Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shipping a crate

From: Moose <[email-masked]>
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Wow, I never have heard of that one with shipping LTL loads (less than a 
truck load).

All the 3rd party 'brokers' seem to promise one price, then once it's 
shipped, they say things like, "it weighed more" or "it was an oddball 
size" and they hit you with extra fees AFTER delivery that you can't 
fight.

I found that UPS Freight (NOT the same UPS account) is the best.

First, call them and tell them you want an account.  Then, you'll get an 
account manager.  Call him (or her) and tell them that you want a 
discounted rate for being a 'good guy' or whatever.  They will normally 
automatically put a 10%-50% discount on your shipping.

Then use them. 

Contact me if you have any other questions.

Moose

From:   "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
To:     "Shop  Talk" <[email-masked]>
Date:   09/04/2025 07:42
Subject:        [Shop-talk] shipping a crate
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>

Hey all, 

I need to get a crate from WI to DE. 

The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of 
three times what it would be otherwise. (this is BS)

I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a business 
license before they could help me. 

So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a crate 
affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be calling 
them this afternoon but an already certain that they will be stupid 
expensive.

Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use it 
to set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am starting to get 
desperate. 

Thanks all
tim_______________________________________________

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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Wow, I never have heard of that one with
shipping LTL loads (less than a truck load).</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">All the 3rd party 'brokers' seem to
promise one price, then once it's shipped, they say things like, &quot;it
weighed more&quot; or &quot;it was an oddball size&quot; and they hit you
with extra fees AFTER delivery that you can't fight.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I found that UPS Freight (NOT the same
UPS account) is the best.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">First, call them and tell them you want
an account. &nbsp;Then, you'll get an account manager. &nbsp;Call him (or
her) and tell them that you want a discounted rate for being a 'good guy'
or whatever. &nbsp;They will normally automatically put a 10%-50% discount
on your shipping.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Then use them. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Contact me if you have any other questions.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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shipping a crate</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">Hey all, </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">I need to get a crate from WI to DE. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">The shipper I tried said I need a business
license to avoid a cost of three times what it would be otherwise. (this
is BS)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">I tried a third-party shipper who also
told me that I needed a business license before they could help me. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">So..............any suggestions for a company
that will ship a crate affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account
and will be calling them this afternoon but an already certain that they
will be stupid expensive.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">Any of you have a business license that
would be willing to let me use it to set up this shipping? A big ask, I
know but I am starting to get desperate. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Calibri">Thanks all</font>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 07:46:05 -0500

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How big is the rate & what does it weigh?

In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl t=
o Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can find=
 the name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool & equipment c=
ompany that used their own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If they h=
ad spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it waited for a truck with r=
oom. It was store to store shipping.=20

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

=EF=BB=BF
Hey all,=20

I need to get a crate from WI to DE.=20

The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of three t=
imes what it would be otherwise. (this is BS)

I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a business lice=
nse before they could help me.=20

So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a crate afforda=
bly for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be calling them thi=
s afternoon but an already certain that they will be stupid expensive.

Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use it to=
 set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am starting to get desperate.=
=20

Thanks all
tim

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">How big is the rate &amp; what does it weig=
h?<div><br></div><div>In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175=
 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll hav=
e to see if I can find the name of the company. They were actually a commerc=
ial tool &amp; equipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies t=
o their stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it w=
aited for a truck with room. It was store to store shipping.&nbsp;</div><div=
><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</di=
v><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50=E2=80=AF=
AM, Tim . &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1=
">

<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Hey all,&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
I need to get a crate from WI to DE.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of three t=
imes what it would be otherwise. (this is BS)</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a business lice=
nse before they could help me.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a crate afforda=
bly for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be calling them thi=
s afternoon but an already certain that they will be stupid expensive.</div>=

<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use it to=
 set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am starting to get desperate.=
&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Thanks all</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
tim</div>

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Years ago, the cheapest way to send heavy crates (transmissions, etc.) was
Greyhound bus. I do not know if they run routes near you or whether they
still do freight, but it used to be drastically cheaper than other carriers=
.

best,

doug

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> In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from F=
l
> to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can =
find the
> name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool & equipment
> company that used their own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If th=
ey
> had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it waited for a truck wi=
th
> room. It was store to store shipping.
>
> Peace, Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]>=
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> affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be callin=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Yea=
rs ago, the cheapest way to send heavy crates (transmissions, etc.) was Gre=
yhound bus. I do not know if they run routes near you or whether they still=
 do freight, but it used to be drastically=C2=A0cheaper than other carriers=
.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, =
Sep 4, 2025 at 6:29=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@i=
cloud.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">How big is the rate &amp=
; what does it weigh?<div><br></div><div>In 2021 I had a crated transmissio=
n weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $=
200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can find the name of the company. They w=
ere actually a commercial tool &amp; equipment company that used their own =
trucks to get supplies to their stores. If they had spare room on the truck=
, it went in. If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store to stor=
e shipping.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"m=
_-2625246032705926325lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat =
Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tims_datsun_stu=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hey all,=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I need to get a crate from WI to DE.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of three=
 times what it would be otherwise. (this is BS)</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a business lic=
ense before they could help me.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a crate afford=
ably for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be calling them t=
his afternoon but an already certain that they will be stupid expensive.</d=
iv>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use it t=
o set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am starting to get desperat=
e.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks all</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>

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> In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from
Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can=
 find
the name of the company.
> They were actually a commercial tool & equipment company that used their
own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If they had spare room on the
truck, it went in.
> If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store to store shipping.

Sounds like Fastenal. I think they have stopped offering this service.

EjR

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">&gt=
;=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:small">In 2021 I had a crated transmission =
weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $20=
0. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can find the name of the company.=C2=A0</s=
pan></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">&gt; They were actually a commercial tool &amp; equip=
ment company that used their own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If=
 they had spare room on the truck, it went in.=C2=A0</span></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small=
">&gt; If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store to store shipp=
ing.=C2=A0</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:larg=
e"><span style=3D"font-size:small"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small">Sounds like=
 Fastenal. I think they have stopped offering this service.=C2=A0</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small">EjR=C2=A0</span></div><div><br>=
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dir=3D"auto">How big is the rate &amp; what does it weigh?<div><br></div><d=
iv>In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from =
Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can=
 find the name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool &amp; e=
quipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies to their stores=
. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it waited for a =
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Yes, Fastenal! I was just trying to find my payment to them! Thanks for 
the information.

It wouldn't hurt to ask them if they do it again, you never can tell.

Someone else mentioned Grayhound earlier. I haven't checked lately but 
when I wanted to ship the transmission, they were much higher than 
Fastenal but might be a good option now.

Peace, Pat

On 9/4/2025 8:58 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> > In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped 
> from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I’ll have to see if I 
> can find the name of the company.
> > They were actually a commercial tool & equipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies 
> to their stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in.
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:25 AM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped
>     from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I’ll have to see if
>     I can find the name of the company. They were actually a
>     commercial tool & equipment company that used their own trucks to
>     get supplies to their stores. If they had spare room on the truck,
>     it went in. If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store
>     to store shipping.
>
>     Peace, Pat
>
>     Pat Horne
>     On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50 AM, Tim . <[email-masked]>
>     wrote:
>
>     
>     Hey all,
>
>     The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost
>     of three times what it would be otherwise. (this is BS)
>
>     I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a
>     business license before they could help me.
>
>     So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a
>     crate affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account and
>     will be calling them this afternoon but an already certain that
>     they will be stupid expensive.
>
>     Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me
>     use it to set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am
>     starting to get desperate.
>
>     Thanks all
>     tim
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    <p>Yes, Fastenal! I was just trying to find my payment to them!
      Thanks for the information. </p>
    <p>It wouldn't hurt to ask them if they do it again, you never can
      tell.</p>
    <p>Someone else mentioned Grayhound earlier. I haven't checked
      lately but when I wanted to ship the transmission, they were much
      higher than Fastenal but might be a good option now.</p>
    <p>Peace, Pat</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/4/2025 8:58 AM, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
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            style="font-size:small">In 2021 I had a crated transmission
            weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it
            cost less than $200. I’ll have to see if I can find the name
            of the company. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
            style="font-size:small">&gt; They were actually a commercial
            tool &amp; equipment company that used their own trucks to
            get supplies to their stores. If they had spare room on the
            truck, it went in. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
            style="font-size:small">&gt; If not, it waited for a truck
            with room. It was store to store shipping. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
            style="font-size:small"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
            style="font-size:small">Sounds like Fastenal. I think they
            have stopped offering this service. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
            style="font-size:small"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span
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        <div><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:25 AM
          Pat Horne &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">How big is the rate &amp; what does it weigh?
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175
              lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200.
              I’ll have to see if I can find the name of the company.
              They were actually a commercial tool &amp; equipment
              company that used their own trucks to get supplies to
              their stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went
              in. If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store
              to store shipping. </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Peace, Pat</div>
            <div><br
id="m_-7083533843083637013lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
              <div dir="ltr">Pat Horne 
                <div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
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                On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50 AM, Tim . &lt;<a
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                wrote:<br>
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                  Hey all, </div>
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                  <br>
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                <div
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                  I need to get a crate from WI to DE. </div>
                <div
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                  <br>
                </div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  The shipper I tried said I need a business license to
                  avoid a cost of three times what it would be
                  otherwise. (this is BS)</div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I
                  needed a business license before they could help me. </div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  So..............any suggestions for a company that
                  will ship a crate affordably for an average person? I
                  have a UPS account and will be calling them this
                  afternoon but an already certain that they will be
                  stupid expensive.</div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div
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                  Any of you have a business license that would be
                  willing to let me use it to set up this shipping? A
                  big ask, I know but I am starting to get desperate. </div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div
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                  Thanks all</div>
                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                  tim</div>
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Just looked up Fastenal Ship & they are partially shipping again 
according to their website. The only restriction is that they have east 
& west zones & will not ship between them but that won't affect Tim's 
shipment.

Peace, Pat

>     starting to get desperate.
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I'm not sure, but it looks like Fastenal does still ship. They have east=20
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>From "Douglas Shook" <[email-masked]>
To "Pat Horne" <[email-masked]>
Cc "Shop Talk" <[email-masked]>
Date 9/4/2025 6:33:04 AM
Subject Re: [Shop-talk] shipping a crate

>Years ago, the cheapest way to send heavy crates (transmissions, etc.)=20
>was Greyhound bus. I do not know if they run routes near you or whether=20
>they still do freight, but it used to be drastically cheaper than other=20
>carriers.
>
>best,
>
>doug
>
>On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 6:29=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped=20
>>from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see i=
f I=20
>>can find the name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool=20
>>& equipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies to=20
>>their stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not,=20
>>it waited for a truck with room. It was store to store shipping.
>>
>>Peace, Pat
>>
>>Pat Horne
=20
>>The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of=20
>>I tried a third-party shipper who also told me that I needed a=20
>>So..............any suggestions for a company that will ship a crate=20
>>affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be=20
>>calling them this afternoon but an already certain that they will be=20
>>stupid expensive.
>>
>>Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use=20
>>it to set up this shipping? A big ask, I know but I am starting to get=20
>>desperate.
>>
>>Thanks all
>>tim
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rs ago, the cheapest way to send heavy crates (transmissions, etc.) was Gre=
yhound bus. I do not know if they run routes near you or whether they still =
do freight, but it used to be drastically=C2=A0cheaper than other carriers=
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div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div class=
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[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br /></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">How big is the rate =
&amp; what does it weigh?<div><br /></div><div>In 2021 I had a crated tran=
smission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less =
than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can find the name of the company. =
They were actually a commercial tool &amp; equipment company that used the=
ir own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If they had spare room on th=
e truck, it went in. If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store=
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The shipper I tried said I need a business license to avoid a cost of three =
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Fastenal does still offer shipping, but only for shippers who have business
accounts with them.  I have bought a lot of tractor parts using this
method.  They also only ship within a "zone".  I know I can get stuff from
MN to IA via this method, but not from CA to IA.  They also ONLY ship to
one of their stores, not to another business address.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 2:17=E2=80=AFPM Eric Russell <[email-masked]>=
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> Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I c=
an find
> the name of the company.
> > They were actually a commercial tool & equipment company that used thei=
r
> > If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store to store shipping=
.
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:25=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>> Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I =
can find
>> the name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool & equipmen=
t
>> company that used their own trucks to get supplies to their stores. If t=
hey
>> had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it waited for a truck w=
ith
>> On Sep 4, 2025, at 6:50=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Hey all,
>>
>> affordably for an average person? I have a UPS account and will be calli=
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>> Any of you have a business license that would be willing to let me use i=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Fastenal does still offer shipping, but only for shippers =
who have business accounts=C2=A0with them.=C2=A0 I have bought a lot of tra=
ctor parts using this method.=C2=A0 They also only ship within a &quot;zone=
&quot;.=C2=A0 I know I can get stuff from MN to IA via this method, but not=
 from CA to IA.=C2=A0 They also ONLY ship to one of their stores, not to an=
other business address.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_cont=
ainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 2:17=E2=
=80=AFPM Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ejrussel=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:large">&gt;=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:small">In 2021 I had a crated =
transmission weighing about 175 lbs shipped from Fl to Tx. I think it cost =
less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see if I can find the name of the comp=
any.=C2=A0</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:larg=
e"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&gt; They were actually a commercial too=
l &amp; equipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies to the=
ir stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in.=C2=A0</span></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small">&gt; If not, it waited for a truck with room. It was store t=
o store shipping.=C2=A0</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small"><br></span></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small=
">Sounds like Fastenal. I think they have stopped offering this service.=C2=
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n style=3D"font-size:small"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:large"><span style=3D"font-size:small">EjR=C2=A0</span></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:25=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"auto">How big is the rate &amp; what does it weigh?<div><br><=
/div><div>In 2021 I had a crated transmission weighing about 175 lbs shippe=
d from Fl to Tx. I think it cost less than $200. I=E2=80=99ll have to see i=
f I can find the name of the company. They were actually a commercial tool =
&amp; equipment company that used their own trucks to get supplies to their=
 stores. If they had spare room on the truck, it went in. If not, it waited=
 for a truck with room. It was store to store shipping.=C2=A0</div><div><br=
></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"m_-3588228855640521266m_-7083533=
843083637013lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=
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