Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 08:21:05 -0500

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Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if i=
t happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhon=
e & I think from Thunderbird.=20

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]> wr=
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My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs=20

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=
=80=99t taken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99=
t use outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think from Thunderbird.&nbsp;<div>=
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ok.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
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I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into =
my spam folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)  =
This thread is a good example.  I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my =
inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. =20

> On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> =
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> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to =
see if it happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but =
from my iPhone & I think from Thunderbird.=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I=E2=80=99d =
say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my spam =
folder. &nbsp;(Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.) =
&nbsp;This thread is a good example. &nbsp;I got Pat=E2=80=99s response =
in my inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. =
&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type"=
 content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"auto">Mine does too, =
most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if it happens =
with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhone =
&amp; I think from Thunderbird.&nbsp;<div><br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat =
Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for =
Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 1, 2025, =
at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. =
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From: John T Blair <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 14:54:16 +0000 (UTC)

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Speaking of email, and the knowledge of this group, I have a question about=
 email. With all the very savvy people in this group I'm hoping someone wor=
ks in IT and understands email.
My email address is [email-masked].=C2=A0 When I got my Cox account som=
e 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my email went =
to their servers.=C2=A0 I was using Eudora at the time and POP mail.=C2=A0 =
Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for their customers an=
d passed it on to Yahoo.=C2=A0 However, I still use my old cox.net email ad=
dress but to get my mail I have to log into Yahoo instead of logging into C=
ox.
So is this now like the cell phones where you can carry your email address =
with you or is my email going to cox and then forwarded to Yahoo?
The reason I'm asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon c=
an I get my email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required to ge=
t a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP's email?
JohnT,
John T. Blair=C2=A0 WA4OHZ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 email:=C2=A0 jblair1948@=
cox.netVa. Beach, Va=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Phone:=C2=A0 (757) 495-822=
9

48 TR1800=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 48 #4 Midget=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 65 Morgan 4/4 Se=
ries V (B1106)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 77 Spitf=
ire=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 71 Saab Sonett III
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 65 Rambler Classi=
c

Morgan:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://autox.team.net/morgan/

Bricklin:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.bricklin.org

If you can read this=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Thank a teacher!
If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!

>From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In God We Trust
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Liberty - the=C2=A0 power=C2=A0 of=C2=A0 choosing,=
=C2=A0 thinking,=C2=A0 and=C2=A0 acting=C2=A0 for=C2=A0=20
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 oneself; freedom=C2=A0 from=C2=A0 control=C2=A0=
 or=C2=A0 restriction=C2=A0=20

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    On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, Jim Stone <1789alpine=
@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my =
spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.) =C2=
=A0This thread is a good example. =C2=A0I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my =
inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. =C2=A0

On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if=
 it happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iP=
hone & I think from Thunderbird.=C2=A0
Pat Horne=C2=A0We support Habitat for Humanity

On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

=EF=BB=BFMy own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every tim=
e. Ffs=C2=A0
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp1d40d900yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Speaking of email, and the k=
nowledge of this group, I have a question about email. With all the very sa=
vvy people in this group I'm hoping someone works in IT and understands ema=
il.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">My email address is [email-masked].&nbsp; When I =
got my Cox account some 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and suppo=
rt, ie. my email went to their servers.&nbsp; I was using Eudora at the tim=
e and POP mail.&nbsp; Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email =
for their customers and passed it on to Yahoo.&nbsp; However, I still use m=
y old cox.net email address but to get my mail I have to log into Yahoo ins=
tead of logging into Cox.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">So is this now like the cell ph=
ones where you can carry your email address with you or is my email going t=
o cox and then forwarded to Yahoo?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
se"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The reason I'm asking =
is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon can I get my email send=
 to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required to get a new email address =
at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP's email?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">JohnT,=
</div><div class=3D"ydp1d40d900signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=3D"ydpca89bbc=
3pasted-link"><br><div>
John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp; jblair1948@=
cox.net</div>
Va. Beach, Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phone:&nbsp; (757) 495-8229<br><br=
48 TR1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4 Se=
ries V (B1106)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 77 Spitf=
ire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71 Saab Sonett III<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Rambler Classi=
c<br><br>
Morgan:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/morgan/" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/morgan/<br><br>
</a>Bricklin:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.bricklin.org/" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bricklin.org<br><br>
</a>If you can read this&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Thank a teacher!<br>
If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!<br><br>
>From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In God We Trust<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberty - the&nbsp; power&nbsp; of&nbsp; choosing,=
&nbsp; thinking,&nbsp; and&nbsp; acting&nbsp; for&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; oneself; freedom&nbsp; from&nbsp; control&nbsp;=
 or&nbsp; restriction&nbsp; <br><br>
<br>
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                        On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, J=
im Stone &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975"><div>I=E2=80=99d =
say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my spam folder. =
&nbsp;(Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.) &nbsp;This thread =
is a good example. &nbsp;I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Ti=
m=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. &nbsp;<br id=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7=
883655975lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage" clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqtfd70473=
" class=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqt7901005622"><div>On Nov 1, 2025, at 9=
:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br cla=
ss=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975Apple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><di=
v></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975y=
qtfd18559" class=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqt7901005622"><div><div>Mine d=
oes too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if it ha=
ppens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhone &=
amp; I think from Thunderbird.&nbsp;<div><br id=3D"ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975=
lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&=
nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=
=AFAM, Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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I use Thunderbird and exactly the opposite happened! Tim's original in 
my inbox and Pat and Jim went to the junk folder.

Thunderbird's junk identification is supposed to learn from the 
corrections I make, and for a while the behavior improved. But it's 
inconsistent.

I have a bunch of filters set up to try to control the behavior that 
live on my desktop, which is always on and processing email. I use the 
imap version so that the server holds all the stuff; that way I can see 
the results on my phone and laptops. Even so, the results are still 
inconsistent but at least I'm seeing the same thing on each device..

Jim Juhas

On 11/1/2025 9:51 AM, Jim Stone wrote:
> I’d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my spam 
> folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)  This 
> thread is a good example.  I got Pat’s response in my inbox, while 
> Tim’s original was in my junk folder.
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>> On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21 AM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven’t taken the time to see if 
>> it happens with all my emails, I don’t use outlook, but from my 
>> iPhone & I think from Thunderbird.
>>
>> Pat Horne
>> On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08 AM, Tim . <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs
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    I use Thunderbird and exactly the opposite happened! Tim's original
    in my inbox and Pat and Jim went to the junk folder.<br>
    <br>
    Thunderbird's junk identification is supposed to learn from the
    corrections I make, and for a while the behavior improved. But it's
    inconsistent. <br>
    <br>
    I have a bunch of filters set up to try to control the behavior that
    live on my desktop, which is always on and processing email. I use
    the imap version so that the server holds all the stuff; that way I
    can see the results on my phone and laptops. Even so, the results
    are still inconsistent but at least I'm seeing the same thing on
    each device..<br>
    <br>
    Jim Juhas
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      I’d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my
      spam folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)
       This thread is a good example.  I got Pat’s response in my inbox,
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            <div dir="auto">Mine does too, most of the time. I haven’t
              taken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I
              don’t use outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think from
              Thunderbird. 
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                  On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08 AM, Tim .
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Unfortunately email does not work like phone numbers.  The domain name "
cox.net" is the property of the company hosting the domain.  In this case,
Cox sold that name to Yahoo, so you got to keep it.  If you change to a new
email provider, you won't be able to keep the old address.  But you
probably CAN get a new email provider, keep the old one, and just forward
all the mail from Yahoo to whatever new provider you choose.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=AFAM John T Blair <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> Speaking of email, and the knowledge of this group, I have a question
> about email. With all the very savvy people in this group I'm hoping
> someone works in IT and understands email.
>
> My email address is [email-masked].  When I got my Cox account some
> 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my email went =
to
> their servers.  I was using Eudora at the time and POP mail.  Then about =
2
> to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for their customers and passed it
> on to Yahoo.  However, I still use my old cox.net email address but to
> get my mail I have to log into Yahoo instead of logging into Cox.
>
> So is this now like the cell phones where you can carry your email addres=
s
> The reason I'm asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon
> can I get my email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required to
> get a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP's email=
?
>
> JohnT,
>
> John T. Blair  WA4OHZ     email:  [email-masked]
> Va. Beach, Va                  Phone:  (757) 495-8229
>
> 48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget    65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, Jim Stone <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into my=
 spam
> folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)  This thread =
is
> a good example.  I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Tim=E2=
=80=99s original was
> in my junk folder.
>
> On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>
> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see =
if it
> happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPho=
ne & I
> think from Thunderbird.
> On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Unfortunately email does not work like phone numbers.=C2=
=A0 The domain name &quot;<a href=3D"http://cox.net">cox.net</a>&quot; is t=
he property of the company hosting the domain.=C2=A0 In this case, Cox sold=
 that name to Yahoo, so you got to keep it.=C2=A0 If you change to a new em=
ail provider, you won&#39;t be able to keep the old address.=C2=A0 But you =
probably CAN get a new email provider, keep the old one, and just forward a=
ll the mail from Yahoo to whatever new provider you choose.</div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=AFAM John T Blair &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Speaking of email, and the knowledge of this group, I have a question =
about email. With all the very savvy people in this group I&#39;m hoping so=
meone works in IT and understands email.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">My email address is <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>.=C2=A0 When I got my Cox account som=
e 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my email went =
to their servers.=C2=A0 I was using Eudora at the time and POP mail.=C2=A0 =
Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for their customers an=
d passed it on to Yahoo.=C2=A0 However, I still use my old <a href=3D"http:=
//cox.net" target=3D"_blank">cox.net</a> email address but to get my mail I=
 have to log into Yahoo instead of logging into Cox.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So is this now like the cell phones where you ca=
n carry your email address with you or is my email going to cox and then fo=
rwarded to Yahoo?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The reas=
on I&#39;m asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon can I=
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new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP&#39;s email?</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JohnT,</div><div><div dir=3D=
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John T. Blair=C2=A0 WA4OHZ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 email:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In God We Trust<br>
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[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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nto my spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed through Apple&#39;s Mail =
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If I understand the question correctly, when you add a new email account at
a new vendor, the email account name will need to be unique to that
platform, so you will most likely need to have a different email address
(e.g., [email-masked] may be able to be [email-masked], but probably that
account already is used. You might need to add some numbers
[email-masked] or add your last name and middle initial
[email-masked], etc.).

What you can do, however, is just retain your old email account (e.g.,
[email-masked]) and configure it with auto-forward with delete to your
new email address.

This way, all email sent to your old address will still be delivered to
your new address, and you can send email from your new address.

Over time, it just gradually migrates your email to the new account while
preserving your old account (i.e., people will see the new "sending
address" when they receive your email and will reply to it). You
will, however, need to register the new address with lists and forums
you participate in.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 8:36=E2=80=AFAM John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> cox.net" is the property of the company hosting the domain.  In this
> case, Cox sold that name to Yahoo, so you got to keep it.  If you change =
to
> a new email provider, you won't be able to keep the old address.  But you
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=AFAM John T Blair <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>> 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my email went=
 to
>> their servers.  I was using Eudora at the time and POP mail.  Then about=
 2
>> to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for their customers and passed i=
t
>> So is this now like the cell phones where you can carry your email
>> address with you or is my email going to cox and then forwarded to Yahoo=
?
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizo=
n
>> can I get my email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required t=
o
>> get a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP's emai=
l?
>> I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go into m=
y spam
>> folder.  (Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.)  This thread=
 is
=80=99s original was
>> in my junk folder.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>>
>> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see=
 if it
>> happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPh=
one & I
>> On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&ut=
m_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail&utm_term=3Dicon> Virus-free.
>> www.avast.com
>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&ut=
m_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail&utm_term=3Dlink>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If =
I understand the question correctly, when you add a new email account at a =
new vendor, the email account=C2=A0name will need to be unique to that plat=
form, so you will most likely need to have a different email address (e.g.,=
 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> may be able to be <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>, but probably that account alre=
ady is used. You might need to add some numbers <a href=3D"mailto:bob1234@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a> or add your last name and middle initial <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>, etc=
.).</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">What you can do, howe=
ver, is just retain your old email account (e.g., <a href=3D"mailto:bob@cox=
.net">[email-masked]</a>) and configure it with auto-forward with delete to yo=
ur new=C2=A0email address.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">This way, all email sent to your old address=C2=A0will still be delivered=
 to your new address, and you can send email from your new address.=C2=A0</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Over time, it just gradual=
ly migrates your email to the new account while preserving your old account=
 (i.e., people will see the new &quot;sending address&quot; when they recei=
ve=C2=A0your email and=C2=A0will reply=C2=A0to=C2=A0it). You will,=C2=A0how=
ever, need=C2=A0to register the=C2=A0new address with lists and forums you=
=C2=A0participate=C2=A0in.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_q=
uote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 a=
t 8:36=E2=80=AFAM John Innis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jdinn=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Unfortunately email does not work like phone n=
umbers.=C2=A0 The domain name &quot;<a href=3D"http://cox.net" target=3D"_b=
lank">cox.net</a>&quot; is the property of the company hosting the domain.=
=C2=A0 In this case, Cox sold that name to Yahoo, so you got to keep it.=C2=
=A0 If you change to a new email provider, you won&#39;t be able to keep th=
e old address.=C2=A0 But you probably CAN get a new email provider, keep th=
e old one, and just forward all the mail from Yahoo to whatever new provide=
r you choose.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=AFAM John T Blair &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><=
div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Speaking of email, and the knowle=
dge of this group, I have a question about email. With all the very savvy p=
eople in this group I&#39;m hoping someone works in IT and understands emai=
l.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My email address is <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
.=C2=A0 When I got my Cox account some 15 yrs ago, they were providing the =
email and support, ie. my email went to their servers.=C2=A0 I was using Eu=
dora at the time and POP mail.=C2=A0 Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped=
 hosting email for their customers and passed it on to Yahoo.=C2=A0 However=
, I still use my old <a href=3D"http://cox.net" target=3D"_blank">cox.net</=
a> email address but to get my mail I have to log into Yahoo instead of log=
ging into Cox.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So is this =
now like the cell phones where you can carry your email address with you or=
 is my email going to cox and then forwarded to Yahoo?</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The reason I&#39;m asking is, that if I change=
 my ISP from Cox to say Verizon can I get my email send to Verizon or even =
Gmail or will I be required to get a new email address at either Gmail or w=
ho ever is my new ISP&#39;s email?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
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                        On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, J=
im Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">1789=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"m_4288852458065674287m_480834969856671703yd=
p6ce39c23yiv7883655975"><div>I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails=
 from this group go into my spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed thro=
ugh Apple&#39;s Mail App.) =C2=A0This thread is a good example.=C2=A0 I got=
 Pat=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my=
 junk folder. =C2=A0<br id=3D"m_4288852458065674287m_480834969856671703ydp6=
ce39c23yiv7883655975lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage" clear=3D"none"><div><br =
clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"m_4288852458065674287m_=
480834969856671703ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqtfd70473"><div>On Nov 1, 2025, =
at 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"m_4288852458065674=
287m_480834969856671703ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqtfd18559"><div><div>Mine d=
oes too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if it ha=
ppens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhone &=
amp; I think from Thunderbird.=C2=A0<div><br id=3D"m_4288852458065674287m_4=
80834969856671703ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" c=
lear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for H=
umanity</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none">On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have email accounts @ several sites that I=
 forward to a single gmail account, primarily for spam filtering, then have t=
he gmail account forwarded to my iCloud account. If I decide to go with a di=
fferent provider other than iCloud, I only have to change one forwarding add=
ress.&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat H=
orne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 1, 2025, at 10:43=E2=80=AFAM, John Innis &lt;jdinni=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"lt=
r">Unfortunately email does not work like phone numbers.&nbsp; The domain na=
me "<a href=3D"http://cox.net">cox.net</a>" is the property of the company h=
osting the domain.&nbsp; In this case, Cox sold that name to Yahoo, so you g=
ot to keep it.&nbsp; If you change to a new email provider, you won't be abl=
e to keep the old address.&nbsp; But you probably CAN get a new email provid=
er, keep the old one, and just forward all the mail from Yahoo to whatever n=
ew provider you choose.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_conta=
iner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 10:06=E2=80=
=AFAM John T Blair &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jblair1948@cox.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Speaking of email, and the knowledge of t=
his group, I have a question about email. With all the very savvy people in t=
his group I'm hoping someone works in IT and understands email.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My email address is <a href=3D"mailto:j=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>.&nbsp; When I go=
t my Cox account some 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support,=
 ie. my email went to their servers.&nbsp; I was using Eudora at the time an=
d POP mail.&nbsp; Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for t=
heir customers and passed it on to Yahoo.&nbsp; However, I still use my old <=
a href=3D"http://cox.net" target=3D"_blank">cox.net</a> email address but to=
 get my mail I have to log into Yahoo instead of logging into Cox.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So is this now like the cell phones w=
here you can carry your email address with you or is my email going to cox a=
nd then forwarded to Yahoo?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>The reason I'm asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon c=
an I get my email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required to get=
 a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my new ISP's email?</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JohnT,</div><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><br>=
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John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp; <a href=3D"m=
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Va. Beach, Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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48 TR1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4 Ser=
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</a>If you can read this&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!<br><br>
=46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:<br>
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                        On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, Ji=
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"><div>I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from this group go int=
o my spam folder. &nbsp;(Gmail address accessed through Apple's Mail App.) &=
nbsp;This thread is a good example.&nbsp; I got Pat=E2=80=99s response in my=
 inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my junk folder. &nbsp;<br id=3D"=
m_480834969856671703ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage" c=
lear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div id=3D"m=
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t 9:21=E2=80=AFAM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none"=
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p6ce39c23yiv7883655975yqtfd18559"><div><div>Mine does too, most of the time.=
 I haven=E2=80=99t taken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I=
 don=E2=80=99t use outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think from Thunderbir=
d.&nbsp;<div><br id=3D"m_480834969856671703ydp6ce39c23yiv7883655975lineBreak=
AtBeginningOfSignature" clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>=
We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tims_d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
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Something changed about a month ago with Earthlink, my primary e-mail 
provider.  Much of the list traffic is now blocked and I have to go to 
online webmail and in my spam folder, say it isn't spam.  I notice some 
e-mail replies for original messages I never saw. Earthlink has 
completely killed all Harbor Freight e-mails, even after adding the 
various sending addresses to my whitelist filter.

Related to recent messages, good thing I have a Cox address to get past 
Earthlink's limitations.

Brian

> My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs
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    Something changed about a month ago with Earthlink, my primary
    e-mail provider.  Much of the list traffic is now blocked and I have
    to go to online webmail and in my spam folder, say it isn't spam.  I
    notice some e-mail replies for original messages I never saw. 
    Earthlink has completely killed all Harbor Freight e-mails, even
    after adding the various sending addresses to my whitelist filter.<br>
    <br>
    Related to recent messages, good thing I have a Cox address to get
    past Earthlink's limitations.<br>
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John - I have a cox.net address from when I got Cox internet, as does my 
wife.  When Cox got out of the e-mail business, they transferred the 
accounts to Yahoo.  This means your internet and e-mail are via 
different unrelated companies.  Per their FAQ at the time, you can keep 
your Cox.net e-mail even if you no longer have Cox internet.

My Cox address is a secondary address and I only check it with 
Thunderbird on a PC.  It was challenging to get Thunderbird to work 
properly because some obscure setting needed to be set, but now it works 
great.

My wife uses Cox as her only e-mail and uses the Yahoo webmail site on a 
PC and the Yahoo app on her phone.

You can likely set Cox to autoforward, but I'd just have separate inbox 
in something like Thunderbird or Outlook to have both e-mails.

Brian

On 11/1/2025 7:54 AM, John T Blair wrote:
> My email address is [email-masked].  When I got my Cox account 
> some 15 yrs ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my 
> email went to their servers.  I was using Eudora at the time and POP 
> mail.  Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting email for their 
> customers and passed it on to Yahoo. However, I still use my old 
> cox.net email address but to get my mail I have to log into Yahoo 
> instead of logging into Cox.
>
> address with you or is my email going to cox and then forwarded to Yahoo?
>
> The reason I'm asking is, that if I change my ISP from Cox to say 
> Verizon can I get my email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be 
> required to get a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my 
> new ISP's email?
>
> JohnT,
>
> <http://autox.team.net/morgan/>Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org
>
> <http://www.bricklin.org/>If you can read this             - Thank a 
> teacher!
> On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 10:01:20 AM EDT, Jim Stone 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>
> Mine does too, most of the time. I haven’t taken the time to see if it 
> happens with all my emails, I don’t use outlook, but from my iPhone & 
> I think from Thunderbird.
>
> Pat Horne
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    John - I have a cox.net address from when I got Cox internet, as
    does my wife.  When Cox got out of the e-mail business, they
    transferred the accounts to Yahoo.  This means your internet and
    e-mail are via different unrelated companies.  Per their FAQ at the
    time, you can keep your Cox.net e-mail even if you no longer have
    Cox internet.<br>
    <br>
    My Cox address is a secondary address and I only check it with
    Thunderbird on a PC.  It was challenging to get Thunderbird to work
    properly because some obscure setting needed to be set, but now it
    works great.<br>
    <br>
    My wife uses Cox as her only e-mail and uses the Yahoo webmail site
    on a PC and the Yahoo app on her phone.<br>
    <br>
    You can likely set Cox to autoforward, but I'd just have separate
    inbox in something like Thunderbird or Outlook to have both
    e-mails.  <br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Speaking of email, and the
            knowledge of this group, I have a question about email. With
            all the very savvy people in this group I'm hoping someone
            works in IT and understands email.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">My email address is
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>.  When I got my Cox account some 15 yrs
            ago, they were providing the email and support, ie. my email
            went to their servers.  I was using Eudora at the time and
            POP mail.  Then about 2 to 3 yrs ago, Cox stopped hosting
            email for their customers and passed it on to Yahoo. 
            However, I still use my old cox.net email address but to get
            my mail I have to log into Yahoo instead of logging into
            Cox.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So is this now like the
            cell phones where you can carry your email address with you
            or is my email going to cox and then forwarded to Yahoo?</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The reason I'm asking is,
            that if I change my ISP from Cox to say Verizon can I get my
            email send to Verizon or even Gmail or will I be required to
            get a new email address at either Gmail or who ever is my
            new ISP's email?</div>
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                     e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."<br>
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                    don’t use outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think
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There literally is much more spam being sent than legitimate emails and the
email providers have had to get more aggressive with their filtering. The
spammers continually evolve their messages real-time to look like
legitimate email, and then the legitimate emails start to look more like
spam and get caught-up in the filters at the domain level as well as at the
individual inbox level.

I was the CIO at the University of Southern California and we received over
30 million emails each day with 90+% of them being phishes, spams, sales,
etc. It almost is like extortion as we needed to keep buying more and more
spam processing hardware just to filter through all of the junk mail being
sent at us quickly enough to find and deliver the legitimate email in a
timely manner.

So what happens, unfortunately, is that there are false-positives and some
non-zero amount of legitimate email will not be delivered as it was
filtered at the domain-level, and some delivered email will be flagged as
spam and sent to your junk email folders.

Email from the same sender may get tagged as spam today and a different
email from that same sender was delivered last week because the filters are
constantly adapting the the emails they are processing at the time (e.g.,
because of other spam being sent that day, the content of a sender's
message may hit the probability level to get flagged even though you have
received email from that same person yesterday). It really has less to do
with the sender or the content of their message than it does with what the
spammers are doing at the same time when the filters are making the
comparisons.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 4:01=E2=80=AFPM Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

> Jim,
>
>
>
> It=E2=80=99s been like this for years. Unless it was another list, I seem=
 to
> recall that at one point mjb did something to remedy it, but it=E2=80=99s=
 for some
> reason, it seems to have slipped back into someone=E2=80=99s bad graces a=
nd gets
> nailed as junk by Outlook, even with my junk settings on =E2=80=9CLow=E2=
=80=9D. A huge
> number of our members, as well as the list name are on my Safe recipient
> list, but the emails still get tagged.  I don=E2=80=99t know what the ans=
wer is.
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Stone
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 1, 2025 7:52 AM
> *To:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook
>
>
>
 spam
is
=80=99s original was
if it
ne & I
> My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The=
re literally is much more spam being sent than legitimate emails and the em=
ail providers have had to get more aggressive with their filtering. The spa=
mmers continually evolve their messages real-time to look like legitimate e=
mail, and then the legitimate emails start to look more like spam and get c=
aught-up in the filters at the domain level as well as at the individual in=
box level.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I was the CIO =
at the University of Southern=C2=A0California and we received over 30 milli=
on emails each day with 90+% of them being phishes, spams, sales, etc. It a=
lmost is like extortion as we needed to keep buying=C2=A0more and more spam=
 processing hardware just to filter through all of the junk mail being sent=
 at us quickly enough to find and deliver the=C2=A0legitimate email in a ti=
mely=C2=A0manner.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-siz=
e:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">S=
o what happens, unfortunately, is that there are false-positives and some n=
on-zero amount of legitimate=C2=A0email will not be delivered as it was fil=
tered at the domain-level, and some delivered=C2=A0email will be flagged as=
 spam and sent to your junk email folders.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small">Email from the same sender may get tagged as spam t=
oday and a different email from that same sender was delivered last week be=
cause the filters are constantly adapting the the emails they are processin=
g at the time (e.g., because of other spam being sent that day, the content=
 of a sender&#39;s message may hit the probability level to get flagged eve=
n though you have received email from that same person yesterday). It reall=
y has less to do with the sender or the content of their message than it do=
es with what the spammers are doing at the same time when=C2=A0the filters =
are making the comparisons.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
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ainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 4:01=E2=
=80=AFPM Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">JIBrooks@live=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div class=3D"msg166059182658729795">

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<div class=3D"m_166059182658729795WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">Jim,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">It=E2=80=99s been like this for years. Unless it was another list=
, I seem to recall that at one point mjb did something to remedy it, but it=
=E2=80=99s for some reason, it seems to have slipped back into
 someone=E2=80=99s bad graces and gets nailed as junk by Outlook, even with=
 my junk settings on =E2=80=9CLow=E2=80=9D. A huge number of our members, a=
s well as the list name are on my Safe recipient list, but the emails still=
 get tagged.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know what the answer is.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">Jack<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Stone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 1, 2025 7:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from =
this group go into my spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed through Ap=
ple&#39;s Mail App.) =C2=A0This thread is a good example.=C2=A0 I got Pat=
=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my jun=
k folder.
 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21<span style=3D"font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patinte=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t t=
aken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use =
outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think from Thunderbird.=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Pat Horne=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We support Habitat for Humanity<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br>
On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=E2=80=
=AF</span>AM, Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">=EF=BB=
=BF</span> <u></u>
<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My ow=
n email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time. Ffs=C2=A0<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&lt;i=
mage.png&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">_______________________=
________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
//www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a>
<a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.te=
am.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">_______________________=
________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
//www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a>
<a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.te=
am.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><u>=
</u><u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>

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From: Larry Spector <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 20:03:40 -0400

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It's not just outlook. I have a similar problem with Gmail and had to add
rules to keep this list out of my spam folder.

-Larry

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nd gets
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wer is.
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=80=99s original was
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<div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s not just outlook. I have a similar problem with =
Gmail and had to add rules to keep this list out of my spam folder.<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">-Larry=C2=A0</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025, 7:06=E2=80=AFPM Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:J=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D"word-wrap:b=
reak-word">
<div class=3D"m_193019632320912503WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">Jim,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">It=E2=80=99s been like this for years. Unless it was another list=
, I seem to recall that at one point mjb did something to remedy it, but it=
=E2=80=99s for some reason, it seems to have slipped back into
 someone=E2=80=99s bad graces and gets nailed as junk by Outlook, even with=
 my junk settings on =E2=80=9CLow=E2=80=9D. A huge number of our members, a=
s well as the list name are on my Safe recipient list, but the emails still=
 get tagged.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know what the answer is.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">Jack<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">sh=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Stone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 1, 2025 7:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99d say about 1/3 to 1/2 of all emails from =
this group go into my spam folder. =C2=A0(Gmail address accessed through Ap=
ple&#39;s Mail App.) =C2=A0This thread is a good example.=C2=A0 I got Pat=
=E2=80=99s response in my inbox, while Tim=E2=80=99s original was in my jun=
k folder.
 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Nov 1, 2025, at 9:21<span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">patintexas=
@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mine does too, most of the time. I haven=E2=80=99t t=
aken the time to see if it happens with all my emails, I don=E2=80=99t use =
outlook, but from my iPhone &amp; I think from Thunderbird.=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Pat Horne=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We support Habitat for Humanity<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Nov 1, 2025, at 8:08<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM, Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outl=
ook.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-s=
erif">=EF=BB=BF</span> <u></u>
<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif">My own email to this group goes into my junk mail folder every time.=
 Ffs=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif">&lt;image.png&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">_____________________=
__________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
=3D"noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a>
<a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">_____________________=
__________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
=3D"noreferrer">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a>
<a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><u>=
</u><u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>

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rrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
errer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3D"norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</=
a> <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><br>
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alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
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You all are lucky, there are filters on incoming team net emails.  I 
currently have1,569 messages I need to go through, passing on 
legitimate, if any, emails and discarding the rest.  Sometimes running 
these lists is not so fun.

A quick snapshotof my inbox, showing some of the lists.

mjb.

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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2025 07:35:18 -0600

Thanks, Mark for all you have to go through to keep the lists going, I hope you can get on top of this. Would it make sense to only allow emails from registered members to be passed through, Iike a white list? I’m not even sure if that’s possible. 

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne 

On Nov 2, 2025, at 1:40 AM, Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:

You all are lucky, there are filters on incoming team net emails.  I currently have1,569 messages I need to go through, passing on legitimate, if any, emails and discarding the rest.  Sometimes running these lists is not so fun.

mjb.

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Holy shite
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Mark Bradak=
is <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2025 1:27 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook

mjb.

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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-ta=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Mark Bradakis &lt;mark@bradakis.=
com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 2, 2025 1:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook</font>
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legitimate, if any, emails and discarding the rest.&nbsp; Sometimes running=
 <br>
these lists is not so fun.<br>
<br>
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mjb.<br>
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When I retired, my goal was to have at least 10,000 unread emails in my
inbox.   I reached that goal easily.

And yet, everything is going along fine despite the lack of any replies.

On Sun, Nov 2, 2025 at 11:48=E2=80=AFAM Tim . <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:

> Holy shite
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Mark
> Bradakis <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 2, 2025 1:27 AM
> *To:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">When I retired, my goal was to have at least 10,000 unread=
 emails in my inbox.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I reached that goal easily.<br><br>And yet=
, everything is going along fine despite the lack of any replies.</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 2, 2025 at 11:48=E2=80=AFAM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=
=3D"msg-8595484118162049160">

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:rgb(0,0,0)">
Holy shite</div>
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<div id=3D"m_-8595484118162049160divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"C=
alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
 Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Mark Brad=
akis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mark@bradak=
is.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 2, 2025 1:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sh=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] gotto love outlook</font>
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<div>You all are lucky, there are filters on incoming team net emails.=C2=
=A0 I
<br>
currently have1,569 messages I need to go through, passing on <br>
legitimate, if any, emails and discarding the rest.=C2=A0 Sometimes running=
 <br>
these lists is not so fun.<br>
<br>
A quick snapshotof my inbox, showing some of the lists.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
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alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.=
team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>

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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 19:33:52 +0000

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