Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Part Advice Engine Parts

From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 20:28:43 -0400

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Bill
    Your Ford part number should get you to the part you need. =
C2OZ-6754-A
for the dip stick tube.   I believe Scott Drake is making the dip stick =
tube
- NPD probably carries it.
=20
Your harmonic balancer is probably OK - most of them look like that.  =
The
only way to tell if it is bad is to line up TDC on piston 1 and see =
where
the timing mark lines up - 0 is ok anything else means the parts have
shifted.        I believe they are being reproduced or you could send =
out to
be repaired.   I believe there is a shop out west that does that work.
=20
All bolts are 12-15 ft/ lbs torque - use sealer on the gaskets both =
sides -
put sealer on the bolt threads and Never seize on the bolt shafts.
=20
This is a good time to check the timing gears and chain - it they need
replacement your right there.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bill
Lawrence via Tigers
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:06 PM
To: sunbeam tiger
Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Part Advice Engine Parts

Greetings Tigers,

Finally dug in on changing a slowly leaking water pump on my 65 Sunbeam
Tiger.  The plan was to retire the original radiator at the same time.  =
The
original radiator seems to be in remarkably good shape after 50 years =
thanks
in part to an inline gano filter. I decided to invest in the direct
replacement Griffin aluminum from Summit and shrink wrap the original =
rad,
saving it for another day.  The Aluminum water pump from Sunbeam
Specialities and all new hoses plus a new belt are ready to go.

I ended up successfully removing the fan, shroud, radiator, all water =
pump
bolts except for one that secures through timing cover.  Naturally it
snapped in half. Trying to ease it out put up a fight so off comes the
pulley and then the harmonic balancer and eventually with a little
persussion the timing cover.  The remaining bolt section was removed by =
hand
- ugh. Unfortunately, there were a few casualties along the way. =20

The dip stick probably had a split tube and it broke where it enters the
timing cover.  As far as I can tell Ford PN   C2OZ 6754 A*  62-65  DIP =
STICK
TUBE W/GENERATOR V8  or from the Rootes supplemental PN C20Z-67s4-A =
would be
a Ford original part number.=20

The harmonic balancer (once again from the rootes supplemental pn
C40Z-6316-A) has that Knackered look with a lot of cracks in the rubber
(this was replaced last century around 1992).

For what it's worth, I ordered a timing cover gasket kit (Felpro) from =
Rock
Auto. It includes a pan front seal and little corner gaskets so I =
hopefully
won't have to drop the pan to seal her up.

So, I am looking for some quality replacements for the dipstick tube and =
a
harmonic balancer.

Would anyone have information on suitable stock type replacements, part
numbers, cross reference parts from other models such as the Ford =
Fairlane
or any other advice (such as timing cover/h2o pump bolt torque numbers)
putting the front end of my engine and the cooling system back together?

Once again, thanks for all the great Tiger list info.

Sincerely,

Bill Lawrence
B9473246LRX
Ft. Lauderdale FLA USA=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015>Bill</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Your Ford part number =
should get you=20
to the part you need.&nbsp;C2OZ-6754-A for the dip stick tube.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;I=20
believe Scott Drake is making the dip stick tube - NPD probably carries=20
it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D984480300-05042015>Your=20
harmonic balancer is probably OK - most of them look like that.&nbsp; =
The only=20
way to tell if it is bad is to line up TDC on piston 1 and see where the =
timing=20
mark lines up - 0 is ok anything else means the parts have=20
shifted.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D984480300-05042015>I =
believe they=20
are being reproduced or you could send out to be repaired.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
believe=20
there is a shop out west that does that work.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D984480300-05042015>All=20
bolts are 12-15 ft/ lbs torque - use sealer on the gaskets both=20
sides&nbsp;-&nbsp; put sealer on the bolt threads and Never seize on the =
bolt=20
shafts.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D984480300-05042015>This=20
is a good time to check the timing gears and chain - it they need =
replacement=20
your right there.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D984480300-05042015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D984480300-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us class=3DOutlookMessageHeader =
align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill =
Lawrence via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
sunbeam=20
  tiger<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Tigers Part Advice Engine=20
  Parts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Greetings Tigers,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Finally dug in on changing a slowly leaking water =
pump on my=20
  65 Sunbeam Tiger. &nbsp;The plan was to retire the original radiator =
at the=20
  same time. &nbsp;The original radiator seems to be in remarkably good =
shape=20
  after 50 years thanks in part to an inline gano filter. I decided to =
invest in=20
  the direct replacement Griffin aluminum from Summit and shrink wrap =
the=20
  original rad, saving it for another day. &nbsp;The Aluminum water pump =
from=20
  Sunbeam Specialities and all new hoses plus a new belt are ready to=20
  go.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
  face=3DArial></FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>I ended up successfully removing the fan, shroud, =
radiator,=20
  all water pump bolts except for one that secures through timing cover. =

  &nbsp;Naturally it snapped in half. Trying to ease it out put up a =
fight so=20
  off comes the pulley and then the harmonic balancer and eventually =
with a=20
  little persussion the timing cover. &nbsp;The remaining bolt section =
was=20
  removed by hand - ugh. Unfortunately, there were a few casualties =
along the=20
  way. &nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>The dip stick probably had a split&nbsp;<FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">tube and it broke where it enters the =
timing cover.=20
  &nbsp;A</FONT></FONT><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">s far as I =
can tell=20
  Ford PN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;C2OZ 6754 A* &nbsp;62-65&nbsp;&nbsp;DIP STICK =
TUBE=20
  W/GENERATOR V8 &nbsp;or from the Rootes supplemental =
PN&nbsp;C20Z-67s4-A would=20
  be a Ford original part number.</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif">The harmonic=20
  balancer (once again from the rootes supplemental pn =
C</FONT></FONT><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">40Z-6316-A</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">)&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">has that =
Knackered=20
  look with a lot of cracks in the rubber (this was replaced last =
century around=20
  1992).</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">For what=20
  it's worth, I ordered a timing cover gasket kit (Felpro) from Rock =
Auto. It=20
  includes a pan front seal and little corner gaskets so I hopefully =
won't have=20
  to drop the pan to seal her up.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">So, I am=20
  looking for some quality replacements for the dipstick tube and a =
harmonic=20
  balancer.</SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">Would anyone have =
information=20
  on suitable stock type replacements, part numbers, cross reference =
parts from=20
  other models such as the Ford Fairlane or any other advice (such as =
timing=20
  cover/h2o pump bolt torque numbers) putting the front end of my engine =
and the=20
  cooling system back together?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">Once again, =
thanks for all=20
  the great Tiger list info.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">Sincerely,</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">Bill=20
  Lawrence</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">B9473246LRX</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, sans-serif">Ft. Lauderdale =
FLA=20
  USA&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Arial, =
sans-serif"><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial, =
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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 09:28:28 -0400

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Bill=20
    I'll clarify one point - C2OZ-6754-A dip stick tube is 15.83" long.
Most of  the Mustang catalogs list it; some by length, some by 64 260 =
with
generator.
=20
Ron Fraser

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Greetings Tigers,

Sincerely,

Bill Lawrence
B9473246LRX

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</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D531332313-05042015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll clarify one point - =
C2OZ-6754-A=20
dip stick tube is 15.83" long.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Most of&nbsp; the =
Mustang=20
catalogs list it; some by length, some by 64 260 with=20
generator.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D531332313-05042015></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN =
class=3D531332313-05042015>Ron=20
Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill =
Lawrence via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 04, 2015 5:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
sunbeam=20
  tiger<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Tigers Part Advice Engine=20
  Parts<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Greetings Tigers,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Finally dug in on changing a slowly leaking water =
pump on my=20
  65 Sunbeam Tiger. &nbsp;The plan was to retire the original radiator =
at the=20
  same time. &nbsp;The original radiator seems to be in remarkably good =
shape=20
  after 50 years thanks in part to an inline gano filter. I decided to =
invest in=20
  the direct replacement Griffin aluminum from Summit and shrink wrap =
the=20
  original rad, saving it for another day. &nbsp;The Aluminum water pump =
from=20
  Sunbeam Specialities and all new hoses plus a new belt are ready to=20
  go.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>I ended up successfully removing the fan, shroud, =
radiator,=20
  all water pump bolts except for one that secures through timing cover. =

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