Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

From: michael king via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 23:38:18 +1000

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Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel leftover in the
manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!
On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Stu
>     This is an interesting idea that needs some careful thought and
> investigation but I see a problem with where do you safely vent the fuel
> vapors and fuel.
>
> The best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is
> enough pressure to do that correctly.
>
> A charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than fuel
> vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.
>
> The best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for fuel
> return to the tanks.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Stu
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
> *To:* Tiger Net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
>
> As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock
> two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2 barrel
> carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150 family
> has a significant difference.
>
> I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent
> on the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
> what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open vent
> hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose,
> perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.
>
> So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right angle fitting...  I'm
> thinking aquarium hose size...  That will fit under the stock air cleaner...
>
> Any other ideas out there?
>
> Stu
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel left=
over in the manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!<=
/p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, &quot;Ron Fraser via Tigers=
&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u=

<div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Stu=20
</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 This is an interesting idea=20
that=C2=A0needs some careful thought and investigation=C2=A0but I see a pro=
blem=20
with where do you=C2=A0safely=C2=A0vent the fuel vapors and=20
fuel.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The=20
best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don&#39;t think there is e=
nough=20
pressure to do that correctly.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>A=20
charcoal canister might work but I&#39;m not sure it can take more than fue=
l vapors=20
plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.</span></font></div=
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The=20
best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for fuel retu=
rn to=20
the tanks.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stu via=20
  Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM<br><b>To:</b=
>=20
  Tiger Net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<br><br></font></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">As I cruised aroun=
d a few=20
  web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I came acros=
s=20
  some interesting pictures. =C2=A0 The stock 2 barrel carb is from the &qu=
ot;2100&quot;=20
  family.=C2=A0 The slightly later but related 2150 family has a significan=
t=20
  difference.</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">I&#39;m suspecting=
 that for one=20
  reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the fuel bowl,=
=20
  boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled my recent=20
  fire.=C2=A0 The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, has a lit=
tle=20
  fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, perhaps to drain a=
ny=20
  overflow to a safe location.</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">So I&#39;m looking=
 for an=20
  extremely low profile right angle fitting...=C2=A0 I&#39;m thinking aquar=
ium hose=20
  size...=C2=A0 That will fit under the stock air cleaner...</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Any other ideas ou=
t=20
  there?</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small" class=3D"gmail_default">Stu</div></div></b=
lockquote></div>
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Seems to me that the float bowl must be vented to atmosphere in some manner,
for the carb to function. The old Ford carburetors went the simplest route
they could, vented right on top of the bowl cover. The very easiest fix is
to install one of the small Holley 2 BBL carbs which have the vent system
inside the air filter ring area on the top of the carb.  Either the 350 or
500 cfm versions work well.   

Mayf

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204.913 mph flying mile
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From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 6:23 AM
To: 'Stu' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

Stu 

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Stu via
Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
To: Tiger Net
Subject: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation

I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on
the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open vent
hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose,
perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.

Stu

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Seems to me that the =
float bowl must be vented to atmosphere in some manner, for the carb to =
function. The old Ford carburetors went the simplest route they could, =
vented right on top of the bowl cover. The very easiest fix is to =
install one of the small Holley 2 BBL carbs which have the vent system =
inside the air filter ring area on the top of the carb. &nbsp;Either the =
350 or 500 cfm versions work well.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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>_________________________<br>drmayf<br>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, =
period.<br>204.913 mph flying mile<br>210.779 mph top =
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Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron =
Fraser via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 3, 2015 6:23 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Stu' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Interesting =
carburetor Observation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Stu =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is an interesting idea that&nbsp;needs some careful =
thought and investigation&nbsp;but I see a problem with where do =
you&nbsp;safely&nbsp;vent the fuel vapors and =
fuel.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>The =
best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is =
enough pressure to do that correctly.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>A =
charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than fuel =
vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the =
vapors.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>The =
best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for fuel =
return to the tanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue'>Ron =
Fraser</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>-----Original =
Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stu via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger =
Net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Interesting carburetor =
Observation</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>As I =
cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock =
two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures. &nbsp; The stock 2 =
barrel carb is from the &quot;2100&quot; family.&nbsp; The slightly =
later but related 2150 family has a significant =
difference.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel =
came out of the vent on the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, =
or whatever, and this is what fueled my recent fire.&nbsp; The 2150, =
instead of just having an open vent hole, has a little fitting that was =
apparently designed to accept a hose, perhaps to drain any overflow to a =
safe location.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right =
angle fitting...&nbsp; I'm thinking aquarium hose size...&nbsp; That =
will fit under the stock air cleaner...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any other ideas out there?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Stu<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></body=
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