Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Which hose for compressed air (reel)?

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 12:31:14 -0700

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Goodyear rubber is my go-to.

On 5/17/2023 11:29 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8", 50-ft. I don't 
> mind paying for good quality but no need to over-spend either. There 
> appear to be materials options: rubber (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 
> 'hybrid', and whatever 'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? 
> Here are some of the options I see:
> https://is.gd/XwKKjX Home Depot
> https://is.gd/LTVegu Harbor Freight
> https://is.gd/ppaDT1 Amazon
> Thanks!
>  Lee
>

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    Goodyear rubber is my go-to.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/2023 11:29 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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      <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
        monospace">I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel -
        3/8", 50-ft. I don't mind paying for good quality but no need to
        over-spend either. There appear to be materials options: rubber
        (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and whatever
        'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some of the
        options I see:<br>
         <a href="https://is.gd/XwKKjX" target="_blank" rel="noopener
          noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/XwKKjX</a> Home
        Depot<br>
         <a href="https://is.gd/LTVegu" target="_blank" rel="noopener
          noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/LTVegu</a> Harbor
        Freight<br>
         <a href="https://is.gd/ppaDT1" target="_blank" rel="noopener
          noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/ppaDT1</a> Amazon</div>
      <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
        monospace"> </div>
      <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
        monospace">Thanks!</div>
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 12:49:10 -0700

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I will second Bob's recommendation. I have some 30 year-old Goodyear hoses
that still have not cracked or rotted.

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 12:39=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

> I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8", 50-ft. I don't min=
d
> paying for good quality but no need to over-spend either. There appear to
> be materials options: rubber (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and
> whatever 'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some of the
> options I see:
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I w=
ill second Bob&#39;s recommendation. I have some 30 year-old Goodyear hoses=
 that still have not cracked or rotted.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 17, 2023 at =
12:39=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bs=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
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    Goodyear rubber is my go-to.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 5/17/2023 11:29 AM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">lee@automate=
-it.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">I need to=
 replace the hose in my air-hose reel -
        3/8&quot;, 50-ft. I don&#39;t mind paying for good quality but no n=
eed to
        over-spend either. There appear to be materials options: rubber
        (or &#39;heavy-duty&#39; rubber), pvc, &#39;hybrid&#39;, and whatev=
er
        &#39;flexzilla&#39; is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some o=
f the
        options I see:<br>
        =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://is.gd/XwKKjX" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/XwKKjX</a> Home
        Depot<br>
        =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://is.gd/LTVegu" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/LTVegu</a> Harbor
        Freight<br>
        =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://is.gd/ppaDT1" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/ppaDT1</a> Amazon</di=
v>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">=C2=A0</d=
iv>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">Thanks!</=
div>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">=C2=A0Lee=
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From: Karl Vacek <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 16:11:51 -0500

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Can't say what brand these are, but when I first worked for Binks in 1971, 
I bought (2) 25' lengths of red rubber jacket 5/16 air hose.  They've been 
through every form of mistreatment and neglect I could do to them, hundreds 
of painting etc projects, left outside in all weather, and when not in use 
are hung on a bracket on the little compressor at the garage door, having 
spent lots of time in sun, rain, etc.  The plated brass end fittings are 
badly worn from being dropped and dragged across the concrete all that 
time.  Still not one crack, check, etc. on that hose.

I don't know what all brands were used in the literally hundreds of hose 
assemblies we made, but I think all the major US hose manufacturers were 
represented in the hundred or more reels of hose in the hose bench stock 
back then.

Clearly, today's materials should be superior but from the other hoses I've 
bought in the past decades, quality isn't like it was.

I do have a couple 25' lengths of 3/8" Goodyear air hose, with some 
cracking near the fittings.  Maybe 7 years old.  They've had no exposure to 
rain or solvents.  Marked Made in USA, but I did buy them at Horrible Freight.

A couple 25' lengths of alleged Michelin 5/16" hose that never left my 
hangar floor split and actually bubbled the liner out of the cord, in about 
2 years.  Also Horrible Freight.

Emergency purchase to replace that Michelin hose was a 50' 3/8" Flexzilla 
from Lowes.  Incredibly cheap price, and other than being dirty (and that 
fluorescent color always fades on Flexzilla hoses and cords), it's still in 
great shape and flexible as ever, maybe 8 years later.

Karl

On May 17, 2023 3:02:01 PM old dirtbeard <[email-masked]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 12:39 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8", 50-ft. I don't mind 
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<div dir=3D"auto">Can't say what brand these are, but when I first worked f=
or Binks in 1971, I bought (2) 25' lengths of red rubber jacket 5/16 air ho=
se.&nbsp; They've been through every form of mistreatment and neglect I cou=
ld do to them, hundreds of painting etc projects, left outside in all weath=
er, and when not in use are hung on a bracket on the little compressor at t=
he garage door, having spent lots of time in sun, rain, etc.&nbsp; <span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 12pt;">The plated brass end fittings are badly worn from =
being dropped and dragged across the concrete all that time.&nbsp; Still no=
t one crack, check, etc. on that hose.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">I don't know what all brands were&nbsp;<span style=3D=
"font-size: 12pt;">used in the literally hundreds of hose assemblies we mad=
e, but I think all the major US hose manufacturers were represented in the =
hundred or more reels of hose in the hose bench stock back then.</span></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Clearly, today's materials =
should be superior but from the other hoses I've bought in the past decades=
, quality isn't like it was.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">I do have a couple 25' lengths of 3/8" Goodyear air hose, with some cr=
acking near the fittings.&nbsp; Maybe 7 years old.&nbsp; They've had no exp=
osure to rain or solvents.&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Mark=
ed Made in USA, but I did buy them at Horrible Freight.</span></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">A c=
ouple 25' lengths of alleged Michelin 5/16" hose that never left my hangar =
floor split and actually bubbled the liner out of the cord, in about 2 year=
s.&nbsp; Also Horrible Freight.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12pt;">Emergency purchase to replace that Michelin hose was a 50' 3=
/8" Flexzilla from Lowes.&nbsp; Incredibly cheap price, and other than bein=
g dirty (and that fluorescent color always fades on Flexzilla hoses and cor=
ds), it's still in great shape and flexible as ever, maybe 8 years later.</=
span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Karl&nbsp;</span></d=
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t; wrote:</p>
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ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I w=
ill second Bob's recommendation. I have some 30 year-old Goodyear hoses tha=
t still have not cracked or rotted.&nbsp;</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 12:3=
9=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
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    Goodyear rubber is my go-to.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 5/17/2023 11:29 AM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">lee@automate=
-it.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">I need to=
 replace the hose in my air-hose reel -
        3/8", 50-ft. I don't mind paying for good quality but no need to
        over-spend either. There appear to be materials options: rubber
        (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and whatever
        'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some of the
        options I see:<br>
        &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/XwKKjX" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/XwKKjX</a> Home
        Depot<br>
        &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/LTVegu" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/LTVegu</a> Harbor
        Freight<br>
        &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/ppaDT1" rel=3D"noopener
          noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://is.gd/ppaDT1</a> Amazon</di=
v>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">&nbsp;</d=
iv>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">Thanks!</=
div>
      <div style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:monospace">&nbsp;Lee=
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I bought what I believe is a goodyear hose from horriblefreight at least 10=
 years ago. It is still totally flexible and uncracked.

At the time is was affordable.

tim
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I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8", 50-ft. I don't mind =
paying for good quality but no need to over-spend either. There appear to b=
e materials options: rubber (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and wh=
atever 'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some of the opt=
ions I see:
 https://is.gd/XwKKjX Home Depot
 https://is.gd/LTVegu Harbor Freight
 https://is.gd/ppaDT1 Amazon

Thanks!
 Lee

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I bought what I believe is a goodyear hose from horriblefreight at least 10=
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<div class=3D"x_pre" style=3D"margin:0; padding:0; font-family:monospace">I=
 need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8&quot;, 50-ft. I don't m=
ind paying for good quality but no need to over-spend either. There appear =
to be materials options: rubber (or 'heavy-duty'
 rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and whatever 'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to =
avoid? Here are some of the options I see:<br>
&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/XwKKjX" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" class=3D=
"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/XwKKjX</a> Home Depot<br>
&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/LTVegu" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" class=3D=
"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/LTVegu</a> Harbor Freight<br>
&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/ppaDT1" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" class=3D=
"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/ppaDT1</a> Amazon</div>
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I bought what I thought was a Goodyear hose from Harbor Freight about =
three years ago. It did not last more than 6 months. It was not abused. =
Lived inside a PVC conduit that ran from the inside of the house to the =
inside of the garage. I happened to notice a huge bulge\blister on the =
side of the hose were it came out of the came out of the garage end of =
the conduit. Removed it and threw it in the trash.

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>> I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel - 3/8", 50-ft. I don't =
mind paying for good quality but no need to over-spend either. There =
appear to be materials options: rubber (or 'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, =
'hybrid', and whatever 'flexzilla' is. Suggestions? What to avoid? Here =
>>  https://is.gd/ppaDT1 Amazon

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I bought =
what I thought was a Goodyear hose from Harbor Freight about three years =
ago. It did not last more than 6 months. It was not abused. Lived inside =
a PVC conduit that ran from the inside of the house to the inside of the =
garage. I happened to notice a huge bulge\blister on the side of the =
hose were it came out of the came out of the garage end of the conduit. =
Removed it and threw it in the =
trash.</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
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class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/2023 11:29 AM,<span =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" =
class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"x_pre" style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; =
font-family: monospace;">I need to replace the hose in my air-hose reel =
- 3/8", 50-ft. I don't mind paying for good quality but no need to =
over-spend either. There appear to be materials options: rubber (or =
'heavy-duty' rubber), pvc, 'hybrid', and whatever 'flexzilla' is. =
Suggestions? What to avoid? Here are some of the options I =
see:<br>&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://is.gd/XwKKjX" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable"=
 class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/XwKKjX</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Home Depot<br>&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://is.gd/LTVegu" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" =
class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/LTVegu</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Harbor Freight<br>&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://is.gd/ppaDT1" data-auth=3D"NotApplicable" =
class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-freetext">https://is.gd/ppaDT1</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Amazon</div><div =
class=3D"x_pre" style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: =
monospace;">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"x_pre" style=3D"margin: 0px; =
padding: 0px; font-family: monospace;">Thanks!</div><div class=3D"x_pre" =
style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: =
monospace;">&nbsp;Lee</div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br=
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