Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix

From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 04:53:33 -0800

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Hi Moose,

First off let me say that I am not experienced with Ram and do not speak
from any hands-on knowledge.

Generally speaking, I am surprised that there would be parts availability
issues for a 2007 transmission. Maybe yours was a more limited, heavy-duty
run or something.

Is it a module or valve leaking or a gasket/seal issue?

Lucas might work, but I believe it plugs leaks by either softening seal
rubbers or by floating some paticulants in the oil that
hopefully/eventually find their way into the leak.

My guess is that it may work, or may reduce the leak, but that it would not
be a permanent fix.

If the leak is not too bad, perhaps just live with it, put a drip tray
under it like we do with many/most of our old British cars. ;-)

Or if you want to open it up, you might want to try to source the likely
necessary parts before you commence work.

There also may be used parts availability. Maybe pick-up a used
transmission from a salvage yard to swap in or to use for parts?.

It is disappointing to me that parts are a problem for a US vehicle that is
this new. I can still source most any parts I need for my 70-year-old MG TF=
.

I do wish you the best with this one, Moose.

doug

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:09=E2=80=AFPM Moose <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Guy,
>
> I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel and it currently has a transmissio=
n
> leak.
>
> 2 different truck mechanics expressed concerns with part availability if
> they take it apart to fix it.
>
> This truck is my personal dive rescue truck (see photo.) So it normally
> has the camper loaded with gear.  It also tows lighter boats and jet skis=
.
>
> Here is my question, do I try Lucas Transmission Fix?
>
> Or do I take my chances and have a place tear into this truck's
> transmission? (will they be able to get the parts to fix it?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Moose,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">First off let me s=
ay that I am not experienced with Ram and do not speak from any hands-on kn=
owledge.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Generally speaki=
ng, I am surprised that there would be parts availability issues for a 2007=
 transmission. Maybe yours was a more limited, heavy-duty run or something.=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Is it a module or =
valve leaking=C2=A0or a gasket/seal issue?=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small">Lucas might work, but I believe it plugs leaks by e=
ither softening seal rubbers or by floating some paticulants in the oil tha=
t hopefully/eventually find their way into the leak.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-size:small">My guess is that it may work, or may reduce the=
 leak, but that it would not be a permanent fix.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small">If the leak is not too bad, perhaps just live with =
it, put a drip tray under it like we do with many/most of our old British c=
ars. ;-)=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Or if you =
want to open it up, you might want to try to source the likely necessary pa=
rts before you commence work.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small">There also may be used parts availability. Maybe pick-up a used =
transmission from a salvage yard to=C2=A0swap in or to use for parts?.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">It is disappointing to me tha=
t parts are a problem for a US vehicle that is this new. I can still source=
 most any parts I need for my 70-year-old MG TF.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small">I do wish you the best with this one, Moose.</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:09=
=E2=80=AFPM Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Guy,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie di=
esel
and it currently has a transmission leak.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">2 different truck mechanics expres=
sed
concerns with part availability if they take it apart to fix it.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">This truck is my personal dive res=
cue
truck (see photo.) So it normally has the camper loaded with gear.=C2=A0 It
also tows lighter boats and jet skis.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is my question, do I try Luca=
s
Transmission Fix?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Or do I take my chances and have a=
 place
tear into this truck&#39;s transmission? (will they be able to get the part=
s
to fix it?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks in advance.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>______________________=
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
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Hi Moose,

Yes, when someone does not want to take your money for doing the work they
normally would do, that says something.

If it is just a seal, though, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals from
some company that makes them. Perhaps you could find the specs for the seal
and look-up industrial supply companies and try to match it? We do this for
bearings and seals for the old British stuff.

Again, though, if the repair garages do not want to work on it, there
probably is some sound reason(s).

I have an engine rear main seal leak on my '03 GMC Savana and used a seal
leak additive which did stop the leak for a while, but it has returned.

I am not 100% positive that it was the source of the problem, but after
adding the stop-leak to the engine oil, I noticed that my oil pressure
started to drop noticeably and I eventually started hearing lifter noise. I
changed the oil filter (it was a Champion filter) and the pressure
immediately went back to normal. I swore I would never use another Champion
filter as they apparently do not have an effective bypass valve in them.I
thought the problem was filter-related.

After a few months of local driving (a few hundred miles) I noticed the oil
pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter and the oil
pressure went back to normal.

I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was plugging the filter as
well as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about using anything
like this again.

best,

doug

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Thanks for the advice.  It is a leak from the front seal of the main
> transmission housing.  I'm not sure if both places just didn't want to
> tackle it or if there is something hard to find with this tranny.
>
> I do the 'drip tray' already.  But as a rescue truck, I do drive it in
> higher waters, on beaches and boardwalks and such.  I'd rather not leave =
a
> trail. 8>)
>
> It also has the dreaded main seal leak (as does my 2003 Ford 350 duallie
> diesel.)  I'm going to try ST-201 leak stop on that as it did really well
> on Project farm.
>
> I'm not so worried about it not being perment, or if it doesn't work.  I'=
m
> just worried about if it can cause MORE damage.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
>
> From:        old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
> To:        Moose <[email-masked]>
> Cc:        [email-masked]
> Date:        02/21/2024 07:53 AM
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Lucas Transmission Fix
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Moose,
>
> issues for a 2007 transmission. Maybe yours was a more limited, heavy-dut=
y
> My guess is that it may work, or may reduce the leak, but that it would
> not be a permanent fix.
>
> It is disappointing to me that parts are a problem for a US vehicle that
> is this new. I can still source most any parts I need for my 70-year-old =
MG
> TF.
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:09=E2=80=AFPM Moose <[email-masked]*
> <[email-masked]>> wrote:
> Guy,
>
n
.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Moose,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Yes, when someone =
does not want to take your money for doing the work they normally would do,=
 that says something.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l">If it is just a seal, though, Dodge almost certainly bought the seals fr=
om some company that makes them. Perhaps you could find the specs for the s=
eal and look-up industrial supply companies and try to match it? We do this=
 for bearings and seals for the old British stuff.</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">Again, though, if the repair garages do not want =
to work on it, there probably is some sound reason(s).</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small">I have an engine rear main seal leak on my &#=
39;03 GMC Savana and used a seal leak additive which did stop the leak for =
a while, but it has returned.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small">I am not 100% positive that it was the source of the problem, bu=
t after adding the stop-leak to the engine oil, I noticed that my oil press=
ure started to drop noticeably and I eventually started hearing lifter nois=
e. I changed the oil filter (it was a Champion filter) and the pressure imm=
ediately went back to normal. I swore I would never use another Champion fi=
lter as they apparently do not have an effective bypass valve in them.I tho=
ught the problem was filter-related.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:small">After a few months of local=C2=A0driving (a few hundred miles) =
I noticed the oil pressure was dropping again, I again replaced the filter =
and the oil pressure went back to normal.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:small">I cannot prove it, but I believe the stop leak was pluggin=
g the filter as well as plugging the leak. It made me very cautious about u=
sing anything like this again.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:s=
mall">best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Doug,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks for the advice.=C2=A0 It is=
 a
leak from the front seal of the main transmission housing.=C2=A0 I&#39;m no=
t
sure if both places just didn&#39;t want to tackle it or if there is someth=
ing
hard to find with this tranny.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I do the &#39;drip tray&#39; alrea=
dy.=C2=A0 But
as a rescue truck, I do drive it in higher waters, on beaches and boardwalk=
s
and such.=C2=A0 I&#39;d rather not leave a trail. 8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It also has the dreaded main seal =
leak
(as does my 2003 Ford 350 duallie diesel.) =C2=A0I&#39;m going to try ST-20=
1
leak stop on that as it did really well on Project farm.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I&#39;m not so worried about it no=
t being
perment, or if it doesn&#39;t work.=C2=A0 I&#39;m just worried about if it =
can
cause MORE damage.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks again.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">old dirtbeard &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Cc: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-ta=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">02/21/2024 07:53 AM</font=
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
Lucas Transmission Fix</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">Hi Moose,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">First off let me say that I am not experienced with Ra=
m
and do not speak from any hands-on knowledge.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">Generally speaking, I am surprised that there would be
parts availability issues for a 2007 transmission. Maybe yours was a more
limited, heavy-duty run or something.=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">Is it a module or valve leaking=C2=A0or a gasket/seal
issue?=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">Lucas might work, but I believe it plugs leaks by eith=
er
softening seal rubbers or by floating some paticulants in the oil that
hopefully/eventually find their way into the leak.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">My guess is that it may work, or may reduce the leak,
but that it would not be a permanent fix.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">If the leak is not too bad, perhaps just live with it,
put a drip tray under it like we do with many/most of our old British cars.
;-)=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">Or if you want to open it up, you might want to try to
source the likely necessary parts before you commence work.=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">There also may be used parts availability. Maybe pick-=
up
a used transmission from a salvage yard to=C2=A0swap in or to use for parts=
?.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">It is disappointing to me that parts are a problem for
a US vehicle that is this new. I can still source most any parts I need
for my 70-year-old MG TF.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">I do wish you the best with this one, Moose.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2">doug</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:09=E2=80=AFPM Moose &lt;</f=
ont><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3"=
 color=3D"blue"><u>[email-masked]</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">&gt;
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Guy,</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I have a 2007 Dodge 3500 dualie diesel and it currently has a transmission
leak.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
2 different truck mechanics expressed concerns with part availability if
they take it apart to fix it.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
This truck is my personal dive rescue truck (see photo.) So it normally
has the camper loaded with gear.=C2=A0 It also tows lighter boats and jet
skis.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here is my question, do I try Lucas Transmission Fix?</font><font size=3D"3=
">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Or do I take my chances and have a place tear into this truck&#39;s transmi=
ssion?
(will they be able to get the parts to fix it?</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks in advance.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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