Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU AUD 136t carbs

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:34:42 -0400

Hi Mike,

I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on some carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The HS2's are all pretty similar and any will work no matter what the AUD number.  Worn throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by simply replacing the throttle shaft.  The carb body itself does not wear out, only the shaft.  So no worries about installing bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares in England for considerably less than what the guys here in the US sell them for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very complete with new throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc.  Shipping is very fast and not too expensive.  They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff ordered from them usually arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days when ordering from Moss.

Rick

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>   So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1098 junkyard motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on Ebay that looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours later the seller said he didn't have them, that was a old listing that Ebay had put back up accidentally.
> 
>  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one saying many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong with a set a carbs i got from a friend, everything stuck and too badly corroded to ever work again...major pits in venturi area by the butterflies on one and pistons on both...way too bad for a rebuild.
> 
>  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc motor but they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what will and will not work, they all kind of look the same to me, I just know my motor had AUD 136t's originally.
> 
>  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing frozen and a decent throttle shaft since I don't have the ability to ream and put bushings in (although i know there are o-ring shafts now that may solve that problem).
> 
>  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits, it does not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is correct for 1098, this is not a show car, I just want a good driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$ and there is a advantage to that since I would not need to buy a rebuild kit.
> 
>      Mike
> 
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:09:57 -0500

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For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03 AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on some car=
b
> info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The HS2's are all pretty
> similar and any will work no matter what the AUD number.  Worn throttle
> shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by simply replacing the throttle
> shaft.  The carb body itself does not wear out, only the shaft.  So no
> worries about installing bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpar=
es
> in England for considerably less than what the guys here in the US sell
> them for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very complete with new
> throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc.  Shipping is very fast and not too
> expensive.  They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff ordered from them
> usually arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days when ordering from
> Moss.
>
> Rick
>
> > =EF=BB=BF  So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1098 ju=
nkyard
> motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on Ebay that looked ok in
> pictures and bought them, a few hours later the seller said he didn't hav=
e
> them, that was a old listing that Ebay had put back up accidentally.
> >
> >  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one saying many
> moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong with a set a carbs =
i
> got from a friend, everything stuck and too badly corroded to ever work
> again...major pits in venturi area by the butterflies on one and pistons =
on
> both...way too bad for a rebuild.
> >
> >  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc motor but
> they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what will and will not work, they
> all kind of look the same to me, I just know my motor had AUD 136t's
> originally.
> >
> >  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing frozen and =
a
> decent throttle shaft since I don't have the ability to ream and put
> bushings in (although i know there are o-ring shafts now that may solve
> that problem).
> >
> >  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits, it does
> not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is correct for 1098, th=
is
> is not a show car, I just want a good driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has
> new ones...yike$ and there is a advantage to that since I would not need =
to
> buy a rebuild kit.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03 AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on some c=
arb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.=C2=A0 The HS2&#39;s are all=
 pretty similar and any will work no matter what the AUD number.=C2=A0 Worn=
 throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by simply replacing the throt=
tle shaft.=C2=A0 The carb body itself does not wear out, only the shaft.=C2=
=A0 So no worries about installing bushings.=C2=A0 I buy carb rebuild kits =
from MiniSpares in England for considerably less than what the guys here in=
 the US sell them for.=C2=A0 The kits genuine SU parts and are very complet=
e with new throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc.=C2=A0 Shipping is very fa=
st and not too expensive.=C2=A0 They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff=
 ordered from them usually arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days wh=
en ordering from Moss.<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
&gt; On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BF=C2=A0 So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1=
098 junkyard motor that came with no carbs.=C2=A0 I found some on Ebay that=
 looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours later the seller said h=
e didn&#39;t have them, that was a old listing that Ebay had put back up ac=
cidentally.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one sayin=
g many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong with a set a c=
arbs i got from a friend, everything stuck and too badly corroded to ever w=
ork again...major pits in venturi area by the butterflies on one and piston=
s on both...way too bad for a rebuild.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc mot=
or but they are not AUD 136&#39;s so I am not sure what will and will not w=
ork, they all kind of look the same to me, I just know my motor had AUD 136=
t&#39;s originally.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing froze=
n and a decent throttle shaft since I don&#39;t have the ability to ream an=
d put bushings in (although i know there are o-ring shafts now that may sol=
ve that problem).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits, it=
 does not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is correct for 1098=
, this is not a show car, I just want a good driver.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I have see=
n that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$ and there is a advantage to that since I w=
ould not need to buy a rebuild kit.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mike<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -- <br>
&gt; A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don&#39;t have it,<br>
&gt; you&#39;ll probably never need one again.<br>
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 14:57:49 +0000

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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:12:57 -0700

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Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.  No balancing carbs.
Mike MacLean

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 8:09 AM Charles Reel via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I second the thought. Single HIF
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Derf via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
> =EF=BB=BF
>> I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on some
>> carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The HS2's are all pret=
ty
>> worries about installing bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpa=
res
>> throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc.  Shipping is very fast and not to=
o
>> expensive.  They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff ordered from the=
m
>> > =EF=BB=BF  So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1098 j=
unkyard
>> pictures and bought them, a few hours later the seller said he didn't ha=
ve
>> >  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one saying man=
y
>> moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong with a set a carbs=
 i
>> again...major pits in venturi area by the butterflies on one and pistons=
 on
>> >  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc motor bu=
t
>> they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what will and will not work, the=
y
>> >  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing frozen and
>> a decent throttle shaft since I don't have the ability to ream and put
>> not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is correct for 1098, t=
his
>> is not a show car, I just want a good driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ ha=
s
>> new ones...yike$ and there is a advantage to that since I would not need=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.=C2=A0 No b=
alancing carbs.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022, 8:=
09 AM Charles Reel via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"auto">
I second the thought. Single HIF<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Derf via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03 AM Rick =
Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on some c=
arb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.=C2=A0 The HS2&#39;s are all=
 pretty similar and any will work no matter what the AUD number.=C2=A0 Worn=
 throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by simply
 replacing the throttle shaft.=C2=A0 The carb body itself does not wear out=
, only the shaft.=C2=A0 So no worries about installing bushings.=C2=A0 I bu=
y carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares in England for considerably less than w=
hat the guys here in the US sell them for.=C2=A0 The
 kits genuine SU parts and are very complete with new throttle shafts, thro=
ttle plates, etc.=C2=A0 Shipping is very fast and not too expensive.=C2=A0 =
They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff ordered from them usually arriv=
es in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days when
 ordering from Moss.<br>
<br>
Rick<br>
<br>
&gt; On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">spri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BF=C2=A0 So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1=
098 junkyard motor that came with no carbs.=C2=A0 I found some on Ebay that=
 looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours later the seller said h=
e didn&#39;t have them, that was a old listing that Ebay
 had put back up accidentally.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one sayin=
g many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong with a set a c=
arbs i got from a friend, everything stuck and too badly corroded to ever w=
ork again...major pits in venturi area by
 the butterflies on one and pistons on both...way too bad for a rebuild.<br=
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc mot=
or but they are not AUD 136&#39;s so I am not sure what will and will not w=
ork, they all kind of look the same to me, I just know my motor had AUD 136=
t&#39;s originally.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing froze=
n and a decent throttle shaft since I don&#39;t have the ability to ream an=
d put bushings in (although i know there are o-ring shafts now that may sol=
ve that problem).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits, it=
 does not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is correct for 1098=
, this is not a show car, I just want a good driver.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I have see=
n that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$ and there is a advantage
 to that since I would not need to buy a rebuild kit.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mike<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -- <br>
&gt; A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don&#39;t have it,<br>
&gt; you&#39;ll probably never need one again.<br>
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From: Mike Rambour via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:50:50 -0700

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   I agree that a single HIF is probably the best way to go BUT this is 
not going into a Spridget or Mini and I just don't have the clearance.

  I tried the HIF that we took off my son-in-law's MkI Mini that has a 
1275 in it and no there was no room on the side for it.  People in the 
UK that have done this engine swap have said, there is barely enough 
room for some pancake filters and others have said you have to use what 
I call the little rock guard that is not really a filter.  I have cut 
the engines front plate to move the engine over as far as I can and 
center it in the chassis and also keep the driveshaft pretty straight,  
but it will still be tight.
  My Son-in-law's twin SU's from his Mini look like they will fit, I am 
still "fiddling" with the body and engine mounts so have some play 
room.  With a HIF I will have to bump out the hood sides right where 
there are some louvers.

  Its all going into a 1934 Singer Le Mans.  This is engine swap that 
while not common, has been done quite a bit in the UK.

     mike

   On 9/13/2022 7:09 AM, Derf wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03 AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Mike,
>
>     I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on
>     some carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The HS2's
>     are all pretty similar and any will work no matter what the AUD
>     number.  Worn throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by
>     simply replacing the throttle shaft.  The carb body itself does
>     not wear out, only the shaft.  So no worries about installing
>     bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares in England for
>     considerably less than what the guys here in the US sell them
>     for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very complete with new
>     throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc. Shipping is very fast and
>     not too expensive.  They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff
>     ordered from them usually arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10
>     days when ordering from Moss.
>
>     Rick
>
>     >   So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1098
>     junkyard motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on Ebay that
>     looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours later the
>     seller said he didn't have them, that was a old listing that Ebay
>     had put back up accidentally.
>     >
>     >  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one
>     saying many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong
>     with a set a carbs i got from a friend, everything stuck and too
>     badly corroded to ever work again...major pits in venturi area by
>     the butterflies on one and pistons on both...way too bad for a
>     rebuild.
>     >
>     >  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc
>     motor but they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what will and
>     will not work, they all kind of look the same to me, I just know
>     my motor had AUD 136t's originally.
>     >
>     >  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing
>     frozen and a decent throttle shaft since I don't have the ability
>     to ream and put bushings in (although i know there are o-ring
>     shafts now that may solve that problem).
>     >
>     >  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits,
>     it does not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is
>     correct for 1098, this is not a show car, I just want a good
>     driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$ and there is
>     a advantage to that since I would not need to buy a rebuild kit.
>     >
>     >      Mike
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">  I agree that a single HIF is probably
      the best way to go BUT this is not going into a Spridget or Mini
      and I just don't have the clearance.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I tried the HIF that we took off my
      son-in-law's MkI Mini that has a 1275 in it and no there was no
      room on the side for it.  People in the UK that have done this
      engine swap have said, there is barely enough room for some
      pancake filters and others have said you have to use what I call
      the little rock guard that is not really a filter.  I have cut the
      engines front plate to move the engine over as far as I can and
      center it in the chassis and also keep the driveshaft pretty
      straight,  but it will still be tight.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> My Son-in-law's twin SU's from his
      Mini look like they will fit, I am still "fiddling" with the body
      and engine mounts so have some play room.  With a HIF I will have
      to bump out the hood sides right where there are some louvers.  <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> Its all going into a 1934 Singer Le
      Mans.  This is engine swap that while not common, has been done
      quite a bit in the UK.<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    mike<br>
    </div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">  On 9/13/2022 7:09 AM, Derf wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.  </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03
          AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi
          Mike,<br>
          <br>
          I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass
          on some carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The
          HS2's are all pretty similar and any will work no matter what
          the AUD number.  Worn throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the
          time by simply replacing the throttle shaft.  The carb body
          itself does not wear out, only the shaft.  So no worries about
          installing bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares
          in England for considerably less than what the guys here in
          the US sell them for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very
          complete with new throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc. 
          Shipping is very fast and not too expensive.  They use DHL
          Express for shipping and stuff ordered from them usually
          arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days when ordering
          from Moss.<br>
          <br>
          Rick<br>
          <br>
          &gt; On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets
          &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;   So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my
          1098 junkyard motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on
          Ebay that looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours
          later the seller said he didn't have them, that was a old
          listing that Ebay had put back up accidentally.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and
          one saying many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what
          was wrong with a set a carbs i got from a friend, everything
          stuck and too badly corroded to ever work again...major pits
          in venturi area by the butterflies on one and pistons on
          both...way too bad for a rebuild.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a
          1098cc motor but they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what
          will and will not work, they all kind of look the same to me,
          I just know my motor had AUD 136t's originally.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with
          nothing frozen and a decent throttle shaft since I don't have
          the ability to ream and put bushings in (although i know there
          are o-ring shafts now that may solve that problem).<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it
          fits, it does not have the port for the PCV valve which I
          think is correct for 1098, this is not a show car, I just want
          a good driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$
          and there is a advantage to that since I would not need to buy
          a rebuild kit.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;      Mike<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; -- <br>
          &gt; A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have
          it,<br>
          &gt; you'll probably never need one again.<br>
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But then you can’t have the two chrome air cleaners. That’s a pretty big tradeoff!
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If you use the 1098 style HS-2’s, you’ll need a place to mount the flying saucer PCV valve. The later HS-2’s will have brass tubes to connect the vent hoses..  If you don’t have a place to mount the PCV valve, you might want to use the later carbs. Just get rid of the poppit valves on the butterflies. You’ll have to manage to either run the hose from your tappet cover, around the header, to the Y connector, or just run a 1275 timing cover. 
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a 52ish through 55ish  Singer 4AD

that car has been there forever it seems, I might have to go listen to 
you someday :)

     mike

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> I usually only see a Singer when we play at the Coach House San Juan 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">a 52ish through 55ish  Singer 4AD <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">that car has been there forever it
      seems, I might have to go listen to you someday :)</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    mike</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2022 9:19 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:<br>
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I remember the Mini application intakes had a different angle than the
Spridget intakes.

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> But then you can=E2=80=99t have the two chrome air cleaners. That=E2=80=
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te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:24 AM =
Billy Zoom via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sp=
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uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">But then you can=E2=80=99t have the two chrome air cl=
eaners. That=E2=80=99s a pretty big tradeoff!<br>
&gt; Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.=C2=A0 No balancing carb=
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&gt; Mike MacLean<br>
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Really good points, I had not gotten that far yet.  I have 2 intake 
manifolds, one is I assume pretty early and has no ports for a PVC and 
the other has a PVC nipple but its broken off inside the manifold, I was 
going to try and remove it, its been soaking in Kroil a few weeks now.  
If it not budge with a easy-out I will cut it out and try really hard to 
not damage the threads.   Doing a engine swap is all new to me, I 
started this swap when i could not get a correct motor a good 10+ years 
ago but life got in the way, now I am on it until finished.

     mike

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   That I knew, I do not what the difference is but I knew the 2 
manifolds are different angles.

  I only assume that the one on the Mini is correct for his Mini and the 
manifold I have for my 1098 is correct for my car.

     mike

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      difference is but I knew the 2 manifolds are different angles.  <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I only assume that the one on the Mini
      is correct for his Mini and the manifold I have for my 1098 is
      correct for my car.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    mike</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2022 9:41 AM, Derf via
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      <div dir="ltr">I remember the Mini application intakes had a
        different angle than the Spridget intakes.  </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:24
          AM Billy Zoom via Spridgets &lt;<a
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But
          then you can’t have the two chrome air cleaners. That’s a
          pretty big tradeoff!<br>
          &gt; Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.  No
          balancing carbs.<br>
          &gt; Mike MacLean<br>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The intake manifold for a Mini is kicked up=
 at a higher angle than that for a Spridget in order for the bottom of the j=
et tubes on HS2=E2=80=99s to clear the bulkhead.<div><br></div><div>Howard C=
ollins&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:45 PM, Mike Rambour v=
ia Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp; That I knew, I do not what the
      difference is but I knew the 2 manifolds are different angles.&nbsp; <=
br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;I only assume that the one on the M=
ini
      is correct for his Mini and the manifold I have for my 1098 is
      correct for my car.</div>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mike</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2022 9:41 AM, Derf via
      Spridgets wrote:<br>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">I remember the Mini application intakes had a
        different angle than the Spridget intakes.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
      <br>
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:24
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">But=

          then you can=E2=80=99t have the two chrome air cleaners. That=E2=80=
=99s a
          pretty big tradeoff!<br>
          &gt; Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.&nbsp; No
          balancing carbs.<br>
          &gt; Mike MacLean<br>
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Yes, IIRC the angle keeps the Mini manifold from working under a Spridget
bonnet.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:58 PM Mike Rambour via Spridgets <
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>   That I knew, I do not what the difference is but I knew the 2 manifolds
> are different angles.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, IIRC the angle keeps the Mini manifold from working u=
nder a Spridget bonnet.<div>=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:58 PM Mi=
ke Rambour via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sp=
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      difference is but I knew the 2 manifolds are different angles.=C2=A0 =
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    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>=C2=A0I only assume that the one on the Mini
      is correct for his Mini and the manifold I have for my 1098 is
      correct for my car.</div>
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    <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mike</div>
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">I remember the Mini application intakes had a
        different angle than the Spridget intakes.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
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          then you can=E2=80=99t have the two chrome air cleaners. That=E2=
=80=99s a
          pretty big tradeoff!<br>
          &gt; Single HIF44 on my 1275 in my Bugeye. Love it.=C2=A0 No
          balancing carbs.<br>
          &gt; Mike MacLean<br>
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From: Mike Rambour via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 16:32:35 -0700

So I played with the Mini's manifold last night and it certainly is a 
different angle, not that noticeable when on the motor but noticeable 
when off the motor.  Don't worry, the Mini is not yet running, 
son-in-law won't notice I played with his cars parts. Heck, I am 
assembling the motor anyway, we hope to put it in the car in week and 
half over the weekend but i still have to put in new brake lines, new 
fuel lines and some stuff like wiring before that weekend.  The car was 
stripped to bare shell for de-rusting/welding and finally painting.

  So, I am convinced, i have the right/correct intake manifold for my 
1098.  Now I just need Carbs :)  There are some on Ebay that are not AUD 
136 that based on comments yesterday will work if I re-jet them or 
change minor stuff.  One says some jets are stuck, which worries me, the 
others look like they sand blasted everything and then put new parts 
in.  I might wait a week and see what pops up on ebay but any other 
places you know of that I can look or ask, before I make last call :)

  With the exception of my own forum for Singer's, I tend to avoid 
forums, I am too old for that stuff and prefer e-mail and groups like 
this, any forum i should join and check out the for sale section ?

     mike

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