Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

From: Tom Parker via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:47:26 -0400

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Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on the sides. Look
for rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definitely does.

Tom
'67 Mark 2

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Joel
>
> Most Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.
>
> There are 2 tensions cables.
> Are you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.  My early Mk 1A uses Velcro
> along the side rails instead of the cables.
>
> You need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.  See TigersUnited.com
> and look for the Tiger and Alpine Parts List there.
>
> Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal
> plates.
>
> My cover plates are Machine Gray.
>
> Write ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.
> There was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if
> it is still there or if I can find it again
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Martin via Tigers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top
>
> Well, we started on the soft top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.  Would you say
> this is a over engineered, complicated set up?
>
> The tension cable and retainer spring, which I have neither, where does
> the retaining spring attach to?  The from collar, I believe attached to the
> Peak rail.  Are there 2 tension cable, one on either side?
>
> The peak rail or header rail looks to have a notch in the center with
> several holes to hold something here - what?  The Rootes manual section O
> body does not show anything.
>
> The cover plate, RH and LH, - are they suppose to be machinery grey
> painted like the frame or chrome as received from SS?
>
> Are there any good write ups with pictures on soft top frame and top
> installation?  I have not been able to find anything.
>
> Pictures on the entire top set up would be greatly appreciated.  My little
> 3 stop light town does not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a
> blender, so going to look is not possible.
>
> Regards
>
> Joel Martin
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ron&#39;s right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro=
 on the sides. Look for rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 defi=
nitely does.<div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div>&#39;67 Mark 2</div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015=
 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

<div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Joel</span></f=
ont></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Most=20
Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.</span></font><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
are 2 tensions cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Are=20
you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.=C2=A0 My early Mk 1A uses Velcro =
along=20
the side rails=C2=A0instead of the cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.=C2=A0 See TigersUnited.com =
and=20
look for the Tiger and Alpine=C2=A0Parts List there.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Notch=20
is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=20
plates.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>My=20
cover plates are Machine Gray.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Write=20
ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if it is st=
ill=20
there or if I can find it again</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin via=20
  Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b>=
=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft=20
  Top<br><br></font></div>
  <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond,new york,times,s=
erif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Well, we started on the soft=20
  top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.=C2=A0 Would you say this is a over engineered=
,=20
  complicated set up?=C2=A0</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The tension cable and=20
  retainer spring, which I have neither, where does the retaining spring at=
tach=20
  to?=C2=A0 The from collar, I believe attached to the Peak rail.=C2=A0 Are=
=20
  there 2 tension cable, one on either side?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The peak rail or header rail=20
  looks to have a notch in the center with several holes to hold something =
here=20
  - what?=C2=A0 The Rootes manual section O body does not show anything.</d=
iv>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The cover plate, RH and LH, -=20
  are they suppose to be machinery grey painted like the frame or chrome as=
=20
  received from SS?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Are there any good write ups=20
  with pictures on soft top frame and top installation?=C2=A0 I have not be=
en=20
  able to find anything.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Pictures on the entire top=20
  set up would be greatly appreciated.=C2=A0 My little 3 stop light town do=
es=20
  not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a blender, so going to look is=
 not=20
  possible.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Joel=20
Martin</div></div></blockquote></div>
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From: Dave via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:59:40 -0300

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MessageHere =E2=80=98ya go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRkC3DUDoKTk

Enjoy watching Commodore Blue do his thing...great job!

Dave

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:40 AM
To: 'Joel Martin'=20
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

Joel

There are 2 tensions cables.
Are you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.  My early Mk 1A uses =
Velcro along the side rails instead of the cables.

You need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.  See =
TigersUnited.com and look for the Tiger and Alpine Parts List there.

Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with =
metal plates.

Write ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.
There was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if =
it is still there or if I can find it again

Ron Fraser

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Joel =
Martin via Tigers
  Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM
  To: [email-masked]
  Subject: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

  Well, we started on the soft top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.  Would you =
say this is a over engineered, complicated set up?=20

  The tension cable and retainer spring, which I have neither, where =
does the retaining spring attach to?  The from collar, I believe =
attached to the Peak rail.  Are there 2 tension cable, one on either =
side?

  The peak rail or header rail looks to have a notch in the center with =
several holes to hold something here - what?  The Rootes manual section =
O body does not show anything.

  The cover plate, RH and LH, - are they suppose to be machinery grey =
painted like the frame or chrome as received from SS?

  Are there any good write ups with pictures on soft top frame and top =
installation?  I have not been able to find anything.

  Pictures on the entire top set up would be greatly appreciated.  My =
little 3 stop light town does not even know what a Sunbeam is other than =
a blender, so going to look is not possible.

  Regards

  Joel Martin

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<DIV><A title=3Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRkC3DUDoKTk=20
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<DIV>Enjoy watching Commodore Blue do his thing...great job!</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Ron Fraser via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:40 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Joel Martin'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft =
Top</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015>Joel</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>Most=20
Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and =
longevity.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>There=20
are 2 tensions cables.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>Are=20
you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.&nbsp; My early Mk 1A uses =
Velcro along=20
the side rails instead of the cables.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>You=20
need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.&nbsp; See =
TigersUnited.com and=20
look for the Tiger and Alpine Parts List there.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>Notch=20
is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=20
plates.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>My=20
cover plates are Machine Gray.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>Write=20
ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>There=20
was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if it is =
still=20
there or if I can find it again</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D937412314-19082015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D937412314-19082015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Joel Martin =
via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft =

  Top<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: garamond, new york, times, =
serif; COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>Well, we started =
on the soft=20
  top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.&nbsp; Would you say this is a over =
engineered,=20
  complicated set up? </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>The tension cable =
and=20
  retainer spring, which I have neither, where does the retaining spring =
attach=20
  to?&nbsp; The from collar, I believe attached to the Peak rail.&nbsp; =
Are=20
  there 2 tension cable, one on either side?</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>The peak rail or =
header rail=20
  looks to have a notch in the center with several holes to hold =
something here=20
  - what?&nbsp; The Rootes manual section O body does not show =
anything.</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>The cover plate, =
RH and LH, -=20
  are they suppose to be machinery grey painted like the frame or chrome =
as=20
  received from SS?</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>Are there any =
good write ups=20
  with pictures on soft top frame and top installation?&nbsp; I have not =
been=20
  able to find anything.</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>Pictures on the =
entire top=20
  set up would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; My little 3 stop light town =
does=20
  not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a blender, so going to look =
is not=20
  possible.</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>Regards</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1439990129173_15094 dir=3Dltr>Joel=20
Martin</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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From: Joel Martin via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Thanks for the responses.
The rootes manual only shows a diagram for the cable tension soft top. =C2=
=A0What do I need to look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top frame?
Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal =
plates. =C2=A0The webbing is how long and how wide? =C2=A0Ron indicates, I =
interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bow (2) and then the rear bow=
 (3) if I am reading this correctly. =C2=A0Metal plates are a mystery at th=
is point - not sure if I have these or not.

So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH =
which is about 24" long for securing to the top which has Velcro already se=
wn into it?
Thanks again
Joel Martin=20

     On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:16 AM, Ross Hulse <commodoreblues@gma=
il.com> wrote:
  =20

 Joel,
Check youtube=C2=A0for Sunbeam Top Stowage.=C2=A0 It shows how to fold the =
top on a Mark 1A.=C2=A0 And it also shows how to properly attach the top ma=
terial to the body.=C2=A0 Watch the video and you will notice how the cente=
r webbing is attached to the frame.99980 0=C2=A0If you have cables on a Mar=
k 1A top frame you actually have an early Mark 1 frame and that is not corr=
ect. =C2=A0
Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Tom Parker via Tigers <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:

Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on the sides. Look f=
or rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definitely does.
Tom'67 Mark 2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:

Joel=C2=A0Most Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.=
=C2=A0There are 2 tensions cables.Are you sure you need them for a Mk 1A fr=
ame.=C2=A0 My early Mk 1A uses Velcro along the side rails=C2=A0instead of =
the cables.=C2=A0You need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.=C2=A0 =
See TigersUnited.com and look for the Tiger and Alpine=C2=A0Parts List ther=
e.=C2=A0Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows wit=
h metal plates.=C2=A0My cover plates are Machine Gray.=C2=A0Write ups - TE/=
AE web site should have one but not sure.There was a video on the web for f=
olding the top correctly - not sure if it is still there or if I can find i=
t again=C2=A0Ron Fraser=C2=A0=C2=A0
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

  Well, we started on the soft top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.=C2=A0 Would you =
say this is a over engineered, complicated set up?=C2=A0=20
 The tension cable and retainer spring, which I have neither, where does th=
e retaining spring attach to?=C2=A0 The from collar, I believe attached to =
the Peak rail.=C2=A0 Are there 2 tension cable, one on either side?=20
 The peak rail or header rail looks to have a notch in the center with seve=
ral holes to hold something here - what?=C2=A0 The Rootes manual section O =
body does not show anything.=20
 The cover plate, RH and LH, - are they suppose to be machinery grey painte=
d like the frame or chrome as received from SS?=20
 Are there any good write ups with pictures on soft top frame and top insta=
llation?=C2=A0 I have not been able to find anything.=20
 Pictures on the entire top set up would be greatly appreciated.=C2=A0 My l=
ittle 3 stop light town does not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a b=
lender, so going to look is not possible.=20
 Regards=20
 Joel Martin

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440=
078089272_5497"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8525">Thanks for the=
 responses.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span><=
br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_9971">The rootes manual only shows a diagram for th=
e cable tension soft top. &nbsp;What do I need to look for in a Velcro vers=
es cable tension top frame?</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14400780892=
72_5497"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"=
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-size: small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8570" class=3D"">Notch is f=
or webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal plates. &n=
bsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_13137">The webbing is how long and how wi=
de? &nbsp;Ron indicates, I interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bo=
w (2) and then the rear bow (3) if I am reading this correctly. &nbsp;Metal=
 plates are a mystery at this point - not sure if I have these or not.</spa=
n><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D=
"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""><br>=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1440078089272_15044">So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to t=
he 'cantrail' RH and LH which is about 24" long for securing to the top whi=
ch has Velcro already sewn into it?</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
0078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: =
small;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5=
497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" clas=
s=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_15687">Thanks again</span></div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial;=
 font-size: small;" class=3D"">Joel Martin</span></div>  <br><div class=3D"=
qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: =
block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-=
size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"lt=
r"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:16 AM=
, Ross Hulse &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <b=
r><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv9995961879"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>Joel,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>Check youtube&nbsp=
;for Sunbeam Top Stowage.&nbsp; It shows how to fold the top on a Mark 1A.&=
nbsp; And it also shows how to properly attach the top material to the body=
.&nbsp; Watch the video and you will notice how the center webbing is attac=
hed to the frame.99980 0<div>&nbsp;<div>If you have cables on a Mark 1A top=
 frame you actually have an early Mark 1 frame and that is not correct. &nb=
sp;</div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse</div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, =
2015 at 7:47 AM, Tom Parker via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on =
the sides. Look for rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definite=
ly does.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div>'67 Mark 2</div></=
div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879h5">On Wed, A=
ug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv9=
995961879gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879h5"><u></u>

<div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Joel</span></f=
ont></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Most=20
Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.</span></font><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
are 2 tensions cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Are=20
you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.&nbsp; My early Mk 1A uses Velcro =
along=20
the side rails&nbsp;instead of the cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.&nbsp; See TigersUnited.com =
and=20
look for the Tiger and Alpine&nbsp;Parts List there.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Notch=20
is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=20
plates.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>My=20
cover plates are Machine Gray.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Write=20
ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if it is st=
ill=20
there or if I can find it again</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
  <div></div>
  <div align=3D"left" dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounc=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin =
via=20
  Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM<=
br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=20
  <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft=
=20
  Top<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
  <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times=
, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Well, we started on the soft=20
  top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.&nbsp; Would you say this is a over engineered=
,=20
  complicated set up?&nbsp;</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The tension cable and=20
  retainer spring, which I have neither, where does the retaining spring at=
tach=20
  to?&nbsp; The from collar, I believe attached to the Peak rail.&nbsp; Are=
=20
  there 2 tension cable, one on either side?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The peak rail or header rail=20
  looks to have a notch in the center with several holes to hold something =
here=20
  - what?&nbsp; The Rootes manual section O body does not show anything.</d=
iv>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">The cover plate, RH and LH, -=20
  are they suppose to be machinery grey painted like the frame or chrome as=
=20
  received from SS?</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Are there any good write ups=20
  with pictures on soft top frame and top installation?&nbsp; I have not be=
en=20
  able to find anything.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Pictures on the entire top=20
  set up would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; My little 3 stop light town do=
es=20
  not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a blender, so going to look is=
 not=20
  possible.</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">Joel=20
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