Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust concerns?

From: crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 11:29:22 -0500

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My exhaust concerns are based upon hillclimb courses.   I'm quite certain I would be fine on a road course with an under car system.  Hillclimbs we run here with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed ( for the event) public roads.  One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has a very noteworthy "jump" with lots of trees and huge granite boulders on both sides of the course.  Cars that carry any speed or have enough horsepower to accelerate through the right hander that proceeds the jump get momentarily airborne off the jump.  I literally hurt my back coming off the jump doing "exhibition runs" ( no longer allowed) with my Bugeye years ago and the header & exhaust did momentarily make contact upon landing.  The Bugeye has a Longman LCB header and the entire system is tucked up against the floor for the entire length.  Yes the header was sectioned so the collector exit was about 1/4" away from the footwell underside.My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed ( allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition.  My next question is using a reverse cone megaphone to improve extraction and straight pipe thereafter or like the old days a megaphone .   thouggts?   Now no top secret stuff.... LOL!   ChuckSent from my LG Mobile
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    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">My exhaust concerns are based upon hillclimb courses.&nbsp; &nbsp;I'm quite certain I would be fine on a road course with an under car system.&nbsp; Hillclimbs we run here with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed ( for the event) public roads.&nbsp; One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has a very noteworthy "jump" with lots of trees and huge granite boulders on both sides of the course.&nbsp; Cars that carry any speed or have enough horsepower to accelerate through the right hander that proceeds the jump get momentarily airborne off the jump.&nbsp; I literally hurt my back coming off the jump doing "exhibition runs" ( no longer allowed) with my Bugeye years ago and the header &amp; exhaust did momentarily make contact upon landing.&nbsp; The Bugeye has a Longman LCB header and the entire system is tucked up against the floor for the entire length.&nbsp; Yes the header was sectioned so the collector exit was about 1/4" away from the footwell underside.</div><div dir="auto">My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed ( allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">My next question is using a reverse cone megaphone to improve extraction and straight pipe thereafter or like the old days a megaphone .&nbsp; &nbsp;thouggts?&nbsp; &nbsp;Now no top secret stuff.... LOL!&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Chuck</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div>

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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 11:35:00 -0500

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I have a really long megaphone.  :-)

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> On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:29 AM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
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> My exhaust concerns are based upon hillclimb courses.   I'm quite certain I=
 would be fine on a road course with an under car system.  Hillclimbs we run=
 here with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed ( for=
 the event) public roads.  One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has a v=
ery noteworthy "jump" with lots of trees and huge granite boulders on both s=
ides of the course.  Cars that carry any speed or have enough horsepower to a=
ccelerate through the right hander that proceeds the jump get momentarily ai=
rborne off the jump.  I literally hurt my back coming off the jump doing "ex=
hibition runs" ( no longer allowed) with my Bugeye years ago and the header &=
 exhaust did momentarily make contact upon landing.  The Bugeye has a Longma=
n LCB header and the entire system is tucked up against the floor for the en=
tire length.  Yes the header was sectioned so the collector exit wa s about 1=
/4" away from the footwell underside.
> My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed (=
 allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition. =20=

> My next question is using a reverse cone megaphone to improve extraction a=
nd straight pipe thereafter or like the old days a megaphone .   thouggts?  =
 Now no top secret stuff.... LOL!  =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body dir="auto">I have a really long megaphone. &nbsp;:-)<div><br></div><div><img src="cid:D7BA9099-8A2F-4D42-A1E4-F66A4632D7AD" alt="image1.jpeg" id="D7BA9099-8A2F-4D42-A1E4-F66A4632D7AD"><br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:29 AM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

    <div style="font-size: 10pt;"><div dir="auto">My exhaust concerns are based upon hillclimb courses.&nbsp; &nbsp;I'm quite certain I would be fine on a road course with an under car system.&nbsp; Hillclimbs we run here with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed ( for the event) public roads.&nbsp; One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has a very noteworthy "jump" with lots of trees and huge granite boulders on both sides of the course.&nbsp; Cars that carry any speed or have enough horsepower to accelerate through the right hander that proceeds the jump get momentarily airborne off the jump.&nbsp; I literally hurt my back coming off the jump doing "exhibition runs" ( no longer allowed) with my Bugeye years ago and the header &amp; exhaust did momentarily make contact upon landing.&nbsp; The Bugeye has a Longman LCB header and the entire system is tucked up against the floor for the entire length.&nbsp; Yes the header was sectioned so the collector exit wa
 s about 1/4" away from the footwell underside.</div><div dir="auto">My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed ( allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">My next question is using a reverse cone megaphone to improve extraction and straight pipe thereafter or like the old days a megaphone .&nbsp; &nbsp;thouggts?&nbsp; &nbsp;Now no top secret stuff.... LOL!&nbsp; &nbsp;</div><div dir="auto">Chuck</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:9pt;"><i>Sent from my LG Mobile</i></div></div></div>

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From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 18:35:35 +0000

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That's idea that could work well, aside from blistering the paint on the
sill!

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:29 AM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> My exhaust concerns are based upon hillclimb courses.   I'm quite certain
> I would be fine on a road course with an under car system.  Hillclimbs we
> run here with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed (
> for the event) public roads.  One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has
> a very noteworthy "jump" with lots of trees and huge granite boulders on
> both sides of the course.  Cars that carry any speed or have enough
> horsepower to accelerate through the right hander that proceeds the jump
> get momentarily airborne off the jump.  I literally hurt my back coming off
> the jump doing "exhibition runs" ( no longer allowed) with my Bugeye years
> ago and the header & exhaust did momentarily make contact upon landing.
> The Bugeye has a Longman LCB header and the entire system is tucked up
> against the floor for the entire length.  Yes the header was sectioned so
> the collector exit wa s about 1/4" away from the footwell underside.
> My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed
> ( allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition.
> My next question is using a reverse cone megaphone to improve extraction
> and straight pipe thereafter or like the old days a megaphone .
>  thouggts?   Now no top secret stuff.... LOL!
> Chuck
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s idea that could work well, aside from blisterin=
g the paint on the sill!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridget=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"auto">I have a really long megaphone. =C2=A0:-)<div><br></div><d=
iv><img src=3D"cid:16ed231a2bf43c689201" alt=3D"image1.jpeg" id=3D"gmail-m_=
-8844749376374297858D7BA9099-8A2F-4D42-A1E4-F66A4632D7AD"><br><br><div id=
=3D"gmail-m_-8844749376374297858AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:29 AM, crusaderc=
huck55--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">

    <div style=3D"font-size:10pt"><div dir=3D"auto">My exhaust concerns are=
 based upon hillclimb courses.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;m quite certain I would be=
 fine on a road course with an under car system.=C2=A0 Hillclimbs we run he=
re with the PHA ( Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association) are on closed ( for t=
he event) public roads.=C2=A0 One specific event ( Weatherly Hillclimb) has=
 a very noteworthy &quot;jump&quot; with lots of trees and huge granite bou=
lders on both sides of the course.=C2=A0 Cars that carry any speed or have =
enough horsepower to accelerate through the right hander that proceeds the =
jump get momentarily airborne off the jump.=C2=A0 I literally hurt my back =
coming off the jump doing &quot;exhibition runs&quot; ( no longer allowed) =
with my Bugeye years ago and the header &amp; exhaust did momentarily make =
contact upon landing.=C2=A0 The Bugeye has a Longman LCB header and the ent=
ire system is tucked up against the floor for the entire length.=C2=A0 Yes =
the header was sectioned so the collector exit wa
 s about 1/4&quot; away from the footwell underside.</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>My side exhaust set up was designed by the person who originally designed =
( allegedly) the first through the tunnel system used in SCCA competition.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">My next question is using a reverse con=
e megaphone to improve extraction and straight pipe thereafter or like the =
old days a megaphone .=C2=A0 =C2=A0thouggts?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Now no top secret =
stuff.... LOL!=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Chuck</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size:9pt"><i>Sent from =
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 13:54:22 -0500

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That system is about 30 years old and hasn't blistered the paint yet.  :-)  I=
'm not running it currently because the new tires are a larger diameter and w=
on't clear the pipe in the wheel well.

Sent from my keyboard

> On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Weslake1330 <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> That's idea that could work well, aside from blistering the paint on the s=
ill!
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>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
>> I have a really long megaphone.  :-)

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">That system is about 30 years old and hasn'=
t blistered the paint yet. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;I'm not running it currently beca=
use the new tires are a larger diameter and won't clear the pipe in the whee=
l well.<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keybo=
ard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Weslake1330 &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Tha=
t's idea that could work well, aside from blistering the paint on the sill!<=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I have a real=
ly long megaphone. &nbsp;:-)<div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
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From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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Well on my car's header I quickly managed to burn off the outer layer of
the thermal barrier coating!  I just need to get around to taking a photo
of it before the guarantee runs out.  Once the sole of the passengers
sneakers began to melt.  Just saying!

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> That system is about 30 years old and hasn't blistered the paint yet.  :-)
>  I'm not running it currently because the new tires are a larger diameter
> and won't clear the pipe in the wheel well.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well on my car&#39;s header I quickly managed to burn off =
the outer layer of the thermal barrier coating!=C2=A0 I just need to get ar=
ound=C2=A0to taking a photo of it before the guarantee runs out.=C2=A0 Once=
 the sole of the passengers sneakers began to melt.=C2=A0 Just saying!</div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On We=
d, 4 Dec 2019 at 18:54, Rick Fisk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">That system is about 30 years old =
and hasn&#39;t blistered the paint yet. =C2=A0:-) =C2=A0I&#39;m not running=
 it currently because the new tires are a larger diameter and won&#39;t cle=
ar the pipe in the wheel well.<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-56592653828721049=
84AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br>On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Weslake1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslak=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">That&=
#39;s idea that could work well, aside from blistering the paint on the sil=
l!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"auto">I have a really long megaphone. =C2=A0:-)<div><br></div><div><=
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC)

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 Ceramic coating is the way to go.=C2=A0 My 1275 header still has the origi=
nal cast iron color that was applied by Jet Hot ten years ago.=C2=A0 By the=
 way, they coat the inside as well.
Mike MacLean

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s <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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he thermal barrier coating!=C2=A0 I just need to get around=C2=A0to taking =
a photo of it before the guarantee runs out.=C2=A0 Once the sole of the pas=
sengers sneakers began to melt.=C2=A0 Just saying!
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 18:54, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:

That system is about 30 years old and hasn't blistered the paint yet. =C2=
=A0:-) =C2=A0I'm not running it currently because the new tires are a large=
r diameter and won't clear the pipe in the wheel well.

Sent from my keyboard

That's idea that could work well, aside from blistering the paint on the si=
ll!
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:

I have a really long megaphone. =C2=A0:-)

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Ceramic coating is the way t=
o go.&nbsp; My 1275 header still has the original cast iron color that was =
applied by Jet Hot ten years ago.&nbsp; By the way, they coat the inside as=
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                    On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 2:27:01 PM PST, Weslake1=
330 via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv6032732370"><div dir=3D"ltr">Well on my =
car's header I quickly managed to burn off the outer layer of the thermal b=
arrier coating!&nbsp; I just need to get around&nbsp;to taking a photo of i=
t before the guarantee runs out.&nbsp; Once the sole of the passengers snea=
kers began to melt.&nbsp; Just saying!</div><br><div class=3D"yiv6032732370=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv6032732370gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 D=
ec 2019 at 18:54, Rick Fisk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:refis=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ref=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv603273237=
0gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>That system is about 30 years old and h=
asn't blistered the paint yet. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;I'm not running it currently=
 because the new tires are a larger diameter and won't clear the pipe in th=
e wheel well.<br><br><div id=3D"yiv6032732370gmail-m_-5659265382872104984Ap=
pleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br>On Dec 4, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Weslake1330 &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:weslake1=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">That's idea that could wo=
rk well, aside from blistering the paint on the sill!</div><br><div class=
=3D"yiv6032732370gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv6032732370gmail_=
attr">On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:50, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
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<div>I have a really long megaphone. &nbsp;:-)<div><br></div><div><br></div=
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