Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!

From: Kent McLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 05:59:25 -0400

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Weslake1330 wrote:
> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate

Correct. Also called a license plate.

> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it

It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various =
by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That =
plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in =
the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an =
excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a =
city tax. Taxation with representation.

> or that it has passed annual inspection? =20

That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states =
require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an =
emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. =
YMMV depending on where you live.

The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. =
:)

Kent=20
'56 100
'60 Sprite

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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: Palatino-Roman;" =
class=3D"">Weslake1330</span>&nbsp;wrote:<div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">So the tag is =
what I'd call&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Correct. Also called a license plate.</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">and each year =
you have to pay the government ('the man'?)</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">for a sticker =
that says you are paying something like road tax on it =
</span></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>It goes by =
various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by state =
and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate does =
not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate =
and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise =
tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. =
Taxation with representation.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">or&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">that it has passed annual inspection? =
&nbsp;</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">That =
is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require =
an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an emissions =
test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV =
depending on where you live.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The US and Great Britain, two countries =
separated by &nbsp;common language. :)</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Kent&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">'56 =
100</div><div class=3D"">'60 Sprite</div><div class=3D""><br =
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 13:37:25 -0400

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Hi Daniel.

A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-) =20

In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life, as=
 long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in anothe=
r state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays with the=
 car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new t=
itle and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.  In Michigan w=
here I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from ca=
r to car.  You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.  The=
 plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of year=
s because they deteriorate in our weather.

Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California is=
 one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I lived=
 in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could liter=
ally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had regular=
 smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside because j=
ust breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a=
 day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our pollution blow ove=
r to Canada and New York. =20

Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them some=
 don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the s=
ame accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are r=
eally nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be able to pro=
ve that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than providing an i=
ncome source for the state and the inspection station operators.

One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate on t=
he front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only require a p=
late on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to l=
eave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone back away from the sc=
ene of a crime? =20

Rick

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFWeslake1330 wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by=
 state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate doe=
s not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate and=
 the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax, so t=
hey can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation with=
 representation.
>=20
>=20
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states requi=
re an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an emissions t=
est. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending=
 on where you live.
>=20
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
>=20
> Kent=20
> '56 100
> '60 Sprite
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little misinformation in some of the answ=
ers so far. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life, a=
s long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in anoth=
er state. &nbsp;California is one state for example where the plate stays wi=
th the car for it's entire life. &nbsp; If a used car is sold the new owner g=
ets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used. &n=
bsp;In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets tr=
ansferred from car to car. &nbsp;You can also get a new license plate here w=
henever you want. &nbsp;The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state aft=
er a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Many states have inspections for e=
missions control equipment. &nbsp;California is one such state, and while ca=
r guys hate smog devices they do work. &nbsp;I lived in California back in t=
he sixties and I remember times when you could literally not see three block=
s down the road because of the smog. &nbsp;We had regular smog alerts when t=
he kids at school were not allowed to go outside because just breathing the a=
ir was the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. &nbsp;Michig=
an has no smog inspections. &nbsp;We just let our pollution blow over to Can=
ada and New York. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sa=
fety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them some d=
on't. &nbsp;However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have th=
e same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they a=
re really nothing but a money grab by the state. &nbsp;No one seems to be ab=
le to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than prov=
iding an income source for the state and the inspection station operators.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one has m=
entioned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of the ca=
r while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear. &nbsp;Th=
e plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scene of an=
 incident. &nbsp;How often does someone back away from the scene of a crime?=
 &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean v=
ia Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"C=
ontent-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily: Palatino-Roman;" class=3D"">Weslake1330</span>&nbsp;wrote:<div><block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=
=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman;=
 font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight=
: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-=
transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke=
-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;=
" class=3D"">So the tag is what I'd call&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"caret-co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: nor=
mal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:=
 normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:=
 none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">the number plate=
 </span></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Correct. Also call=
ed a license plate.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""=
><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Pala=
tino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !i=
mportant;" class=3D"">and each year you have to pay the government ('the man=
'?)</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roma=
n; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stro=
ke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color=
: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal=
; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: no=
rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: no=
ne; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">for a sticker that s=
ays you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blockquote><=
div><br class=3D""></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registratio=
n (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your n=
umber plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car=
, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also=
 charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also add=
s a city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font=
-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-ali=
gn: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word=
-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float:=
 none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">or&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; fo=
nt-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spa=
cing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; whi=
te-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-de=
coration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">that it=
 has passed annual inspection? &nbsp;</span></div></blockquote></div><br cla=
ss=3D""><div class=3D"">That is separate from your license plate. Like your M=
OT, some states require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also r=
equire an emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions=
 test. YMMV depending on where you live.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""=
></div><div class=3D"">The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by &=
nbsp;common language. :)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D"">Kent&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">'56 100</div><div class=3D"">'60 Spri=
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:43:59 -0700

The USA is a federation if individual states, and each state makes it’s own laws regarding motor vehicles. 
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Hi Daniel,

Some more info.

There is no real open market on low-digit or specialty numbers as in the
UK.  In some states, you can pass your number plate on to relatives or by
will.  When a low-digit plate owner dies or turns his plate back into the
department of motor vehicles, some states will hold an auction or lottery
so that people can try to get it
https://www.fosters.com/article/20050816/news0103/108160014

Most states will allow you to purchase a "vanity" or "personalized" plate
with letters or numbers you specify:  Then the states need to hire workers
to make sure people don't ask for "offensive" sayings on their plates:
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plat=
es

Finally, most states will charge extra for plates that have certain
backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitable causes.  One of the
best ever was the guy who personalized his specialty plate about children:

Hope you and the family are well,

Rick Neville

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:38 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Daniel.
>
> A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-)
>
> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life,
> as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in
> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays
> with the car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner
> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used=
.
> In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets
> transferred from car to car.  You can also get a new license plate here
> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state afte=
r
> a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.
>
> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California
> is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I
> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you cou=
ld
> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had
> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outsid=
e
> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of
> cigarettes a day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our
> pollution blow over to Canada and New York.
>
> Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them
> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections hav=
e
> the same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion
> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to b=
e
> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than
> providing an income source for the state and the inspection station
> operators.
>
> One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate
> on the front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only
> require a plate on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a
> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone
> back away from the scene of a crime?
>
> Rick
>
> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various b=
y
> state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the pla=
te
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax=
,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxati=
on
> with representation.
>
> or that it has passed annual inspection?
>
>
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states
> require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an
> emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test.
> Kent
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel,<div><br></div><div>Some more info.=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/div><div><br></div><div>There is no real open market on low-digit or speci=
alty numbers as in the UK.=C2=A0 In some states, you can pass your number p=
late on to relatives or by will.=C2=A0 When a low-digit plate owner dies or=
 turns his plate back into the department of motor vehicles, some states wi=
ll hold an auction or lottery so that people can try to get it=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"https://www.fosters.com/article/20050816/news0103/108160014">http=
s://www.fosters.com/article/20050816/news0103/108160014</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Most states will allow you to purchase a &quot;vanity&quot; or &q=
uot;personalized&quot; plate with letters or numbers you specify:=C2=A0 The=
n the states need to hire workers to make sure people don&#39;t ask for &qu=
ot;offensive&quot; sayings on their plates:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://w=
ww.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates">https=
://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates</a=
></div><div><br></div><div>Finally, most states will charge extra for plate=
s that have certain backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitable=
 causes.=C2=A0 One of the best ever was the guy who personalized his specia=
lty plate about children:</div><div><br></div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_kt8yy=
fhz0" alt=3D"eatthekidsfirst.jpg" width=3D"459" height=3D"313"><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Hope you and the family are well,</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Rick Neville</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:=
38 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little misinformation in s=
ome of the answers so far. =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">In some states the license plate stays with the car for i=
t&#39;s entire life, as long as the car stays in the state and is not sold =
and registered in another state.=C2=A0 California is one state for example =
where the plate stays with the car for it&#39;s entire life. =C2=A0 If a us=
ed car is sold the new owner gets a new title and registration in his name,=
 but the same plate is used.=C2=A0 In Michigan where I live now the plate s=
tays with the driver and gets transferred from car to car.=C2=A0 You can al=
so get a new license plate here whenever you want.=C2=A0 The plates in Mich=
igan are replaced by the state after a certain number of years because they=
 deteriorate in our weather.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.=C2=A0 Cali=
fornia is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work=
.=C2=A0 I lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when=
 you could literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog=
.=C2=A0 We had regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed=
 to go outside because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking=
 two packs of cigarettes a day.=C2=A0 Michigan has no smog inspections.=C2=
=A0 We just let our pollution blow over to Canada and New York. =C2=A0</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Safety inspections are left up=
 to the individual states, some have them some don&#39;t.=C2=A0 However, th=
e states with very thorough safety inpections have the same accident rates =
as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are really nothing but=
 a money grab by the state.=C2=A0 No one seems to be able to prove that the=
 &quot;safety&quot; inspections do any good at all other than providing an =
income source for the state and the inspection station operators.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one has mentione=
d is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of the car whil=
e others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear.=C2=A0 The pla=
te is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scene of an inc=
ident.=C2=A0 How often does someone back away from the scene of a crime? =
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McL=
ean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Palatino-Roman">Weslake1330</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">So the tag =
is what I&#39;d call=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;=
font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:norma=
l;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;displ=
ay:inline">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>C=
orrect. Also called a license plate.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:norma=
l;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-al=
ign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">and each year you ha=
ve to pay the government (&#39;the man&#39;?)</span><br style=3D"font-famil=
y:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;=
font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;t=
ext-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none=
"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:norma=
l;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-al=
ign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">for a sticker that s=
ays you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blockquote>=
<div><br></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with f=
ees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number p=
late. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you =
turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also char=
ge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a =
city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or=C2=A0</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:=
start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">that it has passed annua=
l inspection? =C2=A0</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>That is separa=
te from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require an annual sa=
fety inspection. Some don&#39;t. Some also require an emissions test. Some =
states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending on where=
 you live.</div><div><br></div><div>The US and Great Britain, two countries=
 separated by =C2=A0common language. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Kent=C2=A0=
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Many thanks.  My 69 Sprite is exempt emissions (hydrocarbons) which is good
since it runs a near full race air/fuel ratio!  It just has a visible smoke
test (if the engine was burning a massive amount of oil it might fail).

Regards

Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 10:59, Kent McLean via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by
> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate
> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax,
> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation
> with representation.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Many thanks.=C2=A0 My 69 Sprite is exempt emissions (hydro=
carbons) which is good since it runs a near full race air/fuel ratio!=C2=A0=
 It just has a visible smoke test (if the engine was burning a massive amou=
nt of oil it might fail).<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Daniel</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 10:59, Kent McLean via=
 Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Palatino-Roman">Weslake1330</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor=
d-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">So the tag is=
 what I&#39;d call=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;fo=
nt-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display=
:inline">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cor=
rect. Also called a license plate.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-alig=
n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">and each year you have=
 to pay the government (&#39;the man&#39;?)</span><br style=3D"font-family:=
Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo=
nt-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;tex=
t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">=
<span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-alig=
n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">for a sticker that say=
s you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fee=
s that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number pla=
te. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you tu=
rn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge=
 an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a ci=
ty tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-a=
lign:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or=C2=A0</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font=
-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:st=
art;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">that it has passed annual =
inspection? =C2=A0</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>That is separate=
 from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require an annual safe=
ty inspection. Some don&#39;t. Some also require an emissions test. Some st=
ates have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending on where y=
ou live.</div><div><br></div><div>The US and Great Britain, two countries s=
eparated by =C2=A0common language. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Kent=C2=A0</=
div><div>&#39;56 100</div><div>&#39;60 Sprite</div><div><br></div></div>---=
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Thanks, interesting point about some states not needing a plate on the
front - seems odd to me.  Over here only motorcycles are exempt from having
a plate on the front after they found they were a bit like a cutting blade
in an accident (in the 1960s I guess).

Regards

Daniel

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, interesting point about some states not needing a =
plate on the front - seems odd to me.=C2=A0 Over here only motorcycles are =
exempt from having a plate on the front after they found they were a bit li=
ke a cutting blade in an accident (in the 1960s I guess).<div><br></div><di=
v>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sep=
t 2021 at 18:37, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi=
 Daniel.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little misinfor=
mation in some of the answers so far. =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In some states the license plate stays with th=
e car for it&#39;s entire life, as long as the car stays in the state and i=
s not sold and registered in another state.=C2=A0 California is one state f=
or example where the plate stays with the car for it&#39;s entire life. =C2=
=A0 If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new title and registration i=
n his name, but the same plate is used.=C2=A0 In Michigan where I live now =
the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from car to car.=C2=A0=
 You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.=C2=A0 The pla=
tes in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of years b=
ecause they deteriorate in our weather.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.=
=C2=A0 California is one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices t=
hey do work.=C2=A0 I lived in California back in the sixties and I remember=
 times when you could literally not see three blocks down the road because =
of the smog.=C2=A0 We had regular smog alerts when the kids at school were =
not allowed to go outside because just breathing the air was the equivalent=
 of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.=C2=A0 Michigan has no smog inspe=
ctions.=C2=A0 We just let our pollution blow over to Canada and New York. =
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Safety inspections =
are left up to the individual states, some have them some don&#39;t.=C2=A0 =
However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the same acci=
dent rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are really =
nothing but a money grab by the state.=C2=A0 No one seems to be able to pro=
ve that the &quot;safety&quot; inspections do any good at all other than pr=
oviding an income source for the state and the inspection station operators=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one h=
as mentioned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of t=
he car while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear.=C2=
=A0 The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scen=
e of an incident.=C2=A0 How often does someone back away from the scene of =
a crime? =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, =
Kent McLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"=
font-family:Palatino-Roman">Weslake1330</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px=
;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">So =
the tag is what I&#39;d call=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatin=
o-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weig=
ht:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:no=
ne;display:inline">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Correct. Also called a license plate.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">and each yea=
r you have to pay the government (&#39;the man&#39;?)</span><br style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps=
:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion:none"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">for a sticke=
r that says you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blo=
ckquote><div><br></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registration=
 (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your =
number plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the c=
ar, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states a=
lso charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also=
 adds a city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm=
al;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or=C2=
=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal=
;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">that it has =
passed annual inspection? =C2=A0</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Th=
at is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states require =
an annual safety inspection. Some don&#39;t. Some also require an emissions=
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Yep, seems to odd to me but then again I think all of Europe would fit
inside Texas (by area).

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 18:44, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <
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> The USA is a federation if individual states, and each state makes it=E2=
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> own laws regarding motor vehicles.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yep, seems to odd to me but then again I think all of Euro=
pe would fit inside Texas (by area).</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 18:44, Billy Zoo=
m via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@a=
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ng-left:1ex">The USA is a federation if individual states, and each state m=
akes it=E2=80=99s own laws regarding motor vehicles. <br>
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Hi Rick,

I'm as well as can be expected living in a house full of women (very far
removed from the fantasies of my youth)!

Thanks for the banned list of plates link.  There is some sort of vetting
on personalised plates over here that might be offensive.  I saw a plate
that would read Ben Dover.  Here is my list of silly names that might be
presented one at a time to an office/airport/whatever reception for them to
announce over the tannoy system (I've seen one on US news banner when a
witness to whatever claimed that was his name):

Mike Litoris
Ophelia Balls
Drew Peacock
Hugh Jars
Phil Mycrak
Tess Tickel
Norma Stitts
Issac Cox
Issac Hunt
Jack Schitt
Jenny Talls
Summon Toofak

Regards

Daniel

On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 19:21, HealeyRick via Spridgets <
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> with letters or numbers you specify:  Then the states need to hire worker=
s
> https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-pl=
ates
> backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitable causes.  One of t=
he
> best ever was the guy who personalized his specialty plate about children=
:
>> In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life=
,
>> another state.  California is one state for example where the plate stay=
s
>> gets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is use=
d.
>> whenever you want.  The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state aft=
er
>> Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  Californi=
a
>> lived in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you co=
uld
>> literally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We ha=
d
>> regular smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outsi=
de
>> because just breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs o=
f
>> some don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections ha=
ve
>> they are really nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to =
be
>> able to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other tha=
n
>> vehicle trying to leave the scene of an incident.  How often does someon=
e
>> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various
>> by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That pla=
te
>> does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the pl=
ate
>> and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise ta=
x,
>> so they can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxat=
ion
>> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :=
)
>> '60 Sprite

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Rick,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m as well as can be expe=
cted living in a house full of women (very far removed from the fantasies o=
f my youth)!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the banned list of plates =
link.=C2=A0 There is some sort of vetting on personalised plates over here =
that might be offensive.=C2=A0 I saw a plate that would read Ben Dover.=C2=
=A0 Here is my list of silly names that might be presented one at a time to=
 an office/airport/whatever reception for them to announce over the tannoy =
system (I&#39;ve seen one on US news banner when a witness to whatever clai=
med that was his name):</div><div><br></div><div>Mike Litoris<br>Ophelia Ba=
lls<br>Drew Peacock<br>Hugh Jars<br>Phil Mycrak<br>Tess Tickel<br>Norma Sti=
tts<br>Issac Cox<br>Issac Hunt<br>Jack Schitt<br>Jenny Talls<br>Summon Toof=
ak<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>Daniel</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 Sep=
t 2021 at 19:21, HealeyRick via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@a=
utox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel,<div><br>=
</div><div>Some more info.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>There is no=
 real open market on low-digit or specialty numbers as in the UK.=C2=A0 In =
some states, you can pass your number plate on to relatives or by will.=C2=
=A0 When a low-digit plate owner dies or turns his plate back into the depa=
rtment of motor vehicles, some states will hold an auction or lottery so th=
at people can try to get it=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.fosters.com/a=
rticle/20050816/news0103/108160014" target=3D"_blank">https://www.fosters.c=
om/article/20050816/news0103/108160014</a></div><div><br></div><div>Most st=
ates will allow you to purchase a &quot;vanity&quot; or &quot;personalized&=
quot; plate with letters or numbers you specify:=C2=A0 Then the states need=
 to hire workers to make sure people don&#39;t ask for &quot;offensive&quot=
; sayings on their plates:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.mentalfloss.co=
m/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622562/banned-personalized-license-plates</=
a></div><div><br></div><div>Finally, most states will charge extra for plat=
es that have certain backgrounds that appeal to people or support charitabl=
e causes.=C2=A0 One of the best ever was the guy who personalized his speci=
alty plate about children:</div><div><br></div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_kt8y=
yfhz0" alt=3D"eatthekidsfirst.jpg" width=3D"459" height=3D"313"><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Hope you and the family are well,</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Rick Neville</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1=
:38 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Hi Daniel.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little =
misinformation in some of the answers so far. =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In some states the license plate stays=
 with the car for it&#39;s entire life, as long as the car stays in the sta=
te and is not sold and registered in another state.=C2=A0 California is one=
 state for example where the plate stays with the car for it&#39;s entire l=
ife. =C2=A0 If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new title and regist=
ration in his name, but the same plate is used.=C2=A0 In Michigan where I l=
ive now the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from car to ca=
r.=C2=A0 You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.=C2=A0=
 The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of=
 years because they deteriorate in our weather.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Many states have inspections for emissions control eq=
uipment.=C2=A0 California is one such state, and while car guys hate smog d=
evices they do work.=C2=A0 I lived in California back in the sixties and I =
remember times when you could literally not see three blocks down the road =
because of the smog.=C2=A0 We had regular smog alerts when the kids at scho=
ol were not allowed to go outside because just breathing the air was the eq=
uivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.=C2=A0 Michigan has no sm=
og inspections.=C2=A0 We just let our pollution blow over to Canada and New=
 York. =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Safety inspe=
ctions are left up to the individual states, some have them some don&#39;t.=
=C2=A0 However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the sa=
me accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are =
really nothing but a money grab by the state.=C2=A0 No one seems to be able=
 to prove that the &quot;safety&quot; inspections do any good at all other =
than providing an income source for the state and the inspection station op=
erators.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing n=
o one has mentioned is that some states require a plate on the front and re=
ar of the car while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the r=
ear.=C2=A0 The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave t=
he scene of an incident.=C2=A0 How often does someone back away from the sc=
ene of a crime? =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ric=
k</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:=
00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></bl=
ockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span st=
yle=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman">Weslake1330</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-si=
ze:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lette=
r-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white=
-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inli=
ne">So the tag is what I&#39;d call=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:=
Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo=
nt-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;tex=
t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;f=
loat:none;display:inline">the number plate </span></div></blockquote><div><=
br></div><div>Correct. Also called a license plate.</div><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">and e=
ach year you have to pay the government (&#39;the man&#39;?)</span><br styl=
e=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;te=
xt-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-=
decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;f=
ont-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">for a=
 sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it </span></di=
v></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Regis=
tration (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets yo=
u your number plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sel=
l the car, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some s=
tates also charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY Ci=
ty also adds a city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18p=
x;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spac=
ing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">or=
=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-=
style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">that it h=
as passed annual inspection? =C2=A0</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div=
>That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states requi=
re an annual safety inspection. Some don&#39;t. Some also require an emissi=
ons test. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV dep=
ending on where you live.</div><div><br></div><div>The US and Great Britain=
, two countries separated by =C2=A0common language. :)</div><div><br></div>=
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> back away from the scene of a crime?

And then there's the state of Missouri that require only a front plate for
trucks.

I've never understood that one.

On the discussion of "vanity" plates, my favorites are the failures - where
the owner sees one thing but others read it quite differently.

We have a woman that drives a red New Beetle convertible around here with a
plate that I'm sure she thinks says "BLOSSOM 1" - but I'm not so sure...
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<div dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 12:37 PM Rick Fisk via S=
pridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><b=
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one has menti=
oned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of the car w=
hile others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear.=C2=A0 The =
plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scene of an =
incident.=C2=A0 How often does someone back away from the scene of a crime?=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">And then there&#39;s the state of Missouri that require only =
a front plate for trucks.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">I&#39;ve never understood that one.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">On the discussion of &quot;vanity&quot; plates, my favorites =
are the failures - where the owner sees one thing but others read it quite =
differently.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We ha=
ve a woman that drives a red New Beetle convertible around here with a plat=
e that I&#39;m sure she thinks says &quot;BLOSSOM 1&quot; - but I&#39;m not=
 so sure...</div><div dir=3D"auto">Her plate is &quot;BLOSOM 1&quot;</div><=
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