Subject: [Shop-talk] refurbished/reconditioned computers

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 14:24:44 -0600

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 I've decided to replace my old laptop I asked about a week or so ago with =
a SFF desktop.  Since it's=20
the shop box
I'm gonna upgrade my Dell Optiplex 990 in the house with a newer/faster one=
 and move the house one to the garage
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EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc... Anyone have experience with =
refurbs and a reputable dealers you've=20
used??
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also from what I read  an I5 core is better for normal stuff than an I7 (un=
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you're gaming or doing high end graphics...ideas on that ???
thanks
john
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">&nbsp;I've decided to replace my old laptop I =
asked about a week or so ago with a SFF desktop.&nbsp; Since it's the shop =
box</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm gonna upgrade my Dell Optiplex&nbsp;990 in=
 the house with a newer/faster one and move the house one to the garage</FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc...=
 Anyone have experience with refurbs and a reputable dealers you've used??<=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">also from what I read&nbsp; an I5 core is bett=
er for normal stuff than an I7 (unless you're gaming or doing high end grap=
hics...ideas on that ???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
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From: John Babiarz <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:11:40 +0000 (UTC)

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I've done a ton of refurbs and I'm a (now) retired IT guy. Nothing but good=
 luck with them. I've bought HP, Dell and Lenovo.=C2=A0 All good. Current m=
ain desktop is Lenovo I've had for 4 or 5 yrs. No issues and I tend to beat=
 on it. I've bought primarily from NewEgg or whatever they are now.=C2=A0
You can always buy an extended warranty when you buy the machine if you're =
worried. They generally aren't pricey. Good luck! I wouldn't hesitate with =
a refurb but make sure it's not a bottom end box.

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  On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 4:07 PM, john niolon<[email-masked]> wrote:    =
=C2=A0I've decided to replace my old laptop I asked about a week or so ago =
with a SFF desktop.=C2=A0 Since it's the shop boxI'm gonna upgrade my Dell =
Optiplex=C2=A0990 in the house with a newer/faster one and move the house o=
ne to the garage=C2=A0EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc... Anyone=
 have experience with refurbs and a reputable dealers you've used??=C2=A0al=
so from what I read=C2=A0 an I5 core is better for normal stuff than an I7 =
(unless you're gaming or doing high end graphics...ideas on that ???thanksj=
ohn=C2=A0_______________________________________________

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I've done a ton of refurbs and I'm a (now) retired IT guy. Nothing but good=
 luck with them. I've bought HP, Dell and Lenovo.&nbsp; All good. Current m=
ain desktop is Lenovo I've had for 4 or 5 yrs. No issues and I tend to beat=
 on it. I've bought primarily from NewEgg or whatever they are now.&nbsp;<d=
iv><br></div><div>You can always buy an extended warranty when you buy the =
machine if you're worried. They generally aren't pricey. Good luck! I would=
n't hesitate with a refurb but make sure it's not a bottom end box.<br><br>=
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<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">&nbsp;I've decided to replace my old laptop I =
asked about a week or so ago with a SFF desktop.&nbsp; Since it's the shop =
box</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I'm gonna upgrade my Dell Optiplex&nbsp;990 in=
 the house with a newer/faster one and move the house one to the garage</fo=
nt></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc...=
 Anyone have experience with refurbs and a reputable dealers you've used??<=
/font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">also from what I read&nbsp; an I5 core is bett=
er for normal stuff than an I7 (unless you're gaming or doing high end grap=
hics...ideas on that ???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
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From: Douglas Shook <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 15:10:22 -0800

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For refurbished, I would go with the newest processor you can find, not so
much because of faster processing, but rather so that you can get Windows
11 or whichever operating system you are using and the updates.

MS just decided not to continue most updates to Windows 10 and Windows 11
requires a certain level process for it to be installed.

We just bought my wife a new laptop for this reason.

FWIW, a recent refurbished desktop will provide all the power you need and
they typically will last until they are obsolete for OS issues. Laptops
generally are not as fast and are more prone to wear and tear issues.

best,

doug

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>  I've decided to replace my old laptop I asked about a week or so ago wit=
h
> a SFF desktop.  Since it's the shop box
> I'm gonna upgrade my Dell Optiplex 990 in the house with a newer/faster
> one and move the house one to the garage
>
> EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc... Anyone have experience wit=
h
> refurbs and a reputable dealers you've used??
>
> also from what I read  an I5 core is better for normal stuff than an I7
> (unless you're gaming or doing high end graphics...ideas on that ???
> thanks
> john
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">For=
 refurbished, I would go with the newest processor you can find, not so muc=
h because=C2=A0of faster processing, but rather so that you can get Windows=
 11 or whichever operating system you are using and the updates.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">MS just decided not to continue mos=
t updates to Windows 10 and Windows 11 requires a certain level process for=
 it to be installed.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">We just bought my wife a new laptop for this reason.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small">FWIW, a recent refurbished desktop will provi=
de all the power you need and they typically will last until they are obsol=
ete=C2=A0for OS issues. Laptops generally are not as fast and are more pron=
e to wear and tear issues.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
">best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 1:03=E2=80=AFPM john niolon &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">=C2=A0I&#39;ve decided to replace my old lapto=
p I asked about a week or so ago with a SFF desktop.=C2=A0 Since it&#39;s t=
he shop box</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I&#39;m gonna upgrade my Dell Optiplex=C2=A099=
0 in the house with a newer/faster one and move the house one to the garage=
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">EVERYONE sells refurbs... Amazon, Ebay, etc...=
 Anyone have experience with refurbs and a reputable dealers you&#39;ve use=
d??</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">also from what I read=C2=A0 an I5 core is bett=
er for normal stuff than an I7 (unless you&#39;re gaming or doing high end =
graphics...ideas on that ???</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
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