Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery Testers

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> C7OZ/LlmR6bcDpG8crg7nGVwRN/csOMJs9wJ3JfJntYxZuG76ruADz34eXzTb3vDhkwHQ5rZgX4jP1p1QkeGCinIORp/pDCp6hw=
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The pic is what's commonly called a 'load tester.' They have, for the 
most part, been superseded by solid state 'battery condition testers,' 
which provide much more information (for instance, internal resistance 
and state of charge). I have a load tester on the shelf gathering dust, 
while my condition tester is now my go-to. It doesn't hurt to have both; 
if the load tester you have still functions I'd keep it and get a 
condition tester.

There are dozens on Amazon--all made in you-know-where--here is one from 
a well-known brand  (NFI):

https://www.amazon.com/ANCEL-BA101-Professional-Automotive-Motorcycle/dp/B01M0ARG3X/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2GZVPAZBVO653&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.e2rCyRUQ3ZhLiQyqcZesfbuOqOEQh6W7urr_v0l_we3VAERBxWdLZ1Tufl_-Cw3uUZN2tXeE01xI8jHtlqHIomwWPtTno4pm9IlkkC2fE-w4_5JK_qFvH1esJ_9u0INF6G1Aa82WIbfYHVZxr81vHZcFUSvWk9FNMZ8ORgG7zPDtpxMz_KkX0oxLZZ0VfhXK2PjlGSBkLg2S0rTfdgVcDUK0yQeAQ82sOPVGUiR2dpaIqRh3NbhsOWJP5-lstjvQ6UBQZj45DKMvQItK8cp0zPSV2a9j_Ajn0pVAHRKBKZ0.4l7pp__YxHyaU4Zt9IxXmRnsX8D3GN8GpdZs1-09TyM&dib_tag=se&keywords=battery+condition+tester&qid=1733500109&sprefix=battery+condition+tester%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

ps. There's a reason you only connect a load tester for a few seconds: 
the cables will start to melt.

Bob

On 12/5/2024 8:52 PM, Brian and Wendy Warrick wrote:
> All,
>
> I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car 
> batteries. My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco brands 
> on it (picture attached). He got it a long time ago but it has 
> performed well. I am looking for a good quality version of the same 
> style of tester. I have come across the Milton 1260M. Made in China of 
> course, but does anyone have any experience with this model? Any other 
> recommendations for a good quality tester?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
> Nampa. ID
>
>
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    The pic is what's commonly called a 'load tester.' They have, for
    the most part, been superseded by solid state 'battery condition
    testers,' which provide much more information (for instance,
    internal resistance and state of charge). I have a load tester on
    the shelf gathering dust, while my condition tester is now my go-to.
    It doesn't hurt to have both; if the load tester you have still
    functions I'd keep it and get a condition tester. <br>
    <br>
    There are dozens on Amazon--all made in you-know-where--here is one
    from a well-known brand=C2=A0 (NFI):<br>
    <br>
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C164&amp;sr=3D8-4-spons&amp;sp_csd=3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&amp;psc=3D1"=
>https://www.amazon.com/ANCEL-BA101-Professional-Automotive-Motorcycle/dp=
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    <br>
    ps. There's a reason you only connect a load tester for a few
    seconds: the cables will start to melt.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
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        I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car
        batteries. My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco
        brands on it (picture attached). He got it a long time ago but
        it has performed well. I am looking for a good quality version
        of the same style of tester. I have come across the Milton
        1260M. Made in China of course, but does anyone have any
        experience with this model? Any other recommendations for a good
        quality tester?</div>
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Why not use a digital multi-meter in Volts DC mode?

you can get a decent one for under $40.

I keep one of these in all my road-side tool rolls:  Klein Tools MM325
Multimeter

Currently can be found for $35 on a.co

Just have a helper try to start the car with the DMM set to 20 VDC and
watch the numbers on the LCD screen.

under 12 is not good, under 10 is bad.

  --Miq

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> am looking for a good quality version of the same style of tester. I have
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> any experience with this model? Any other recommendations for a good
> quality tester?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
> Nampa. ID
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tch the numbers on the LCD screen.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>und=
er 12 is not good, under 10 is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 --Miq</=
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I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car batteries.=
 My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco brands on it (picture a=
ttached). He got it a long time ago but it has performed well. I am looking=
 for a good quality version of the
 same style of tester. I have come across the Milton 1260M. Made in China o=
f course, but does anyone have any experience with this model? Any other re=
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Brian</div>
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Brian,

I have been using this Ancel BA101 for the last 4 years. While not as 
dramatic as the Milton when doing a load test, it seems to accurately 
measure the battery condition, and it does other diagnostic checks. 
Priced similarly to the more traditional tools.

https://www.ancel.com/products/ancel-ba101?variant=42376660222108

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    Brian,<br>
    <br>
    I have been using this Ancel BA101 for the last 4 years. While not
    as dramatic as the Milton when doing a load test, it seems to
    accurately measure the battery condition, and it does other
    diagnostic checks. Priced similarly to the more traditional tools.<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ancel.com/products/ancel-ba101?variant=42376660222108">https://www.ancel.com/products/ancel-ba101?variant=42376660222108</a><br>
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        I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car
        batteries. My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco
        brands on it (picture attached). He got it a long time ago but
        it has performed well. I am looking for a good quality version
        of the same style of tester. I have come across the Milton
        1260M. Made in China of course, but does anyone have any
        experience with this model? Any other recommendations for a good
        quality tester?</div>
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I appreciate all the replies. I had never considered one of the newer types=
 since I had always used to resistance load style. I think I will give one =
of the Ancel BA101 a try.

Miq, I usually don't have a helper, so being able to apply the load by your=
self is nice. I have seen batteries that are 12V with no load, but as soon =
as you hit it with a load it is obvious that there is a weak cell or two.

Thanks,

Brian
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Brian,

I have been using this Ancel BA101 for the last 4 years. While not as drama=
tic as the Milton when doing a load test, it seems to accurately measure th=
e battery condition, and it does other diagnostic checks. Priced similarly =
to the more traditional tools.

https://www.ancel.com/products/ancel-ba101?variant=3D42376660222108

I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car batteries.=
 My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco brands on it (picture a=
ttached). He got it a long time ago but it has performed well. I am looking=
 for a good quality version of the same style of tester. I have come across=
 the Milton 1260M. Made in China of course, but does anyone have any experi=
ence with this model? Any other recommendations for a good quality tester?

Thanks,

Brian
Nampa. ID

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I appreciate all the replies. I had never considered one of the newer types=
 since I had always used to resistance load style. I think I will give one =
of the Ancel BA101 a try.</div>
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Miq, I usually don't have a helper, so being able to apply the load by your=
self is nice. I have seen batteries that are 12V with no load, but as soon =
as you hit it with a load it is obvious that there is a weak cell or two.</=
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<div>Brian,<br>
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I have been using this Ancel BA101 for the last 4 years. While not as drama=
tic as the Milton when doing a load test, it seems to accurately measure th=
e battery condition, and it does other diagnostic checks. Priced similarly =
to the more traditional tools.<br>
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/ancel-ba101?variant=3D42376660222108">https://www.ancel.com/products/ancel=
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<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2024 11:52 PM, Brian and Wendy War=
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I am looking t get a battery tester for testing condition of car batteries.=
 My Dad has an older one with the Century and Nesco brands on it (picture a=
ttached). He got it a long time ago but it has performed well. I am looking=
 for a good quality version of the
 same style of tester. I have come across the Milton 1260M. Made in China o=
f course, but does anyone have any experience with this model? Any other re=
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