Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Gas Vs Oil Vs Propane

From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:56:09 -0500

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The big issue for me here in MA is the delivery charge for NG is greater =
than the cost of the gas itself. My Dec bill for a poorly insulated =
816sf house was $637. However, you won't run out of NG.=20

I will go all electric ASAP, because I'm on municipal electric, cheapest =
in the state. Plus there are rebates, but they aren't close to what I'd =
save DIYing it. Might be worth investogating that?

jim

> On Jan 23, 2026, at 3:30 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
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> Hey everyone,=20
> Quick question for the hive mind. I=E2=80=99m looking at whether it =
makes sense to switch to natural gas or just stick with propane and oil. =
 I have 2 properties that now have natural gas available.  One is using =
oil heat and the other is using propane.=20
> If you=E2=80=99ve made the switch (or decided not to), I=E2=80=99d =
love to hear:
> Pros/cons you=E2=80=99ve seen
> Cost differences over time
> Any regrets or =E2=80=9Cwish I knew this first=E2=80=9D advice
> I'm just gathering some real-world input. Appreciate any thoughts.=20
>=20
> Thanks=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">The big issue =
for me here in MA is the delivery charge for NG is greater than the cost =
of the gas itself. My Dec bill for a poorly insulated 816sf house was =
$637. However, you won't run out of NG.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>I =
will go all electric ASAP, because I'm on municipal electric, cheapest =
in the state. Plus there are rebates, but they aren't close to what I'd =
save DIYing it. Might be worth investogating =
that?</div><div><br></div><div>jim</div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2026, at 3:30 PM, [email-masked] =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style=3D" =
font-size:12pt">Hey everyone,</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Quick question for the hive mind. =
I=E2=80=99m
looking at whether it makes sense to switch to natural gas or just stick
with propane and oil. &nbsp;I have 2 properties that now have natural =
gas
available. &nbsp;One is using oil heat and the other is using =
propane.</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">If you=E2=80=99ve made the switch =
(or decided
not to), I=E2=80=99d love to hear:</span>
<ul>
<li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Pros/cons you=E2=80=99ve seen</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Cost differences over =
time</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Any regrets or =E2=80=9Cwish I =
knew this first=E2=80=9D
advice</span></li></ul><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">I'm just =
gathering some
real-world input. Appreciate any thoughts.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Thanks</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Moose</span>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 21:55:15 -0600

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Following, even though I only have propane & electric as options. Moose, wou=
ld you mind if electric was added to your list please?=20

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Jan 23, 2026, at 2:43=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHey everyone,
Quick question for the hive mind. I=E2=80=99m looking at whether it makes se=
nse to switch to natural gas or just stick with propane and oil.  I have 2 p=
roperties that now have natural gas available.  One is using oil heat and th=
e other is using propane.
If you=E2=80=99ve made the switch (or decided not to), I=E2=80=99d love to h=
ear:
Pros/cons you=E2=80=99ve seen
Cost differences over time
Any regrets or =E2=80=9Cwish I knew this first=E2=80=9D advice
I'm just gathering some real-world input. Appreciate any thoughts.

Thanks

[email-masked]
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi=
ve

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Following, even though I only have propane &=
amp; electric as options. Moose, would you mind if electric was added to you=
r list please?&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"lineB=
reakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support H=
abitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 23=
, 2026, at 2:43=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Hey everyone,</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Quick question for the hive mind. I=E2=80=
=99m
looking at whether it makes sense to switch to natural gas or just stick
with propane and oil. &nbsp;I have 2 properties that now have natural gas
available. &nbsp;One is using oil heat and the other is using propane.</span=
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">If you=E2=80=99ve made the switch (or de=
cided
not to), I=E2=80=99d love to hear:</span>
<ul>
<li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Pros/cons you=E2=80=99ve seen</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Cost differences over time</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Any regrets or =E2=80=9Cwish I knew=
 this first=E2=80=9D
advice</span></li></ul><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">I'm just gathering so=
me
real-world input. Appreciate any thoughts.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Thanks</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Moose</span>
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From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2026 06:14:39 -0500

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Mostly true, yes. But it costs a lot less to move heat (heat pump) than =
to make it (resistance heat). However, a heat pump (an AC unit that =
works in both directions, basically) is much more expensive up front, =
and requires an HVAC tech to install. However, it also provides AC, and =
Mr. Cool brand comes with pre-charged lines so no HVAC tech needed. It =
is the next future, and lots of municipalities have rebates. However, =
the rebates require professional installation, which costs much more =
than the rebate usually.=20

As you can see, it's not simple. :-)   There are web sites where you can =
input your costs of different energy sources and it will calculate the =
numbers so you can do a comparison. They are kind of blunt but the =
better the input, the better the output.=20

jim

> On Jan 24, 2026, at 5:53 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
> Actually, both house have electric 'supplemental' heat. I was always =
told that electric heat is the most expensive heat per BTU.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> From:        Pat Horne <[email-masked]>=20
> To:        [email-masked]=20
> Cc:        [email-masked]=20
> Date:        01/23/2026 22:55=20
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Gas Vs Oil Vs Propane=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Following, even though I only have propane & electric as options. =
Moose, would you mind if electric was added to your list please?=20
>=20
> Peace, Pat=20
>=20
> Pat Horne=20
> We support Habitat for Humanity=20
>=20
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFHey everyone,=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Mostly true, =
yes. But it costs a lot less to move heat (heat pump) than to make it =
(resistance heat). However, a heat pump (an AC unit that works in both =
directions, basically) is much more expensive up front, and requires an =
HVAC tech to install. However, it also provides AC, and Mr. Cool brand =
comes with pre-charged lines so no HVAC tech needed. It is the next =
future, and lots of municipalities have rebates. However, the rebates =
require professional installation, which costs much more than the rebate =
usually.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>As you can see, it's not simple. :-) =
&nbsp; There are web sites where you can input your costs of different =
energy sources and it will calculate the numbers so you can do a =
comparison. They are kind of blunt but the better the input, the better =
the output.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jan 24, 2026, at 5:53 AM, [email-masked] =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style=3D" =
font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Actually, both house
have electric 'supplemental' heat. I was always told that electric heat
is the most expensive heat per BTU.</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Pat
Horne &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span>
<br><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">[email-masked]</span>
<br><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">[email-masked]</span>
<br><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01/23/2026
22:55</span>
<br><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D" =
font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[Shop-talk] Gas Vs Oil Vs Propane</span>
<br>
<hr noshade=3D"">
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Following, even though I only have =
propane
&amp; electric as options. Moose, would you mind if electric was added
to your list please? </span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Peace, Pat</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Pat Horne </span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">We support Habitat for =
Humanity</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt"><br>
On Jan 23, 2026, at 2:43=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wrote:<br>
</span>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">=EF=BB=BFHey everyone, <br>
Quick question for the hive mind. I=E2=80=99m looking at whether it =
makes sense
to switch to natural gas or just stick with propane and oil. &nbsp;I =
have
2 properties that now have natural gas available. &nbsp;One is using oil
heat and the other is using propane. <br>
If you=E2=80=99ve made the switch (or decided not to), I=E2=80=99d love =
to hear: </span>
<ul>
<li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Pros/cons you=E2=80=99ve seen =
</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Cost differences over time =
</span>
</li><li><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">Any regrets or =E2=80=9Cwish I =
knew this first=E2=80=9D
advice</span></li></ul><span style=3D" font-size:12pt">I'm just =
gathering some
real-world input. Appreciate any thoughts. <br>
<br>
Thanks <br>
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