Subject: [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow jeep tj

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I know this isn't a British car, but at least it's shop related.  8>)

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ.  Wipers work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent 
feature seems a little weird.

It works as it is supposed to, however there is a gap with the speed. 
There are about 5 clicks in the intermittent adjustment.

1 is really slow
2 is slightly faster, but not much.
3 is basically constant wiping
4 & 5 are just faster constant modes

Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too fast.  I need something in between.

Seems that most searching on this for make/model is them not working at 
all and not the problem I'm having. 

Anyone have an ideas what to check?

TIA

Moose
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">I know this isn't a British car, but at
least it's shop related. &nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have a 2003 Jeep TJ. &nbsp;Wipers
work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent feature seems a little weird.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It works as it is supposed to, however
there is a gap with the speed. &nbsp;There are about 5 clicks in the intermittent
adjustment.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">1 is really slow</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2 is slightly faster, but not much.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3 is basically constant wiping</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">4 &amp; 5 are just faster constant modes</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too
fast. &nbsp;I need something in between.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Seems that most searching on this for
make/model is them not working at all and not the problem I'm having. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Anyone have an ideas what to check?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
TIA</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
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From: PJ McGarvey <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 13:56:39 +0000

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I have a 2003 TJ as well. I can say that the whole turn signal/wiper/headli=
ght assembly on the steering column is a problem with these cars I believe.=
 The previous owner replaced it once, and I have as well. Something to cons=
ider.

PJ
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of eric@megage=
ek.com <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:35 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow jeep tj

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ.  Wipers work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent featu=
re seems a little weird.

It works as it is supposed to, however there is a gap with the speed.  Ther=
e are about 5 clicks in the intermittent adjustment.

1 is really slow

Seems that most searching on this for make/model is them not working at all=
 and not the problem I'm having.

TIA

Moose

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I have a 2003 TJ as well. I can say that the whole turn signal/wiper/headli=
ght assembly on the steering column is a problem with these cars I believe.=
 The previous owner replaced it once, and I have as well. Something to cons=
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-ta=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of [email-masked] &lt;eric@megag=
eek.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow =
jeep tj</font>
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</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn't a British car, =
but at least it's shop related. &nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 2003 Jeep TJ. &nbsp;Wipers wo=
rk 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent feature seems a little weird.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It works as it is supposed to, however=
 there is a gap with the speed. &nbsp;There are about 5 clicks in the inter=
mittent adjustment.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">1 is really slow</font> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">2 is slightly faster, but not much.</f=
ont> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">3 is basically constant wiping</font> =
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">4 &amp; 5 are just faster constant mod=
es</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too=
 fast. &nbsp;I need something in between.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Seems that most searching on this for =
make/model is them not working at all and not the problem I'm having. &nbsp=
;</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Anyone have an ideas what to check?</f=
ont> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
TIA</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font></div>
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:55:59 -0600

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P J, does your wiper switch behave the same as Moose=E2=80=99s? If it does, h=
is isn=E2=80=99t misbehaving.=20

As an electronics guy if I had access to the vehicle I=E2=80=99d do some tes=
ting & try some modifications to make it work more as desired. I=E2=80=99ll s=
ee if I can find a wiring diagram for that & see if anything can be done.=20=

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Jan 31, 2023, at 8:13 AM, PJ McGarvey <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I have a 2003 TJ as well. I can say that the whole turn signal/wiper/headlig=
ht assembly on the steering column is a problem with these cars I believe. T=
he previous owner replaced it once, and I have as well. Something to conside=
r.

PJ
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of eric@megagee=
k.com <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:35 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow jeep tj
=20
I know this isn't a British car, but at least it's shop related.  8>)=20

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ.  Wipers work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent featur=
e seems a little weird.=20

It works as it is supposed to, however there is a gap with the speed.  There=
 are about 5 clicks in the intermittent adjustment.=20

1 is really slow=20
2 is slightly faster, but not much.=20
3 is basically constant wiping=20
4 & 5 are just faster constant modes=20

Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too fast.  I need something in between.=20=

Seems that most searching on this for make/model is them not working at all a=
nd not the problem I'm having.  =20

Anyone have an ideas what to check?=20

TIA=20

Moose

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">P J, does your wiper switch behave the same=
 as Moose=E2=80=99s? If it does, his isn=E2=80=99t misbehaving.&nbsp;<div><b=
r></div><div>As an electronics guy if I had access to the vehicle I=E2=80=99=
d do some testing &amp; try some modifications to make it work more as desir=
ed. I=E2=80=99ll see if I can find a wiring diagram for that &amp; see if an=
ything can be done.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div=
><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 31, 2023, at 8:13 AM, PJ M=
cGarvey &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">=

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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementT=
oProof">
I have a 2003 TJ as well. I can say that the whole turn signal/wiper/headlig=
ht assembly on the steering column is a problem with these cars I believe. T=
he previous owner replaced it once, and I have as well. Something to conside=
r.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementT=
oProof">
<br>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"elementT=
oProof">
PJ</div>
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le=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-talk=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of [email-masked] &lt;eric@megageek=
.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow j=
eep tj</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn't a British car, b=
ut at least it's shop related. &nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 2003 Jeep TJ. &nbsp;Wipers wor=
k 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent feature seems a little weird.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It works as it is supposed to, however t=
here is a gap with the speed. &nbsp;There are about 5 clicks in the intermit=
tent adjustment.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">1 is really slow</font> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">2 is slightly faster, but not much.</fo=
nt> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">3 is basically constant wiping</font> <=
br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">4 &amp; 5 are just faster constant mode=
s</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too f=
ast. &nbsp;I need something in between.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Seems that most searching on this for m=
ake/model is them not working at all and not the problem I'm having. &nbsp;<=
/font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Anyone have an ideas what to check?</fo=
nt> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
TIA</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font></div>

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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
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=EF=BB=BFEric,
All the wiring diagrams I see don=E2=80=99t list a year or don=E2=80=99t see=
m to match what you have, they seem to show a variable control for infinite d=
elay settings. If you can point me to a diagram that matches your car I=E2=80=
=99d be happy to give you a reading as to whether anything can be done & how=
 to troubleshoot it.=20

If P J will let us know if his behaves the same it will be a great help.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20

On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:52 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI know this isn't a British car, but at least it's shop related.  8=
>)=20

1 is really slow=20

TIA=20

Moose_______________________________________________

[email-masked]

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Eric,<div>All the wiri=
ng diagrams I see don=E2=80=99t list a year or don=E2=80=99t seem to match w=
hat you have, they seem to show a variable control for infinite delay settin=
gs. If you can point me to a diagram that matches your car I=E2=80=99d be ha=
ppy to give you a reading as to whether anything can be done &amp; how to tr=
oubleshoot it.&nbsp;<br><br>If P J will let us know if his behaves the same i=
t will be a great help.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<=
/div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Hu=
manity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:=
52 AM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font=
 size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn't a British car, but at
least it's shop related. &nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 2003 Jeep TJ. &nbsp;Wipers=

work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent feature seems a little weird.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It works as it is supposed to, howe=
ver
there is a gap with the speed. &nbsp;There are about 5 clicks in the intermi=
ttent
adjustment.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">1 is really slow</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">2 is slightly faster, but not much.=
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">3 is basically constant wiping</fon=
t>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">4 &amp; 5 are just faster constant m=
odes</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is t=
oo
fast. &nbsp;I need something in between.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Seems that most searching on this f=
or
make/model is them not working at all and not the problem I'm having. &nbsp;=
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Anyone have an ideas what to check?=
</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
TIA</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font><span>_________________=
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Thanks.=20

I found that drawing. =46rom the looks of it your problem is not the switch,=
 but the control module but that is not a guarantee. Moose, did your wiper s=
peeds ever work differently than they do now? If they did, then the module c=
ould be bad.=20

The schematic shows a variable resistor in the upper left. Do you have a var=
iable wiper control?

Should we take this off line or are others interested?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20

On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:57 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI believe this is it (a little down in the post list.)=20

https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/front-wiper-issue.2969/=20

If that isn't it, it should be pretty close.=20

Thanks!=20

Moose=20

From:        Pat Horne <[email-masked]>=20
To:        [email-masked]=20
Cc:        [email-masked]=20
Date:        01/31/2023 10:16 AM=20
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] wiper intermittent either too fast or too sl=
ow jeep tj=20

Eric,=20

Peace,=20
Pat=20

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity=20

1 is really slow=20

TIA=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks.&nbsp;<div><br></di=
v><div>I found that drawing. =46rom the looks of it your problem is not the s=
witch, but the control module but that is not a guarantee. Moose, did your w=
iper speeds ever work differently than they do now? If they did, then the mo=
dule could be bad.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The schematic shows a vari=
able resistor in the upper left. Do you have a variable wiper control?</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Should we take this off line or are others interested?</=
div><div><br></div><div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div=
><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:57 AM, eric@mega=
geek.com wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"sans-serif">I believe this is it (a little down in
the post list.)</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/front-wiper-issue.2969/">=
<font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://wranglertjforum.=
com/threads/front-wiper-issue.2969/</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">If that isn't it, it should be pret=
ty
close.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Pat Horne &lt;patintexas@i=
cloud.com&gt;</font>
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wiper intermittent either too fast or too slow jeep tj</font>
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<br><font size=3D"3">Eric,</font>
<br><font size=3D"3">All the wiring diagrams I see don=E2=80=99t list a year=
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seem to match what you have, they seem to show a variable control for infini=
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delay settings. If you can point me to a diagram that matches your car
I=E2=80=99d be happy to give you a reading as to whether anything can be don=
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&amp; how to troubleshoot it. <br>
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If P J will let us know if his behaves the same it will be a great help.
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<br><font size=3D"3">Peace,</font>
<br><font size=3D"3">Pat</font>
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<br><font size=3D"3">Pat Horne </font>
<br><font size=3D"3">We support Habitat for Humanity</font>
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On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:52 AM, [email-masked] wrote:<br>
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now this isn't
a British car, but at least it's shop related. &nbsp;8&gt;)</font><font size=
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I have a 2003 Jeep TJ. &nbsp;Wipers work 100% EXCEPT that the intermittent
feature seems a little weird.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
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It works as it is supposed to, however there is a gap with the speed. &nbsp;=
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are about 5 clicks in the intermittent adjustment.</font><font size=3D"3">
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1 is really slow</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"san=
s-serif"><br>
2 is slightly faster, but not much.</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
3 is basically constant wiping</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font size=3D"=
2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
4 &amp; 5 are just faster constant modes</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
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Overall 2 is WAY too slow and 3 is too fast. &nbsp;I need something in
between.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
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Seems that most searching on this for make/model is them not working at
all and not the problem I'm having. &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
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Anyone have an ideas what to check?</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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TIA</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
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