Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 15:18:58 -0600

Jim, I’m looking into something similar as an anti-theft device for my 1967 Datsun. I found a project on line that consists of your cell phone & an Arduino device. It acts like the keyless entry systems that modern vehicles have. You just walk up, or in your case, drive up & the gate opens. No button press required. When your phone is out of range the gate closes (if you program the Arduino to behave like that). 

I’ll be interrupting the ignition & starter power on the car. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Feb 12, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:

Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate openers?  It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be installing a dual gate opener for the driveway to my shop.

Thanks,
Jim
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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:34:48 -0500

Interesting idea, Pat.  Do you already have an automatic gate?

> On Feb 12, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:38:23 -0600

No, I have to open my gate manually but may consider adding this control later. 

I hope to start designing the Arduino circuitry soon. 

Pat Horne 

On Feb 12, 2023, at 7:35 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:

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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
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Hi Jim,

I installed a larger swing gate across my driveway about 20 years ago, and
it still is working well. I have had to replace the gate opener twice, and
actually had one gate opener stolen off from the gate (arm and control
box). That was quite a shocker.

I live in a very safe neighborhood but believe that some workmen at a
neighboring house stole it.

As a result, I would strongly suggest that you get a lock for the pin where
the opener arm attaches to the gate.

Here in my city you also need to have a fire department key switch facing
the street so that they can open the gate in case of a fire on your
property.

I used Linear Pro for the opener. It says it is for professional
installation only, but I did it no problem. All of the parts are available
separately (e.g., circuit boards, arm, mechanical parts, etc.), and they
usually ship the next day.
https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx

Things will break or wear out on it eventually if you use it multiple times
a day for years, and replacement part availability and pricing is important=
.

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, just ask,

best,

doug

On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 5:50 PM Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:

> > Jim, I=E2=80=99m looking into something similar as an anti-theft device=
 for my
> 1967 Datsun. I found a project on line that consists of your cell phone &
> an Arduino device. It acts like the keyless entry systems that modern
> vehicles have. You just walk up, or in your case, drive up & the gate
> opens. No button press required. When your phone is out of range the gate
> closes (if you program the Arduino to behave like that).
> >
> > I=E2=80=99ll be interrupting the ignition & starter power on the car.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Pat
> >
> > Pat Horne
> > =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway =
gate
> openers?  It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand
> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be installing a dua=
l
> gate opener for the driveway to my shop.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:small">Hi Jim,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I i=
nstalled a larger swing gate across my driveway about 20 years ago, and it =
still is working well. I have had to replace the gate opener twice, and act=
ually had one gate opener stolen off from the gate (arm and control box). T=
hat was quite=C2=A0a shocker.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sm=
all">I live in a very safe=C2=A0neighborhood but believe=C2=A0that some wor=
kmen at a neighboring house stole it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small">As a result, I would strongly suggest=C2=A0that you get a lock=
 for the pin where the opener arm attaches to the gate.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-size:small">Here in my city you also need to have a fire=
 department key switch facing the street so that they can open the gate in =
case of a fire on your property.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small">I used Linear Pro for the opener. It says it is for professional in=
stallation only, but I did it no problem. All of the parts are available se=
parately (e.g., circuit boards, arm, mechanical parts, etc.), and they usua=
lly=C2=A0ship the next day.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><a href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.asp=
x">https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx</a><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Things will break or wear out on it =
eventually if you use it multiple times a day for years, and replacement pa=
rt availability and pricing is important.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:small">Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, just=C2=
=A0ask,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 5:50 PM Jim =
Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Inter=
esting idea, Pat.=C2=A0 Do you already have an automatic gate?<br>
<br>
&gt; On Feb 12, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexa=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jim, I=E2=80=99m looking into something similar as an anti-theft devic=
e for my 1967 Datsun. I found a project on line that consists of your cell =
phone &amp; an Arduino device. It acts like the keyless entry systems that =
modern vehicles have. You just walk up, or in your case, drive up &amp; the=
 gate opens. No button press required. When your phone is out of range the =
gate closes (if you program the Arduino to behave like that). <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I=E2=80=99ll be interrupting the ignition &amp; starter power on the c=
ar. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Peace,<br>
&gt; Pat<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Pat Horne <br>
&gt; We support Habitat for Humanity<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Feb 12, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpin=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway=
 gate openers?=C2=A0 It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/o=
r brand recommendations would be greatly appreciated.=C2=A0 I will be insta=
lling a dual gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Jim<br>
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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:45:14 -0500

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Thanks, Doug.  That is exactly the kind of recommendation I am looking =
for.

> On Feb 12, 2023, at 9:22 PM, old dirtbeard <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Jim,
>=20
> I installed a larger swing gate across my driveway about 20 years ago, =
and it still is working well. I have had to replace the gate opener =
twice, and actually had one gate opener stolen off from the gate (arm =
and control box). That was quite a shocker.
>=20
> I live in a very safe neighborhood but believe that some workmen at a =
>=20
> As a result, I would strongly suggest that you get a lock for the pin =
where the opener arm attaches to the gate.
>=20
> Here in my city you also need to have a fire department key switch =
facing the street so that they can open the gate in case of a fire on =
your property.
>=20
> I used Linear Pro for the opener. It says it is for professional =
installation only, but I did it no problem. All of the parts are =
available separately (e.g., circuit boards, arm, mechanical parts, =
etc.), and they usually ship the next day.
>=20
> Things will break or wear out on it eventually if you use it multiple =
times a day for years, and replacement part availability and pricing is =
important.
>=20
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> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 5:50 PM Jim Stone <[email-masked] =
>>=20
>> > On Feb 12, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Pat Horne <[email-masked] =
>> >=20
>> > Jim, I=E2=80=99m looking into something similar as an anti-theft =
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systems that modern vehicles have. You just walk up, or in your case, =
drive up & the gate opens. No button press required. When your phone is =
out of range the gate closes (if you program the Arduino to behave like =
that).=20
>> >=20
>> > I=E2=80=99ll be interrupting the ignition & starter power on the =
car.=20
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>> >=20
>> > Pat Horne=20
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>> >=20
>> > On Feb 12, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked] =
>> >=20
>> > =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have any experience installing automatic =
driveway gate openers?  It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice =
and/or brand recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be =
installing a dual gate opener for the driveway to my shop.
>> >=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks, Doug. =
&nbsp;That is exactly the kind of recommendation I am looking =
for.<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 12, 2023, at 9:22 =
PM, old dirtbeard &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Jim,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I installed a larger swing gate across my =
driveway about 20 years ago, and it still is working well. I have had to =
replace the gate opener twice, and actually had one gate opener stolen =
off from the gate (arm and control box). That was quite&nbsp;a =
shocker.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I live in a very safe&nbsp;neighborhood but =
believe&nbsp;that some workmen at a neighboring house stole =
it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">As a result, I would strongly =
suggest&nbsp;that you get a lock for the pin where the opener arm =
attaches to the gate.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">Here in my city you also need to have a fire =
department key switch facing the street so that they can open the gate =
in case of a fire on your property.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I used Linear Pro for the opener. It says it =
is for professional installation only, but I did it no problem. All of =
the parts are available separately (e.g., circuit boards, arm, =
mechanical parts, etc.), and they usually&nbsp;ship the next =
day.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a =
href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx">https://www.=
gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx</a><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Things will break or =
wear out on it eventually if you use it multiple times a day for years, =
and replacement part availability and pricing is important.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hope this helps. If =
you have any other questions, just&nbsp;ask,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div =
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12, 2023 at 5:50 PM Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Interesting idea, Pat.&nbsp; Do you =
already have an automatic gate?<br>
<br>
&gt; On Feb 12, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jim, I=E2=80=99m looking into something similar as an anti-theft =
device for my 1967 Datsun. I found a project on line that consists of =
your cell phone &amp; an Arduino device. It acts like the keyless entry =
systems that modern vehicles have. You just walk up, or in your case, =
drive up &amp; the gate opens. No button press required. When your phone =
is out of range the gate closes (if you program the Arduino to behave =
like that). <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I=E2=80=99ll be interrupting the ignition &amp; starter power on =
the car. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Peace,<br>
&gt; Pat<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Pat Horne <br>
&gt; We support Habitat for Humanity<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Feb 12, 2023, at 3:11 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFDoes anyone have any experience installing automatic =
driveway gate openers?&nbsp; It looks pretty straight-forward, but any =
advice and/or brand recommendations would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; =
I will be installing a dual gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Jim<br>
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 12:43:13 -0800

Hi Jim:

Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration go?

My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street means you
have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with added risk
of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to ensure it
closed.

A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly broke the
belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as there was
never an snow...

Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they would get
hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...

If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you might want
to consider solar power and/or backup.  Do you need or want to integrate a
keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?

I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come immediately
to mind.

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All the best,

Al Fuller

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Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates

Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate openers?
It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand
recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be installing a dual
gate opener for the driveway to my shop.

Thanks,
Jim

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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:06:11 -0500

The driveway opening is just over 13’, so two 6 1/2’ gates.  The gates are about 40’ from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc conduit from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put the controls in the garage.  I’ll probably use a battery backup, but our power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into the main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing power wouldn’t be too big a deal.  The back is pretty shaded and running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn’t be any easier than just running it to the garage, so I’ll probably skip that.  Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate isn’t too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!

As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this all done.  We’re just starting an addition to our house and contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway (our house is a thru lot).  After that, it is pretty much just my wife and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests won’t often need access to the back.

My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.  It is hard to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around $700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range.  Common, readily available brands I’ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, Topens.  Doug on this list recommended a GTO until that looks really nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be overkill for my needs.  That said, having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that remains in the consideration set.

I’m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly appreciated.

Jim

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim:
> 

[email-masked]

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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
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Hi Jim,

My gate opening also is just over 13' and I am using a single swing gate
with one of the GTO SW4000 XLS gate openers.

This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and 1,000 lbs. It should be about
$1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:
https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInb=
XKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE

These all run on battery with a charger that could be from 110VAC. I ran
110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I wanted AC receptacles there
anyway) and then plugged the charger in there, but you also could run the
low voltage cable in the ground from the charger in the garage out to the
gate.

A solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the battery charged if you
do not want to run cable or you do not want AC out at the gate. There
really is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..

I also am just using the remote to open and close the gate from the cars,
garage, house, etc. There is no reason to run control wires.

I can send photos if you would like.

best,

doug

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The driveway opening is just over 13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gate=
s.  The gates are
> about 40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc =
conduit
> from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put the controls in the
> garage.  I=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, but our power is pre=
tty
> reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into the main panel (manual
> transfer switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be too big a deal.  The=
 back is
> pretty shaded and running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=
=80=99t be
> any easier than just running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably s=
kip that.
> Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate isn=E2=80=99t =
too
> extreme, especially compared to Michigan!
>
> As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this
> all done.  We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and contr=
actors and
> construction vehicles need access to the back driveway (our house is a th=
ru
> lot).  After that, it is pretty much just my wife and me and the main
> entrance to the house is in the front, so guests won=E2=80=99t often need=
 access to
> the back.
>
> My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.  It is hard to
> make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus back up
> batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around $700 to
> $2000, which is a pretty wide range.  Common, readily available brands I=
=E2=80=99ve
> seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, Topens.  Doug on this list
> recommended a GTO until that looks really nice, but is about $1700 for du=
al
> gates and might be overkill for my needs.  That said, having a trusted
> satisfied customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that remains in the
> consideration set.
>
> I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Jim
>
> > of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to ensur=
e
> it
> > closed.
> >
> > A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly brok=
e
> the
> > Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they would ge=
t
> > to consider solar power and/or backup.  Do you need or want to integrat=
e
> a

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Best,

Doug

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi =
Jim,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My gate opening also=
 is just over 13&#39; and I am using a single swing gate with one of the GT=
O SW4000 XLS gate openers.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small">This opener is rated for up to 20&#39; gates and 1,000 lbs. It shou=
ld be about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://www.gatecr=
afters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1c=
AAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE">https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.as=
px?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE</a></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">These all run on battery with=
 a charger that could be from 110VAC. I ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to th=
e gate (I wanted AC receptacles there anyway) and then plugged the charger =
in there, but you also could run the low voltage cable in the ground from t=
he charger in the garage out to the gate.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:small">A solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the batte=
ry charged if you do not want to run cable or you do not want=C2=A0AC out a=
t the gate. There really is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I also am just using the=
 remote to open and close the gate from the cars, garage, house, etc. There=
 is no reason to run control wires.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
ize:small">I can send photos if you would like.</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sma=
ll">doug</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1789alp=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The driveway opening is just over 13=E2=
=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gates.=C2=A0 The gates are about 40=E2=80=99 =
from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc conduit from the gat=
e to the garage to run the wire and put the controls in the garage.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, but our power is pretty reliable=
 and I have a back-up generator wired into the main panel (manual transfer =
switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be too big a deal.=C2=A0 The back =
is pretty shaded and running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=
=80=99t be any easier than just running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll p=
robably skip that.=C2=A0 Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our=
 climate isn=E2=80=99t too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!<br>
<br>
As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this al=
l done.=C2=A0 We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and cont=
ractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway (our hou=
se is a thru lot).=C2=A0 After that, it is pretty much just my wife and me =
and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests won=E2=80=99t=
 often need access to the back.<br>
<br>
My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.=C2=A0 It is hard t=
o make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus back up=
 batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around $700 to $2=
000, which is a pretty wide range.=C2=A0 Common, readily available brands I=
=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, Topens.=C2=A0 Do=
ug on this list recommended a GTO until that looks really nice, but is abou=
t $1700 for dual gates and might be overkill for my needs.=C2=A0 That said,=
 having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that=
 remains in the consideration set.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly ap=
preciated.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
&gt; On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi Jim:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration go?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street means=
 you<br>
&gt; have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with adde=
d risk<br>
&gt; of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to ensu=
re it<br>
&gt; closed.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly bro=
ke the<br>
&gt; belts that held up the gate. We really didn&#39;t need a lit gate, as =
there was<br>
&gt; never an snow...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they would g=
et<br>
&gt; hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you migh=
t want<br>
&gt; to consider solar power and/or backup.=C2=A0 Do you need or want to in=
tegrate a<br>
&gt; keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;m sure there are more considerations, but those are what come im=
mediately<br>
&gt; to mind.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; ----------------<br>
&gt; All the best,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Al Fuller<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of J=
im Stone<br>
&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM<br>
&gt; To: Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate ope=
ners?<br>
&gt; It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand<br>
&gt; recommendations would be greatly appreciated.=C2=A0 I will be installi=
ng a dual<br>
&gt; gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Jim<br>
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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:18:57 -0500

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Thanks for all of the advice, guys.  The area between the garage and the =
gate is not all that great and I think a single swinging gate would be =
more trouble than it is worth. That said, I am starting to think that a =
sliding gate might be the way to go and I have plenty of room on one =
side for the gate to slide.  But, I know nothing about siding gates and =
have some research to do.  And, fabricating one 16=E2=80=99 or so frame =
(I gather you need plenty of overlap on each end) seems a lot more work =
than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones.  Lots to figure out, but fortunately I have =
time.   I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update the list when I am done.

Jim

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Jim,
>=20
> My gate opening also is just over 13' and I am using a single swing =
gate with one of the GTO SW4000 XLS gate openers.=20
>=20
> This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and 1,000 lbs. It should be =
about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing gate:
> =
https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMIn=
bXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE
>=20
> These all run on battery with a charger that could be from 110VAC. I =
ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I wanted AC receptacles there =
anyway) and then plugged the charger in there, but you also could run =
the low voltage cable in the ground from the charger in the garage out =
to the gate.
>=20
> A solar charger also would be sufficient to keep the battery charged =
if you do not want to run cable or you do not want AC out at the gate. =
There really is no need for AC at the gate unless you want it..
>=20
> I also am just using the remote to open and close the gate from the =
cars, garage, house, etc. There is no reason to run control wires.
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone <[email-masked] =
>> The driveway opening is just over 13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 =
gates.  The gates are about 40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on =
burying a section of pvc conduit from the gate to the garage to run the =
wire and put the controls in the garage.  I=E2=80=99ll probably use a =
battery backup, but our power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up =
generator wired into the main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing =
power wouldn=E2=80=99t be too big a deal.  The back is pretty shaded and =
running wire to a sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any =
easier than just running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip =
that.  Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate =
isn=E2=80=99t too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!
>>=20
>> As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get =
this all done.  We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and =
contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway =
(our house is a thru lot).  After that, it is pretty much just my wife =
and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so guests =
won=E2=80=99t often need access to the back.
>>=20
>> My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.  It is hard =
to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system (minus =
back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from around =
$700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range.  Common, readily available =
brands I=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, Ghost Controls, =
Topens.  Doug on this list recommended a GTO until that looks really =
nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be overkill for my =
needs.  That said, having a trusted satisfied customer recommendation is =
worth a lot, so that remains in the consideration set.
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be =
greatly appreciated.
>>=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>> > On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, <[email-masked] =
>> >=20
>> > Hi Jim:
>> >=20
>> > My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street =
means you
>> > have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with =
added risk
>> > of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to =
ensure it
>> > closed.
>> >=20
>> > A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly =
broke the
>> > belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as =
there was
>> > never an snow...
>> >=20
>> > Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they =
would get
>> > If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you =
might want
>> > to consider solar power and/or backup.  Do you need or want to =
integrate a
>> > I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come =
immediately
>> > From: Shop-talk <[email-masked] =
>> > To: Shop Talk <[email-masked] =
>> > Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate =
openers?
>> > recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  I will be installing =
a dual
>> > =
> Doug

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks for all =
of the advice, guys. &nbsp;The area between the garage and the gate is =
not all that great and I think a single swinging gate would be more =
trouble than it is worth. That said, I am starting to think that a =
sliding gate might be the way to go and I have plenty of room on one =
side for the gate to slide. &nbsp;But, I know nothing about siding gates =
and have some research to do. &nbsp;And, fabricating one 16=E2=80=99 or =
so frame (I gather you need plenty of overlap on each end) seems a lot =
more work than two 6.5=E2=80=99 ones. &nbsp;Lots to figure out, but =
fortunately I have time. &nbsp; I=E2=80=99ll try to remember to update =
the list when I am =
done.<div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:06 PM, old dirtbeard =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hi Jim,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">My gate opening also =
is just over 13' and I am using a single swing gate with one of the GTO =
SW4000 XLS gate openers.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">This opener is rated for up to 20' gates and =
1,000 lbs. It should be about $1,100 if you have room for a single swing =
gate:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a =
href=3D"https://www.gatecrafters.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaI=
QobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE">https://www.gatecrafte=
rs.com/product_detail_875.aspx?gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMInbXKjIGU_QIVQRh9Ch1cAAq=
7EAQYASABEgIeJvD_BwE</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">These all run on battery with a charger that =
could be from 110VAC. I ran 110 VAC in buried conduit to the gate (I =
wanted AC receptacles there anyway) and then plugged the charger in =
there, but you also could run the low voltage cable in the ground from =
the charger in the garage out to the gate.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">A solar charger also =
would be sufficient to keep the battery charged if you do not want to =
run cable or you do not want&nbsp;AC out at the gate. There really is no =
need for AC at the gate unless you want it..</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I also am just using =
the remote to open and close the gate from the cars, garage, house, etc. =
There is no reason to run control wires.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">I can send photos if you would like.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb =
13, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The driveway opening is just over =
13=E2=80=99, so two 6 1/2=E2=80=99 gates.&nbsp; The gates are about =
40=E2=80=99 from the garage and I plan on burying a section of pvc =
conduit from the gate to the garage to run the wire and put the controls =
in the garage.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ll probably use a battery backup, but our =
power is pretty reliable and I have a back-up generator wired into the =
main panel (manual transfer switch) so losing power wouldn=E2=80=99t be =
too big a deal.&nbsp; The back is pretty shaded and running wire to a =
sunny area for solar panel wouldn=E2=80=99t be any easier than just =
running it to the garage, so I=E2=80=99ll probably skip that.&nbsp; =
Weather-wise we are on Eastern Long Island and our climate isn=E2=80=99t =
too extreme, especially compared to Michigan!<br>
<br>
As for a keypad, whether or not I add one will depend on when I get this =
all done.&nbsp; We=E2=80=99re just starting an addition to our house and =
contractors and construction vehicles need access to the back driveway =
(our house is a thru lot).&nbsp; After that, it is pretty much just my =
wife and me and the main entrance to the house is in the front, so =
guests won=E2=80=99t often need access to the back.<br>
<br>
My main interest at this point is brand recommendations.&nbsp; It is =
hard to make exact comparisons, but it looks like the basic system =
(minus back up batteries, solar panels, etc.) will run me anywhere from =
around $700 to $2000, which is a pretty wide range.&nbsp; Common, =
readily available brands I=E2=80=99ve seen appear to be Mighty Mule, =
Ghost Controls, Topens.&nbsp; Doug on this list recommended a GTO until =
that looks really nice, but is about $1700 for dual gates and might be =
overkill for my needs.&nbsp; That said, having a trusted satisfied =
customer recommendation is worth a lot, so that remains in the =
consideration set.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m still in the researching phase, so any input will be greatly =
appreciated.<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
&gt; On Feb 13, 2023, at 3:43 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi Jim:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Do you have any particular needs as far as gate configuration =
go?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My step-mother has a swing gate, but the clearance to the street =
means you<br>
&gt; have to [1] when entering wait on the street for it to open, with =
added risk<br>
&gt; of oncoming traffic, and [2] when leaving - wait on the street to =
ensure it<br>
&gt; closed.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; A condo complex in California had a lift-up gate, which constantly =
broke the<br>
&gt; belts that held up the gate. We really didn't need a lit gate, as =
there was<br>
&gt; never an snow...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Places in Michigan had gates that swung or retracted, but they =
would get<br>
&gt; hung up in the snow or ice in the winter...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If you are in a place where the electric power is unreliable, you =
might want<br>
&gt; to consider solar power and/or backup.&nbsp; Do you need or want to =
integrate a<br>
&gt; keypad into the controls? Same for an intercom?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'm sure there are more considerations, but those are what come =
immediately<br>
&gt; to mind.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; ----------------<br>
&gt; All the best,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Al Fuller<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Shop-talk &lt;<a =
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Jim Stone<br>
&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:30 AM<br>
&gt; To: Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Shop-talk] Automatic driveway gates<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does anyone have any experience installing automatic driveway gate =
openers?<br>
&gt; It looks pretty straight-forward, but any advice and/or brand<br>
&gt; recommendations would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp; I will be =
installing a dual<br>
&gt; gate opener for the driveway to my shop.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Jim<br>
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