Subject: [Tigers] MG Midget rack and stock steering arms

From: genepadgett--- via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:12:18 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi All, 

I currently have installed Dale A's MG Midget rack and MGB steering arms conversion. I have run this way for several years now and am generally satisfied with everything but the larger turning circle. I am considering keeping the setup I have but going back to the shorter stock steering arms to tighten the turning circle. Is anyone running Dale A's conversion with the stock steering arms? 

If so are you able to use the Alpine tie rod ends from the conversion in the stock Tiger steering arms or is the taper on the bolt shaft different? Other than the fact that Alpine tie rod ends come in LH and RH versions are they the same as Tiger tie rod ends? I have test fitted a Tiger tie rod end on a spare Midget rack and the threads seem to be the same. Of course the inner tie rod shaft on the MG rack is shorter than the Tigers so I still need to use Dale A's adjustable coupler (which is desirable for alignment purposes). 

Do the stock steering arms mount as originally oriented left and right or do you need to flip them from side to side like you do with the MGB steering arms in Dale A's conversion?? 

Any other issues I have not thought of? 

I have measured the lock to lock travel in both the MG rack and the Tiger rack and they are the same. I trealize that the stock steering arms will negate the ackerman angle improvement, such as it is, in Dale A's kit mod. But my thinking is I am no worse off than stock and I like the much quicker lock to lock movement in the MG rack versus stock (2.7 turns vs 3.7?). Steering effort may go up I guess...? 

Thanks in advance for all advice and experiences shared. 

Gene 

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lor: #000000"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hi All,</div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I currently ha=
ve installed Dale A's MG Midget rack and MGB steering arms conversion. &nbs=
p; &nbsp;I have run this way for several years now and am generally satisfi=
ed with everything but the larger turning circle. &nbsp; I am considering k=
eeping the setup I have but going back to the shorter stock steering arms t=
o tighten the turning circle. &nbsp;Is anyone running Dale A's conversion w=
ith the stock steering arms?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></di=
v><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">If so are you able to use the Alpine tie=
 rod ends from the conversion in the stock Tiger steering arms or is the ta=
per on the bolt shaft different? &nbsp; &nbsp;Other than the fact that Alpi=
ne tie rod ends come in LH and RH versions are they the same as Tiger tie r=
od ends? &nbsp; I have test fitted a Tiger tie rod end on a spare Midget ra=
ck and the threads seem to be the same. &nbsp; Of course the inner tie rod =
shaft on the MG rack is shorter than the Tigers so I still need to use Dale=
 A's adjustable coupler (which is desirable for alignment purposes).</div><=
div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">=
Do the stock steering arms mount as originally oriented left and right or d=
o you need to flip them from side to side like you do with the &nbsp;MGB st=
eering arms in Dale A's conversion??</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">=
<br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Any other issues I have not thou=
ght of?</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"=
Compose body">I have measured the lock to lock travel in both the MG rack a=
nd the Tiger rack and they are the same. &nbsp; I trealize that the stock s=
teering arms will negate the ackerman angle improvement, such as it is, in =
Dale A's kit mod. &nbsp;But my thinking is I am no worse off than stock and=
 I like the much quicker lock to lock movement in the MG rack versus stock =
(2.7 turns vs 3.7?). &nbsp; Steering effort may go up I guess...?</div><div=
 aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Tha=
nks in advance for all advice and experiences shared.</div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Gene</div><div=
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From: snakebit289 via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:23:02 +0000 (UTC)

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Hopefully along with feedback from others familiar with your question, you =
may want to get Dale's feedback trying what you hope to do. He should be ba=
ck from the United tomorrow, possibly.
Rande Bellman
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     On Monday, June 22, 2015 11:16 PM, genepadgett--- via Tigers <tigers@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
  =20

 Hi All,
I currently have installed Dale A's MG Midget rack and MGB steering arms co=
nversion. =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have run this way for several years now and am gen=
erally satisfied with everything but the larger turning circle. =C2=A0 I am=
 considering keeping the setup I have but going back to the shorter stock s=
teering arms to tighten the turning circle. =C2=A0Is anyone running Dale A'=
s conversion with the stock steering arms?
If so are you able to use the Alpine tie rod ends from the conversion in th=
e stock Tiger steering arms or is the taper on the bolt shaft different? =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Other than the fact that Alpine tie rod ends come in LH and RH=
 versions are they the same as Tiger tie rod ends? =C2=A0 I have test fitte=
d a Tiger tie rod end on a spare Midget rack and the threads seem to be the=
 same. =C2=A0 Of course the inner tie rod shaft on the MG rack is shorter t=
han the Tigers so I still need to use Dale A's adjustable coupler (which is=
 desirable for alignment purposes).
Do the stock steering arms mount as originally oriented left and right or d=
o you need to flip them from side to side like you do with the =C2=A0MGB st=
eering arms in Dale A's conversion??
Any other issues I have not thought of?
I have measured the lock to lock travel in both the MG rack and the Tiger r=
ack and they are the same. =C2=A0 I trealize that the stock steering arms w=
ill negate the ackerman angle improvement, such as it is, in Dale A's kit m=
od. =C2=A0But my thinking is I am no worse off than stock and I like the mu=
ch quicker lock to lock movement in the MG rack versus stock (2.7 turns vs =
3.7?). =C2=A0 Steering effort may go up I guess...?
Thanks in advance for all advice and experiences shared.
Gene

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lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12px"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hopefully along with feedback from others fa=
miliar with your question, you may want to get Dale's feedback trying what =
you hope to do. He should be back from the United tomorrow, possibly.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rande Bellman<br></div><div><sp=
an></span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=
=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"font-family: Hel=
veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 12px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, =
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D=
"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Monday, June 22, 2015 11:16 PM, =
genepadgett--- via Tigers &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> =
</div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv2443332815"><=
div><div style=3D"font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;=
"><div>Hi All,</div><div><br></div><div>I currently have installed Dale A's=
 MG Midget rack and MGB steering arms conversion. &nbsp; &nbsp;I have run t=
his way for several years now and am generally satisfied with everything bu=
t the larger turning circle. &nbsp; I am considering keeping the setup I ha=
ve but going back to the shorter stock steering arms to tighten the turning=
 circle. &nbsp;Is anyone running Dale A's conversion with the stock steerin=
g arms?</div><div><br></div><div>If so are you able to use the Alpine tie r=
od ends from the conversion in the stock Tiger steering arms or is the tape=
r on the bolt shaft different? &nbsp; &nbsp;Other than the fact that Alpine=
 tie rod ends come in LH and RH versions are they the same as Tiger tie rod=
 ends? &nbsp; I have test fitted a Tiger tie rod end on a spare Midget rack=
 and the threads seem to be the same. &nbsp; Of course the inner tie rod sh=
aft on the MG rack is shorter than the Tigers so I still need to use Dale A=
's adjustable coupler (which is desirable for alignment purposes).</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Do the stock steering arms mount as originally oriented le=
ft and right or do you need to flip them from side to side like you do with=
 the &nbsp;MGB steering arms in Dale A's conversion??</div><div><br></div><=
div>Any other issues I have not thought of?</div><div><br></div><div>I have=
 measured the lock to lock travel in both the MG rack and the Tiger rack an=
d they are the same. &nbsp; I trealize that the stock steering arms will ne=
gate the ackerman angle improvement, such as it is, in Dale A's kit mod. &n=
bsp;But my thinking is I am no worse off than stock and I like the much qui=
cker lock to lock movement in the MG rack versus stock (2.7 turns vs 3.7?).=
 &nbsp; Steering effort may go up I guess...?</div><div><br></div><div>Than=
ks in advance for all advice and experiences shared.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Gene</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></=
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