Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] BT headphones

From: Thomas FitzGibbon <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 11:35:00 -0400 (EDT)

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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I use these for=
 shooting and really like them.&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://goaxil.com/product=
s/gx-extreme">GS Extreme 2.0 Earbuds for Shooting =E2=80=93 AXIL (goaxil.co=
m)</a>&nbsp; They connect to my phone via Bluetooth, so I get all of the au=
dio capability of the phone delivered to them, including music, if you want=
, and phone ringing and text notifications.&nbsp; These also amplify sound =
when not cancelling noise so you can hear what's going on around you withou=
t taking them out.&nbsp; The one caveat I will point out is while they are =
really good at quickly reacting to periodic loud noises, like gunshots, I h=
ave never used them to reduce stained noise and I don't know how they would=
 handle that.&nbsp; I have an old school pair of 3M muffs for sustained noi=
se like yard work that work well, but mine are older and do not connect to =
my phone.</span>
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rust-</span>=20
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   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">I am look=
ing for a pair of heading protection that can link to a cell phone.</span>=
=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Here is w=
hat I am looking for. &nbsp;If I am weed wacking or running a mower, I want=
 something to protect what is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring if I g=
et a phone call.</span>=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Note, I d=
on't need to be able to answer or talk on the phone with them on, just some=
thing that will let me know if I'm getting a phone call. &nbsp;Playing musi=
c from my phone isn't needed, but I guess it would be possible once connect=
ed.</span>=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">The probl=
em is that every headphone I see is made to play music, I just want to make=
 sure it will ring if I get a call. &nbsp;None of the ads mention if they c=
an or not.</span>=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">I don't c=
are if they are muff types or buds (I would prefer buds if they work as goo=
d as muffs.)</span>=20
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   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Active no=
ise canceling is highly preferred.</span>=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">So, does =
anyone have any suggestions? &nbsp;Any thing you are happy with?</span>=20
   <br>
   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Note, I'l=
l pay whatever price for a good set.</span>=20
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   <br><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">Thanks.</=
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 11:43:28 -0400

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Not exactly what you are asking about, but I've had these for 5+ years.
https://www.amazon.com/Otium-Headphones-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Cancelling/dp/=
B0734S1YBS/ref=3Dsr_1_4

Just wear some good-quality earmuffs over them.  They play music, and
interrupt it for notifications and phone calls.

-- Jeff

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 11:22=E2=80=AFAM Moose <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Braintrust-
>
> I am looking for a pair of heading protection that can link to a cell
> phone.
>
> Here is what I am looking for.  If I am weed wacking or running a mower, =
I
> want something to protect what is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring =
if
> I get a phone call.
>
> Note, I don't need to be able to answer or talk on the phone with them on=
,
> just something that will let me know if I'm getting a phone call.  Playin=
g
> music from my phone isn't needed, but I guess it would be possible once
> connected.
>
> The problem is that every headphone I see is made to play music, I just
> want to make sure it will ring if I get a call.  None of the ads mention =
if
> they can or not.
>
> I don't care if they are muff types or buds (I would prefer buds if they
> work as good as muffs.)
>
> Active noise canceling is highly preferred.
>
> So, does anyone have any suggestions?  Any thing you are happy with?
>
> Note, I'll pay whatever price for a good set.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Not exactly what you are asking about, but I&#39;ve had th=
ese for 5+ years.=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Otium-Headph=
ones-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Cancelling/dp/B0734S1YBS/ref=3Dsr_1_4">https://ww=
w.amazon.com/Otium-Headphones-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Cancelling/dp/B0734S1YBS=
/ref=3Dsr_1_4</a><div><br></div><div>Just wear some good-quality earmuffs o=
ver them.=C2=A0 They play music, and interrupt it for notifications and pho=
ne calls.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br><br>-- Jeff</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 11:22=E2=
=80=AFAM Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Braintrust-</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a pair of heading=
 protection
that can link to a cell phone.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is what I am looking for.=C2=
=A0 If
I am weed wacking or running a mower, I want something to protect what
is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring if I get a phone call.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I don&#39;t need to be able =
to answer
or talk on the phone with them on, just something that will let me know
if I&#39;m getting a phone call.=C2=A0 Playing music from my phone isn&#39;=
t needed,
but I guess it would be possible once connected.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">The problem is that every headphon=
e
I see is made to play music, I just want to make sure it will ring if I
get a call.=C2=A0 None of the ads mention if they can or not.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I don&#39;t care if they are muff =
types
or buds (I would prefer buds if they work as good as muffs.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Active noise canceling is highly p=
referred.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, does anyone have any suggestio=
ns?
=C2=A0Any thing you are happy with?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I&#39;ll pay whatever price =
for a
good set.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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I have been using a set of IsoTunes.  They do allow you to hear the phone
ring and answer a call.  I am using the "Pro" wired version.  They have all
the product manuals on their web site so you can read up on how this works
in each version.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have been using a set of IsoTunes.=C2=A0 They do allow y=
ou to hear the phone ring and answer a call.=C2=A0 I am using the &quot;Pro=
&quot; wired version.=C2=A0 They have all the product manuals on their web =
site so you can read up on how this works in each version.<br></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 3=
, 2024 at 10:23=E2=80=AFAM Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">e=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Braintrust-</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a pair of heading=
 protection
that can link to a cell phone.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is what I am looking for.=C2=
=A0 If
I am weed wacking or running a mower, I want something to protect what
is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring if I get a phone call.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I don&#39;t need to be able =
to answer
or talk on the phone with them on, just something that will let me know
if I&#39;m getting a phone call.=C2=A0 Playing music from my phone isn&#39;=
t needed,
but I guess it would be possible once connected.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">The problem is that every headphon=
e
I see is made to play music, I just want to make sure it will ring if I
get a call.=C2=A0 None of the ads mention if they can or not.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I don&#39;t care if they are muff =
types
or buds (I would prefer buds if they work as good as muffs.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Active noise canceling is highly p=
referred.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, does anyone have any suggestio=
ns?
=C2=A0Any thing you are happy with?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Note, I&#39;ll pay whatever price =
for a
good set.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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From: Brian and Wendy Warrick <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 15:58:00 +0000

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I second Tom on the Axil GS Extreme 2.0. Same experience. I use them for sh=
ooting, no experience with sustained noise like mowing the lawn.

Brian
Nampa, ID
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Gibbon <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 9:35 AM
To: Moose <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <[email-masked]=
am.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] BT headphones

Moose,

I use these for shooting and really like them.  GS Extreme 2.0 Earbuds for =
Shooting =96 AXIL (goaxil.com)<https://goaxil.com/products/gx-extreme>  The=
y connect to my phone via Bluetooth, so I get all of the audio capability o=
f the phone delivered to them, including music, if you want, and phone ring=
ing and text notifications.  These also amplify sound when not cancelling n=
oise so you can hear what's going on around you without taking them out.  T=
he one caveat I will point out is while they are really good at quickly rea=
cting to periodic loud noises, like gunshots, I have never used them to red=
uce stained noise and I don't know how they would handle that.  I have an o=
ld school pair of 3M muffs for sustained noise like yard work that work wel=
l, but mine are older and do not connect to my phone.

Tom
On 05/03/2024 11:10 AM EDT Moose <[email-masked]> wrote:

Braintrust-

I am looking for a pair of heading protection that can link to a cell phone=
.

Here is what I am looking for.  If I am weed wacking or running a mower, I =
want something to protect what is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring if=
 I get a phone call.

Note, I don't need to be able to answer or talk on the phone with them on, =
just something that will let me know if I'm getting a phone call.  Playing =
music from my phone isn't needed, but I guess it would be possible once con=
nected.

The problem is that every headphone I see is made to play music, I just wan=
t to make sure it will ring if I get a call.  None of the ads mention if th=
ey can or not.

I don't care if they are muff types or buds (I would prefer buds if they wo=
rk as good as muffs.)

Thanks.

Moose

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I second Tom on the Axil GS Extreme 2.0. Same experience. I use them for sh=
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Brian</div>
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Nampa, ID</div>
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[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Thomas FitzGibbon &lt;fitzgibbon=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 3, 2024 9:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Moose &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked] &lt;Sh=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] BT headphones</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color=
:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Moose,</span> </div>
<div class=3D"x_default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
&nbsp; </div>
<div class=3D"x_default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I use these for shoot=
ing and really like them.&nbsp;
<a href=3D"https://goaxil.com/products/gx-extreme">GS Extreme 2.0 Earbuds f=
or Shooting =96 AXIL (goaxil.com)</a>&nbsp; They connect to my phone via Bl=
uetooth, so I get all of the audio capability of the phone delivered to the=
m, including music, if you want, and phone
 ringing and text notifications.&nbsp; These also amplify sound when not ca=
ncelling noise so you can hear what's going on around you without taking th=
em out.&nbsp; The one caveat I will point out is while they are really good=
 at quickly reacting to periodic loud noises,
 like gunshots, I have never used them to reduce stained noise and I don't =
know how they would handle that.&nbsp; I have an old school pair of 3M muff=
s for sustained noise like yard work that work well, but mine are older and=
 do not connect to my phone.</span>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
&nbsp; </div>
<div class=3D"x_default-style" style=3D"font-size:12pt; font-family:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif; color:#333333">
<span style=3D"font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Tom</span> </div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On 05/03/2024 11:10 AM EDT Moose &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: </di=
v>
<div>&nbsp; </div>
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<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Braintrust-</span> =
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">I am looking for a =
pair of heading protection that can link to a cell phone.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Here is what I am l=
ooking for. &nbsp;If I am weed wacking or running a mower, I want something=
 to protect what is left of my hearing, HOWEVER, will ring if I get a phone=
 call.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Note, I don't need =
to be able to answer or talk on the phone with them on, just something that=
 will let me know if I'm getting a phone call. &nbsp;Playing music from my =
phone isn't needed, but I guess it would
 be possible once connected.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">The problem is that=
 every headphone I see is made to play music, I just want to make sure it w=
ill ring if I get a call. &nbsp;None of the ads mention if they can or not.=
</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">I don't care if the=
y are muff types or buds (I would prefer buds if they work as good as muffs=
.)</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Active noise cancel=
ing is highly preferred.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">So, does anyone hav=
e any suggestions? &nbsp;Any thing you are happy with?</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Note, I'll pay what=
ever price for a good set.</span>
<br>
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<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Thanks.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif; font-size:small">Moose</span> <br>
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From: Jimmie Mayfield <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 13:15:28 -0400

A couple recommendations in no particular order:

1. I have a pair of Etymotic ER4P earphones.  They're wired but you can 
plug them into a $15 BT dongle that you can pair to your phone, answer 
calls, etc.  They don't have active noise cancelling.  They rely on deep 
insertion into your ear canal and some people don't like that.  With 
memory foam tips, they'll give you a level of isolation that I'd 
categorize as "dangerous".  You simply won't hear things around you.  
Even my lawn mower is reduced to a distant hum.  Definitely don't wear 
these while jogging or riding a bicycle.

2. I have a pair of Sony WF-1000xm4 BT earphones.  They pair fine with 
my Android phone.  Active noise-cancellation but they also have an 
"ambient sound" mode where they simply replay the sounds picked up by 
the mic so you can hear conversations around you without removing them.  
With noise-cancellation enabled, I'd still rate them a notch below the 
Etymotics in terms of isolation but they're not bad.  I use these when 
mowing the lawn.  Main complaint is the battery in my left earbud lasts 
about an hour less than the right earbud and, judging from YouTube 
videos, replacing a battery isn't trivial.

J

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