Subject: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix

From: Moose <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:50 -0500 02/20/2024 08:02:07 PM

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Guy,

I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel and it currently has a transmission 
leak.

2 different truck mechanics expressed concerns with part availability if 
they take it apart to fix it.

This truck is my personal dive rescue truck (see photo.) So it normally 
has the camper loaded with gear.  It also tows lighter boats and jet skis.

Here is my question, do I try Lucas Transmission Fix?

Or do I take my chances and have a place tear into this truck's 
transmission? (will they be able to get the parts to fix it?

Thanks in advance.

Moose
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Guy,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel
and it currently has a transmission leak.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2 different truck mechanics expressed
concerns with part availability if they take it apart to fix it.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This truck is my personal dive rescue
truck (see photo.) So it normally has the camper loaded with gear. &nbsp;It
also tows lighter boats and jet skis.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Here is my question, do I try Lucas
Transmission Fix?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Or do I take my chances and have a place
tear into this truck's transmission? (will they be able to get the parts
to fix it?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks in advance.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
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From: "Matt" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:04:45 GMT

Nice looking rig Moose!  I sold my slide in when I left Alaska.  I like the front bumper.
Looks just like my 97 12 valve with 5 speed. Like Doug I am shocked that there are supportability concerns.  I would think some of the ram forums would help clarify that concern. Perhaps the VIN can identify exactly what model trans you have.

I doubt there is much downside to trying the Lucas addative. 

Good luck and keep us in the loop on it!  I am aboyt to dump a load of $$ into mine. It has been neglected but still soldiers on.

Matt

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Moose <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:50 -0500

Guy,

I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel
and it currently has a transmission leak.

2 different truck mechanics expressed
concerns with part availability if they take it apart to fix it.

This truck is my personal dive rescue
truck (see photo.) So it normally has the camper loaded with gear.  It
also tows lighter boats and jet skis.

Here is my question, do I try Lucas
Transmission Fix?

Or do I take my chances and have a place
tear into this truck's transmission? (will they be able to get the parts
to fix it?

Thanks in advance.

Moose

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:47:31 -0500 02/21/2024 10:47:47 AM, Serialize complete at 02/21/2024 10:47:47 AM

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Matt,  Doug and everyone else.

Thanks for the advice.  I ordered a bottle and let you all know how it 
goes.

I really hate leaks in any equipment.  In fact I wish all mechanical 
engines didn't need any fluids at all!  8>)

I'll be supporting a Polar Plunge on Sat, so I'll wait until after that to 
add it.  Should know by next week.

Thanks again.

Moose

From:   "Matt" <[email-masked]>
To:     [email-masked]
Cc:     [email-masked]
Date:   02/21/2024 10:05 AM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix

Nice looking rig Moose!  I sold my slide in when I left Alaska.  I like 
the front bumper.
Looks just like my 97 12 valve with 5 speed. Like Doug I am shocked that 
there are supportability concerns.  I would think some of the ram forums 
would help clarify that concern. Perhaps the VIN can identify exactly what 
model trans you have.

Good luck and keep us in the loop on it!  I am aboyt to dump a load of $$ 
into mine. It has been neglected but still soldiers on.

Matt

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Moose <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:50 -0500

Guy,

Thanks in advance.

Moose

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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Matt, &nbsp;Doug and everyone else.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Thanks for the advice. &nbsp;I ordered a bottle and let you all know how
it goes.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I really hate leaks in any equipment.
&nbsp;In fact I wish all mechanical engines didn't need any fluids at all!
&nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'll be supporting a Polar Plunge on
Sat, so I'll wait until after that to add it. &nbsp;Should know by next
week.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks again.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
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&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;Matt&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font>
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&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[email-masked]</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[email-masked]</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;
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Lucas Transmission Fix</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Nice looking rig Moose! &nbsp;I sold my slide in when
I left Alaska. &nbsp;I like the front bumper.<br>
Looks just like my 97 12 valve with 5 speed. Like Doug I am shocked that
there are supportability concerns. &nbsp;I would think some of the ram
forums would help clarify that concern. Perhaps the VIN can identify exactly
what model trans you have.<br>
<br>
I doubt there is much downside to trying the Lucas addative. <br>
<br>
Good luck and keep us in the loop on it! &nbsp;I am aboyt to dump a load
of $$ into mine. It has been neglected but still soldiers on.<br>
<br>
Matt<br>
<br>
<br>
---------- Original Message ----------<br>
From: Moose &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:50 -0500<br>
<br>
Guy,<br>
<br>
I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel<br>
and it currently has a transmission leak.<br>
<br>
2 different truck mechanics expressed<br>
concerns with part availability if they take it apart to fix it.<br>
<br>
This truck is my personal dive rescue<br>
truck (see photo.) So it normally has the camper loaded with gear. &nbsp;It<br>
also tows lighter boats and jet skis.<br>
<br>
Here is my question, do I try Lucas<br>
Transmission Fix?<br>
<br>
Or do I take my chances and have a place<br>
tear into this truck's transmission? (will they be able to get the parts<br>
to fix it?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
Moose<br>
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From: Joe Szwed <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:38:42 -0500

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Personally, I have had good luck with some of Lucas's products and I
wouldn't hesitate to see if it helps.
But that is just based on my own experience.

Joe

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Personally, I have had good luc=
k with some of Lucas&#39;s products and I wouldn&#39;t hesitate to see if i=
t=C2=A0helps.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdan=
a,sans-serif">But that is just based on my own experience.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Joe</div><=
br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:01:50 -0500<br>
From: Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">eric=
@megageek.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk=
@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">OF96D=
[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br>
<br>
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Guy,<br>
<br>
I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel and it currently has a transmission =
<br>
leak.<br>
<br>
2 different truck mechanics expressed concerns with part availability if <b=
r>
they take it apart to fix it.<br>
<br>
This truck is my personal dive rescue truck (see photo.) So it normally <br=
has the camper loaded with gear.=C2=A0 It also tows lighter boats and jet s=
kis.<br>
<br>
Here is my question, do I try Lucas Transmission Fix?<br>
<br>
Or do I take my chances and have a place tear into this truck&#39;s <br>
transmission? (will they be able to get the parts to fix it?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
Moose<br><br>
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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 22:22:17 -0800

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> On Feb 21, 2024, at 07:03, old dirtbeard <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Moose,
>=20
> Yes, when someone does not want to take your money for doing the work they=
 normally would do, that says something.=20
>=20
> If it is just a seal, though, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals from=
 some company that makes them. Perhaps you could find the specs for the seal=
 and look-up industrial supply companies and try to match it? We do this for=
 bearings and seals for the old British stuff.
>=20

There are a whole lot of parts that are basically impossible to get on newis=
h vehicles[1], but rebuild transmissions for both the G56 6 speed stick and t=
he 68rfe seem to be readily available, if uncheap. If the truck has the g56,=
 I=E2=80=99m not at all surprised that shops don=E2=80=99t want to touch it.=
 It has a reputation for being hard to work on, it requires special tools fo=
r many jobs, and they are prone to catastrophic failure. =20

[1] a high school acquaintance of mine had a fancy suv (a Lexus or Acura) to=
taled by an insurance company, after someone hit him in a parking lot. The o=
nly damage was the glass of one headlight was broken.  A factory replacement=
 was not available for 18 months, and he refused to having a used or afterma=
rket part installed (Indiana law gives you the right to insist on new parts,=
 on cars less than 5(?) years old. ) The truck was only a year or so old, an=
d still in production.

  for some reason, the insurance company did not want to pay for months of r=
ental car, and totaled the car. This was near the peak of crazy used car pri=
ces, so they paid him substantially more than he gave the dealer for it.=20

> Again, though, if the repair garages do not want to work on it, there prob=
ably is some sound reason(s).
>=20
> I have an engine rear main seal leak on my '03 GMC Savana and used a seal l=
eak additive which did stop the leak for a while, but it has returned.=20
>=20
>=20
> After a few months of local driving (a few hundred miles) I noticed the oi=
l pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter and the oil press=
ure went back to normal.
>=20
> I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was plugging the filter as w=
ell as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about using anything like=
 this again.

This is totally consistent with how most stop leak products work.  I would o=
nly use one on an engine that=E2=80=99s already toast.=20

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 21, 2024, at 07=
:03, old dirtbeard &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi Moose,</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small">Yes, when someone does not want to take y=
our money for doing the work they normally would do, that says something.&nb=
sp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If it is just a seal, t=
hough, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals from some company that makes t=
hem. Perhaps you could find the specs for the seal and look-up industrial su=
pply companies and try to match it? We do this for bearings and seals for th=
e old British stuff.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sm=
all"><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There are a whol=
e lot of parts that are basically impossible to get on newish vehicles[1], b=
ut rebuild transmissions for both the G56 6 speed stick and the 68rfe seem t=
o be readily available, if uncheap. If the truck has the g56, I=E2=80=99m no=
t at all surprised that shops don=E2=80=99t want to touch it. It has a reput=
ation for being hard to work on, it requires special tools for many jobs, an=
d they are prone to catastrophic failure. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>[1=
] a high school acquaintance of mine had a fancy suv (a Lexus or Acura) tota=
led by an insurance company, after someone hit him in a parking lot. The onl=
y damage was the glass of one headlight was broken. &nbsp;A factory replacem=
ent was not available for 18 months, and he refused to having a used or afte=
rmarket part installed (Indiana law gives you the right to insist on new par=
ts, on cars less than 5(?) years old. )<span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0,=
 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">&nbsp;The truck was only a year or so old, and st=
ill in production.</span></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;for some reas=
on, the insurance company did not want to pay for months of rental car, and t=
otaled the car. This was near the peak of crazy used car prices, so they pai=
d him substantially more than he gave the dealer for it.&nbsp;</div><div><br=
></div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Again, though, if the repai=
r garages do not want to work on it, there probably is some sound reason(s).=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I have an engine rear main s=
eal leak on my '03 GMC Savana and used a seal leak additive which did stop t=
he leak for a while, but it has returned.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">After a few months of local&nbsp;driving (a few hundred miles) I n=
oticed the oil pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter and t=
he oil pressure went back to normal.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was plugging the fi=
lter as well as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about using anyt=
hing like this again.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>This is t=
otally consistent with how most stop leak products work. &nbsp;I would only u=
se one on an engine that=E2=80=99s already toast.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><=
br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></blockquote></=
div></div></body></html>=

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