Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] instant water heater

From: Dwade Reinsch <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 10:56:28 -0600

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I put a small point of use hot water heater=
 under the kitchen sink when we moved into our new house two years ago. Boug=
ht it at Home Depot I think. It plugs into a 110 outlet and I have been very=
 pleased with it. I=E2=80=99m pleased because the wife is pleased!&nbsp;<br i=
d=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:37=
=E2=80=AFAM, Benjamin Zwissler &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div di=
r=3D"ltr">You might want to consider a "point-of-use" unit.&nbsp; They're es=
sentially small tank style heaters that can easily fit under a sink.&nbsp; T=
he reason I recommend this is that they can heat the water with less power s=
o you don't need 220V.&nbsp; &nbsp;I see several 110V units on Amazon from B=
osch and Rheem for $200-300 that hold a few gallons of water.<div><br></div>=
<div>I also saw a few cheaper no-name units that claimed to be tankless and 3=
000W, but had a normal 110V plug.&nbsp; You can't pull more than 15 A at 110=
V&nbsp; from the&nbsp;plug shown and that limits you to about 1650W.&nbsp; A=
t that power I'm not sure how hot you could get the water if they are truly t=
ankless.&nbsp; It would take the chill off but may not make it "hot".&nbsp; &=
nbsp;Anyway, one lie makes me question everything they say, so buyer beware.=
&nbsp; The Bosch unit said 1440W or 12 amps at 120V.&nbsp; Very doable with "=
typical" wiring.</div><div><br></div><div>Ben</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" d=
ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v><div>Ben Zwissler<br></div><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div>812-343-5533</div>Columbus, I=
N<br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 9:53=E2=80=
=AFAM john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Tired of water in my shop sink being so cold in=
 the winter that my fingers lock up when I wash my hands...Thinking</font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">about a tankless water heater... Will have limi=
ted use, not like a unit in a home and it can't break the bank.</font></div>=

<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">110 v vrs 220 v. ??&nbsp; I can wire both but i=
t's a pain to do in a cramped attic and 76 year old body...</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">what's best ??&nbsp; suggestions ??</font></div=
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
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From: "Matt" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 17:10:35 GMT

I have a no name 110V unit servicing my shop bathroom and it was surprisingly cheap 17 years ago. It did require very thick wire for the amps but it does a great job for the wash basin. Not sure how hot it can keep the shower with the higher flow though.

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From: "john" <[email-masked]>
To: "shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] instant water heater
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:36:18 -0600

Tired of water in my shop sink being so cold in the winter that my fingers lock up when I wash my hands...Thinkingabout a tankless water heater... Will have limited use, not like a unit in a home and it can't break the bank. 110 v vrs 220 v. ??  I can wire both but it's a pain to do in a cramped attic and 76 year old body... what's best ??  suggestions ?? thanksjohn
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