Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Gas Tank Restoration

From: Douglas Shook <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 22:11:03 +0000

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https://www.harborfreight.com/1-quart-evapo-rust-rust-remover-96433.html?ut=
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I used this to great effect on motorcycle tanks

Best,

Doug
mobile
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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Al Fuller <=
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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2025 1:59:54 PM
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Subject: [Shop-talk] Gas Tank Restoration

I am in the process of reviving a car that has sat for several years. The g=
as tank was partially full of old gas, which when pumped out brought out a =
lot of rust. As such, I am thinking I will be needing to clean out and rest=
ore the inside of this tank.

Do any of you have experience with any of the gas tank restoration kits on =
the market? If so, please share your experience of using it and how it perf=
ormed over time.

I'm sure others will offer other opinions, such as 'just use muriatic acid'=
, 'just use vinegar', 'just use Coca-Cola', etc... - So, I'll bite: If you =
have actually used something other than a commercial kit, please share thos=
e experiences, too!

Thanks in advance.

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<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I used this to great effec=
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<div>I am in the process of reviving a car that has sat for several years. =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do any of you have experience with any of the gas tank res=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm sure others will offer other opinions, such as 'just u=
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I'd be interested in this as well.  I have a diesel bulldozer that needs 
it's tank cleaned out. I was thinking of just cutting the tank in half, 
cleaning it and welding it back together.

I understand there are safety concerns, but it's diesel, so it will just 
burn and smoke, not exploded.  (unless I'm doing my math wrong.) 8>)

Moose

From:   "Al Fuller" <[email-masked]>
To:     "Shop Talk" <[email-masked]>, "Ahealey help" 
<[email-masked]>
Date:   04/11/2025 17:53
Subject:        [Shop-talk] Gas Tank Restoration
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>

I am in the process of reviving a car that has sat for several years. The 
gas tank was partially full of old gas, which when pumped out brought out 
a lot of rust. As such, I am thinking I will be needing to clean out and 
restore the inside of this tank.

Do any of you have experience with any of the gas tank restoration kits on 
the market? If so, please share your experience of using it and how it 
performed over time.

I'm sure others will offer other opinions, such as 'just use muriatic 
acid', 'just use vinegar', 'just use Coca-Cola', etc... - So, I'll bite: 
If you have actually used something other than a commercial kit, please 
share those experiences, too!

Thanks in advance. 

===========================
Al Fuller
714.335.0248 Mobile
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'd be interested in this as well. &nbsp;I
have a diesel bulldozer that needs it's tank cleaned out. I was thinking
of just cutting the tank in half, cleaning it and welding it back together.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I understand there are safety concerns,
but it's diesel, so it will just burn and smoke, not exploded. &nbsp;(unless
I'm doing my math wrong.) 8&gt;)</font>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;Al Fuller&quot;
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &quot;Ahealey help&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;
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Gas Tank Restoration</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Segoe UI">I am in the process of reviving a car
that has sat for several years. The gas tank was partially full of old
gas, which when pumped out brought out a lot of rust. As such,&nbsp;I am
thinking I will be needing to clean out and restore the inside of this
tank.</font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Segoe UI">Do any of you have experience with any
of the gas tank restoration kits on the market? If so, please share your
experience of using it and how it performed over time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Segoe UI">I'm sure others will offer other opinions,
such as 'just use muriatic acid', 'just use vinegar', 'just use Coca-Cola',
etc... - So, I'll bite: If you have actually used something other than
a commercial kit, please share those experiences, too!</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Segoe UI">Thanks in advance.&nbsp;</font>
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Al Fuller<br>
714.335.0248 Mobile</font>
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I did the tanks on my Alpine about 20 years ago using the Bill Hirsch =
kit (https://www.hirschauto.com/Gas-Tank-Sealer-Repair/products/4/) and =
they still look like new.  (Alpine tanks were painted inside from the =
factory and the paint was good for about 30 years.  Unfortunately=E2=80=A6=
)  The hardest part was cleaning the inside of the tank.  Rust wasn=E2=80=99=
t as big an issue as sludge and old paint.  I did just about everything =
I could think of, from electrolytic derusting to paint remover.  All of =
that helped but I never got them completely clean until I used muriatic =
acid.  There is an article on the Alpine club=E2=80=99s home page =
documenting the cleaning trials and tribulations that one member went =
through that you might find helpful. =
https://sunbeamalpine.org/2008/12/23/how-to-clean-and-seal-gas-tanks/

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brought out a lot of rust. As such, I am thinking I will be needing to =
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I did the =
tanks on my Alpine about 20 years ago using the Bill Hirsch kit (<a =
href=3D"https://www.hirschauto.com/Gas-Tank-Sealer-Repair/products/4/">htt=
ps://www.hirschauto.com/Gas-Tank-Sealer-Repair/products/4/</a>) and they =
still look like new. &nbsp;(Alpine tanks were painted inside from the =
factory and the paint was good for about 30 years. =
&nbsp;Unfortunately=E2=80=A6) &nbsp;The hardest part was cleaning the =
inside of the tank. &nbsp;Rust wasn=E2=80=99t as big an issue as sludge =
and old paint. &nbsp;I did just about everything I could think of, from =
electrolytic derusting to paint remover. &nbsp;All of that helped but I =
never got them completely clean until I used muriatic acid. &nbsp;There =
is an article on the Alpine club=E2=80=99s home page documenting the =
cleaning trials and tribulations that one member went through that you =
might find helpful.&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://sunbeamalpine.org/2008/12/23/how-to-clean-and-seal-gas-tan=
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;">I am in the process of reviving a car that has sat for several =
years. The gas tank was partially full of old gas, which when pumped out =
brought out a lot of rust. As such,&nbsp;I am thinking I will be needing =
to clean out and restore the inside of this tank.</div><div =
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dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Do any of you have experience with any =
of the gas tank restoration kits on the market? If so, please share your =
experience of using it and how it performed over time.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm sure others will offer other =
opinions, such as 'just use muriatic acid', 'just use vinegar', 'just =
use Coca-Cola', etc... - So, I'll bite: If you have actually used =
something other than a commercial kit, please share those experiences, =
too!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in =
advance.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
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   On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 10:42:46 PM EDT,=C2=A0 you wrote: =20
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 >Ihave a diesel bulldozer that needs it's tank cleaned out. I was thinking=
of >just cutting the tank in half, cleaning it and welding it back together=
.>>I understand there are safety concerns,but it's diesel, so it will just =
burn and smoke, not exploded. =C2=A0(unlessI'm doing my math wrong.) 8>)
Moose

When we did my dad's '40 Packard and my '65 Morgan's tanks we drained them,=
 pulled them from the car, and took the to a radiator shop who cleaned and =
lined them for us.=C2=A0 I don't remember what it cost but it wasn't that b=
ad.
Check and see if you've got any radiator shops near you and what they'd cha=
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                        On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 10:42:46 PM EDT,&nbsp; you wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp56b02327yiv8668552738"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3" face="sans-serif">&gt;I
have a diesel bulldozer that needs it's tank cleaned out. I was thinking
of <span><font style="background-color: inherit;" size="3" face="sans-serif">&gt;</font></span>just cutting the tank in half, cleaning it and welding it back together.</font><font size="3">
</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><font style="background-color: inherit;" size="3" face="sans-serif">&gt;</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><font style="background-color: inherit;" size="3" face="sans-serif">&gt;I </font></span><font size="3"><font face="sans-serif">understand there are safety concerns,
but it's diesel, so it will just burn and smoke, not exploded. &nbsp;(unless
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<font size="3"><br clear="none"><font face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br clear="none"></font><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">When we did my dad's '40 Packard and my '65 Morgan's tanks we drained them, pulled them from the car, and took the to a radiator shop who cleaned and lined them for us.&nbsp; I don't remember what it cost but it wasn't that bad.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">Check and see if you've got any radiator shops near you and what they'd charge.</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">JohnT,</font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3"><br></font></div>

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From: Thomas Coradeschi <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 10:24:47 -0400

Kreem and POR-15 have been the long time Go To solutions for this problem. That said, I’ve got no personal experience with either system.

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> On Apr 11, 2025, at 4:59 PM, Al Fuller <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I am in the process of reviving a car that has sat for several years. The gas tank was partially full of old gas, which when pumped out brought out a lot of rust. As such, I am thinking I will be needing to clean out and restore the inside of this tank.
> 
> Do any of you have experience with any of the gas tank restoration kits on the market? If so, please share your experience of using it and how it performed over time.
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> I'm sure others will offer other opinions, such as 'just use muriatic acid', 'just use vinegar', 'just use Coca-Cola', etc... - So, I'll bite: If you have actually used something other than a commercial kit, please share those experiences, too!
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