Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling

From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 20:26:26 +0000

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Team,

I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside.  The best place t=
o store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, so=
 I want to be sure I get this right.  I have 4, 5/16" Eye Lag Bolts that ar=
e going into the ceiling.  One end of the rope will terminate at either a s=
et of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the =
canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts.  It overdesigned, but it's hanging over a car =
I cherish.

My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16th Eye Lag bolt.  I am screwing t=
hem vertically up into the ceiling's new 2x4's, so I am thinking the pilot =
hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to hel=
p reduce the friction of installing them.

I'm looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind tha=
t while the load is light, it's a vertical hanging arrangement.

Thanks in advance,

Jack

p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.  We had a home with three car=
 bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room.=
  I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an attached single wid=
e, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sp=
rinter van and a workbench.  I do have some basement storage too.  I'm usin=
g a lot more vertical storage and it's getting there.........

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Team,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe out=
side.&nbsp; The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from=
 the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this right.&nbsp; I ha=
ve 4, 5/16&#8221; Eye Lag Bolts that are going into
 the ceiling.&nbsp; One end of the rope will terminate at either a set of c=
leats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the canoe v=
ia the Eye Lag Bolts.&nbsp; It overdesigned, but it&#8217;s hanging over a =
car I cherish.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16<sup>th</s=
up> Eye Lag bolt.&nbsp; I am screwing them vertically up into the ceiling&#=
8217;s new 2x4&#8217;s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a smidge =
on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to help
 reduce the friction of installing them.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#8217;m looking for thoughts on the size of the pi=
lot hole, keeping in mind that while the load is light, it&#8217;s a vertic=
al hanging arrangement.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jack<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.&nbsp; =
We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspac=
e with tons of storage room.&nbsp; I am forcing everything into a two bay g=
arage with an attached single wide, 42 foot
 deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van=
 and a workbench.&nbsp; I do have some basement storage too.&nbsp; I&#8217;=
m using a lot more vertical storage and it&#8217;s getting there&#8230;&#82=
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From: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 15:59:42 +0000

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Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup =
along the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and =
stern off to the side.

https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html

I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern =
hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters.  I then had a pair of straps =
to more safely hold the kayak.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling

Team,

I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside.  The best place =
to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, =
so I want to be sure I get this right.  I have 4, 5/16&rdquo; Eye Lag Bolts=
 that are going into the ceiling.  One end of the rope will terminate at =
either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end =
suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts.  It overdesigned, but =
it&rsquo;s hanging over a car I cherish.=20

My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16th Eye Lag bolt.  I am screwing =
them vertically up into the ceiling&rsquo;s new 2x4&rsquo;s, so I am =
thinking the pilot hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap=
 or paraffin to help reduce the friction of installing them.=20

I&rsquo;m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in =
mind that while the load is light, it&rsquo;s a vertical hanging =
arrangement.

Thanks in advance,

Jack

p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.  We had a home with three car=
 bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room.=
  I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an attached single =
wide, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a=
 Sprinter van and a workbench.  I do have some basement storage too.  =
I&rsquo;m using a lot more vertical storage and it&rsquo;s getting =
there&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;

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t"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Jack - To store my 50lb=
 kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup along the lines of the =
link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;"><a href=3D"https://www.=
harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html">https://www.harborfreight.=
com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">I'd drive the car in with =
the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern hooks, then pull the kayak up=
 to the rafters.&nbsp; I then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the =
kayak.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Brian</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div class=3D"elnk-inline-message-container" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: =
0;">
<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jack Brooks &lt;jibrooks@live.=
com&gt;<br>Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>To: [email-masked] =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot=
 hole in ceiling</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Team,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe =
outside.&nbsp; The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging =
from the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this right.&nbsp; =
I have 4, 5/16=E2=80=9D Eye Lag Bolts that are going into the ceiling.=
&nbsp; One end of the rope will terminate at either a set of cleats on the =
wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye =
Lag Bolts.&nbsp; It overdesigned, but it=E2=80=99s hanging over a car I =
cherish.&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is the pilot hole for the =
5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt.&nbsp; I am screwing them vertically up into=
 the ceiling=E2=80=99s new 2x4=E2=80=99s, so I am thinking the pilot hole =
should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to help =
reduce the friction of installing them.&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m looking for thoughts on the size of the =
pilot hole, keeping in mind that while the load is light, it=E2=80=99s a =
vertical hanging arrangement.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jack</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.&nbsp; =
We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry =
crawlspace with tons of storage room.&nbsp; I am forcing everything into a =
two bay garage with an attached single wide, 42 foot deep bay that will =
hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench.=
&nbsp; I do have some basement storage too.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m using a lot =
more vertical storage and it=E2=80=99s getting there=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6</p>
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