Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid

From: Philip Ethier <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 16:04:35 -0600

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Random wonderings.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:

> I seem to recall that they don't ship across the Mississippi.  East is
> east, and west is west....
>

I wonder how they figured out whether the address was east or west of the
Mississippi.  There are lots of addresses in Minnesota and in Louisiana
that could be either east or west of the Mississippi River.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace">Random wonderings.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, M=
ar 28, 2022 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishpl=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I seem to recall that t=
hey don&#39;t ship across the Mississippi.=C2=A0 East is east, and west is =
west....</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:monospace">I wonder how they figured out whether the addre=
ss was east or west of the Mississippi.=C2=A0 There are lots of addresses i=
n Minnesota and in Louisiana that could be either east or west of the Missi=
ssippi River.</div></div></div>

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From: Shannah Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 14:56:22 -0800

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My experience is with a whole car.  I used Sherpa Auto Transport,
and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do the
shipping.  Mine with through AT Transport.

I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,
but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the
condition it was picked up.

I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but maybe
Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in crates.

Shannah

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim . <[email-masked]=
om>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.
>
> I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know
> is if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.
>
> thanks
> tim
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My experience is with a whole car.=C2=A0 I used Sherp=
a Auto Transport,</div><div>and what they do is use subcontractors to actua=
lly do the</div><div>shipping.=C2=A0 Mine with through AT Transport.</div><=
div><br></div><div>I didn&#39;t like the delay involved with them finding a=
 shipper,</div><div>but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the=
</div><div>condition it was picked up.</div><div><br></div><div>I get that =
you&#39;re not transporting a whole car, but maybe</div><div>Sherpa has a s=
ubcontractor who ships car parts in crates.</div><div><br></div><div>Shanna=
h</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim =
. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tims_datsun_stuff@ou=
tlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-2099723103669278982">

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:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hi all,=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know i=
s if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
</div>

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From: "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 00:43:46 +0000

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From: Shannah Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2025 17:40:11 -0800

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I'm sorry.  It didn't occur to me to double check the date.  I wonder if
there was a server reset or something?

Shannah

On Sun, Nov 9, 2025, 4:43=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> This is just bizarrely popping up right now.
>
> My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Shannah Miller <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM
> *To:* Tim . <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook=
.com>
> is if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.

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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m sorry.=C2=A0 It didn&#39;t occur to me to double =
check the date.=C2=A0 I wonder if there was a server reset or something?<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Shannah=C2=A0</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sun, Nov 9, 2025, 4:43=E2=80=AFPM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
This is just bizarrely popping up right now.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.=C2=A0</div>
<div id=3D"m_-391653110764910114appendonsend"></div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-391653110764910114divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
Shannah Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>My experience is with a whole car.=C2=A0 I used Sherpa Auto Transport,=
</div>
<div>and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do the</div>
<div>shipping.=C2=A0 Mine with through AT Transport.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I didn&#39;t like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,</div=
<div>but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the</div>
<div>condition it was picked up.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I get that you&#39;re not transporting a whole car, but maybe</div>
<div>Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in crates.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Shannah</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim . &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hi all,=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know i=
s if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
</div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 11:51:12 +0000 (UTC)

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Stuck in a spam filter somewhere.=C2=A0 Remember, Mark gets 1000+ emails re=
quiring moderator involvement.=C2=A0 And that's just what gets past the aut=
omated spam filter.
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    On Sunday, November 9, 2025 at 10:39:14 PM CST, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuf=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 This is just bizarrely popping up right now.=C2=A0
My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.=C2=A0From: Shannah Miller <=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM
To: Tim . <[email-masked]>
Cc: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid=C2=A0My experience is wi=
th a whole car.=C2=A0 I used Sherpa Auto Transport,and what they do is use =
subcontractors to actually do theshipping.=C2=A0 Mine with through AT Trans=
port.
I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,but everything=
 went smoothly and the car arrived in thecondition it was picked up.
I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but maybeSherpa has a subco=
ntractor who ships car parts in crates.
Shannah
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim . <[email-masked]=
om> wrote:

Hi all,=C2=A0
Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.=C2=A0
I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know i=
s if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.=C2=A0
thankstim_______________________________________________

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This is just bizarrely popping up right now.&nbsp;</div>
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My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.&nbsp;</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
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<div>My experience is with a whole car.&nbsp; I used Sherpa Auto Transport,=
</div>
<div>and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do the</div>
<div>shipping.&nbsp; Mine with through AT Transport.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,</div>
<div>but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the</div>
<div>condition it was picked up.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but maybe</div>
<div>Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in crates.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Shannah</div>
</div>
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 28, 2022 at 10:09=E2=80=AFAM Tim . &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ti=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tims_datsun=
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Hi all,&nbsp;</div>
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Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know i=
s if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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