Subject: [Tigers] No, not a dipstick comment, new subject - Tiger Street Tires

From: Robert Hogan via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:26:13 -0400

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The unavailability of any wide and low profile 13" street tires compels
searching for 15 & 16" tire and wheel combinations.  

The tire calculator at http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do
compares existing to preferred tire sizes.

Was the original 5.90 x 13 Tiger tire size an 80 or greater profile?  The
1972 Workshop manual isn't that specific except to specify a 11.5" rolling
radius.

The calculator shows a 5.90 (150 mm) when input as a 155-80 R13 at 22.76"
overall diameter, 71.51" circumference and doing 886 revs per mile which
suggests using a 225-45 R15 as a very closely comparative replacement.

Does anyone have information on whether 15 inch tires will become as hard to
find as wider than 185 sections for 13" tires are now?

Are 16" or larger diameter wheels and tires a better alternative or widely
in use on others' Tigers?

Rob

B382001560 restoration in process

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class=3DMsoNormal>The unavailability of any wide and low profile =
13&#8221; street tires compels searching for 15 &amp; 16&#8221; tire and =
wheel combinations.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The tire =
calculator at <a =
href=3D"http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do">http://www.disc=
ounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do</a> compares existing to preferred =
tire sizes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Was the original 5.90 x =
13 Tiger tire size an 80 or greater profile?&nbsp; The 1972 Workshop =
manual isn&#8217;t that specific except to specify a 11.5&#8221; rolling =
radius.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The calculator shows a 5.90 =
(150 mm) when input as a 155-80 R13 at 22.76&#8221; overall diameter, =
71.51&#8221; circumference and doing 886 revs per mile which suggests =
using a 225-45 R15 as a very closely comparative =
replacement.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> Does anyone have =
information on whether 15 inch tires will become as hard to find as =
wider than 185 sections for 13&#8221; tires are now?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Are 16&#8221; or larger diameter wheels and tires a =
better alternative or widely in use on others&#8217; =
Tigers?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>B382001560 =
restoration in process<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 21:45:03 -0400

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