Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need help with my 67 Sprite clutch

From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 15:35:47 -0400

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Hi Phil,

Are you sure you replaced the throwout bearing with the correct unit?  There=
 are three different throwout bearings available for the A-series engine.  P=
hoto below from Gerard's Garage website shows the difference.

Rick

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Phil Sarikas via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I need the help of this group to get my clutch working as well as can be. =
 The car is any early 67 sprite with a 1275 and the standard ribcage transmi=
ssion.  At this point, everything in the hydraulic system has been replaced o=
ver the 20 years I have owned the car. =20
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> Over the winter/spring, I had the engine out and did some work to reduce t=
he overall oil leaks and did replace the needle bearings in the transmission=
, and a new throwout bearing but nothing that opened up the clutch hydraulic=
 system. =20
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> Put it all back together and went for a drive and the clutch was clearly n=
ot working correctly, I could get it to shift but it often required me to pu=
mp the clutch several times to get it to shift correctly and could only get i=
t into reverse if I went to the path of turning off the motor and restarting=
 it in reverse.  Not a place I can stay.  I bled it as completely as I could=
 with my EZ-Bleed and tried it again.  I wish I could say it was better, but=
 no real change. =20
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> I have pulled the slave cylinder, no signs of leaks, and no real signs of p=
itting in the cylinder, and I was going to rebuild it as well as the master b=
ut turns that my box of parts has 2 seal kits for the master cylinder, and n=
one for the slave cylinder.  As I wait for the local shop to open on Tuesday=
, I looked around on this site and others, and it seems that some have succe=
ssfully applied the smaller cylinder from a 1098 on the 1275, same transmiss=
ion, bolts up but needs a shorter pin, but how does the hydraulic part work?=
  There is no equivalent rubber pipe on the earlier cars?  I like the rubber=
 connection so I would need some work of an adapter to cover from what appea=
rs to be a 7/16 fine thread (20?) on the pipe (adaptor would need to be fema=
le) To a 3/8 fine (24?) On the 1098 slave cylinder (adaptor would need to be=
 male).  Is there such an adapter off the shelf? =20
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> Is there a downside to the smaller diameter slave cylinder other than perh=
aps a bit more force to move the pedal?  I did check with a camera, I am get=
ting movement as soon as the clutch pedal is depressed, just not enough move=
ment to fully disengage the engine from the transmission. =20
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> Open to any and all input!
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> Thanks, Phil
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> Thanks, Phil
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Phil,</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you sure you replaced the throwout beari=
ng with the correct unit? &nbsp;There are three different throwout bearings a=
vailable for the A-series engine. &nbsp;Photo below from Gerard's Garage web=
site shows the difference.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Rick</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><img src=3D"cid:A87FCD=
E9-3FFC-4D6A-8C9C-44A452A2DDF0-L0-001"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Jul 5, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Phil Sarikas via Spridgets &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">

<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
I need the help of this group to get my clutch working as well as can be.&nb=
sp; The car is any early 67 sprite with a 1275 and the standard ribcage tran=
smission.&nbsp; At this point, everything in the hydraulic system has been r=
eplaced over the 20 years I have owned
 the car. &nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
Over the winter/spring, I had the engine out and did some work to reduce the=
 overall oil leaks and did replace the needle bearings in the transmission, a=
nd a new throwout bearing but nothing that opened up the clutch hydraulic sy=
stem. &nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
Put it all back together and went for a drive and the clutch was clearly not=
 working correctly, I could get it to shift but it often required me to pump=
 the clutch several times to get it to shift correctly and could only get it=
 into reverse if I went to the
 path of turning off the motor and restarting it in reverse.&nbsp; Not a pla=
ce I can stay.&nbsp; I bled it as completely as I could with my EZ-Bleed and=
 tried it again.&nbsp; I wish I could say it was better, but no real change.=
 &nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
I have pulled the slave cylinder, no signs of leaks, and no real signs of pi=
tting in the cylinder, and I was going to rebuild it as well as the master b=
ut turns that my box of parts has 2 seal kits for the master cylinder, and n=
one for the slave cylinder.&nbsp;
 As I wait for the local shop to open on Tuesday, I looked around on this si=
te and others, and it seems that some have successfully applied the smaller c=
ylinder from a 1098 on the 1275, same transmission, bolts up but needs a sho=
rter pin, but how does the hydraulic
 part work?&nbsp; There is no equivalent rubber pipe on the earlier cars?&nb=
sp; I like the rubber connection so I would need some work of an adapter to c=
over from what appears to be a&nbsp;<span dir=3D"ltr">7/16</span>&nbsp;fine t=
hread (20?) on the pipe (adaptor would need to be
 female) To a 3/8 fine (24?) On the 1098 slave cylinder (adaptor would need t=
o be male).&nbsp; Is there such an adapter off the shelf? &nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
Is there a downside to the smaller diameter slave cylinder other than perhap=
s a bit more force to move the pedal?&nbsp; I did check with a camera, I am g=
etting movement as soon as the clutch pedal is depressed, just not enough mo=
vement to fully disengage the engine
 from the transmission. &nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;;">
Open to any and all input!</p>
<p style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 11px; margin: 0px; fo=
nt-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;; min-height: 12px;">
<br>
</p>
<div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: &quot;Helvetica N=
eue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">
Thanks, Phil</div>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Phil</div>

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 02:56:26 +0000

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 03:07:55 +0000

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