Subject: [Tigers] Alternator bracket

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:18:41 -0400

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I sent this earlier but I did not see it come back to me on the list.

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Here is a note from David Franchi about the alternator bracket.

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Ron Fraser

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>From David Franchi     9/13/11

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Just got a chance to read the posts on the generator bracket.

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The "early" Jan. 1967 Tiger parts book shows the same Ford part numbers =
and
car serial ranges as the Jan 1965 book. There are two versions of the =
Jan.
1967 Tiger parts book, early and later. The first version has all the =
Ford
part numbers, the 2nd version doesn't, the 2nd version doesn't say =
revised
etc. it is identical but doesn't have the Ford numbers.

=20

The early Jan 1967 book also shows the MKII alternator bracket: Rootes #
6100742 with Ford # C5JZ-10151-B. The MKII bracket has C5JZ-10151-B cast
into it along with 8M  and a weak 3 or B NO. I have attached pictures of =
the
MKII.

=20

Back to the MKI bracket, the little 1/4" threaded boss on the bracket =
was
originally for the oil filler tube which was on the timing gear cover on
early Fords.

=20

David Franchi

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http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/23401185/398462195.jpg

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http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/23401185/398462196.jpg

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got a chance to read the posts on the generator =
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"early" Jan. 1967 Tiger parts book shows the same Ford part numbers and =
car=20
serial ranges as the Jan 1965 book. There are two versions of the Jan. =
1967=20
Tiger parts book, early and later. The first version has all the Ford =
part=20
numbers, the 2nd version doesn't, the 2nd version doesn't say revised =
etc. it is=20
identical but doesn't have the Ford numbers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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10pt">The=20
early Jan 1967 book also shows the MKII alternator bracket: Rootes # =
6100742=20
with Ford # C5JZ-10151-B. The MKII bracket has C5JZ-10151-B cast into it =
along=20
with 8M<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>and a weak 3 or B =
NO. I=20
have attached pictures of the MKII.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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to the MKI bracket, the little 1/4" threaded boss on the bracket was =
originally=20
for the oil filler tube which was on the </SPAN><st1:PersonName><SPAN=20
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From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:51:44 -0400

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I received this email but I got an email failure when I replied - =
strange
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I'll try this way to the Tiger List for my reply.
=20
=20
mayf
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    The dip stick tube has an attached bracket that mounts with one of =
the
generator or alternator bracket bolt and is pressed into the timing =
cover.
=20
The 1/4 - 20 hole was use by Ford to hold the oil filler tube on the pre
1964 engines; on the Tiger engine that boss holds a clip for a heater =
hose
from the water pump.
=20
=20
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Mayfield [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:00 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Alternator bracket

Hmmm,I thought that =BC - 20 thread hole in the bracket was of holding =
the dip
stick tube in place. It is only pressed in at the bottom of the timing
cover. I do not have my original dip stick now a days so my foggy memory =
is
suspect..

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mayf

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size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The dip stick tube has an attached bracket =
that=20
mount<SPAN class=3D468014703-30062015>s</SPAN> with one of the generator =
or=20
alternator bracket bolt and is pressed into the timing=20
cover.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial>The=20
1/4 - 20 hole was use by Ford to hold the oil filler tube on the pre =
1964=20
engines; on the Tiger engine that boss hold<SPAN=20
class=3D468014703-30062015>s</SPAN> a clip for&nbsp;<SPAN=20
class=3D468014703-30062015>a</SPAN> heater hose from the water=20
pump.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
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  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Larry =
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  [mailto:[email-masked]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 29, 2015 =
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From: Tod Brown via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:00:31 -0400

Thanks to all who replied regarding my inquiry about the alternator bracket.
Good information, as always.

I also have noted that Paul Resientz at http://www.reisentzrestorations.com/
lists a bracket for $160 which looks pretty authentic, judging from the 
photos
on the site.

Has anyone ever seen one anywhere but on a Tiger?

Cheers,

Tod
B382002384LRXFE
TAC 864

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