Subject: [Tigers] This isn't fun anymore...

From: Stu via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:37:56 -0400

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I took the Tiger out today for a little cruise with my son driving (don=E2=
=80=99t
panic, Hagerty, he=E2=80=99s over 25).  When we got home I noticed that the=
 trunk
was a little out of alignment.  The nut on the fixed part of the right side
hinge was loose.  No problem, tighten it up.  Only it wouldn=E2=80=99t tigh=
ten.  It
feels like the stud is pulling out of the hinge body.  OK, I may have a
spare hinge, if not, I can probably turn one up.

No big deal, right?  But wait, the fun was just starting.

 I was going to drive it back into the garage.  The key was on a few
seconds while I readjusted the seat from my son=E2=80=99s position.  Then i=
t took
longer than normal to start, then smoke came out from under the hood.  Key
off.  There=E2=80=99s a lot of heat coming out=E2=80=A6  I pulled the hood =
release and
could see flames=E2=80=A6   Opening the hood, flames were coming up from th=
e front
of the carb area.  The garden hose was right there, so I gave it a squirt,
cooling everything off, and the flames went out.

 The front of the air cleaner is sort or singed, the element needs an
inspection, the bottom of the hood is black and bubbled right over there,
and there is one huge bubble on the outside of the hood.  Wiring looks OK,
if a bit singed, and the plastic section that joins the choke heater down
pipe to the air cleaner is melted.

After things cooled off, we powered it up again, with the air cleaner off.
The pump was on, but everything was perfect, no fuel coming out anywhere.
It started and ran fine.

So I=E2=80=99m guessing that something is going on in the float bowl, the v=
alve
occasionally sticking open or something.  There had been a couple instances
of brief loss of power, and rough running this summer, so I suspect this is
related.

I cleaned and replaced a lot of stuff in the carb maybe a decade back.
Anybody have any part numbers for rebuild kits that are available today?
What Ford should I tell them I have to get the kit for a stock 260 Tiger
carb?

The fun is going out of this real quick.  Now I=E2=80=99m faced with matchi=
ng the
paint on the hood ( Imron from 1977), or a whole strip and repaint to get
things to match, since there are too many layers of paint on it now.

How was your day?

Stu

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I took the Tiger out today for a little cruise with my =
son
driving (don=E2=80=99t panic, Hagerty, he=E2=80=99s over 25).=C2=A0 When we=
 got home I noticed that the trunk was
a little out of alignment.=C2=A0 The nut on the fixed
part of the right side hinge was loose.=C2=A0
No problem, tighten it up.=C2=A0 Only
it wouldn=E2=80=99t tighten.=C2=A0 It feels like the
stud is pulling out of the hinge body.=C2=A0 OK, I may have a spare hinge, =
if not, I can probably
turn one up.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">No big deal, right?=C2=A0
But wait, the fun was just starting.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0I was going to drive
it back into the garage.=C2=A0 The key was on
a few seconds while I readjusted the seat from my son=E2=80=99s position.=
=C2=A0 Then it=C2=A0took longer than normal to start, then
smoke came out from under the hood.=C2=A0 Key
off.=C2=A0 There=E2=80=99s a lot of heat coming out=E2=80=A6=C2=A0 I pulled=
 the hood release and could see
flames=E2=80=A6=C2=A0=C2=A0 Opening the hood, flames were
coming up from the front of the carb area.=C2=A0
The garden hose was right there, so I gave it a squirt, cooling everything
off, and the flames went out.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0The front of the air
cleaner is sort or singed, the element needs an inspection, the bottom of t=
he
hood is black and bubbled right over there, and there is one huge bubble on=
 the
outside of the hood.=C2=A0 Wiring looks OK, if
a bit singed, and the plastic section that joins the choke heater down pipe=
 to
the air cleaner is melted.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After things cooled off, we powered it up again, wit=
h the
air cleaner off.=C2=A0 The pump was on, but
everything was perfect, no fuel coming out anywhere.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It started=
 and ran fine.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I=E2=80=99m guessing that something is going on i=
n the float bowl,
the valve occasionally sticking open or something.=C2=A0 There had been a c=
ouple instances of brief loss
of power, and rough running this summer, so I suspect this is related.</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I cleaned and replace=
d a lot of stuff in the carb maybe a
decade back.=C2=A0 Anybody have any part
numbers for rebuild kits that are available today?=C2=A0 What Ford should I=
 tell them I have to get
the kit for a stock 260 Tiger carb?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The fun is going out of this real quick.=C2=A0 Now I=
=E2=80=99m faced with matching the paint on the
hood ( Imron from 1977), or a whole strip and repaint to get things to matc=
h,
since there are too many layers of paint on it now.</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">How was your day?</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stu</p></div></div>

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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:04:05 -0400

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Stu
=20
Sorry about your nasty day.
=20
There are maybe 2 rebuild kits available for the Autolite 2bbl.
=20
Napa uses the Carb ID # to determine rebuild kit.
=20
Your stock carb should be a C4DF - N.or S.
=20
Carb ID # is located on the Carb Tag or stamped into the base plate in =
front
of the throttle linkage.
=20
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Stu via
Tigers
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:38 PM
To: Tiger Net
Subject: [Tigers] This isn't fun anymore...

I took the Tiger out today for a little cruise with my son driving =
(don't
panic, Hagerty, he's over 25).  When we got home I noticed that the =
trunk
was a little out of alignment.  The nut on the fixed part of the right =
side
hinge was loose.  No problem, tighten it up.  Only it wouldn't tighten.  =
It
feels like the stud is pulling out of the hinge body.  OK, I may have a
spare hinge, if not, I can probably turn one up.

 I was going to drive it back into the garage.  The key was on a few =
seconds
while I readjusted the seat from my son's position.  Then it took longer
than normal to start, then smoke came out from under the hood.  Key off.
There's a lot of heat coming out.  I pulled the hood release and could =
see
flames.   Opening the hood, flames were coming up from the front of the =
carb
area.  The garden hose was right there, so I gave it a squirt, cooling
everything off, and the flames went out.

 The front of the air cleaner is sort or singed, the element needs an
inspection, the bottom of the hood is black and bubbled right over =
there,
and there is one huge bubble on the outside of the hood.  Wiring looks =
OK,
if a bit singed, and the plastic section that joins the choke heater =
down
pipe to the air cleaner is melted.

After things cooled off, we powered it up again, with the air cleaner =
off.
The pump was on, but everything was perfect, no fuel coming out =
anywhere.
It started and ran fine.

So I'm guessing that something is going on in the float bowl, the valve
occasionally sticking open or something.  There had been a couple =
instances
of brief loss of power, and rough running this summer, so I suspect this =
is
related.

The fun is going out of this real quick.  Now I'm faced with matching =
the
paint on the hood ( Imron from 1977), or a whole strip and repaint to =
get
things to match, since there are too many layers of paint on it now.

How was your day?

Stu

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>Stu</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Sorry=20
about your nasty day.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>There=20
are maybe 2 rebuild kits available&nbsp;for the Autolite=20
2bbl.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Napa=20
uses the Carb ID # to determine rebuild kit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Your=20
stock carb should be a C4DF - N.or S.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Carb=20
ID # is located on the Carb Tag or stamped into the base plate in front =
of the=20
throttle linkage.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D808335802-31082015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stu via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Tiger=20
  Net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] This isn't fun =
anymore...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I took the Tiger out today for a little cruise =
with my son=20
  driving (don&#8217;t panic, Hagerty, he&#8217;s over 25).&nbsp; When =
we got home I noticed=20
  that the trunk was a little out of alignment.&nbsp; The nut on the =
fixed part=20
  of the right side hinge was loose.&nbsp; No problem, tighten it =
up.&nbsp; Only=20
  it wouldn&#8217;t tighten.&nbsp; It feels like the stud is pulling out =
of the hinge=20
  body.&nbsp; OK, I may have a spare hinge, if not, I can probably turn =
one=20
  up.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>No big deal, right?&nbsp; But wait, the fun was =
just=20
  starting.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;I was going to drive it back into the =
garage.&nbsp;=20
  The key was on a few seconds while I readjusted the seat from my =
son&#8217;s=20
  position.&nbsp; Then it&nbsp;took longer than normal to start, then =
smoke came=20
  out from under the hood.&nbsp; Key off.&nbsp; There&#8217;s a lot of =
heat coming=20
  out&#8230;&nbsp; I pulled the hood release and could see =
flames&#8230;&nbsp;&nbsp; Opening=20
  the hood, flames were coming up from the front of the carb area.&nbsp; =
The=20
  garden hose was right there, so I gave it a squirt, cooling everything =
off,=20
  and the flames went out.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;The front of the air cleaner is sort or =
singed, the=20
  element needs an inspection, the bottom of the hood is black and =
bubbled right=20
  over there, and there is one huge bubble on the outside of the =
hood.&nbsp;=20
  Wiring looks OK, if a bit singed, and the plastic section that joins =
the choke=20
  heater down pipe to the air cleaner is melted.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>After things cooled off, we powered it up again, =
with the=20
  air cleaner off.&nbsp; The pump was on, but everything was perfect, no =
fuel=20
  coming out anywhere.&nbsp;&nbsp; It started and ran fine.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>So I&#8217;m guessing that something is going on =
in the float=20
  bowl, the valve occasionally sticking open or something.&nbsp; There =
had been=20
  a couple instances of brief loss of power, and rough running this =
summer, so I=20
  suspect this is related.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I cleaned and replaced a lot of stuff in the carb =
maybe a=20
  decade back.&nbsp; Anybody have any part numbers for rebuild kits that =
are=20
  available today?&nbsp; What Ford should I tell them I have to get the =
kit for=20
  a stock 260 Tiger carb?</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>The fun is going out of this real quick.&nbsp; =
Now I&#8217;m=20
  faced with matching the paint on the hood ( Imron from 1977), or a =
whole strip=20
  and repaint to get things to match, since there are too many layers of =
paint=20
  on it now.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>How was your day?</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><BR></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Stu</P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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