Subject: [Shop-talk] flexible tubing

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:33:10 -0500

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OK... time to educate the old man...  I have a need to replace a section of=
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flexible air tubing on a
air bag jack.  I fabricated a new handle to give the jack more reach and th=
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original tubing is too short
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I tried replacing original with H.D. stuff but it was too stiff to  slip ov=
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the fitting... The original tubing
is amber colored and very pliable...squeezes easily between your fingers.. =
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H.D. stuff was stiff
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It press fits over a fitting with a holding nut keeping it in place.  I wou=
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imagine the working pressure
would be around 100#s since most compressors put out that much  =20
It's i.d. is 3/26 and o.d. is 5/16 or
its metric equivalent.  Only markings on the orig is "013M" but I don't=20
think that means `13mm'
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so first question  =E2=80=A6 what type tubing do I need  vinyl ??? PVC ??? =
Polyethylene ????=20
second question  =E2=80=A6 where to find it   """  pics attached
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thanks
john
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">OK... time to educate the old man...&nbsp; I h=
ave a need to replace a section of flexible air tubing on a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">air bag jack.&nbsp; I fabricated a new handle =
to give the jack more reach and the original tubing is too short</FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I tried replacing original with H.D. stuff but=
 it was too stiff to&nbsp; slip over the fitting... The original tubing</FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">is amber colored and very pliable...squeezes e=
asily between your fingers.. the H.D. stuff was stiff</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">It press fits over a fitting with a holding nu=
t keeping it in place.&nbsp; I would imagine the working pressure</FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">would be around 100#s since most compressors p=
ut out that much&nbsp;&nbsp; It's i.d. is 3/26 and o.d. is 5/16 or</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">its metric equivalent.&nbsp; Only markings on =
the orig is "013M" but I don't think that means `13mm'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">so first question&nbsp; =E2=80=A6 what type tu=
bing do I need&nbsp; vinyl ??? PVC ??? Polyethylene ???? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">second question&nbsp; =E2=80=A6 where to find =
it&nbsp;&nbsp; """&nbsp; pics attached</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 17:16:46 -0500

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Can=E2=80=99t help you with what type of tubing to use but you should be abl=
e to find =E2=80=9Cit=E2=80=9D @ McMaster-Carr. Depending on the temperature=
 range you use your jacks in Will help determine what type of tubing to use.=
 Did you check w/a repair shop? I=E2=80=99d suspect nylon but it=E2=80=99s w=
hite & not very flexible.=20

Did you try using a heat gun on the HD stuff to put it on?

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Oct 20, 2025, at 1:47=E2=80=AFPM, john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:

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OK... time to educate the old man...  I have a need to replace a section of f=
lexible air tubing on a
air bag jack.  I fabricated a new handle to give the jack more reach and the=
 original tubing is too short
=20
I tried replacing original with H.D. stuff but it was too stiff to  slip ove=
r the fitting... The original tubing
is amber colored and very pliable...squeezes easily between your fingers.. t=
he H.D. stuff was stiff
=20
It press fits over a fitting with a holding nut keeping it in place.  I woul=
d imagine the working pressure
would be around 100#s since most compressors put out that much   It's i.d. i=
s 3/26 and o.d. is 5/16 or
its metric equivalent.  Only markings on the orig is "013M" but I don't thin=
k that means `13mm'
=20
so first question  =E2=80=A6 what type tubing do I need  vinyl ??? PVC ??? P=
olyethylene ????
second question  =E2=80=A6 where to find it   """  pics attached
=20
thanks
john
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Can=E2=80=99t help you with what type of tu=
bing to use but you should be able to find =E2=80=9Cit=E2=80=9D @ McMaster-C=
arr. Depending on the temperature range you use your jacks in Will help dete=
rmine what type of tubing to use. Did you check w/a repair shop? I=E2=80=99d=
 suspect nylon but it=E2=80=99s white &amp; not very flexible.&nbsp;<div><br=
></div><div>Did you try using a heat gun on the HD stuff to put it on?</div>=
<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&n=
bsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br>On Oct 20, 2025, at 1:47=E2=80=AFPM, john niolon &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">OK... time to educate the old man...&nbsp; I ha=
ve a need to replace a section of flexible air tubing on a</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">air bag jack.&nbsp; I fabricated a new handle t=
o give the jack more reach and the original tubing is too short</font></div>=

<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I tried replacing original with H.D. stuff but i=
t was too stiff to&nbsp; slip over the fitting... The original tubing</font>=
</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">is amber colored and very pliable...squeezes ea=
sily between your fingers.. the H.D. stuff was stiff</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">It press fits over a fitting with a holding nut=
 keeping it in place.&nbsp; I would imagine the working pressure</font></div=
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">would be around 100#s since most compressors pu=
t out that much&nbsp;&nbsp; It's i.d. is 3/26 and o.d. is 5/16 or</font></di=
v>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">its metric equivalent.&nbsp; Only markings on t=
he orig is "013M" but I don't think that means `13mm'</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">so first question&nbsp; =E2=80=A6 what type tub=
ing do I need&nbsp; vinyl ??? PVC ??? Polyethylene ???? </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">second question&nbsp; =E2=80=A6 where to find i=
t&nbsp;&nbsp; """&nbsp; pics attached</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
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v>&lt;IMG_1321.jpg&gt;</div></font></div>
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From: John T Blair <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 23:01:32 +0000 (UTC)

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On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 02:42:52 PM EDT, john niolon=C2=A0 wrote: =
=20
 >OK... time to educate the old man...=C2=A0 I have a need to replace a sec=
tion of=C2=A0>flexible air tubing on aair bag jack.=C2=A0 I fabricated a ne=
w handle to give the=C2=A0>jack more reach and the original tubing is too s=
hort
>I tried replacing original with H.D. stuff but it was too stiff to=C2=A0 s=
lip over the=C2=A0>fitting... The original tubing is amber colored and very=
 pliable...squeezes=C2=A0>easily between your fingers.. the H.D. stuff was =
stiff
John,
You should have some sort of Truck Stop shop around your area.=C2=A0 Take y=
ou old piece there, and know what length you want, and ask them what they h=
ave like that for air brakes.
The Bricklin uses that to lift the the doors (about 100# ea).=C2=A0 You onb=
oard compressors use a pressure switch that comes on about 110 and off at 1=
50psi.
Never had a problem with that.=C2=A0 Depending on the dia you are using you=
'll want to get the right fittings, again ask the counter person at the tru=
ck stop.=C2=A0 There are 2 types that I know of, one with the penis in the =
fitting and one where you have to purchase the metal insert for the dia. ho=
se you are using.=C2=A0 If you don't have either of these metal inserts for=
 the hose, the hose will collapse when you tighten the=C2=A0 nut on the fer=
rel.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I'll send you pictures of the 2 connectors in another emai=
l.
JohnT

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t size=3D"3">On Monday, October 20, 2025 at 02:42:52 PM EDT, john niolon&nb=
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                    <div><font size=3D"3"><br></font></div>
                    <div><font size=3D"3">&gt;<font face=3D"Segoe UI">OK...=
 time to educate the old man...&nbsp; I have a need to replace a section of=
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=3D"3"><font face=3D"Segoe UI"><span><font style=3D"background-color: inher=
it;" size=3D"3">&gt;</font></span>flexible air tubing on a</font></font><fo=
nt size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">air bag jack.&nbsp; I fabricated a new hand=
le to give the&nbsp;</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><fo=
nt size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><span><font style=3D"background-color: inhe=
rit;" size=3D"3">&gt;</font></span>jack more reach and the original tubing =
is too short</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=
=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><br></font></div><div><div id=3D"ydpa920f094yiv833=
6556868"><div>
<div><font size=3D"3">&gt;</font><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">I tried=
 replacing original with H.D. stuff but it was too stiff to&nbsp; slip over=
 the&nbsp;</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D=
"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><span><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" size=
=3D"3">&gt;</font></span>fitting... The original tubing is amber colored an=
d very pliable...squeezes&nbsp;</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><span><font style=3D"background-=
color: inherit;" size=3D"3">&gt;</font></span>easily between your fingers..=
 the H.D. stuff was stiff</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">John,</font></div><div=
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/font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D=
"Segoe UI">You should have some sort of Truck Stop shop around your area.&n=
bsp; Take you old piece there, and know what length you want, and ask them =
what they have like that for air brakes.</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><br></font></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">The Bri=
cklin uses that to lift the the doors (about 100# ea).&nbsp; You onboard co=
mpressors use a pressure switch that comes on about 110 and off at 150psi.<=
/font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D=
"Segoe UI"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><font si=
ze=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">Never had a problem with that.&nbsp; Depending o=
n the dia you are using you'll want to get the right fittings, again ask th=
e counter person at the truck stop.&nbsp; There are 2 types that I know of,=
 one with the penis in the fitting and one where you have to purchase the m=
etal insert for the dia. hose you are using.&nbsp; If you don't have either=
 of these metal inserts for the hose, the hose will collapse when you tight=
en the&nbsp; nut on the ferrel.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll send you pictures of the 2=
 connectors in another email.</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Segoe UI">JohnT</font></div>=
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