Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Anybody know what those tools he's using are called?

From: Jim Juhas <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:59:02 -0500

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v>This might be one of the tools. Pricey.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 12, 2023=
, at 11:14 PM, Scott Hall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://youtube.com/shorts/OWY-yrMVjQU?si=3DN956ZG=
yLaUqAH6U8">https://youtube.com/shorts/OWY-yrMVjQU?si=3DN956ZGyLaUqAH6U8</a>=
&nbsp;<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So I'm about to start re=
novating new house's bathrooms. I've been using open-ended wrenches and plie=
rs my whole life for this, but those three tools look like they'd make thing=
s much nicer.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But I have n=
o idea what to Google. A compression insert puller, a opening flare wrench, a=
nd a...screw-on handle for compression stops?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Starting over in a new house with no tools is...a chall=
enge.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks fellas&nbsp;=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Scott</div></div>
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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 14:55:20 -0600

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> On Nov 12, 2023, at 22:25, Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> https://youtube.com/shorts/OWY-yrMVjQU?si=3DN956ZGyLaUqAH6U8=20
>=20
> So I'm about to start renovating new house's bathrooms. I've been using op=
en-ended wrenches and pliers my whole life for this, but those three tools l=
ook like they'd make things much nicer.
>=20
> But I have no idea what to Google. A compression insert puller, a opening f=
lare wrench, and a...screw-on handle for compression stops?
>=20
  I have never seen a plumber use any of those except the compression ferrul=
e puller.   That includes working around one who makes my tool acquisition d=
isorder look mild.  I expect they work, but are just not worth carrying arou=
nd. =20

If you want to spend the money on tools, get some knipex cobras and pliers w=
renches, assuming you don=E2=80=99t already have them.  They=E2=80=99re gene=
rally useful, and better than channellocks and a crescent wrench for this ty=
pe of work.=20=

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></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 12, 2023, at 22=
:25, Scott Hall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockq=
uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"a=
uto"><a href=3D"https://youtube.com/shorts/OWY-yrMVjQU?si=3DN956ZGyLaUqAH6U8=
">https://youtube.com/shorts/OWY-yrMVjQU?si=3DN956ZGyLaUqAH6U8</a>&nbsp;<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So I'm about to start renovating n=
ew house's bathrooms. I've been using open-ended wrenches and pliers my whol=
e life for this, but those three tools look like they'd make things much nic=
er.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But I have no idea wh=
at to Google. A compression insert puller, a opening flare wrench, and a...s=
crew-on handle for compression stops?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div=
></div></blockquote><div>&nbsp; I have never seen a plumber use any of those=
 except the compression ferrule puller. &nbsp; That includes working around o=
ne who makes my tool acquisition disorder look mild. &nbsp;I expect they wor=
k, but are just not worth carrying around. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I=
f you want to spend the money on tools, get some knipex cobras and pliers wr=
enches, assuming you don=E2=80=99t already have them. &nbsp;They=E2=80=99re g=
enerally useful, and better than channellocks and a crescent wrench for this=
 type of work.&nbsp;</div></body></html>=

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