Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] scanner help

From: Tom Coradeschi <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 14:28:38 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Ah, HP calculators. Now you are speaking my=
 language. What I wouldn=E2=80=99t give (aside the insane prices I see for t=
hem online) for a working HP-41C/CV/CX.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom Co=
radeschi<div>[email-masked]</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Apr 24, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8"=
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    re: '... <font face=3D"Segoe UI">everyone says it "Can
      Not&nbsp;Communicate with the scanner."'<br>
      <br>
      'Everyone?' Presumably, this is a message displayed on your
      computer? If it's a message displayed on the MFD, if it has a
      display, then it's an issue internal to the device.<br>
      <br>
      I used to be a disciple of HP quality; after all, I worked for HP
      for over 13 years (and got employee discounts). But, after a
      series of failures I started buying my printers/MFDs from Canon,
      and have been happy with the performance, quality and service for
      a couple decades. HP's once-legendary quality went down the
      crapper when, 'coincidentally,' Carly Fiorina was given the reins,
      and the battle-hardened, bureaucratic infighters from Compaq took
      control. Case in point: Arguably the most popular handheld
      calculator--at least with financial types--is the HP12C. I've
      purchased, over the years, 5 or 6 of them but the last couple I
      bought were all but unusable. The newer ones' keys were so stiff
      you had to mash them really hard and you'd get unintentional
      repeats; e.g. you press '0,' and get '00000.' They're now
      collecting dust and the older models are still serving me well.<br>
      <br>
      I think you have to byte[sic] the bullet and put your $250 towards
      a new printer/MFD (esp. if <b>you didn't change anything</b> and
      the printer started acting-up on its own; communications chips do
      fail occasionally). Canon's good, but I've heard good things about
      Epson as well.<br>
      <br>
      Bob<br>
      <br>
    </font><br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/24/2023 9:03 AM, john wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:1UedxbJ5oU.5cImV69tsf0@johns-deskt=
op">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-=
8">
      <meta name=3D"GENERATOR" content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.10570.1001">
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Yep...tried that too..&nbsp;I've tried
          everything I can think of short of dumping the toner cartridge
          and refilling it</font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">that's why<em> </em>I'm calling on the
          brain trust here !!! <div>&lt;OEClassicEmoji000.png&gt;</div></fon=
t></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
      <blockquote style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px;
        PADDING-LEFT: 0.5em; BORDER-LEFT: #c7e5ff 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px
        0px 0px 0.5em; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>----- Original Message -----</b></div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>From:</b> Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishpl=
[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">fish=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-=
link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>Sent:</b> 4/24/2023 7:37:31 AM</div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe UI'; COLOR:
          #000000"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] scanner help</div>
        <hr style=3D"BORDER-TOP: medium none; HEIGHT: 1px; BORDER-RIGHT:
          medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; COLOR: #ccc;
          BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccc">
        <div>Assuming Windows, have you tried removing it from your
          printers list and letting the system reinstall it?</div>
        <br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
          <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 08:14
            Tom Coradeschi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-n=
ot-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex;
            BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
            <div>Is it USB connected? Maybe (assuming you haven=E2=80=99t
              already done so) try a different cable? Grasping at
              straws=E2=80=A6<br>
              <br>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Tom Coradeschi
                <div><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">=
[email-masked]</a></div>
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 23, 2023, at 10:22 PM,
                  john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freete=
xt">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">VueScan for my first
                      choice... same as all the others</font></div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
                  <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">j</font></div>
                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
                  <blockquote style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP:
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                    solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; PADDING-RIGHT:
                    0px">
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>----- Original Message
                        -----</b></div>
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>From:</b> Ronnie Day &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-=
do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;</div>
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>To:</b> Mike Sinclair &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" m=
oz-do-not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt;</div>
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>Cc:</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-se=
nd=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
</div>
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>Sent:</b> 4/23/2023
                      7:09:35 PM</div>
                    <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Segoe
                      UI'; COLOR: #000000"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                      [Shop-talk] scanner help</div>
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                    <div dir=3D"ltr">Plus 1 for VueScan. Ed is an
                      incredible guy and the software simply works! You
                      can D/L it and see if/how it works. You'll get
                      watermarks until you pay for it but you'll know it
                      works before you do. It was recommended&nbsp;by a
                      friend on the editing&nbsp;list I've been on since the=

                      mid '90s.&nbsp;I used it for maybe 15 minutes and
                      bought the lifetime licence.&nbsp;At some point&nbsp;E=
d made
                      it cross-platform and my lifetime licence was
                      grandfathered so I can scan using my Brother MFC
                      from any of my Macs or PCs. Inarguably&nbsp;the best
                      $100 I ever spent on software!
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>RD</div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                      <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Apr 23,
                        2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM Mike Sinclair &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-=
not-send=3D"true" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;
                        wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT=
: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT:
                        rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px
                        0.8ex">
                        <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
                          <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Tahoma">Make
                                sure your wireless is not set to
                                public.&nbsp; Don't ask me how I know.</font=
></font></p>
                          <p><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Tahoma">Mike</fo=
nt></font><br>
                          </p>
                          <div>On 4/23/23 1:32 PM, john wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">trying to copy
                                some documentation on my tools and my
                                scanner refuses to cooperate.&nbsp; It used
                                to work.&nbsp; It's a HP m1217 nfw
                                multifunction printer.&nbsp; I've reloaded
                                all the proper up to date drivers</font></di=
v>
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">run diagnostics
                                on hardware and all is fine.. reset to
                                factory settings... tried several
                                different scanner software packages
                                including HPs version and everyone says
                                it "Can Not&nbsp;Communicate with the
                                scanner."</font></div>
                            <div>&nbsp;</div>
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Tried an online
                                tech support outfit that said it was a
                                virus preventing it from working and for
                                250 bucks they would fix it... well,
                                thanks but no thanks.&nbsp; Ran several
                                malware and virus programs and found one</fo=
nt></div>
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">PUP file and
                                removed it .&nbsp; After that redid all abov=
e
                                and same result... Hope someone can tech
                                me up on this and get this piece of
                                printer working again...and all other
                                printer functions work fine</font></div>
                            <div>&nbsp;</div>
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>=

                            <div>&nbsp;</div>
                            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
                            <br>
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                        </div>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 18:29:21 -0500

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Moose, I am also a Brother all in one user, couldn=E2=80=99t be happier. It=E2=
=80=99s an old 6-ink photo unit but hasn=E2=80=99t given me much trouble.=20=

As for the HP color laser, a friend was required to buy particular HP printe=
r years ago because of the software he was using. Toner was expensive but si=
nce he didn=E2=80=99t use color much he figured that replacing the $150 blac=
k cartridge wasn=E2=80=99t a deal killer. A few months later it just stopped=
 with no warning that the toner was out. He bought a black cartridge, then n=
oticed that the color cartridges were also needing replacement even though h=
e hadn=E2=80=99t printed any color documents. Turns out his printer used all=
 the toners when printing black & white & that couldn=E2=80=99t be turned of=
f. My point is you might want to watch color toner consumption.=20

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:12 PM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFOk, my 2 cents.=20

First, it sounds like driver software is corrupted (either from virus or jus=
t bad luck.)=20

I guess it is most likely in the TWAIN driver.=20

I'm a die hard Brother fan, BTW and recently bought a HP Color LaserJet Pro M=
283fdw Wireless All-in-One Laser Printer that I couldn't be happier with.=20=

What I'm about to say goes against EVERYTHING I believe, In fact, I have to s=
tart it by saying I HATE!!!!!!! Smart phones and the apps on them.  I believ=
e the ONLY apps that should exist are the ones before an entree. 8>)=20

With that said, there are "photo to PDF" apps that you use your phone to jus=
t take a picture of the page and it converts it to a PDF (or other format.) =
 They are often free and really are faster than a scanner.=20

Maybe try that and give up on the scanner for now.=20

Again, I HATE that I suggested that, but I think it will work for you.=20

Moose (I have to go wash my mouth out with bourbon now!)
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Moose, I am also a Brother all in one user,=
 couldn=E2=80=99t be happier. It=E2=80=99s an old 6-ink photo unit but hasn=E2=
=80=99t given me much trouble.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>As for the HP color l=
aser, a friend was required to buy particular HP printer years ago because o=
f the software he was using. Toner was expensive but since he didn=E2=80=99t=
 use color much he figured that replacing the $150 black cartridge wasn=E2=80=
=99t a deal killer. A few months later it just stopped with no warning that t=
he toner was out. He bought a black cartridge, then noticed that the color c=
artridges were also needing replacement even though he hadn=E2=80=99t printe=
d any color documents. Turns out his printer used all the toners when printi=
ng black &amp; white &amp; that couldn=E2=80=99t be turned off. My point is y=
ou might want to watch color toner consumption.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:12 PM, [email-masked] wrot=
e:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D" font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif">Ok, my 2 cents.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">First, it sounds
like driver software is corrupted (either from virus or just bad luck.)</spa=
n>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I guess it is
most likely in the TWAIN driver.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">I'm a die hard
Brother fan, BTW and recently bought a HP Color LaserJet Pro M283fdw Wireles=
s
All-in-One Laser Printer that I couldn't be happier with.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">What I'm about
to say goes against EVERYTHING I believe, In fact, I have to start it by
saying I HATE!!!!!!! Smart phones and the apps on them. &nbsp;I believe
the ONLY apps that should exist are the ones before an entree. 8&gt;)</span>=

<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">With that said,
there are "photo to PDF" apps that you use your phone to just
take a picture of the page and it converts it to a PDF (or other format.)
&nbsp;They are often free and really are faster than a scanner.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Maybe try that
and give up on the scanner for now.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Again, I HATE
that I suggested that, but I think it will work for you.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=3D" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moose (I have
to go wash my mouth out with bourbon now!)</span>
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