Subject: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

From: Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 20:19:07 -0400

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As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock
two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2 barrel
carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150 family
has a significant difference.

I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on
the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open vent
hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose,
perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.

So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right angle fitting...  I'm
thinking aquarium hose size...  That will fit under the stock air cleaner...

Any other ideas out there?

Stu

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">As =
I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two=
 barrel, I came across some interesting pictures. =C2=A0 The stock 2 barrel=
 carb is from the &quot;2100&quot; family.=C2=A0 The slightly later but rel=
ated 2150 family has a significant difference.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">I&#39;m suspecting that for one reason or another, fu=
el came out of the vent on the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, =
or whatever, and this is what fueled my recent fire.=C2=A0 The 2150, instea=
d of just having an open vent hole, has a little fitting that was apparentl=
y designed to accept a hose, perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe locati=
on.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">So I&#39;m looking fo=
r an extremely low profile right angle fitting...=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking aq=
uarium hose size...=C2=A0 That will fit under the stock air cleaner...</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Any other ideas out there?</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div></div>

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Stu=20
    This is an interesting idea that needs some careful thought and
investigation but I see a problem with where do you safely vent the fuel
vapors and fuel.
=20
The best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there =
is
enough pressure to do that correctly.
=20
A charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than =
fuel
vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.
=20
The best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for =
fuel
return to the tanks.
=20
Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Stu via
Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
To: Tiger Net
Subject: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my =
stock
two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2 =
barrel
carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150 =
family
has a significant difference.

I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent =
on
the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open =
vent
hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a =
hose,
perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.

So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right angle fitting...  I'm
thinking aquarium hose size...  That will fit under the stock air =
cleaner...

Stu

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</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D828241013-03092015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is an interesting =
idea=20
that&nbsp;needs some careful thought and investigation&nbsp;but I see a =
problem=20
with where do you&nbsp;safely&nbsp;vent the fuel vapors and=20
fuel.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D828241013-03092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D828241013-03092015>The=20
best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is =
enough=20
pressure to do that correctly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D828241013-03092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D828241013-03092015>A=20
charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than fuel =
vapors=20
plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the =
vapors.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D828241013-03092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D828241013-03092015>The=20
best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for fuel =
return to=20
the tanks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D828241013-03092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D828241013-03092015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stu via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  Tiger Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>As I cruised =
around a few=20
  web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I came =
across=20
  some interesting pictures. &nbsp; The stock 2 barrel carb is from the =
"2100"=20
  family.&nbsp; The slightly later but related 2150 family has a =
significant=20
  difference.</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>I'm suspecting =
that for one=20
  reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the fuel =
bowl,=20
  boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled my recent=20
  fire.&nbsp; The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, has a =
little=20
  fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, perhaps to =
drain any=20
  overflow to a safe location.</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>So I'm looking =
for an=20
  extremely low profile right angle fitting...&nbsp; I'm thinking =
aquarium hose=20
  size...&nbsp; That will fit under the stock air cleaner...</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>Any other ideas =
out=20
  there?</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"=20
class=3Dgmail_default>Stu</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 09:51:57 -0400

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That seems like a fire waiting to happen.
=20
I would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are =
major
challenges with that system too.
=20
Ron Fraser

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From: michael king [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:38 AM
To: Ron Fraser
Cc: Stu; Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel leftover in the
manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!

On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Stu=20

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>That=20
seems like a fire waiting to happen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>I=20
would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are=20
major&nbsp;challenges with that system too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> michael king=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September =
03,=20
  2015 9:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ron Fraser<BR><B>Cc:</B> Stu; Tiger Talk =
List=20
  Tiger<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P dir=3Dltr>Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel =
leftover in=20
  the manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!</P>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR=20
  type=3D"attribution">
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
  class=3Dgmail_quote><U></U>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>Stu =
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is=20
    an interesting idea that&nbsp;needs some careful thought and=20
    investigation&nbsp;but I see a problem with where do=20
    you&nbsp;safely&nbsp;vent the fuel vapors and =
fuel.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>The best =
place would be=20
    back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is enough pressure to =
do that=20
    correctly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>A charcoal =
canister might=20
    work but I'm not sure it can take more than fuel vapors plus it has =
to be=20
    vented properly to recycle the vapors.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>The best =
solution would be=20
    TBI which does have the correct system for fuel return to the=20
    tanks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>Ron=20
    Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma>-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers [mailto:<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Stu=20
      via Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tiger Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Interesting =

      carburetor Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>As I cruised =
around a=20
      few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I =
came=20
      across some interesting pictures. &nbsp; The stock 2 barrel carb =
is from=20
      the "2100" family.&nbsp; The slightly later but related 2150 =
family has a=20
      significant difference.</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>I'm =
suspecting that for=20
      one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the =
fuel=20
      bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled =
my recent=20
      fire.&nbsp; The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, =
has a=20
      little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, =
perhaps to=20
      drain any overflow to a safe location.</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>So I'm =
looking for an=20
      extremely low profile right angle fitting...&nbsp; I'm thinking =
aquarium=20
      hose size...&nbsp; That will fit under the stock air =
cleaner...</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>Any other =
ideas out=20
      there?</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"=20
    =
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Cool!  Add a bung and spark plug near the end of the exhaust pipe and we
can be shooting out flames!!!!

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]

> I would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are
> major challenges with that system too.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* michael king [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:38 AM
> *To:* Ron Fraser
> *Cc:* Stu; Tiger Talk List Tiger
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
>
> On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> Stu
>> The best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is
>> A charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than
>> fuel vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.
>>
>> The best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for
>> fuel return to the tanks.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> *From:* Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Stu
>> via Tigers
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
>> *To:* Tiger Net
>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
>>
>> As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my
>> stock two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2
>> barrel carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150
>> family has a significant difference.
>>
>> I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent
>> on the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Cool!=C2=A0 Add a bung and spark plug near the end of the =
exhaust pipe and we can be shooting out flames!!!!</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Ron =
Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

<div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">That=20
seems like a fire waiting to happen.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">I=20
would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are=20
major=C2=A0challenges with that system too.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><span><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Ron=20
Fraser</font></span></div>
<blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> michael king=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mic=
[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 03,=20
  2015 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser<br><b>Cc:</b> Stu; Tiger Talk List=
=20
  Tiger<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<br><br></font></div>
  <p dir=3D"ltr">Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel le=
ftover in=20
  the manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!</p>
  <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, &quot;Ron Fraser via Tige=
rs&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tig=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
  <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><u></u>
    <div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Stu </span=
></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 This is=20
    an interesting idea that=C2=A0needs some careful thought and=20
    investigation=C2=A0but I see a problem with where do=20
    you=C2=A0safely=C2=A0vent the fuel vapors and fuel.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The best p=
lace would be=20
    back to the fuel tanks but I don&#39;t think there is enough pressure t=
o do that=20
    correctly.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>A charcoal=
 canister might=20
    work but I&#39;m not sure it can take more than fuel vapors plus it has=
 to be=20
    vented properly to recycle the vapors.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The best s=
olution would be=20
    TBI which does have the correct system for fuel return to the=20
    tanks.</span></font></div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></f=
ont>=C2=A0</div>
    <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
    Fraser</span></font></div>
    <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
      <div></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Tahoma">-----Original=20
      Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stu=20
      via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19=20
      PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Interesting=20
      carburetor Observation<br><br></font></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">As I cruised a=
round a=20
      few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I ca=
me=20
      across some interesting pictures. =C2=A0 The stock 2 barrel carb is f=
rom=20
      the &quot;2100&quot; family.=C2=A0 The slightly later but related 215=
0 family has a=20
      significant difference.</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I&#39;m suspec=
ting that for=20
      one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the fu=
el=20
      bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled my r=
ecent=20
      fire.=C2=A0 The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, has a=
=20
      little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, perhaps=
 to=20
      drain any overflow to a safe location.</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">So I&#39;m loo=
king for an=20
      extremely low profile right angle fitting...=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking a=
quarium=20
      hose size...=C2=A0 That will fit under the stock air cleaner...</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Any other idea=
s out=20
      there?</div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Stu</div></div=
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 09:47:39 -0400

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Now that's interesting.   The float bowl must be vented to allow easy =
fuel
flow.=20
=20
The Autolite has 2 vent tubes inside the air cleaner and 1 outside.  Why =
was
the outside vent needed?
=20
Still this matters little if fuel is being pumped out the vents and =
there is
a backfire.  You still have a fire.
=20
The cause of the fuel pumping out has to be fixed first no matter what =
carb.
=20
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Mayfield [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 7:16 AM
To: [email-masked]; 'Stu'; Tiger List
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

Seems to me that the float bowl must be vented to atmosphere in some =
manner,
for the carb to function. The old Ford carburetors went the simplest =
route
they could, vented right on top of the bowl cover. The very easiest fix =
is
to install one of the small Holley 2 BBL carbs which have the vent =
system
inside the air filter ring area on the top of the carb.  Either the 350 =
or
500 cfm versions work well.  =20

=20

Mayf

=20

_________________________
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Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D734283813-04092015>Now=20
that's interesting.&nbsp;&nbsp; The float bowl must be vented to allow =
easy fuel=20
flow.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D734283813-04092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D734283813-04092015>The=20
Autolite has 2 vent tubes inside the air cleaner and 1 outside.&nbsp; =
Why was=20
the outside vent needed?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D734283813-04092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D734283813-04092015>Still=20
this matters little if fuel is being pumped out the vents and there is a =

backfire.&nbsp; You still have a fire.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D734283813-04092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D734283813-04092015>The=20
cause of the fuel pumping out has to be fixed first no matter what=20
carb.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D734283813-04092015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D734283813-04092015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Larry =
Mayfield=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 04, 2015 =
7:16=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> [email-masked]; 'Stu'; Tiger =
List<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  RE: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Seems to me that =
the float=20
  bowl must be vented to atmosphere in some manner, for the carb to =
function.=20
  The old Ford carburetors went the simplest route they could, vented =
right on=20
  top of the bowl cover. The very easiest fix is to install one of the =
small=20
  Holley 2 BBL carbs which have the vent system inside the air filter =
ring area=20
  on the top of the carb. &nbsp;Either the 350 or 500 cfm versions work=20
  well.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">_________________________<BR>drmayf<BR>Worlds=20
  Fastest Sunbeam, period.<BR>204.913 mph flying mile<BR>210.779 mph top =

  speed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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