Subject: [Shop-talk] Over the air antenna frustration

From: "Tim ." <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 03:28:15 +0000

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Knowing how large the knowledge base is here I am hoping someone can help..=
......

I cut the cable a couple years ago and bought an over the air digital anten=
na. I bought what was the best one recommended by cnet.com at that time.

My only window option for mounting said antenna is a west facing window tha=
t gets full sun all afternoon until sunset.

Can I assume that the constant pixelation is from sun interference? If not,=
 why do I get constant pixelation? If so, is there any fix/cure/etc?

I need to fix this before football starts otherwise the boss will be upset.=
 (happy wife happy like)

Thanks all

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I cut the cable a couple years ago and bought an over the air digital anten=
na. I bought what was the best one recommended by cnet.com at that time.</d=
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My only window option for mounting said antenna is a west facing window tha=
t gets full sun all afternoon until sunset.</div>
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Can I assume that the constant pixelation is from sun interference? If not,=
 why do I get constant pixelation? If so, is there any fix/cure/etc?</div>
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I need to fix this before football starts otherwise the boss will be upset.=
 (happy wife happy like)</div>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:34:42 -0500

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Sure, Al. Check out getchannels.com. It tak=
es a little programming &amp; $80/year for the guide, but it=E2=80=99s more t=
han enough for me. The ad skip doesn=E2=80=99t always work but for free, it=E2=
=80=99s great! My DVR is a small headless pc w/USB disk &amp; my main tv use=
s a fire cube. You can also set it up to allow remotely watch your recorded s=
hows but I haven=E2=80=99t tried that yet.&nbsp;<div><br><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 9, 2025, at 9:25=E2=80=AFAM, Al Fuller &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><div>Pat, that sounds like a nice setup. Can you share details=
 of what you have?</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatur=
e">________________<br>Sent from my phone <br>Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 9, 2025, 9:15=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Tim, pixilation is c=
aused by weak signal, sunlight has nothing to do with it unless the sunlight=
 has degraded your antenna. Is this west-facing location facing the TV stati=
on? Is it on all stations? How far are you from the stations? Try putting th=
e antenna on the wall facing the stations.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I cut th=
e cord several years ago &amp; installed an antenna on the roof. I=E2=80=99m=
 about 40 miles to the stations &amp; had trouble with pixilation &amp; comp=
lete dropout at times. I added an antenna-mounted amplifier &amp; now get ve=
ry few problems, usually first thing in the morning when it is foggy.&nbsp;<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Not related to your question, but I have a box that=
 connects my antenna to my network &amp; contains 4 tuners. I use a computer=
 to record the shows I want to watch, then watch them on my tv whenever I fe=
el like it. This allows me to put the antenna on the far end of the house wh=
ere the reception is better.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><=
br id=3D"m_8856460935109116543lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2025, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, Tim . &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
Knowing how large the knowledge base is here I am hoping someone can help...=
.....</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
I cut the cable a couple years ago and bought an over the air digital antenn=
a. I bought what was the best one recommended by <a href=3D"http://cnet.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cnet.com</a> at that time.</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
My only window option for mounting said antenna is a west facing window that=
 gets full sun all afternoon until sunset.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
Can I assume that the constant pixelation is from sun interference? If not, w=
hy do I get constant pixelation? If so, is there any fix/cure/etc?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
I need to fix this before football starts otherwise the boss will be upset. (=
happy wife happy like)</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks all</div>

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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 14:52:11 -0500

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Just an aside, all these =E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=9D antennas on the market ar=
e pretty much UHF antennas since they operate in the old UHF band. The VHF b=
and has gone away for TV use but tho old UHF/VHF antennas should work. Basic=
ally what I=E2=80=99m saying is that if you have an older UHF/VHF antenna up=
, just because it doesn=E2=80=99t say digital, it should work fine. All ante=
nnas decrease signal strength as they age, the insulators get leaky & the el=
ements corrode which can decrease their ability to receive.=20

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Aug 9, 2025, at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM, David Scheidt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

=EF=BB=BF
In addition to what others said, antennaeb.org will tell you bearing and dis=
tance to the stations you=E2=80=99re interested in, and a rough idea of what=
 kind of antenna you need for each. Depending on where you are, you may need=
 an tenna you can rotate, but getting it high enough might work.=20

I put a directional antenna in my attic. It=E2=80=99s pointing at the distan=
t station antenna tower, the closer stuff is powerful enough that it=E2=80=99=
s still got good reception.=20

> On Aug 8, 2025, at 22:38, Tim . <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Knowing how large the knowledge base is here I am hoping someone can help.=
.......
>=20
> I cut the cable a couple years ago and bought an over the air digital ante=
nna. I bought what was the best one recommended by cnet.com at that time.
>=20
> My only window option for mounting said antenna is a west facing window th=
at gets full sun all afternoon until sunset.
>=20
> Can I assume that the constant pixelation is from sun interference? If not=
, why do I get constant pixelation? If so, is there any fix/cure/etc?
>=20
> I need to fix this before football starts otherwise the boss will be upset=
. (happy wife happy like)
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Just an aside, all these =E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=
=80=9D antennas on the market are pretty much UHF antennas since they operat=
e in the old UHF band. The VHF band has gone away for TV use but tho old UHF/=
VHF antennas should work. Basically what I=E2=80=99m saying is that if you h=
ave an older UHF/VHF antenna up, just because it doesn=E2=80=99t say digital=
, it should work fine. All antennas decrease signal strength as they age, th=
e insulators get leaky &amp; the elements corrode which can decrease their a=
bility to receive.&nbsp;<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><=
br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 9, 2025, at 11:58=E2=80=AFAM, Dav=
id Scheidt &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Du=
tf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In addition to what others sai=
d, antennaeb.org will tell you bearing and distance to the stations you=E2=80=
=99re interested in, and a rough idea of what kind of antenna you need for e=
ach. Depending on where you are, you may need an tenna you can rotate, but g=
etting it high enough might work.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">I put a directional antenna in my attic. It=E2=80=99s pointing a=
t the distant station antenna tower, the closer stuff is powerful enough tha=
t it=E2=80=99s still got good reception.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 8, 2025, at 22:38, Tim . &lt;tims_datsun_stuff=
@outlook.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Knowing how large the knowledge base is here I am hoping someone can help...=
.....</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
I cut the cable a couple years ago and bought an over the air digital antenn=
a. I bought what was the best one recommended by cnet.com at that time.</div=
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
My only window option for mounting said antenna is a west facing window that=
 gets full sun all afternoon until sunset.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Can I assume that the constant pixelation is from sun interference? If not, w=
hy do I get constant pixelation? If so, is there any fix/cure/etc?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
I need to fix this before football starts otherwise the boss will be upset. (=
happy wife happy like)</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"elementToProof">
Thanks all</div>

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