Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] bi-directional scan tool and smoke

From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 17:00:01 -0400

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Since I do all the work on my 50 year old cars, but take the newer ones to
someone who already has the equipment and pay them instead, my only comment
is that a lifetime subscription to updates will last only as long as they
are doing business under that name.  If it's not otherwise update able,
then on some level it's a bit of a gamble.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025, 16:40 Moose <[email-masked]> wrote:

> OK, so I have a evap leak and I realize that I need to upgrade to a
> bi-directional scan tool and smoke machine.
>
> I was looking at this unit from Bosch... ADS525X
>
> https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08=
D3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQ=
Os3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&d=
ib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&qid=3D1744402691&sr=3D8-1
>
> But then I see this one... thinkcar 689 with lifetime updates included.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagnostic/dp=
/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3w=
x2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYz=
CI8fru4&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&qid=3D1744402691&sr=3D8-8-sp=
ons&sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=3D1
>
> So, for the guy that has to work on everyone's car that knows me.  Will
> the thinkcar do the job for a 1/4 of the price (and not have to pay per
> year?)
>
> Or is there a better option?
>
> Note, I've gone this far without one of these, so it will not be used a
> ton, but I'm guessing I'll need it more and more moving forward.
>
> Next, smoke machine leak detector...
>
> Again, I don't need it often, but this is the second time I could use one=
,
> so I'll buy it.  Will a cheap one work just as good for occasional use?
>
> I do want to get one that can tell if there is a leak as well (built in
> gauge.)
>
> Will this do the trick?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compatible/d=
p/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6=
pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMyldsCf09mVv52ybxAB=
YDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbsJftxwlgOpRra_5iTFPE4n=
QwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZkb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7
> L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dc=
ar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&qid=3D1744403070&sprefix=3Dcar%2Bsmo=
ke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&sr=3D8-4&th=3D1
> <https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compatible/=
dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F=
6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMyldsCf09mVv52ybxA=
BYDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbsJftxwlgOpRra_5iTFPE4=
nQwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZkb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7L=
_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcar%=
2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&qid=3D1744403070&sprefix=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%=
2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&sr=3D8-4&th=3D1>
>
> Finally,
> Anyone in the NJ area that wants to use these ever, swing on by (this is
> so I can justify the cost!)
>
> Thanks!
> Moose
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Since I do all the work on my 50 year old cars, but take =
the newer ones to someone who already has the equipment and pay them instea=
d, my only comment is that a lifetime subscription to updates will last onl=
y as long as they are doing business under that name.=C2=A0 If it&#39;s not=
 otherwise update able, then on some level it&#39;s a bit of a gamble.<div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Fri, Apr 11, 2025, 16:40 Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">er=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><fon=
t size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, so I have a evap leak and I realize
that I need to upgrade to a bi-directional scan tool and smoke machine.</fo=
nt>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I was looking at this unit from Bo=
sch...
ADS525X</font>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wi=
reless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30=
Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoC=
yuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&amp;qid=3D174440=
2691&amp;sr=3D8-1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><font size=3D"2" co=
lor=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professi=
onal-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQw=
kiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6Q=
gI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525=
x&amp;qid=3D1744402691&amp;sr=3D8-1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But then I see this one... thinkca=
r
689 with lifetime updates included.</font>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-=
Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6=
Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1l=
Xt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&amp;qid=
=3D1744402691&amp;sr=3D8-8-spons&amp;sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&amp;p=
sc=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue=
" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirec=
tional-Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwki=
u--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI=
_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&=
amp;qid=3D1744402691&amp;sr=3D8-8-spons&amp;sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdG=
Y&amp;psc=3D1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, for the guy that has to work o=
n
everyone&#39;s car that knows me.=C2=A0 Will the thinkcar do the job for a
1/4 of the price (and not have to pay per year?)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Or is there a better option?</font=
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I&#39;ve gone this far witho=
ut one
of these, so it will not be used a ton, but I&#39;m guessing I&#39;ll need =
it more
and more moving forward.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Next, smoke machine leak detector.=
..</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Again, I don&#39;t need it often, =
but this
is the second time I could use one, so I&#39;ll buy it.=C2=A0 Will a cheap
one work just as good for occasional use?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I do want to get one that can tell=
 if
there is a leak as well (built in gauge.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Will this do the trick?</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic=
-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&amp;dib=3DeyJ2I=
joiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMy=
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hU2ahkfOxLgjVP7L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&amp;dib_tag=
=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&amp;qid=3D1744=
403070&amp;sprefix=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;=
th=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue=
" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Dia=
gnostic-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&amp;dib=
=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy=
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obwZkb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7
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rds=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&amp;qid=3D1744403070&amp;spre=
fix=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;th=3D1</font></=
a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Finally,</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Anyone in the NJ area that wants t=
o
use these ever, swing on by (this is so I can justify the cost!)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 20:21:57 -0400

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I know absolutely nothing about bi-directional scan tools, but I =
frequently check Fakespot as one source of input on reviews from =
companies I know nothing about.  FWIW, here is a screenshot of what =
Fakespot says about this scanner and the company:

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> On Apr 11, 2025, at 4:29=E2=80=AFPM, Moose <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> OK, so I have a evap leak and I realize that I need to upgrade to a =
bi-directional scan tool and smoke machine.=20
>=20
> I was looking at this unit from Bosch... ADS525X=20
> =
https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08D=
3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQ=
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dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&qid=3D1744402691&sr=3D8-1=20
>=20
> But then I see this one... thinkcar 689 with lifetime updates =
included.=20
> =
https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagnostic/dp/=
B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3w=
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spons&sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=3D1=20
>=20
> So, for the guy that has to work on everyone's car that knows me.  =
Will the thinkcar do the job for a 1/4 of the price (and not have to pay =
per year?)=20
>=20
> Or is there a better option?=20
>=20
> Note, I've gone this far without one of these, so it will not be used =
a ton, but I'm guessing I'll need it more and more moving forward.=20
>=20
> Next, smoke machine leak detector...=20
>=20
> Again, I don't need it often, but this is the second time I could use =
one, so I'll buy it.  Will a cheap one work just as good for occasional =
use?=20
>=20
> I do want to get one that can tell if there is a leak as well (built =
in gauge.)=20
>=20
> Will this do the trick?=20
>=20
> =
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>=20
> Finally,=20
> Anyone in the NJ area that wants to use these ever, swing on by (this =
is so I can justify the cost!)=20
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> Thanks!=20
> Moose=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I know =
absolutely nothing about&nbsp;<font face=3D"sans-serif" =
size=3D"2">bi-directional scan tools, but I frequently check Fakespot as =
one source of input on reviews from companies I know nothing about. =
&nbsp;FWIW, here is a screenshot of what Fakespot says about this =
scanner and the&nbsp;company:</font><div><font face=3D"sans-serif" =
size=3D"2"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"2"><img=
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src=3D"cid:DE267D10-E2E1-42CA-AECE-FA7D3E011A64"><br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"></font><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 11, 2025, at 4:29=E2=80=AFPM, Moose =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">OK, so I have a evap leak and I realize
that I need to upgrade to a bi-directional scan tool and smoke =
machine.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I was looking at this unit from =
Bosch...
ADS525X</font>
<br><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless=
/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx=
2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYz=
CI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&amp;qid=3D174440269=
1&amp;sr=3D8-1"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" =
face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnos=
tic-Wireless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=3Dsr_1_1?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt=
-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lX=
t3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&amp;qid=
=3D1744402691&amp;sr=3D8-1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But then I see this one... =
thinkcar
689 with lifetime updates included.</font>
<br><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagno=
stic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uG=
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=3D1"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" =
face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirect=
ional-Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwki=
u--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6Qg=
I_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525=
x&amp;qid=3D1744402691&amp;sr=3D8-8-spons&amp;sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9=
tdGY&amp;psc=3D1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, for the guy that has to =
work on
everyone's car that knows me. &nbsp;Will the thinkcar do the job for a
1/4 of the price (and not have to pay per year?)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Or is there a better =
option?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I've gone this far =
without one
of these, so it will not be used a ton, but I'm guessing I'll need it =
more
and more moving forward.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Next, smoke machine leak =
detector...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Again, I don't need it often, =
but this
is the second time I could use one, so I'll buy it. &nbsp;Will a cheap
one work just as good for occasional use?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I do want to get one that can =
tell if
there is a leak as well (built in gauge.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Will this do the trick?</font>
<br>
<br><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compa=
tible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMS=
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</a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Finally,</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Anyone in the NJ area that =
wants to
use these ever, swing on by (this is so I can justify the cost!)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 15:05:04 +0200 (CEST)

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Donald,
 
Thanks so much for sharing this tip.  I've been using it for pasting links into emails since this first time I saw it which, I think, was from you.  However, the next habit to be formed is to remember to copy the link, paste it in the URL field, *** delete the tracking crap ***, then press enter.
 
Shop Talk relevant content: I did follow Moose's links and the items looked interesting but I've stepped back from much of the car work due to physical concerns.  I was planning on retiring this year anyway but got lucky and was offered a sweet severance package to leave.  So, I'm going to try to reverse (or at least slow down) those issues because I have a very long mostly self-imposed honey-do list that I need to tackle before everything on my body goes to crap ;-).  And that list includes taking the junk-dump and turning it back into a garage.
 
Thanks again for the helpful tracking-fighting tip!
 
Mark

> On 04/11/2025 7:20 PM EDT dhlocker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> May I point out, again, that in almost all cases, everything in a link that follows a '?' is tracking information that various companies use to follow where you found the link, who posted it, and how far it's propagated.
> 
> The Boxch product can be found at https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=sr_1_1 without exposing Moose and his search terms to Amazon's tracking system.
> 
> The ThinkScan product can be found at https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=sr_1_8_sspa again, without tracking
> 
> And, finally, the Autotool item: https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=sr_1_4
> 
> Donald.
> 
> On 4/11/25 16:29, Moose wrote:
> 
> > OK, so I have a evap leak and I realize that I need to upgrade to a bi-directional scan tool and smoke machine.
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&dib_tag=se&keywords=bosch+ads+525x&qid=1744402691&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/BOSCH-3945-Professional-Diagnostic-Wireless/dp/B08D3X6QBZ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&dib_tag=se&keywords=bosch+ads+525x&qid=1744402691&sr=8-1
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=sr_1_8_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&dib_tag=se&keywords=bosch+ads+525x&qid=1744402691&sr=8-8-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagnostic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=sr_1_8_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGPK30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2xIoCyuYzCI8fru4&dib_tag=se&keywords=bosch+ads+525x&qid=1744402691&sr=8-8-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1
> > 
> > So, for the guy that has to work on everyone's car that knows me.  Will the thinkcar do the job for a 1/4 of the price (and not have to pay per year?)
> > 
> > Note, I've gone this far without one of these, so it will not be used a ton, but I'm guessing I'll need it more and more moving forward.
> > 
> > Again, I don't need it often, but this is the second time I could use one, so I'll buy it.  Will a cheap one work just as good for occasional use?
> > 
> > I do want to get one that can tell if there is a leak as well (built in gauge.)
> > 
> > Will this do the trick?
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1RWAD4EXSCCHM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMyldsCf09mVv52ybxABYDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbsJftxwlgOpRra_5iTFPE4nQwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZkb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7 L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&dib_tag=se&keywords=car%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&qid=1744403070&sprefix=car%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&sr=8-4&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1RWAD4EXSCCHM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMyldsCf09mVv52ybxABYDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbsJftxwlgOpRra_5iTFPE4nQwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZkb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&dib_tag=se&keywords=car%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&qid=1744403070&sprefix=car%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&sr=8-4&th=1
> > 
> > Finally,
> > Anyone in the NJ area that wants to use these ever, swing on by (this is so I can justify the cost!)
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Moose
> > 
> > 
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t I've stepped back from much of the car work due to physical concerns.&nbs=
p; I was planning on retiring this year anyway but got lucky and was offere=
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k that follows a '?' is tracking information that various companies use to =
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ble/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4">https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-De=
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 small;">https://www.amazon.com/Thinkcar-ThinkScan-689-Bidirectional-Diagno=
stic/dp/B0DCFF7VGF/ref=3Dsr_1_8_sspa?dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.lYQwkiu--RYm6Yt-uGP=
K30Bv3wx2aPOZncQOs3-WSx0NUbS9dXU5NLDXomgQCZeb.qs_AKi-xlKGj6QgI_s7OI1lXt3h2x=
IoCyuYzCI8fru4&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dbosch+ads+525x&amp;qid=3D174=
4402691&amp;sr=3D8-8-spons&amp;sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&amp;psc=3D1=
</span></a>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">So, for =
the guy that has to work on everyone's car that knows me. &nbsp;Will the th=
inkcar do the job for a 1/4 of the price (and not have to pay per year?)</s=
pan>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Or is th=
ere a better option?</span>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Note, I'=
ve gone this far without one of these, so it will not be used a ton, but I'=
m guessing I'll need it more and more moving forward.</span>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Next, sm=
oke machine leak detector...</span>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Again, I=
 don't need it often, but this is the second time I could use one, so I'll =
buy it. &nbsp;Will a cheap one work just as good for occasional use?</span>=
=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">I do wan=
t to get one that can tell if there is a leak as well (built in gauge.)</sp=
an>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Will thi=
s do the trick?</span>=20
    <br>
    <br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagno=
stic-Compatible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&amp;dib=3De=
yJ2IjoiMSJ9.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ=
_mMyldsCf09mVv52ybxABYDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbs=
JftxwlgOpRra_5iTFPE4nQwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZ=
kb0MhU2ahkfOxLgjVP7L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&amp;dib_=
tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&amp;qid=3D1=
744403070&amp;sprefix=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&amp;sr=3D8-4&a=
mp;th=3D1"><span style=3D"color: blue; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: =
small;">https://www.amazon.com/AUTOOL-Automotive-Detector-Diagnostic-Compat=
ible/dp/B0BGB41DLK/ref=3Dsr_1_4?crid=3D1RWAD4EXSCCHM&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9=
.-ixQJ35F6pQ1W2mzLt4t0ppkuDp4e5py-xFrW7IGnftqM3WARUHgHEjiXiy0gDZ_mMyldsCf09=
mVv52ybxABYDlgku7_oZ2bXuXs5ZFNi0xOdcAEOn_adBFvRFdUWl2JQhN0ogtWbsJftxwlgOpRr=
a_5iTFPE4nQwOqgv3Cn4y02j696ANNUDEAeXdj-aUpFHLaEC78bg1cFu_EYqobwZkb0MhU2ahkf=
OxLgjVP7 L_w.rd3y-lKbKq3vCiJas-lNhU-CwANjIntKKr4tYcRVbSI&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&a=
mp;keywords=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2Bleak%2Bdetector&amp;qid=3D1744403070&=
amp;sprefix=3Dcar%2Bsmoke%2Bmachine%2B%2Caps%2C463&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;th=3D1<=
/span></a>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Finally,=
</span>=20
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Anyone i=
n the NJ area that wants to use these ever, swing on by (this is so I can j=
ustify the cost!)</span>=20
    <br>
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Thanks!<=
/span>=20
    <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Moose</s=
pan>=20
    <br>
    <br>
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