Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Fuses

From: "john" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:44:01 -0600

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----- Original Message -----
From: john <[email-masked]>
To: Moose <[email-masked]>
Sent: 1/11/2024 5:43:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fuses

you can do it with a meter but especially go buy a circuit breaker of the=
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proper amperage, instead of more fuses
keep backing up until you find your short
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put all your fuses back in the proper slots when you finish !

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----- Original Message -----
From: Moose <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: 1/10/2024 5:39:05 PM
Subject: [Shop-talk] Fuses

OK, I'm sure I'm missing something here, but I figured=20
I'd ask.=20

My Jeep had a short circuit and blows a fuse if I turn on the lights.=20

So I remove all bulbs on the circuit and try again.  Blown fuse.=20

I take some other items off the circuit and try again, blown fuse.=20

Moving around and trying different things, blowing fuses all around.=20

I found the short, fixed it and all is well.=20

My question is, is there a way to do this without having to blow fuses?  I'=
m=20
guessing a meter should show 0ohm resistance if there is still a short, but=
 I=20
was not getting a open circuit.=20

Any ideas so I don't have to go through a hand full of fuses next time?=20

Thanks.=20

Moose
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">you can do it with a meter but especially go b=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">keep backing up until you find your short</FON=
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">put all your fuses back in the proper slots wh=
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; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal"><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>OK, =
I'm sure I'm missing something here, but I figured I'd ask.</FONT> <BR><BR>=
<FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>My Jeep had a short circuit and blows a fu=
se if I turn on the lights.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif=
>So I remove all bulbs on the circuit and try again. &nbsp;Blown fuse.</FON=
T> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>I take some other items off the=
 circuit and try again, blown fuse.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsa=
ns-serif>Moving around and trying different things, blowing fuses all aroun=
d.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><BR>I found the short, fixed=
 it and all is well.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>My que=
stion is, is there a way to do this without having to blow fuses? &nbsp;I'm=
 guessing a meter should show 0ohm resistance if there is still a short, bu=
t I was not getting a open circuit.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsa=
ns-serif>Any ideas so I don't have to go through a hand full of fuses next =
time?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><BR>Thanks.</FONT> <BR><B=
R><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>Moose</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></B=
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:20:33 -0800

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Another option is to disconnect the positive terminal of the battery and
then connect a 12VDC battery charger to the positive lead and to ground.
The charger should not be enough to blow the fuses and it also generally
will not damage your harness.

Most battery chargers have circuit breakers and will pop if shorted.

I am wiring lighting for my Lotus Eleven right now and am using an old 10
amp battery charger and my Simpson 260 meter to chase down the circuits and
find the shorts. The multi-wire cables from the chassis to the clams have
rotted and been chafed by the tires, shorting internally.

best,

doug

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 4:21=E2=80=AFAM john <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
>
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* john <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Moose <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* 1/11/2024 5:43:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Fuses
> ------------------------------
> you can do it with a meter but especially go buy a circuit breaker of the
> *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* Moose <[email-masked]>
> *To:* <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* 1/10/2024 5:39:05 PM
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] Fuses
> ------------------------------
> OK, I'm sure I'm missing something here, but I figured I'd ask.
>
> My Jeep had a short circuit and blows a fuse if I turn on the lights.
>
> So I remove all bulbs on the circuit and try again.  Blown fuse.
>
> I take some other items off the circuit and try again, blown fuse.
>
> Moving around and trying different things, blowing fuses all around.
>
> I found the short, fixed it and all is well.
>
> My question is, is there a way to do this without having to blow fuses?
> I'm guessing a meter should show 0ohm resistance if there is still a shor=
t,
> but I was not getting a open circuit.
>
> Any ideas so I don't have to go through a hand full of fuses next time?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Ano=
ther option is to disconnect the positive terminal of the battery and then =
connect a 12VDC battery charger to the positive lead and to ground. The cha=
rger should not be enough to blow the fuses and it also generally will not =
damage your harness.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:s=
mall"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Most=
 battery chargers have circuit breakers and will pop if shorted.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I am wiring lighting for my Lotus E=
leven right now and am using an old 10 amp battery charger and my Simpson 2=
60 meter to chase down the circuits and find the shorts. The multi-wire cab=
les from the chassis to the clams have rotted and been chafed by the tires,=
 shorting internally.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l">best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
, Jan 11, 2024 at 4:21=E2=80=AFAM john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">

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<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding:0px 0px 0px 0.5em;border-left:1px solid rgb(19=
9,229,255);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.5em">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>----- Original Message -----</b></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>From:</b> john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>To:</b> Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>Sent:</b> 1/11/2024 5:43:29 AM</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Fuses</div>
<hr style=3D"border-width:medium;border-style:none;border-color:initial;hei=
ght:1px;color:rgb(204,204,204);background-color:rgb(204,204,204)">

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-weight:n=
ormal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal">

<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">you can do it with a meter but especially go b=
uy a circuit breaker of the proper amperage, instead of more fuses</font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">keep backing up until you find your short</fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">put all your fuses back in the proper slots wh=
en you finish !</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding:0px 0px 0px 0.5em;border-left:1px solid rgb(19=
9,229,255);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.5em">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>----- Original Message -----</b></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>From:</b> Moose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>To:</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>Sent:</b> 1/10/2024 5:39:05 PM</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0=
,0)"><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Fuses</div>
<hr style=3D"border-width:medium;border-style:none;border-color:initial;hei=
ght:1px;color:rgb(204,204,204);background-color:rgb(204,204,204)">

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;;font-weight:n=
ormal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-ser=
if">OK, I&#39;m sure I&#39;m missing something here, but I figured I&#39;d =
ask.</font> <br><br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My Jeep had a shor=
t circuit and blows a fuse if I turn on the lights.</font> <br><br><font si=
ze=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So I remove all bulbs on the circuit and try a=
gain.=C2=A0 Blown fuse.</font> <br><br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"=
>I take some other items off the circuit and try again, blown fuse.</font> =
<br><br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moving around and trying diffe=
rent things, blowing fuses all around.</font> <br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
sans-serif"><br>I found the short, fixed it and all is well.</font> <br><br=
><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My question is, is there a way to do =
this without having to blow fuses?=C2=A0 I&#39;m guessing a meter should sh=
ow 0ohm resistance if there is still a short, but I was not getting a open =
circuit.</font> <br><br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any ideas so I=
 don&#39;t have to go through a hand full of fuses next time?</font> <br><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>Thanks.</font> <br><br><font size=3D=
"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><=
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