Subject: [Shop-talk] Blue tooth guru or hearing aid experts

From: "john" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 21:42:35 -0600

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I recently replaced my 10 year old non-working hearing airs for some new wh=
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bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D responses by at l=
east 40 percent.  The rest=20
my wife attributes to me being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing=
=2E  =20
ANYWAY
The new units are blue tooth compatible.  My Sony flat screen is also blue=
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tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv through m=
y=20
hearing airs =E2=80=A6Cool, right??
The TV sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue tooth devices    but t=
hey won=E2=80=99t pair up with some cryptic sony code $#^%& or something si=
miliar.  I checked the specs and both accept the same blue tooth =E2=80=98p=
rotocol=E2=80=99 (I don=E2=80=99t know the right word)  all the letters con=
fuse me.  But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but they won=E2=80=99t pair.
Another similar spec is the blue tooth version   one is 4.2 the other is 4.=
2.2.  Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older ??
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Any enlightenment will be appreciated=E2=80=A6 and guidance is needed sever=
ely.   forum content... I watch shop videos on YouTube a lot.
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z bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D responses by at=
 least 40 percent.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The rest =
my wife attributes to me being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing=
=2E<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>ANYWAY</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=3DCalibri>Th=
e new units are blue tooth compatible.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nb=
sp; </SPAN>My Sony flat screen is also blue tooth compatible and I tried to=
 pair the two so I can hear the tv through my hearing airs =E2=80=A6Cool, r=
ight??</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=3DCalibri>Th=
e TV sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue tooth devices&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; but they won=E2=80=99t pair up with some cryptic sony code $#^%&amp=
; or something similiar.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I c=
hecked the specs and both accept the same blue tooth =E2=80=98protocol=E2=
=80=99 (I don=E2=80=99t know the right word)<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: ye=
s">&nbsp; </SPAN>all the letters confuse me.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: ye=
s">&nbsp; </SPAN>But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but they won=E2=80=99t pa=
ir.</FONT></P>
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other similar spec is the blue tooth version<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: ye=
s">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>one is 4.2 the other is 4.2.2.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spa=
cerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the o=
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From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 07:30:35 -0500

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The first thing I (have learned to) do when tech won't cooperate is =
upgrade the firmware/software.=20

Most Bluetooth pairings require a code to be entered on the hub (TV) =
from the satellite (hearing aids). Did the manual come with any mention =
of a code? The logical way would be to enter their code on the TV. This =
is so someone else can't pair your hearing aids to their device =
(accidentally or maliciously).=20

Also the Bluetooth device you're trying to connect to the TV needs to be =
in pairing mode so it listens for something to pair to when you push =
"pair" on the TV. It's not always on - usually it's on for a short time, =
maybe a minute, then it gives up if it doesn't find anything. If you =
miss th ewindow you need to push "pair" again.=20

Maybe you've done all this already but that's my BT knowledge. If that =
doesn't work try asking Google using the model numbers of both. I was =
VERY surprised yesterday when my new Lenovo laptop plugged into the Dell =
docking station could see the monitors but not the keyboard and mouse. I =
Googled with the model numbers and someone had the answer (BIOS security =
setting for the Thunderbolt communication protocol what the ever =
livin...).=20

jim

> On Mar 7, 2024, at 10:42 PM, john <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I recently replaced my 10 year old non-working hearing airs for some =
new whizz bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D =
responses by at least 40 percent.  The rest my wife attributes to me =
being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing.   ANYWAY
>=20
> The new units are blue tooth compatible.  My Sony flat screen is also =
blue tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv =
through my hearing airs =E2=80=A6Cool, right??
>=20
> The TV sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue tooth devices    =
but they won=E2=80=99t pair up with some cryptic sony code $#^%& or =
something similiar.  I checked the specs and both accept the same blue =
tooth =E2=80=98protocol=E2=80=99 (I don=E2=80=99t know the right word)  =
all the letters confuse me.  But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but they =
won=E2=80=99t pair.
>=20
> Another similar spec is the blue tooth version   one is 4.2 the other =
is 4.2.2.  Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older ??
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Any enlightenment will be appreciated=E2=80=A6 and guidance is needed =
severely.   forum content... I watch shop videos on YouTube a lot.
> john
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">The first =
thing I (have learned to) do when tech won't cooperate is upgrade the =
firmware/software.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Most Bluetooth pairings =
require a code to be entered on the hub (TV) from the satellite (hearing =
aids). Did the manual come with any mention of a code? The logical way =
would be to enter their code on the TV. This is so someone else can't =
pair your hearing aids to their device (accidentally or =
maliciously).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Also the Bluetooth device =
you're trying to connect to the TV needs to be in pairing mode so it =
listens for something to pair to when you push "pair" on the TV. It's =
not always on - usually it's on for a short time, maybe a minute, then =
it gives up if it doesn't find anything. If you miss th ewindow you need =
to push "pair" again.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe you've done =
all this already but that's my BT knowledge. If that doesn't work try =
asking Google using the model numbers of both. I was VERY surprised =
yesterday when my new Lenovo laptop plugged into the Dell docking =
station could see the monitors but not the keyboard and mouse. I Googled =
with the model numbers and someone had the answer (BIOS security setting =
for the Thunderbolt communication protocol what the ever =
livin...).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 7, 2024, at 10:42 PM, john =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in =
0in 10pt"><font face=3D"Calibri">I recently replaced my 10 year old =
non-working hearing airs for some new whizz bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve =
reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D responses by at least 40 percent.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The rest my wife attributes to =
me being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>ANYWAY</font></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">The new units are blue tooth compatible.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>My Sony flat screen is also =
blue tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv =
through my hearing airs =E2=80=A6Cool, right??</font></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">The TV sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue =
tooth devices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but they won=E2=80=99t pair up with some =
cryptic sony code $#^%&amp; or something similiar.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>I checked the specs and both =
accept the same blue tooth =E2=80=98protocol=E2=80=99 (I don=E2=80=99t =
know the right word)<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>all =
the letters confuse me.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</span>But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but they won=E2=80=99t =
pair.</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
10pt"><font face=3D"Calibri">Another similar spec is the blue tooth =
version<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>one is 4.2 =
the other is 4.2.2.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</span>Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older =
??</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
10pt"><o:p><font face=3D"Calibri">&nbsp;</font></o:p></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">Any enlightenment will be appreciated=E2=80=A6 and =
guidance is needed severely.&nbsp;&nbsp; forum content... I watch shop =
videos on YouTube a lot.</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"MARGIN:=
 0in 0in 10pt"><font face=3D"Calibri">john =
</font></p></font></div></div>____________________________________________=
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:10:46 -0500

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On 3/7/24 22:42, john wrote:
>
> I recently replaced my 10 year old non-working hearing airs for some 
> new whizz bang ones. I’ve reduced my “HUH?” responses by at least 40 
> percent.The rest my wife attributes to me being hard of listening 
> instead of hard of hearing.ANYWAY
>
> The new units are blue tooth compatible.My Sony flat screen is also 
> blue tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv 
> through my hearing airs …Cool, right??
>
One thing that comes to mind that you may not have considered is that 
since Bluetooth has a range of 40-50 feet, once you get this working, 
you might find that your hearing aids unintentionally pair with the TV 
whenever they're within range.  Suppose you're in your garage having a 
conversation with a neighbor and your wife turns on the TV.  Are your 
hearing aids going to automatically pair with the TV and drown out what 
your neighbor is saying?

How long are the batteries expected to last when Bluetooth is enabled 
(even if not paired)?

J

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/24 22:42, john wrote:<br>
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              face="Calibri">I recently replaced my 10 year old
              non-working hearing airs for some new whizz bang ones.
              I’ve reduced my “HUH?” responses by at least 40 percent.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The rest my wife
              attributes to me being hard of listening instead of hard
              of hearing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>ANYWAY</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">The new units are blue tooth compatible.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>My Sony flat screen
              is also blue tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two
              so I can hear the tv through my hearing airs …Cool,
              right??</font></p>
        </font></div>
    </blockquote>
    One thing that comes to mind that you may not have considered is
    that since Bluetooth has a range of 40-50 feet, once you get this
    working, you might find that your hearing aids unintentionally pair
    with the TV whenever they're within range.  Suppose you're in your
    garage having a conversation with a neighbor and your wife turns on
    the TV.  Are your hearing aids going to automatically pair with the
    TV and drown out what your neighbor is saying?  <br>
    <p>How long are the batteries expected to last when Bluetooth is
      enabled (even if not paired)?</p>
    <p>J</p>
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John,

Do you know if your Sony TV supports this functionality?

That is, I have devices with a bluetooth interface, but they use that 
interface for a remote controller.  They don't have any functionality to 
SEND audio to another bluetooth device, their bluetooth is only intended 
to RECEIVE commands from a remote.

- GeneG

On 3/7/24 19:42, john wrote:
> The TV sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue tooth devices    
> but they won’t pair up with some cryptic sony code $#^%& or something 
> similiar.I checked the specs and both accept the same blue tooth 
> ‘protocol’ (I don’t know the right word)all the letters confuse 
> me.But, they both use A2DP… but they won’t pair.
>
> Another similar spec is the blue tooth versionone is 4.2 the other is 
> 4.2.2.Shouldn’t the newer one grandfather the older ??
>
> Any enlightenment will be appreciated… and guidance is needed 
> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
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    <p>John,</p>
    <p>Do you know if your Sony TV supports this functionality?</p>
    <p>That is, I have devices with a bluetooth interface, but they use
      that interface for a remote controller.  They don't have any
      functionality to SEND audio to another bluetooth device, their
      bluetooth is only intended to RECEIVE commands from a remote.</p>
    <p>- GeneG<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/24 19:42, john wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      cite="mid:1UhRxS1lzu.23DS24xaG3k@johns-desktop">
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">I recently replaced my 10 year old
              non-working hearing airs for some new whizz bang ones.
              I’ve reduced my “HUH?” responses by at least 40 percent.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>The rest my wife
              attributes to me being hard of listening instead of hard
              of hearing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>ANYWAY</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">The new units are blue tooth compatible.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>My Sony flat screen
              is also blue tooth compatible and I tried to pair the two
              so I can hear the tv through my hearing airs …Cool,
              right??</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">The TV sees the hearing aids under it's
              list of blue tooth devices    but they won’t pair up with
              some cryptic sony code $#^%&amp; or something similiar.<span
                style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>I checked the specs
              and both accept the same blue tooth ‘protocol’ (I don’t
              know the right word)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>all
              the letters confuse me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>But,
              they both use A2DP… but they won’t pair.</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">Another similar spec is the blue tooth
              version<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </span>one is
              4.2 the other is 4.2.2.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Shouldn’t
              the newer one grandfather the older ??</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><o:p><font
                face="Calibri"> </font></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">Any enlightenment will be appreciated… and
              guidance is needed severely.   forum content... I watch
              shop videos on YouTube a lot.</font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font
              face="Calibri">john </font></p>
        </font></div>
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I would call the folks who know this stuff=E2=80=A6 Either Sony customer =
support, or the hearing aid manufacturer=E2=80=99s customer support. =
I=E2=80=99m sure they both get such calls daily and know how to get =
their device paired.

=20

FWIW, I just went through this with a Visio sound bar and a TV, and the =
Visio rep walked me through it until things worked!

=20

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All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 7:43 PM
To: shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Blue tooth guru or hearing aid experts

=20

I recently replaced my 10 year old non-working hearing airs for some new =
whizz bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D =
responses by at least 40 percent.  The rest my wife attributes to me =
being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing.   ANYWAY

Another similar spec is the blue tooth version   one is 4.2 the other is =
4.2.2.  Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older ??

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I would call the folks who know this =
stuff=E2=80=A6 Either Sony customer support, or the hearing aid =
manufacturer=E2=80=99s customer support. I=E2=80=99m sure they both get =
such calls daily and know how to get their device =
paired.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>FWIW, I just went =
through this with a Visio sound bar and a TV, and the Visio rep walked =
me through it until things worked!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>-------------=
----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>john<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 7, 2024 7:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Shop-talk] Blue tooth guru or hearing aid =
experts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I recently replaced my 10 =
year old non-working hearing airs for some new whizz bang ones. =
I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D responses by at least 40 =
percent.=C2=A0 The rest my wife attributes to me being hard of listening =
instead of hard of hearing.=C2=A0=C2=A0 ANYWAY</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The new units are blue tooth =
compatible.=C2=A0 My Sony flat screen is also blue tooth compatible and =
I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv through my hearing airs =
=E2=80=A6Cool, right??</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The TV sees the hearing aids =
under it's list of blue tooth devices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but they =
won=E2=80=99t pair up with some cryptic sony code $#^%&amp; or something =
similiar.=C2=A0 I checked the specs and both accept the same blue tooth =
=E2=80=98protocol=E2=80=99 (I don=E2=80=99t know the right word)=C2=A0 =
all the letters confuse me.=C2=A0 But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but =
they won=E2=80=99t pair.</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Another similar spec is the =
blue tooth version=C2=A0=C2=A0 one is 4.2 the other is 4.2.2.=C2=A0 =
Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older ??</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Any enlightenment will be =
appreciated=E2=80=A6 and guidance is needed severely.&nbsp;&nbsp; forum =
content... I watch shop videos on YouTube a lot.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>john </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
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From: gordie bird <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:25:25 -0500

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Oddly enough, I am picking up for my older bro in law what is described =
to me as a TV stick to enable his hearing aid to directly connect his =
TV.  I=E2=80=99m thinking this is similar to an Amazon firestick that =
plugs into an HDMI port. I=E2=80=99ll have more information on this =
later today and can pass it along if you think beneficial.

Gordie

> On Mar 8, 2024, at 7:26=E2=80=AFPM, <[email-masked]> =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I would call the folks who know this stuff=E2=80=A6 Either Sony =
customer support, or the hearing aid manufacturer=E2=80=99s customer =
support. I=E2=80=99m sure they both get such calls daily and know how to =
get their device paired.
> =20
> FWIW, I just went through this with a Visio sound bar and a TV, and =
the Visio rep walked me through it until things worked!
> From: Shop-talk <[email-masked] =
> To: shop-talk <[email-masked] =
> Unsubscribe/Manage: =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Oddly enough, =
I am picking up for my older bro in law what is described to me as a TV =
stick to enable his hearing aid to directly connect his TV. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99=
m thinking this is similar to an Amazon firestick that plugs into an =
HDMI port. I=E2=80=99ll have more information on this later today and =
can pass it along if you think beneficial.<div><br></div><div>Gordie<br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 8, 2024, at 7:26=E2=80=AFPM, =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">I would call the folks who =
know this stuff=E2=80=A6 Either Sony customer support, or the hearing =
aid manufacturer=E2=80=99s customer support. I=E2=80=99m sure they both =
get such calls daily and know how to get their device =
paired.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">FWIW, I just went through this with a Visio =
sound bar and a TV, and the Visio rep walked me through it until things =
worked!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">-----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div><div =
style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; =
border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; =
border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On =
Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>john<br><b>Sent:</b><span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, March 7, 2024 =
7:43 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Shop-talk] Blue tooth guru =
or hearing aid experts<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I =
recently replaced my 10 year old non-working hearing airs for some new =
whizz bang ones. I=E2=80=99ve reduced my =E2=80=9CHUH?=E2=80=9D =
responses by at least 40 percent.&nbsp; The rest my wife attributes to =
me being hard of listening instead of hard of hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
ANYWAY</span><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, =
sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The new units are blue tooth =
compatible.&nbsp; My Sony flat screen is also blue tooth compatible and =
I tried to pair the two so I can hear the tv through my hearing airs =
=E2=80=A6Cool, right??</span><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe =
UI&quot;, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The TV =
sees the hearing aids under it's list of blue tooth =
devices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but they won=E2=80=99t pair up with some =
cryptic sony code $#^%&amp; or something similiar.&nbsp; I checked the =
specs and both accept the same blue tooth =E2=80=98protocol=E2=80=99 (I =
don=E2=80=99t know the right word)&nbsp; all the letters confuse =
me.&nbsp; But, they both use A2DP=E2=80=A6 but they won=E2=80=99t =
pair.</span><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, =
sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Another similar spec is the =
blue tooth version&nbsp;&nbsp; one is 4.2 the other is 4.2.2.&nbsp; =
Shouldn=E2=80=99t the newer one grandfather the older ??</span><span =
style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, =
sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, =
sans-serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Any =
enlightenment will be appreciated=E2=80=A6 and guidance is needed =
severely.&nbsp;&nbsp; forum content... I watch shop videos on YouTube a =
lot.</span><span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, =
sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
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