Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:59 +0000 (UTC)

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Thanks Ron
It appears this was a 'canvas or cotton fabric' tan strap 2" wide by about =
10" long from the 1st stay to the back 2nd stay attached with the 2 rivets =
and the small metal part, which I found but the fabric will need to be repl=
aced.
My question is the header rail to the 1st stay, which looks to be about 36"=
 long. =C2=A0This would make this a 2 piece strap. =C2=A0The 1st stay would=
 have basically 4 wraps here, one from header to 1st stay and then 1st stay=
 to back or 2nd stay. =C2=A0Does this sound right?
Also the 1st stay was covered in foam then wrapped with grey fabric over al=
most the entire stay??
I am going with the old covers painted machine grey and send the SS chrome =
versions back.
The cantail velcro will have to be made by upholstery shop.
Getting closer on this.
Thanks again.
Joel Martin=20

Message1st picture Metal part on bow=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2nd pic - header=C2=
=A0Metal partlength =3D 1.95"width =3D .5"thickness =3D .050"material - ste=
el=C2=A0Ron
  -----Original Message-----
From: Ron Fraser [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:28 AM
To: [email-masked]; 'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

 Joel =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I just looked at some of the parts I have. =C2=A0 =
Webbing is about 2" wide - looks like cotton fabric =C2=A0 Header has 3 pop=
 rivets with no metal piece - a piece of foam covers the rivet area. =C2=A0=
 Bows have a small metal part with 2 pop rivets. =C2=A0 Looking at the Alpi=
ne Parts List - Body Fittings - Plate D - header looks like it has 3 notche=
s for webbing - this is also the cable style top. =C2=A0 I'll take some pic=
ture and measure the parts later today. =C2=A0 Ron Fraser=20
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser=
 via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:02 AM
To: 'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

 Joel =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Alpine Parts List shows some of this - Body Fittin=
gs http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/Alpine/alpine_p=
art_list.asp =C2=A0 My soft top is stowed under the hard top so I can't get=
 to it very well. =C2=A0 Metal plates just distribute the load of the pop r=
ivets to the webbing=C2=A0- rectangular piece of metal. Not sure I have an =
example - I will look. =C2=A0 Velcro is on the canrails and on the soft top=
. =C2=A0 Ron Fraser=20
  -----Original Message-----
From: Joel Martin [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:52 AM
To: Ross Hulse; [email-masked]; Ron Fraser
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

  Thanks for the responses.=20
 The rootes manual only shows a diagram for the cable tension soft top. =C2=
=A0What do I need to look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top frame?=
=20
 Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=
 plates. =C2=A0The webbing is how long and how wide? =C2=A0Ron indicates, I=
 interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bow (2) and then the rear bo=
w (3) if I am reading this correctly. =C2=A0Metal plates are a mystery at t=
his point - not sure if I have these or not.
=20
 So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH=
 which is about 24" long for securing to the top which has Velcro already s=
ewn into it?=20
 Thanks again=20
 Joel Martin
=20
=C2=A0

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yiv5887988528"><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10900"><div style=3D"color:#000;backgro=
und-color:#fff;font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10899"><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_=
0_1_1440282642143_4820"><span id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143=
_5239">Thanks Ron</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_14402826=
42143_4820"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_=
16_0_1_1440282642143_5708">It appears this was a 'canvas or cotton fabric' =
tan strap 2" wide by about 10" long from the 1st stay to the back 2nd stay =
attached with the 2 rivets and the small metal part, which I found but the =
fabric will need to be replaced.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_=
16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yi=
v5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1440282642143_13922">My question is the header rail to the 1st stay, =
which looks to be about 36" long. &nbsp;This would make this a 2 piece stra=
p. &nbsp;The 1st stay would have basically 4 wraps here, one from header to=
 1st stay and then 1st stay to back or 2nd stay. &nbsp;Does this sound righ=
t?</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=
=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_144028=
2642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14517">Als=
o the 1st stay was covered in foam then wrapped with grey fabric over almos=
t the entire stay??</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_144028=
2642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282=
642143_15501">I am going with the old covers painted machine grey and send =
the SS chrome versions back.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0=
_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yiv588=
7988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1440282642143_15489">The cantail velcro will have to be made by upholster=
y shop.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=
" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1=
440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Getting closer on this.</span></div><d=
iv id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span><b=
r></span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=
=3D"ltr"><span>Thanks again.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0=
_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yiv588=
7988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Joel Martin</span=
></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv5887988528qtdSeparateBR" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10913"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt1977026368" id=3D"yiv5887988528yqt39459">=
</div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt1977026368" id=3D"yiv588798=
8528yqt44910"><title>Message</title><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_1=
0919"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10918">
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10917"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10916"><font color=3D"#0000ff" si=
ze=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10915">1st=20
picture Metal part on bow&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2nd pic - header</font></span><=
/div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10921"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&n=
bsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10923"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Metal=20
part</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10925"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_15512"><font color=3D"#0000ff" si=
ze=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">length=20
=3D 1.95"</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10927"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">width=20
=3D .5"</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10929"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">thickness =3D .0=
50"</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10931"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">material - steel=
</font></span></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10933"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&n=
bsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11186"><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-2=
0082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Ron</font></span=
></div>
<blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440=
282642143_11190">
  <div></div>
  <div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt5026463561" id=3D"yiv5887988528yqt37388"><d=
iv align=3D"left" class=3D"yiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" l=
ang=3D"en-us" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11189"><font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Tahoma" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11192">-----Original Message--=
---<br clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, A=
ugust 20, 2015 11:28=20
  AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; 'Joel Martin'; 'Ros=
s=20
  Hulse'<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Over Engineered Sof=
t=20
  Top<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">Joel</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just looked at some of the parts=
=20
  I have.</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">Webbing is about 2" wide - looks like cotton=20
  fabric</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">Header has 3 pop rivets with no metal piece - a piece=
=20
  of foam covers the rivet area.</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">Bows=20
  have a small metal part with 2 pop rivets.</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14514"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14513"><span class=
=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14512">Looking=
 at the Alpine Parts List - Body Fittings -=20
  Plate D - header looks like it has 3 notches for webbing - this is also t=
he=20
  cable style top.</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">I'll=20
  take some picture and measure the parts later today.</span></font></div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv=
5887988528-20082015">Ron=20
  Fraser</span></font></div></div>
  <blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14=
40282642143_14267">
    <div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt5026463561" id=3D"yiv5887988528yqt95283">=
<div></div>
    <div align=3D"left" class=3D"yiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"=
ltr" lang=3D"en-us" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14266"><font size=3D"2=
" face=3D"Tahoma" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14265">-----Original Mes=
sage-----<br clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
    [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Fraser v=
ia=20
    Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:02 A=
M<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=20
    'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'; [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Subject:</b> Re:=20
    [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
</font></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Joel</font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font co=
lor=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Alpine Parts List shows some of t=
his - Body=20
    Fittings</font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/Alpine/al=
pine_part_list.asp">http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_lis=
t/Alpine/alpine_part_list.asp</a></font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">My=20
    soft top is stowed under the hard top so I can't get to it very=20
    well.</font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Metal plates just distribute the load of the pop riv=
ets to the=20
    webbing&nbsp;- rectangular piece of metal.</font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Not sure I have an example - I will look.</font></sp=
an></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Velcro is on the canrails and on the soft=20
top.</font></span></div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
    <div><span class=3D"yiv5887988528-20082015"><font color=3D"#0000ff" siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Ron Fraser</font></span></div></div>
    <blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1440282642143_14270">
      <div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt5026463561" id=3D"yiv5887988528yqt57327=
"><div></div>
      <div align=3D"left" class=3D"yiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader" dir=
=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Mess=
age-----<br clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Joel Martin=20
      [mailto:[email-masked]] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursda=
y, August 20, 2015=20
      9:52 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Ross Hulse; [email-masked]=
t; Ron=20
      Fraser<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered=
 Soft=20
      Top<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div></div>
      <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, t=
imes, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14=
269">
      <div class=3D"yiv5887988528yqt5026463561" id=3D"yiv5887988528yqt67755=
"><div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span id=3D"yiv5=
887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8525">Thanks for the responses.</span><=
/div>
      <div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></span></div>
      <div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span id=3D"=
yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_9971">The rootes manual only shows =
a diagram=20
      for the cable tension soft top. &nbsp;What do I need to look for in a=
=20
      Velcro verses cable tension top frame?</span></div>
      <div id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></span></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497">=
<span id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8570" style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY:Arial;COLOR:rgb(0,0,255);FONT-SIZE:small;">Notch is for webbing that po=
p rivets to=20
      the header and the bows with metal plates. &nbsp;</span><span id=3D"y=
iv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_13137" style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FO=
NT-SIZE:small;">The webbing is how long and how wide?=20
      &nbsp;Ron indicates, I interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle =
bow=20
      (2) and then the rear bow (3) if I am reading this correctly. &nbsp;M=
etal=20
      plates are a mystery at this point - not sure if I have these or=20
      not.</span><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497">=
<span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></spa=
n></div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497">=
<span id=3D"yiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_15044" style=3D"FONT-FA=
MILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:small;">So if the Velcro frame, does the=20
      Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH which is about 24" long for=
=20
      securing to the top which has Velcro already sewn into it?</span></di=
v>
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MessageJoel,
I have attached pictures of my car=E2=80=99s original top frame.  The =
frame was replaced by a junk-yard donor about 40 years ago and has =
resided in my basement unrestored and unmolested (except by rodents in =
my basement) for all that time.  The strap that connects header and =
stays is in two pieces and the two pieces are not of the same material.  =
The piece that spans from header to front stay is somewhat elastic and =
stretches a bit when the top is erected.  The second piece spans from =
front stay to back stay and is rigid (won=E2=80=99t stretch).  In the =
pictures, the strap between front and rear stays is intact but the strap =
(the elastic one) from front header to front stay is mostly gone.  It =
looks like the first strap is pop riveted to the top of the header, =
loops under the front stay and then is pop riveted at the top of the =
stay along with the second strap.  The second strap loops under the rear =
stay and pop rivets to the top of the stay.

When I replace my top frame I replaced the straps with a length of nylon =
seat belt material.  I didn=E2=80=99t attempt to find an elastic =
replacement.  Back then the car was my daily driver and I considered the =
replacement to be a repair, not a restoration.  In taking the pictures, =
I noticed that the front stay was wrapped in gray vinyl.  I had =
forgotten about that.  Depending on how particular you are about your =
restoration, you may want to go shopping for some gray vinyl.

-Good luck

Will - [email-masked]
______________________________
"I think not therefore I am not" (anon)

From: Joel Martin via Tigers=20
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 6:43 PM
To: [email-masked] ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

Thanks Ron

It appears this was a 'canvas or cotton fabric' tan strap 2" wide by =
about 10" long from the 1st stay to the back 2nd stay attached with the =
2 rivets and the small metal part, which I found but the fabric will =
need to be replaced.

My question is the header rail to the 1st stay, which looks to be about =
36" long.  This would make this a 2 piece strap.  The 1st stay would =
have basically 4 wraps here, one from header to 1st stay and then 1st =
stay to back or 2nd stay.  Does this sound right?

Also the 1st stay was covered in foam then wrapped with grey fabric over =
almost the entire stay??

I am going with the old covers painted machine grey and send the SS =
chrome versions back.

Getting closer on this.

Thanks again.

Joel Martin

1st picture Metal part on bow    2nd pic - header

Metal part
length =3D 1.95"
width =3D .5"
thickness =3D .050"
material - steel

Ron
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ron Fraser [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:28 AM
  To: [email-masked]; 'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'
  Subject: RE: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

  Joel
      I just looked at some of the parts I have.

  Webbing is about 2" wide - looks like cotton fabric

  Header has 3 pop rivets with no metal piece - a piece of foam covers =
the rivet area.

  Bows have a small metal part with 2 pop rivets.

  Looking at the Alpine Parts List - Body Fittings - Plate D - header =
looks like it has 3 notches for webbing - this is also the cable style =
top.

  I'll take some picture and measure the parts later today.

  Ron Fraser
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ron =
Fraser via Tigers
    Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:02 AM
    To: 'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'; [email-masked]
    Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

    Joel
        Alpine Parts List shows some of this - Body Fittings
    =
http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/Alpine/alpine_pa=
rt_list.asp

    My soft top is stowed under the hard top so I can't get to it very =
well.

    Metal plates just distribute the load of the pop rivets to the =
webbing - rectangular piece of metal.
    Not sure I have an example - I will look.

    Velcro is on the canrails and on the soft top.

    Ron Fraser
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Joel Martin [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
      Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:52 AM
      To: Ross Hulse; [email-masked]; Ron Fraser
      Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

      Thanks for the responses.

      The rootes manual only shows a diagram for the cable tension soft =
top.  What do I need to look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top =
frame?

      Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows =
with metal plates.  The webbing is how long and how wide?  Ron =
indicates, I interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bow (2) and =
then the rear bow (3) if I am reading this correctly.  Metal plates are =
a mystery at this point - not sure if I have these or not.

      So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' =
RH and LH which is about 24" long for securing to the top which has =
Velcro already sewn into it?

      Thanks again

      Joel Martin

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Joel,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I have attached pictures of my car=E2=80=99s =
original top frame.&nbsp;=20
The frame was replaced by a junk-yard donor about 40 years ago and has =
resided=20
in my basement unrestored and unmolested (except by rodents in my =
basement) for=20
all that time.&nbsp; The strap that connects header and stays is in two =
pieces=20
and the two pieces are not of the same material.&nbsp; The piece that =
spans from=20
header to front stay is somewhat elastic and stretches a bit when the =
top is=20
erected.&nbsp; The second piece spans from front stay to back stay and =
is rigid=20
(won=E2=80=99t stretch).&nbsp; In the pictures, the strap between front =
and rear stays=20
is intact but the strap (the elastic one) from front header to front =
stay is=20
mostly gone.&nbsp; It looks like the first strap is pop riveted to the =
top of=20
the header, loops under the front stay and then is pop riveted at the =
top of the=20
stay along with the second strap.&nbsp; The second strap loops under the =
rear=20
stay and pop rivets to the top of the stay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>When I replace my top frame I replaced the straps =
with a=20
length of nylon seat belt material.&nbsp; I didn=E2=80=99t attempt to =
find an elastic=20
replacement.&nbsp; Back then the car was my daily driver and I =
considered the=20
replacement to be a repair, not a restoration.&nbsp; In taking the =
pictures, I=20
noticed that the front stay was wrapped in gray vinyl.&nbsp; I had =
forgotten=20
about that.&nbsp; Depending on how particular you are about your =
restoration,=20
you may want to go shopping for some gray vinyl.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>-Good luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#000000">Will -=20
[email-masked]<BR>______________________________<BR>"I think not =
therefore=20
I am not" (anon)</DIV>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Joel Martin via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 22, 2015 6:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> ; <A=20
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft =
Top</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, new york, times, serif; =
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<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10899=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, new york, times, serif; =
COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820><SPAN=20
id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_5239>Thanks =
Ron</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820><SPAN><BR=20
clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_5708>It appears this was a =
'canvas or=20
cotton fabric' tan strap 2" wide by about 10" long from the 1st stay to =
the back=20
2nd stay attached with the 2 rivets and the small metal part, which I =
found but=20
the fabric will need to be replaced.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_13922>My question is the header rail to =
the 1st=20
stay, which looks to be about 36" long.&nbsp; This would make this a 2 =
piece=20
strap.&nbsp; The 1st stay would have basically 4 wraps here, one from =
header to=20
1st stay and then 1st stay to back or 2nd stay.&nbsp; Does this sound=20
right?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14517>Also the 1st stay was covered in =
foam then=20
wrapped with grey fabric over almost the entire stay??</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_15501>I am going with the old covers =
painted=20
machine grey and send the SS chrome versions back.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_15489>The cantail velcro will have to be =
made by=20
upholstery shop.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN>Getting=20
closer on this.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN>Thanks=20
again.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820=20
dir=3Dltr><SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_4820 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN>Joel=20
Martin</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10913 =
class=3Dyiv5887988528qtdSeparateBR><BR=20
clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yqt39459=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528yqt1977026368></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yqt44910 class=3Dyiv5887988528yqt1977026368>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10919>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10918>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10917><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10916 =
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10915 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>1st picture=20
Metal part on bow&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2nd pic - header</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10921><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10923><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Metal=20
part</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10925><SPAN=20
id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_15512 =
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>length =3D =
1.95"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10927><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>width =3D=20
.5"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10929><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>thickness =3D=20
.050"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10931><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>material -=20
steel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_10933><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11186><SPAN=20
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>Ron</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11190 style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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dir=3Dltr>
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  <DIV lang=3Den-us id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11189=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =

  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_11192 size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma>-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR clear=3Dnone><B>From:</B> Ron Fraser=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <BR clear=3Dnone><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, =
August 20,=20
  2015 11:28 AM<BR clear=3Dnone><B>To:</B> [email-masked]; 'Joel =
Martin';=20
  'Ross Hulse'<BR clear=3Dnone><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Tigers] Over =
Engineered Soft=20
  Top<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Joel</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just looked at =
some of the=20
  parts I have.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Webbing is about 2" wide - looks like =
cotton=20
  fabric</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Header has 3 pop rivets with no metal =
piece - a=20
  piece of foam covers the rivet area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Bows have a small metal part with 2 pop =

  rivets.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14514><FONT=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14513 color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14512 =
class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Looking at=20
  the Alpine Parts List - Body Fittings - Plate D - header looks like it =
has 3=20
  notches for webbing - this is also the cable style =
top.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>I'll take some picture and measure the =
parts=20
  later today.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
  class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>Ron Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14267 =
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    <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yqt95283 class=3Dyiv5887988528yqt5026463561>
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV lang=3Den-us id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14266=20
    class=3Dyiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
    id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14265 size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma>-----Original=20
    Message-----<BR clear=3Dnone><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
    [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron =
Fraser via=20
    Tigers<BR clear=3Dnone><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:02 =
AM<BR=20
    clear=3Dnone><B>To:</B> 'Joel Martin'; 'Ross Hulse'; =
[email-masked]<BR=20
    clear=3Dnone><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft =
Top<BR=20
    clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>Joel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial>Alpine Parts List shows some =
of this - Body=20
    Fittings</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/Alpine/a=
lpine_part_list.asp"=20
    shape=3Drect rel=3Dnofollow=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/=
Alpine/alpine_part_list.asp</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>My soft top is stowed under the hard top so I can't get =
to it=20
    very well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>Metal plates just distribute the load of the pop rivets =
to the=20
    webbing - rectangular piece of metal.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>Not sure I have an example - I will =
look.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>Velcro is on the canrails and on the soft=20
top.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3Dyiv5887988528-20082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2=20
    face=3DArial>Ron Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14270 =
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      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yqt57327 =
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      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV lang=3Den-us class=3Dyiv5887988528OutlookMessageHeader =
dir=3Dltr=20
      align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma>-----Original =
Message-----<BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><B>From:</B> Joel Martin =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:52 AM<BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><B>To:</B> Ross Hulse; [email-masked]; Ron =
Fraser<BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft =
Top<BR=20
      clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone></FONT></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440282642143_14269=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, new york, times, =
serif; COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yqt67755 =
class=3Dyiv5887988528yqt5026463561>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497><SPAN=20
      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8525>Thanks for the=20
      responses.</SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497><SPAN><BR=20
      clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497><SPAN=20
      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_9971>The rootes =
manual only=20
      shows a diagram for the cable tension soft top.&nbsp; What do I =
need to=20
      look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top frame?</SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497><SPAN><BR=20
      clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8570=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,255)">Notch is=20
      for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=20
      plates.&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN=20
      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_13137=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial">The webbing is how =
long and=20
      how wide?&nbsp; Ron indicates, I interrupt, attaches to the header =
(1),=20
      middle bow (2) and then the rear bow (3) if I am reading this=20
      correctly.&nbsp; Metal plates are a mystery at this point - not =
sure if I=20
      have these or not.</SPAN><SPAN><BR clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR =
clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_15044=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial">So if the Velcro =
frame, does=20
      the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH which is about 24" =
long for=20
      securing to the top which has Velcro already sewn into =
it?</SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR =
clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
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      id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_15687=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Thanks =
again</SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyiv5887988528yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497 =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR =
clear=3Dnone></SPAN></DIV>
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dir=3Dltr><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Joel=20
Martin</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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