Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing/updated Re: odd cartridge??

From: "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:39:33 +0000

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I pulled off what turned out to be just a retaining "nut". It exposed what =
you see in the two pictures.

I assume I can pull the gray plastic bit off if necessary.

Is that notch in the bottom of the brass collar meant to be used with a too=
l to remove the cartridge?

If so, I guess I get to buy a new tool.

Thanks
tim

________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tim . <tims=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:03 PM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] odd cartridge??

A picture might help.....ffs tim
________________________________
From: Tim . <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:02 PM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: odd cartridge??

I need to replace at least the cold cartridge in our shower--probably just =
do both IF I can find replacements. I do not know how old this system is bu=
t assume 40+ years, maybe 50.

This is what it looks like before full removal. At this stage in disassembl=
y, it looks nothing like any of the videos I have looked at online.

Does anyone recognize this? What are my chances of finding a replacement? O=
r should I just hope I can rebuild it?

I can find no markings to ID the system.

Thanks
tim

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I pulled off what turned out to be just a retaining &quot;nut&quot;. It exp=
osed what you see in the two pictures.&nbsp;</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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I assume I can pull the gray plastic bit off if necessary.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Is that notch in the bottom of the brass collar meant to be used with a too=
l to remove the cartridge?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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If so, I guess I get to buy a new tool.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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<br>
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Thanks</div>
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tim</div>
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<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on beh=
alf of Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>&nbsp;Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Shop-talk] odd cartridge??</div>
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<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>&nbsp;Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;odd cartridge??</div>
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</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I need to replace at least the cold cartridge in our shower--probably just =
do both IF I can find replacements. I do not know how old this system is bu=
t assume 40+ years, maybe 50.</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
This is what it looks like before full removal. At this stage in disassembl=
y, it looks nothing like any of the videos I have looked at online.&nbsp;</=
div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Does anyone recognize this? What are my chances of finding a replacement? O=
r should I just hope I can rebuild it?</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction: ltr; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I can find no markings to ID the system.&nbsp;</div>
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<br>
</div>
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Thanks</div>
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font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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From: "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:46:09 +0000

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________________________________
From: Tim . <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 9:39 AM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: ongoing/updated Re: odd cartridge??

Thanks
tim

Thanks
tim

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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 7, 2026 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I pulled off what turned out to be just a retaining &quot;nut&quot;. It exp=
osed what you see in the two pictures.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I assume I can pull the gray plastic bit off if necessary.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Is that notch in the bottom of the brass collar meant to be used with a too=
l to remove the cartridge?</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
If so, I guess I get to buy a new tool.&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks</div>
<div class=3D"x_elementToProof" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
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<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on beh=
alf of Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>&nbsp;Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Shop-talk] odd cartridge??</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
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A picture might help.....ffs tim</div>
<div id=3D"x_x_appendonsend"></div>
<hr style=3D"direction:ltr; display:inline-block; width:98%">
<div id=3D"x_x_divRplyFwdMsg">
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; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<b>From:</b>&nbsp;Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, December 6, 2025 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>&nbsp;Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;odd cartridge??</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I need to replace at least the cold cartridge in our shower--probably just =
do both IF I can find replacements. I do not know how old this system is bu=
t assume 40+ years, maybe 50.</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
This is what it looks like before full removal. At this stage in disassembl=
y, it looks nothing like any of the videos I have looked at online.&nbsp;</=
div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Does anyone recognize this? What are my chances of finding a replacement? O=
r should I just hope I can rebuild it?</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
I can find no markings to ID the system.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks</div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font=
-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
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From: "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 15:56:27 +0000

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Never mind. I got it out.
ffs
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tim . <tims=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 9:39 AM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] ongoing/updated Re: odd cartridge??

Thanks
tim

Thanks
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