Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:31:11 -0600

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Decades ago we rebooted a backup server &am=
p; thousands of emails were sent that had been stuck on it, some for years. =
Funny thing was that we weren=E2=80=99t using that server for email, so we n=
ever looked for any.&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br>=
</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 10, 2025, at 8:12=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
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Please, don't think I was complaining in any way shape or form.&nbsp;</div>
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It was funny to me.&nbsp;</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 6:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shannah Miller &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
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This is just bizarrely popping up right now.&nbsp;</div>
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My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.&nbsp;</div>
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olor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Shannah Miller &lt;sh=
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
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<div>My experience is with a whole car.&nbsp; I used Sherpa Auto Transport,<=
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<div>and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do the</div>
<div>shipping.&nbsp; Mine with through AT Transport.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,</div>
<div>but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the</div>
<div>condition it was picked up.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but maybe</div>
<div>Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in crates.</div>
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<div>Shannah</div>
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[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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Hi all,&nbsp;</div>
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Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.&nbsp;</div>
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I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need to know is=
 if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.&nbsp;</div>
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thanks</div>
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tim</div>
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You do know that computers run on magic..............

On 11/10/25 6:31 AM, Pat Horne wrote:
> Decades ago we rebooted a backup server & thousands of emails were 
> sent that had been stuck on it, some for years. Funny thing was that 
> we weren’t using that server for email, so we never looked for any.
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2025, at 8:12 AM, Tim . <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> 
> Please, don't think I was complaining in any way shape or form.
>
> It was funny to me.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tim 
> . <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2025 6:43 PM
> *To:* Shannah Miller <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid
> This is just bizarrely popping up right now.
>
> My inquiry was from three and a half years ago.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Shannah Miller <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM
> *To:* Tim . <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid
> My experience is with a whole car.  I used Sherpa Auto Transport,
> and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do the
> shipping.  Mine with through AT Transport.
>
> I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a shipper,
> but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in the
> condition it was picked up.
>
> I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but maybe
> Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in crates.
>
> Shannah
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:09 AM Tim . <[email-masked]> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long Beach.
>
>     I can go online easily enough to get shipping quotes. What I need
>     to know is if there are shippers to absolutely avoid.
>
>     thanks
>     tim
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    <p><font size="2" face="Tahoma">You do know that computers run on
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/25 6:31 AM, Pat Horne wrote:<br>
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      Decades ago we rebooted a backup server &amp; thousands of emails
      were sent that had been stuck on it, some for years. Funny thing
      was that we weren’t using that server for email, so we never
      looked for any. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
      <div dir="ltr">Pat Horne 
        <div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        On Nov 10, 2025, at 8:12 AM, Tim .
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
          Please, don't think I was complaining in any way shape or
          form. </div>
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style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
          It was funny to me. </div>
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            face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"
            color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> on behalf of Tim .
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 6:43 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Shannah Miller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
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            This is just bizarrely popping up right now. </div>
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            My inquiry was from three and a half years ago. </div>
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          <div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font
              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"
              style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Shannah Miller
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 9, 2025 4:56 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tim . <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Freight shippers to avoid</font>
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              <div>My experience is with a whole car.  I used Sherpa
                Auto Transport,</div>
              <div>and what they do is use subcontractors to actually do
                the</div>
              <div>shipping.  Mine with through AT Transport.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I didn't like the delay involved with them finding a
                shipper,</div>
              <div>but everything went smoothly and the car arrived in
                the</div>
              <div>condition it was picked up.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I get that you're not transporting a whole car, but
                maybe</div>
              <div>Sherpa has a subcontractor who ships car parts in
                crates.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Shannah</div>
            </div>
            <br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="x_x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 28, 2022
                at 10:09 AM Tim . &lt;<a
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                wrote:<br>
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                      Hi all, </div>
                    <div
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                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                      Looking to have a crate of engines shipped to Long
                      Beach. </div>
                    <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                      I can go online easily enough to get shipping
                      quotes. What I need to know is if there are
                      shippers to absolutely avoid. </div>
                    <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div
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                      thanks</div>
                    <div
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                      tim</div>
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