Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....

From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 22:32:16 -0400

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I have a set of wired Bose headphones from about 2012 (wow) and while =
they work (not 100% noise reduction but enough that I keep using them), =
the wire gets in the way, the fuselage noise gets transmitted directly =
to my skull when I lean against the plane wall, and my ears get sweaty =
since there is no breathability.

I haven't tried anything else yet, but the cool kids are using bluetooth =
earbuds. I hear great things about the Apple Airpods. They can even tell =
when someone is talking to you and will reduce the noise cancellation =
temporarily. But they are easy to lose/forget. Maybe try a super cheap =
pair of wireless earbuds to see what you think for short money?

jim

> On Oct 25, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Tim . <[email-masked]> =
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> .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can =
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> I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.=20
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> I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but =
I would consider wireless.
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> I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on =
other topics, firsthand knowledge.=20
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> My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot =
find any email proof of this.=20
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> Thanks all
> a foggy old man
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I have a set =
of wired Bose headphones from about 2012 (wow) and while they work (not =
100% noise reduction but enough that I keep using them), the wire gets =
in the way, the fuselage noise gets transmitted directly to my skull =
when I lean against the plane wall, and my ears get sweaty since there =
is no breathability.<div><br></div><div>I haven't tried anything else =
yet, but the cool kids are using bluetooth earbuds. I hear great things =
about the Apple Airpods. They can even tell when someone is talking to =
you and will reduce the noise cancellation temporarily. But they are =
easy to lose/forget. Maybe try a super cheap pair of wireless earbuds to =
see what you think for short =
money?</div><div><br></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 25, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Tim . =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div =
class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;">.....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I =
can ask.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
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text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class=3D"elementToProof" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I need noise =
cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><br></div><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;">I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and =
old school ) but I would consider wireless.</div><div =
class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><br></div><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;">I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've =
asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><br></div><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: =
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normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;">My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic =
before but I cannot find any email proof of this.&nbsp;</div><div =
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normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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From: MIQ MILLMAN <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 12:21:29 -0700

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Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks
for audio.

I use these:

https://a.co/d/gKquRdn

They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a
usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.

One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a
replacement memory foam upgrade:

https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx

I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for
over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights
to South Africa.

These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job
and  have excellent sound quality for under $30

I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to
replace the wires when they degraded from over bending.

I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of
international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where
the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort.

ymmv
  --Miq

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:

> .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask.
>
> I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.
>
> I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I
> would consider wireless.
>
> I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on
> other topics, firsthand knowledge.
>
> My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot
> find any email proof of this.
>
> Thanks all
> a foggy old man
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still us=
ing 3.5mm jacks for audio.<div><br></div><div>I use these:</div><div><br></=
div><div><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/gKquRdn">https://a.co/d/gKquRdn</a><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>They have changeable wired connectors that allow m=
e to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or t=
ablet.</div><div><br></div><div>One change I do is swap out the thin silico=
n bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade:</div><div=
><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx">https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx</=
a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve used this most recently on a trip =
to India where I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as we=
ll as a couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great jo=
b and=C2=A0 have excellent sound quality for under $30</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able=
 to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>I&#39;ve been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,0=
00 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying business/f=
irst where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due t=
o comfort.</div><div><br></div><div>ymmv</div><div>=C2=A0 --Miq</div><div><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D=
"msg-6365847683101172807">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
.....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask.=C2=
=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I wo=
uld consider wireless.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I&#39;ve asked before on =
other topics, firsthand knowledge.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
My fogged brain thinks I&#39;ve asked about this topic before but I cannot =
find any email proof of this.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks all</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
a foggy old man</div>
</div>

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From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 14:48:24 -0500

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I bought a set of Anker Q20 headphones.  They have both a wired and
wireless operation and work very well for noise cancelling.  Not too
expensive either.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NM3RSRQ/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_=
title?ie=3DUTF8&th=3D1

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I bought a set of Anker Q20 headphones.=C2=A0 They ha=
ve both a wired and wireless operation and work very well for noise cancell=
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My wife and I have SuperEQ S1 Hybrid Active Noise-Cancelling 
Bluetooth Headphones. They have a jack to used wired, and they come with a adapter to plug into aircraft entertainment systems.
 
Ron

> On 10/25/2024 7:05 PM PDT Tim . <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless.
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> I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. 
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> My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. 
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    I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless.
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    My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this.&nbsp;
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Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for whether the earphones you =
recommended allow enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an =
open car?  I could use something that knocks down the road- and =
wind-noise, but still allows me to hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to =
mention being on the legal side of being able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve =
used similar units in the past, combining basic off-the-shelf earphones =
with custom ear molds.

=20

It would be great to get something that works without a lot of work!!

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All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of MIQ =
MILLMAN
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM
To: Tim . <[email-masked]>
Cc: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....

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Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm =
jacks for audio.

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I use these:

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https://a.co/d/gKquRdn

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They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a =
usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.

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One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal =
with a replacement memory foam upgrade:

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https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx

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I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane =
for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour =
flights to South Africa.

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These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great =
job and  have excellent sound quality for under $30

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I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able =
to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending.

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I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of =
international travel, and used them even when flying business/first =
where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to =
comfort.

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ymmv

  --Miq

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM Tim . =
wrote:

.....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask.=20

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I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I =
would consider wireless.

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Thanks all

a foggy old man

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for =
whether the earphones you recommended allow enough ambient sound in to =
be used when driving an open car?=C2=A0 I could use something that =
knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me to hear =
sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being =
able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve used similar units in the past, combining =
basic off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear =
molds.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>It would be great to =
get something that works without a lot of work!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>-------------=
----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>MIQ MILLMAN<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim . =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] =
reaching out to the collective....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Airplanes are one of the last few things that are =
still using 3.5mm jacks for audio.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
use these:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://a.co/d/gKquRdn">https://a.co/d/gKquRdn</a><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to =
swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or =
tablet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for =
the ear canal with a replacement memory foam =
upgrade:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx">https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx</a><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've used this most recently on a trip to India where =
I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a =
couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam =
they do a great job and&nbsp; have excellent sound quality for under =
$30<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to =
replace the wires when they degraded from over =
bending.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging =
over 150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when =
flying business/first where the airline offers a powered over ear =
headset in the seat, due to comfort.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>ymmv<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; --Miq<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>.....OT ask but =
you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can =
ask.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I need noise =
cancelling head phones for an upcoming =
flight.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I prefer wired =
for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider =
wireless.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I did some google =
searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, =
firsthand knowledge.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>My fogged brain =
thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email =
proof of this.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks =
all<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>a foggy old =
man<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 dB.

If there's a crying kid on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but
still converse with the flight attendant.  However, I pull them out to have
a conversation.

I've never used them while driving, because I don't typically listen to
music on my phone, but also because it's illegal in 1/3 of the States to
have ear buds in while driving.

As a point of reference,  the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for
heavy equipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB.  These
_will_ block horns and distant sirens.

If you live in a state where it's legal to use ear buds, try it out.
  --Miq

On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46=E2=80=AFPM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for whether the earphones you recommen=
ded allow
> enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an open car?  I could use
> something that knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me =
to
> hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being
> able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve used similar units in the past, combining bas=
ic
> off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear molds.
>
>
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *MIQ
> MILLMAN
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM
> *To:* Tim . <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....
>
>
>
> One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with
> a replacement memory foam upgrade:
>
>
>
> https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx
>
>
>
> I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane fo=
r
> These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great jo=
b
> the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort=
.
>
>
>
> ymmv
>
>   --Miq
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.=
com>
> find any email proof of this.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 d=
B.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If there&#39;s a crying kid=
 on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but still converse with th=
e flight attendant.=C2=A0 However, I pull them out to have a conversation.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve never us=
ed them while driving, because I don&#39;t typically listen to music on my =
phone, but also because it&#39;s illegal in 1/3 of the States to have ear b=
uds in while driving.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>As a point of =
reference,=C2=A0 the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for heavy eq=
uipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB.=C2=A0 These _will_ b=
lock horns and distant sirens.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">If you live in a state where it&#39;s legal to use ear b=
uds, try it out.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 --Miq</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46=
=E2=80=AFPM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">alfuller194@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN=
-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div cla=
ss=3D"m_7990028572878735704WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Miq =E2=80=93 do you have any feel for whether the ea=
rphones you recommended allow enough ambient sound in to be used when drivi=
ng an open car?=C2=A0 I could use something that knocks down the road- and =
wind-noise, but still allows me to hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention=
 being on the legal side of being able to hear]. I=E2=80=99ve used similar =
units in the past, combining basic off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear =
molds.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt">It would be great to get something that works witho=
ut a lot of work!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if">-----------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif">All the best,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Al Fuller<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-ser=
if"> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <=
b>On Behalf Of </b>MIQ MILLMAN<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 26, 2024 1=
2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Airplanes are one of the last few things that are st=
ill using 3.5mm jacks for audio.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I use these:<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/gKquRdn" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://a.co/d/gKquRdn</a><u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swa=
p them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One change I do is swap out the thin silic=
on bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade:<u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">I&#39;ve used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in=
 a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ h=
our flights to South Africa.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">These earbud=
s are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and=C2=A0 ha=
ve excellent sound quality for under $30<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to r=
eplace the wires when they degraded from over bending.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ve been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over =
150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying busin=
ess/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, =
due to comfort.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">ymmv<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 --Miq<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 2=
5, 2024 at 7:19<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=
=80=AF</span>PM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:=
solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-righ=
t:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">.....OT ask but you all have more =
knowledge than anyone else I can ask.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I prefer wired for some fool =
reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I did some google searching but prefer, a=
gain, as I&#39;ve asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge.=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">My fogged brain thinks I&#39;ve ask=
ed about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this.=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks all<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">a foggy old man<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
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Thanks for the replies all, especially the (reminder for me) cnet.com one. =
I had forgotten about their reviews.

tim
________________________________
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[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 9:05 PM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective....

uld consider wireless.

I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on othe=
r topics, firsthand knowledge.

My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find=
 any email proof of this.

Thanks all
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Thanks for the replies all, especially the (reminder for me) cnet.com one. =
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[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Tim . &lt;tims_datsun_stuff@outl=
ook.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 25, 2024 9:05 PM<br>
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I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight.&nbsp;</div>
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I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on othe=
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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 10:41:22 -0500

On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 2:33 PM MIQ MILLMAN <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks for audio.
>
> I use these:
>
> https://a.co/d/gKquRdn
>
> They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet.
>
> One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade:

getting proper tips is a huge upgrade for any in-ear ear pod thing.
The stock tips apple puts on their airpods do not fit my ears -- they
don't seal, they fall out, or they're too big and hurt, but a
replacement set of silicone covered foam ones makes them fit
perfectly, good seal,  more sound isolation, and more comfortable. One
travel tip: pack a spare pair, or at least the originals, because they
don't last forever, and you will be very mad if they break at the
start of a flight.  (I learned this hard way...)

Another traveo point: I had over the ear 'phones for a long time.
They work great, but they were annoying on planes, because you can't
lean the side of your head on the wall, it moves the cup and is
uncomfortable.

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