Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 350

From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC)

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RE: =C2=A0Spare Tire and wheel
Ok, now my head is starting to hurt. =C2=A0Great information but having a t=
ime deciding on using the wheel I have or getting another.
I have a 1966 Mk 1A Tiger. =C2=A0The wheel I have has the '63' year code on=
 it. =C2=A0Appears the early Alpine wheels were updated with another road w=
heel with reinforced holes - Thanks Rande Bellman for this information. =C2=
=A0So Tiger's had the reinforced holes with the updated reinforced holes. =
=C2=A0Strike 2 on my 63 wheel, wrong date and non reinforced holes, while j=
ust to be used as a spare, different 15" wheels planned for on the ground, =
maybe should not matter. =C2=A0Anyone like to trade a '63' wheel for a 66 w=
heel?
Colors: =C2=A0paint the entire wheel 'semi-gloss black'Outisde: =C2=A0Foam =
white has been discussed for the wheel color but I do not know for=C2=A0sur=
e if that is correct.Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 ICI 3255The DuPont Historical Color Library for Rootes Motors =
Inc - Lists Foam White (grey) and a Foam WhiteFoam White (grey) - IC 562Foa=
m White=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=
C 96
Thanks Ron for the above color information =C2=A0- I have not contacted pai=
nt store to see if they could create a couple of rattle cans if they can fi=
nd the IC 562 or =C2=A0Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ICI 3255=C2=A0paint code.
I determine the 5.90 x 13 and 6.00 x 13 to translate to a 165 x 80 x13 tire=
 size and would like to find a modern radial - no luck yet.
Thanks to Dale A for recommending MileStar Touring SE tires as a pretty muc=
h dead ringer for the original tires.
Their MS775 has the white wall but they carry 2 sizes:
P155/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 22.8.P175/80/R13=C2=A0with a outside=
 diameter of 24.0
Calculated available space in the trunk for spare wheel and tire is about 2=
4", so the P175 would probably rub all around but do not know for sure. =C2=
=A0Any thoughts or experience.
The 165/80/13 would probably be the best if you can find them. =C2=A0Though=
ts on all of the above?
Fort Bragg has been firing their big guns since before sun up and the windo=
ws are rattling every minute - think I will go get the trucks oil changed, =
have some local brewed beer with a cup of bison chili, while I wait as it h=
as been raining here for about 8 straight days here in NC.
Oh, the hard top is ready today to pick up after PPG gloss black paint appl=
ied. =C2=A0I had the top soda blasted, then got the rest of the rust sandbl=
asted in all the corners by yours truly then onto the paint shop. =C2=A0If =
I could just get the wheels and door chroming finishing strip back with sea=
ts coming next week, time for a road test. =C2=A05-6 years in the making - =
starting to get excited. =C2=A0Now on to the micro brew and chili.
RegardsJoel Martin

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=C2=A0 1. Re: Tiger's 50th birthday today (Derrick Schmidt)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Tiger Spare Tire & Rim (michael king)
=C2=A0 3. Tiger road wheels (snakebit289)

| Lived in Santa Monica / Palisades / Malibu for 35 years. Surfed in Oxnard=
 / Ventura a lot and for 2-3 years my girlfriend (now wife) lived in Goleta=
. We both know that rock very well and can spot that stretch of PCH in mill=
iseconds!

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On Sep 30, 2015, 12:39:54 PM, Kirk Smith via Tigers wrote:Took her for a dr=
ive on PCH- you may recognize the iconic rock from many car commercials
 |

There is a theory the alpine and tiger wheels are different, there I think =
was a change in wheel design by rootes where they added the strengthening r=
ib next to each lug hole, this may have been started due to tigers, but bec=
ame common to alpine and even other rootes cars.Thanks Bill,I thought my Ti=
ger orig spare was ingood shape but your Alpine oneblows it away.Your pics =
points out another point,Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE differentaround the wh=
eel nuts.Gary

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via Tigers <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

Although this info is not about a Tiger's spare tire and rim, it might add =
a bit to the discussion.=C2=A0 Especially in relation to the tire types and=
 rim color.=C2=A0 I am a long time owner of two Tigers (Mark II purchased i=
n 1978 and Mark I in 1979). However, in November of 2011 I purchased a '66 =
Series V Alpine (B395008497 OD LRX) from the original owner. The car has on=
ly 66,435 miles on it... original paint, engine, interior, etc. It is a rea=
l survivor that has been well cared for over the years.=C2=A0
This posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner said he=
 had never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted photos, b=
elow.=C2=A0 I believe the tire is actually the original one... and it sure =
looks unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) that are stil=
l intact on the tire, etc.=C2=A0

One thing I noticed: as mentioned by others, it appears that the wheels wer=
e first painted black... then the front side was painted the "Off White/ ve=
ry light Grey" color... as the "over-spray" is clearly visible on the backs=
ide of this spare. Also: this tire has a wheel weight stamped with the Dunl=
op logo. This may support the idea that it is original?
Please see photos at this link (hope this works):
http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/library/1966%20SERIES%20V%20AL=
PINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE

It may not be correct to assume that the same approach was used on the MKIA=
 Tigers.=C2=A0 But, seems likely (although the wheel might be a bit differe=
nt?).

Regards,
Bill WaiteGrand Rapids, MI
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Tiger Spare Tire and Rim ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 2. Fwd: MKI original spare tire (Gary Winblad)
Joel:

I'm at work right now and do not have access to my copy of TBON, but I seem=
 to recall that the MkIIs had stock steel wheels that were painted a silver=
 color on both sides, while the Mk1 and Mk1A wheels were painted black on t=
he inside of the wheel and white on the outside.=C2=A0 If I'm not mistaken,=
 I believe the correct color ID for the outside wheel color was "Seafoam Gr=
ay," or something like that.=C2=A0 I contacted Tower Paint in Appleton, WI,=
 years ago and gave them the afore-mentioned name of the correct Rootes col=
or and they were able to mix me several cans of it to spray my wheels with.=
=C2=A0=20

Jay was correct in his description of the spray method.=C2=A0 The wheels we=
re evidently painted black and then the "Seafoam Gray" was applied to the o=
utside surface of the wheel with no effort by the factory to mask off the i=
nside surface.=C2=A0 It is proper to have a little overspray come through a=
nd land on the black surface of the inside of the wheel, so don't worry abo=
ut that.=C2=A0=20

Hope this helps,
Andy=20
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> Tom
> What I find for the MK II, silver is correct but Mk 1A's are different.
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:15 AM, Tom Parker=
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>=C2=A0 For what it's worth, my Mark 2 rims are grey on both sides, no evid=
ence obvious of any black paint on the rear. As far as I know the wheels ar=
e original, untouched (the condition of the car when I bought it in 1976 wa=
s, at best, "rough," I doubt the rims were repainted.
> Tom'67 Mark 2
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
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> My trunk is finally complete except for the spare tire,wheel and lug nuts=
 that would go with whatever wheel is used.=C2=A0 I still have some questio=
ns and here is what I havefound so far.=C2=A0Dunlop 590 x 13=E2=80=9D RS5=
=C2=A0with a 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall orGoodyear =E2=80=9CMade in England =
600 x 13=E2=80=9D Roadway Speed with a 1=E2=80=9Dwhite sidewall=C2=A0Wheel =
=E2=80=93 standard steel 4-1/2=E2=80=9D x 13=E2=80=9D rimPainted black =E2=
=80=93 Is this gloss black or another black, semi,satin, flat?Then re-spray=
ed a gray-white on the front =E2=80=93 what does thismean?=C2=A0 The entire=
 front of the wheel/rimor just a portion?=C2=A0 Any rattle can paintcan num=
ber anyone could provide?=C2=A0I would like to find a current tire replacem=
ent =E2=80=98size=E2=80=99,165x80x13 as an example of what matches the 590x=
13=E2=80=9D or 600x13=E2=80=9Ddesignation.=C2=A0 What does 590 or 600x13tra=
nslate to?=C2=A0Does anyone have a picture of what the wheel and tire shoul=
dbe from the front with the 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall and this =E2=80=98gra=
y-white on the front=E2=80=99is suppose to look like that they would share?=
=C2=A0I have some LAT wheels with the markings on the inside of=E2=80=9CSRC=
 1300, 5.5 X 1300, patent pending, ?celes cali?=E2=80=9D=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
As measured from the inside of the lip, they are 5.5=E2=80=9D wide.=C2=A0Th=
e steel wheel, chrome ring and cap that I have is 4.5=E2=80=9Dwide from the=
 inside of the lip but has no markings on it that I can find,inside or outs=
ide.=C2=A0 Should there be?Please see attached picture and tell me if this =
is a correct Tiger MK 1A sparewheel or what this might have come off of?=C2=
=A0I have had this wheel for so many years and no idea where I got it.=C2=
=A0Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.=C2=A0RegardsJoel Martin
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Joel,
Here (hopefully you can see them) are pictures of my original spare
from my MKI B9470622..=C2=A0 (black, grey-white front, Dunlop RS5).
Note the /64 datecode.=C2=A0 Your picture looks like /63 datecode, not
sure if that could have been left over long enough for your MKIa but
maybe...
You also have the early MKI "crosshatch" trim ring, pretty sure you
should have the later style.
HTH,
Gary

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To build on what was just posted to this group, there was a problem with me=
tal around the lug stud holes, and a new wheel with reinforced holes was su=
bstituted for the Tiger, dated Jan 1965(according to a parts catalogue chan=
ge) and the very same wheel=C2=A0 replaced all Series 3, Series IV, and Ser=
ies V Alpines when the Alpine portion of the catalogue(3rd revision) was pu=
blished circa Feb 1965. According to the parts catalogue, it also replaces =
wheels on Alpine Series II after car serial # B9107290.
The updated road wheel is part number 1214930. Two of the wheels that came =
with my Tiger are stamped with the updated number. Using the valve stem hol=
e as the 12 OClock position, this stamping is at the 6 OClock postion and a=
n additional number (65 on one wheel of my car and 66 on the other) is at t=
he 9 OClock position. If your road wheels were in the same condition as min=
e, you may have to take a wire brush to the wheels to remove layers of pain=
t to see the number.
Rande BellmanTiger IA #48

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=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_29747">RE: &nbsp;Spare Tire and=
 wheel</span></div><div id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_29615=
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=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_30684">Ok, now my head is start=
ing to hurt. &nbsp;Great information but having a time deciding on using th=
e wheel I have or getting another.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_=
3_16_0_1_1443797860800_29615" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ga=
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00_29615" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: garamond, 'new york', =
times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_14437=
97860800_30339">I have a 1966 Mk 1A Tiger. &nbsp;The wheel I have has the '=
63' year code on it. &nbsp;Appears the early Alpine wheels were updated wit=
h another road wheel with reinforced holes - Thanks Rande Bellman for this =
information. &nbsp;So Tiger's had the reinforced holes with the updated rei=
nforced holes. &nbsp;Strike 2 on my 63 wheel, wrong date and non reinforced=
 holes, while just to be used as a spare, different 15" wheels planned for =
on the ground, maybe should not matter. &nbsp;Anyone like to trade a '63' w=
heel for a 66 wheel?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_=
16_0_1_1443797860800_29615" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: gara=
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mes, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33319"=
>Colors: &nbsp;paint the entire wheel 'semi-gloss black'</span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_29615" style=3D"co=
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ze: 16px;"><span>Outisde: &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255)=
; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_3=
3326" class=3D"">Foam white has been discussed for the wheel color but I do=
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ootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ICI 3255</=
span></div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31593" class=3D"" st=
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60800_31601" style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-siz=
e: 10pt;" class=3D"">The DuPont Historical Color Library for Rootes Motors =
Inc - Lists Foam White (grey) and a Foam White</span></div></div><div id=3D=
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hite (grey) - IC 562</span></div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144379786080=
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an style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34007">Thanks Ron for the above=
 color information &nbsp;- I have not contacted paint store to see if they =
could create a couple of rattle cans if they can find the IC 562 or &nbsp;<=
/span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Arial, sans-serif;=
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ize: 10pt;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34010">I determine =
the 5.90 x 13 and 6.00 x 13 to translate to a 165 x 80 x13 tire size and wo=
uld like to find a modern radial - no luck yet.</span></div><div class=3D""=
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 sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br></span></div><di=
v class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, A=
rial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"" id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34626">Thanks to Dale A for recommending MileStar =
Touring SE tires as a pretty much dead ringer for the original tires.</span=
></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', He=
lvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style=
=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D=
""><br></span></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598"=
 dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', '=
Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"=
><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10p=
t;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34016">Their MS775 has the =
white wall but they carry 2 sizes:</span></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-=
family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div class=3D"" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida=
 Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
43797860800_34020">P155/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 22.8.</span></div=
><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helveti=
ca, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34954">P175/80/R13&nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13.33=
33px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34024" class=3D"">with a outside di=
ameter of 24.0</span></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800=
_31598" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Helvetica N=
eue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size:=
 13px;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Arial, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 13.3333px;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div class=3D"" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=
=3D"Arial, sans-serif" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34623"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34622">Calculat=
ed available space in the trunk for spare wheel and tire is about 24", so t=
he P175 would probably rub all around but do not know for sure. &nbsp;Any t=
houghts or experience.</span></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, s=
ans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span></font></div><d=
iv class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font col=
or=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-serif" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_=
34331"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14437978608=
00_34330">The 165/80/13 would probably be the best if you can find them. &n=
bsp;Thoughts on all of the above?</span></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=
=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span></f=
ont></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"lt=
r"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-serif" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
43797860800_34456"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1443797860800_34455">Fort Bragg has been firing their big guns since befor=
e sun up and the windows are rattling every minute - think I will go get th=
e trucks oil changed, have some local brewed beer with a cup of bison chili=
, while I wait as it has been raining here for about 8 straight days here i=
n NC.</span></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_3=
1598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span></font></div><div class=3D"" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" f=
ace=3D"Arial, sans-serif" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35183"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35185">Oh, th=
e hard top is ready today to pick up after PPG gloss black paint applied. &=
nbsp;I had the top soda blasted, then got the rest of the rust sandblasted =
in all the corners by yours truly then onto the paint shop. &nbsp;If I coul=
d just get the wheels and door chroming finishing strip back with seats com=
ing next week, time for a road test. &nbsp;5-6 years in the making - starti=
ng to get excited. &nbsp;Now on to the micro brew and chili.</span></font><=
/div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><f=
ont color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.3333px;"><br></span></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1443=
797860800_31598" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-se=
rif"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px;">Regards</span></font></div><div =
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=3D"#0000ff" face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px=
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1443797860800_29681"> <font id=3D"yiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_2=
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ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  1. Re: Tiger's 50th birthday today (=
Derrick Schmidt)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  2. Re: Tiger Spare Tire &amp; Ri=
m (michael king)<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;  3. Tiger road wheels (snakebit28=
9)<br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv6987048570"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cel=
lpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" vali=
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ived in Santa Monica / Palisades / Malibu for 35 years. Surfed in Oxnard / =
Ventura a lot and for 2-3 years my girlfriend (now wife) lived in Goleta. W=
e both know that rock very well and can spot that stretch of PCH in millise=
conds!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://yho.com/footer0">S=
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inal_message"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Sep 30, 2015, 12:39:54 PM, Ki=
rk Smith via Tigers wrote:<div class=3D"yiv6987048570WordSection1"><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv6987048570MsoNormal">Took her for a drive on PCH- you may recogniz=
e the iconic rock from many car commercials</div></div><div></div></blockqu=
ote></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

</div><div id=3D"yiv6987048570"><div dir=3D"ltr">There is a theory the alpi=
ne and tiger wheels are different, there I think was a change in wheel desi=
gn by rootes where they added the strengthening rib next to each lug hole, =
this may have been started due to tigers, but became common to alpine and e=
ven other rootes cars.</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
;"><div><div>Thanks Bill,</div><div>I thought my Tiger orig spare was in</d=
iv><div>good shape but your Alpine one</div><div>blows it away.</div><div>Y=
our pics points out another point,</div><div>Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE di=
fferent</div><div>around the wheel nuts.</div><div>Gary</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e">On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,=
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida=
, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.=
3333px;letter-spacing:1px;">Although this info is not about a Tiger's spare=
 tire and rim, it might add a bit to the discussion.&nbsp; Especially in re=
lation to the tire types and rim color.&nbsp; I am a long time owner of two=
 Tigers (Mark II purchased in 1978 and Mark I in 1979). However, in Novembe=
r of 2011 I purchased a '66 Series V Alpine (B395008497 OD LRX) from the or=
iginal owner. The car has only 66,435 miles on it... original paint, engine=
, interior, etc. It is a real survivor that has been well cared for over th=
e years.&nbsp;</span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" =
face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-seri=
f"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;=
letter-spacing:1px;color:rgb(104,102,103);font-family:verdana, geneva, luci=
da,;">This posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner s=
aid he had never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted pho=
tos, below.&nbsp; I believe the tire is actually the original one... and it=
 sure looks unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) that ar=
e still intact on the tire, etc.&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida=
 grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;l=
etter-spacing:1px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spaci=
ng:1px;">One thing I noticed: as mentioned by others, it appears that the w=
heels were first painted black... then the front side was painted the "Off =
White/ very light Grey" color... as the "over-spray" is clearly visible on =
the backside of this spare. Also: this tire has a wheel weight stamped with=
 the Dunlop logo. This may support the idea that it is original?</span></fo=
nt></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, =
lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, luc=
ida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333p=
x;letter-spacing:1px;">Please see photos at this link (hope this works):</s=
pan></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, =
geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D=
"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></font>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, luc=
ida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span><span style=3D"font=
-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/1966%20=
SERIES%20V%20ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE/story">http://s1299.photobucket.com/=
user/fordlandia/library/1966%20SERIES%20V%20ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE</a></=
span><br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D=
"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica,=
 sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=
=3D"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;color:rgb(104,102,103);font-fami=
ly:verdana, geneva, lucida,;">It may not be correct to assume that the same=
 approach was used on the MKIA Tigers.&nbsp; But, seems likely (although th=
e wheel might be a bit different?).</span><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida gr=
ande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;lett=
er-spacing:1px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><f=
ont color=3D"#686667" face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial=
, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:=
1px;">Regards,</span></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#686667" =
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dana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:13.3333px;letter-spacing:1px;">Bill Waite</span></font></d=
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3333px;letter-spacing:1px;">Grand Rapids, MI</span></font></div><div dir=3D=
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ss to my copy of TBON, but I seem to recall that the MkIIs had stock steel =
wheels that were painted a silver color on both sides, while the Mk1 and Mk=
1A wheels were painted black on the inside of the wheel and white on the ou=
tside.&nbsp; If I'm not mistaken, I believe the correct color ID for the ou=
tside wheel color was "Seafoam Gray," or something like that.&nbsp; I conta=
cted Tower Paint in Appleton, WI, years ago and gave them the afore-mention=
ed name of the correct Rootes color and they were able to mix me several ca=
ns of it to spray my wheels with.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">Jay was correct in his description of the spray method.&nbsp; The wheels=
 were evidently painted black and then the "Seafoam Gray" was applied to th=
e outside surface of the wheel with no effort by the factory to mask off th=
e inside surface.&nbsp; It is proper to have a little overspray come throug=
h and land on the black surface of the inside of the wheel, so don't worry =
about that.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hope this helps,<br=
 clear=3D"none">Andy <br clear=3D"none">&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">---- Joel=
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are different.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"=
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<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; On Wedn=
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">&gt;&nbsp; For what it's worth, my Mark 2 rims are grey on both sides, no=
 evidence obvious of any black paint on the rear. As far as I know the whee=
ls are original, untouched (the condition of the car when I bought it in 19=
76 was, at best, "rough," I doubt the rims were repainted.<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; Tom'67 Mark 2<br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:50 AM=
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clear=3D"none">&gt; My trunk is finally complete except for the spare tire,=
wheel and lug nuts that would go with whatever wheel is used.&nbsp; I still=
 have some questions and here is what I havefound so far.&nbsp;Dunlop 590 x=
 13=E2=80=9D RS5&nbsp;with a 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall orGoodyear =E2=80=9C=
Made in England 600 x 13=E2=80=9D Roadway Speed with a 1=E2=80=9Dwhite side=
wall&nbsp;Wheel =E2=80=93 standard steel 4-1/2=E2=80=9D x 13=E2=80=9D rimPa=
inted black =E2=80=93 Is this gloss black or another black, semi,satin, fla=
t?Then re-sprayed a gray-white on the front =E2=80=93 what does thismean?&n=
bsp; The entire front of the wheel/rimor just a portion?&nbsp; Any rattle c=
an paintcan number anyone could provide?&nbsp;I would like to find a curren=
t tire replacement =E2=80=98size=E2=80=99,165x80x13 as an example of what m=
atches the 590x13=E2=80=9D or 600x13=E2=80=9Ddesignation.&nbsp; What does 5=
90 or 600x13translate to?&nbsp;Does anyone have a picture of what the wheel=
 and tire shouldbe from the front with the 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall and th=
is =E2=80=98gray-white on the front=E2=80=99is suppose to look like that th=
ey would share?&nbsp;I have some LAT wheels with the markings on the inside=
 of=E2=80=9CSRC 1300, 5.5 X 1300, patent pending, ?celes cali?=E2=80=9D&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; As measured from the inside of the lip, they are 5.5=E2=80=
=9D wide.&nbsp;The steel wheel, chrome ring and cap that I have is 4.5=E2=
=80=9Dwide from the inside of the lip but has no markings on it that I can =
find,inside or outside.&nbsp; Should there be?Please see attached picture a=
nd tell me if this is a correct Tiger MK 1A sparewheel or what this might h=
ave come off of?&nbsp;I have had this wheel for so many years and no idea w=
here I got it.&nbsp;Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.&nbsp;RegardsJo=
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for your MKIa but<br clear=3D"none">maybe...<br clear=3D"none">You also hav=
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h reinforced holes was substituted for the Tiger, dated Jan 1965(according =
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ies 3, Series IV, and Series V Alpines when the Alpine portion of the catal=
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o of the wheels that came with my Tiger are stamped with the updated number=
. Using the valve stem hole as the 12 OClock position, this stamping is at =
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Joel

My 175x70x13 spare fits fine length and width wise, but does rub against =
the bottom of the wood floor.

Universal has a 165x80x13 whitewall...but only in wide. Might be a bit =
much.

Jim

From: Joel Martin via Tigers=20
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 1:26 PM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 350

RE:  Spare Tire and wheel

Ok, now my head is starting to hurt.  Great information but having a =
time deciding on using the wheel I have or getting another.

I have a 1966 Mk 1A Tiger.  The wheel I have has the '63' year code on =
it.  Appears the early Alpine wheels were updated with another road =
wheel with reinforced holes - Thanks Rande Bellman for this information. =
 So Tiger's had the reinforced holes with the updated reinforced holes.  =
Strike 2 on my 63 wheel, wrong date and non reinforced holes, while just =
to be used as a spare, different 15" wheels planned for on the ground, =
maybe should not matter.  Anyone like to trade a '63' wheel for a 66 =
wheel?

Colors:  paint the entire wheel 'semi-gloss black'
Outisde:  Foam white has been discussed for the wheel color but I do not =
know for sure if that is correct.
Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137    ICI 3255
The DuPont Historical Color Library for Rootes Motors Inc - Lists Foam =
White (grey) and a Foam White
Foam White (grey) - IC 562
Foam White            IC 96

Thanks Ron for the above color information  - I have not contacted paint =
store to see if they could create a couple of rattle cans if they can =
find the IC 562 or  Rootes code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137    =
ICI 3255 paint code.

I determine the 5.90 x 13 and 6.00 x 13 to translate to a 165 x 80 x13 =
tire size and would like to find a modern radial - no luck yet.

Thanks to Dale A for recommending MileStar Touring SE tires as a pretty =
much dead ringer for the original tires.

P155/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 22.8.
P175/80/R13 with a outside diameter of 24.0

Calculated available space in the trunk for spare wheel and tire is =
about 24", so the P175 would probably rub all around but do not know for =
sure.  Any thoughts or experience.

The 165/80/13 would probably be the best if you can find them.  Thoughts =
on all of the above?

Fort Bragg has been firing their big guns since before sun up and the =
windows are rattling every minute - think I will go get the trucks oil =
changed, have some local brewed beer with a cup of bison chili, while I =
wait as it has been raining here for about 8 straight days here in NC.

Oh, the hard top is ready today to pick up after PPG gloss black paint =
applied.  I had the top soda blasted, then got the rest of the rust =
sandblasted in all the corners by yours truly then onto the paint shop.  =
If I could just get the wheels and door chroming finishing strip back =
with seats coming next week, time for a road test.  5-6 years in the =
making - starting to get excited.  Now on to the micro brew and chili.

Regards
Joel Martin

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Tiger's 50th birthday today (Derrick Schmidt)
  2. Re: Tiger Spare Tire & Rim (michael king)
  3. Tiger road wheels (snakebit289)

      Lived in Santa Monica / Palisades / Malibu for 35 years. Surfed in =
Oxnard / Ventura a lot and for 2-3 years my girlfriend (now wife) lived =
in Goleta. We both know that rock very well and can spot that stretch of =
PCH in milliseconds!

        On Sep 30, 2015, 12:39:54 PM, Kirk Smith via Tigers wrote:=20
        Took her for a drive on PCH- you may recognize the iconic rock =
from many car commercials=20

There is a theory the alpine and tiger wheels are different, there I =
think was a change in wheel design by rootes where they added the =
strengthening rib next to each lug hole, this may have been started due =
to tigers, but became common to alpine and even other rootes cars.
Thanks Bill,
I thought my Tiger orig spare was in
good shape but your Alpine one
blows it away.
Your pics points out another point,
Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE different
around the wheel nuts.
Gary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  Although this info is not about a Tiger's spare tire and rim, it might =
add a bit to the discussion.  Especially in relation to the tire types =
and rim color.  I am a long time owner of two Tigers (Mark II purchased =
in 1978 and Mark I in 1979). However, in November of 2011 I purchased a =
'66 Series V Alpine (B395008497 OD LRX) from the original owner. The car =
has only 66,435 miles on it... original paint, engine, interior, etc. It =
is a real survivor that has been well cared for over the years.=20

  This posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner =
said he had never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted =
photos, below.  I believe the tire is actually the original one... and =
it sure looks unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) =
that are still intact on the tire, etc.=20

  One thing I noticed: as mentioned by others, it appears that the =
wheels were first painted black... then the front side was painted the =
"Off White/ very light Grey" color... as the "over-spray" is clearly =
visible on the backside of this spare. Also: this tire has a wheel =
weight stamped with the Dunlop logo. This may support the idea that it =
is original?

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http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/library/1966%20SERIES%20V%20=
ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE

  It may not be correct to assume that the same approach was used on the =
MKIA Tigers.  But, seems likely (although the wheel might be a bit =
different?).

  Regards,

  Bill Waite
  Grand Rapids, MI

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    2. Fwd: MKI original spare tire (Gary Winblad)
  Joel:

  I'm at work right now and do not have access to my copy of TBON, but I =
seem to recall that the MkIIs had stock steel wheels that were painted a =
silver color on both sides, while the Mk1 and Mk1A wheels were painted =
black on the inside of the wheel and white on the outside.  If I'm not =
mistaken, I believe the correct color ID for the outside wheel color was =
"Seafoam Gray," or something like that.  I contacted Tower Paint in =
Appleton, WI, years ago and gave them the afore-mentioned name of the =
correct Rootes color and they were able to mix me several cans of it to =
spray my wheels with. =20

  Jay was correct in his description of the spray method.  The wheels =
were evidently painted black and then the "Seafoam Gray" was applied to =
the outside surface of the wheel with no effort by the factory to mask =
off the inside surface.  It is proper to have a little overspray come =
through and land on the black surface of the inside of the wheel, so =
don't worry about that. =20

  Hope this helps,
  Andy=20
   =20
  > Tom
  > What I find for the MK II, silver is correct but Mk 1A's are =
different.
  >      On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:15 AM, Tom Parker =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
  >   =20
  >=20
  >  For what it's worth, my Mark 2 rims are grey on both sides, no =
evidence obvious of any black paint on the rear. As far as I know the =
wheels are original, untouched (the condition of the car when I bought =
it in 1976 was, at best, "rough," I doubt the rims were repainted.
  > Tom'67 Mark 2
  > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
  >=20
  > My trunk is finally complete except for the spare tire,wheel and lug =
nuts that would go with whatever wheel is used.  I still have some =
questions and here is what I havefound so far. Dunlop 590 x 13=E2=80=9D =
RS5 with a 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall orGoodyear =E2=80=9CMade in England =
600 x 13=E2=80=9D Roadway Speed with a 1=E2=80=9Dwhite sidewall Wheel =
=E2=80=93 standard steel 4-1/2=E2=80=9D x 13=E2=80=9D rimPainted black =
=E2=80=93 Is this gloss black or another black, semi,satin, flat?Then =
re-sprayed a gray-white on the front =E2=80=93 what does thismean?  The =
entire front of the wheel/rimor just a portion?  Any rattle can paintcan =
number anyone could provide? I would like to find a current tire =
replacement =E2=80=98size=E2=80=99,165x80x13 as an example of what =
matches the 590x13=E2=80=9D or 600x13=E2=80=9Ddesignation.  What does =
590 or 600x13translate to? Does anyone have a picture of what the wheel =
and tire shouldbe from the front with the 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall and =
this =E2=80=98gray-white on the front=E2=80=99is suppose to look like =
that they would share? I have some LAT wheels with the markings on the =
inside of=E2=80=9CSRC 1300, 5.5 X 1300, patent pending, ?celes =
cali?=E2=80=9D    As measured from the inside of the lip, they are =
5.5=E2=80=9D wide. The steel wheel, chrome ring and cap that I have is =
4.5=E2=80=9Dwide from the inside of the lip but has no markings on it =
that I can find,inside or outside.  Should there be?Please see attached =
picture and tell me if this is a correct Tiger MK 1A sparewheel or what =
this might have come off of? I have had this wheel for so many years and =
no idea where I got it. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. =
RegardsJoel Martin
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  Joel,
  Here (hopefully you can see them) are pictures of my original spare
  from my MKI B9470622..  (black, grey-white front, Dunlop RS5).
  Note the /64 datecode.  Your picture looks like /63 datecode, not
  sure if that could have been left over long enough for your MKIa but
  maybe...
  You also have the early MKI "crosshatch" trim ring, pretty sure you
  should have the later style.
  HTH,
  Gary

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To build on what was just posted to this group, there was a problem with =
metal around the lug stud holes, and a new wheel with reinforced holes =
was substituted for the Tiger, dated Jan 1965(according to a parts =
catalogue change) and the very same wheel  replaced all Series 3, Series =
IV, and Series V Alpines when the Alpine portion of the catalogue(3rd =
revision) was published circa Feb 1965. According to the parts =
catalogue, it also replaces wheels on Alpine Series II after car serial =
# B9107290.

The updated road wheel is part number 1214930. Two of the wheels that =
came with my Tiger are stamped with the updated number. Using the valve =
stem hole as the 12 OClock position, this stamping is at the 6 OClock =
postion and an additional number (65 on one wheel of my car and 66 on =
the other) is at the 9 OClock position. If your road wheels were in the =
same condition as mine, you may have to take a wire brush to the wheels =
to remove layers of paint to see the number.

Rande Bellman
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<DIV>My 175x70x13 spare fits fine length and width wise, but does rub =
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<DIV>Universal has a 165x80x13 whitewall...but only in wide. Might be a =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 02, 2015 1:26 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue=20
350</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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id=3Dyiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_30684>Ok, now my head is =
starting to=20
hurt.&nbsp; Great information but having a time deciding on using the =
wheel I=20
have or getting another.</SPAN></DIV>
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serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyiv6987048570yui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_30339>I =
have a 1966 Mk=20
1A Tiger.&nbsp; The wheel I have has the '63' year code on it.&nbsp; =
Appears the=20
early Alpine wheels were updated with another road wheel with reinforced =
holes -=20
Thanks Rande Bellman for this information.&nbsp; So Tiger's had the =
reinforced=20
holes with the updated reinforced holes.&nbsp; Strike 2 on my 63 wheel, =
wrong=20
date and non reinforced holes, while just to be used as a spare, =
different 15"=20
wheels planned for on the ground, maybe should not matter.&nbsp; Anyone =
like to=20
trade a '63' wheel for a 66 wheel?</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, 'new york', times, =
serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33319>Colors:&nbsp; =
paint the entire=20
wheel 'semi-gloss black'</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, 'new york', times, =
serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN>Outisde:&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN =
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33326=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255)">Foam =
white has=20
been discussed for the wheel color but I do not know for sure if that is =

correct.</SPAN></DIV>
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face=3D"Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33329 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
13px"></SPAN></FONT>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31596=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31595><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31603=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Rootes code=20
8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ICI=20
3255</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31593=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
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id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31601=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">The DuPont=20
Historical Color Library for Rootes Motors Inc - Lists Foam White (grey) =
and a=20
Foam White</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">
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id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33339=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Foam White=20
(grey) - IC 562</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_33343=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Foam=20
White&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
IC=20
96</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34007=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Thanks Ron=20
for the above color information&nbsp; - I have not contacted paint store =
to see=20
if they could create a couple of rattle cans if they can find the IC 562 =

or&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34892=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,255)">Rootes=20
code 8 Foam White - Berger code 404.1137&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ICI 3255 =
</SPAN><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34894=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">paint=20
code.</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34010=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: blue">I =
determine=20
the 5.90 x 13 and 6.00 x 13 to translate to a 165 x 80 x13 tire size and =
would=20
like to find a modern radial - no luck yet.</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34626=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Thanks to=20
Dale A for recommending MileStar Touring SE tires as a pretty much dead =
ringer=20
for the original tires.</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34016=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">Their MS775=20
has the white wall but they carry 2 sizes:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34020=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">P155/80/R13=20
with a outside diameter of 22.8.</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue">P175/80/R13=20
</SPAN><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34024=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,255)">with=20
a outside diameter of 24.0</SPAN></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', =
helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,255)"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598 dir=3Dltr><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34623 color=3D#0000ff face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34622 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
13px">Calculated available=20
space in the trunk for spare wheel and tire is about 24", so the P175 =
would=20
probably rub all around but do not know for sure.&nbsp; Any thoughts or=20
experience.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598 dir=3Dltr><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34331 color=3D#0000ff face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34330 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">The =
165/80/13 would=20
probably be the best if you can find them.&nbsp; Thoughts on all of the=20
above?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
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13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598 dir=3Dltr><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34456 color=3D#0000ff face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_34455 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">Fort =
Bragg has been=20
firing their big guns since before sun up and the windows are rattling =
every=20
minute - think I will go get the trucks oil changed, have some local =
brewed beer=20
with a cup of bison chili, while I wait as it has been raining here for =
about 8=20
straight days here in NC.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
13px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_31598 dir=3Dltr><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35183 color=3D#0000ff face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1443797860800_35185 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">Oh, the =
hard top is=20
ready today to pick up after PPG gloss black paint applied.&nbsp; I had =
the top=20
soda blasted, then got the rest of the rust sandblasted in all the =
corners by=20
yours truly then onto the paint shop.&nbsp; If I could just get the =
wheels and=20
door chroming finishing strip back with seats coming next week, time for =
a road=20
test.&nbsp; 5-6 years in the making - starting to get excited.&nbsp; Now =
on to=20
the micro brew and chili.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px">Joel=20
Martin</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV id=3Dyiv6987048570yahoo__compose_area=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: helveticaneue-regular, helvetica; DISPLAY: =
block; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Lived=20
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Oxnard /=20
      Ventura a lot and for 2-3 years my girlfriend (now wife) lived in =
Goleta.=20
      We both know that rock very well and can spot that stretch of PCH =
in=20
      milliseconds!<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone><A =

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        Sep 30, 2015, 12:39:54 PM, Kirk Smith via Tigers wrote:=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>There is a theory the alpine and tiger wheels are =
different, there=20
I think was a change in wheel design by rootes where they added the=20
strengthening rib next to each lug hole, this may have been started due =
to=20
tigers, but became common to alpine and even other rootes cars.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks Bill,</DIV>
<DIV>I thought my Tiger orig spare was in</DIV>
<DIV>good shape but your Alpine one</DIV>
<DIV>blows it away.</DIV>
<DIV>Your pics points out another point,</DIV>
<DIV>Tiger and Alpine wheels ARE different</DIV>
<DIV>around the wheel nuts.</DIV>
<DIV>Gary</DIV>
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<DIV><BR clear=3Dnone>On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Bill Waite via =
Tigers &lt;<A=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: helveticaneue, helvetica neue, =
helvetica, arial, lucida grande, sans-serif; COLOR: #000; =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px">Although this info is =
not about a=20
  Tiger's spare tire and rim, it might add a bit to the =
discussion.&nbsp;=20
  Especially in relation to the tire types and rim color.&nbsp; I am a =
long time=20
  owner of two Tigers (Mark II purchased in 1978 and Mark I in 1979). =
However,=20
  in November of 2011 I purchased a '66 Series V Alpine (B395008497 OD =
LRX) from=20
  the original owner. The car has only 66,435 miles on it... original =
paint,=20
  engine, interior, etc. It is a real survivor that has been well cared =
for over=20
  the years. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px"><BR=20
  clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, geneva, lucida,; =
COLOR: rgb(104,102,103); LETTER-SPACING: 1px">This=20
  posting is regarding that car's spare tire. The original owner said he =
had=20
  never used it... and that it was the original. I have posted photos,=20
  below.&nbsp; I believe the tire is actually the original one... and it =
sure=20
  looks unused based on the "nibs" (not sure what to call them) that are =
still=20
  intact on the tire, etc. </SPAN><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px"><BR=20
  clear=3Dnone></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px">One thing I noticed: as =
mentioned=20
  by others, it appears that the wheels were first painted black... then =
the=20
  front side was painted the "Off White/ very light Grey" color... as =
the=20
  "over-spray" is clearly visible on the backside of this spare. Also: =
this tire=20
  has a wheel weight stamped with the Dunlop logo. This may support the =
idea=20
  that it is original?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px"><BR=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#686667=20
  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px">Please see photos at =
this link=20
  (hope this works):</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  face=3D"verdana, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif"><SPAN=20
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sans-serif"><SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px"><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/1966%20SERIES%20V%20=
ALPINE%20ORIGINAL%20SPARE/story"=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, geneva, lucida,; =
COLOR: rgb(104,102,103); LETTER-SPACING: 1px">It=20
  may not be correct to assume that the same approach was used on the =
MKIA=20
  Tigers.&nbsp; But, seems likely (although the wheel might be a bit=20
  different?).</SPAN><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; LETTER-SPACING: 1px">Bill =
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  used.&nbsp; I still have some questions and here is what I havefound =
so far.=20
  Dunlop 590 x 13=E2=80=9D RS5 with a 1=E2=80=9D white sidewall =
orGoodyear =E2=80=9CMade in England 600=20
  x 13=E2=80=9D Roadway Speed with a 1=E2=80=9Dwhite sidewall Wheel =
=E2=80=93 standard steel 4-1/2=E2=80=9D x=20
  13=E2=80=9D rimPainted black =E2=80=93 Is this gloss black or another =
black, semi,satin,=20
  flat?Then re-sprayed a gray-white on the front =E2=80=93 what does =
thismean?&nbsp; The=20
  entire front of the wheel/rimor just a portion?&nbsp; Any rattle can =
paintcan=20
  number anyone could provide? I would like to find a current tire =
replacement=20
  =E2=80=98size=E2=80=99,165x80x13 as an example of what matches the =
590x13=E2=80=9D or=20
  600x13=E2=80=9Ddesignation.&nbsp; What does 590 or 600x13translate to? =
Does anyone=20
  have a picture of what the wheel and tire shouldbe from the front with =
the 1=E2=80=9D=20
  white sidewall and this =E2=80=98gray-white on the front=E2=80=99is =
suppose to look like that=20
  they would share? I have some LAT wheels with the markings on the =
inside=20
  of=E2=80=9CSRC 1300, 5.5 X 1300, patent pending, ?celes =
cali?=E2=80=9D&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As=20
  measured from the inside of the lip, they are 5.5=E2=80=9D wide. The =
steel wheel,=20
  chrome ring and cap that I have is 4.5=E2=80=9Dwide from the inside of =
the lip but has=20
  no markings on it that I can find,inside or outside.&nbsp; Should =
there=20
  be?Please see attached picture and tell me if this is a correct Tiger =
MK 1A=20
  sparewheel or what this might have come off of? I have had this wheel =
for so=20
  many years and no idea where I got it. Thanks again for sharing your=20
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