Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Wheeled Jack Stands?

From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 10:26:44 -0500

On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 5:51 PM Tim . <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Anyone have/use wheeled jack stands?
>
> Did you make them or buy them?
>
> I did a quick online search and the little I found were homemade. I would prefer to buy something heavy duty that rolls very easily as the car will need to be on them over winter while I swap the entire rear end.

I have never heard of such a thing.  The idea of working under a car
that could roll is terrifying, and I'd very much worry about the car
alling off the stands when it was rolled.  a quick google turned up
these people: https://pivotalmanufacturing.com/ who make a rolling
base for a normal jack stand (looks like 1/4" plate with six casters,
plus a hook to capture the stand).  I wouldn't work under a vehicle on
them, without locking casters at the very least, but they probably
work for moving the car, if your floor is smooth and flat and clean.

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It sounds like a great idea in principle, but as I think it through - I'm
pretty sure I wouldn't want to work under a car that was up on a platform
that could move. Any casters good enough to provide easy movement of a multi
thousand-pound vehicle would likely move easily when you start applying
torque to parts. [Yes, you could use locking casters - but then you are
betting everything on the locks.]

I have used GoJak brand car dollies, and its amazing how readily the car
will move when on them!  You still need regular jack stands for when you
need to get under the vehicle, but for moving vehicles around they cant be
beat.

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All the best,

Al Fuller

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tim .
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 5:39 AM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wheeled Jack Stands?

I did a quick online search and the little I found were homemade. I would
prefer to buy something heavy duty that rolls very easily as the car will
need to be on them over winter while I swap the entire rear end. 

Thanks

tim

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>It sounds like a great idea in principle, but =
as I think it through &#8211; I&#8217;m pretty sure I wouldn&#8217;t =
want to work under a car that was up on a platform that could move. Any =
casters good enough to provide easy movement of a multi thousand-pound =
vehicle would likely move easily when you start applying torque to =
parts&#8230; [Yes, you could use locking casters &#8211; but then you =
are betting everything on the locks.]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I have used GoJak =
brand car dollies, and its amazing how readily the car will move when on =
them!&nbsp; You still need regular jack stands for when you need to get =
under the vehicle, but for moving vehicles around they cant be =
beat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>-------------=
----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Tim .<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 5, 2024 5:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Shop Talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Shop-talk] Wheeled Jack Stands?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Anyone have/use =
wheeled jack stands?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Did you make them =
or buy them?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I did a quick =
online search and the little I found were homemade. I would prefer to =
buy something heavy duty that rolls very easily&nbsp;as the car will =
need to be on them over winter while I swap the entire rear =
end.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>tim<o:p></o:p></sp=
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 05:34:06 -0700

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My concern here would be trying to move the car on jack stands with
wheels.I would be less worried about the car moving around accidentally.

I have two four-post lifts (Backyard Buddy) that have wheels you can attach
and move the lifts with a car lifted.

Two issues I see trying to do this with jack stands:
1) The wheels on the lifts are large in diameter (over 10") and need to be
in order to move the substantial weight over any chips or cracks in the
concrete. With these very large wheels, it is quite easy for one many to
move the lift around the garage with a car lifted on it. I think it would
be difficult to do so with smaller wheels. In order to move diagonally,
they also would need to be casters.
2) The wheels on the 4-post lifts are firmly attached to the lift, and when
you apply sufficient lateral force to the lift and car to move it, you are
moving the lift with the car on it, all four wheels are locked into the
lift. With wheeled jack stands, you would need to apply lateral pressure to
the car and I would be concerned that the wheeled jack stands would catch
on some irregularity on the floor, or just bind for some reason, stop
moving and tip over from the lateral movement, dropping the car.

Maybe I am missing something here, but I do not think I would try this with
jack stands. Perhaps a scissors lift with wheels where the wheels are
attached to the platform could work?. I think four separate jack stands
each with their own wheels would be a most unstable proposition to try to
move safely.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:29=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> It sounds like a great idea in principle, but as I think it through =E2=
=80=93 I=E2=80=99m
> pretty sure I wouldn=E2=80=99t want to work under a car that was up on a =
platform
> that could move. Any casters good enough to provide easy movement of a
> multi thousand-pound vehicle would likely move easily when you start
> applying torque to parts=E2=80=A6 [Yes, you could use locking casters =E2=
=80=93 but then
> you are betting everything on the locks.]
>
>
>
> need to get under the vehicle, but for moving vehicles around they cant b=
e
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Tim .
> *Sent:* Monday, August 5, 2024 5:39 AM
> *To:* Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] Wheeled Jack Stands?
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My =
concern here would be trying to move the car on jack stands with wheels.I w=
ould be less worried about the car moving around accidentally.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I have two four-post lifts (Backyard =
Buddy) that have wheels you can attach and move the lifts with a car lifted=
.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Two issues I see trying=
 to=C2=A0do this with jack stands:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">1) The wheels on the lifts are large in diameter (over=
 10&quot;) and need to be in order to move the substantial weight over any =
chips or cracks in the concrete. With these very large wheels, it is quite =
easy for one many to move the lift around the garage with a car lifted on i=
t. I think it would be difficult to do so with smaller wheels. In order to =
move diagonally, they also would need to be casters.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small">2) The wheels on the 4-post lifts are=
 firmly attached to the lift, and when you apply sufficient lateral force t=
o the lift and car to move it, you are moving the lift with the car on it, =
all four wheels are locked into the lift. With wheeled jack stands, you wou=
ld need to apply lateral pressure to the car and I would be concerned that =
the wheeled jack stands would catch on some irregularity on the floor, or j=
ust bind for=C2=A0some reason, stop moving and tip over from the lateral mo=
vement, dropping the car.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
>Maybe I am missing something here, but I do not think I would try this wit=
h jack stands. Perhaps a scissors lift with wheels where the wheels are att=
ached to the platform could work?. I think four separate jack stands each w=
ith their own wheels would be a most unstable proposition to try to move sa=
fely.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:29=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@=
gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg4220231486391680210"><div=
 lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_422023=
1486391680210WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11pt">It sounds like a great idea in principle, but as I think it through =
=E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m pretty sure I wouldn=E2=80=99t want to work under a c=
ar that was up on a platform that could move. Any casters good enough to pr=
ovide easy movement of a multi thousand-pound vehicle would likely move eas=
ily when you start applying torque to parts=E2=80=A6 [Yes, you could use lo=
cking casters =E2=80=93 but then you are betting everything on the locks.]<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt">I have used GoJak brand car dollies, and its amazing how readi=
ly the car will move when on them!=C2=A0 You still need regular jack stands=
 for when you need to get under the vehicle, but for moving vehicles around=
 they cant be beat.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">------=
-----------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All the bes=
t,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f">Al Fuller<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bor=
der-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb=
(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim .<br><b>Sent:</b> Mond=
ay, August 5, 2024 5:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sh=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Wheeled Jack Stands?<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">A=
nyone have/use wheeled jack stands?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blac=
k"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Did you make them or bu=
y them?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif;color:black">I did a quick online search and the little I =
found were homemade. I would prefer to buy something heavy duty that rolls =
very easily=C2=A0as the car will need to be on them over winter while I swa=
p the entire rear end.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif;color:black">tim<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div>__________=
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