Subject: [Shop-talk] tv streaming stsuff

From: "john" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 09:21:49 -0500

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AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. They=
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offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 mg=
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internet...
sounded good.
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Then for my local stuff and other their suggested a Roku device.  Bought 3.
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Now upon install I find that channels that were included with Uverse ...i.e=
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Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my=20
wife's favorites)
were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at anywhere bet=
ween 5 and 10 bucks a month...
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Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those channels =
included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and it's=20
mostly down
all the time
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suggestions appreciated
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john
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and I'm going to get back to the Bluetooth hearing aid stuff soon.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing aw=
ay with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option..=
=2Echeaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their sugges=
ted a Roku device.&nbsp; Bought 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that wer=
e included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and o=
thers (all my wife's favorites)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subsc=
ribed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or oth=
er way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spec=
trum locally and it's mostly down</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">and I'm going to get back to the Bluetooth hea=
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 09:52:19 -0500

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Take a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave the full cha=
nnel, they do have at least some of the shows.=20

I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago & set up GetChannels for local stuff (ne=
eds antenna) & stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox & and few ot=
hers. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost of Amazon=
 Prime.=20

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john <[email-masked]> wrote:

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AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. They o=
ffered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 mg in=
ternet...
sounded good.
=20
Then for my local stuff and other their suggested a Roku device.  Bought 3.
=20
Now upon install I find that channels that were included with Uverse ...i.e.=
 Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my wife's favorites)=

were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at anywhere betw=
een 5 and 10 bucks a month...
=20
Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those channels i=
ncluded... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and it's mostly do=
wn
all the time
=20
suggestions appreciated
=20
john
=20
and I'm going to get back to the Bluetooth hearing aid stuff soon.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Take a look @ Amazon prime video. While the=
y don=E2=80=99t rave the full channel, they do have at least some of the sho=
ws.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago &amp; set u=
p GetChannels for local stuff (needs antenna) &amp; stream everything else f=
rom Amazon, PBS, Britbox &amp; and few others. Much cheaper than what I was p=
aying, even including the cost of Amazon Prime.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john &lt;j=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing awa=
y with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option...c=
heaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their suggest=
ed a Roku device.&nbsp; Bought 3.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that were=
 included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and oth=
ers (all my wife's favorites)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subscr=
ibed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or othe=
r way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectr=
um locally and it's mostly down</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">and I'm going to get back to the Bluetooth hear=
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I had DirectTV for years, then switched to Dish a couple years ago. 
Dish, AFAIK, includes the stations you mentioned in the package we have 
(next to the most expensive, about $210/mo). My Dish service includes a 
remote converter (called 'Joey') if your house is wired for it--extra 
charge, of course--but they include Netflix and Prime (and HBO/Max if 
you pay for it) as embedded 'apps' so you don't have to switch TV input 
to Roku (both require your own sub, of course). I have a Roku on a third 
TV in our guest bedroom that rarely gets used.

The Dish user interface is 'prettier' than the DTV but it's buggy as 
hell; for example, setting/deleting recordings is basically a one-click 
operation on DTV but it's cumbersome on Dish, and I've yet to figure out 
how to delete a whole stack of recordings (and when you finally do, it's 
a 'dead end' on the menu!). DTV UI wins hands down, but the Dish DVR 
capacity is larger (IIRC). Dish customer service has been reasonably 
responsive the few times I've used it though, and local channels are 
included in most packages I believe.

My opinion, worth what you paid for it, is keep the AT&T broadband if 
you're happy with it--I use a locally-based radio provider--and try a 
different source for video. I only used my Roku when Dish had a dispute 
with NBC over carrier rights and I had to watch Sunday Night Football on 
Peacock, which I somehow received even though I don't recall ever 
signing up for it, and haven't paid for it AFAIK (don't look a gift 
horse, etc.).

Disclaimer: *I hate AT&T with a passion*, for several reasons but mainly 
because they totally screwed me over years ago and tried to con me into 
paying for Uverse even though many features weren't available in our 
area; their cell phone coverage at least used to be abysmal and I get 
sick of their commercials they play, like, 15 times an hour on the 
financial channel I watch (now, if 'Lily' was to go topless in them  ...).

bs

On 3/22/2024 7:21 AM, john wrote:
> AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. 
> They offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and 
> with 300 mg internet...
> sounded good.
> Now upon install I find that channels that were included with Uverse 
> ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my 
> wife's favorites)
> were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at 
> anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...
> Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those 
> channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally 
> and it's mostly down
> all the time
> suggestions appreciated
> john
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    I had DirectTV for years, then switched to Dish a couple years ago.
    Dish, AFAIK, includes the stations you mentioned in the package we
    have (next to the most expensive, about $210/mo). My Dish service
    includes a remote converter (called 'Joey') if your house is wired
    for it--extra charge, of course--but they include Netflix and Prime
    (and HBO/Max if you pay for it) as embedded 'apps' so you don't have
    to switch TV input to Roku (both require your own sub, of course). I
    have a Roku on a third TV in our guest bedroom that rarely gets
    used. <br>
    <br>
    The Dish user interface is 'prettier' than the DTV but it's buggy as
    hell; for example, setting/deleting recordings is basically a
    one-click operation on DTV but it's cumbersome on Dish, and I've yet
    to figure out how to delete a whole stack of recordings (and when
    you finally do, it's a 'dead end' on the menu!). DTV UI wins hands
    down, but the Dish DVR capacity is larger (IIRC). Dish customer
    service has been reasonably responsive the few times I've used it
    though, and local channels are included in most packages I believe.<br>
    <br>
    My opinion, worth what you paid for it, is keep the AT&amp;T
    broadband if you're happy with it--I use a locally-based radio
    provider--and try a different source for video. I only used my Roku
    when Dish had a dispute with NBC over carrier rights and I had to
    watch Sunday Night Football on Peacock, which I somehow received
    even though I don't recall ever signing up for it, and haven't paid
    for it AFAIK (don't look a gift horse, etc.).<br>
    <br>
    Disclaimer: <b>I hate AT&amp;T with a passion</b>, for several
    reasons but mainly because they totally screwed me over years ago
    and tried to con me into paying for Uverse even though many features
    weren't available in our area; their cell phone coverage at least
    used to be abysmal and I get sick of their commercials they play,
    like, 15 times an hour on the financial channel I watch (now, if
    'Lily' was to go topless in them  ...).<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/2024 7:21 AM, john wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:1UhSDgtz0S.1CjcDrkJPAX@johns-desktop">
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      <div><font face="Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are
          doing away with my U-verse service. They offered Directv
          stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 mg
          internet...</font></div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">sounded good.</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their
          suggested a Roku device.  Bought 3.</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels
          that were included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food
          Network, Fox news and others (all my wife's favorites)</font></div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as
          a subscribed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a
          month...</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device
          or other way to get those channels included... Cable is a
          no-go We only have Spectrum locally and it's mostly down</font></div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">all the time</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">john</font></div>
      <div> </div>
      <div><font face="Segoe UI">and I'm going to get back to the
          Bluetooth hearing aid stuff soon.</font></div>
      <br>
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From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 10:28:42 -0500

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I am actually thinking of dumping Prime.  They recently started showing ads
and now the ads are getting REALLY bad.  tried to watch a 45 minutes show,
ended up having 6 breaks for ads of up 2 minutes each.  I'm not paying for
that.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:21=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> Take a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave the full =
channel,
> they do have at least some of the shows.
>
> I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago & set up GetChannels for local stuff
> (needs antenna) & stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox & and
> few others. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost =
of
> Amazon Prime.
> Pat Horne
> AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. The=
y
> offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 m=
g
> internet...
> sounded good.
>
> Then for my local stuff and other their suggested a Roku device.  Bought =
3.
> ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my wife's
> favorites)
> were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at anywhere
> between 5 and 10 bucks a month...
>
> Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those channel=
s
> included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and it's mostl=
y
> down
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I am actually thinking of dumping Prime.=C2=A0 They recent=
ly started showing ads and now the ads are getting REALLY bad.=C2=A0 tried =
to watch a 45 minutes show, ended up having 6 breaks for ads of up 2 minute=
s each.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not paying for that.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:21=
=E2=80=AFAM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">patintex=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Take a look @ Amazon prime video. While they=
 don=E2=80=99t rave the full channel, they do have at least some of the sho=
ws.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago &amp; set =
up GetChannels for local stuff (needs antenna) &amp; stream everything else=
 from Amazon, PBS, Britbox &amp; and few others. Much cheaper than what I w=
as paying, even including the cost of Amazon Prime.=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"m_3022897612568370873lineBreakAtBegi=
nningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat f=
or Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 22, 2024,=
 at 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF

<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing aw=
ay with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option..=
.cheaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their sugges=
ted a Roku device.=C2=A0 Bought 3.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that wer=
e included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and o=
thers (all my wife&#39;s favorites)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subsc=
ribed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or oth=
er way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spec=
trum locally and it&#39;s mostly down</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">and I&#39;m going to get back to the Bluetooth=
 hearing aid stuff soon.</font></div><span>________________________________=
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We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 years a=
go.  All of the channels you mentioned are included with their base packages=
. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks with no problems=
. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=80=99s operatin=
g system and it works even better on that.  (I even put an old TV in the sho=
p with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)

No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps going up, just like e=
verything else.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2024, at 11:25 AM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave t=
he full channel, they do have at least some of the shows.=20
>=20
> I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago & set up GetChannels for local stuff (=
needs antenna) & stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox & and few o=
thers. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost of Amazo=
n Prime.=20
> AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. They=
 offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 mg i=
nternet...
> sounded good.
> =20
> Then for my local stuff and other their suggested a Roku device.  Bought 3=
.
> =20
> Now upon install I find that channels that were included with Uverse ...i.=
e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my wife's favorite=
s)
> were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at anywhere be=
tween 5 and 10 bucks a month...
> =20
> Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those channels=
 included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and it's mostly d=
own
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">We tried several streaming services and swi=
tched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 years ago. &nbsp;All of the channels you mentioned=
 are included with their base packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and v=
ia Amazon Firesticks with no problems. That said, we recently bought a new T=
V that used Google=E2=80=99s operating system and it works even better on th=
at. &nbsp;(I even put an old TV in the shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)<=
div><br></div><div>No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps g=
oing up, just like everything else.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2024=
, at 11:25 AM, Pat Horne &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></block=
quote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-e=
quiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Take a look @ A=
mazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave the full channel, they do h=
ave at least some of the shows.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I got rid of Dish a=
bout 3 years ago &amp; set up GetChannels for local stuff (needs antenna) &a=
mp; stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox &amp; and few others. M=
uch cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost of Amazon Prime.=
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBe=
ginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat f=
or Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 22, 2024, a=
t 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<meta name=3D"GENERATOR" content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.10570.1001">

<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing awa=
y with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option...c=
heaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their suggest=
ed a Roku device.&nbsp; Bought 3.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that were=
 included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and oth=
ers (all my wife's favorites)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subscr=
ibed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or othe=
r way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectr=
um locally and it's mostly down</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">and I'm going to get back to the Bluetooth hear=
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We ditched Dish &/or DirectTV a few years ago. Their price kept climbing
(even though 'new' customers got a break) and the signal would be lost at
the mere prediction of rain.

We switched to Spectrum and tried their TV service. The connection was good
but again, the price kept climbing once we were no longer 'new'.

About a year ago we cancelled the Spectrum TV and now use You Tube TV.
There is a fee for the service - which we share with our son-in-law. The
one downside is we are halfway between Raleigh & Greensboro, North
Carolina. Depending on where our internet cable makes its connection our
local channels vary between the two cities. I haven't figured out how to
make it choose one or the other.

EjR

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:20=E2=80=AFPM Jim Stone <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 year=
s
> ago.  All of the channels you mentioned are included with their base
> packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks with =
no
> problems. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=80=
=99s
> operating system and it works even better on that.  (I even put an old TV
> in the shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)
>
> No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps going up, just
> like everything else.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> =EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave =
the full channel,
of
y
g
3.
s
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">We =
ditched Dish &amp;/or DirectTV a few years ago. Their price kept climbing (=
even though &#39;new&#39; customers got a break) and the signal would be lo=
st at the mere prediction of rain.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:large">We switched to Spectrum and tried their TV service. The con=
nection was good but again, the price kept climbing once we were no longer =
&#39;new&#39;.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:l=
arge"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Abou=
t a year ago we cancelled the Spectrum TV and now use You Tube TV. There is=
 a fee for the service - which we share with our son-in-law. The one downsi=
de is we are halfway between Raleigh &amp; Greensboro, North Carolina. Depe=
nding on where our internet cable makes its connection our local channels=
=C2=A0vary between the two cities. I haven&#39;t figured out how to make it=
 choose one or the other.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:20=E2=80=AFPM Jim Stone &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"a=
uto">We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 y=
ears ago.=C2=A0 All of the channels you mentioned are included with their b=
ase packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks wit=
h no problems. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=
=80=99s operating system and it works even better on that. =C2=A0(I even pu=
t an old TV in the shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)<div><br></div><div>=
No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps going up, just like=
 everything else.=C2=A0<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2024, at 11:25 AM, =
Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">pa=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. Whi=
le they don=E2=80=99t rave the full channel, they do have at least some of =
the shows.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago &am=
p; set up GetChannels for local stuff (needs antenna) &amp; stream everythi=
ng else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox &amp; and few others. Much cheaper than w=
hat I was paying, even including the cost of Amazon Prime.=C2=A0</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Peace, Pat</div><div><br id=3D"m_-4844859447228063063lineBre=
akAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support H=
abitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 2=
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> On 03/22/2024 11:10 AM EDT Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>  
>  
> <snip> (now, if 'Lily' was to go topless in them  ...).
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> bs
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Well, after being a dumba** I finally called DirectTV for help. My slow old=
=20
brain was telling me my dumb tvs were actually smart tvs with the ROKU boxe=
s
=20
RDirecttv rep agreed and showed me how to access and set them up
=20
I'm streaming big time now, baby
=20
thanks for all the suggestions=E2=80=A6 I'll save=20
the info if I need a change in the future
=20
john

=20

----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Russell <[email-masked]>
To: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Cc: shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Sent: 3/22/2024 11:37:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tv streaming stsuff

We ditched Dish &/or DirectTV a few years ago. Their price kept climbing (e=
ven=20
though 'new' customers got a break) and the signal would be lost at the mer=
e=20
prediction of rain.=20

We switched to Spectrum and tried their TV service. The connection was good=
 but=20
again, the price kept climbing once we were no longer 'new'.=20

About a year ago we cancelled the Spectrum TV and now use You Tube TV. Ther=
e is=20
a fee for the service - which we share with our son-in-law. The one downsid=
e is=20
we are halfway between Raleigh & Greensboro, North Carolina. Depending on w=
here=20
our internet cable makes its connection our local channels vary between the=
 two=20
cities. I=20
haven't figured out how to make it choose one or the other.=20

EjR=20

We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 years =
ago.  All of the channels you mentioned are included with their base packag=
es. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks with no probl=
ems. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=80=99s oper=
ating system and it works even better on that.  (I even put an old TV in th=
e shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)=20

 everything else.=20

Sent from my iPhone

=EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave th=
e full channel, they do have at least some of the shows. =20

I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago & set up GetChannels for local stuff (n=
eeds antenna) & stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britbox & and few =
others. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost of Ama=
zon Prime.=20

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne =20

=EF=BB=BF=20
AT&T contacted me saying they are doing away with my U-verse service. They =
offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with 300 mg =
internet...
sounded good.
=20
Then for my local stuff and other their suggested a Roku device.  Bought 3.
=20
Now upon install I find that channels that were included with Uverse ...i.e=
=2E Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and others (all my wife's=20
favorites)
were not included but only supplied as a subscribed service at anywhere bet=
ween=20
5 and 10 bucks a month...
=20
Looking for alternatives to Roku device or other way to get those channels=
=20
included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and=20
it's mostly down
all the time
=20
suggestions appreciated
=20
john
=20
and I'm=20
going to get back to the Bluetooth hearing aid stuff soon.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Well, after being a dumba** I finally called D=
irectTV for help. My slow old brain was telling me my dumb tvs were actuall=
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[email-masked]</A>&gt;</DIV>
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large">We ditched Dish &amp;=
/or DirectTV a few years ago. Their price kept climbing (even though 'new' =
customers got a break) and the signal would be lost at the mere prediction =
of rain.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large">We switched to Spectr=
um and tried their TV service. The connection was good but again, the price=
 kept climbing once we were no longer 'new'.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large">About a year ago we c=
ancelled the Spectrum TV and now use You Tube TV. There is a fee for the se=
rvice - which we share with our son-in-law. The one downside is we are half=
way between Raleigh &amp; Greensboro, North Carolina. Depending on where ou=
r internet cable makes its connection our local channels&nbsp;vary between =
the two cities. I haven't figured out how to make it choose one or the othe=
r.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large"><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default style=3D"FONT-SIZE: large">EjR&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>=
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:20=E2=80=AFPM =
Jim Stone &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 y=
ears ago.&nbsp; All of the channels you mentioned are included with their b=
ase packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks wit=
h no problems. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=
=80=99s operating system and it works even better on that. &nbsp;(I even pu=
t an old TV in the shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps going up, just=
 like everything else.&nbsp;<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2024, at 11:25 AM, Pat Horne &lt;<A hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</=
A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=
=80=99t rave the full channel, they do have at least some of the shows.&nbs=
p;=20
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago &amp; set up GetChannels for local=
 stuff (needs antenna) &amp; stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britb=
ox &amp; and few others. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even includin=
g the cost of Amazon Prime.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Peace, Pat</DIV>
<DIV><BR id=3Dm_-4844859447228063063lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Pat Horne&nbsp;=20
<DIV>We support Habitat for Humanity</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john &lt;<A href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>=
<BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>=EF=BB=BF=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing aw=
ay with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option..=
=2Echeaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their sugges=
ted a Roku device.&nbsp; Bought 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that wer=
e included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and o=
thers (all my wife's favorites)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subsc=
ribed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or oth=
er way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spec=
trum locally and it's mostly down</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">john</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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I have found that if you subscribe to YouTube Premium for $12/month, they
give you access to YouTube TV, which normally costs $72/month.  They also
let me access YouTube Music.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 3:45 PM john <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Well, after being a dumba** I finally called DirectTV for help. My slow
> old brain was telling me my dumb tvs were actually smart tvs with the ROK=
U
> boxes
> thanks for all the suggestions=E2=80=A6 I'll save the info if I need a ch=
ange in
> the future
>
> john
>
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* Eric Russell <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* shop-talk <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* 3/22/2024 11:37:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] tv streaming stsuff
> ------------------------------
> We switched to Spectrum and tried their TV service. The connection was
> good but again, the price kept climbing once we were no longer 'new'.
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:20=E2=80=AFPM Jim Stone <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>
>> We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5
>> years ago.  All of the channels you mentioned are included with their ba=
se
>> packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks with=
 no
=99s
>> operating system and it works even better on that.  (I even put an old T=
V
>> =EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=E2=80=99t rave=
 the full
>> channel, they do have at least some of the shows.
>>
>> few others. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even including the cost=
 of
>> They offered Directv stream as my best option...cheaper, faster and with
>> 300 mg internet...
>> sounded good.
>>
>> channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spectrum locally and
>> it's mostly down
>> all the time
>>
>> suggestions appreciated
>>
>> john
>>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I have found that if you subscribe to YouTube Premium for=
 $12/month, they give you access to YouTube TV, which normally costs $72/mo=
nth.=C2=A0 They also let me access YouTube Music.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 22=
, 2024, 3:45 PM john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Well, after being a dumba** I finally called D=
irectTV for help. My slow old brain was telling me my dumb tvs were actuall=
y smart tvs with the ROKU boxes</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">RDirecttv rep agreed and showed me how to acce=
ss and set them up</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I&#39;m streaming big time now, baby</font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks for all the suggestions=E2=80=A6 I&#39;=
ll save the info if I need a change in the future</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0.5em;=
BORDER-LEFT:#c7e5ff 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.5em;PADDING-RIGHT:0px">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>----- Original Message -----</b></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>From:</b> Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>To:</b> Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>Cc:</b> shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>Sent:</b> 3/22/2024 11:37:08 AM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Segoe UI&#39;;COLOR:#000000">=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] tv streaming stsuff</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large">We ditched Dish &amp=
;/or DirectTV a few years ago. Their price kept climbing (even though &#39;=
new&#39; customers got a break) and the signal would be lost at the mere pr=
ediction of rain.=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large">We switched to Spect=
rum and tried their TV service. The connection was good but again, the pric=
e kept climbing once we were no longer &#39;new&#39;.=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large">About a year ago we =
cancelled the Spectrum TV and now use You Tube TV. There is a fee for the s=
ervice - which we share with our son-in-law. The one downside is we are hal=
fway between Raleigh &amp; Greensboro, North Carolina. Depending on where o=
ur internet cable makes its connection our local channels=C2=A0vary between=
 the two cities. I haven&#39;t figured out how to make it choose one or the=
 other.=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div=
><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:20=E2=80=
=AFPM Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb=
(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
<div>We tried several streaming services and switched to YouTubeTV 4 or 5 y=
ears ago.=C2=A0 All of the channels you mentioned are included with their b=
ase packages. We watched it on both a Roku TV and via Amazon Firesticks wit=
h no problems. That said, we recently bought a new TV that used Google=E2=
=80=99s operating system and it works even better on that. =C2=A0(I even pu=
t an old TV in the shop with a Firestick. =F0=9F=98=84)=20
<div><br></div>
<div>No complaints, other than the fact that the price keeps going up, just=
 like everything else.=C2=A0<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 22, 2024, at 11:25 AM, Pat Horne &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">pa=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFTake a look @ Amazon prime video. While they don=
=E2=80=99t rave the full channel, they do have at least some of the shows.=
=C2=A0=20
<div><br></div>
<div>I got rid of Dish about 3 years ago &amp; set up GetChannels for local=
 stuff (needs antenna) &amp; stream everything else from Amazon, PBS, Britb=
ox &amp; and few others. Much cheaper than what I was paying, even includin=
g the cost of Amazon Prime.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Peace, Pat</div>
<div><br id=3D"m_4651459629898133077m_-4844859447228063063lineBreakAtBeginn=
ingOfSignature">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0=20
<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 22, 2024, at 9:36=E2=80=AFAM, john &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jniolon@at=
t.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=20
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">AT&amp;T contacted me saying they are doing aw=
ay with my U-verse service. They offered Directv stream as my best option..=
.cheaper, faster and with 300 mg internet...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">sounded good.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Then for my local stuff and other their sugges=
ted a Roku device.=C2=A0 Bought 3.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Now upon install I find that channels that wer=
e included with Uverse ...i.e. Hallmark, HGTV, Food Network, Fox news and o=
thers (all my wife&#39;s favorites)</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">were not included but only supplied as a subsc=
ribed service at anywhere between 5 and 10 bucks a month...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Looking for alternatives to Roku device or oth=
er way to get those channels included... Cable is a no-go We only have Spec=
trum locally and it&#39;s mostly down</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">all the time</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">suggestions appreciated</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
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