tire and rim, it might add a bit to the =
discussion.&nbsp;=20
    Especially in relation to the tire types and rim color.&nbsp; I am a =
long=20
    time owner of two Tigers (Mark II purchased in 1978 and Mark I in =
1979).=20
    However, in November of 2011 I purchased a '66 Series V Alpine =
(B395008497=20
    OD LRX) from the original owner. The car has only 66,435 miles on =
it...=20
    original paint, engine, interior, etc. It is a real survivor that =
has been=20
    well cared for over the years.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: verdana, geneva, lucida,; LETTER-SPACING: 1px; =
COLOR: rgb(104,102,103); FONT-SIZE: 13px">This=20
    posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner said =
he had=20
    never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted photos, =

    below.&nbsp; I believe the tire is actually the original one... and =
it sure=20
    looks unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) that =
are still=20
    intact on the tire, etc.&nbsp;</SPAN><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px">One thing I noticed: =
as=20
    mentioned by others, it appears that the wheels were first painted =
black...=20
    then the front side was painted the "Off White/ very light Grey" =
color... as=20
    the "over-spray" is clearly visible on the backside of this spare. =
Also:=20
    this tire has a wheel weight stamped with the Dunlop logo. This may =
support=20
    the idea that it is original?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px">Please see photos at =
this link=20
    (hope this works):</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/1966%20SERIES%20V%20=
ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE/story"=20
    shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/library/1966=
%20SERIES%20V%20ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE</A></SPAN><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: verdana, geneva, lucida,; LETTER-SPACING: 1px; =
COLOR: rgb(104,102,103); FONT-SIZE: 13px">It=20
    may not be correct to assume that the same approach was used on the =
MKIA=20
    Tigers.&nbsp; But, seems likely (although the wheel might be a bit=20
    different?).</SPAN><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
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    face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"LETTER-SPACING: 1px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><BR=20
    clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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don't=20
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on both=20
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whatever=20
    wheel is used.&nbsp; I still have some questions and here is what I=20
    havefound so far.&nbsp;Dunlop 590 x 13&#8221; RS5&nbsp;with a =
1&#8221; white sidewall=20
    orGoodyear &#8220;Made in England 600 x 13&#8221; Roadway Speed with =
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rimPainted black &#8211; Is this=20
    gloss black or another black, semi,satin, flat?Then re-sprayed a =
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the wheel/rimor=20
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    &#8216;size&#8217;,165x80x13 as an example of what matches the =
590x13&#8221; or=20
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    anyone have a picture of what the wheel and tire shouldbe from the =
front=20
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pending, ?celes=20
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