Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] homeowner/ shop guy cordless drill

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:17:58 -0500

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Eric, if your old batteries are 18v, there i=
s an adapter so you can use 20v batteries in your 18v tools. Only downside i=
s that the adapters cause some leakage current so if you leave the batteries=
 installed, they will discharge in a few days. There are 2 sources I=E2=80=99=
ve found, DeWalt &amp; I think Etsy. I have both &amp; they work fine.&nbsp;=
<div><br></div><div>Some folks say that the additional 2v can damage the too=
ls but DeWalt fessed up recently that the 18v batteries were measured under l=
oad &amp; the 20v were measured open circuit. Basically they used the conver=
sion to lithium batteries to become a new family of tools by recasing the 18=
v tools &amp; changing the voltage markings.&nbsp;<br><br>Peace,Pat</div><di=
v><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</=
div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 2, 2023, at 4:10 PM, Er=
ic Russell &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
large">I have a DeWalt cordless drill. It has performed well. After many yea=
rs the batteries don't last as long as they used to. And of course a new dri=
ll with new batteries &amp; charger would cost less than replacing just the b=
atteries. And the current batteries are not backwards compatible.&nbsp;</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR&nbsp;</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 2, 20=
23 at 4:03=E2=80=AFPM john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jniolon@at=
t.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">

<div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font><font face=3D"Segoe UI">what is the cons=
ensus on a decent cordless drill for a homeowner/shop tinkerer/classic truck=
 owner.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I finally let the smoke out of it (literally) y=
esterday and the torque setting ring is just about stripped...yea I overwork=
ed it</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">the internet likes the Dewalt 20v&nbsp; DCD771C=
2) for around a hundred bucks&nbsp; and that's pretty much in my budget.&nbs=
p; It seems that Dewalt has</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">at least 576 models of 1/2" drill depending on w=
hats included and what month it is.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Won't be used daily and certainly not trades ty=
pe work...Just an above average shop guy at home</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771=
C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?source=3Dps-sl-shoppingads-lpc=
ontext&amp;ref_=3Dfplfs&amp;smid=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;th=3D1" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B0=
0ET5VMTU?source=3Dps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref_=3Dfplfs&amp;smid=3DAT=
VPDKIKX0DER&amp;th=3D1</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">you recommendations are always appreciated but k=
eep them under 150.00&nbsp;&nbsp; don't need all the included gizmos and bit=
s and screwdrivers and carrying case...just a basic drill/charger and a</fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">couple of batteries</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Segoe UI"></font>&nbsp;</div>
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From: "Matt" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 23:43:35 GMT

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I have been happy with the Ryobi. Handles my heavy homeowner tasks well,=
 reasonable cost, often on sale, huge variety of tools.

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From: "john" <[email-masked]>
To: "shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] homeowner/ shop guy cordless drill
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 14:20:04 -0500

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what is the consensus on a decent cordless drill for a homeowner/shop=20
tinkerer/classic truck owner.
I finally let the smoke out of it (literally) yesterday and the torque sett=
ing=20
ring is just about stripped...yea I overworked it
=20
the internet likes the Dewalt 20v  DCD771C2) for around a hundred bucks  an=
d=20
that's pretty much in my budget.  It seems that Dewalt has
at least 576 models of 1/2" drill depending on whats included and what mont=
h it is.
=20
Won't=20
be used daily and certainly not trades type work...Just an above average sh=
op=20
guy at home
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https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-
Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?source=3Dps-sl-shoppingads-
lpcontext&ref_=3Dfplfs&smid=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&th=3D1   =20
=20
you recommendations are always appreciated but keep them under 150.00   don=
't need all the included gizmos and bits and screwdrivers and carrying case=
=2E..just a basic drill/charger and a
couple of batteries
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john
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">what is the con=
sensus on a decent cordless drill for a homeowner/shop tinkerer/classic tru=
ck owner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">I finally let the smoke out of it (literally) =
yesterday and the torque setting ring is just about stripped...yea I overwo=
rked it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">the internet likes the Dewalt 20v&nbsp; DCD771=
C2) for around a hundred bucks&nbsp; and that's pretty much in my budget.&n=
bsp; It seems that Dewalt has</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">at least 576 models of 1/2" drill depending on=
 whats included and what month it is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">Won't be used daily and certainly not trades t=
ype work...Just an above average shop guy at home</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"><A href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD77=
1C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?source=3Dps-sl-shoppingads-l=
pcontext&amp;ref_=3Dfplfs&amp;smid=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;th=3D1">https://www.=
amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?sourc=
e=3Dps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp;ref_=3Dfplfs&amp;smid=3DATVPDKIKX0DER&a=
mp;th=3D1</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">you recommendations are always appreciated but=
 keep them under 150.00&nbsp;&nbsp; don't need all the included gizmos and =
bits and screwdrivers and carrying case...just a basic drill/charger and a<=
/FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI">couple of batteries</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Segoe UI"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: Joe Szwed <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:52:40 -0400

To me the batteries are the expensive part, so I would look to see who may offer other tools you may like.  Once you have a couple batteries, you can add tools by buying them without batteries.  I started with the 18v Dewalt and since I do a fair amount of mechanical work I need a 1/2” impact.  The Dewalt 18v impact was a big disappointment for me.  I had heard a lot of good things about Milwaukee’s 18v impact and decided to try it, but being on the cheap side, what I did was buy a starter kit on sale at Homedepot with a battery and a charger.  Then I picked up a new in the box tool only 1/2” impact off eBay.  It worked out well enough for me that I have added other tools as needed.  I bought a 1/2” drill, sawzall, 4” disc grinder, multi tool, die grinder and I’m looking to add a circular saw and heat gun next.  I’ve paid anywhere from $100 to $170 ea for the tools I have added so far mostly from eBay or other online tool sales.

Joe

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From: Joe Szwed <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 21:00:13 -0400

I forgot to mention it but like someone else did, with Milwaukee cordless tools, I believe the better tools are all pretty much in their Fuel line.

Joe

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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 06:10:18 -0500

One more thing to add to this discussion: I have been amazed at all of the battery adapters that are now available. I have a bunch of old Craftsman C3 18v tools that I still use from time to time.  I bought an adapter that lets me use my Milwaukee batteries with them.  I am currently borrowing a friend’s very nice Dewalt nailer that uses their old style batteries. He has an Dewalt adapter that allows him to use their newer batteries with it. I found one that converts the M18 batteries. Many of these are cheaply made but do the trick and can add life and usefulness to old tools. 

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> On Aug 2, 2023, at 11:15 PM, Drew Rogge <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I have a couple of Dewalt cordless drills and a corded one.. The chucks on all three were/are junk. The chuck on the corded drill would never grab on to a bit. I eventually replaced the chuck with one from an old 7V(?) Makita and all was better. The chucks on my newer Dewalt cordless units both have the "feature" that every time you stop the motor from high RPMs they will "automatically" loosen to where the bit falls out :-) It could be the braking feature of the drill doing this.
> 
> To end on a positive note, my cordless tools of choice are Makita 18V. As far as I know the same batteries fit all their tools. If I didn't already hav a number of Makita tools I'd seriously think about Milwaukee.
> 
> One thing I truly believe in is to pick one manufacturer and stick with them. That way you don't have a bunch of different chargers hanging around.\
> 
> Drew
> 
>> On 8/2/23 12:20 PM, john wrote:
>> what is the consensus on a decent cordless drill for a homeowner/shop tinkerer/classic truck owner.
>> I finally let the smoke out of it (literally) yesterday and the torque setting ring is just about stripped...yea I overworked it
>> the internet likes the Dewalt 20v DCD771C2) for around a hundred bucks  and that's pretty much in my budget.  It seems that Dewalt has
>> at least 576 models of 1/2" drill depending on whats included and what month it is.
>> Won't be used daily and certainly not trades type work...Just an above average shop guy at home
>> https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 <https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-DCD771C2-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Compact/dp/B00ET5VMTU?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1>
>> you recommendations are always appreciated but keep them under 150.00   don't need all the included gizmos and bits and screwdrivers and carrying case...just a basic drill/charger and a
>> couple of batteries
>> john
>> 
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