Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Eradicating yellowjackets in a stone wall?

From: Eric Russell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 08:59:33 -0400

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The yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet
killing spray has eliminated them.
https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm

EjR

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]=
> wrote:

> I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are
> entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should have
> aimed the can? I only had one  :-)  Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the
> wall but not a single angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit
> anything. Morning will tell.
>
> Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest
> amongst the rocks? I've never seen that.
>
> (fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)
>
> If the can didn't work, any ideas on what to try next?
>
> thanks,
> jim
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The=
 yellowjacket nests I&#39;ve dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet =
killing spray has eliminated them.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:large"><a href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjacke=
ts.htm">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>=C2=A0<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 6, 202=
3 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.=
org">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex">I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone w=
all tonight. They are entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on=
 where I should have aimed the can? I only had one=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied =
3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a single angry wasp came out so =
I&#39;m not convinced I hit anything. Morning will tell. <br>
<br>
Should I expect they&#39;re in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
amongst the rocks? I&#39;ve never seen that.<br>
<br>
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
<br>
If the can didn&#39;t work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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Same, hole in the ground, I just park a running lawn mower over it.

On 8/6/2023 8:59 AM, Eric Russell wrote:
> The yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of 
> hornet killing spray has eliminated them.
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47 AM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]> 
> wrote:
>
>     I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They
>     are entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I
>     should have aimed the can? I only had one  :-) Emptied 3/4 of it
>     into the gap in the wall but not a single angry wasp came out so
>     I'm not convinced I hit anything. Morning will tell.
>
>     Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a
>     nest amongst the rocks? I've never seen that.
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Same, hole in the ground, I just park a
      running lawn mower over it.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">The
          yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of
          hornet killing spray has eliminated them. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><a
            href="https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a> <br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">EjR </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47 AM
          Jim Franklin &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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          tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight.
          They are entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on
          where I should have aimed the can? I only had one  :-) 
          Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a single
          angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit anything.
          Morning will tell. <br>
          <br>
          Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have
          built a nest amongst the rocks? I've never seen that.<br>
          <br>
          (fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
          <br>
          If the can didn't work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
          <br>
          thanks,<br>
          jim<br>
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I've tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, =
landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the =
ground, which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=20

She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it =
so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I'm thinking a =
length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a =
funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.=20

I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)

jim

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I've =
tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, landlord =
can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground, which =
is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.&nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">She's ordering delta =
dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it so I can hit them =
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tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a funnel in the T =
junction and blow it to the other end.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
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solutions :-)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The =
yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet =
killing spray has eliminated them.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:large"><a =
href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm" =
class=3D"">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>&nbsp;<br =
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should =
have aimed the can? I only had one&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Emptied 3/4 of it =
into the gap in the wall but not a single angry wasp came out so I'm not =
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<br class=3D"">
Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
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<br class=3D"">
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
If the can didn't work, any ideas on what to try next?<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
thanks,<br class=3D"">
jim<br class=3D"">
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" I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)"
So suggesting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]=

> I've tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth,
> landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the groun=
d,
> which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.
>
> She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it s=
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> I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I'm thinking a length
> of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a funnel i=
n
> the T junction and blow it to the other end.
>
> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]=
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>> entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should hav=
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>> aimed the can? I only had one  :-)  Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in th=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>&quot;
I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)&quot;</div><div>So sugge=
sting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?<br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7,=
 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbe=
nch.org">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
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b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">=
I&#39;ve tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, land=
lord can&#39;t remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground,=
 which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=C2=A0<div><br></d=
iv><div>She&#39;s ordering delta dust but I&#39;d like to rig up a remote b=
lower for it so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I&#39;m=
 thinking a length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powde=
r into a funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.=C2=A0</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)</div=
><div><br></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug =
6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The y=
ellowjacket nests I&#39;ve dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet ki=
lling spray has eliminated them.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:large"><a href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets=
.htm" target=3D"_blank">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>=C2=
=A0<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></d=
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I tried to kil=
l a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are entering at ground =
level. Any experienced opinions on where I should have aimed the can? I onl=
y had one=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but no=
t a single angry wasp came out so I&#39;m not convinced I hit anything. Mor=
ning will tell. <br>
<br>
Should I expect they&#39;re in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
amongst the rocks? I&#39;ve never seen that.<br>
<br>
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
<br>
If the can didn&#39;t work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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he can? I only had one&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the=
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Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the propane torch!

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]=
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>> landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the grou=
nd,
>> She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it
>> so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I'm thinking a
>> length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a
>> funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.
>>
>> The yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of horne=
t
>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.=
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>>> entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should ha=
ve
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<div dir=3D"auto">Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the propane torch!=
</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jdinni=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
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r-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div>&quot;
I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)&quot;</div><div>So sugge=
sting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?<br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jamesf@groupwbe=
nch.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
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left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div>=
I&#39;ve tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, land=
lord can&#39;t remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground,=
 which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=C2=A0<div><br></d=
iv><div>She&#39;s ordering delta dust but I&#39;d like to rig up a remote b=
lower for it so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I&#39;m=
 thinking a length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powde=
r into a funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.=C2=A0</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)</div=
6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The y=
ellowjacket nests I&#39;ve dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet ki=
lling spray has eliminated them.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:large"><a href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets=
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-l=
eft-color:rgb(204,204,204)">I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone =
wall tonight. They are entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions o=
n where I should have aimed the can? I only had one=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied=
 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a single angry wasp came out so=
 I&#39;m not convinced I hit anything. Morning will tell. <br>
<br>
Should I expect they&#39;re in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
amongst the rocks? I&#39;ve never seen that.<br>
<br>
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
<br>
If the can didn&#39;t work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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Umm we need to talk about the concept of proportional response.  Also the
BATFE would like a word....

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 8:09=E2=80=AFPM Berry Kercheval <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.=
org>
>>> landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the gro=
und,
>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench=
.org>
>>>> entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should h=
ave
>>>> aimed the can? I only had one  :-)  Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Umm we need to talk about the concept of proportional resp=
onse.=C2=A0 Also the BATFE would like a word....<br></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at =
8:09=E2=80=AFPM Berry Kercheval &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">berr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the pro=
pane torch!</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>&quot;
I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)&quot;</div><div>So sugge=
sting diesel fuel and a propane torch is right out?<br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jamesf@groupwbe=
nch.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I&#39;ve =
tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, landlord can&=
#39;t remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground, which is=
 either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>S=
he&#39;s ordering delta dust but I&#39;d like to rig up a remote blower for=
 it so I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I&#39;m thinking=
 a length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a =
funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I&#39;m open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)</div><div><br=
></div><div>jim<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 6, 2023, =
at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The yellowjack=
et nests I&#39;ve dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet killing spr=
ay has eliminated them.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:large"><a href=3D"https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>=C2=A0<br></=
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lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug=
 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@group=
wbench.org" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I tried to kill a yello=
wjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are entering at ground level. An=
y experienced opinions on where I should have aimed the can? I only had one=
=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a singl=
e angry wasp came out so I&#39;m not convinced I hit anything. Morning will=
 tell. <br>
<br>
Should I expect they&#39;re in the ground, or would they have built a nest =
amongst the rocks? I&#39;ve never seen that.<br>
<br>
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br>
<br>
If the can didn&#39;t work, any ideas on what to try next?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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OK, Mr. McVeigh.
BTW, Diatomaceous earth is ineffective on yellow jackets.=C2=A0 It works on=
 animals that will eat it like slugs and worms.
If you found the hole try putting a rock over it.=C2=A0 Can't hurt.

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    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 09:43:34 PM CDT, Berry Kercheval <berry@ke=
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 Diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the propane torch!
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:

"I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)"So suggesting diesel fuel a=
nd a propane torch is right out?

> wrote:

I've tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous earth, landlord=
 can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the ground, which i=
s either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.=C2=A0
She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig up a remote blower for it so =
I can hit them during the day from a few feet away. I'm thinking a length o=
f rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump the powder into a funnel in t=
he T junction and blow it to the other end.=C2=A0
I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)
jim

On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Eric Russell <[email-masked]> wrote:
The yellowjacket nests I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet k=
illing spray has eliminated them.=C2=A0https://diypestcontrol.com/yellowjac=
kets.htm=C2=A0

EjR=C2=A0

I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are enter=
ing at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should have aimed =
the can? I only had one=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in t=
he wall but not a single angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit any=
thing. Morning will tell.=20

Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest amon=
gst the rocks? I've never seen that.

thanks,
jim

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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">OK, Mr. McVeigh.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">BTW, Diat=
omaceous earth is ineffective on yellow jackets.&nbsp; It works on animals =
that will eat it like slugs and worms.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If you found the h=
ole try putting a rock over it.&nbsp; Can't hurt.<br></div><div><br></div><=
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                    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 09:43:34 PM CDT, Berry Ker=
cheval &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641"><div><div>Diesel =
fuel and ammonium nitrate, THEN the propane torch!</div><div><br clear=3D"n=
one"><div class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ydp328ef=
917yiv4267962641yqtfd66074" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641yqt1668486409"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug =
7, 2023 at 6:08 PM John Innis &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:jdinnis@=
gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-=
left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"=
><div id=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641yqtfd23782" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267=
962641yqt1668486409"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>"
I'm open to less Caddyshack-like solutions :-)"</div><div>So suggesting die=
sel fuel and a propane torch is right out?<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><b=
r clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"></div><=
div class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 5:16=E2=80=AFPM=
 Jim Franklin &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div></div><div class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quo=
te"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bor=
der-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" =
class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"></blockquote></div><div class=
=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail=
_quote"><div>I've tried spray and dust (which may have been diatomaceous ea=
rth, landlord can't remember). Neither is making it into the hole in the gr=
ound, which is either way far back or around a 90 degree bend.&nbsp;<div><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div>She's ordering delta dust but I'd like to rig u=
p a remote blower for it so I can hit them during the day from a few feet a=
way. I'm thinking a length of rubber tubing with a T junction, and I dump t=
he powder into a funnel in the T junction and blow it to the other end.&nbs=
p;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I'm open to less Caddyshack-like=
 solutions :-)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>jim<br clear=3D"none=
"><div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 6, 2023, at=
 8:59 AM, Eric Russell &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ejrussell61@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:=
large;" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_default">The yellowjacket ne=
sts I've dealt with are in the ground. A can of hornet killing spray has el=
iminated them.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp328ef=
917yiv4267962641gmail_default"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://diypestcon=
trol.com/yellowjackets.htm" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://diyp=
estcontrol.com/yellowjackets.htm</a>&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_default"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-size:large;" class=3D"ydp328ef917y=
iv4267962641gmail_default">EjR&nbsp;</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div cla=
ss=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp328=
ef917yiv4267962641gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 5:47=E2=80=AFAM Jim Fr=
anklin &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
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idth:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);" class=3D"ydp328ef917yiv4267962641gmail_quote">I tried to kill a=
 yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are entering at ground lev=
el. Any experienced opinions on where I should have aimed the can? I only h=
ad one&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a=
 single angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit anything. Morning wi=
ll tell. <br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest amon=
gst the rocks? I've never seen that.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
(fire, nukes, pros, all not viable options at the moment)<br clear=3D"none"=
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If the can didn't work, any ideas on what to try next?<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Jimmie Mayfield <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:26:09 -0400

(First attempt to reply to the list failed.  Apologies in advance if you 
eventually see two similar replies from me...)

Years ago I recall watching a video where someone had a 
difficult-to-reach wasp or hornet nest in a roof so he set up a shopvac 
where the wasps were entering and let it run for a day or so.  Something 
like this might work for your situation if your shopvac has enough 
suction.  If you also suck up some powdered insect killer like Sevin or 
diatomaceous earth, it ought to kill the wasps while they're in the 
tank.  Browsing YouTube, I see a number of similar videos but not the 
one that I recall watching.

This might be pretty effective at getting rid of the adults.  Depending 
on the side of the nest and how many eggs have been laid, you might need 
to repeat it a couple times as the young hatch and leave the nest.

J

On 8/5/23 21:54, Jim Franklin wrote:
> I tried to kill a yellowjacket nest in a stone wall tonight. They are entering at ground level. Any experienced opinions on where I should have aimed the can? I only had one  :-)  Emptied 3/4 of it into the gap in the wall but not a single angry wasp came out so I'm not convinced I hit anything. Morning will tell.
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> Should I expect they're in the ground, or would they have built a nest amongst the rocks? I've never seen that.
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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 23:12:30 -0400

I recall seeing a video where someone was trying to eradicate a 
hard-to-get-to hornet nest in a roof where they wound up leaving a 
running shopvac at the entrance to capture the hornets as they 
entered/left.  If you later suck up some powdered pesticide like Sevin 
or diatomaceous earth, it ought to kill them while trapped in the vacuum.

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From: Neil Sherry <[email-masked]> FP+zLezWCYOarmqJiKem1I1a88XN9QbMUaGHX2ahLMBvWXLKyip/FKJITjwNNVAqDwL2Uy3Hx6/SjA==
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 11:22:38 +0100

I had a load of wasps arriving to set up home, accessing via a gap in 
brickwork. I used the vac for about 40 minutes to suck them up before 
they entered the crack, as well as nabbing any that came back out (was a 
bit like ghost busting). I had the vac in wet mode (so no filter or bag) 
with some water in the bottom - reasoning that they would eventually 
drop and drown - especially with the odd shake and swish. When they had 
stopped arriving I caulked up the crack and then listened for buzzing 
from the vac - there was none. When I plucked up courage to look inside, 
it looks like they had all succumbed to the sharp corner where the hose 
enters the machine - judging by the spatters there!

Neil

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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:03:05 -0700

IIRC, the last time I had wasps entering into a gap in the bricks near the ground, I tried the usual wasp / bee / yellowjacket stuff - all to no avail. I called the extension service for help, and they knew what to get. 

They recommended 'Sevin' brand insect killer [to be applied with great care to not poison myself!]. It worked great.  

I think one of the keys was to puff the powder into the hole where they enter during the evening when things were dormant or slow. Making sure to spray it where they would track it into the nest would be best. I think it took a few applications, several days apart for us to no longer see anybody flying around, and then sealed up the hole in the brickwork.

If you have a local extension service, they might have a suggestion. We used to have them in every county in Michigan when I was growing up, but now I think it is consolidated. I wound up calling the one at Michigan State University.  I've moved out of state, and have no idea who I would call now - but don’t have the need yet [fingers crossed].

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I had a load of wasps arriving to set up home, accessing via a gap in brickwork. I used the vac for about 40 minutes to suck them up before they entered the crack, as well as nabbing any that came back out (was a bit like ghost busting). I had the vac in wet mode (so no filter or bag) with some water in the bottom - reasoning that they would eventually drop and drown - especially with the odd shake and swish. When they had stopped arriving I caulked up the crack and then listened for buzzing from the vac - there was none. When I plucked up courage to look inside, it looks like they had all succumbed to the sharp corner where the hose enters the machine - judging by the spatters there!

Neil

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